Pete Lose It Now

Here’s Pete Hoekstra’s local ad promoting the key message of his Senate campaign: he’s an asshole. Pete’s going to learn the hard way that winning a D+4 state is different from winning a R+7 district.

If you want to relive the rest of the national Super Bowl ads, you can find them here.

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111 replies
  1. 1
    Napoleon says:

    Didn’t a complete right wing nut job win in Mich for governor a year or so ago?

  2. 2
    amk says:

    @Napoleon: Especially after this admin bailed out their bread & butter industry ?

  3. 3
    Brian R. says:

    Christ, what an asshole.

  4. 4
    JGabriel says:

    Shorter Hoekstra:

    Hi! I’m Pete Whorekstra, Shifting The Tax Burden From The Very Rich To YOU! Because I’m All About YOU! (AndI’mARacistScumbagToo.)

    .

  5. 5
    gene108 says:

    I soooo wished Gingrich would’ve won the Republican nomination because guys like Hoekstra shitted all over Newt, during the whole ethics broo-ha-ha he had as Speaker.

    It’d be fund to watch them try to kow-tow to Newt to curry his favor and forgiveness for their past attacks on him.

  6. 6
    JGabriel says:

    Napoleon:

    Didn’t a complete right wing nut job win in Mich for governor a year or so ago?

    Which is why Hoekstra thinks he can win the Senate seat.

    .

  7. 7
    Steve says:

    Michigan’s governor is not a right wing nut job, and he ran a very centrist campaign. Of course there are those who believe every Republican is an extremist, but I don’t really feel like arguing with them.

  8. 8
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Holy fucking shit. That is one despicable ad. My gob, it is smacked.

  9. 9
    JGabriel says:

    gene108:

    I soooo wished Gingrich would’ve won the Republican nomination …

    There’s still time. If Mitt gets hit by a bus or an inside trading scandal, Newt’s all they got left.

    .

  10. 10
    Tokyokie says:

    Nice move having the actress (who looks Thai to me, not Chinese) speak in a fake Chinese accent. But then, I guess it’d all appeal to morons who see a direct correlation between federal deficits and the strength of the Chinese economy.

  11. 11
    Napoleon says:

    @JGabriel:

    Which is not exactly insane considering, as someone pointed out, they elected that nutjob Gov after the auto industry was bailed out.

    Edit – to Steve. I guess if that is true it is not predictive of what would happen to someone who isn’t hiding they are far to the right would do, but my impression was that he has at least governed pretty far to the right, and that to anyone paying attention to his past would have realized that would be the case, but I don’t live in Mich so it is not like I pay attention to the state day to day.

  12. 12
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Steve: I would say extremist or enabler of extremists, and the functional difference between the two is virtually nil.

  13. 13
    gene108 says:

    As offensive as the ad is, it probably could strike a chord with frustrated voters. Really depends on Stabenow’s popularity.

    If she doesn’t have huge favorables this sort of ad could work.

  14. 14
    JGabriel says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Holy fucking shit. That is one despicable ad. My gob, it is smacked.

    Right? It’s like someone in the GOP strategy room said, “Hey, I’ve got idea! Let’s use the Hoekstra campaign to test-market a revival of Yellow Peril slurs! What could go wrong with that?”

    .

  15. 15
    magurakurin says:

    Holy shit! What did he take his cues for this ad from World War II anti-Japanese propaganda? Even added the “accented” English.

    Seriously you have to dig back to something like this or this to find something as blatantly racist. I’m guessing he’s written off the Chinese-American vote altogether. Christ, what a dick.

  16. 16
    amk says:

    @Steve: Right. Cut taxes for corporations while cutting services for the poor and middle class (from Forbes no less) ricky boy is a moderate. Indeedy.

  17. 17
    JGabriel says:

    Steve:

    Of course there are those who believe every Republican is an extremist …

    Only because we have this horribly biased tendency to learn from experience.

    .

  18. 18
    C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Of course you can’t rate or comment on the video itself. I would love to see the dislikes shoot up on that one.

  19. 19
    Maude says:

    @JGabriel:
    They are pounding the drum for a war with Iran.

  20. 20
    amk says:

    @JGabriel: Apparently some would trust the election time pablum than the fucking reality that is telling them to wake the fuck up.

  21. 21
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Steve:

    All Rethugs are fascist scum now.

    Fuck them all.

  22. 22
  23. 23
    Shalimar says:

    @Steve: Maybe he isn’t a nutjob, but you’re seriously arguing that the guy who has corporate lackeys actually taking over towns from local voters isn’t an extremist?

  24. 24

    @Tokyokie: #10

    Nice move having the actress (who looks Thai to me, not Chinese) speak in a fake Chinese accent.

    You might be right. That could explain why, the first time I saw the ad, I was confused about which country she was talking about. The visual and audio cues didn’t match.

  25. 25
    Citizen Alan says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Amen. Anyone who votes Republican hates America. That is all.

  26. 26
    Sly says:

    It actually gets a whole lot worse when you go to Hoekstra’s website. Be sure to scroll down through the whole thing so as to bask in the full panoply of Yellow Peril.

  27. 27
    ornery_curmudgeon says:

    Accusing ‘liberals’ of what the conservatives actually did.

    Maybe it works like this? If I don’t pay attention but I do feel things are going badly … then media/ads give me an answer to what I’m feeling: PRESTOmatic I now blame whoever the media told me to?

    I really think media is the problem. I mean we do know that propaganda exists and has a very real effect. This sort of belligerent falsehood is really just a symptom: it’s there because it works.

  28. 28
    Schlemizel says:

    @Linda Featheringill:

    You’re forgetting that they all look alike to the voters Pete wants to reach. “Chinese, Thia what difference does it make”?

  29. 29
    Quarks says:

    I know jack squat about his opponent, and already I’m on her side, because although she might be a major spender, in her defense she didn’t spend money on this ad.

  30. 30
    Chyron HR says:

    @Steve:

    Michigan’s governor isn’t a right wing nut job! He ran a very centrist campaign!

    If you squint really hard, that almost looks like logic.

  31. 31
    gnomedad says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    My gob, it is smacked.

    As Andy Kaufman’s “Latka” character would have said, you took the tongue right out of my mouth.

    That actress must have been really desperate for a job.

  32. 32
    slightly_peeved says:

    @Linda Featheringill:

    Sounded like an American accent to me, or at the very least a Chinese person who’s lived in America for a while. Chinese people who’ve lived in Australia sound noticeably different. She was speaking baby English in an attempt to sound more Chinese, which is some sort of racism double-play. Though when your Chinese person is wearing a straw hat over one shoulder as she bicycles through a fucking rice paddy, why not throw in every other racist trope while you’re at it?

  33. 33
    brantl says:

    @Steve: No, Steve, he’s not a centrist, which is why he fucked schools and now has a surplus, without any willingness to give any of that funding back to the schools. He’s the same “starve the beast”, screw the poor, screw anybody not rich, so long as we repeal regulation and keep the rich’s taxes down kind of guy.

  34. 34
    4tehlulz says:

    I like how “NOW.com” is in yellow, for extra subtlety.

  35. 35
    Elizabelle says:

    God save us from the people that ad would work on.

  36. 36
    Morbo says:

    According to the banner ad up top, the Democrats already have a response.

  37. 37
    MattF says:

    All we need now is Dr. Foo-Man-Chu to rise up out of the rice paddy. It’s not easy, being both brilliant and sub-human, but if there’s a will, there’s a way.

  38. 38
    amk says:

    @Elizabelle: Well, “steve” comes to mind.

  39. 39
    rikryah says:

    that is one whack ad

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    @slightly_peeved:

    Though when your Chinese person is wearing a straw hat over one shoulder as she bicycles through a fucking rice paddy, why not throw in every other racist trope while you’re at it?

    I also thought that the rice paddy looked like it was somewhere south and east of China itself.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Linda Featheringill:

    “Actress” (and locale) might be Vietnamese?

    I dunno.

    Anyway, the ad blows.

  42. 42
    Elizabelle says:

    More projection too. Blaming Democrats for jobs going overseas.

    Not an easy case for a Republican to make, I would think.

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    JGabriel says:

    MattF:

    All we need now is Dr. Foo-Man-Chu to rise up out of the rice paddy…

    … With laser beams shooting out of his eyes as he cackles with glee and shouts, “White people, become my enthralled hypnotized debt slaves, or DIE!”

    Hoekstra is probably saving it for the sequel.

    .

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Linda Featheringill:
    “South and east of China” would be somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. Rice paddies would actually be plausible for southern China, which is still near enough tropical for them. Further north, of course, people grow either the kind of rice that doesn’t need paddies or wheat.

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    JGabriel says:

    @4tehlulz:

    I like how “NOW.com” is in yellow, for extra subtlety.

    I missed that one, amidst all the blatant.

    .

  46. 46
    rlrr says:

    @Tokyokie:

    Nice move having the actress (who looks Thai to me, not Chinese) speak in a fake Chinese accent.

    “What, all Asians don’t look alike?”
    — the GOP

  47. 47
    Amir Khalid says:

    @rlrr:
    Well, the further south you go from Northern China, the browner we tend to be.

  48. 48
    Tone In DC says:

    I cannot see that video at work, and my phone’s speaker is junk if I try to watch that way.

    Hoekstra being utterly and irredeemably vile is no surprise, though.

  49. 49
    Steve says:

    @Chyron HR: It’s not “logic,” it’s two separate statements of opinion. Why you chose to alter the quote to try and make it look like an argument is beyond me, but it’s pretty dishonest.

    The comments have pretty much proven my point. Among this crowd, every single Republican is an extremist whacko, so it’s pointless to have a debate. Plus I sense there are quite a few people whose expertise is based upon nothing more than a Maddow segment or two.

    This is my view: Hoekstra is quite a bit farther right than Michigan’s current governor, he shows no signs of hiding his extremism for campaign purposes, and he will probably lose because of it. The election of the present governor had more to do with his centrist campaign and perceptions of the outgoing Democratic governor than with some shift of the electorate to the far right.

  50. 50
    Chyron HR says:

    @Steve:

    Yes, it’s pointless for you reasonable centrists to try and have a debate with us loony left libtards. Boo hoo.

  51. 51
    rlrr says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I could have wrote “east “Asians,” but that would have been too subtle.

  52. 52
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Steve:

    Go DIAF, fascist sympathizer.

  53. 53
    handsmile says:

    Hoekstra is yet another unemployed* Republican (like Mittens, Frothy, and N. Leroy) looking to get back on the government teat. So he can denounce it from the comforts of the Senate chamber and plush television studios (while enjoying iron-clad, platinum-plated health and pension benefits.)

    (*He picks up some wingnut welfare as a part-time lobbyist for a Washington law firm and as a “distinguished fellow” at the Heritage Foundation.)

    The most recent polling of the Michigan Senate race (EPIC/MRA, November) between Debbie Stabenow and this racist clown shows the incumbent with a 6 point lead, but under 50% (48/42).

    And for those curious about Michigan governor Rick Snyder’s far-right bona fides, let me suggest you Google the phrase “Benton Harbor.”

  54. 54
    JasonF says:

    Does the GOP really want to make outsourcing a campaign issue when they will almost certainly have Mr. Bain at the top of their ticket?

  55. 55
    Rommie says:

    Seriously folks, Snyder *was* the moderate R, compared to the clowns he ran against in the R primary.

    So yeah, given that the Gov has done more than a few wingnut moves, as people have pointed out, it could have been even worse. But he’s plenty bad enough as is.

    What it has really shown is that it doesn’t matter how “moderate” the executive is. As long as they are not a genuine RINO, they’ll “moderately” enable just about anything the wingnut legislative branch sends to their desk.

    And that’s why a “moderate” Romney as POTUS, with the wingnuts in control of the House and Senate, is a recipe for disaster. He’ll just quietly sign almost any bill sent to him, The End. Newt would wave the pom-poms as the bills arrived, that’s the main difference between them.

    As far as Mr. Hoekstroika, let’s put it this way: If Stabenow can’t honk his clown nose and bury him, she’d lose against a cardboard cutout of John Engler. I’m not getting the vibe that the state is way more wingnut than 2008, so Pete’s gonna need a bigger bomb to win.

  56. 56
    RedKitten says:

    Wow…just…wow. There are no words whatsoever for how vile that ad is.

  57. 57
    RedKitten says:

    And that WEBSITE. Ohmypromotionalkittenbasket that is just the WORST. Holy shit on a shingle, that’s bad!

  58. 58
    Elizabelle says:

    @Steve:

    Yeah, in Virginia we had Bob McDonnell, graduate of Pat Robertson’s university, run as a moderate Republican.

    I hear you.

  59. 59
    RedKitten says:

    And of course, Hoekstra is doubling down, saying that the ad was great and that there’s nothing wrong with highlighting how Democrat’s policies send jobs to China.

    Much like Hoekstra would think there was nothing wrong with an ad talking about immigration issues, featuring an offensive, stereotypical depiction of a Mexican….

  60. 60
    Lee says:

    @Steve: At the moment I think you’re right. I had to google to find out your governor’s name and policies since he is not doing any sort of crazy shit to get in the news.

    I’m an expert in crazy, I live in Texas :)

  61. 61
    Elizabelle says:

    @RedKitten:

    Because if there’s anything the Bush-Cheney administration stands out for, it’s a vigorous American economy and good financial practices. No jobs lost there. Move along.

  62. 62
    RedKitten says:

    @Elizabelle: Look, over there! It’s a Chinese chick with a straw hat on a bicycle and a Mexican guy wearing a serape and riding a burro, and they’re COMING FOR YOUR JOBS!

  63. 63
    Don K says:

    @Napoleon:

    Just proof that a wave election knows few boundaries.

    And actually Snyder was the least nutty of the four candidates for the Rep nomination. They also had Hoekstra, Attorney General Mike “Admitted Felon” Cox, and Oakland County Sheriff Mike “I don’t care about overwhelming votes of the people, I’m gonna keep busting medical mj dispensaries and patients” Bouchard.

    I’m guessing MI is a lock for Obama and Stabenow this year, and there’s a chance to win back a seat or two in the House. I’ll have to spend some quality time with DRA and the new State House districts to see if there’s a chance of taking back the House.

  64. 64
    Elizabelle says:

    @RedKitten:

    Yes. Yellow peril, brown peril — peril, peril, peril. Be skeered.

    Meanwhile, Hoekstra promises not to spend anything.

    When rebuilding manufacturing and infrastructure improvements, that would help put Michiganders to work, do cost money. No “spend it now” here, though.

    The Heritage Foundation knows so much more Paul Krugman.

    What’s wrong with Michigan that this doofus has a six-point lead?

  65. 65
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    The fact that Snyder may have been the least right-wing of the GOP candidates does not mean that he was or is a moderate.

  66. 66
    Elizabelle says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Hi Omnes. Little Boots was asking after you last night.

  67. 67
    JGabriel says:

    Rommie:

    Seriously folks, Snyder was the moderate R, compared to the clowns he ran against in the R primary.

    Moderate Republican is to Mainstream Republican as Franco is to Mussolini.

    .

  68. 68
    JGabriel says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Yes. Yellow peril, brown peril—peril, peril, peril. Be skeered.

    It’s perhaps instructive to recall that an alternate term for Yellow Peril was Yellow Terror.

    .

  69. 69
    jwest says:

    “I’m guessing MI is a lock for Obama and Stabenow this year, and there’s a chance to win back a seat or two in the House.” Don K – February 6, 2012 | 9:59 am

    After Obama bailed out GM and Chrysler, Snyder ran against the hand-picked candidate of the UAW who ran a campaign touting his close agreement with the President. This helped him only lose by 19 points.

    Stabenow will probably match those results.

  70. 70
    handsmile says:

    @Elizabelle: (#64)

    It’s Democratic incumbent Senator Debbie Stabenow who now polls with a 6-point lead over the racist Hoekstra.

    The ad to wait for is one in which swarthy men in robes and turbans are seen smoking hookahs in a casbah cafe, grinning conspiratorially at images of Barack Hussein Obama and Stabenow in a burqua.

    As ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (ah, irony!), Hoekstra was among the most strident anti-Islam, anti-Arab GOP demagogues.

  71. 71
    Woodrowfan says:

    Yeah, in Virginia we had Bob McDonnell, graduate of Pat Robertson’s university, run as a moderate Republican.

    Yeah, and compared to some of the others, he was. goodgodalmighty.

    Moderate Republican=Steps Over the Homeless, Not On Them

  72. 72
    Xenos says:

    @Steve:

    Among this crowd, every single Republican is an extremist whacko, so it’s pointless to have a debate.

    Yes. And your point is, what?

  73. 73
    Elizabelle says:

    @handsmile:

    My bad. Thanks for the correction. (Coffee not working yet…)

  74. 74
    jwest says:

    It’s Democratic incumbent Senator Debbie Stabenow who now polls with a 6-point lead over the racist Hoekstra. handsmile – February 6, 2012 | 10:21 am

    Actually, in the November poll this refers to, 25% of those polled had never heard of Hoekstra. Only 1% hadn’t heard of Stabenow, so everyone in Michigan basically knows of her.

    The main number in that poll indicated that 41% had a positive view of Stabenow, while 52% held a negative view. Based on averages 1 year out from elections, incumbents with that large of a spread tend to lose by more than 6 points.

  75. 75
    Elizabelle says:

    @Woodrowfan:

    Gonna be fun to see what the Virginia legislature attempts this year. Hubris, hubris, with what? — a one vote margin?

    They could be a great aid to helping keep Virginia purple. Or blue, even.

  76. 76
    Tonybrown74 says:

    Wow …

    Young asian woman wearing a straw hat riding a bicycle through a rice paddy speaking in pigeon english.

    Can we dispense with all the pleasantries and semantics and call these people racists NOW?

  77. 77
    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Steve:

    Among this crowd, every single Republican is an extremist whacko, so it’s pointless to have a debate.

    FTFY

    I’m not writing to make conservatives happy. I want them to hate my opinions. I’m not interested in debating them.

    I want to stop them.

    -Steve Gilliard

    (I just realized that FTFY is a double entendre in this context.)

  78. 78
    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @Tokyokie: I guess his next commercial, will be the replay of the infamous racist Janice Hahn, Give me your cash B—h Ad.

  79. 79
    jwest says:

    @Tonybrown74:

    I’ve got to agree.

    Hoekstra was pretty blatant on this one. Using a young asian woman wearing a straw hat riding a bicycle through a rice paddy while trying to portray a young asian woman wearing a straw hat riding a bicycle through a rice paddy is totally racist. What’s next? Minstrels in blackface?

    But, then again, we’ve got to think long and hard about calling republicans racists. If we do it too much, it might lose some of its dramatic impact.

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    RalfW says:

    @magurakurin:

    I’m guessing he’s written off the Chinese-American vote altogether. Christ, what a dick.

    In 2010 Michigan was only 2.4% Asian, and that includes Indians and other Indian-subcontinent neighbors.

    But I think his ad will piss off more than just the Chinese. And I think it should be played to Asian voters across the US as a tasty sample of how the GOP treats basically anyone who isn’t white: a tokenized, 50’s Hollywood joke used to make white voters scared.

    I’m pretty shocked at the naked racism. They really, really don’t get that America is already demographically changed forever. Just wow, so insular and white-privileged.

  81. 81
    handsmile says:

    @jwest: (#74)

    Your comment prompted me to examine the linked pdf file on the November 2011 EPIC/MRA poll.

    Hoekstra’s name appears only on one question (#25): “If the election for US Senate were held today, would you vote for Hoekstra…or Stabenow….” On that question, as I wrote, Stabenow compiled a 6-point lead and her support has steadily increased since February 2011.

    The question on name recognition appears nowhere on that poll, nor is there any question I could find on “Positive/Negative” views. Moreover, I am skeptical that 25% of Michigan resident poll-takers had never heard of a man who had served for 19 years in the US House (1993-2011), had held prominent committee roles there, and who had run a gubernatorial campaign, albeit unsuccessful, in 2010.

    http://www.epicmra.com/press/S.....a_Freq.pdf

    Could you please provide verifiable info or links to support your contention?

  82. 82
    Mnemosyne says:

    Why is everyone piling on Steve? I’m not getting what it is he said that was so horrible.

    The election of the present governor had more to do with his centrist campaign and perceptions of the outgoing Democratic governor than with some shift of the electorate to the far right.

    Unfortunately, I guess at this point some people only want to hear that voters went Republican in 2010 because they knew exactly what the Republicans would do. I’m still of the opinion that voters were stupid enough to believe Republican campaigns that pinky-swore they would totally be moderate.

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    OzoneR says:

    @Steve:

    Michigan’s governor is not a right wing nut job, and he ran a very centrist campaign

    and is governing as a right wing nut job

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @jwest:

    You’re conflating favorable/unfavorable ratings with positive/negative job ratings. Of course, I’m not surprised that you would do that, since you’ve never been honest about anything since you started polluting these threads with your idiocy.

    Stabenow’s favorable rating is 47%. Hoekstra’s is 26%. As usual, you lied about what the poll you pointed to says.

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    Woodrowfan says:

    I hope that young actress got paid well. What’s Chinese for Steppin Fechit??

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    jwest says:

    Correction: In the November poll, 23% did not recognize Hoekstra’s name – not 25%.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Mnemosyne: Forget it Mnem. He’s got nothin’ and he knows it.

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    jwest says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I know it’s uncomfortable when Mistermix has you bent over to blow a little sunshine up your ass and then the cold wind of reality comes up, but for your own good, you need to start accepting the inevitable.

  90. 90
    Yutsano says:

    @jwest: Lovely comment. Gonna try selling us on the inevitability of Mittens next?

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    Jenn says:

    Wow, impressive pile-on. For the record, there still are moderate Republicans at state and local levels. I’m totally on board with bashing the national level folks, as they are all either whackaloons or moral cowards, but there are plenty of folks in the lower echelons who are pushing back against the crazies. Not enough, obviously, but they’re there – but they don’t get much media time, and sure don’t make it to the national news much. I want a sane GOP – can we focus our ire on the sociopaths and whackaloons, rather than the merely misguided?

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    handsmile says:

    @jwest:

    Thank you for providing a link to an article by a local television station (ABC affiliate WXYZ) on the November 2011 EPIC/MRA poll. The questions and figures cited there and by you appear nowhere in EPIC’s published poll results nor does the article link to that information. Such discrepancies suggest that this is hardly verifiable or reliable information.

  93. 93
    Kiril says:

    I saw this on Videogum, an entertainment blog:

    “Debbie Spenditnow.” Good one, Pete Don’tspenditnow. (What’s going on there? They have the same name basically? Good job. Good stuff. Vote twice.) My favorite part of the ad is probably the Hoekstra campaign’s explanation of the ad:

    The Hoekstra campaign called the advertisement “satirical” and explained the broken English in the video as a reflection of China’s increasingly competitive education system.

    “You have a Chinese girl speaking English – I want to hit on the education system, essentially. The fact that a Chinese girl is speaking English is a testament to how they can compete with us, when an American boy of the same age speaking Mandarin is absolutely insane, or unthinkable right now,” Hoekstra spokesperson Paul Ciaramitaro told POLITICO. “It exhibits another way in which China is competing with us globally.”

    AHHHHHHHH. HAHAHAHAHA. AHHHHHHHH. Yeah, no, totally. VERY satirical. VERY good exploration of the issue of EDUCATION. Everyone’s first reaction is going to be how smart this young woman is, and what a potential leader for China’s bright and competitive future. (And don’t even get me started on how ABSOLUTELY INSANE the idea of an American *cough*WHITE*cough* boy speaking Mandarin is. No, this ad is perfect.) The Hoekstra campaign doesn’t even need to rest its case because everyone is just like SUSTAINED. WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH

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    jwest says:

    @handsmile:

    Handsmile,

    The information is in the pdf you linked to. For the “Do Not Recognize” number for Stabenow and Hoekstra, go to Page 3 and follow the Do Not Recog column down from the top. On the first row, you will see “Debbie Stabenow” 1%. The next name down is “Pete Hoekstra” 23%.

    For job approval, see page 6. Question 20 is about Debbie Stabenow. 41% positive, 52% negative.

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    FuriousPhil says:

    Baffling was my first reaction. It’s worth noting that we have yet to hold the primary run-off and Hokey’s going to probably win that, since the other Repub candidates have zero name recognition. Still, going out of the gate with what seems like xenophobic nonsense (this was Hokey’s $75K big splash) seems pretty ill-advised – especially given that Sen. Stabenow is a pretty sharp critic of Chinese trade policies.

    Obama’s probably a lock here, carrying the big auto industry dependent metro areas, so hopefully Debbie gets to ride the coat tails a bit. Outside our mini bible belt area on the west side of the state, Hoekstra isn’t well-liked. He tried to ride the Bagger wave in the governor race and lost out to the ‘moderate’ Snyder. He’s our mean old white man equivalent of Bachmann.

  96. 96
    daverave says:

    Wait a minute, it sure looks like Hoekstra had this campaign ad outsourced/offshored to someplace that looks nothing like Michigan. Amirite? How about keeping the cash for that production on American soil? Unless you’re basically…. a racist.

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    FuriousPhil says:

    @daverave:

    It was filmed in California. Which is sort of ironic, given that Gov. Toughnerd wants to axe the film production credits and tax breaks in Michigan.

    If you’re going to produce offensive political ads, at least do it here in Michigan.

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    jwest says:

    @handsmile:

    As it appears you may be new to reading polls, don’t feel bad. It takes some time to get used to the formats and to know what to look for.

    For an additional insight into a poll like this, notice that it was a survey of 600 adults. Polling “adults” is the lowest cost poll of this type and will give the pollsters the most favorable outcome for democrats. As those who are surveyed are narrowed to “registered voters” and then finally to “likely voters”, the costs increase and percentages favorable to democrats decreases.

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    Woodrowfan says:

    in the follow-up ad the same girl promises “Pete luv you longtime!”

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    pseudonymous in nc says:

    @Tokyokie:

    Nice move having the actress (who looks Thai to me, not Chinese) speak in a fake Chinese accent.

    I don’t know whether I’d prefer to think that Hoekstra’s ad-team was told to fuck off by all the Chinese-Americans they asked to do it, or that they hired that actress on the basis that all Asians look the same / the audience won’t know the difference.

    What a fucking piece of shit.

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    Thoughtcrime says:

    @Woodrowfan:

    Next Full Mental Wingnut campaign ad:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12tce-THLUE

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    handsmile says:

    JWest:

    It would be dishonorable not to concede my errors in reviewing the EPIC/MRA poll results as you indicated. Looking for a single separate question on the issue, I missed entirely the column “Do Not Recog” that appears on the poll’s questions 5-17. Also, I failed to see question #9 on Hoekstra. As to question #20, I read it as one on job approval (as you referred to it in your #94 comment) not on “positive/negative views” (your #74 comment), which usually connotes favorability.

    I have read polls and poll results for many years (evidently here incorrectly) and need no lessons from someone childish enough twice to write “democrats.” While Democrats will struggle this year to retain their Senate majority, Stabenow’s seat is not one in jeopardy.

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    Michigan’s governor is not a right wing nut job, and he ran a very centrist campaign. Of course there are those who believe every Republican is an extremist, but I don’t really feel like arguing with them.

    Just to throw out another possbility: I won’t vote for any Republican, for any reason, at this time. It’s not that I believe that *every single one* is an extremist, but they’re all supporting extremists, and you can’t trust ’em to do their job as they campaigned. Walker proved that.

    Now, you might say “But ‘weirdo, how is anyone going to change the party from within if you don’t help elect the moderates on the Republican side when they’re running against, say, a Democratic tool?”

    And my answer to that is, no one’s going to change the party from within at this point. Its only hope is complete collapse.

    I really wish they’d nominate Newt. And I really wish Obama would say “Three hour debates? Cool.” And, when Newt left the hall starving (because Obama ate his lunch) and looking for a proctologist (because he got his ass handed to him), and went on to lose “all 57 states” – boy, didn’t that sound funny when he said it to himself in the mirror, and didn’t it *flop* during the debate – then, people might realize that, damn, the brand is ruined, time to rebuild.

    Instead, they’ll nominate Romney, he’ll lose, and they’ll decide they didn’t nominate Newt, and that was the big problem.

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    something fabulous says:

    @jwest: Yes, yes indeed. Because it was so key to the point of Our Jobs being taken by China that the spokesperson should be performing one of those key lost American jobs while she speaks about it: riding a bike through a paddy while wearing a cunning little hat. No racist tropes being employed here! Move along!

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @jwest:

    I know it’s uncomfortable when Mistermix has you bent over to blow a little sunshine up your ass and then the cold wind of reality comes up, but for your own good, you need to start accepting the inevitable.

    So you’re not even going to address the fact that you took Hoekstra’s recognition number and Stabenow’s job approval ratings and pretended that both numbers were measuring the same thing?

    As always, the “stupid or lying” question comes up. Given your history, I have to opt for “lying” once again, because I really find it hard to believe that someone who’s capable of turning on a computer can insist that we should compare Hoekstra’s name recognition with Stabenow’s job approval ratings.

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    Hoekstra’s got absolutely no pull in metro Detroit. Gary Snyder appealed to the recently converted conservaDems in Oakland and Macomb Counties by running as Milliken moderate. It’s the Hoekstras of the GOP who pushed those voters into the Democratic sphere in the first place.

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    That said, A West Michigan Republican like the recently retired Congressman Vern Ehlers could do alright on the east side of the state- if they had an inkling of charisma. Appealing to the Dutch, Russ’ chicken and rice soup crowd in GR is a lot different than appealing to the more socially liberal crowd in Birmingham.

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    Death Panel Truck says:

    @Schlemizel:

    “They’re all your yellow race! They’re not exactly Chinks, but they’re definitely offshoots of the Chinks. They’re whaydda call, uh, Chinkish!”

    –Archie Bunker, 1972

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    Ruckus says:

    @Steve:
    Name any rethug running or elected at this point who is a centrist by their own actions. That’s any, anywhere. Fed, state, local.
    I don’t care what bullshit comes out of their mouth, I care about what they mean and what they do.
    Find me one and I’ll apologize to them, find me 5 and I’ll think about eating my socks.
    Don’t strain your self doing all that heavy lifting.

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    Death Panel Truck says:

    If you click through to watch it on YouTube, you’ll see that comments have been disabled. Gee…I wonder why that is?

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    chrome agnomen says:

    @Elizabelle:

    didn’t help that creigh deeds practically ran as a moderate republican himself.

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