Whether you believe that the Republicans will self-destruct in November or not, the Birther component of the anti-Obama campaign will never, never end unless the people who continue to spew this nonsense are actually made to pay a price.
A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and can’t be president.
It’s one of many such lawsuits that have been filed across the country, so far without success. A Georgia resident made the complaint, which is intended to keep Obama’s name off the state’s ballot in the March presidential primary.
An Obama campaign aide says any attempt to involve the president personally will fail and such complaints around the country have no merit.
The hearing is set for Thursday before an administrative judge. Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi on Friday denied a motion by the president’s lawyer to quash a subpoena that requires Obama to show up.
If the President shows up, every other state GOP machine will file similar complaints with friendly judges and he’ll have to show up there as well. If the President ignores the complaints, it will “prove he has something to hide” and feed the nasty e-mail whisper campaign that basically hasn’t stopped since early 2008. The sinister point of all this is not to prove or disprove anything, but to so demoralize voters that they’ll entertain the notion that if the Republicans win, all this idiocy will go away and that the GOP will behave themselves again.
It’s complete bullshit, of course. All of it. The idiocy was always there and surrender by the electorate is the only way the GOP wins with their current field of cartoon villain mouth-breathing doucheknockers. But that’s the point: no matter how many times the President personally staples his birth certificate to people’s foreheads, they’ll never believe him. Jesus Christ could descend from the sky with John Wayne’s pet T-Rex that’s piloting the Millennium Falcon, during halftime at the Super Bowl, grab the mic while Sam Elliott hands him his own mustache and say “You guys, he was born in Hawaii, knock this crap off already” and they would wonder how POTUS managed to brainwash America and the world into seeing such a perfect simultaneous mass hallucination. They would in fact blame fluoridated water. I shit you not.
Almost enough to drive a guy to drink.
S. cerevisiae
Almost?
West of the Cascades
What will happen is that the President’s lawyers will eventually get an appellate court (hopefully a Georgia court, but a federal court if necessary) to quash this subpoena, and this will fade away again. At some point in the judicial system, sanity is (nearly) certain to come into play. The Georgia Supreme Court was quite liberal until a few years ago, and (I hope) will still recognize this as nonsense and an unreasonable intrusion on the President.
Triassic Sands
Judges are supposed to be able to recognize cases without merit. Evidently, in Georgia, an IQ below 50 is perfectly acceptable for the bench.
If Georgia has impeachment or recall of judges, this judge should be a prime candidate — but we’re talking about Georgia here, so the Judge will probably receive the CSA Medal of Freedom Through Slavery.
gbear
Huckabee is still spewing that birther shit too. (Via C&L)
If it’s come to this, they got nuthin’…
MikeJ
@West of the Cascades: The Supreme Court ruled that Paula Jones could depose Clinton. Expect the birthers to keep appealing until fat Tony gets to write an opinion.
Beth in VA
I really hope West of the Cascades (2.above) is right, because this crap is seriously screwed up. Makes me mad and embarassed for our country for these racist ( and the northers are clearly racist) idiots to get the time of day from the judicial system.
SFAW
I would guess that she, at least, had standing. Not sure that the birthers do. (Which is my way of asking burns or Omnes to chime in.)
JoyceH
@MikeJ:
And I recall they (the Supremes) claimed at the time that requiring the President to respond to a private lawsuit ought to impose no hardship on him or his ability to do his job.
Orly Taitz is the bastard stepchild of Paula Jones.
Yevgraf
I’m toying with filing bar/judicial complaints on His Wingnut Honor, just so he gets a taste of what happens when somebody from far off and unknown to you starts fucking with your career.
Roger Moore
@Triassic Sands:
This is the kind of thing that happens with elected judges. Judges wind up caring more about what the public wants them to rule than what the law says. Recall isn’t a serious threat; the judges are making these rulings specifically with public opinion in mind.
David Koch
The President should show up, just to create a backlash from the spectacle.
It would be on the level of the Teri Schavio backlash.
Ben Cisco
Brilliant!
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
I went off and read about this mess on Friday. What seems to have happened is that when the case was filed in Atlanta, the local government attorney said something to the affect that the president doesn’t have to show up for anything, and the judge said, “prove it.” The hearing on Thursday is to show that this is the case. More here, at a site that seems to be devoted to watching birthers flail.
MattF
@gbear: That Huckabee line is a reminder of how crazy the wingers are. Either Huck is cynically trolling for a constituency in the 27% or he’s just as crazy as they are. Not a choice that gives me a warm feeling.
johnsmith1882
ni$$er ni$$er ni$$er ni$$er. and in conclusion, ni$$er. i almost hope noot gets the nomination so we can ratchet the spectacle up to eleven. either way, the not-even-veiled racism this campaign is going to be the stuff of legend.
Keith G
Hopefully, ignoring these shitheads will rob them of the attention that they seek.
I am curious…
What do you have in mind?
Pongo
So, since he has provided his birth certificate already, can he counter-sue for malicious prosecution or something? This has gone way beyond stupid at this point and maybe some pain in the pocketbook is the only way to stop it.
Ben Cisco
@David Koch: I’m about ready to agree.
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In fact, why not a traveling road show, set up to refute, expose, and ridicule the NeoConfederates. Completely humiliate them (and by extension, the “heavyweights” in the GOP that wink at this crap). Pound on them until the words “Republican”, “Tea Partier”, and “conservative” are all synonymous with “fool” to everyone with a non-drooling intellect in the US.
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And hope we’re not outnumbered at that point.
Canuckistani Tom
OT, but related
Am I misremembering, or did some states create birther laws that you have to prove your citizenship before you get on the ballot?
If so, having seen the fubar that is the Virginia primary, does anyone else wonder if the republicans will forget to file their paperwork?
Roger Moore
@Keith G:
Having to pay court costs for filing a frivolous lawsuit would be a nice start. Debarment for Taitz would be even better.
Darius
I agree completely.
Benjamin Franklin
The GOP is paying the price. Witness the SC primary.
ericblair
@Roger Moore:
That’s one of the things that struck me moving from Canada to the US as a wet-behind-the-ears proto-adult. Of course Canadians are immersed in US news from the cradle, but a few things stick out when you’re actually here. One is ads for hospitals on the TV and billboards. Another is the idea of elected judges, where you figure right away that they’ll be playing to the peanut gallery. And the third is election officers being members of one of the political parties: that was a real head-scratcher.
Of course the birthers won’t stop this shit, because this is their equivalent of a biological rejection reaction.
Warren Terra
@Canuckistani Tom:
The one that comes to mind is AZ, where the governor – no stranger to wingerism herself – blocked the law as being too much of a public embarrassment.
The Other Chuck
My guess is that the White House lawyer files an amended motion that will be roughly novel-length, with every last reason to quash, up to and including a copy of the nirth certificate in question, and then call for sanctions on Orly. The former will be granted by any judge that imagines he has a career in the judiciary, the latter is still a toss-up.
g
I’m just curious, if the President were to show up at the hearing, what do they want from him? He can’t very well testify about his own birth.
Linnaeus
I’m so tired of these fucking fascists. Yes, I know that’s a word that’s been diluted by overuse, but it’s hard for me not to apply it to these birthers.
The Other Chuck
The president will not show up. He is not at the beck and call of every goddam lunatic who can file a brief.
PaulW
So, wait… Sam Elliot’s mustache has seen the long-form birf certificate?
Maxwel
Time for a drone to fly thru the judge’s window.
Jody
Yessir. Peak wingnut. No such thing.
Mike in NC
Would love to see this topic become the #1 point of outrage at the next GOP debate. Newt, Mitt, Lil Rick & Ronpaul could take turns demanding to see the Long Form Birth Certificate, thus blowing away what little credibility these cretins ever had.
General Stuck
While this garbage is annoying as all hell, I think it serves a demented, but useful purpose. Think of it as a pressure valve for the crazies to keep busy, where they might boll up and pop like a ass boil, into violence of some kind.
Though the birth certificate nonsense is extra ugly because it goes to the very root of white supremacy, imo. At least in governing the nation. These folks never agreed with the former Africans they stole becoming equal citizens in THEIR country, and they sure as hell didn’t agree to let one grow up to be president.
This is minor distractions, compared to when Obama is reelected, and possibly with long coat tails for the dem down ticket. Then the fever will spike to all kinds of even crazier shit. In and out of government. It will be the turning point to where the status quo becomes a multi cultural America, instead of that promise kept at arms length for polite debate. Right now, the Obama presidency can be thought of as a hiccup, or fluke of nature by the nativists, something to endure until things get back to normal. Which is white at the top.
AliceBlue
Not only was Orly Taitz sanctioned and fined by another Georgia judge, she isn’t even a member of the Georgia bar. I have no idea how she can keep filing these things.
Villago Delenda Est
@g:
I’m just curious, if the President were to show up at the hearing, what do they want from him? He can’t very well testify about his own birth.
Details, details.
He’s already provided all the proof anyone can provide, and beyond it.
There is nothing, ever, that will satisfy racist shitstains like the Taitz bint. The fact that he’s got a D behind his name indicates he’s an usurper. His high melanin count is only an aggravation of the basic problem they have with him.
West of the Cascades
@g: well, David Copperfield did …
To begin my life with the beginning of my life, I record that I was born (as I have been informed and believe) on a Friday, at twelve o’clock at night.
Clinton v. Jones was a fairly narrow holding that the President did not have immunity from civil law suits — President Clinton had been seeking a broad immunity (which the federal district court judge did grant).
I doubt that President Obama’s lawyers would be claiming such immunity from appearing at the hearing here.
In fact, the President’s lawyers did file a motion to quash – the order denying it indicates that they didn’t do a particularly thorough job of briefing it: http://www.scribd.com/doc/78887509/Georgia-Farrar-v-Obama-Order-on-Motion-to-Quash-Subpoena-by-Attorney-Taitz
The tail end of that order sets out the standard for quashing a subpoena. There is ample authority that asking the head of a government agency (or the head of a corporation) to appear in court at a preliminary hearing in a civil case (and THIS is just a fucking state administrative hearing!!) IS “unreasonable or oppressive,” and that where a case can be shown to be meritless in preliminary filings the testimony is “unnecessary.”
My guess is that the next step for the President’s lawyers is to ask for a delay of the hearing (showing good cause, e.g. “running the country that day, so sorry”) and then file a motion for reconsideration that DOES cite all the relevant precedent. Then this very same judge who denied the motion to quash will grant an order quashing the motion. And this will go away quietly.
Legalize
I’d expect a Brandeis Brief on the motion to quash, followed 2 seconds later by a Rule 11 Motion. As much as it would be entertaining to see a Counterclaim for abuse of process or something like it, it would be a stupid thing to do – a fight on the merits with a bottom feeder like Oily Taints is not what any of us want.
TenguPhule
Public executions are a good start.
Warren Terra
@g:
Obviously, they want him to show his belly button in court. How else are we to know he was born?
Emerald
@General Stuck:
Yeah, for now.
When Obama wipes their asses from the electoral map, however, I fully expect their reaction to be violence.
We are in a cold civil war right now, and with the same jokers that fought the last one.
When they lose again, they’re going to explode.
Hal
@gbear:
Christ, what is it with the fucking college transcripts?! Who the hell cares what Obama’s grades were in college. You might as well ask for his junior high transcripts.
PS, Mike Huckabee was one of the “sane” GOP candidates, right?
AliceBlue
@efgoldman:
1) I believe it was Federal court.
2) According to the story I read about a week ago, (don’t remember where) Orly Taitz is counsel of record.
Gust Avrakotos
Oh shut the fuck up with your water is wet, sky is blue, sun rises in the east, birthers are still birthers crap. That is so 2010.
Professor
Who is bearing the costs of these birther court cases? Is it the president personally or the USA. If it is the president bearing the cost, can he ask the plaintiff for legal cost reimbursement?
Villago Delenda Est
@Warren Terra:
There are photographs (no doubt retouched by the Elders of Zion) of Obama topless, in which a navel can be seen.
However, I’d insist that we see Romney topless as well, and then we can see the welding seams on the torso of the ‘bot.
SFAW
I don’t recall ever hearing that, frankly. He was just less-obviously-nuts, i.e. still nuts, just less obvious about it.
Unabogie
@Hal:
It’s a wink to the birthers. If President Obama was really a foreigner who renounced his citizenship when he converted to Black Liberation Islamic Secular Alinskyism, then this proves he isn’t eligible to be the head guy.
It isn’t the grades, it’s about some sort of loans as a foreigner.
You have to speak Teahadi.
Ben Cisco
@Hal:
They cannot believe a great many things about this Obama.
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They cannot believe that, on his own, he earned his grades.
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They cannot believe that, on his own, he is in any way whatsoever an educated man.
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They cannot believe that, within the rules, he was elected to the office of POTUS.
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They cannot believe these things, because if they do, it invalidates everything they have been told, and believed, about themselves for GENERATIONS.
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His very EXISTENCE nullifies theirs, and the only way they can rationalize it is if he is somehow inauthentic.
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That is why the birther nonsense will continue.
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That is why they gleefully embrace with great hue and cry a man whose stench even they could not endure a short time ago.
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“Any handhold in a storm” is their motto, and they think they’ve grabbed a life preserver.
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In fact, it is an anchor.
Villago Delenda Est
@Unabogie:
Yeah, Huckleberry is ranting about Obama’s imaginary “foreign loans” that got him through school.
Now, frankly, I don’t think any university tracks precisely where the money came from to pay for tuition, or books, or any other bursar’s fees that were paid in the process of securing a degree. The important thing is that they were paid, source of little importance. You pay up…regardless of the source…and you are enrolled for the term, and at the end of the term, you get credit hours if you’ve passed the courses against the total credit hours needed for the degree.
This of course is all irrelevant to the true reason to bring this up, to pander to the drooling racist lower life forms that constitute the GOP base.
dmbeaster
@efgoldman: I don’t know the status of her payment of the sanction, but I can promise you that if she does not pay it, she will be disciplined by the California State Bar. Heck, there may already be a proceeding underway, which are confidential until resolved.
dmbeaster
Its not “foreign loans”, but the claim that he obtained loans by stating that he was an Indonesian citizen, or some such theory. It has to do with what he stated as his citizenship on the college loan application, and some theory that he allegedly did not indicate US citizenship.
waldo
If it gets to that point, there’s no reason state Dems couldn’t make the GOP nominee jump through the same hoops. I mean, you could make an equally strong case that Romney’s actually a Mexican or that Newt is a space alien from a distant and terrifying planet.
Roger Moore
@Hal:
They want to prove that he only got where he is by affirmative action. If he had bad grades* in college then they can argue he didn’t deserve to get into Harvard Law. If he had bad grades* in law school, then he didnt really deserve to head the law review. They just want to prove that he caught a break sometime because they think it will somehow mean anything he’s done since then is invalid and he isn’t qualified to be President.
*Where the wingers will define whatever grades he got as bad.
dmsilev
If Obama does feel obliged to show up for one of these nonsense hearings, I hope he does so with Bruce Fucking Springsteen in tow, the latter doing nothing except playing the chorus refrain from ‘Born in the USA’ over and over again.
rikyrah
@Ben Cisco:
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TELL IT
TELL IT
Villago Delenda Est
@waldo:
I can’t think of one he might be from in the Star Trek universe, for example, that is a perfect fit. Perhaps a Tellarite? “Tellarites do not argue for any reason; they simply argue.”
rikyrah
@Roger Moore:
He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law.
Benjamin Franklin
@Villago Delenda Est:
More of a Ferengi.
Warren Terra
@Villago Delenda Est:
Newt is obviously from Raxacoricofallapatorius
Villago Delenda Est
@dmbeaster:
Ah. OK. Yet, how would the records of any financial aid he received be reflected in his transcripts? Are they on a general fishing expedition for any records on him that may exist? They’re only going to be frustrated even if the papers are released, this guy is so squeaky clean it’s painful to hear the squeaks.
wrb
@Roger Moore:
And that at sometime he took a course named something like “Marxism in Latin American Revolution”
Roger Moore
@rikyrah:
If he didn’t graduate Summa, he didn’t deserve to edit the law review./wingnut
dogwood
@Villago Delenda Est:
I suspect the mouthbreathers want the transcripts because they think the President is dumb. I suspect the savvy Republicans want the transcripts so they can go over the courses he took with a fine tooth comb and find all the subversive left-wing commie curriculum shit.
Villago Delenda Est
@Benjamin Franklin:
Nah, Newt’s no Ferengi. While he’s unquestionably a grifter, he’s willing to smear his opponents as greedy unprincipled bastards, and no Ferengi would do that…they would, in fact, admire such behavior.
He doesn’t have the lobes to be a Ferengi.
wrb
@wrb:
The abbreviated course names printed by the computers of the time resulted in my transcripts featuring a course titled “Mediterranean Sex”
The name of the course was something like “Sex and
Power Relations in Traditional Mediterranean Agrarian Societies”
Villago Delenda Est
@dogwood:
HST 307 “Why the Enlightenment was Cool”
ECON 412 “Smith and Marx: Birds of a Feather?”
SOC 245 “Lighter Brown/Darker Brown and late 20th Century American Mating Rituals”
POLYSCI 435 “How to fake your own birth to run for President”
PRELAW 268 “Making Your Opponent Look Ridiculous”
Roger Moore
@Warren Terra:
Now that you mention it, he does seem to match their known features so well it’s almost scary. It certainly seems at least as plausible as the birthers’ theories about Obama.
Ben Cisco
@Villago Delenda Est: The ultimate insult. Nicely done.
Shawn in ShowMe
We KNOW Bush was a C student, yet that proves nothing about his intelligence. Everyone knows that guy was born to lead. Us off a cliff.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Villago Delenda Est:
Fix’t that fer ya. ;)
dogwood
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yeah, you know exactly what they’re looking for. They’ve got a problem if they want to rewind the Ayers, Alinsky tapes. They know it wasn’t very effective the last time. They need new evidence of subversive behavior.
Roger Moore
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
I doubt he’s using anything that old fashioned. He’s got a quarter of a billion dollars, so he’s got to be using something a bit more modern, like USB 3 or Firewire 800.
JGabriel
@Ben Cisco:
Exactly. Some libtard commie must have taught him.
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JGabriel
@dmsilev:
They really ought to play that for Obama’s entrance cue at the Democratic convention.
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Ella in New Mexico
@AliceBlue:
Which is why there must be nothing to stop me from marching down to my county Magistrate Court–where our judges are unhampered by messy things like legal degrees or bar membership–and filing a lawsuit against Newt Gingrich for sexual abuse.
It was HIM who forced me to have to visualize his voracious sexual appetite and subsequent carnal activity with Callista outside of marriage. The images are jammed into my psyche every time I see him or her on stage at a political rally, causing me nausea, sometimes vomiting, and a need to take a shot of Vodka to calm my nerves. I’m planning on asking for civil and criminal penalties.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Ben Cisco:
I hesitated in the fixting of your excellent points but it has to be said.
Because he is black and he is better than them.
NCSteve
Not a real judge, incidentally. An administrative law judge. A state administrative law judge. The lowest form of legal life entitled to call itself a “judge.”
Not clear to me whether he’s actually ordered the president to show up at a hearing or just demanding authority showing why the president has the power to flout this guy’s miniscule authority.
West of the Cascades
@NCSteve: “You Will Respect Mah Authoritah!”
NCSteve
Nope, just read his order. Little dipshit is actually claiming birther attorneys have the power to order POTUS to appear in the broom closet he calls a court room and he won’t stop them.
And why not? It’s not like the n****r is a real president or anything.
kay
I love that birthers combined with media have made a birth record so ridiculously complicated.
It is surreal.
It has absolutely nothing to do with real life, where people use birth records all the time, probably thousands of times a day, all over the country.
I cannot wait for the history of Obama’s presidency, after his second term.
Everyone involved in this in any way should be forever known as an absolute idiot.
State birth records aren’t mysterious. They’re not arbitrary and unknowable.
This is mundane, ordinary stuff.
This belongs in the history. People need to read this in 50 years and just marvel at how crazy it got.
PIGL
I for one would be sorely tempted to use some of my unlimited executive power as regards disappearances, indefinite detention without habeus corpus, and, hey, what the heck, torture.
barry
@General Stuck:
“While this garbage is annoying as all hell, I think it serves a demented, but useful purpose. Think of it as a pressure valve for the crazies to keep busy, where they might boll up and pop like a ass boil, into violence of some kind.”
That’s playing into their hands – allowing them some right to make trouble and threats. If they want to do something, then let them do something. I have no problem with executing as many of them who wish to turn to treason.
tkogrumpy
@David Koch: He should not only show up, he should show up in an orange jump suit leg irons and handcuffs.
Sapient
@kay: kay, I hope that’s true. My nightmare is that this society is so corrupt that some ersatz history will be written. They’ve tried it before, and who knows how many times it’s succeeded.
Sapient
@kay: kay, I hope that’s true. My nightmare is that this society is so corrupt that some ersatz history will be written. They’ve tried it before, and who knows how many times it’s succeeded.
Ben Cisco
@Odie Hugh Manatee: I took it to be implied; perhaps because his experience mirrors (in MACRO scale) my own. Your way is pleasing to me as well.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@PIGL:
You forgot drone strikes. ;)
From what I have read, the judge ruled this way because the counsel for the President delivered a sloppy response to the suit. Other legal beagles online have agreed and say that they think the judge is making sure that every t is crossed and every i is dotted before excusing the President and dismissing the suit.
If he’s an elected judge and truly impartial then you can bet he would be doing this to save his career. If so, he’s probably relieved that he is able to make this move because it gives the birthers some false hope before he has to rule that the complaint is bullshit and Oily Taint is a smear on our society.
Ok, I wish he would state the latter part of the above but I know he won’t. Wishes…
I’ll reserve judgment on the judge (insert Tweety “HA!” here) until there are further developments. No need for any reservations on judging the birthers though, absolutely none.
There are no excuses for racists. None.
Steve in the ATL
@west of the cascades: I must disagree with your statement that the Georgia supreme court was liberal until recently. It has been pretty far right in the 20 years I’ve been a lawyer here, though it is more liberal than it was in the 1860’s (if you’ve never experienced racism, check out some of those opinions!).
I’m surprised that the president’s brief wasn’t better written. Jablonski is a sharp guy.
Mike in NC
@Warren Terra:
“The Slitheen are a ruthless criminal sect whose main motivation is profit.”
Point taken.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Ben Cisco:
Thanks and thank you for your excellent points. I think we’re long past the need for implying anything about them and their motives. They sure as hell aren’t and IMO we need to fight fire with fire. Or as they say, to call a spade a spade.
They’re digging their own hole with that spade and I would be more than happy to cover it up and salt the ground when they are done.
I’d piss on it for good measure too. Also.
Ubetcha. :)
Ed Drone
@Villago Delenda Est:
The whole “financial aid as a foreign student” comes from an APRIL FOOLS JOKE on, I think ABC TV. Hell, it might even have been the Onion, for all I know, and Huckabee fell for it!
And why are we not using the “John Birth Society” appellation first posted here on BJ? I always liked that label.
Ed
ellennelle
@Villago Delenda Est:
actually, universities do keep track of funding. no funding institution gives out the monies directly to students, unless they are special awards or scholarships, but then most of the latter at least still go directly to the universities.
consider what it would mean otherwise: 18 year old scholarship or grant recipients being given thousands – sometimes tens of thousands – in cash? nope, these have to go directly to the institution. same with loans; banks won’t give out that kind of money to an individual for education any more than they’ll give out a home loan directly to the buyer; it goes directly to the sale. with good reason.
Villago Delenda Est
@ellennelle:
Yeah, but would any of that information be contained on his transcripts?
I can see a separate file for the student marked “financial aid and loans”, but this still smacks of a fishing expedition to find something, anything in his academic record they can use to smear him.
Then again, as Ed Drone informs us, this all started with a joke that the disgusting godbothered asswipe Huckleberry took seriously.
kay
Sapien, it would be great, though, as a documentary, don’t you think?
In ten years. I’d watch it in ten years.
They could interview this collection of fruitcakes, interspersed with the boring, routine state birth records process and documents.
A cautionary tale of a national nervous break down . How it started. Who fed it. All that.
Make them famous :)
Villago Delenda Est
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Pissing on it would enhance the grounding properties of the soil.
General Stuck
@barry:
I couldn’t imagine executing Oily Taitz. It would be like sending Tiny Tim to the gas chamber.
Citizen_X
Of course not. Don’t you people recognize a Vogon when you see one? What does he have to do, start reciting poetry (with all the mass casualties that would entail)?
Scott
@David Koch: It would be similar to when Oprah went to Amarillo when she was sued for defaming beef. It was a total circus and a total victory for Oprah.
Ben Cisco
@rikyrah: @JGabriel: @Odie Hugh Manatee: Thank you all. I expanded on this theme at my place.
kay
We have more than enough material to document the crazy already.
Images and clips from 2009 ALONE.
put those together and run it as a 2 hour piece.
Not a great legacy for conservatives to leave their children, I’ll tell you.
“Which one is grandma? why is she holding that Hitler sign?”
Mnemosyne
@Villago Delenda Est:
Their last multi-year, multi-million dollar fishing expedition eventually resulted in the impeachment they wanted, so why wouldn’t they try it again? Republicans are all about going back to their own vomit over and over and over again.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Villago Delenda Est:
True dat. In that case I would also connect a couple of high voltage leads to huge grounding rods and pump a couple million volts in to it just for good measure.
After zipping my pants up, of course.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@Villago Delenda Est:
That’s probably why Huckabee asked for his application as well as his transcripts.
Catsy
@David Koch:
I’ve been thinking along similar lines. Is there a significant downside to doing so, aside from the fact that it’s a waste of his valuable time in a meritless case?
It would be impossible to ignore–the media would not only have to cover it, they’d be falling over each other for the opportunity. It would put the birther issue front and center in the news for at least a few days, and force the GOP candidates to go on record about it at a point in the primaries where they’re all trying to out-wingnut each other to compete for the base’s love.
The issue itself is a winner for Obama–it’s overwhelmingly considered a fringe conspiracy theory about as credible as the “truthers”, and the truth is clearly and unambiguously documented.
Catsy
@Hal:
Think “affirmative action”.
Like I said earlier, they’ve drunk their own Kool-Aid. In the wingnut mind, Obama couldn’t have possibly gotten into college and gotten high grades on merit, so they think there must be something in his transcripts that will prove he got where he did because of affirmative action or special treatment.
Or what Ben Cisco said.
pseudonymous in nc
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Counsel for the Georgia Democratic Party, IIRC, who filed to dismiss based upon the fact that they run the primary, and argued a narrower point of law. More birfer amusement at the link, including one nutjob’s argument that Obama’s mother never existed.
El Cid
@dogwood: Yeah, Sean Hannity was bitching and moaning about how we don’t have Obama’s transcripts and college papers etc and who knows which Marxist Bill Ayers rhetoric he was spewing.
Villago Delenda Est
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
I used to tell my signal troops, who stuck grounding rods connected to their commo vans (mounted on vehicles with rubber tires, of course) into the ground nearby, to piss on the ground near it, but DON’T PISS ON THE GROUNDING ROD ITSELF. The result could be, erm, shocking in too hilarious in retrospect ways.
barry
@General Stuck: “I couldn’t imagine executing Oily Taitz. It would be like sending Tiny Tim to the gas chamber.”
When the annoying jester ceases to amuse, one executes the annoyance as an artistic comment to the other jesters.
grandpa john
@pseudonymous in nc: why was a response even necessary, the judge should have thrown this out with no response necessary because this shit has already been in courts in GA that have more standing than this court and has been found to have no validity. Evidently some local judge wanting his 15 minutes of fame.
Emma
@Citizen_X: That’s it! A Vogon! How did we miss it?
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yeppers, because electricity looks for the shortest and easiest path to ground.
That and urine haz electrolytes! ;)
That Other Mike
No, he hasn’t, and this proves why you shouldn’t trust the AP or any news outlet using it as a source. What happened was that some birther mouthbreather served the President with a subpoena to appear; the Pres’s local lawyer made a motion to quash the subpoena and botched it by not including legal cites for it. The judge denied the motion to quash (appropriately) because the lawyer was lazy. What will happen is that the lawyer will file an amended motion to quash, and the judge will accept it, and the Pres won’t be required to show.
Rome Again
@JoyceH:
Only if Paula Jones was Moravian.
eyelessgame
Newt Cartman.
I *like* it.
Rathskeller
@Villago Delenda Est: I went to Columbia at the same time as Obama. There was nothing that I recall on my transcripts concerning my extensive financial aid record. Bills you paid were itemized separately, which only makes sense.
I hate this dog-whistle bullshit. Obama is just fucking smarter than they are.
jefft452
@barry:
“I have no problem with executing as many of them who wish to turn to treason.”
The German ambassador told Wilson that he would never be able to declare war on Germany because we had millions of citizens of German decent who would rise up in revolt
Wilson replied that we also had millions of lampposts to hang them from
BDeevDad
Actually, this website has a good synopsis on why this is not an order to attend.
Dakota
That is hilarious!