Now that David Gregory has given questions about teh ghey and their satanic nature the beltway imprimatur, I hope we see this every fucking day and twice on the Lord’s day. And let’s ask the other candidates their opinion on choice Bachmann quotes like these:
REP. BACHMANN: It’s a very sad life. It’s part of Satan, I think, to say that this is gay. It’s anything but gay. … It leads to the personal enslavement of individuals. Because if you’re involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it’s bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair, and personal enslavement. And that’s why this is so dangerous. … We need to have profound compassion for people who are dealing with the very real issue of sexual dysfunction in their life and sexual identity disorders.
MR. GREGORY: Do you think that gay Americans hearing quotes like that from you would think that that’s, that’s honor and dignity coming from you about their circumstance?
REP. BACHMANN: I am not anyone’s judge…
MR. GREGORY: Right.
REP. BACHMANN: …and I’m not standing in as anyone’s judge.
Now that the economy is in the toilet, Republicans don’t want or need social issue distractions, but that’s too bad, because you can’t go cold turkey on that crack.
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Kobie
Judge not, until ye judge.
That’s in the Bible, amirite?
4tehlulz
Obviously, this means the establishment has thrown its weight behind Ron Paul.
Baud
I don’t know how anyone could think “It’s part of Satan” is judgmental.
4tehlulz
Yes we are aware of your relationship with your husband.
Comrade Javamanphil
Bachmann suffers from severe mental retardation and narcissism. But I am not one to judge.
Poopyman
Don’t be too sure about that. None of the candidates have a decent solution to the economy, and it’s so much easier to rile the base with social issues.
Low hanging fruit and all that.
JohnR
I don’t agree – one thing that the GOP has proved to be very, very good at is the use of highly specific, targeted issues. Free markets for the lords of finance in their airy mansions, gay-bashing for the troglodytes in their caves of stone, welfarequeens for the racists in their bleached white sheets, and greed for the candidate on his Party Platform. One issue that rules them all – greed is the source of the envy, hate and fear that make up the party platform of the GOP. Love of money and all that – there’s a lot of truth in the Bible; those guys who compiled it knew their human nature.
eric
@Baud: dude, such ignorance. Satan is a butch hockey player. She is saying teh gheys are tough, not that they are evil. sheesh.
jrg
Now would be a great time for the MSM to remind us all of the secular, libertarian nature of the Tea Party.
They’re small government for realz this time. Seriously. For realz.
Kobie
@JohnR: Shit, the only reason those fuckers got people to come out and “vote” for Bush in 2004 in Ohio was because they put some anti-gay marriage legislation on the docket as well. The GOP is all about wedge issues. It’s all they’ve got. They certainly can’t run on policy. They’d lose every time.
Kobie
@jrg: I have this discussion all the time on the cesspools I frequent. One post will be “The Tea Party has no interest in social issues,” followed closely by “homo marriage is evil.”
Xtian nutjobs rebranded.
JGabriel
mistermix:
Because fascists never resort to social issue demagoguery when the economy is in the toilet.
Wait … maybe that assertion needs a rethink.
.
John Puma
No, the Bachmann’s do not JUDGE gays but, even worse, use them as profit centers for their fantasy psychological treatments … financed by federal dollars.
mistermix
I hear what some of you are saying about Republicans using social issues, but this particular social issue cuts against them. Setting aside gay marriage, simple acceptance of homosexuals as human beings rather than spawn of satan is pretty well settled (I’m too lazy to look up a poll, but it’s got to be 70/30) and there’s no upside for Republicans in dragging this question into their debates, since they’re trying to win a national election, not the presidency of a bible believing church.
NonyNony
@mistermix:
Once we get to the general election, sure.
But don’t discount that race for the presidency of the bible believing church and it’s impact on the primaries.
The Other Bob
In response to Bachmann’s support of DADT, a commenter at Bob Cesca made the following crack that deserves repeating:
suzanne
I’m not politically astute enough to know whether or not this is good news for John McCain or not. I mean, it seems to me that her PRAY TEH GHEY AWAY stance could only alienate parts of her base rather than expand it. I mean, the Talibangelicals are already onboard the U.S.S. Submission Means Respect, so who is she looking to attract here?
danimal
The GOP is losing on social issues, but can’t run away from them without losing their base. It’s a terrible predicament for them, and we should extend our sympathies to these brave public servants sacrificing themselves for our benefit.
gnomedad
@Baud:
She feels their
painpossession.danimal
@mistermix:
There’s a difference?
Special Patrol Group
That woman is an idiot.
Nice to see the “Is a gay couple with children a family?” asked. Other question which would be nice to see: “Yes or no: Is it OK to be gay?” (Correct answer is “yes”.)
Dan
She doesn’t judge the gays, she marries them.
Omnes Omnibus
@Special Patrol Group:
One may as well ask if it okay to be left-handed.
Kobie
@suzanne: She’s pulling for the ones who still think the Pizza Man is a shrewd businessman, and setting up the barricades for the inevitable Rick Perry onslaught.
Kobie
Am I the only one who thinks flaming her husband for being “gayish” kinda goes against what we stand for when it comes to gay acceptance?
LosGatosCA
It is personal bondage, personal despair, and personal enslavement.
She does the dirty talk good, better dogwhistling to the Marquis de Sade bloc there never was.
kay
Just to document how far the crazy has come since 2008.
Here’s their last pick:
And here’s the compulsive liar they’re following now:
Wow. In four short years. From Right wing to fringe.
I looked over the rest of the transcript. Palin was never called on her lies, and Bachmann has apparently adopted the same playbook. Just lie after lie after lie.
Tonybrown74
@Kobie:
When said husband is a peddler of the snake oil that is “Pray the Gay Away” and so-called reparative therapy, which has destroyed many a gay life, and profiting from it?
Then no, it does not.
If you choose to use my sexuality and my mannerism against me, I will return the favor tenfold.
Kobie
@Tonybrown74: I’m not talking about the general sentiment regarding his mannerisms, I’m just referring to some of the words used. I’m certainly not concern trolling, I just think some of the language is bordering on homophobic, even if it’s just being used for comedic effect.
Kobie
And yes, I’m a guy who gets queasy about using the word “nigger” even if it’s to lampoon obvious racists.
bago
@Kobie: If the judges ever show up, it would be fabulous. I can’t imagine a lady devil ever approving of such a thing. At least any lady worth a damn.
Derf
Sigh….so has this become the all Bachmann all the time blog now….sigh. And here I thought the new Perry shiny object would distract you spewmasters at least for a few days.
bago
Premise. Remember the premise.
Yep, trying to make jokes at 7 AM.
Special Patrol Group
Indeed. Looks like it may come to that.
The Tim Channel
@Kobie:
It’s always open season on closeted bigots.
The thugs have gnarled up healthcare.
They’ve gnarled up the economy.
Now they want to get busy undoing all that gay love Obama spread about.
Enjoy.
Villago Delenda Est
@mistermix:
It may cut against them here in the real world, but remember: they don’t inhabit the real world. They’re in Jeebusfantasyland.
The Tim Channel
@Special Patrol Group:
I got an idea. Let’s pit the brown eyed kids against the blue eyed ones!!
Enjoy.
The Tim Channel
@Derf:
Don’t despair. I doubt the Bachmann phenomena will last very long. In the meantime, why not milk it for all it’s worth? The Republicans certainly aren’t up for any governing, so we ought to at least get to enjoy the circus freak show they’re putting on for the world to see.
Enjoy.
The Worst Person In the World
I’m All Gay All the Time too, just like Michelle’s husband…
…ooops, sorry, gotta run; time for the weekly Monday Morning Gay Agenda conference call. Satan herself is facilitating this week!
Villago Delenda Est
@Kobie:
Ahem.
The word is ni*CLANG*, or “near”.
“The sheriff’s a ni*CLANG*!”
“What did he say”
“I think he said the sheriff is near!”
Derf
@The Tim Channel: I don’t see Bachmann as a freak show. She is a symptom of people like this blog poster who just can’t get enough of her. That’s the real tragedy here.
Villago Delenda Est
@The Worst Person In the World:
So, the Devil DOES wear Prada!
frapalinger
Note that Greggers attempted to legitimize Perry’s secession talk. The “liberal” media will delve deep into Bachmann’s crazy because they know she’ll never win, but another governor from Tejas – they’ll paper over any drunk driving records, abortion receipts, insane passages from his own little ‘mein kampf,’ overt racism, and nostalgia for antebellum dixie. The media helped Bush throughout his entire presidency, either by covering up his shady past, using his talking points (enhanced interrogation), or repeating and refusing to investigate his lies regarding the wars. They will do everything in their power to get us another Texan twit in the white house.
Tonybrown74
@Kobie:
I understand what you are saying.
However, sometimes that kind or brutal “realness” is needed to bring the point home. It would be like me (also black) listening to Uncle Remus berate me using racist stereotypes, and my response being, “Nigger, are you for real??”
It brings the point home in a brutal, but necessary, way.
Roger Moore
@Derf:
FTFY.
Jay in Oregon
@4tehlulz:
Is it time to post the link to the Christian Domestic Discipline site again already?
http://www.christiandd.com/
(This should make the site ads go wonky…)
canuckistani
Bachmann and her husband remind me of a Doonesbury strip I saw many years ago, which goes roughly like this:
Frame 1: Pollster: Has your attitude changed about blacks in the past 5 years?
Frame 2: Woman: Yes! I used to think well of them, but now I think they’re lazy, shiftless and irresponsible
Frame 3: Pipe smoking black man in shirt and tie enters frame: Who is it, honey?
Woman: Nobody! Finish the dishes!
ThresherK
@John Puma: I’m reminded of this Monty Python sketch, where Michael Palin (as the host) says “We don’t morally censure you, we just want your money.”
Derf
@Roger Moore: Thanks for being such a
followerobesssive fangroupie of mine. Can always count on you.It is people like you who make it all worthwhile and inspire me to do even more.
Canuckistani Tom
So Obama repeals DADT, and the forces come out of the closet. Bachmann recreates DADT, but you can’t put a person back in the closet, so you end up with a large wave of people being kicked out of the forces, people who loved their country enough to bury their own long term desires for love and companionship so they could serve.
Am I the only one who thinks that its a really bad idea to treat people like this, especially those who are trained to put a bullet between the eyes of someone 1 kilometer away?
grandpajohn
@Special Patrol Group: Well I certainly hope so, it has been for the last 74 years of my life.
Ian
Sounds so fun that it has to be a sin
Enhanced Voting Techniques
You you know that sounds like a confession her and her NOT gay husband are into kinky sex.
benintn
I think it’s time for the Bachmanns to release a sex tape so we can get proof that they are not in bondage to sexual dysfunction.
Hal
Can someone explain to me how Bachmann can “reinstate” DADT? If a law is overturned by Congress, wouldn’t Congress have to pass another version of DADT?
Suffern ACE
@Hal: I’m guessing this current crop wouldn’t reinstate DADT. It would be something more like “Seek and tattle.” I would expect to find government funds sent to “counselors” to help these satanic souls.
gex
@Kobie: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/07/14/marcus-bachmanns-big-problem
If he were out and not pretending to be straight and not pretending to fix gays, he wouldn’t be getting shit. Pointing out how gay he is is how we are underscoring the fact that he’s a fucking hypocrite.
The Worst Person In the World
@gex:
Especially when he’s fucking Michelle!
tee hee
Brachiator
@mistermix:
Bachmann isn’t looking at a poll here. She couldn’t care less about a poll. She and the entire Tea Party Movement and its offshoots is seeking to energize one group of voters and to demoralize another. As the recent New Yorker profile suggested, Bachmann and her crew believe that much of human history since the Renaissance has been a huge error, making humans and not some fuzzy deity the center of the universe.
And pay attention to the implications of Bachmann’s statement here.
This is very precise and is pitched to religious conservatives. Bachmann is not being compassionate. She doesn’t have to judge because she presumes that the Deity is going to judge gays harshly.
Yeah, this stuff if nutty, but it dovetails with something that may be more palatable to some voters, namely the idea that if you return to a supposedly simpler time in which white people clearly rule, and if a simplistic religious based morality is strictly enforced, then America can be great again.
For these people, the social vision goes hand in hand with any economic policy.
@danimal:
That’s odd. I could swear I see Republican governors all over the place rolling back women’s rights, passing laws that enshrine bigotry, wrecking the educational system. I see national GOP figures uttering the most outrageous racist and homophobic nonsense, and just getting a shrug from the mainstream media.
And you call this “losing?”
AxelFoley
@Derf:
Says all we need to know about you.
Derf
@AxelFoley: Really? Please explain. Preferably with some charts and graphs. Kinda like this.
https://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/08/04/a-feature-not-a-bug/
Dow up +153 on the day so far btw.
Brachiator
@Kobie:
Yep, pretty much. Just you. I understand your concerns, but I really don’t see this as connected to issues of gay acceptance, in part because anything even related to gay acceptance is irrelevant to hard core GOPers.
JenJen
Was just watching MSNBC and Andrea Mitchell was asking Chuck Todd why Michele Bachmann suddenly seems to be avoiding her own crowds, and doesn’t work the rope line.
Chuck talked out his ass and kind of avoided the question, which is too bad, because I’d say maybe Gabe Aderhold and people like him provide the answer as to why Bachmann is suddenly afraid of the people.
TenguPhule
And still down 12% for the year.
Just give me your money already, or set it on fire. At least that way it all goes up at once instead of a death of a thousand cuts.
West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)
Kobie, I think I understand what you mean. I feel a little nervous, too, about saying that the Bachmann’s are prejudiced against gay people, but that Marcus sure is a little light in the loafers, isn’t he (wink-wink, nudge-nudge, say no more).
Having said that, they seem like hypocritical panderers who deserve pretty much the snark they receive. I usually just don’t personally indulge in the jokes about Marcus. Perhaps that makes me one of those who said nothing when the Nazis came for the Communists….
Sir Nose'D
REP. Sir Nose’D: It’s a very sad life. It’s part of Satan, I think, to say that this is conservative. It’s anything but conservative. … It leads to the personal enslavement of individuals. Because if you’re involved in the conservative lifestyle, it’s bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair, and personal enslavement. And that’s why this is so dangerous. … We need to have profound compassion for people who are dealing with the very real issue of political dysfunction in their life and political identity disorders.
See–I’m not judging…
redshirt
@JohnR: Bravo. Well done – it saddens me greatly that perhaps I was the first one to get your reference. Too subtle, perhaps?
Also, right on target.
low-tech cyclist
if you’re involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it’s bondage.
Hey, we hetero types can do bondage too! Gays don’t get to hog ALL the fun, dagnabbit!
Ruckus
She doesn’t judge, she just hates.
West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)
I think we can stop worrying about Bachmann. Here’s why: this thread has pretty much run its course. I posted comment #65 six hours ago. Remember when any ol’ Palin thread would produce 150-200+ comments? Bachmann doesn’t generate that kind of disdain or passion (from the Republicans). I think she’ll fade fast.
That’s my theory. What do you think?