take as much robitussin as I have, and a lot of things are funny.
I’m in the same boat, just woke up from a solid 5 hour nap and only am slightly better.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
I posted this earlier not knowing the thread was a death match!
I just spent the day a Ft Stewart meeting with officers, nco’s and enlisted personnel about their educational needs. These anti-immigration assholes need to spend some time with these folks before they spout off their bullshit. Really nice young people and plenty of folks with names that are not Smith.
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The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik
Better Robitussin than NyQuil. We wouldn’t see you until morning if you took the Green Sleep.
Knew a guy that was a Robitussin junkie, a real junkie, drank the shit all day everyday. He told me once about how his car was acting funky, so he went to the used car lot and test drove a nicer car, and just kept on driving. Didn’t dawn on his he was guilty of car theft, that in his “Robo DM” laced brain, that they had simply made a straight up trade. He ended up spending a couple years in jail for that and some other exploits shitfaced from cough syrup. Stranger than fiction.
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beltane
My son’s high-school band is trying to convince the school to allow them to go down to OWS for their annual band trip instead of going to a museum and Broadway musical. I think that’s pretty cool.
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JPL
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Well I unloaded because a friend bitched about her sister-in-law able to use medicaid costing the government thousands of dollars. Same friend along with her husband, herself, and her elderly dad gifting the medicaid sister-in-law money for caretaking. HMMM …how does that work out. MIght be nice if you are wealthy and want to avoid taxes and then vote repub and then bitch because someone gets medicaid. For the rest of us not so much. When challenged she said she wanted to avoid to paperwork.. Much swearing occurred.
@Carlo: Sully says that we got our bank bailout cash back… what I want to know, is that before or after they bought up all of that depressed real estate?
@Southern Beale: Oh, definitely. I never get sick, and I spent the past week with something like a bad cold or mild flu that wasn’t too bad as long as I didn’t try to do anything. If I walked up a flight of stairs, I had to sit down for a while. Ms. Redshift has something worse (or a more severe case of the same thing) which she still hasn’t entirely recovered from.
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Jenny
Osama bin Laden
Muammar Gaddafi
Ratko Mladic
Whitey Bulger
Anwar al-Awlaki
Hosni Mubarak
Ben Ali
Dan Kapanke
Jennifer Shilling
Ilyas Kashmiri
Terry Francona
Abu Hafs al Shahri
Atiyah Abd al Rahman
Theo Epstein
Fazul Abdullah Mohammed
Goran Hadzic
Anthony Wiener
Pittsburgh Steelers
It’s been a bad year for the bad guys.
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beltane
@JPL: Why is it that the more money people have, the more they are prone to bitching about money?
Am I the only one who enjoys drum circles? I mean, sure I wouldn’t want to listen to them everyday. But every once in a while…they can be somewhat enjoyable. Especially when you get a good diverse mix of people in there.
Well actually, I agree. But I still think the sign is classically funny.
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JPL
@beltane: because.. they can.. This a person I have known for decades and we have spent decades together on xmas eve but her values do not equal mine. How you can complain about your father’s care giver taking advantage of medicaid while paying her 36,000 under the table so to speak is beyond the pale. BTW ..she sings in the choir and I haven’t stepped into a church in years but values are strange things.
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JPL
@SiubhanDuinne: What are you up to.. You know we have to get together.. You want to meet up Sat. I’ll fix you breakfast or lunch. Of course you will have to be bored hearing about my remodel but what the hell.
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Nevgu
Anything to distract on Libya eh Wrong On Everything Cole?!
Wrong Again Cole with another one of his fluff pieces to distract from another glaring example in the news of just how bad his crystal ball. I can’t think of a better example than pointing out Cole was flailing about on how Libya would be another quagmire and today we see Gadaffi’s corpse dragged through the streets.
Hey, what do you think about “another stupid war in Libya” now Wrong Again Cole!
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jwb
@slag: Drum circles, 14 hours a day, day after day, would get to be a bit much. But it’s also become a bigger issue for OWS, inasmuch as it is a test as to whether their consensus model can actually find a way to balance competing interests. Many in the occupation and the neighbors want the drummers to play less; if the drumming continues, their peace is disrupted. The drummers feel they express themselves and the power of the movement through the sound of the drums; if their drums are silenced, their right to expression is curtailed. So far attempts to reach an agreement have proved futile: the GA adopted a consensus that drumming should be restricted to two hours per day, but the drummers rebelled and simply ignored the consensus. It’s a problem rather symptomatic of the movement.
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JPL
@Nevgu: Libya was a good thing and I’m sure that Cole along with lots of other folks are glad that Gaddafi is gone. Personally, I didn’t like the video of his demise but I can understand the reaction.
how do you feel about it?
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beltane
My mother had to put down her 21 year-old cat today. This cat was the skittish type that made herself invisible whenever people came over, but my mother loved her and this is the first time in her life that she is catless. She’s thinking of getting a small dog so that she can bring it over to us whenever she has to travel. Any suggestions?
Senate Republicans blocked a popular piece of President Barack Obama’s stimulus plan — one to raise taxes on millionaires to create or protect 400,000 jobs for teachers and firefighters.
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cynn
Join this movement. I am the 99% or so that wakes up in a sweat wondering if I can pay my bills on time.
@JPL: Yeah. My dad invited me again on the ski trip with his family friend that I went on last winter. The skiing is very nice, but the price is that I have to put up with a week of someone rich enough to own a chalet in Switzerland demanding an explanation for why he shouldn’t get a refund of what he paid into Medicare, since he doesn’t use it, and similar right-wing crap. (Did you know that global warming is a hoax because “hockey stick” and some guy wrote a book in the 70s about the danger of global cooling?)
It’s all I can do not to scream at him “You’re so rich you can fly around the world to the best medical clinics and pay for it all out of pocket! How can you not be grateful for that instead of whining about how you’re not allowed to take back the tiny piece that goes to help everyone who is not so fortunate?”
Sigh. As nice as it was to be there, it didn’t feel like much of a vacation.
You know what, I would love to get together this weekend and hear about your remodel. Will emaill off line.
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Evolved Deep Southerner
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Brotherman! Hey, tell me how you get in and change your ‘Nym? I want to change mine slightly, but I can’t figure out how to log out of this fucker and modify it.
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cathyx
@Nevgu: Why don’t you put your drive to annoy to better use and go after the 1%.
@jwb: Ah. Drum circles are can be great when they’re a place you can walk away from or when you’re marching. When you’re in a restricted space and they’re inescapable, that could get old quickly.
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cynn
Well, lah-di-dah.
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JPL
@Redshift: Well don’t do what I did..although after I hung up my friend called back..she tried to explain why unearned income shouldn’t be taxed..and for be that was the last straw. Education does not mean common sense or smarts about how things work. Sure we can make sure everyone pays at least $100.00 towards federal income taxes and Walmart sales will go down. That won’t help anyone. Assholes.
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SiubhanDuinne
@JPL: check your email.
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amk
So the rethugs vote against america …. yet again
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beltane
@Redshift: My husband was talking to someone like this yesterday. The guy was complaining that his son, who makes $700,000 a year, was getting “hammered” by Obama. If I were there I would have suggested that this man tell his son to go get one of those $8 an hour jobs so he can know what living the good life feels like.
These people are very much like junkies. Each money fix provides them with only the most transient feelings of satisfaction and always leaves them wanting more. Maybe we should just call them money addicts and urge them to seek treatment.
Your husband needs to learn to call people out and you are just the person to teach him
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Nevgu
@JPL: Cole is not happy because he was WRONG WRONG WRONG. He did not want to do anything to Gadaffi. Like John McCain, he just wanted to make nice and point out how interesting he is. Like any naive moron would.
Can someone tell me why Gaddafi’s name is spelled a thousand different ways? Is there any other modern political figure where the global community can’t decide how to spell his or her name?
@beltane: Aw, why stop there? Make it a crime and swap the offenders with people doing time for pot possession.
Really, putting them in jail would be a kindness. These days openly complaining about how one barely squeaks by on $X00K dollars just isn’t smart or safe.
I know some wealthy people who say they’re getting “hammered” by Obama but what they really mean is they’re getting hammered by the economy. I’d remind these people to put on their big boy pants because until we can pull together and fix this fucking mess, NO ONE is making any money because the vast majority of consumers don’t have the money to spend.
It’s fine to whine about your taxes but if people don’t have the money to buy your widgets you’re not going to be getting any richer, either.
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beltane
@SiubhanDuinne: Thank you. I will relay this to her; she will appreciate it.
@AA+ Bonds: My husband is not very quick on his feet with these things. He eventually thinks of good come-backs but it’s usually a few hours too late.
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Loneoak
Another Occupy Santa Cruz post?! We’re the fucking champs on BJ.
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JPL
@Southern Beale: AHH..Someone on this blog explained to me that it was the was it was translated from different languages. It’s the one name that you probably can’t spell wrong so go with it.
@lamh34: Of course they did. So here’s my plan, which won’t do any good but will be amusing:
1. Scatter bear traps around the Capitol Building.
2. Beside each bear trap post a notice: Warning! President Democrat Liberal Hussein Obama DOES NOT want you to stick your foot in this bear trap. Really. He’ll be ever so angry.
3. Listen to the snaps and screams.
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beltane
@Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen: Yes, in jail they can have free room and board and cable TV. It’s like paradise really. Being in jail is such a good life that I wonder why these conservatives aren’t protesting outside of prisons demanding to be let in.
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JPL
@Nevgu: so what…people are wrong all the time. I’m sure he would admit that and is now sitting in his chair with Lily saying omg, I was wrong.. Get over it.
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scav
@Southern Beale: We have entire threads on the Oxford Comma — what hope can we put in the Global Community? Hope is a good and powerful force, but transliteration and grammar may [prove] its immovable objects. (You simply would not believe the whoo-haw nations can get into over place name spellings either.)
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JPL
@beltane: I am so going to use that or else demand I go to jail also,too.
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Ben
@Jenny:
I think you mean Randy Hopper rather than Jennifer Shilling (she defeated Dan Kapanke)
Sensible advice that will probably be ignored. For whatever reason Cole has attracted a few comment-stalkers who sound like he stood them up for the prom or something – clinging to juvenile butthurt instead of finding another blog to read if they can’t stomach reading the blog of John Cole, History’s Greatest Monster EVER.
@lamh34: You’d think somebody would notice that the GOP’s position is simultaneously “Get a job, parasites” and “No, we’re not going to create more jobs.”
My husband was talking to someone like this yesterday. The guy was complaining that his son, who makes $700,000 a year, was getting “hammered” by Obama. If I were there I would have suggested that this man tell his son to go get one of those $8 an hour jobs so he can know what living the good life feels like.
I would have gone with “Fuck you asshole!” and walked away. Done it before. It feels good.
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Suffern ACE
Gonna add my name to the list of folks who have the odd cold but not quite flu. Two weeks of this. I get better or feel better, but any amount of animated talking, or stress and I’m back in bed.
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Warren Terra
What the late, great Molly Ivins called Our National Laboratory For Bad Government continues apace:
Thousands of other inmates in the Texas prison system have been eating fewer meals since April after officials stopped serving lunch on the weekends in some prisons as a way to cut food-service costs.
Sadly, the smug Boss Hogg quote at the end is from a Democratic state senator.
The banks suck. The stock market is horribly broken and is being abused by the finance industry as a whole. The common man is being shafted.
…but seriously, Guy On The Left, the banks actually did pay back the money. They started repaying it hand over fist the moment Obama put executive compensation limits into the requirements on a TARP loan.
My husband was talking to someone like this yesterday. The guy was complaining that his son, who makes $700,000 a year, was getting “hammered” by Obama. If I were there I would have suggested that this man tell his son to go get one of those $8 an hour jobs so he can know what living the good life feels like.
His son’s taxes haven’t been raised a penny (more’s the pity), so he can only mean the rhetorical “hammering” of the President sometimes suggesting the wealthiest among us aren’t returning to our society according to what they’ve received from it. If he thinks that’s “hammering”, boy must have been sedated from birth.
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wilfred
You want funny?
“Yesterday, I described how the Obama Administration was going to charge the banks just $8 billion for immunity from a whole new swath of crimes. Shahien Nasiripour has more details which make the deal look even shittier. First, the proposed deal does appear to provide states immunity not just from robo-signing and the lies banksters made at origination, but also for their securitization errors.
“In return for getting the banks to agree to the refinancing scheme and give up higher interest income, the states would release the banks from civil claims related to loan originations, the stage at which many homeowners say they were duped by unscrupulous lenders.
Last month, state prosecutors proposed to effectively release the five big lenders from legal liability for allegedly wrongful securitisation practices related to the banks’ treatment of loan documents. Taken together, the release from liability over poor origination, securitisation, servicing and foreclosure practices could amount to an effective grant of immunity for the banks from civil claims, people familiar with the matter said.
And in exchange, the banks would pay 80% of their $25 billion penalty into a fund that the same people who botched HAMP would use to help just 1.36% of homeowners who are underwater on their homes.”
Transliterating Arabic is imprecise as it is. “Osama” is commonly spelled “Usama” for instance, and where we say “Koran”, others spell it “Quran”. Gadaffi’s name begins with that same consonant (qaaf) as Quran, and it isn’t even precisely pronouncable in most other languages.
Libya’s own diplomatic papers spelled his name “Qatafi”. However, the North African dialect common in the region tends to pronounce it “Gadefi”, so “Gaddafi” came around as sort of a compromise. Al-Jazeera standardized on that spelling in its English reporting, and it says a lot about their increasing influence that the spelling spread to most other newspapers.
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Suffern ACE
@Warren Terra: Who the heck discloses someone’s income to a stranger anyway.
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singfoom
@Frankensteinbeck: They paid back TARP, that is true. But TARP was certainly not the only program that could be considered a “bailout”.
I got my flu shot today. I’ve had the flu twice, once in 1957/58 when my whole family laid retching across our beds and again in l968, retching and with the worst back pain I’ve ever imagined. I haven’t gotten the shot every year, but I do think it is a good thing. I don’t want to go back there. If you have any contact with children you should get the flu shot. I am flabbergasted that the science is so good that we can keep ourselves safe from influenza, maybe imperfectly, but still. It’s a Good Thing.
Nothing worse than a cold speculum on a crisp fall day.
I would rather go to the gyno a hundred times than go to the dentist once. HATE the dentist. I go every year and brush fanatically, but I just have a dentist phobia. Argh.
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JGabriel
John Cole:
Then again, take as much robitussin as I have, and a lot of things are funny.
Duuude, Lester Bangs called. He wants to hang out with YOU.
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AA+ Bonds
I shot a flu one time
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AA+ Bonds
[John, you were of course right about Libya and would have been right if they had ghosted Qaddafi in March]
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fleeting expletive
Suzanne, back in the 60’s I went to a gyny who kept the speculum in a drawer with a low-wattage light bulb wired into the drawer which kept it warm. I hadn’t had any experience with gynecological exams, so I didn’t know that wasn’t standard. I’ve never encountered an exam since then that did one damn thing to warm up the speculum. Also, another pet peeve of mine: lots of gyny exam rooms have, oh say potholders covering the stirrups—-you don’t really want to look at those potholders. For the most part they are grossly dirty. There is never any pretense of, say, clean potholders for each patient. It is discouraging.
Al-Jazeera standardized on that spelling in its English reporting, and it says a lot about their increasing influence that the spelling spread to most other newspapers.
I think it was more that somebody had to do something
I would rather go to the gyno a hundred times than go to the dentist once. HATE the dentist.
hell, I’d rather have unmedicated childbirth again than have my teeth drilled.
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Origuy
Fella goes to a tropical island for vacation. As he gets off the plane, off in the distance, he hears the sound of drumming. All the way to the hotel, he still hears the drums. They continue as he falls asleep and are still going as he wakes up. This goes on for a few days and finally he asks the desk clerk if the drums ever stop. The desk clerk says, “Oh,no, sir! The drums never stop! It would be very bad if the drums stop!” The man says, “Why? What would happen if the drums stop?” The desk clerk says, “Bagpipe solo!”
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Mark S.
Wrong Again Cole is Wrong About Everything Again!
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fleeting expletive
At the dentist’s, you can get nitrous oxide which helps a lot. My dentist has covers on their ceiling flourescent (I can’t spell, I guess) panels portraying blue skies and sweet clouds. I have been offered headphones with music and even eyescreens (I don’t know what to call them) to watch videos or something in various dentists’ offices. It all helps. But I’m not afraid of dentists. Some are good, some are great, some aren’t so hot. If your dentist scares you, he/she isn’t probably the right person for you to go to.
And I have had at least my share of dental procedures–crowns, root canals and others. It always helps to Think Of England or whatnot.
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Joel
@Jenny: Theo Epstein is getting a huge contract from the Cubs. Can’t see how that’s bad for him. Also, didn’t Jennifer Shilling win the election (from Kapanake?)
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2liberal
how many NFL titles has that loudmouthed fool from NYC guaranteed now? 3 in NY, and now 2 in Sd. He has jumped the shark.
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John Weiss
John,
I’m glad you’re feeling better.
Wish I could say the same.
JW
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Jenny
Watching The Daily Show, and even the libuerl Jon Stewart joined Dr. Rachel Maddow in hailing Obama’s Libya strategy.
{sniffle} Won’t any liberal icon stand with the Firebaggers and PUMAs in denouncing dictator Obama? {/sniffle}
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Mark S.
Back in 2000, the outgoing Clinton administration issued a secret report on what would the global economic implications if the US paid off its debt. It concluded that so much economic activity was tied to the issuance of Treasury bonds that there could be some serious problems if the US had no debt. “In the end, Seligman [the economist who wrote most of the report] concluded it was a good idea to pay down the debt — but not to pay it off entirely.”
Fortunately, later that year the Supreme Court selected George W. Bush as president, and we never had to worry about this again. We really dodged a bullet there.
I go every year and brush fanatically, but I just have a dentist phobia
You should have had my old dentist. Holy shitballs he was hot.
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mai naem
@beltane: My guess is that his son is making $7.00 an hour not 700,000 a year. People who make a lot of money don’t go around showing off how much they make,
These people are very much like junkies. Each money fix provides them with only the most transient feelings of satisfaction and always leaves them wanting more. Maybe we should just call them money addicts and urge them to seek treatment.
It’s understandable. I sold a bunch of shares of stock and I watched how much of it went to taxes. It’s kind of disheartening because you know you would spend more money if you could have more of it. At least that is my feeling.
I had to remind myself that is the price of being part of a just society. I felt better after that. Of course my own friends tell me that taxes need to go up in order to support this country. And I totally agree. But my own greed wants more money for me.
What can I say? I have weaknesses. :)
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Joel
@Yutsano: My dentist will enter me to win an iPad if I “like” him on Facebook. I’m considering it.
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Yutsano
@Joel: What’s the worst that could happen? You get a little Facebook spam & possibly the newest hot toy on the block.
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amk
So are the stoopid amurikan voters keep rewarding the rethugs for their continuing fuck america votes ?
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burnspbesq
Inside the strange mind of Antonin Scalia. What do Dred Scott, Roe, and Kelo have in common?
According to sources, Outkube boasts thousands of articles and forums carefully crafted to draw in dim-witted web users and effectively quarantine obtuse, uninformed comments on topics such as gay rights, Ryan Gosling, the threat of Sharia law in the U.S., health care reform, whether Kobe is better than LeBron, Jewish control of the government and media, the New York Jets, the Second Amendment, and professional wrestler John Cena.
Most stories on the site are reportedly preloaded with several witless and profanity-laden comments specially designed to incite retaliatory remarks.
johnson of lgf says
“Actually, there’s already a network of websites in the real world that’s a magnet for reactionaries, racists, sociopaths, and ranting loons of all stripes.
It’s known as “the right wing blogosphere.”
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Martin
@burnspbesq: They’re all cases Scalia thought could have been improved if they involved strip searching 13 year old girls?
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Nevgu
@JPL: But he runs a blog that claims to have the pulse of the people so to speak. The only thing Cole has is the pulse of a rotting corpse of some vietnam era protester.
I’m sure this blog would have been very popular….in the 70’s!
More or less. Some of you seem to think Cole has some higher access to reality because he sit’s around with his soul mate (a dog) reading the internet and cooking.
The guy doesn’t know anything more than some NY cab driver or a waitress at Dennys. Both jobs he is overqualified for I suspect.
But the BEST part. He reads Greenwald, voted for Bush twice, and thinks Libertarians have some good ideas….hahahahaha! I mean what more evidence do you need.
For those that are interested, the occupy melbourne protest got broken up (sort of) by police today.
Things did get a little nasty. This is from the newspaper that would be most likely to join in on the chorus of “they’re just dole bludging dirty dope smoking hippies”
Heartfelt condolences to your mother. Is there a reason you could pet-sit a dog but not a cat? In general I’d think a cat would be easier for your mother to deal with when she isn’t traveling. But, then again, I’m biased toward cats–and mine travels everywhere with me, so the problem doesn’t arise.
The drum circles have become an issue at Zuccotti Park, and it pains me to see this happen.
Last week, Thursday night, when the demonstrators were on the brink of eviction, a guy at the General Assembly made a convincing plea for the drummers to cool it after 5 p.m., so the neighbors could sleep. The neighbors want to support us, he said, and they have asked us to stop the drumming after dark. Some drummers objected, but when the issue was put to a vote, those present were overwhelmingly in favor of limiting the drumming.
Tough luck, say the drummers. They keep drumming and drumming, and they won’t stop. When I leave work and walk through there at 7 p.m., they’re drumming full force.
On Wednesday afternoon, during a quiet lull, I spoke to one of the drummers and asked how he felt about the “good neighbor policy.” He tuned me out and didn’t hear anything I said, then went back to his tom-tom.
I’m a gigging musician myself, and I have run into this all my life, from drummers and from electric guitar players. Some people, you can ask them nicely to turn down, and they won’t do it, and they will blast you away with volume. After all these years, I still don’t know what to do about it except leave.
So I’m sad to see this happening at Zuccotti Park. The other day, I spoke about it with a guy on the sanitation committee. He sort of rolled his eyes and said, “It’s something that we’re working on.”
Cole is not happy because he was WRONG WRONG WRONG. He did not want to do anything to Gadaffi. Like John McCain, he just wanted to make nice and point out how interesting he is.
Dey see me trollin’…
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JPL
I vented down below so I got nothing………..
hope you are feeling better
arguingwithsignposts
A thread earlier this morning inspired this ‘shop: It’s Always Sunday for John McCain.
Zam
I’m in the same boat, just woke up from a solid 5 hour nap and only am slightly better.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
I posted this earlier not knowing the thread was a death match!
I just spent the day a Ft Stewart meeting with officers, nco’s and enlisted personnel about their educational needs. These anti-immigration assholes need to spend some time with these folks before they spout off their bullshit. Really nice young people and plenty of folks with names that are not Smith.
The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik
Better Robitussin than NyQuil. We wouldn’t see you until morning if you took the Green Sleep.
Carlo
A Balloon Juice-Daily Dish convergence. Weird.
Southern Beale
My favorite Occupy sign yet…
Reminded me that the Tea Party really didn’t resonate with anyone beyond the stupid American conservative core.
cathyx
At least you didn’t have to have your gynecological exam today like I did. I think I would rather have a cold.
arguingwithsignposts
@Carlo: Sully is so full of shit. When is he changing the color of his blog to OWS colors?
Southern Beale
There must be something going around. My sister just told me she’s been in bed for 5 days.
John T
“Corporate Greed” is redundant.
General Stuck
Knew a guy that was a Robitussin junkie, a real junkie, drank the shit all day everyday. He told me once about how his car was acting funky, so he went to the used car lot and test drove a nicer car, and just kept on driving. Didn’t dawn on his he was guilty of car theft, that in his “Robo DM” laced brain, that they had simply made a straight up trade. He ended up spending a couple years in jail for that and some other exploits shitfaced from cough syrup. Stranger than fiction.
beltane
My son’s high-school band is trying to convince the school to allow them to go down to OWS for their annual band trip instead of going to a museum and Broadway musical. I think that’s pretty cool.
JPL
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Well I unloaded because a friend bitched about her sister-in-law able to use medicaid costing the government thousands of dollars. Same friend along with her husband, herself, and her elderly dad gifting the medicaid sister-in-law money for caretaking. HMMM …how does that work out. MIght be nice if you are wealthy and want to avoid taxes and then vote repub and then bitch because someone gets medicaid. For the rest of us not so much. When challenged she said she wanted to avoid to paperwork.. Much swearing occurred.
piratedan
@Carlo: Sully says that we got our bank bailout cash back… what I want to know, is that before or after they bought up all of that depressed real estate?
Redshift
@Southern Beale: Oh, definitely. I never get sick, and I spent the past week with something like a bad cold or mild flu that wasn’t too bad as long as I didn’t try to do anything. If I walked up a flight of stairs, I had to sit down for a while. Ms. Redshift has something worse (or a more severe case of the same thing) which she still hasn’t entirely recovered from.
Jenny
Osama bin LadenMuammar GaddafiRatko MladicWhitey BulgerAnwar al-AwlakiHosni MubarakBen AliDan KapankeJennifer ShillingIlyas KashmiriTerry FranconaAbu Hafs al ShahriAtiyah Abd al RahmanTheo EpsteinFazul Abdullah MohammedGoran HadzicAnthony WienerPittsburgh SteelersIt’s been a bad year for the bad guys.
beltane
@JPL: Why is it that the more money people have, the more they are prone to bitching about money?
cathyx
@Jenny: Are you from Dallas or Cleveland?
slag
Am I the only one who enjoys drum circles? I mean, sure I wouldn’t want to listen to them everyday. But every once in a while…they can be somewhat enjoyable. Especially when you get a good diverse mix of people in there.
Jenny
@beltane: Mo’Money — Mo’Problems
tkogrumpy
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Where’s the like button on this post :)
SiubhanDuinne
@cathyx:
Nothing worse than a cold speculum on a crisp fall day.
Calouste
@Jenny:
ETA (the Basque separatists) have thrown in the towel as well.
SiubhanDuinne
@beltane:
I love that!
arguingwithsignposts
@Jenny: You left out the Yankees.
SiubhanDuinne
@slag:
Well actually, I agree. But I still think the sign is classically funny.
JPL
@beltane: because.. they can.. This a person I have known for decades and we have spent decades together on xmas eve but her values do not equal mine. How you can complain about your father’s care giver taking advantage of medicaid while paying her 36,000 under the table so to speak is beyond the pale. BTW ..she sings in the choir and I haven’t stepped into a church in years but values are strange things.
JPL
@SiubhanDuinne: What are you up to.. You know we have to get together.. You want to meet up Sat. I’ll fix you breakfast or lunch. Of course you will have to be bored hearing about my remodel but what the hell.
Nevgu
Anything to distract on Libya eh Wrong On Everything Cole?!
slag
@SiubhanDuinne: OK. I’ll buy that.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
It’s not the ‘Tussin, that’s fucking hee-sterical.
Robotussin better handle it!
Nevgu
Wrong Again Cole with another one of his fluff pieces to distract from another glaring example in the news of just how bad his crystal ball. I can’t think of a better example than pointing out Cole was flailing about on how Libya would be another quagmire and today we see Gadaffi’s corpse dragged through the streets.
Hey, what do you think about “another stupid war in Libya” now Wrong Again Cole!
jwb
@slag: Drum circles, 14 hours a day, day after day, would get to be a bit much. But it’s also become a bigger issue for OWS, inasmuch as it is a test as to whether their consensus model can actually find a way to balance competing interests. Many in the occupation and the neighbors want the drummers to play less; if the drumming continues, their peace is disrupted. The drummers feel they express themselves and the power of the movement through the sound of the drums; if their drums are silenced, their right to expression is curtailed. So far attempts to reach an agreement have proved futile: the GA adopted a consensus that drumming should be restricted to two hours per day, but the drummers rebelled and simply ignored the consensus. It’s a problem rather symptomatic of the movement.
JPL
@Nevgu: Libya was a good thing and I’m sure that Cole along with lots of other folks are glad that Gaddafi is gone. Personally, I didn’t like the video of his demise but I can understand the reaction.
how do you feel about it?
beltane
My mother had to put down her 21 year-old cat today. This cat was the skittish type that made herself invisible whenever people came over, but my mother loved her and this is the first time in her life that she is catless. She’s thinking of getting a small dog so that she can bring it over to us whenever she has to travel. Any suggestions?
lamh34
This news is no surprise:
Republicans block popular piece of Obama jobs bill
cynn
Join this movement. I am the 99% or so that wakes up in a sweat wondering if I can pay my bills on time.
Redshift
@JPL: Yeah. My dad invited me again on the ski trip with his family friend that I went on last winter. The skiing is very nice, but the price is that I have to put up with a week of someone rich enough to own a chalet in Switzerland demanding an explanation for why he shouldn’t get a refund of what he paid into Medicare, since he doesn’t use it, and similar right-wing crap. (Did you know that global warming is a hoax because “hockey stick” and some guy wrote a book in the 70s about the danger of global cooling?)
It’s all I can do not to scream at him “You’re so rich you can fly around the world to the best medical clinics and pay for it all out of pocket! How can you not be grateful for that instead of whining about how you’re not allowed to take back the tiny piece that goes to help everyone who is not so fortunate?”
Sigh. As nice as it was to be there, it didn’t feel like much of a vacation.
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL:
You know what, I would love to get together this weekend and hear about your remodel. Will emaill off line.
Evolved Deep Southerner
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Brotherman! Hey, tell me how you get in and change your ‘Nym? I want to change mine slightly, but I can’t figure out how to log out of this fucker and modify it.
cathyx
@Nevgu: Why don’t you put your drive to annoy to better use and go after the 1%.
Redshift
@jwb: Ah. Drum circles
arecan be great when they’re a place you can walk away from or when you’re marching. When you’re in a restricted space and they’re inescapable, that could get old quickly.cynn
Well, lah-di-dah.
JPL
@Redshift: Well don’t do what I did..although after I hung up my friend called back..she tried to explain why unearned income shouldn’t be taxed..and for be that was the last straw. Education does not mean common sense or smarts about how things work. Sure we can make sure everyone pays at least $100.00 towards federal income taxes and Walmart sales will go down. That won’t help anyone. Assholes.
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL: check your email.
amk
So the rethugs vote against america …. yet again
beltane
@Redshift: My husband was talking to someone like this yesterday. The guy was complaining that his son, who makes $700,000 a year, was getting “hammered” by Obama. If I were there I would have suggested that this man tell his son to go get one of those $8 an hour jobs so he can know what living the good life feels like.
These people are very much like junkies. Each money fix provides them with only the most transient feelings of satisfaction and always leaves them wanting more. Maybe we should just call them money addicts and urge them to seek treatment.
SiubhanDuinne
@beltane:
I have no immediate suggestions, but I do have a big hug for your mother.
SiubhanDuinne
@amk:
It’s SUCH a surprise whenever this happens!
AA+ Bonds
@beltane:
Your husband needs to learn to call people out and you are just the person to teach him
Nevgu
@JPL: Cole is not happy because he was WRONG WRONG WRONG. He did not want to do anything to Gadaffi. Like John McCain, he just wanted to make nice and point out how interesting he is. Like any naive moron would.
Southern Beale
Can someone tell me why Gaddafi’s name is spelled a thousand different ways? Is there any other modern political figure where the global community can’t decide how to spell his or her name?
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@beltane: Aw, why stop there? Make it a crime and swap the offenders with people doing time for pot possession.
Really, putting them in jail would be a kindness. These days openly complaining about how one barely squeaks by on $X00K dollars just isn’t smart or safe.
Southern Beale
@beltane:
I know some wealthy people who say they’re getting “hammered” by Obama but what they really mean is they’re getting hammered by the economy. I’d remind these people to put on their big boy pants because until we can pull together and fix this fucking mess, NO ONE is making any money because the vast majority of consumers don’t have the money to spend.
It’s fine to whine about your taxes but if people don’t have the money to buy your widgets you’re not going to be getting any richer, either.
beltane
@SiubhanDuinne: Thank you. I will relay this to her; she will appreciate it.
@AA+ Bonds: My husband is not very quick on his feet with these things. He eventually thinks of good come-backs but it’s usually a few hours too late.
Loneoak
Another Occupy Santa Cruz post?! We’re the fucking champs on BJ.
JPL
@Southern Beale: AHH..Someone on this blog explained to me that it was the was it was translated from different languages. It’s the one name that you probably can’t spell wrong so go with it.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
@lamh34: Of course they did. So here’s my plan, which won’t do any good but will be amusing:
1. Scatter bear traps around the Capitol Building.
2. Beside each bear trap post a notice: Warning! President Democrat Liberal Hussein Obama DOES NOT want you to stick your foot in this bear trap. Really. He’ll be ever so angry.
3. Listen to the snaps and screams.
beltane
@Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen: Yes, in jail they can have free room and board and cable TV. It’s like paradise really. Being in jail is such a good life that I wonder why these conservatives aren’t protesting outside of prisons demanding to be let in.
JPL
@Nevgu: so what…people are wrong all the time. I’m sure he would admit that and is now sitting in his chair with Lily saying omg, I was wrong.. Get over it.
scav
@Southern Beale: We have entire threads on the Oxford Comma — what hope can we put in the Global Community? Hope is a good and powerful force, but transliteration and grammar may [prove] its immovable objects. (You simply would not believe the whoo-haw nations can get into over place name spellings either.)
JPL
@beltane: I am so going to use that or else demand I go to jail also,too.
Ben
@Jenny:
I think you mean Randy Hopper rather than Jennifer Shilling (she defeated Dan Kapanke)
russell
no man, it’s not the robitussin. that’s pretty freaking funny.
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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Today’s Fierce Daily Affirmation – Yes We Can Murder Whomever We Want, Whatever Age We Want, Whenever We Want, Wherever We Want.
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Redshift
@beltane: Plus, they’ll have no income, so if their investments are confiscated, they’ll join the “lucky duckies” who pay no income taxes!
Jebediah
@JPL:
Sensible advice that will probably be ignored. For whatever reason Cole has attracted a few comment-stalkers who sound like he stood them up for the prom or something – clinging to juvenile butthurt instead of finding another blog to read if they can’t stomach reading the blog of John Cole, History’s Greatest Monster EVER.
TooManyJens
@lamh34: You’d think somebody would notice that the GOP’s position is simultaneously “Get a job, parasites” and “No, we’re not going to create more jobs.”
Martin
@beltane:
I would have gone with “Fuck you asshole!” and walked away. Done it before. It feels good.
Suffern ACE
Gonna add my name to the list of folks who have the odd cold but not quite flu. Two weeks of this. I get better or feel better, but any amount of animated talking, or stress and I’m back in bed.
Warren Terra
What the late, great Molly Ivins called Our National Laboratory For Bad Government continues apace:
Sadly, the smug Boss Hogg quote at the end is from a Democratic state senator.
Frankensteinbeck
The banks suck. The stock market is horribly broken and is being abused by the finance industry as a whole. The common man is being shafted.
…but seriously, Guy On The Left, the banks actually did pay back the money. They started repaying it hand over fist the moment Obama put executive compensation limits into the requirements on a TARP loan.
Warren Terra
@beltane:
His son’s taxes haven’t been raised a penny (more’s the pity), so he can only mean the rhetorical “hammering” of the President sometimes suggesting the wealthiest among us aren’t returning to our society according to what they’ve received from it. If he thinks that’s “hammering”, boy must have been sedated from birth.
wilfred
You want funny?
“Yesterday, I described how the Obama Administration was going to charge the banks just $8 billion for immunity from a whole new swath of crimes. Shahien Nasiripour has more details which make the deal look even shittier. First, the proposed deal does appear to provide states immunity not just from robo-signing and the lies banksters made at origination, but also for their securitization errors.
“In return for getting the banks to agree to the refinancing scheme and give up higher interest income, the states would release the banks from civil claims related to loan originations, the stage at which many homeowners say they were duped by unscrupulous lenders.
Last month, state prosecutors proposed to effectively release the five big lenders from legal liability for allegedly wrongful securitisation practices related to the banks’ treatment of loan documents. Taken together, the release from liability over poor origination, securitisation, servicing and foreclosure practices could amount to an effective grant of immunity for the banks from civil claims, people familiar with the matter said.
And in exchange, the banks would pay 80% of their $25 billion penalty into a fund that the same people who botched HAMP would use to help just 1.36% of homeowners who are underwater on their homes.”
Mutatis mutandis:
http://www.emptywheel.net/
The Other Chuck
@Southern Beale:
Transliterating Arabic is imprecise as it is. “Osama” is commonly spelled “Usama” for instance, and where we say “Koran”, others spell it “Quran”. Gadaffi’s name begins with that same consonant (qaaf) as Quran, and it isn’t even precisely pronouncable in most other languages.
Libya’s own diplomatic papers spelled his name “Qatafi”. However, the North African dialect common in the region tends to pronounce it “Gadefi”, so “Gaddafi” came around as sort of a compromise. Al-Jazeera standardized on that spelling in its English reporting, and it says a lot about their increasing influence that the spelling spread to most other newspapers.
Suffern ACE
@Warren Terra: Who the heck discloses someone’s income to a stranger anyway.
singfoom
@Frankensteinbeck: They paid back TARP, that is true. But TARP was certainly not the only program that could be considered a “bailout”.
Because I’m lazy: http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/bailouttracker/
Alison
@Suffern ACE: Rich people.
fleeting expletive
I got my flu shot today. I’ve had the flu twice, once in 1957/58 when my whole family laid retching across our beds and again in l968, retching and with the worst back pain I’ve ever imagined. I haven’t gotten the shot every year, but I do think it is a good thing. I don’t want to go back there. If you have any contact with children you should get the flu shot. I am flabbergasted that the science is so good that we can keep ourselves safe from influenza, maybe imperfectly, but still. It’s a Good Thing.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@JPL:
Nevgu doesn’t have opinions that go beyond “HAHA COLE SUX ROFLCOPTER!!1!1!”
suzanne
@SiubhanDuinne:
I would rather go to the gyno a hundred times than go to the dentist once. HATE the dentist. I go every year and brush fanatically, but I just have a dentist phobia. Argh.
JGabriel
John Cole:
Duuude, Lester Bangs called. He wants to hang out with YOU.
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AA+ Bonds
I shot a flu one time
AA+ Bonds
[John, you were of course right about Libya and would have been right if they had ghosted Qaddafi in March]
fleeting expletive
Suzanne, back in the 60’s I went to a gyny who kept the speculum in a drawer with a low-wattage light bulb wired into the drawer which kept it warm. I hadn’t had any experience with gynecological exams, so I didn’t know that wasn’t standard. I’ve never encountered an exam since then that did one damn thing to warm up the speculum. Also, another pet peeve of mine: lots of gyny exam rooms have, oh say potholders covering the stirrups—-you don’t really want to look at those potholders. For the most part they are grossly dirty. There is never any pretense of, say, clean potholders for each patient. It is discouraging.
AA+ Bonds
@The Other Chuck:
I think it was more that somebody had to do something
FlipYrWhig
@beltane: Aw, best to your mom.
Elliecat
@suzanne:
hell, I’d rather have unmedicated childbirth again than have my teeth drilled.
Origuy
Fella goes to a tropical island for vacation. As he gets off the plane, off in the distance, he hears the sound of drumming. All the way to the hotel, he still hears the drums. They continue as he falls asleep and are still going as he wakes up. This goes on for a few days and finally he asks the desk clerk if the drums ever stop. The desk clerk says, “Oh,no, sir! The drums never stop! It would be very bad if the drums stop!” The man says, “Why? What would happen if the drums stop?” The desk clerk says, “Bagpipe solo!”
Mark S.
Wrong Again Cole is Wrong About Everything Again!
fleeting expletive
At the dentist’s, you can get nitrous oxide which helps a lot. My dentist has covers on their ceiling flourescent (I can’t spell, I guess) panels portraying blue skies and sweet clouds. I have been offered headphones with music and even eyescreens (I don’t know what to call them) to watch videos or something in various dentists’ offices. It all helps. But I’m not afraid of dentists. Some are good, some are great, some aren’t so hot. If your dentist scares you, he/she isn’t probably the right person for you to go to.
And I have had at least my share of dental procedures–crowns, root canals and others. It always helps to Think Of England or whatnot.
Joel
@Jenny: Theo Epstein is getting a huge contract from the Cubs. Can’t see how that’s bad for him. Also, didn’t Jennifer Shilling win the election (from Kapanake?)
2liberal
how many NFL titles has that loudmouthed fool from NYC guaranteed now? 3 in NY, and now 2 in Sd. He has jumped the shark.
John Weiss
John,
I’m glad you’re feeling better.
Wish I could say the same.
JW
Jenny
Watching The Daily Show, and even the libuerl Jon Stewart joined Dr. Rachel Maddow in hailing Obama’s Libya strategy.
{sniffle} Won’t any liberal icon stand with the Firebaggers and PUMAs in denouncing dictator Obama? {/sniffle}
Mark S.
Back in 2000, the outgoing Clinton administration issued a secret report on what would the global economic implications if the US paid off its debt. It concluded that so much economic activity was tied to the issuance of Treasury bonds that there could be some serious problems if the US had no debt. “In the end, Seligman [the economist who wrote most of the report] concluded it was a good idea to pay down the debt — but not to pay it off entirely.”
Fortunately, later that year the Supreme Court selected George W. Bush as president, and we never had to worry about this again. We really dodged a bullet there.
John Weiss
@suzanne: I fear the dentist.
I was diagnosed with periodontal disease several years ago. Incurable. But one can go to an expert and pay many bucks a month.
Bullshit.
Yutsano
@suzanne:
You should have had my old dentist. Holy shitballs he was hot.
mai naem
@beltane: My guess is that his son is making $7.00 an hour not 700,000 a year. People who make a lot of money don’t go around showing off how much they make,
Villago Delenda Est
@Suffern ACE:
In the military, what everyone is paid is totally up front and public. There are no hidden bonuses.
Cain
@beltane:
It’s understandable. I sold a bunch of shares of stock and I watched how much of it went to taxes. It’s kind of disheartening because you know you would spend more money if you could have more of it. At least that is my feeling.
I had to remind myself that is the price of being part of a just society. I felt better after that. Of course my own friends tell me that taxes need to go up in order to support this country. And I totally agree. But my own greed wants more money for me.
What can I say? I have weaknesses. :)
Joel
@Yutsano: My dentist will enter me to win an iPad if I “like” him on Facebook. I’m considering it.
Yutsano
@Joel: What’s the worst that could happen? You get a little Facebook spam & possibly the newest hot toy on the block.
amk
So are the stoopid amurikan voters keep rewarding the rethugs for their continuing fuck america votes ?
burnspbesq
Inside the strange mind of Antonin Scalia. What do Dred Scott, Roe, and Kelo have in common?
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/scalia_lumps_kelo_decision_with_dred_scott_and_roe_v._wade/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email
amk
New Decoy Website Launched To Lure Away All Moronic Internet Commenters.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-decoy-website-launched-to-lure-away-all-moroni,26393/
johnson of lgf says
“Actually, there’s already a network of websites in the real world that’s a magnet for reactionaries, racists, sociopaths, and ranting loons of all stripes.
It’s known as “the right wing blogosphere.”
Martin
@burnspbesq: They’re all cases Scalia thought could have been improved if they involved strip searching 13 year old girls?
Nevgu
@JPL: But he runs a blog that claims to have the pulse of the people so to speak. The only thing Cole has is the pulse of a rotting corpse of some vietnam era protester.
I’m sure this blog would have been very popular….in the 70’s!
Nevgu
@The prophet Nostradumbass:
More or less. Some of you seem to think Cole has some higher access to reality because he sit’s around with his soul mate (a dog) reading the internet and cooking.
The guy doesn’t know anything more than some NY cab driver or a waitress at Dennys. Both jobs he is overqualified for I suspect.
But the BEST part. He reads Greenwald, voted for Bush twice, and thinks Libertarians have some good ideas….hahahahaha! I mean what more evidence do you need.
bjacques
I’ve always assumed John was cheesing his brains out with Tunch!
(still my favorite SP episode evah!)
mr sketchy
For those that are interested, the occupy melbourne protest got broken up (sort of) by police today.
Things did get a little nasty. This is from the newspaper that would be most likely to join in on the chorus of “they’re just dole bludging dirty dope smoking hippies”
http://video.heraldsun.com.au/2157468584/Occupy-Melbourne-protest-chaos
Skepticat
@beltane:
Heartfelt condolences to your mother. Is there a reason you could pet-sit a dog but not a cat? In general I’d think a cat would be easier for your mother to deal with when she isn’t traveling. But, then again, I’m biased toward cats–and mine travels everywhere with me, so the problem doesn’t arise.
Paul in KY
@General Stuck: I think the stuff tastes nasty.
Paul in KY
@slag: I have never experienced a drum circle. Hope to someday.
Paul in KY
@beltane: How about another cat?
Paul in KY
@AA+ Bonds: Just to watch it die, I bet.
Paul in KY
@bjacques: That was one Hell of an episode! Right up there with the Cartman-fake-robot episode.
three dots
The drum circles have become an issue at Zuccotti Park, and it pains me to see this happen.
Last week, Thursday night, when the demonstrators were on the brink of eviction, a guy at the General Assembly made a convincing plea for the drummers to cool it after 5 p.m., so the neighbors could sleep. The neighbors want to support us, he said, and they have asked us to stop the drumming after dark. Some drummers objected, but when the issue was put to a vote, those present were overwhelmingly in favor of limiting the drumming.
Tough luck, say the drummers. They keep drumming and drumming, and they won’t stop. When I leave work and walk through there at 7 p.m., they’re drumming full force.
On Wednesday afternoon, during a quiet lull, I spoke to one of the drummers and asked how he felt about the “good neighbor policy.” He tuned me out and didn’t hear anything I said, then went back to his tom-tom.
I’m a gigging musician myself, and I have run into this all my life, from drummers and from electric guitar players. Some people, you can ask them nicely to turn down, and they won’t do it, and they will blast you away with volume. After all these years, I still don’t know what to do about it except leave.
So I’m sad to see this happening at Zuccotti Park. The other day, I spoke about it with a guy on the sanitation committee. He sort of rolled his eyes and said, “It’s something that we’re working on.”
Catsy
@Nevgu:
Dey see me trollin’…