Especially other Republicans:
The best argument for hoping Gingrich stays close in the race is the guy is just ruthless and will have no problem gutting any of the other candidates if he thinks it will be advantageous to him at that VERY minute.
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burnspbesq
I feel sorry for anyone who has an open short position in popcorn futures. The Republican primaries are going to be a compilation video of spectacular train-wrecks and flame-outs.
BGinCHI
Well, it’s not called the Gingrich Old Party for nothing.
Gin & Tonic
I find the use of the simple word “liar” refreshing, frankly.
4tehlulz
lol 11th commandment
catclub
@burnspbesq: I am not convinced, though would be pleased to see it.
Comparing the very strong, ‘Romney is inevitable’, air I get from the radio now versus a month ago, when newt looked very strong, I suspect this will end VERY fast. No joy for the popcorn crowd.
Villago Delenda Est
@burnspbesq:
Yeah, unfortunately the reel won’t be endless, and eventually you’ll get bored with all the crashes.
You’ll have to hope for general election debate entertainment.
Veritas
Only a few hours left until Romney wraps this thing up.
When he wins in Iowa (or even if he comes in second to Paul) he’s still on the march to win the nomination. A win will do it more quickly, a second place finish to Paul only slightly less so.
Even Santorum finishing first would not be totally catastrophic. The only thing that can really stop Romney would be a 1) Santorum 2) Paul 3) Romney, but that won’t happen.
Romney will very probably win this thing outright.
Comrade Javamanphil
@Gin & Tonic: It certainly seemed to confuse the news reporters. One might even suspect they have never heard nor uttered the word.
BGinCHI
If Romney wins the nomination, is he allowed to pick multiple VPs due to his religion?
Benjamin Franklin
I know we’re a little nervous seeing as the Republicans have always held the title for most atavistic troglodytes. But, really; aren’t they going into the Convention in chaos?. Aren’t their campaigns burning like crosses in Mississippi?
Whomever they crown as overachiever come Convention; aren’t they behind the shot-clock at mid-court?
I see dead people.
Mark S.
Santorum: States Should Have The Right To Outlaw Birth Control
Wow, what a puritanical creep. Of course, Ron Paul thinks the same thing, but that’s just because he loves liberty.
kindness
Oh Newtie….Now you expect us to take you seriously?
Mark S.
@BGinCHI:
Silly, but it made me lol
BO_Bill
This is good news for Ron Paul.
Martin
@Gin & Tonic: Agreed. Now if we can only get a journalist to use that word.
@burnspbesq: After Iowa and NH is SC and FL. There’ll be fun yet before this is over.
cmorenc
I don’t hold out much hope that the evil-slasher clown show that is the GOP Presidential candidate field will cause any of the 27-percenters to decide to consider instead voting for Obama in November. I do hope it will de-motivate enough of them from turning out, however. The biggest effect it may have is to discourage GOP-leaning independents from turning out in November.
Litlebritdifrnt
The bumper sticker that I posted about below
“Republicans 2012
Keeping Millions out of work
to put one man out of a job”
Gin & Tonic
OT, and I don’t dare peek under the rock, but the thread which cannot be named is over 650 comments. Just makes me wonder, if you’re posting, say, comment #638, what purpose are you serving?
BGinCHI
I predict that at the GOP convention the candidates left standing are going to shoot a basketball from half court until somebody makes one.
At least one of them will have done something without hurting anyone.
The Moar You Know
Heard that Gingrich interview this AM. It was quite interesting.
He’s on a war against Democrats. But the people who’ve earned his true hatred are his fellow Republicans. I am guessing a failure to acknowledge his genius is the problem, as it always has been his entire life.
No wonder his fellow GOPers have been hitting him so hard out of the gate. They’re (with good reason) scared to death of the payback he’d inflict if he could get into power.
Liberal Sandlapper
I haven’t been here for a couple of days. Did I miss anything?
I don’t think anything is decided until us folks down here in South Kakalakee get our say. There may be some trouble lurking down here for Mitt. As many tea baggers as we have down here, I suspect there may be a surprise.
Villago Delenda Est
@The Moar You Know:
That’s because those ingrates aren’t smart enough to appreciate how AWESOME Noot is!
Liberal Sandlapper
@Gin & Tonic: No shit! I wouldn’t go near that thread if somebody paid me.
Pray Tell
John Wayne Gacy: Does it matter if he’s dressed as a clown or in a Mickey Mouse costume?
Fascists: Does the Elephant or Donkey costume really matter?
The Moar You Know
@Villago Delenda Est: I’m pretty sure this is word for word what is going through his mind.
I expect a Category 5 meltdown from Mr. Gingrich when Mitt wins this thing tonight.
Comrade Javamanphil
@Liberal Sandlapper: There is a Sadly, No thread that ran for years with occasional flareups, if I am remembering all my internet traditions correctly. At some point I think the sheer absurdity of it becomes the entire point.
dmsilev
@The Moar You Know: Almost makes me want to cheer for Mittens. Almost.
On the other hand, if the RomneyTronic 3000 underperforms his polls and comes in third (or even fourth), that’d be great for maximum hilarity going forward.
Benjamin Franklin
@Gin & Tonic:
I’ve found that after the dust settles, some actual dialogue commences.
dmsilev
Trainwreck alert:
Me, I’m praying for a well-targetted meteor strike.
Quicksand
@Gin & Tonic: I reject your premise that there’s EVER a purpose served by posting here.
Cat Lady
Is even Fox News in on the joke with their headline “Santorum: Ron Paul is disgusting”? Reality keeps lapping satire and I’m no longer able to comprehend where we are located on the snarkometer scale anymore.
wrb
It’s the Newt’s if he’d only recognize his overlooked advantage: his pleasingly plump bod.
With America as lard-assed as it has become, it is poised for one of the periodic reversals on the matter of body-image.
Do Americans really trust the twitchy ghetto-gaunt socialist satyr?
Or Mittens’ health-spa perfection.
The Newt’s a guy with whom to spend a day of the couch, scarfing dip unapologetically. A guy to make you feel good about chomping into that dripping monster-burger, and the big bowl of ice cream to follow.
All he needs to do is unite the blobs of America and no more will Michelle look down upon the with pursed-lipped disapproval.
Yevgraf
@dmsilev:
If singularity-level stupid has an event horizon, this will be the proof.
wrb
It’s the Newt’s if he’d only recognize his overlooked advantage: his pleasingly plump bod.
With America as lard-assed as it has become, it is poised for one of the periodic reversals on the matter of body-image.
Do Americans really trust the twitchy ghetto-gaunt soc-alist satyr?
Or Mittens’ health-spa perfection?
The Newt’s a guy with whom to spend a day of the couch, scarfing dip unapologetically. A guy to make you feel good about chomping into that dripping monster-burger, and the big bowl of ice cream to follow.
All he needs to do is unite the blobs of America and no more will Michelle look down upon the with pursed-lipped disapproval.
Martin
@Gin & Tonic:
So you’re in favor of nun raping as well then? Should have known…
Citizen Alan
Man, even Veritas’s pie comments are bitter, angry and stupid! It’s like he’s trying to overcome the pie filter through sheer hate!
taylormattd
Well, John, I’m hoping Ron Paul wins, given he is running to the left of Obama.
Southern Beale
Just saw my first Newt Gingrich 2012 bumper sticker while walking the dog. I mean, jeeeeez.
Looks like the “thou shalt not criticize other Republicans” rule is pretty out the window. Much as these modern conservatives worship Ronald Reagan, they couldn’t be further removed from their hero. And as someone who despised Reagan, let me say with no irony: I mean that in a BAD way.
taylormattd
@Citizen Alan: Veritas is a wingnut, or possibly a paid Romney troll. In the other thread, he uses the phrase “Kos Kiddez”. Google that, and see who uses it.
Martin
@wrb:
See, that’s why I’m hopeful that Newt will rally once we hit the Krispy Kreme primary states. He looks like the kind of guy you can sit down and eat a box of donuts with.
Mark S.
@Gin & Tonic:
Winning!
The Dangerman
@Citizen Alan:
He (She? It?) may drive me back to Firefox; my hitch to Chrome is losing it’s chrome.
Punchy
Doubt it. Bachs is out after Iowa, Hunts Audi5000 after NH. Perry out after Carolina. And The Grinch out after FL, and then it’s just Romney and Gary Johnson. Santorum will stay in and collect 7% of the god-botherers in every state.
EconWatcher
It seems to me that Newt is as close as we’re going to get to having Rush himself in the race, and it’s all good. The more that Newt and Rush are the face of the party, the more it’s pushed to its 27% nub.
El Cid
@Gin & Tonic: Hey, is the typical polite media and pundit crowd on smelling salts since a politician called another one a liar? Or do they freak out only if a liberal or Democrat says that about a conservative or Republican?
Violet
I hope Mittens comes in no higher than third. Fourth place would be even better. A surprise Top Four place by someone like Newt or Perry would be great entertainment.
Kola Noscopy
Glenzilla and ACL have an epic Twitter war going in response to this post of Cole’s.
Check it out!
Mark S.
@taylormattd:
I don’t know how any liberal of good conscience could not support Ron Paul.
Calouste
@Martin:
You’d have to be quick though, if you want any donuts yourself.
Ed Drone
@Cat Lady:
Lapping? Hell, satire just took off his shoes and settled back to watch the fun. He says, “Pass the popcorn, please. Who’s got a drink?”
Ed
The Moar You Know
@Kola Noscopy: You’re like some dipshit junior high-schooler charging into the class to tell us that the school’s two dorks are having a fight down by the flagpole.
We’ve got better things to do.
In a fight like that, I can only root for injuries. Loathe them both.
peach flavored shampoo
So he’s fighting his knee?
Brandon
@Punchy: gotta agree here. If there was just one more not-Mitt candidate in the mix who we could hope for another late surge, I’d be hopeful. But just don’t see that now. My best hope is that SC does what it does best and the base there goes mental at the prospect of Romney and rebels. Probably at this point we can only hope that Perry has a Newt level comeback left in him. But like that pesky BCS, it is better to lose early in the season than late if you want to make it to the championship game.
wrb
@Martin:
It’s the unremarked key.
The Newt leads where on Krispy Kremes they feeds.
Ed Drone
@Kola Noscopy:
I didn’t know we had an Angry Cat Lady here! When did she come on the scene?
Ed
Ed Drone
@Brandon:
South Carolina — too small for a state, too large for an asylum.
Ed
Cris (without an H)
SIWOTI
Culture of Truth
Gingrich is running for President for the cash. Romney is is only running because has all the money he needs and his dad was famous and he looks in the mirror and sees a white guy with big shoulders and thinks “I should be in charge”
BO_Bill
You misunderstand the new term ‘liberal’ Matt S. Historically, Liberalism was the embrace of our Five Senses, the Seven Liberal Arts and Sciences, and the free exchange of ideas, to counter the power-grip of the Catholic Church. It, in my opinion, was a glorious celebration of man and discovery, and led to stuff like space flight and fast food.
This current crop just wants to shut you up, tell you what to eat, watch you with cameras, and take your money. These are the consequences of Truth being replaced with Religion, or Belief in the Absence of Perception. When observations are articulated (sight, sound, touch, taste, smell) that run counter to the Dogma, they are suppressed by calling the voicer of observations names. Then they censor you. Then they blow you up. Consider the book 1984.
Ron Paul 2012
MikeJ
@The Dangerman: There is a pie filter for chrome too. The UI has lagged behind the ffox version though in that you go to a seperate page to enter people into the filter, but at the time that was an improvement over the ffox version’s “edit the source code” method.
In my copious spare time I’ll update it.
DonkeyKong
It’s like the old Norm McDonald joke. “There was a prison break today, but the prisoners didn’t get very far because they kept stopping to rape one another.”
Cris (without an H)
@taylormattd: Are you being facetious? There’s nothing “left” about Ron Paul’s positions, even when those positions happen to bring him to objectives we can support (such as ending the Drug Wars and the Drone Wars).
Martin
@BO_Bill:
I agree! Can we put Reagan’s head-in-a-jar on the same ticket? He’ll be 201 years old, and I can think of no better way to celebrate.
kindness
My other half and I went to a gathering of our college friends who live around us. Almost all of these folks are now republicans with libertarian/militia leanings. They know we’re liberals & Democrats but don’t give us too hard a time. When I started playing Devil’s Advocate bringing up the Republicans in Iowa, not one of these very conservative people had one good thing to say. Every one of them thought all the candidates sucked and were very unhappy. The only candidate they thought who actually meant what they said was Ron Paul and they don’t like his foreign policy views (warmongers gotta war I guess).
I was impressed they weren’t pulling a Fox News thing where there is never good news about a Democrat or bad news about a Republican. Mind you, they still all hate Obama and believe the things we all laugh about republicans saying here, but if Northern Cal is a sign, it is a very bad sign for Republicans. Does that translate into good news for Barack? Hardly. Look at the media. They act like they want Obama to lose & I think they do. But it was nice to know.
@BO_Bill: Moran.
BO_Bill
What the fuck are you talking about Martin? My post says 2012.
Cris (without an H)
The proper pronoun for a troll is “they,” because they are Legion.
Carnacki
O/T but this is big news for West Virginia
Cris (without an H)
Attention, all planets of the Solar Federation: we have assumed control
Punchy
My Pops is about as hard-core a righty, Limbaugh disciple there is, and when I asked him who he liked, he only begrugingly said Noot. They really do HATE this group of candys.
Davis X. Machina
@Punchy: Jonathan Bernstein has Newt doing the Jerry-Brown-in-1992 thang — hang in there, win a late primary or two, change nothing, think big, lose bigger.
But it’s Santorum who’s really ideally cut out for that gig. Chasing that 7% is a game you can play right up till the convention.
DFS
@Cris (without an H): That album, of course, was dedicated “to the genius of Ayn Rand.”
I think Neil Peart eventually got over his Randroid phase but it produced some fucking weird music back in the 70s.
Culture of Truth
I don’t take much solace in the die-hards unhappiness, because they will vote on November 2012 against Obama, and someone like Romney could pull along independents.
burnspbesq
@Kola Noscopy:
Life’s too short.
Cassidy
@Mark S.: If only Obama was as liberal as RP to let the states choose whether they wanted birth control or not.
Chuck Butcher
@burnspbesq:
If the children play down there, maybe this one will stay sorta sane.
trollhattan
@BO_Bill:
Okay, having returned to your La-Z-Boy(tm) you’re now just cutting and pasting from old posts. How about some more on stalking women drivers with “coexist” bumper stickers on their Subarus?
Chuck Butcher
@Chuck Butcher:
well, there is always a BOB to consider when referring to “sorta sane”…
Mark S.
@Cassidy:
It’s the only position a true lover of liberty could take.
States should be allowed to choose whether they want to re-segregate schools or not.
NCSteve
Which makes him different from the others, how, exactly? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
BO_Bill
I have escalated Subaru surveillance to a higher power trollhatten. He seems to be taking to it with great zeal.
Cassidy
@Mark S.: Oh definitely. And if everything was as liberal as RP, we could re-segregate the cities and create ghettos again and let the states choose for white people to live in the suburbs.
Roger Moore
@The Moar You Know:
That would be his diagnosis of the problem. Those of us in the reality based community would call his failure to be a genius the underlying problem. The reason Newt looks so bloated is because his ego is trying to physically manifest, and no human body is big enough to contain it.
taylormattd
@BO_Bill: parody?
taylormattd
@Cris (without an H): I’m just quoting his holiness, the “liberal” blogger who must never be criticized and is never wrong, Glenn Greenwald.
Roger Moore
@Gin & Tonic:
You’re settling a score with whoever posted comment #635, who you know damn well is still actively reading because they posted six other comments in the past 15 minutes. Nothing is ever settled by a big shouting match where the positions boil down to “you’re an idiot” and “no, you’re the idiot”, but that doesn’t stop people from engaging in them in person. Why should on-line be any different.
taylormattd
@Cassidy: for which candidate did you vote in the 2008 primaries? Just curious.
Yevgraf
@Cassidy:
Them terr’ists hate us fer our freedoms.
@Mark S.:
“Ah’m praoud to be ‘Murkin, where at least Ah know Ah’m fraaaaaeeeeeee…..”
@Cassidy:
Freedom!! WOLVERINES!!!!!
Arm The Homeless
As a denizen of Flori-Duh, I can report that the general feeling of sucki-tude among the pig-people is palpable. I really do think you’re going to find that a lot of regular GOP voters down here just aren’t going to be persuaded to open their pocket-books (gawd, I can’t believe I am actually using that phrase. I have become my grandmother!)
With the negative coat-tails that pRick Scott has after only two years in charge and the internal fighting and out-and-out hatred among the pig-people’s elected representatives, it’s going to be a really wild ride this year.
WereBear (itouch)
@BGinCHI: ROFL!
Chris
@kindness:
According to facebook, same with my hillbilly cousins who’re enormously depressed with their candidate field.
I’d say they’re suffering from the same fatigue as Marxists started suffering from halfway through the twentieth century – namely, having your people come to power again and again and yet the earthly paradise they promised you keeps failing to materialize. There’s only so many times you can say “they didn’t do it right,” “they weren’t really on our team” and “give us another chance because the real problem is that we weren’t [insert ideology here] ENOUGH all these other times.”
Which doesn’t mean Movement Conservatism’s on its last legs by any means – after all, the USSR kept on keeping on for years after the average Soviet citizen stopped believing what his leaders were pretending to believe.
Cris (without an H)
@taylormattd: ok cool, my snark meter has kind of a GG-sized hole on its readout
grandpa john
The most amusing thing about those headlines is
1. They are both factual statements
2. You can reverse the positioning of the names in those headlines and the still would be factual statements
DanielX
Newt Gingrich wants to be president, period, -30-, end of story. He will do anything to achieve that end. That includes microwaving live kittens or feeding fellow Republicans headfirst into a wood chipper, for that matter. He regards himself as a man of destiny, and at this point he has nothing to lose – this is his last shot.
Nellcote
@Cris (without an H):
If you’re going to persist in this canard, could you at least call it what it is…the FEDERAL drug wars.
Karen
And of course these same people who are bitching about Romney Anonymous PAC being able to hit and decimate without having their fingerprints on it will have those same complaints when Romney is the candidate against Obama…