Then they came for Clint Eastwood

My dad’s take on the Republican party, and why it can never become a real majority party, is that they just can’t stop themselves from being assholes. It’s like the scorpion in the frog — they’ll kill themselves to sting the frog, they can’t help it, it’s just in their nature.

The delicate Karl Rove said today he was “frankly, offended” during the Super Bowl halftime on Sunday. No, he didn’t mean his sensibilities were jolted by M.I.A.’s upraised middle finger; he was referring to the Chrysler ad that Clint Eastwood narrated, which many people who don’t share Mr. Rove’s political worldview thought was rather uplifting.

Do these douchebags want to make the election a contest between people who are rooting for American industry and assholes who want it to fail? They probably don’t, they just can’t help themselves.

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104 replies
  1. 1
    Raven says:

    So to celebrate the Democrats in the Senate vote to fuck with the airline unions.

  2. 2
    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    We have to find a way to make it about that. Not just one way, every way possible. Serve the fuckers right to finally be called out on their treason.

  3. 3
    Trentrunner says:

    The Republican Party is the Hilary Swank character in Billion Dollar Baby.

    And Clint’s just pulling the plug.

  4. 4
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I was kind of chuckling to myself that it seemed sorta kinda like an ad about the rescue of Detroit, but thinking that Clint Eastwood, as decent a guy as he might be, wouldn’t be doing ads for Obama. I was surprised to see how many people had the same reaction, and if the Evil Dr Wombat had this hysterical reaction, it’s because it spooked him.

    The notion that the man who morphed Max Cleland– Max Fucking Cleland— into Saddam Hussein, the man who organized what he thought was a campaign commercial on the USS Lincoln is “offended”…. he can go fuck himself. No one else will

  5. 5
    C.S. says:

    Do these douchebags want to make the election a contest between people who are rooting for American industry and assholes who want it to fail?

    Or, more precisely, do these douchebags want to make the election a contest between Clint Eastwood and assholes who think Clint Eastwood is un-American?

  6. 6
    RP says:

    I had the same reaction. I was sure that the right would try to downplay any connection between the ad and Obama. Maybe I’m crazy, but it seems like the politically smart move would be to refuse to acknowledge that he played some role in the auto industry’s recent success. But instead they’re freaking out and pissing on Clint F***ing Eastwood. They just can’t help themselves.

  7. 7
    Baud says:

    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.–Sun Tzu

  8. 8
    Mnemosyne says:

    I showed that commercial to one of my work friends who’s an Obama supporter but not as obsessive about following politics as I am, and she got more of a “Yay, America! We’re making a comeback!” vibe than specifically an Obama-supporting vibe.

    So this commercial may turn out to be a handy Asshole Detector.

  9. 9
    hildebrand says:

    Who could possibly think that going public with your kvetching about this commercial could possibly benefit your cause? The best possible reaction is that people would think you are small-minded.

  10. 10
    jrg says:

    Do the three million missing emails get released in the second half, too?

    I’ll never, as long as I live, forget how this shithead and his boss lied to America in the aftermath of 9/11. Never.

  11. 11
    dmsilev says:

    I just want to see the campaign devoted to declaring Clint Eastwood un-American. The phrase “do you feel lucky, well do you punk?” comes to mind…

  12. 12
    Baud says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    not as obsessive about following politics as I am

    I often have to remind myself that most people don’t follow politics on a day to day basis and have short memories. I’m not sure whether or not I envy them.

  13. 13
    DougJarvus Green-Ellis says:

    @Baud:

    I envy us.

  14. 14
    barath says:

    There is another side—setting aside the politics of it—that is worth making. That we might not want to be celebrating an industry that helps keep us burning fossil fuels (and worked to kill off electric rail and fuel efficiency standards and pollution regulations) when we’re faced with maybe the biggest challenge modern civilization has faced in climate change.

    Today Jeff Masters put it starkly:

    In isolation, the strange winter weather of 2011 – 2012 could be a natural rare occurrence, but there have been way too many strange atmospheric events in the past two years for them all to be simply an unusually long run of natural extremes. Something is definitely up with the weather, and it is clear to me that over the past two years, the climate has shifted to a new state capable of delivering rare and unprecedented weather events.

    That should stop us in our tracks—basically confirmation from someone who looks at the micro-scale weather data that the macro-scale climate forecasts were right, and that the climate has already made a shift (probably one of many we’ll experience).

  15. 15
    hildebrand says:

    If the Republicans actually chase Clint Eastwood off over this, I think a great many people will finally realize that they have nothing left but bitterness and spite. If they do, it will enter the history books as one of those bizarre pieces of campaign lore wherein something wholly banal swings an election (or cements the swing already in progress – and yes, I know that is a paradox, but go with me).

  16. 16
    Anya says:

    @Mnemosyne: Well, the righties don’t want people thinking “Yay America! We’re making a come back!” they want them thinking “We’re all doomed. I want my country back!”

  17. 17
    lamh35 says:

    I read somewhere that Clint Eastwood told O’Reilly that he’s not affiliated with “Mr Obama” and that the ad wasn’t political. I guess Mr Eastwood felt the need to defend himself…???

  18. 18
    tulip says:

    I don’t get how the ad was about Obama at all, frankly I was a little pissed that they DIDN’T say anything about the bailout or how Obama basically saved their company.

  19. 19
    Baud says:

    @DougJarvus Green-Ellis:

    I envy us.

    Now that’s exactly the positive attitude I needed to hear. I take back my “Dougie Downer” comment from the other day.

  20. 20
    Delia says:

    I always thought Clint Eastwood was a Republican. Or maybe the emphasis is on was.

    And I thought Karl Rove was supposed to be smart. But maybe he’s just the canned ham with glasses that Colbert uses to portray him.

  21. 21
    Anya says:

    @Raven: I read about that. What a bunch of selouts.

  22. 22
    Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor says:

    When ‘FAIL!’ is your brand, you’re fucked.

    Carry on, GOP.

  23. 23
    Mark S. says:

    Wow.

    Why was Karl Rove considered such a genius again?

    This, along with Mitt’s horrible approval ratings, almost makes up for me having the flu today. I’m beginning to doubt the the GOP is going to make it to 2020.

  24. 24
    AnotherBruce says:

    @Baud: Sorry Sun Tzu, but with today’s plethora of media, you should point at, shout and scream like a demon when your enemy is making a fool of himself.

  25. 25
    Mark K says:

    ot Here is some more good stuff backing up Mr. Coles righteous “they hate you rant”,,,we need to quit being nice:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm.....olite-left

  26. 26
    Anoniminous says:

    @barath:

    Being scientifically illiterate, the Wingers are all,” Global Warming is a Hoax!” due to the recent outbreak of cold weather in Europe.

    Conveniently ignoring the previous five months of above average temperature. Also ignoring – because they don’t know shit from shinola about the topic – these kinds of outbreaks are predictable and were predicted to happen by Climate Scientists¹ under and due to Global Warming.

    And while the specifics are a tad complicated and Complex, overall it’s easy to understand:

    1. Warming sea temperatures sends warm and moist air north further than it used to go which …

    2. Drives drives cold dry air further south than it used to …

    3. Creating a longer the Warm/Cold frontal boundary

    4. Which is where weather “happens”

    So, if you’ve got abnormally warm and moist air (lots of energy) hitting cold and dry air further south than usual you get lots of cold and snow further south than usual.

    Tah-dah

    ——————————————————————

    ¹ Ya know, them peeps who know WTF they are talking about?

  27. 27
    Trakker says:

    The Republicans want so badly for Obama to crash and burn that they will say and do anything to make it happen. They are becoming obsessed, and even people who don’t follow politics are seeing it.

    I think Obama will win this fall despite what will surely be the dirtiest, most hate-filled campaign of our lifetime. He will win because of it, because the right can no longer control their total obsession with destroying Barack Hussein Obama.

  28. 28
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Delia:

    I always thought Clint Eastwood was a Republican. Or maybe the emphasis is on was.

    He endorsed Herman Cain, and then Ron Paul

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    jl says:

    @lamh35:

    Mr. Eastwood said ‘Mr. Obama’? What is with the apparent respect? I smell a rat.

    Well that clinches it: Clint Eastwood, notorious libertarian commie pinko, ex mayor of Carmel CA, who turned that artsy fartsy richy rich burg into a grim totalitarian socialist work camp, is a mole for the DemocRAT party, heretofore operating under deep cover.

    I can see why Rove would be offended by an inspirational Detroit auto ad, full of cross race/ethnicity, cross age group, cross gender, multi class All American solidarity through hard times into good. The inspirational shots of beautiful All American grasslands glimmering under spreading trees and dappled sun and cloud was particularly offensive.

    I however, am much more tolerant than Rove. I am not frankly offended by the hilarious Asian economic threat ads, as long as they feature cute young chicks. Otherwise they are a waste of time, which is offensive in that respect.

    Go Karl Rove. Keep on going down your frankly offended path to political oblivion. I find your words frankly inspirational.

  30. 30

    The only people who would see the Chrysler ad as an Obama ad are those who admit to themselves anyway that Obama is largely responsible for Detroit’s resurgence. People who don’t make the connection probably won’t see the ad as political.

    And this includes Carl Rove.

    Cool, huh?

  31. 31
    Pongo says:

    People do realize that Eastwood is on record as ‘not being a fan’ of Obama, right? He said this on a CBS interview with Katie Couric, after he admitted to voting for John McCain in 2008 (apparently he thought Palin was a cheerleader for the half-time show). For all hamhead knows, Eastwood and Chrysler were trying to make a statement on behalf of Republicans, although the irony that everyone automatically assumed otherwise is rich.

  32. 32
    jl says:

    Mr. Eastwood said ‘Mr. Obama’? What is with the apparent respect? I smell a rat.

    Well that clinches it: Clint Eastwood, notorious libertarian commie pinko, ex mayor of Carmel CA, who turned that artsy fartsy richy rich burg into a grim totalitarian s * s h * l * s t work camp, is a mole for the DemocRAT party, heretofore operating under deep cover.

    I can see why Rove would be offended by an inspirational Detroit auto ad, full of cross race/ethnicity, cross age group, cross gender, multi class All American solidarity through hard times into good. The inspirational shots of beautiful All American grasslands glimmering under spreading trees and dappled sun and cloud was particularly offensive.

    I however, am much more tolerant than Rove. I am not frankly offended by the hilarious Asian economic threat ads, as long as they feature cute young chicks. Otherwise they are a waste of time, which is offensive in that respect.

    Go Karl Rove. Keep on going down your frankly offended path to political oblivion. I find your words frankly inspirational.

  33. 33
    marcopolo says:

    So this is slightly OT but I live in MO and just now MIchelle Malkin called to ask me to vote to Rih! Got a mailer from him just today as well. It all feels very surreal to me but I think I am just going to have to go to the polls tomorrow, ask for a Republican ballot and vote for Rih. I am helpless in the face of the Santorum assault.

    P.S. He is the only candidate who has asked for my support for the primary. Perhaps his is the only campaign spending money on a state primary that has no nada nothing to do with any kind of delegate apportionment?

  34. 34
    AxelFoley says:

    LOL, does Rove REALLY wanna fuck with Clint Eastwood?

    Go ahead, douche. Make his day.

  35. 35
    jl says:

    @Pongo:

    ” People do realize that Eastwood is on record as ‘not being a fan’ of Obama, right? ”

    Yes. But I also believe that he is not a wingnut. Though not sure.

  36. 36
    barath says:

    @Anoniminous:

    Yeah, I don’t expect Rove or GOPers to make that argument. But maybe if we step back for a second, it should be the one we’re making.

    I mean, I guess it’s good that Detroit is improving – they’ve had it hard for far too long. But, and I hate to cite him, but Michael Moore had a decent suggestion back in 2009: that we should bail out Detroit but on the condition that they go back to building buses and electric rail cars and other things for efficient public transit (which we’d then buy from them as part of the stimulus).

  37. 37
    waratah says:

    I thought they might start taking credit with G.W. started the ball rolling. Trouble is they have taken the opposite side so long it is ingrained on the low intelligence party members.

  38. 38
    jl says:

    @marcopolo:

    Are you an Ihaliah? Sounds like it. How was the trip to Hiha?

    Just to make sure you vote for the right person, write in Rih Anhoromh.

  39. 39
    Anoniminous says:

    @marcopolo:

    The Missouri “primary” tomorrow is an exercise in pointlessness. It’s a beauty contest. Delegates will be awarded at the GOP state convention on March 17th.

  40. 40
    Baud says:

    They’ll get Clint to speak at the Republican convention against Obama and all will be ok.

  41. 41
    jl says:

    @Baud: Eastwood will have to agree to drop this ‘Mr.” business with BHO.

  42. 42
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Pongo:

    The speculation yesterday was that Eastwood did the ad partially because he made his movie Gran Torino in Detroit and wanted to help support the city. So, yes, I would totally believe that Eastwood did not make the ad to express support for Obama. But I’m pretty sure that Chrysler did.

  43. 43

    Yeah Karl Rove was “offended” by the ad. You know what? I’m offended by Karl Rove. STFU and fuck you and your phony “offense.” I am so sick of these people and their ridiculous politics.

    In other news, RIP Doug Korthof, environmental activist featured in “Who Killed The Electric Car?” He died today. Big EV booster.

  44. 44

    @Delia: Eastwood is a Republican!!! With a libertarian bent.

  45. 45
    Mnemosyne says:

    @jl:

    Since we do not have an official aristocracy in the US, “Mr. Obama” is a perfectly legitimate and polite way to refer to him or to address him. Using his elected title is optional.

    Sorry, but I always thought that was a silly complaint coming from Republicans regarding Bush, and it’s equally silly coming from Democrats. Calling him “Mr. Obama” or “President Obama” is equally respectful in American etiquette.

  46. 46
    Anoniminous says:

    @barath:

    US mass manufacture of internal-combustion engine powered cars is in its twilight. It would be nice if the US car companies would adjust to producing other products but I fear their “corporate culture” (read: stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance) won’t let them.

  47. 47
    gex says:

    @lamh35: “Mr. Obama” is how he showed them he’s one of them. It’s their kissing and making up.

  48. 48

    @barath:

    Energy from sources other than oil:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....via=search

    Progress is being made, here a little and there a little. Will it be enough? Dunno.

  49. 49

    @AxelFoley: I’m going to Tweet that, right now!!

  50. 50
    gex says:

    @AnotherBruce: There was a draft scroll where Sun Tzu instructs you on a waging a Twitter offensive when your opponent is making a mistake.

  51. 51
    Cacti says:

    Clint’s a Republican but not a very good one.

    He puts country before political party. There’s just no place for that in KKKarl Rove’s GOP.

  52. 52
    jl says:

    @Mnemosyne: What you say is true, but I doubt you will be invited to speak at the GOP convention. You are too polite and reasonable.

  53. 53

    Mary Matilin on CNN was surprised at Rove’s reaction. She didn’t mention the current president’s Detroit assistance, but did bring up Bush II’s bridge loans to the American automakers. Karl had to be aware that they did this. Without those bridge loans, there was have been no auto industry for President Obama to save.

    In other words, there is every reason in the world to view the salvation of the Big 3 as a bipartisan effort, and no doubt Eastwood sees it like that. The only reason it seems like an Obama ad is because the apparent GOP nominee is on tape amd in print saying Let Detroit Fail. Rove is an effing idiot.

  54. 54
    barath says:

    @Anoniminous:

    I agree, and it’s too bad. I mean, they are slowly shifting towards electric cars, and that’s good as far as it goes, though we’ll hit a point where gas will cost too much but folks won’t have the money to buy a new electric car and we’ll be stuck. The better societal investment is moving away from personal vehicles entirely…

    @Linda Featheringill:

    So I did some calculations a few months back, and it seemed unlikely that alternatives would meet our energy demand in the timeframe we have to move off of fossil fuels (~20 years). But I’m sure we will move to alternatives, just at a lower level of use and as a result lower level of economic activity (i.e. way lower GDP)…

  55. 55
    kay says:

    I watched and I didn’t get an overtly political sense.

    I recognize Morning in America, but Ronald Reagan didn’t invent the concept of a comeback, and the country didn’t begin in 1980.

    I think Chrysler is trying to sell cars.

    Karl Rove should get a real job.

  56. 56
    gex says:

    @Anoniminous:

    ¹ Ya know, them peeps who know WTF they are talking about?

    These people (the deniers) find revelation more convincing than experimentation.

    Edited for clarity. Stupid pronouns.

  57. 57
    jl says:

    @Joseph Nobles: Thanks for the reminder about Bush II’s bridge loans. He has been declared a failed commie by his own party, though.

    Maybe things aren’t looking so good even by the famous Karl Rove special political math, and so he is losing it. That would be good news.

  58. 58
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Anoniminous:

    It may be a “beauty contest”, but it will capture the attention of the vermin of the Village, just as the equally meaningless Iowa caucuses did.

    Santorum needs the mo. That’s what it’s all about. If he’d got some mo, that translates into people sending money, which can be turned into delegates, eventually.

    It’s true the stupid motherfucker doesn’t have the slightest chance, but that’s the theory, at least.

  59. 59
    LGRooney says:

    From the CPAC agenda, for Thursday at 1pm:

    Conservative Dating – McKinley TheTeaParty.net Red Carpet Event. Learn everything from how to avoid scaring away your own personal Dagny Taggart in the first five minutes of the conversation, to whether Tea Partiers and Occupiers can share something more than a dislike for bailouts.

    I have for so long wanted to ride the Metro or take a walk near the zoo while this is going on and raise hell in some way. Unfortunately, I have a real job and can’t just run off to have fun with these morons.

  60. 60

    @kay: Being an a-hole on Faux News IS his job now.

  61. 61
    Bruce S says:

    We Explain Everything!

    The name of Chrysler’s chief executive is Sergio Marchionne.

    Not kidding…

  62. 62
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    The thing is, unless you’re referring to Barack Obama as “that one”, you’re showing too much respect for the near, uppity sheriff.

    If you catch my drift.

  63. 63
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’ve actually been a little surprised Santorum hasn’t done better. He’s the Justin Bieber of the hard core abortion fetishists. I’m sure all my “pro-life” aunts will vote for him. They may write him in the general.

  64. 64
    slag says:

    Then they came for Clint Eastwood

    They can have him.

  65. 65
    Anoniminous says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Public Policy Polling is wondering if Ging’ers has had his turn as being the Not-Romney of the Month and it’s Santorum’s turn.

    A “win” in Missouri would help Frothy along?

    ETA: the best 56 seconds in film history

  66. 66
    Delia says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Santorum is a twerp. It may be a kind of old fashioned word, but that’s what he is. The sweater vests prove it. He may be a hard-core reactionary bigot, advocating policies just this side of Torquemada, but he’s still a twerp and it shows. That’s what sinks him.

  67. 67
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Anoniminous: They’ve got him 2 points above Romney in MN, which would be sweet if Santorum took two out of three
    02/04/2012 US-Pres ’12 (R) (MN) Rick Santorum 29.0% Mitt Romney 27.0% Santorum +2 PPP (D)

  68. 68

    @LGRooney:

    From the CPAC agenda, for Thursday at 1pm:

    HA HA HA HA HA

    OMG someone needs to sneak into that session and capture some video it would be HILARIOUS…..

  69. 69
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Given that Minnesota is the home state of the crazy eyed lady, I think Santorum does have a good chance to pull out a win, no matter how narrow, there.

    This gives him some more media splash, which is his entire strategy from the beginning, to establish some mo in the early going before serious delegate allocations begin.

    The structure of the GOP nomination race is pretty weird this year, and that lends itself to unconventional approaches. Although I can’t say I think too much of Newt Gingrich’s “meh, getting on the ballot in some states is TOO HARD” attitude..

  70. 70
    Bruce S says:

    Eastwood doesn’t give a shit about the current GOP field. He made a comment recently that he might decide who he supports after he’s “listened to all of that crap on television.” He also has dialed back the assertion that he’s “not a fan” of President Obama. Basically said he doesn’t think any of the guys running are better than any other. Eastwood would like to be a Republican, but the hysterical GOP assholes won’t let him in 2012. Which is fine. Run Clint off the reservation! Make my day. (And, frankly, I doubt that Clint gives a shit.) It’s proof to any folks left on the right-ward side who still have some remnants of a soul that the GOP has devolved into instrument of The Devil – not an American political party. I’m a big Eastwood fan, so I’m more than happy to see my guy – who represents an authentic American conservatism that is driven by more than a mean spirit and a racist bent – pushed aside by creeps like Karl Rove. C’mon over!

  71. 71
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Delia: yep, a creepy twerp. That’s why I’d bet against him being the Veep, as some are saying. He oozes creepy twerp, and I think moderates would be put off by him and his freakish, pre-Reformation Catholicism. But he’s got his fans among the 27%.

    @Villago Delenda Est: Yup. There could be some fun down the road. Squirm, Willard, squirm.

  72. 72
    Anoniminous says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    With Newt and Santorum splitting the Fundie-Cons it’s hard to see how Willard can’t get the nomination.

  73. 73
    Seanly says:

    Karl Rove can’t DIAF fast enough.

    That wasn’t a political ad. It was a macho America can kick butt & buy a car plz ad.

  74. 74
    Lojasmo says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    PPP historically sucks in MN. Romney will win here, barely. Santorum might come in second…likely a 3 way tie for second.

    Santorum was in my town today. He spoke at a local dive. Ther MIGHT have been a dozen people there.

  75. 75
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Anoniminous: Oh, I think Willard’s got an all but dead-girl/live-boy lock on the nomination, I just want him to have to sweat (metaphorically, of course), squirm, spend and grovel all the way to Tampa

  76. 76
    Lojasmo says:

    @Bruce S:

    Eastwood has more gravitas than the entirety of the republican party. So does my former governor Jessie Ventura. But I digress.

  77. 77
    Steve says:

    Everybody I know from Michigan loved the ad, which is a lot of people. And they’re certainly not all liberals.

    I beg Karl Rove to make a partisan controversy out of this.

  78. 78
    Bruce S says:

    WaPo: “Eastwood helped write the ad, his manager Leonard Hirshan told New York magazine”

    In the same article it’s noted that Eastwood opposed all “bailouts” at the time – auto and bank, presumably because he’s a self-styled libertarian who doesn’t much like the GOP any more. It doesn’t make sense to parse Eastwood’s politics the way one would parse some political blogger. He responds in the moment and it’s not based on dogmatics. He’s not Paul Krugman – he’s just some guy who happens to be famous and reacts to things in the real world with an obvious dose of pragmatism, and has the talent to create resonant moments on camera. Thanks for this one, Clint!

  79. 79
    Rawk Chawk says:

    @jrg:

    I’ll never, as long as I live, forget how this shithead and his boss lied to America in the aftermath of 9/11. Never

    We must always look forward, not back.

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    marcopolo says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, that is my rationale for pulling a Republican ballot tomorrow in MO. I would really really relish seeing frothy win in MN & MO as opposed to the walk it looks like Romney will have in CO. Even with no delegates coming out of MO, that picture will make it look as if Romney is just not competitive in the Midwest swing states compared to Rih.

  81. 81
    Rawk Chawk says:

    @Mark S.:

    Why was Karl Rove considered such a genius again?

    Well, for starters, he got the special needs, draft dodging, drunk driving Bush boy selected to the presidency twice, he got the press and 90 percent of the country to go along with a bullshit war, and now he’s filthy rich on consulting and speaking gigs, AND he’s influencing the political discussion in this country…

    …he is an EVIL genius, but some kind of canned ham genius nonetheless.

  82. 82
    fuckwit says:

    Eastwood is kind of a libertarian type. IIRC he was a Republican as mayor of Carmel. He’s come out as indifferent on religious issues like gay marriage.

    He’s much more a Ron Paul type than Karl Rove type.

    Still, it’ll be fun to see the nutso party go crazy and try to attack him.

  83. 83
    khead says:

    If you don’t support the ad, this cat will come and scratch your eyes out.

    How’s that?

  84. 84
    Bago says:

    What in the hell happened today? Was there some kind of conference call of panic that set off a bullshit shotgun? War with Iran, affirmative action at the abortionplex, and the unemployment claim denials? Rove bitching about successful American enterprise? All within a 6hour timespan?

    The hell?

  85. 85
    Calming Influence says:

    Over stirring French horns and stark photos of Detroit workers, the ad used the auto industry’s rebirth from bankruptcy as a symbol of American renewal and determination. But it contained some shocking language for those, like Mr. Rove, who are easily bruised

    I don’t think it was the shocking language; I think Crysler fucked up when they went with the “stirring French Horns”.

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    lamh35 says:

    Here’s Clint Eastwood response sort:
    Clint Eastwood On Chrysler Super Bowl Commercial: ‘I’m Not Politically Affiliated With Mr. Obama’

    “l am certainly not politically affiliated with Mr. Obama. It was meant to be a message about job growth and the spirit of America,” Eastwood, a libertarian and longtime Republican voter, said Monday evening on Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor” about the ad… Chrysler was one of the companies saved in President Obama’s 2009 auto bailout, which Eastwood has publicly opposed. “I think all politicians will agree with it,” he continued. “I thought the spirit was OK.”

    Eastwood, who said he was “not supporting any politician at this time,” also gave his blessing for either party to reference the spot, or at least its message.
    “If Obama or any other politician wants to run with the spirit of that ad, go for it,” he said.

    Here’s Clint’s longtime manager:

    “I think that Rove and everybody, if they’re sensible, would wonder why a longtime Republican and Libertarian would do that,” he said. “Just think about that, how silly that is: It’s not like [the ad] was done by a left-winger, like Paul Newman in his day. It was done by a Republican, and he was doing it about America. There’s not anything political to do with it whatsoever. I don’t want him to do commercials, and as far as I’m concerned, it’s a PSA [public service announcement]. Period.”

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    David Koch says:

    It’s desperation.

    They’ve got nothing.

    Rove is making a vain attempt to generate a backlash. But with the lack of GOP enthusiasm, as seen with declining turnout during the primaries, it’s just not going to work.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Calming Influence: French horn is Callista Bisek Gingrich’s instrument.

    Um, her _other_ instrument.

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    jefft452 says:

    @kay: “I watched and I didn’t get an overtly political sense.”

    I don’t think many people did, which makes the conservative criticism all the more tone deaf

    Chrysler made an “America, fuck yeah!” ad, which would have been forgotten in a week if the wing-nut Wurlitzer hadn’t shouted it’s disagreement with the sentiment

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    russell says:

    If it offends Karl Rove, it’s good for the nation.

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    solikemybeth says:

    “We shouldn’t be bailing out the banks and car companies,” actor, director and Academy Award winner Eastwood told the Los Angeles Times in November 2011. “If a CEO can’t figure out how to make his company profitable, then he shouldn’t be the CEO.”

    Let’s take bets on whether director/producer Eastwood has ever gotten state tax credits for location filming and fix his quote – “If a producer can’t figure out how to make a profitable film without taxpayer assistance, then he shouldn’t be producing the film.”

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    Shawn in ShowMe says:

    I’m glad that Clint’s position happens to align with ours at the moment but the guy doesn’t appear to be a very deep political thinker. He goes from shoveling dirt on American autoworkers to cheerleading them in less than three months? And this is an example of a sensible Republican. Wow.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @solikemybeth:

    I dunno, I don’t think it’s so crazy to say that a CEO who drove his company into the ground should be fired. That’s what Chrysler did right after the bailout went through.

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    nellcote says:

    @Southern Beale:

    OMG someone needs to sneak into that session and capture some video it would be HILARIOUS…..

    For some reason cspan seems compelled to cover the ccrap convention gavel to gavel every year.

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    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    @jl:

    I heard the part of the BillO interview with Eastwood and Clint sounded respectful of the President and said that if anyone, including the President, wants to run with the ad to promote our industry then that’s perfectly fine with him. I thought Eastwood sounded irritated that people would think he would collude with any politician to praise the US auto industry and that he was glad to do it because he is behind the American manufacturers and workers. The last part about anyone, including Obama, using it to promote the country was a nice move on his part compared usual ‘Obama is exploiting this for political gain’ bullshit we hear from the right.

    I think Eastwood did well in responding to this. We’ll see how the right responds to him…lol

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    Chris says:

    @Shawn in ShowMe:

    I’m glad that Clint’s position happens to align with ours at the moment but the guy doesn’t appear to be a very deep political thinker. He goes from shoveling dirt on American autoworkers to cheerleading them in less than three months? And this is an example of a sensible Republican. Wow.

    Sad but true: the sensible ones are the ones who don’t think much. Their bearings are so fucked up and the places they get their “information” so full of shit that the more they try to “think” about politics, the more off-base and incoherent they get.

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    Kathy in St. Louis says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    “No one else will.” There are limits, you know, as to what any human being should be expected to do. Sex with Rove is way beyond those limits.

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    Kathy in St. Louis says:

    @russell:

    Russell, I think I love you.

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    debbie says:

    Unbelievable that conservatives would denigrate Detroit’s resurrection and instead line up behind Trump’s achieving success through serial bankruptcy. This speaks volumes about their “principles.”

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    kindness says:

    I understand the ‘conservative’ talking heads in the MSM think they represent ‘conservative’ thought and the Republican Party, but they don’t. Oh sure, they’ll represent the elites, they’ll represent what they think is the lizard brained base. But they’ll miss a whole bunch of quiet types that aren’t on the same page. What pisses me off so is that those quiet types that are offended at their party being hurtled off the rails don’t speak up. They seemingly refuse to criticize the party that my parents believed in. It used to be that north eastern republicans believed in separation of church and state, they believed in individual choice wrt birth control and abortion. Their republicanism was essentially one of a more limited federal role mostly by watching the money better and being frugal with the budget.

    They’re still there. They just allow the crazy’s to speak for them. At what point do they realize these nuts no longer represent their interests? At what point do they vote for a moderate Democrat?

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    Berial says:

    The Republicans NEED the economy to be bad, so they can win the upcoming elections. They have been working towards keeping the economy down so long, that they have internalized this need, and forgot that nobody else wants a poor economy. Showing a recovering auto industry IS, to them, a political ad for their opponents.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @marcopolo: I’m not sure i agree about Romney in Colorado. There are a lot of evangelicals in colorado, including my sister, and they are not fans of Romney. My sister is for Santorum.

    Edit: Last time we spoke, she said said she likes Santorum a lot more than Gingrich. She didn’t even mention Romney – not even a possibility for her as a well-informed evangelical who was able to tell me, from memory, the whole story of the mormons and tablets etc etc etc

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    lou says:

    Usually when I dip into yahoo.com’s comments section of a story, I need to take a shower after reading the illiterate rightwing comments. Yahoo commenters were pretty unanimous that this was an apolitical, yay America ad, and Karl Rove can go f#ck himself.

    George Bush’s Brain’s trial balloon just exploded big time.

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    Clint Eastwood Ad Madness (Limerick)
    By Madeleine Begun Kane
    It seems Eastwood committed a sin:
    His truth-telling ad brought chagrin
    To the GOP crowd –
    Words of hope said out loud
    Are a threat — they might help our Prez win.

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