So long as Cain were attacking the liberal media, he could count on most conservatives to defend him. But once he began accusing Rick Perry (without any conclusive evidence), he immediately alienated two groups: Conservatives who like Perry — and conservatives who were otherwise neutral — but who now view Perry as the only viable alternative to Mitt Romney.
Is there anyone who can lead them out of this wilderness?
It will be interesting to see how pundits such as Rush Limbaugh respond to this.
Whenever I’m having trouble deciding something, I always wait for a drug-addicted fat ass to tell me how to think. Christ these people are pathetic.
Standard TEPCO response to anything: 1. Pat heads, 2. Make cooing sounds, 3. Point to lovely coastline.
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Villago Delenda Est
The thing is, unless Politico tells us who their source was (that is, who called them up and said “I’ve got dirty on Cain, do your duty to The Party and the wealthy individuals who pay your salaries and print this”) we can’t know which camp is responsible.
Much of the speculation has been that this is a Rove operation, on behalf of OvenMitt, but Perry has been known to play dirty, too, and Perry has an immediate motivation, Cain’s remarks on the name of his hunting lodge.
Although the name thing may have been a Rove operation as well, launched when Perry was considered the prime threat to the orderly coronation of OvenMitt.
Should another host of the “Anyone but the Mormon” beast emerge, they will be subject to some revelation that serves two purposes: diverts MSM attention to the new charges and away from OvenMitt’s spectacular lameness, and also further enhances OvenMitt’s credentials as the candidate with the best shot at the near sheriff.
That actually looks like “International Rules,” a cross between AFL and Gaelic football which the Irish and Aussies fool around with every few years.
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JPL
Since this is an open thread I want to mention Judge Asshole.
If you are not sure who I mean just type judge into google and his name comes up first.
The Houston Chronicle online headline says Her Video creates crisis for Texas Judge. WTF…His actions caused a crisis. Can’t Gov. Perry remove this jerk from the bench? Gov. Perry likes to appear tough carrying his gun around, how about showing some spine and removing him from office and suggesting that he is disbarred.
btw..the video is probably nsfw…not safe if you have stomach problems…not safe if you are prone to screaming or crying…
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fasteddie9318
@deep cap: That picture was not very funny. A funny picture would be of you sticking your head up your own ass and then lighting one of your farts on fire.
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Yutsano
@Ben Cisco: Does this mean Herb’s gonna go birfer?
That word…it does not mean what you think it does.
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debit
@trollhattan: There was a news article yesterday about one of the plants (can’t remember which one) where a politician said the water in the containment tank was now perfectly fine. A reporter then challenged him to drink it. And he did. I don’t want to go looking for the story for fear of the follow up.
It’s like they’re competing for the nomination or something. It’s crazy.
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Amanda in the South Bay
Can I say how much I fucking hate the Valley Transportation Authority, here in Santa Clara County? I don’t care that they are public employees and unionised, screw them. I swear, they can’t get transfers right. God forbid you want to transfer from light rail to a bus. Jeebus those idiots can’t operate a competent transit agency. If I could afford a car, I’d never rely on the VTA again.
/rant
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Paul in KY
@JPL: I got thru about 3 1/2 mins & I had seen enough.
Owner of car dealership labeled “Taliban Toyota” wins millions
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The owner of a large southwest Alabama car dealership derided as “Taliban Toyota” by a competitor has been awarded $7.5 million in damages after a jury trial for his slander claim.
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Iranian-born Shawn Esfahani, owner of Eastern Shore Toyota in Daphne, Alabama, sought $28 million in compensatory and punitive damages from Bob Tyler Toyota, claiming employees at that Pensacola, Florida-based dealership falsely portrayed him as an Islamist militant to customers….
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Esfahani’s lawsuit said that Bob Tyler sales manager Fred Kenner told at least one couple considering buying from Eastern Shore Toyota in 2009 that Esfahani was of Middle Eastern descent and was “helping fund the insurgents there and is also laundering money for them….”
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A Bob Tyler salesman was accused of telling the same couple that Esfahani was from Iraq and calling him a “terrorist” who put soldiers including the salesman’s brother in harm’s way.
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“(Esfahani) is funneling money back to his family and other terrorists. I have a brother over there and what you’re doing is helping kill my brother,” the salesman told the couple when he called them on the Eastern Shore sales floor, according to the suit.
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The jury deliberated for three hours before awarding Esfahani $2.5 million in compensatory damages and $5 million in punitive damages on Monday evening.
Some Car Sales people are beyond slime.
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fasteddie9318
Here’s a prediction game to play; fill in the blanks.
1. If the Republicans nominate Mitt Romney, this will mean a ______% possibility of a third party or independent candidacy from the right.
2. The likely candidate for this movement, should it occur, will be ________________.
@Brian S: guessing the same study shows that polls initiated by right wing think tanks almost certainly reach the desired conclusions of their constituencies
I love that. “As long as Cain was baselessly attacking the wrong people I was willing to support him. Once he got smart and identified who was really behind the information leak I could no longer support him.”
Reminds me of that Alan Jackson song in which he glorified America’s ignorance of the difference between Iraq and Iran.
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JPL
@Paul in KY: He’s on paid leave this week and he won’t be able to hear cases involving children for awhile.
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Uncle Clarence Thomas
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Fuck UNESCO. What did they ever do for boss bitch, anyway? And they haven’t contributed even one dime to the Greatest Cause of Our Time – the re-election of President Obama.
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The Republicans won’t run a third party Teabagger candidate if Mitt is the nominee. They’ll vote for the magic underpants wearing Mormon whether they like him or not.
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fasteddie9318
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: Wingnuts eventually come around to whatever milquetoast moderate the GOP winds up nominating, but I think the freakshow is running hot enough this time that a third party/independent movement could hang around, if it got started right in the aftermath of Mitt’s nomination when the anger will be really hot. This is all assuming that a candidate who tops out at 25% support party-wide can actually get the nomination, which I still have doubts about.
Sonny’s more recent albums aren’t what they used to be, but he’s still a beast in concert. Good stuff.
Very true. But I love what the Wiki says about Saxophone Colossus
Saxophone Colossus is one of Sonny Rollins’ most acclaimed albums. Recorded and released in 1956, it has been awarded a rare Crown by The Penguin Guide to Jazz, and is widely considered the masterpiece of his mid-1950s series of recordings for Prestige Records and one of the greatest albums ever issued on that label.
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Brachiator
So, everybody and his tech mamma tried to come up with an iPad killer and failed.
Amazon made people sit up and take notice with the upcoming Kindle Fire. And now, before the Fire is released comes this little nugget. Google, HP and all the other Android companies should take notice. You gotta have content to go along with your hardware. A little something more than another port of Angry Birds.
Twelve days before its Kindle Fire tablet arrives, Amazon has announced a new service that makes buying a Kindle device even more valuable. The Kindle Owners’ Lending Library is available now via the Amazon website.
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Beginning today, Kindle customers can choose from thousands of books to borrow for free including over 100 current and former New York Times Bestsellers. To do so, customers need to own a Kindle (any Kindle, in fact) and an Amazon Prime membership ($79/year).
And this is the part that I love (and I am a happy iPad owner):
This news follows the introduction earlier this year of the company’s Prime Instant Videos Plan. Using this service, Prime customers have unlimited (and free) instant streaming of over 10,000 movies and TV shows.
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Of course, neither Prime offering works on Apple iDevices, which almost certainly is deliberate.
Damn, I wish Steve Jobs was still here. I bet he would enjoy the challenge of dealing with a worthy competitor.
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fasteddie9318
@Brachiator: Yeah, damn that was a great album. “Blue 7” blows my mind every time I listen to it.
@burnspbesq: I caught Sonny at the Sunshine theater in Albuquerque back in 1993, and it was everything a jazz concert should be. Every eyeball, every ear in the room was fixed on that stage.
As a competent but mediocre saxophone player and extremely poor improviser, I take Rollins as an inspiration, because every piece he plays is like a compact primer on how to do it. He starts with the melody and then wanders a little farther astray with every iteration, until you’re off in Unexpected Composition Land.
I dunno, there have been tons of promises of Android iPad killers over the past year. I mean, has any tech blog actually gotten ahold of one yet to thoroughly demo and review? I’m going to be cautious before jumping on any bandwagon.
I totally hear you. I listen to “Best Wishes,” the opening track on Road Shows Vol. 1, and I say to myself, “I could have a lot of fun with these changes. I can play this on guitar. Hell, I could probably play it on mandolin.” Then I listen for two minutes, and I have to say, “I can’t play it like that.” Which is why, when offered the chance to major in music, I wisely chose economics and law instead.
If any of you are ever out in Pittsburgh, I believe Roger Humphries (drummer on many of Rollin’s big albums) still plays with his own band weekly. I have never gotten to see it but I hear that even at elder-statesman age, he still rocks out big time. A drum teacher that I breifly took lessons from said that Humphries was even more impressive than Tony Williams after seeing both of them live. Thanks Doug for the jazz!
I dunno, there have been tons of promises of Android iPad killers over the past year. I mean, has any tech blog actually gotten ahold of one yet to thoroughly demo and review? I’m going to be cautious before jumping on any bandwagon.
I really don’t believe in iPad (or device killers). But I think that Amazon may succeed where HP and others failed in delivering a truly consumer oriented device.
The current issue of Consumer Reports has a favorable review of the Kindle Fire. But you are very correct that a comprehensive hands-on review is needed. I see that some reviewers have simply been repeating spec sheet information. But I would really like to know what the battery life is, for example, if you play nothing but videos until the thing dies. I would also like to know how smooth and functional the browser is.
On the other hand, I have been bored to tears by tech heads who complain that the Kindle Fire does not offer “the full Android experience” or does not have an app store where you can buy loads of games.
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scav
@Brachiator: Beyond that, there’s the simple content side of things. Lending library plus streaming? Fire or no Fire, that’s probably enough to have me dump NetFlix (my personal reservations will arise in re: data-mining minutia and which borg I hate most on the day). Multi-front campaign is being waged.
I have been bored to tears by tech heads who complain that the Kindle Fire does not offer “the full Android experience” or does not have an app store where you can buy loads of games.
There isn’t really much that can be done about people who convince themselves that a thing should be something other than what its manufacturers say it’s going to be, and then are disappointed when it turns out to be exactly what the manufacturer said it was going to be.
And then, when you say something as transparently obvious as “Want the full android experience? Buy an android device,” they get all huffy.
There isn’t really much that can be done about people who convince themselves that a thing should be something other than what its manufacturers say it’s going to be, and then are disappointed when it turns out to be exactly what the manufacturer said it was going to be.
True, but this can be misleading or worse when it is presented in a newspaper or tech blog as an honest or accurate review. Some of these people are not even aware of their biases. And here I mean more a techie geek focus.
Also, it is not just that these reviewers are disappointed. It is that they are hostile or childishly insistent that every device, including tablets, must be an open source little portable computer that must conform to the specs that they have in their heads.
And then, when you say something as transparently obvious as “Want the full android experience? Buy an android device,” they get all huffy.
But even here it can get nutty. I was watching an Android tech podcast, where the hosts at first acknowledged how fragmentation in the Android marketplace confuses consumers, who may not know which is the most current Android operating system and whether even newer devices can be upgraded.
But then another guest in effect said that none of this really matters since you can just root an Android device and customize it the way you want. This kind of thing may be OK for dedicated tech heads, but is just dumb to suggest to general consumers.
rollins is the mohammed freaking ali of jazz. period.
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Paul in KY
@JPL: He needs to be brought up before a Judicial Standards board or something like that. I hear the statute of limitations protects him from criminal prosecution, but they can still declare him unfit for office & remove him.
He doesn’t seem to have ‘Judicial Temperment’.
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dedc79
Rollins is still performing and just played in Washington, DC and I’m kicking myself for missing it.
El Cruzado
Try Googling “Do a barrel roll”
soonergrunt
for those of us behind a firewall, what is it?
Mark S.
Wingnuts everywhere are confused with how to interpret the Cain sexual harassment scandal:
Is there anyone who can lead them out of this wilderness?
Whenever I’m having trouble deciding something, I always wait for a drug-addicted fat ass to tell me how to think. Christ these people are pathetic.
cleek
@El Cruzado:
or, for the milder version, “tilt”
Linda Featheringill
@soonergrunt:
Sonny Rollins playing a sax.
Brian S
Heritage and AEI have released a “study” which says not only that teachers are overpaid, but that they’re less intelligent that their peers. I expect the follow-up to say that they’re smelly and have cooties.
Paul Gottlieb
What a young, square-looking Jim Hall!
Linda Featheringill
@Mark S.:
Is Perry the one who outed Cain? I have no idea. But even if Perry is innocent of this crime, I suspect that he wishes he had thought of it.
Cat Lady
@Mark S.:
Fun watching them though, innit? What’s a teatard moron to do?
burnspbesq
@dedc79:
You should be. Sonny still brings it every night. I saw him about 18 months ago and was blown away.
Have you heard “Road Shows Vol. 2,” which includes a huge chunk of his 80th birthday concert? Un. Real.
burnspbesq
Another clip from what I think is going to end up as my favorite record of 2011, “The Goat Rodeo Sessions.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-31e8Nlujw
Villago Delenda Est
@Mark S.:
Because they can’t think for themselves, and must rely on received wisdom to function, they’re fucked.
They’re sheep. Mindless sheep.
fasteddie9318
Sonny’s more recent albums aren’t what they used to be, but he’s still a beast in concert. Good stuff.
Mornington Crescent
A rugby pitch invasion by a dog, who joins in on the action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5dcRdWsf-4
deep cap
Funny picture:
http://earthhopenetwork.net/obama_baaa-ma.jpg
ThresherK
@Mark S.: The Daily Caller castigating a Republican for going after another Republican “without any conclusive evidence”?
May I live long enough to be inured to the humor in that.
trollhattan
Haven’t though about Fukushma Dai’ichi for awhile. I wonder how things are going there? Oh.
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ2011110316446
Standard TEPCO response to anything: 1. Pat heads, 2. Make cooing sounds, 3. Point to lovely coastline.
Villago Delenda Est
The thing is, unless Politico tells us who their source was (that is, who called them up and said “I’ve got dirty on Cain, do your duty to The Party and the wealthy individuals who pay your salaries and print this”) we can’t know which camp is responsible.
Much of the speculation has been that this is a Rove operation, on behalf of OvenMitt, but Perry has been known to play dirty, too, and Perry has an immediate motivation, Cain’s remarks on the name of his hunting lodge.
Although the name thing may have been a Rove operation as well, launched when Perry was considered the prime threat to the orderly coronation of OvenMitt.
Should another host of the “Anyone but the Mormon” beast emerge, they will be subject to some revelation that serves two purposes: diverts MSM attention to the new charges and away from OvenMitt’s spectacular lameness, and also further enhances OvenMitt’s credentials as the candidate with the best shot at the near sheriff.
Ben Cisco
@deep cap: The word, you are not using it correctly.
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In other news, it appears Atlas Juggs can teach the Herman Cain a thing or two. Or something.
burnspbesq
@Mornington Crescent:
That actually looks like “International Rules,” a cross between AFL and Gaelic football which the Irish and Aussies fool around with every few years.
JPL
Since this is an open thread I want to mention Judge Asshole.
If you are not sure who I mean just type judge into google and his name comes up first.
The Houston Chronicle online headline says Her Video creates crisis for Texas Judge. WTF…His actions caused a crisis. Can’t Gov. Perry remove this jerk from the bench? Gov. Perry likes to appear tough carrying his gun around, how about showing some spine and removing him from office and suggesting that he is disbarred.
btw..the video is probably nsfw…not safe if you have stomach problems…not safe if you are prone to screaming or crying…
fasteddie9318
@deep cap: That picture was not very funny. A funny picture would be of you sticking your head up your own ass and then lighting one of your farts on fire.
Yutsano
@Ben Cisco: Does this mean Herb’s gonna go birfer?
Villago Delenda Est
@deep cap:
That word…it does not mean what you think it does.
debit
@trollhattan: There was a news article yesterday about one of the plants (can’t remember which one) where a politician said the water in the containment tank was now perfectly fine. A reporter then challenged him to drink it. And he did. I don’t want to go looking for the story for fear of the follow up.
ETA: I looked: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8861757/Japan-MP-drinks-water-from-Fukushima-radioactive-puddle.html Not dead yet.
Paul in KY
@deep cap: I hope I didn’t go to a wacko site to see that image.
Mark S.
@ThresherK:
It’s like they’re competing for the nomination or something. It’s crazy.
Amanda in the South Bay
Can I say how much I fucking hate the Valley Transportation Authority, here in Santa Clara County? I don’t care that they are public employees and unionised, screw them. I swear, they can’t get transfers right. God forbid you want to transfer from light rail to a bus. Jeebus those idiots can’t operate a competent transit agency. If I could afford a car, I’d never rely on the VTA again.
/rant
Paul in KY
@JPL: I got thru about 3 1/2 mins & I had seen enough.
Brachiator
My favorite current news story.
Some Car Sales people are beyond slime.
fasteddie9318
Here’s a prediction game to play; fill in the blanks.
1. If the Republicans nominate Mitt Romney, this will mean a ______% possibility of a third party or independent candidacy from the right.
2. The likely candidate for this movement, should it occur, will be ________________.
piratedan
@Brian S: guessing the same study shows that polls initiated by right wing think tanks almost certainly reach the desired conclusions of their constituencies
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@Mark S.:
I love that. “As long as Cain was baselessly attacking the wrong people I was willing to support him. Once he got smart and identified who was really behind the information leak I could no longer support him.”
Amanda in the South Bay
@Brachiator:
Reminds me of that Alan Jackson song in which he glorified America’s ignorance of the difference between Iraq and Iran.
JPL
@Paul in KY: He’s on paid leave this week and he won’t be able to hear cases involving children for awhile.
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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Fuck UNESCO. What did they ever do for boss bitch, anyway? And they haven’t contributed even one dime to the Greatest Cause of Our Time – the re-election of President Obama.
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Pavlov's Dog
Appears Cain has some more problems:
http://pjmedia.com/blog/breaking-pjm-sources-report-details-of-alleged-cain-incident/
Taking a drunk twenty-something back to his apartment for an over nighter.
trollhattan
@debit:
Good lord, what a maroon. I hope his party offers a good healthcare plan.
Also, too, cesium-enhanced cedars. Whoda thunk?
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ2011110116235
Villago Delenda Est
@Brachiator:
I hear Goldline is hiring, these guys seem to be perfect for them.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@fasteddie9318:
The Republicans won’t run a third party Teabagger candidate if Mitt is the nominee. They’ll vote for the magic underpants wearing Mormon whether they like him or not.
fasteddie9318
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: Wingnuts eventually come around to whatever milquetoast moderate the GOP winds up nominating, but I think the freakshow is running hot enough this time that a third party/independent movement could hang around, if it got started right in the aftermath of Mitt’s nomination when the anger will be really hot. This is all assuming that a candidate who tops out at 25% support party-wide can actually get the nomination, which I still have doubts about.
Ben Cisco
@Yutsano: Yes and maybe?
Brachiator
@fasteddie9318:
Very true. But I love what the Wiki says about Saxophone Colossus
Brachiator
So, everybody and his tech mamma tried to come up with an iPad killer and failed.
Amazon made people sit up and take notice with the upcoming Kindle Fire. And now, before the Fire is released comes this little nugget. Google, HP and all the other Android companies should take notice. You gotta have content to go along with your hardware. A little something more than another port of Angry Birds.
And this is the part that I love (and I am a happy iPad owner):
Damn, I wish Steve Jobs was still here. I bet he would enjoy the challenge of dealing with a worthy competitor.
fasteddie9318
@Brachiator: Yeah, damn that was a great album. “Blue 7” blows my mind every time I listen to it.
Cris (without an H)
@burnspbesq: I caught Sonny at the Sunshine theater in Albuquerque back in 1993, and it was everything a jazz concert should be. Every eyeball, every ear in the room was fixed on that stage.
As a competent but mediocre saxophone player and extremely poor improviser, I take Rollins as an inspiration, because every piece he plays is like a compact primer on how to do it. He starts with the melody and then wanders a little farther astray with every iteration, until you’re off in Unexpected Composition Land.
Amanda in the South Bay
@Brachiator:
I dunno, there have been tons of promises of Android iPad killers over the past year. I mean, has any tech blog actually gotten ahold of one yet to thoroughly demo and review? I’m going to be cautious before jumping on any bandwagon.
burnspbesq
@Cris (without an H):
I totally hear you. I listen to “Best Wishes,” the opening track on Road Shows Vol. 1, and I say to myself, “I could have a lot of fun with these changes. I can play this on guitar. Hell, I could probably play it on mandolin.” Then I listen for two minutes, and I have to say, “I can’t play it like that.” Which is why, when offered the chance to major in music, I wisely chose economics and law instead.
Uncle Ebeneezer
If any of you are ever out in Pittsburgh, I believe Roger Humphries (drummer on many of Rollin’s big albums) still plays with his own band weekly. I have never gotten to see it but I hear that even at elder-statesman age, he still rocks out big time. A drum teacher that I breifly took lessons from said that Humphries was even more impressive than Tony Williams after seeing both of them live. Thanks Doug for the jazz!
Brachiator
@Amanda in the South Bay:
I really don’t believe in iPad (or device killers). But I think that Amazon may succeed where HP and others failed in delivering a truly consumer oriented device.
The current issue of Consumer Reports has a favorable review of the Kindle Fire. But you are very correct that a comprehensive hands-on review is needed. I see that some reviewers have simply been repeating spec sheet information. But I would really like to know what the battery life is, for example, if you play nothing but videos until the thing dies. I would also like to know how smooth and functional the browser is.
On the other hand, I have been bored to tears by tech heads who complain that the Kindle Fire does not offer “the full Android experience” or does not have an app store where you can buy loads of games.
scav
@Brachiator: Beyond that, there’s the simple content side of things. Lending library plus streaming? Fire or no Fire, that’s probably enough to have me dump NetFlix (my personal reservations will arise in re: data-mining minutia and which borg I hate most on the day). Multi-front campaign is being waged.
burnspbesq
@Brachiator:
There isn’t really much that can be done about people who convince themselves that a thing should be something other than what its manufacturers say it’s going to be, and then are disappointed when it turns out to be exactly what the manufacturer said it was going to be.
And then, when you say something as transparently obvious as “Want the full android experience? Buy an android device,” they get all huffy.
Le heavy sigh.
Brachiator
@burnspbesq:
True, but this can be misleading or worse when it is presented in a newspaper or tech blog as an honest or accurate review. Some of these people are not even aware of their biases. And here I mean more a techie geek focus.
Also, it is not just that these reviewers are disappointed. It is that they are hostile or childishly insistent that every device, including tablets, must be an open source little portable computer that must conform to the specs that they have in their heads.
But even here it can get nutty. I was watching an Android tech podcast, where the hosts at first acknowledged how fragmentation in the Android marketplace confuses consumers, who may not know which is the most current Android operating system and whether even newer devices can be upgraded.
But then another guest in effect said that none of this really matters since you can just root an Android device and customize it the way you want. This kind of thing may be OK for dedicated tech heads, but is just dumb to suggest to general consumers.
xian
pjmedia has the goods on Cain? then this truly is a liberal Journolist conspiracy!
russell
thanks for the video.
rollins is the mohammed freaking ali of jazz. period.
Paul in KY
@JPL: He needs to be brought up before a Judicial Standards board or something like that. I hear the statute of limitations protects him from criminal prosecution, but they can still declare him unfit for office & remove him.
He doesn’t seem to have ‘Judicial Temperment’.