My god, if that Minaj piece was not the worst thing ever at the Grammy’s, I have no idea what was worse. I’d never heard of her before (unless the Superficial had bikini pictures of her at some point), and after that performance, I am so glad I am old and uncool. And I had to turn off McCartney. That is not how I want to remember the Beatles.
BTW- Has anyone heard from DougJ? Is it possible the BJ meetup is still going on?
Hill Dweller
A six man guitar wank off to close the show…
Nicole
Meet up wrapped up around 6:30. We all had fun. Perhaps DougJ is off somewhere sobering up and lamenting that The Walking Dead didn’t get any more interesting during its midseason break.
Oh wait, that’s me doing that.
mai naem
Hey, John there’s a JCole whos up for some award…and all this time you were some white middle aged dude. Now I find out you’re a black blackity black rapper dude. No wonder you support Obama. Also. Too.
Comrade Mary
Yeah, Minaj’s set was a hot mess. I blame Obama.
I still like Super Bass.
Omnes Omnibus
@mai naem: The photo was a fake?
wobblybits
West coast here, so no Nicky as of yet. If my twitter feed is any indication, it truly was a wtf moment in music.
wobblybits
oops sorry for the double post.
scottinnj
I dunno about Nicki, I thought she did a fantastic audition for “Exorcist! The Musical”.
Legalize
Nicki Minaj has some cool songs. But I don’t know what the hell that Grammy thing was. Mrs. Legalize digs her a lot, but she was baffled too. I imagine that the Kenyan is going to be asked to condemn her, starting at about 9 am tomorrow. Because of blackity black blackity.
Hill Dweller
@Nicole: I thought AMC was going to be the next HBO after Mad Men and Breaking Bad, but they’ve produced a lot of mediocre stuff since.
Ron
I thought the end with McCartney was pretty good. But after Nicki Minaj, I needed cleansing. That was one of the most godawful things I have ever seen. (And a friend of mine gave a great description of her picture on wikipedia: “Lady Gaga of AC Moore”)
trollhattan
We’re watching the Westminster dog show. Daughter unit wants one of each, so far.
No Grammys for us.
Punchy
I wish I was making this up, but KC metro is sked’d to get 1-3 inches…..yes, inches….of snow tomorrow and all the news has headlines like “Winter Blast!” with reporters at the salt truck lot and schools will be closed all over the area…..yes, for an inch or 2 of snow.
Its like this whole town is comprised of Nancy Men.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@trollhattan: How? I thought it didn’t start until tomorrow.
trollhattan
@The prophet Nostradumbass:
I think it’s a re-do of last year’s. Edition 135? Shhh, don’t tell the fam.
WaynersT
I briefly saw this ad for “CBS’ Colonoscopy Sweepstakes”
I thought it must be a Letterman joke – but it looks like it’s for real.
My god – we are having contests for free healthcare. America sucks.
http://promotions.mardenkane.com/cbs/cbscares12/Index.cfm
Omnes Omnibus
@Comrade Mary: Okay, yeah, that song is okay. Perhaps even better than okay. But some day someone needs to explain to me how rapping is really different than toasting. Yeah, I spent a lot of Friday night listening to first wave ska. Why do you ask?
JGabriel
John Cole:
I think DougJ might have been taking the train back to Rochester after he left McGee’s. Don’t know how long a trip that is, but maybe he decided to relax or hit the hay after getting home.
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Nicole
@Hill Dweller: Walking Dead had a good first season, but this second one is just sloooooow. Really showing the effects of budget cuts.
Hill Dweller
OT: Forgive me if this was posted in another thread, but PPP is saying Frothy Mix will be leading Willard between 10 to 15 points in their new Michigan poll.
John Cole
@trollhattan: That was last year’s Westminster. Tomorrow is day one for this year. I hope you enjoyed it anyway, though.
John Cole
@WaynersT: That was serious?
Comrade Mary
@Omnes Omnibus: Rapping, toasting, talking blues, spoken word: it’s all good. Well, not all. A lot, anyway.
wobblybits
Coldplay and Maroon 5 on one stage…(shuddering)
ETA: Rhianna and Coldplay (still shudddering)
WaynersT
Yep – I’m entering my uninsured sister and her husband
suzanne
Thrilled to see Bon Iver win Best New Artist. Nice acceptance speech, too.
SuzieC
OK, it’s late and I’m drunk but… I loved the 6 man guitar wank off, because they were some of my favorite old wanker rockers. As for Nikki Minaj, I thought she was parodying the Catholic Church. That may have been wishful thinking over the events of the last week. But, the faux-priests, etc., I don’t think so.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@JGabriel: That’s like a 7 hour train ride.
WaynersT
@efgoldman:
it’s 100% real – you should read the contest details.
3 days in NYC for 2 & $500 spending money.
My sister better win. She hasn’t seen a doctor in years.
Laura
@wobblybits: Hey You!!!! *waving hello* You’re back on the W. Coast?! Hope all is well.
wobblybits
@Laura: Hey you! Yeah I am back for a second. How are you?
trollhattan
@John Cole:
Am being informed the great Dane is “sooooo cuuuuuute!” I’m sure it’s quite nice, but cute?
handsmile
@JGabriel: (#19)
It was a real pleasure to see you again at today’s meet-up. Sorry that it wasn’t possible to have a longer conversation before I had to leave. Do you happen to know if sfinny got off to her train OK?
Omnes Omnibus
Wisconsin Public TV is showing Austin City Limits right now. Jimmy Cliff is the performer. I will go to bed at midnight.
Laura
@wobblybits: I’m well thanks and wondering how life has been treating you. Left you a note re: same on facebook. Take good care, W.
suzanne
CAN SOMEONE GET THAT GODDAMN WOMAN-BEATER OFF MY TV ALREADY?!
sfinny
Home OK and getting ready for bed. Great to see you all.
wobblybits
@Laura: I check on there from time to time but try to stay off while writing diss proposal.
ETA: Hope all is well with you and the family. I’ll make sure to sing on FB from time to time to check in with you :)
The Golux
Frankly, I thought the wank-off was worth the wait. Joe Walsh was great, Dave Grohl just fine and even Bruce fit in nicely (taking the Lennon role). We were lucky enough to get a call from our son in San Antonio in the middle of it, so we paused it for half an hour, allowing us to fast-forward past Lady Gag-me-with-a-spoon.
At least someone with actual talent was the big winner.
Mark S.
@Hill Dweller:
Mitt’s in a shit load of trouble.
suzanne
I swear I only typed that once….
wobblybits
@suzanne: FYI, he will perform again at the end of the show
ETA: I like his music and enjoyed the first performance and no, I do not condone what he did.
The Fat Kate Middleton
I just don’t know if I should be posting this … but here is where I was introduced to Nicki Minaj:
http://youtu.be/odhUPMYXpX4
Warning: really cute little girls on Ellen DeG. show.
JGabriel
The prophet Nostradumbass: Then DougJ would still be on the train or just getting in, if he went to the station directly from leaving McGee’s.
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Steeplejack
Now I remember why I hate awards shows. It started off okay, I’m glad that Adele won a bunch of stuff and we caught a glimpse of the Civil Wars, but, man, there was a lot of train wreck in there. Did not like the guitar wank-off at the end–lots of sloppy flailing from some normally tight guitarists. Must cleanse my palate with the all-star rendition of “My Back Pages” at the Dylan anniversary concert at Madison Square Garden.
JGabriel
@handsmile: Yep, sfinny made it home ok.
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Hill Dweller
@Mark S.: I think the party throwing their lot in with the Bishops and doubling down on the contraception nonsense is a bad sign for Willard.
Omnes Omnibus
@suzanne: It is on delay in AZ?
Jimmy Cliff is singing “Sitting in Limbo” on my TV right now. I am finally a happy boy today. It is the soon-to-be-ex-Mme-Omnibus’s b-day and, since we are being polite and decent about everything I had to call her to wish her a happy b-day. She asked if I was okay. How does one answer that? “Sometimes?” “Of course, dear, don’t worry about it?” “Of fucking course not, you left me.” I went with “I am getting there.” Sorry, had to vent somewhere.
Steeplejack
A perfect end to the evening: I dropped into moderation hell with a seemingly innocuous comment. FYWP.
ETA: And it has appeared. WTF?! Editing this one to cancel double-postage. FYWP.
The prophet Nostradumbass
Maroon 5 can go DIAF right now, damn, they suck, that Beach Boys cover was godawful.
wobblybits
@The prophet Nostradumbass: agreed
David Koch
@Hill Dweller:
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Villago Delenda Est
@Mark S.:
I believe the NotMitt has found its final host, and is preparing for the kill.
Omnes Omnibus
@wobblybits: I haven’t been in a strip club in many years, but I have been told that “Move Like Jagger” is a popular song. It is no “Pour Some Sugar on Me” but the girls use it.
suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus:
I recorded it on my DVR and am watching it about half an hour behind. just saw Nicki Monaj. I don’t know why I put myself through that.
You’re good people. It gets easier. FWIW, I always told my ex that I was great. Seven years later, we’re both happily remarried, and I still always say that everything in just A-OK. Perhaps I’m cold, but, just, once we were done, we were DONE, IMO.
(I don’t believe in ex-boyfriend privileges, though. So apparently I’m a frigid bitch.)
The prophet Nostradumbass
@wobblybits: Brian Wilson looked absolutely petrified when he was up on the stage.
wobblybits
@Omnes Omnibus: (shudder)
wobblybits
@The prophet Nostradumbass: Yes, he did look a bit frozen up there but I did see him crack a smile.
Omnes Omnibus
@wobblybits: I wasn’t saying it was right. It just, apparently, is.
wobblybits
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh no, that wasn’t directed at you, rather just the thought of that song playing over and over again anywhere, even a strip club
The prophet Nostradumbass
@Omnes Omnibus: It’s tape-delayed 3 hours in California, where the event took place. Go figure.
Omnes Omnibus
@wobblybits: Oh, yeah, I took your meaning. Nevertheless, it apparently is played.
Hill Dweller
@David Koch: This is the first time I’ve thought Willard isn’t going to be the nominee.
If Newt quits or is persuaded to stop in the near future, combined with the party doubling down on contraception, it tells me the party elites have left Willard at the altar.
Yutsano
@suzanne:
You and me both, apparently. Once I’m done I’m DONE.
Of course I’m not married either. And probably won’t ever either. Regardless of a Dawg dropping hints about it.
Omnes Omnibus
Oh god, “Many Rivers to Cross.” Damn.
cbear
Thank god someone else saw that nightmare too—I thought I was flashing back on that brown acid my buddy talked me into taking at a Black Sabbath concert in 1979.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: Hints? Is this good?
Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: Well…it’s legal in my home state now (WOO-HOO!!) and it’s legal in his, so as soon as the law passed here he wanted to take me wedding clothes shopping. I’ve also told him where I want it to happen (here if you’ve missed me mentioning that) and he rolled right along when I suggested he go see it with me. So he’s suggested he’s…at least amenable to the idea. But nothing in the way of serious discussion.
Sarah Proud and Tall
@Villago Delenda Est:
You funny.
Martin
@Hill Dweller: Obama was leading Mitt in Michigan by 8, so this isn’t too surprising. I think Mitt fucked himself in the motor state with his ‘let the auto industry die’ comment.
Satanicpanic
I thought maroon 5 was a good choice to cover the Beach Boys, but I would have chosen a song that’s a little less dated. I think they put in a decent effort. YMMV.
pseudonymous in nc
I liked Nicki Minaj’s bit. It was suitably bonkers. Joe Walsh has tidied himself up a bit since the last time I saw him on the box, but that may be a decade ago.
@Hill Dweller:
It may imply that they’re giving up on the White House and looking to do their business for the next four years by taking the Senate.
Jimbo316
I can easily allow e.g. Nina Simone and Katy Perry in my head at the same time (well not literally but subsequently). Point is you know a real artist when you hear them, despite their different particular stripes. ‘
Of course, (cough) that said, Nina is so much sexier.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: Well, damn. Stanley Park is awesome. Technical question: Does one double up on groomsmen? Or does one go ecumenical on attendants? Etiquette will have to address this.
David Koch
@Hill Dweller: it’s just not going to be as easy to carpet bomb Santorum because nobody cares about earmarks.
Unless they can find something simple for the know-nothings and the low information types to digest, then Mittens is gonna get pulverized by the southern states in March.
http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-republican-primary-schedule/
Outside of the west coast, the mormon plains, the tri-state area, and taxechuettes, I don’t see where Mittens can win. He’s gonna end up losing 40 states.
piratedan
@Omnes Omnibus: hope you’ll get there soon OO….try to note the scenery along the way, sometimes that helps.
Hill Dweller
@pseudonymous in nc: Perhaps, but I can’t imagine Frothy Mix’s brand of crazy having coattails.
Mark S.
@Martin:
Ricky’s up by 15 in PPP’s national poll. Mitt better have millions of dollars in attack ads ready to go or he’s going to start getting creamed.
@Hill Dweller:
Newt’s probably going to throw in the towel after a couple more 4th place finishes. My guess is most of his supports going to Ricky.
If Santorum’s the nominee, then Obama is one lucky bastard.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@Omnes Omnibus: Stanley Park is pretty cool, there’s a great aquarium there, for one thing.
Omnes Omnibus
@piratedan: Nah, Jimmy Cliff was singing it. I, however, like John Cusack’s character in “High Fidelity,” want that song played at my funeral. In 50 or more years…
David Koch
Oh, mittens will probably win Virgina, because only he and Retard-Ron are on the ballot.
Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: There will be a sword arch ceremony. My guess is that will handle his side of the affairs as far as attendants. Mine will most likely be mixed gender. And I’m calling them attendants and the “best man” will be first attendant. But no walking down the aisle for me. We’ll come in from the sides and meet in the center. I find that more symbolic of a union.
Hey, just because I’ve thought about it doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen. :)
@The prophet Nostradumbass: Up on the north side of the park is a totem pole grove. Since I’m part Canadian aboriginal it seems fitting to unite under those watchful eyes.
The prophet Nostradumbass
Gotta say, Adele is a very good singer. She performs a style of music I’m not particularly into, but she’s very good.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: Fair enough. And, also too, it seems a reasonable way to arrange things. As time goes on and we become more civilized, we need to know the right way to do it. Your take on it seems good.
ETA: I have been in the totem pole grove. It is really cool.
Bago
Skrillex apparently got an award, and deadmau5 wore a tshirt with his personal phone number on it.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@Yutsano: Oh, yes, I saw that when I visited the park, way back in 1998. There’s also a cool totem pole grove in Beacon Hill Park in Victoria, which I also enjoyed.
Martin
@Mark S.:
Yeah, but we’ll see how long that lead lasts.
Mitts favorable/unfavorable is 29%/47%.
Santorum is 30%/37%
Voters don’t like Santorum that much more, they just dislike him less, and they know him a lot less. The only thing working in Santorums favor is his favorable/unfavorable are both trending upward (unlike Mitt who has a favorable trending down and unfavorable trending up). But that still means that Santorum may wind up 37/44 or thereabouts. That’s still pretty terrible. Get a coordinated attack against him and the leading slot on the evening news, and he might well wind up where Mitt and Newt are.
We’ll see, but if Santorum does wind up with high 40s unfavorable, who knows what the GOP will do.
suzanne
@Yutsano:
Can I come? That sounds rad.
I don’t get the bang-the-ex thing. If I wanted meaningless sex, there’s a hundred people walking down the damn street every day. Why screw it all up with feelings?
Yutsano
@suzanne: It goes something like this. Solemn and light-hearted all at the same time. Dress blues. Also. Too.
When you’re an ex, that has a definition for me. That means you’re out of my life. Period. It’s going to stay that way.
@Omnes Omnibus: The whole thing will more than likely be barely recognizable if you’re a traditionalist. But at least I’ll be in a white tux. :)
Mark S.
@Martin:
Oh, Ricky will be hugely unfavorable once voters get to know him. But in the piece I linked, it seems they look at just what Republicans think of the candidates:
Again, I’m pretty sure that’s just Republicans (they should’ve made that clearer), but those are pretty nice numbers for Santorum. Apparently, Republicans actually like that asshole.
freelancer
@Bago:
I’ve got a co-worker
whosewho’s batshit for Skrillex, but every cut I’ve heard sound like the same type of uninventive techno called dubstep, which is basically a reggae beat overlaid with skreeching keyboards. He’s also a Paultard and an Ayn Rand fan, but otherwise a funny guy.It may sound like distinction without a difference but give me Justice or Daft Punk any day of the week over dubstep.
opie jeanne
Can I just say that Dead Mau5 sucks?
I was subjected to and performed enough experimental music during college in the 70s, some of it very intelligent, that I do not want to listen to crap music if I don’t have to, and that was crap music.
David Koch
Jenifer Hudson sure looks gorgeous since she lost weight
opie jeanne
@Yutsano: Sounds terrific.
If this turns out to be what both of you want I hope it comes to pass.
In the meantime, I’m waiting for Utah to start pouring money into a referendum in Washington like they did in California. I am so effing pissed about that I can hardly speak without spitting. Or type. I hope Washington resists.
opie jeanne
@Yutsano: Ooooh! White tux!
Am I allowed to say “Yum!”?
opie jeanne
@David Koch: She does, and I’m embarassed to admit that I didn’t recognize her at first.
Villago Delenda Est
@suzanne:
Sonja: Sex without love is an empty experience.
Boris: Yes, but as empty experiences go, it’s one of the best.
opie jeanne
@Bago: I really hated that deadmau5 thing they did. Annoying and boring at the same time.
cmorenc
@Mark S.:
I’ll agree that should Santorum be the GOP nominee, Obama has an almost prohibitive, though short of fool-proof advantage going into the general election. If something unexpectedly bad happens that influences enough fools to vote for Santorum to defeat Obama, we are well and truly fucked.
The residual uncertainty that could cause such a foolish lurch in the electorate is the possibility of adverse events out of Obama’s control, such as a cascading deep economic slump in Europe set off by defaults, which causes strong enough ripple effects in the US to painfully reverse this country’s momentum toward recovery. Or perhaps it could be a unilateral Israeli attempt at a preemptive strike in Iran which goes significantly more poorly than hoped, and causes rapidly escalating regional conflict in the Middle East that spins out of control before it can be contained, including impairment of oil shipments from Saudi Arabia and heavily damaging retaliatory attacks against Israel.
MikeJ
I kinda like the diamond shaped f holes on Dave Grohl’s Gibson.
Yutsano
@opie jeanne: I hope they do. The worst mistake the Mormons could make is to get that referendum passed. Because the legislature just did what the Supreme Court asked them to two years ago when they punted on the issue. Now that they passed it there, the Court as much as said they will uphold it. And a referendum can’t strip a right once it’s been granted in WA. The religious right is on a fool’s errand. Plus McKenna will have to come out as defending the referendum, which will toast him in Seattle. And you cannot win in WA without Seattle. Period.
Are you coming to Sazerac Saturday?
MikeJ
@Yutsano:
It would be nice if there was a blog post somewhere to point people to like we had last time. Make sure you remind me about it as we get closer to the time.
Yutsano
@MikeJ: I was planning on it. Sazerac also does online reservations, so if I can get a rough headcount I’ll just set it up over the next day or two. CaseyL suggested 6:30PM for a rendezvous time which is fine by me. I have six solid yes votes, eight with you and opie jeanne. I might just go with 10 and adjust as necessary.
Suffern ACE
@cmorenc: short of a bailout of the banks again (which might lead to some sort of popular revolt) I’m not really convinced that any of those crises say “Santorum will save us”. Even if Iran were to premptively strike us, and the mullahs go on tv and say “we figured we’d do it now before Rick was in charge. that ombambi is so weak”, I can’t see Rick doing anything but get on tv and pee his pants.
freelancer
@Suffern ACE:
Sorry, I can see Rih bringing to life another scenario.
MikeJ
@freelancer: West Wing: the lost episodes.
freelancer
@MikeJ:
A small part of me thinks Sheen zealously agreed to play Bartlett if only to overshadow his very convincing performance as Stillson.
Suffern ACE
@freelancer-in November, Roseanne Barr might be in the ticket as the Green Party candidate. I fear her more than I fear Rick. I think in a total economic and military melt down, the public might turn to her. And they probably wouldn’t be wrong in doing so.
cmorenc
@Suffern ACE:
Well, who would have thought 9 months prior to the 1980 election that a hack actor whose resume included co-starring with a chimpanzee in “Bedtime for Bonzo” and who seemed a bit too extreme and scary to much of the electorate at that point, would be capable of winning the nomination, let alone the general election. I do think Santorum (a one-term Senator decisively defeated in his attempt at reelection) is a far longer shot to be able to successfully pull of Reagan’s feat; Reagan was twice successfully elected as Governor of California, and Carter was unlucky and awkward whereas Obama is lucky and smoothly sharp. Nevertheless, it’s a bit early to presumptively celebrate an Obama victory over Santorum in November, should he rather than Romney prove to be the nominee.
freelancer
@Suffern ACE:
You worry too much. She can’t even garner the infamous 27%.
Spaghetti Lee
@cmorenc:
Two-term. Of course, he lost his election for a third term 60-40, 5 years ago. I gotta figure if he’s the nominee Pennsylvania’s done as a swing state.
Anything can happen. I think one variable that you might be leaving out is that Obama’s basically been sitting back watching these clowns whup on each other. When he starts campaigning and his organization starts moving, then look out.
opie jeanne
@Yutsano: I don’t know what sazerac is, and no, I’m in California for the next couple of weeks.
Joel
As someone who doesn’t much like pop music, I can appreciate the fact that people are at least trying to be original on some level out there. Mostly, I’m just thankful that we’re out from under the hateful reign of Disney creations (Britney et al.). Since I don’t watch the Grammys, I turned to youtube for a sampling of Minaj’s performance. That thing was awful. Reminds me of those parody videos in Sprockets.
Suffern ACE
@freelancer – well I’m not as sophisticated in modeling these things as Nate Silver, but Roseanne wins in several simulations. The most likely one being:
-Greek default leads to Spanish Default. Unexpected Estonian default triggers black swan event which opens hole in balance sheet of TD Banknorth leading to TARP lite and riots in Dayton.
-President Obama orders a massacre of rioters.
-Iran tests its nuclear device on our naval base in Bahrain.
-President responds that there isn’t much he’s planning to do about that as he’s busy kicking Michelle out now that Demi Moore is on the market.
-Rick Santorum is the Republican nominee.
opie jeanne
@Yutsano: Ok, now I know what it is and I say, “Oh dammit!”
This trip is way too early, was supposed to be two weeks from now but my idiot niece did some stuff that forced us to drive south today. I am not a happy camper about it.
Yutsano
@opie jeanne: Well we could move the date. There’s a good reason for me to do so as well: a couple of pressing matters have come up with my folks (nothing hugely serious, just things I need to arrange) that would make going to the ranch this weekend advantageous. Especially as it’s a three-day weekend.
@Suffern ACE:
Your scenario was plausible until that moment. Michelle would kill him first.
Bobby Thomson
@Omnes Omnibus: Sorry to hear that. No, there’s no good answer to that question.
harlana
always been a huge Beatles fan, but stopped listening to McCartney after Wings broke up – i, too, want to remember them as they were
harlana
and how can anyone watch the Grammy’s? why would you even try? old fart, also too, i am – especially this one, depressing
harlana
and can someone explain to me how, nowadays, you can have one hit song and become an international sensation? back in the day, one hit wonders were just that
get off my lawn!
kth
I didn’t watch the Grammies (hardly ever do), but nothing described here sounds as awful and egregious as Michael Bolton, who was a Grammy perennial circa 1990. Perspective, people.
opie jeanne
@Yutsano: We’ll be back either the 1st or 2nd of March.
I’ll let you know before we head home.