Remember when Obama was inaugurated and all we heard about for months from the wingnuts and talk radio (redundant, I know) was the Fairness Doctrine and how the evil socialist President was going to bring it back. Guess not:
The FCC gave the coup de grace to the fairness doctrine Monday as the commission axed more than 80 media industry rules.
Earlier this summer FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski agreed to erase the post WWII-era rule, but the action Monday puts the last nail into the coffin for the regulation that sought to ensure discussion over the airwaves of controversial issues did not exclude any particular point of view. A broadcaster that violated the rule risked losing its license.
Speaking of wingnuts, I spent some time in a waiting room today and was subjected to a half hour of Fox news. I was blessed to hear (actually I had to read the closed captioning while watching her snarl) Malkin talk about scary Mexicans for a while, and there was a ten minute piece (I shit you not) based on nothing but the fact that Maxine Waters said the tea party can go to hell at a rally. This apparently was such a big story that they had some teahadist from some flyover state on to talk at length. I’m not sure what the name of the Fox Fembot was, but the guy was the clown who apparently confronted Obama in Iowa.
No real point to this, I guess, other than it’s just kind of shocking every time I see Fox. I avoid it like the plague and don’t even know where it is on the cable box, but every couple of months I get punished with a few minutes and it is kind of breathtaking how bad it is. I think I may have mumbled “Oh jesus fuck” a couple of times. Fortunately, Anthony Bourdain was on the other television.
Jinxtigr
…and doubtless would’ve said ‘oh jesus fuck’ right along with you :)
cleek
it really is truly amazing. they’ve given up even the pretense of being anything but a GOP advocacy group.
i suppose they figured that since ten years of critics pointing out how biased they are has had no effect on their bottom line, they might as well let their freak flag fly.
Stefan
Speaking of wingnuts, I spent some time in a waiting room today and was subjected to a half hour of Fox news.
I do not put up with this. If I’m in a public place (bar, restaurant, gym, waiting room, whatever) and Fox News is on, I very loudly and assertively ask that the channel be changed. If they don’t, I take my money elsewhere, and let them know very very clearly why I won’t be coming back.
Villago Delenda Est
If there was a fairness doctrine in place, Faux Nooze as we know it would cease to exist.
JMG
It’s just thrill porn for crabby old white people (median age Fox viewer is 65) who’re frightened and angry that the world has changed and that they’re gonna die soon and the world will keep changing.
Stefan
To be fair, most of the time when I ask, they change the channel. But a few times I’ve had to quick up a bit of a fuss.
Spork
I get to watch Fox at work which shows it on the cafeteria TV. It appears to be mostly advertisements for gold.
schrodinger's cat
John Cole@ top
Did you hate Fox even when you were a Republican?
wrb
Isn’t the FCC board still controlled by Bush appointees? It was not long ago but I’m not up to date.
Like the Fed, the FCC isn’t easy for a new president to influence.
international mikey
Same here John – I never, ever watch, but every now and then I get brief exposure when I’m visiting in my 80 year old neighbor’s garage (he has TV’s everywhere) or house. It IS breathtakingly bad, inaccurate and BIASED! The crap they talk about is insane – they were going on and on last week about the President’s bus, vacation, travel, etc. This President of course is the ONLY President who’s ever gone on vacation and I guess he doesn’t require any security. It’s not like he’ll be keeping the bus after he leaves office. They put out an incredible amount of bullshit. I really hope the whole British thing bleeds over here and takes this crap machine down once and for all…..
AnotherBruce
This is too bad, it’s hard to argue that the “unfairness doctrine” has led to any good results. It does have the advantage of dovetailing nicely with media consolidation in ensuring that only a narrow spectrum of conventional ideas, mainly right wing ones, are broadcast.
schrodinger's cat
Fox News and Political Cable TV in general, is to be avoided.
I find Teletubbies more amusing and informative than Punditubbies.
Clambone
We have Fox News on all the time in the break room at work. The other day, I walked by, and there was a news story about the greatest threat the environment has ever faced: wind power.
Seriously, why do conservatives pretend to give a shit about wildlife when it comes to wind power? Who do they think they’re fooling?
Bubblegum Tate
We joke a lot about Fox News being an alternate universe, but it really does describe and inhabit a world that is extremely different from reality.
KG
@schrodinger’s cat: Yeah, I actively try to avoid all the bobble head stations. I use to watch them regularly but I find I am better off for ignoring them and sticking to three or four blogs (as opposed to the 40-50 I read regularly at one point).
JGabriel
@Spork:
There should be a law against that, unless you actually work for Fox or as a media monitor. No one should be forced to put up with extremist far-right propaganda just to keep their job.
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ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@Stefan:
Ditto that. We have to be our own grassroots Fairness Doctrine. Just today at lunch I objected to the local wingnut radio station being on at my favorite weekday mom-and-pop eating-hole. I’m a very loyal customer of theirs (and tip more than decently) so I didn’t have to be nasty about it. I just calmly stated to the owners that I’d prefer to eat my lunch without having to listen to hatred and extremism on the radio and that if they really want to keep that station on they certainly have that right but unfortunately I wouldn’t be coming back again. They changed the channel in a hurry and graciously apologised.
For a lot of folks, Fox on the TV and Right wing AM talk radio is just the default option, but they don’t really think about it, it is just on, just because. We can take that in silence (and reap the consequences) or we can do something about it. It is long past time that we worked diligently at creating a social atmosphere where political extremism is not normal and is not socially acceptable amongst company, polite or otherwise. But to do so it helps a lot if you’ve first built solid relationships with the people you are taking your complaints to.
kd bart
I was in a doctor’s waiting room last week and got stuck with Fox News for about 10 minutes. I swear my IQ dropped so many points during those minutes that I was barely able to fill out some forms and sign my name.
schrodinger's cat
@KG: Same here, though I confess I have always avoided Fox, CNN was my go to channel in the 90s and more recently it was MSNBC, right now it Tunch Channel on Balloon Juice. News served with pointy ends.
Regular Reader
“…there was a ten minute piece (I shit you not) based on nothing but the fact that Maxine Waters said the tea party can go to hell at a rally.”
You bet she did – in fact, it earned her a coveted Moore Award from you-know-who:
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/moore-award-nominee-1.html
schrodinger's cat
@Regular Reader: Isn’t he on vacation?
trollhattan
Of the many beneficial services brought to us by Jon Stewart and his
research staffsuffering sods who have to watch tivo’d news all day, the most important is their relentless dragging of Fox into the daylight for decent and sane people to view and find themselves repulsed by.They’ll keep damaging our nation until we hit them with a large enough hammer.
Villago Delenda Est
Oh, btw, John, nice Utopia reference in the thread title. Keep it up!
Bulworth
I was wondering how Faux would cover the Libyan story.
DonkeyKong
To quote a good friend of mine.
“George Wallace isnt dead, he lives in your TV!”
Halteclere
I think it was Doug J who suggested a thread every few days on the latest right-wing memes.
The Fairness Doctrine scare was good times when Obama was elected. So was the fear that guns and ammo would be outlawed. Now the meme (at least with my father-in-law) is fear of runaway inflation and the (still) fear of plague-carrying illegal immigrants.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
yeah yeah, but i am getting gold, delivered to my door, i put it on my amex blackity black card.
i am putting obama derangement syndrome to work for me.
acallidryas
@Stefan
Definitely best to ask that the channel be changed. My Dad got it taken off the default rotation at his gym. He argued that he had to go the gym for their cardiovascular program (they were one of the therapy groups his insurance would cover) after his heart attack, and having to watch Fox news placed him at great risk of another attack, and undid all the work of his exercise routine.
Regular Reader
@schrodinger’s cat:
Yes, technically it was by interim blogger Chris Bodenner. (And technically, it was only a nomination). But it’s still Sullivan’s blog.
Zifnab
There was a day and age when a womanizing druggy blue-collar-chef-turned-millionaire businessman would have been the quintessential Republican everyone loved. :-p Now people are too busy watching Megyn Kelly screech about taxes to enjoy the real pleasures cable television has to offer.
Halteclere
My father, who owns a construction company, has a neighbor recently approach him to perform some work. The neighbor wanted to pay in gold bullion. My dad declined.
The Dangerman
That was nuthin’; I watched some FOX Analyst/Asshole (Wayne Simmons was his name, IIRC) say that Kadaffi going down was horrible for America, how Obama was naive to think that anyone other than Kadaffi was bad for America, that Bush had him “in a box” (his words) and now that box is no longer a box and Obama screwed up Bush’s glorious work (my paraphrasing), and other nonsensical shit about how Obama is leading us to disaster.
Ya gotta wonder if even their audience is going WTF, since when is FOX the pro-Kaddafi network?
PhoenixRising
Cole, you may have been injured by stupidity from the TV today, but there is hope. Get yourself one of these doodads and experience peace in public spaces.
My kid has hearing loss and she’s getting her own for the next holiday occasion. It’s made a difference in whether she can participate in the conversation when we’re out and about, and I’ve noticed a positive effect on my blood pressure as well. Never, ever has anyone complained that the roar of the TV disappeared. Jiffy Lube doesn’t know why they like me so much, but every 2990 miles I turn off their TV and it sometimes stays that way for days.
gelfling545
@Stefan: Same here. The dealership that sold me my car is, in general pretty good but I was in for routine maintenance & was subjected to the 700 CLub in the waiting room (it was winter & too cold to go outside to escape.) This is the dealership from a maker that polls its customers regularly on customer service & I gave them the benefit of my thoughts on the subject of subjecting paying customers to someone’s idea of religion. I got a bunch of coupons for free stuff & that has never happened again.
Ruckus
@cleek:
anything but a GOP advocacy group
I believe you wanted to say wingnut advocacy group but realized like John that GOP and wingnut are interchangeable.
@Clambone:
Seriously, why do conservatives pretend to give a shit about wildlife when it comes to wind power? Who do they think they’re fooling?
They may be mad that the turbines make it harder for them to hunt like good ‘merkins.
Elizabelle
@schrodinger’s cat:
Punditubbies.
Love it.
Joel
@Zifnab: Bourdain is too much of an anti-war DFH and internationalist for republican palate.
B W Smith
@Regular Reader: Well, not from “you know who” but one of his minions. Mr. Sullivan is on another vacation. I have multiple relatives who are also facebook friends and proud members of the Tea Party. I awoke this morning to at least three posts regarding Maxine’s impolite statement. These are the most thin-skinned, perpetual victims I have ever known. That condition is nurtured by Fox News and talk radio. Most of these folks don’t even realize how much they have embraced victimization. It has simply become their way of life.
Edit: I see someone else has pointed out that Sully is on vacation. A Moore award is a stretch for this one.
schrodinger's cat
@Regular Reader:Andrew Sullivan is a pretentious British twit, what’s with all these stupid awards, did David Broder make him the king of the Village when he died?
Stefan
@acallidryas:
It’s not the default at my gym, but when I was there last week someone turned it on on one of the TVs in the free weight room. As soon as I noticed it, I very politely but clearly asked him to switch channels to anything but that. He did, but said “hey, it’s just news” to which I responded “no, it’s Fox News. It’s propaganda, not real news.”
It was slightly uncomfortable, of course, but I made my point to everyone else listening. You have to stand up for yourself every time you’re subjected to this hate media.
Paris
Well,that’s the end of socialist radio, I guess. Long live the proletariot!!!
OT: I saw Steve Earle last night. What a great talent and performer, and what a great pinko commie!
Stefan
@The Dangerman:
You forgot — we have always been at war with Eurasia.
schrodinger's cat
@Elizabelle: Thanks! Punditubbies: Gibberish without the cute.
JPL
@efgoldman: You would not be picked. I was called and they asked three or four questions on viewing habits and said they would get back to me… Yeah I’m still waiting.
JPL
@schrodinger’s cat: I hope that Cole is still doing his yearly awards for quips. Right now I’d vote for you.
Bob
When Fox is on in a public space, restaurant, I bitch, no, make that BITCH, to the powers that be.
askew
@Halteclere:
Seriously? That is hysterical and bizarre.
Kirbster
I hope that the proliferation of annoying TV noise in every public space prompts more people to build and deploy TV-B-Gone units.
Oops! Phoenix Rising beat me to it!
Culture of Truth
Fox had to walk a fine line last night – celebrate what happened, but emphasize it will probably all go to hell; acknowledge Qaddafi was a bad guy while reminding everyone it was really the French and not Obama and the rebels are crazy Muslims anyway, so there.
Zam
Seriously where the fuck do all you people live? There are very few tv’s in the waiting rooms I’ve been in my life and I don’t think I’ve ever seen one on a news channel other than Headline news. And talk radio in diners and bars? What the fuck! I’ve never had to be subjected to that other than from co-workers persona radios.
schrodinger's cat
@JPL: Oh Thanks JPL! I am honored.
Derf
I do not patronize ANY establishment that plays Faux News. Full stop. Fortunately, that is not a problem in Canada. It’s on some mid double or triple digit channel and nobody watches it anyways as far as I know. Don’t see it much in the US NW either.
Culture of Truth
@Halteclere: But gold is so valuable now!!
schrodinger's cat
@efgoldman: You forgot the cheese eating part.
RareSanity
I used to try to drop in on Fox , or a few minutes of Boortz/Hannity, you know, for science. I have never been able to listen to Limbaugh for more than 15 seconds.
But, I can’t even do that anymore. All it does is chip away at the conventional wisdom that, “for the most part, Americans are pretty smart”, and further erode my faith in humanity.
The fact that people not only watch/listen to that tripe, but will eagerly parrot every talking point they hear, has gone past dumb to downright depressing.
Stefan
@B W Smith:
Mr. Sullivan is on another vacation.
Didn’t he just get back from one? How many vacations can one man take?
Maybe while he’s on this break he can exert himself for five minutes to send in another screed about how me have to raise the retirement age and force manual laborers to work until they’re 70….
Elizabelle
May the banksters be looking at their day in court.
Goldman’s Shares Tumble as Blankfein Hires Lawyer
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/22/goldmans-shares-tumble-as-blankfein-hires-lawyer/?hp
birthmarker
Fox News playing in public spaces has been getting hashed over at GOS a bit lately. Personally, I politely ask that the channel be changed. I politely state why. (The Glenn Beck Obama/racist comment made a great reason there for a while, esp. since I live in a part of the country with a high AA population.)
If we don’t complain how do we ever expect it to change?
Halteclere
@Culture of Truth
Can you just take a lump of gold to the bank and deposit it? Who wants to figure out the exchange rate of gold the day the contract is signed, what it will be worth when the job is complete and payment occurs, and how much the transaction charge will be for converting it to usable money?
No One of Consequence
@Stefan: A-men. Has worked for me so far. My running count is 1 doctor office, one dentist office, a car dealership, 3 bars and 2 restaurants.
Culture of Truth
don’t bother me with mere trifles
ornery
People give themselves WAY too much credit for being able to resist the mechanics of propaganda. We did go into Iraq, and we know it was sold through lies, yes? As we sit on our collective butts without ready means of unified action … well, you see, propaganda works all too well. It bypasses logic and goes straight to your gut.
The Fairness Doctrine was put in place after WWII, when the Rightwing fascists of Europe used corporate-owned mass media to corrupt the minds of the populace and destroy society from the ground up. And we did have an era of peace and prosperity.
The doctrine is (sorry, was) an anti-propaganda measure, and surely the last 25 years since removing it has shown that *something* is going desperately wrong in our nation. Softened by the long-game propaganda from Think Tanks, we applaud or shrug the final loss of our only protection from force-fed misdirection and rhetoric. We are exposed babes on a hill to corporate Think-Tank talking points without an alternate viewpoint.
I wonder if we just might see what this nation would look like had the Germans won after all. The joke is on us: Propaganda works; I wonder if in a few years time Liberals will be understood to have started WWII, and corporate-led right-wing Conservatives will be “known” to have fought the liberal Hitler to establish American way of life. As we the consumers Bless our producer Corporations for giving us life, peace, health and a closet safe from radiation and toxic air.
The American Experiment just changed parameters; I hope it’s not true this was the last impediment to the final corporate solution to our pesky commons.
Perhaps, if this is the best we can do to honor our recent horrific past … it is deserved too.
Citizen Alan
I’ve repeatedly asked people in doctors offices and the like to change the channel off of Faux. The only person who declined was a chirpractor who thought Glenn Beck was awesome. I stopped seeing him.
TooManyJens
Is this really a relevant story (other than to tweak the conspiracy theorists, of course, which is a fine thing)? It seems that they took a bunch of regulations off the books which were either outdated or unenforceable due to having been struck down by the courts.
Of course, it would be nice if instead of just saying, “Genachowski said xyz in a statement,” Politico would actually provide a link to the statement so we could easily check for ourselves, but fuck it, it’s Politico.
Svensker
@The Dangerman:
Qaddafi got rehabilitated during Bush II — friend of Berlusconi, forgiven for blowing shit up in his youth, enablers of the neocons, etc.
Caz
God forbid you watch any news that doesn’t have a liberal slant to it. Did it ever occur to you that the reason you’re so brainwashed and out of touch is because you avoid Fox News like the plague?? Of course not, lol. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
TooManyJens
@Caz: Better trolls, please.
Svensker
@Caz:
Actually, until we moved to Canada, I listened to Fox every day — in fact, it was pretty much the only “news” TV we watched. Didn’t stop us from realizing nearly every word they said was a lie, including “and” and “the.”
The wingers tried to get a “fox-clone” station in Canada but so far have been unable to, since Canadian law forbids news stations from deliberately lying. Harper’s trying to get that inconvenient law set aside for his propagandist friends.
PurpleGirl
@Halteclere: The thing is you’d have to have it weighed — with a special scale — before putting in a safety deposit box. Hope that the price of gold doesn’t go down while you wait for the job to be done. Then when the job was down, have it weighed again to make sure nothing happened while it was the deposit box. I don’t know how to handle the situation if the piece of gold is heavier than what is needed to cover the cost of the job.
Like everything else, gold can go down. There is no such thing as going up forever.
TooManyJens
@Svensker:
I marvel at people who can do this without having a stroke. There’s a medical research grant in there somewhere.
Svensker
@TooManyJens:
Yeah, tell me about it. My hub insisted on watching it every morning. But at least it got me up and running: who needs coffee when your blood pressure is spiking at 300/150? Also, lots of yelling and cuss words. I’m much mellower these days…:)
pk
I wonder what will happen to Fox once Roger Ailes dies. It’s a wonder why Ailes and Limbaugh haven’t copped it by now. Both are morbidly obese and coronaries waiting to happen.
Woodrowfan
Fox news is my default intelligence test. if you believe Fox, you fail the test.
Carol
@ornery: But how do you enforce such a Doctrine in a multi-media universe? Back when the Fairness Doctrine was applicable, there was only 3 major networks, a few AM radio stations compared to now, and that was that. Between the Internet and FM, internet radio, satellite radio, and cable, who can even monitor for fairness anymore?
One reason why Fox and rightwing radio dominates so many places of business is that it’s really the only thing that can be played without running into issues with BMI and ASCAP and the like, and it’s free, unlike the services that provide “elevator music” to stores. Talk requires no royalties.
So complain about FOX, but start pushing for local liberal alternatives-or a Radio Creative Commons that stores can play instead.
wrb
Even with this economy I think Obama would take those fools running against him, if it weren’t for the incessant dispiriting lies from those, dishones, lazy or stupid self-involved people who who claim to be to his left. I think it will be Arianna, Jane and the Janettes, and the rest of the daddybaggers, including those who post here that will provide the margin that turns the country over to the plutocrats and war porn addicts for good.
The evil that spreads from them is terrifying in both its banality and its grandeur.
Will a historian say, “The world was fucked here, by them?”
jwb
Whenever I enter a business with Fox on, I ask them to change the channel. If they refuse, I look for somewhere else to take my business and let them know I won’t do business with someone who makes me watch that shit, even if only for a couple of minutes.
Carol
But given what I have said, just what is the substitute for a mostly right-wing talk universe for a business that doesn’t just want silence all day long? We need to offer an entertaining alternative to Fox for people to play at work.
Arundel
Ugh, Sully’s minions seem to get power-drunk when he’s away on yet another vacation. His “awards” are asinine enough when he does it, somehow even worse coming from his flying monkeys.
A Child’s Mem’ry of The Fairness Doctrine Perhaps: When I was a very young kid in early 70’s NYC, I seem to recall local TV (WPIX/WWOR) stations would air “rebuttal/Counterpoint” things, brief segments in the afternoons. Like, opposing op-eds. I was barely first grade, wanting to get back to Batman or Gilligan reruns, and there would be some old man droning about zoning or Vietnam. The segments couldn’t have been more than a few minutes each, but to a tyke they seemed forever. I hated them, but weirdly I do recall that in every case, the boring old man on my TV was specifically objecting to something someone else had said, probably on the same station at some point.
In adult retrospect, I am thinking that these interstitial segments were the result of the Fairness Doctrine being taken seriously as law (imagine that). I’m also noting that they aired them in early afternoons, where no voter with a dayjob would see them, just impatient kids like myself. Hm.
Does anyone else recall these sorts of “Counterpoint” things, editorials sandwiched between reruns? Hopefully people who were adults then, who could explain. Sort of unimaginable now. Channeling Pete Campbell from Mad Men, “A thing like that!” , meant in wonder.
Mr Stagger Lee
@efgoldman: Fox now has the UFC broadcast rights.
Morgan Warstler
@Stefan: You have money?
Another face in the crowd
Regarding Fox, on top of all the bull$—you would think they’d invest in a proof reader for their recap at the bottom of the screen. If you’re going to pump spew, at least spell it right. Fairness doctrine? Why bother. My best take away from Levine is when he gets worked up it sounds like someone is standing on his nuts. And Beck talking about the “countless numbers” of people treated the hospital after the racially motivated ruckus at the Wisconsin State Fair. (Sadly, it was race-driven, but “countless numbers” = about 10, if reported correctly.) Outside of the wingnuttery, wonderful entertainment value…
TRNC
I laughed when I first read about the fake fairness doctrine controversy after the election. If repubs actually thought the media was liberal, they would have begged for the fairness doctrine. Once again, it’s clear they have no more belief in their target audience’s ability to think for themselves than we do.
just_passing_through
The reason conservative media outlets made a big to-do out of a Democrat elected public official spewing hateful and uncivil rhetoric is because conservatives and Tea Partiers had been lectured ad nauseam by Democrat leaders and media to be more civil. They were even accused of provoking an assassination attempt of a congresswoman (which was nonsense).
Since the Democrats had an orchestrated, massive, and despicable propaganda campaign designed to try and bully people into silence and submission (even going so far as trying to demonize such ordinary rhetoric as “we’re targeting these congressional seats in the next election”), Fox as the conservative channel seeks to “balance” that by highlighting the extreme hypocrisy.
Anyway, I just was skimming the thread to see if any comments mentioned, for example, the hardcore partisanship of MSNBC. MSNBC got one mention in this thread, and it was a positive one.
It’s okay if you dislike Fox News. It’s only one channel on the dial. But you don’t demonstrate that you’re advocates of higher standards when you’re wildly obsessed with attacking one channel, the channel that happens to give the most airtime to people who disagree with your politics, and stand in silent approval of, say, MSNBC. All your’re really revealing is that you have trouble tolerating a world where people are allowed to have different points of view.
Let’s hear some more stories about how you little ideologues march out through the community to berate anyone who dares to have a channel on that’s saying things you disagree with.
marginalized for stating documented facts
I honestly do not understand why the Demos don’t make it their Number One goal to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
I mean, not only would it cripple the neocon lie machine, but it would also kill off all those damn infomercials on TV. Two for the price of one!
Too Many Jimpersons (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.)
I’ve been in a waiting room when Fox was playing. I went up to the desk and asked them to turn it off. I’ll be damned if I’m going to sit there and have that shit wash all over me. They switched it off.
I don’t get why doctors have televisions playing in their waiting rooms at all. I seldom see anybody ever really watching them; it’s just kind of droning on in the background, and it makes it hard to read. Doctors should just dump the damned televisions and stock up on more and better and up to date magazines. And patients need to bring their own books. Never go to the doctor without something you want to read. And when the television makes it too hard to read, go up and ask them to switch the damned thing off.
Mnemosyne
@just_passing_through:
You may want to doublecheck Joe Scarborough’s political affiliation before you start claiming that MSNBC is a clone of Fox News. Or does a former Democratic congressman have a three-hour timeslot on Fox every morning that we all somehow missed?
Jebediah
@Paris:
Synchrodippity or something – my Pandora was playing him (“Another Town”) as I read your comment. Love Steve Earle!
Jebediah
@just_passing_through:
Just passing through? Feel free to keep on moving, then, you dishonest dipshit.
Susan
About FOX being on the tv. I was at the physical therapist the other day on the bicycle. They had FOX on. I quietly called over the PT aide and told her, you do realize that FOX isn’t real news, don’t you?
She wasn’t political, so she didn’t.
I said, “It’s pure propaganda and most of what they say isn’t factual.”
“I had no idea,” She said.
I did not ask her to turn it although I’m sure I could have. I was the only one there, but the next time I went back CNN was on.
I usually always ask businesses to turn FOX. And they usually do.
Chet
@efgoldman: Fortunately, it’s been a decade or more since I stopped giving a shit about the NFL, so there’s no problem for me there.
As for MLB, I can’t stand Buck, McCarver, and company regardless of what network they’re on, so when October comes I just listen to the radio broadcasts of the games while doing stuff online. Baseball’s really a much better radio sport anyway, IMO.