Stay Classy, Fox Nation

From an AP story about President Obama’s poll numbers:

The erosion of approval is primarily among women. Last month, 57 percent said they felt he deserved re-election, a figure that dipped to 48 percent this month. The decline came almost entirely among white women, just 37 percent of whom say Obama deserves re-election in the new poll.

AP’s headline for the story:

AP poll: Economic worries pose new snags for Obama

Headline for a repost of the story at Fox Nation:

You don’t need to be a dog to hear that whistle.

(X-posted.)

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85 replies
  1. 1
    Han's Solo says:

    You have to be f’n kidding me…

  2. 2
    shortstop says:

    In fact, dogs’ ears being so sensitive, America’s canines are currently frantically running up and down, quivering and panting at this gigantic assault on their ears.

  3. 3
    ruemara says:

    Careful. A slew of relatively rare commenters will now show up and whine that you’re encroaching on ABL territory.

  4. 4
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    If I had to offer conjecture for the declining support of white women outside the confines of the tired PUMA/EveryoneThatDisagreesWithObamaIsARacist framework, I’d say white Democratic women are probably looking for the emotional connection with the President more so than men. Clinton had the whole faux sympathy thing downpat and was loved by white Democratic women.

    Obama doesn’t seem comfortable with the emotional thing and comes across as regretful at best, slightly baleful at worst when trying to convey sympathy.

  5. 5
    kd bart says:

    He’s wondering where there at.

  6. 6
    PeakVT says:

    That’s fucking outrageous. Scumbags.

  7. 7
    Zifnab says:

    This can only be good news for John McCain!

  8. 8
    here4tehbeer says:

    At least they didn’t say White Wimminz, although that may have just been an oversight by some Summer intern.

  9. 9
    lacp says:

    Hot buttered Jesus. They’re not even fucking pretending to hide it any more.

  10. 10
    Cassidy says:

    FOX Nation…Firedoglake…’bout the same damn thing at this point.

  11. 11
    Han's Solo says:

    How long until Fox Nation merges with Stormfront?

    If you aren’t outraged you really aren’t paying attention.

  12. 12
    Culture of Truth says:

    What’s the GOP approval among white women? My understanding is it’s not high.

  13. 13
    Rommie says:

    Now I know why Superman built his hideaway in Arctic – his super-hearing would drive him batsnot-crazy if he didn’t have a place to chill out far far away. If Tunch is all irritable today, we’ll know the reason.

  14. 14
    Zifnab says:

    @JustSomeFuckhead:

    If I had to offer conjecture for the declining support of white women…

    One poll in the middle of July on an off-year cycle means about diddly squat. Keep an eye on Pollster.com or other aggregate sites if you want an idea of how Obama is doing.

    http://huffingtonpost.com/2009.....038;lines=

    Drawing sweeping conclusions from one guy’s numbers doesn’t do you any good.

  15. 15
    fasteddie9318 says:

    @JSF:

    If I had to offer conjecture for the declining support of white women outside the confines of the tired PUMA/EveryoneThatDisagreesWithObamaIsARacist framework

    I’d start with the fact that a single-month decline of that size in a subset of a subset of a polling sample could easily be an outlier. But I can’t worry about that; I need to lock up my mom and my wife before this crazy n****r comes back to my town. Fox News told me so.

  16. 16

    Didn’t realize David Duke was working for Fox News.

  17. 17
    TR says:

    Jesus Christ. They’re not even trying to hide it now.

  18. 18
    Nellcote says:

    Clinton had the whole faux sympathy thing downpat and was loved by white Democratic women.

    Obama doesn’t seem comfortable with the emotional thing and comes across as regretful at best, slightly baleful at worst when trying to convey sympathy.

    I disagree. Oh wait, I’m not white. Carry on…

  19. 19
    jayjaybear says:

    Give them some credit…at least they didn’t headline it “Obama: Where All De White Women At?”

  20. 20
    Culture of Truth says:

    Just Some Fuckhead,

    I can’t agree with that declining support theory, as I’ve seen no evidence of an increasing lack of emotional connectivity from the President, above and beyond any existing such perception. Indeed, the most visible example was quite recently at the Arizona memorial service.

    In my opinion the reason is probably economic.

  21. 21
    Mattminus says:

    They’ve kind of gotten over a hump where I can’t help but admire their absolute brazenness.

  22. 22
    Cat Lady says:

    Fox winks and nudges for old white people who don’t like Obama!? Get outta town!

    Well, a white baby girl approves of him. When this gets passed around a few million more times, the older ones will come around.

  23. 23
    Citizen_X says:

    If only there some kind of organization, some kind of clan, say, that was dedicated to protecting the virtue of Our White Women, some kind of shining knights in white that could ride in to the rescue…

  24. 24
    Violet says:

    Oh my gawd. I know they don’t hide it, but really…they aren’t hiding it at all now, are they?

  25. 25
    Culture of Truth says:

    Assuming, as others have said, it’s not just an outlier, diddly-squat poll.

  26. 26

    Hey, white men have problems with white women, too.

  27. 27
    El Tiburon says:

    Hey, credit where credit is due. The headline writers at Fox are some crazy-talented motherfuckers. They are like the proverbial mastermind criminal who chooses to use their genius for evil instead of good.

    It is truly a talent they have to turn everything upside down and ass-backwards. Come on, the talent is admirable. And always transposing the wrong black man for another black man or Tina Fey for Sarah Palin.

    I have a sense it’s a bunch of slackers stoned out on pot just seeing how bad they can fuck with everyone and still keep their job.

  28. 28
    amk says:

    Pathetic racist pigs.

    @ Cat Lady – That was a great vid.

  29. 29
    handy says:

    You know who else had a problem with white women?

  30. 30
    ThatLeftTurnInABQ says:

    Just wait until the NFL season is canceled and white women have to deal with their cranky white men getting in the way and messing everything up. Nobody is going to be happy then.

  31. 31

    The human race’s ability to say something that they really didn’t intend to sound like it did should never be underestimated. On the other hand, this is FOX. I… don’t know what to think. CAN they really have meant to put up a headline that sounds this bad?

  32. 32
    Poopyman says:

    @jayjaybear:

    Beat me to it.

  33. 33
    themann1086 says:

    Hey where da white wimmin at?

  34. 34
    DecidedFenceSitter says:

    Yes, Obama just hates emotion – Obama Calms Wailing Baby.

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    shortstop says:

    I hadn’t bothered to click on that crying baby video before — that really is hilarious.

  37. 37
    Chris says:

    You don’t need to be a dog to hear that whistle.

    That is, unfortunately, increasingly the standard at NewsCorp and company. To the point that I don’t understand why the word “dog-whistle” is even used anymore. I mean, “there are people cheating on welfare” is a dog-whistle. “Obama has a problem with white women” is not.

  38. 38
    James E. Powell says:

    I recall, but cannot find right now, an analysis of the 2004 election that argued that the increase in Bush’s popular vote came not from “values voters” turning out to fight teh gay, but from white suburban women, dubbed “terrified moms” or something like that, shifting to the party of Violence Is Strength.

  39. 39
    Joel says:

    Sounds like arbitrary endpoints. What happened a month ago? Someone remind me.

  40. 40
    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik says:

    Jesus weeping, that’s just awful.

    What’s even more awful is that it’s probably gonna work in exactly what it’s mean to do.

  41. 41
    trollhattan says:

    This gets at my frustration with the Jon Stewart-Chris Wallace thing: there’s no way for Stewart to adequately state how radical Fox actually is and still come across as reasonable and thoughful and informed. They are simply not a news organization today, even if they once flirted with being one. Allowing Fox to claim they are, even a tiny bit, is a de facto win for them.

  42. 42
    GregB says:

    Fox News:

    Obama smothers white baby.

    News at 11:00.

  43. 43
    ABL says:

    Cheese and rice.

  44. 44
    fasteddie9318 says:

    @handy:

    You know who else had a problem with white women?

    Yeah: me, three days ago when my wife decided that I had somehow used my heretofore latent power to mentally operate electronic devices in order to make her laptop delete an important e-mail. I told her that if I had such a power, I would surely go use it on an ATM somewhere instead of using it to fuck around with her laptop, but that didn’t seem to make her less pissed.

  45. 45
    Ash Can says:

    “Whistle”? My ass. I’m going to be deaf for a couple of hours from that headline. Some “whistle.”

  46. 46
    dj spellchecka says:

    some other wild stuff in this poll

    “Obama faced 59 percent disapproval on his handling of the economy and on unemployment. The steepest decrease was among respondents with incomes above $50,000.”

    so, he’s losing ground with the folks doing the best in this economy. [and most likely to have a job]

    “He also lost support among self-described independents, from 62 percent approval last month to 43 percent now, his lowest since June 2010.”

    19 points in one month? color me dubious.

  47. 47
    handy says:

    @fasteddie

    heh! that’s like that time my wife backed into a guy leaving a parking lot and then blamed me for it because I had re-adjusted the sideview mirrors when I drove the car earlier.

  48. 48
    catclub says:

    Fasteddie @ 44 : but that didn’t seem to make her less pissed.

    Funny how that works.

  49. 49
    Legalize says:

    I have a problem with white women too. I’m married to one!! Wakka wakka.

  50. 50
    Amir_Khalid says:

    That’s not a racist dog whistle, man; that’s a racist train whistle.

  51. 51
    shortstop says:

    This line of conversation can only lead to broken crockery and bloodstains on the carpet.

  52. 52
    daveNYC says:

    More a racist signal flare.

    Give them some credit…at least they didn’t headline it “Obama: Where All De White Women At?”

    At least that would have been a Mel Brooks reference.

    I figure in six months they’ll just come out with “Obama: Black and scary.”

  53. 53
    Thoughtcrime says:

    Or a racist boat whistle:

    “Let’s get that boy before he marries my daughter!!!!!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpuJaTA7Txk

  54. 54
    Cassidy says:

    So how does this work exactly? The Black Lady sees racism and there are 100+ comments saying how she’s a horrible writer, accusations of alcoholism, and some turd wanting a filter installed because he’s too damn lazy to use his scroll wheel. The white guy sees racism and it’s all agreement and hugs? Starting to wonder just how progressive you guys are.

  55. 55
    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik says:

    @Cassidy

    Feh…one thing I noticed about ABL’s comments list is that a lot of the shitstirrers tend to be names I don’t recognize as regulars around here. Either a lot of lurkers coming out of the woodwork, sockpuppetry, or just a lot of trolling. Sure, I see some regulars giving her shit, but it seems like most of the clogs that come out for ABL’s posts tend to come out ONLY for her posts.

  56. 56
    gene108 says:

    In my opinion the reason is probably economic.

    Obama’s poll numbers seem to be the inverse of gas prices.

    When gas prices are up, the economy slows down – people don’t have money to spend on other things – and people get antsie to see if the next guy got better.

    It’s not a coincidence that the dip in his poll numbers came, when gas prices shot up and the economy slowed down.

    I can’t imagine where we’d be at as an economy, with $50/barrel oil, let alone the $10-$20/barrel for the 1990’s. The free money people would have to spend would just kick start this economy overnight.

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    boss bitch says:

    Obama doesn’t seem comfortable with the emotional thing and comes across as regretful at best, slightly baleful at worst when trying to convey sympathy.

    Total bullshit.

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    Poopyman says:

    @ gene108:

    Well, today oil dipped 4.4% when the IEA announced the release of 60M bbls of oil, and the Dow dropped almost 200 points, before coming back slightly.

    So pick yer poison. Either the stock market stays/goes in the crapper or oil prices come down. As long as traders are using my 401k money to buy oil futures I don’t see a decoupling here.

  60. 60
    gene108 says:

    @Poopyman:

    Meh…I’m not getting worked up by one day changes in prices.

    If oil prices hadn’t shot up in April and we didn’t have $4/gallon gas recently, I think the recovery would’ve kept adding 100,000 to 200,000 jobs per month.

    Since people are spending more on fuel and food, they aren’t spending it on other things. That caused an already weak level of demand for goods and services to drop even further.

    Companies started scaling back hiring and I don’t see them picking it up this summer or maybe even this year, unless there’s a strong resurgence in consumer demand. I don’t see people spending money on goods and services, when so much more is now going towards food and fuel.

    Therefore, if the oil prices really drop and gas prices get below $3/gallon, I think the economy will do better, hiring will pick up and thus Obama’s poll numbers will bounce back.

  61. 61
    Poopyman says:

    Via Thers, here’s another fine Fox News headline.

    NASA Scientist Accused of Using Celeb Status Among Environmental Groups to Enrich Himself

    If you want to read the article, -you’re going to have to go there yourself-. Actually, here it is. Fuck ’em:

    The NASA scientist who once claimed the Bush administration tried to “silence” his global warming claims is now accused of receiving more than $1.2 million from the very environmental organizations whose agenda he advocated.
    __
    In a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Washington, D.C., a group claims NASA is withholding documents that show James Hansen failed to comply with ethics rules and financial disclosures regarding substantial compensation he earned outside his $180,000 taxpayer-paid position as director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies.
    __
    “Hansen’s office appears to be somewhat of a rogue operation. It’s clearly a taxpayer-funded global warming advocacy organization,” said Chris Horner, a co-founder of The American Tradition Institute, which filed the lawsuit. “The real issue here is, has Hansen been asking NASA in writing, in advance, for permission for these outside activities? We have reason to believe that has not been occurring.”
    __
    The lawsuit claims Hansen privately profited from his public job in violation of federal ethics rules, and NASA allowed him to do it because of his influence in the media and celebrity status among environmental groups, which rewarded him handsomely the last four years.
    __
    Gifts, speaking fees, prizes and consulting compensation include:
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    — A shared $1 million prize from the Dan David Foundation for his “profound contribution to humanity.” Hansen’s cut ranged from $333,000 to $500,000, Horner said, adding that the precise amount is not known because Hansen’s publicly available financial disclosure form only shows the prize was “an amount in excess of $5,000.”
    __
    — The 2010 Blue Planet prize worth $550,000 from the Asahi Glass Foundation, which recognizes efforts to solve environmental issues.
    __
    — The Sophie Prize for his “political activism,” worth $100,000. The Sophie Prize is meant to “inspire people working towards a sustainable future.”
    __
    — Speaking fees totaling $48,164 from a range of mostly environmental organizations.
    __
    — A $15,000 participation fee, waived by the W.J. Clinton Foundation for its 2009 Waterkeeper Conference.
    __
    — $720,000 in legal advice and media consulting services provided by The George Soros Open Society Institute. Hansen said he did not take “direct” support from Soros but accepted “pro bono legal advice.”
    __
    Hansen did not respond to Fox News’ request for comment.
    __
    Federal rules prohibit government employees from receiving certain types of income outside their job. Employees are required to file Form 17-60 in writing before any outside activity. And annually, they’re required to submit Form SF 278, after receiving outside compensation.
    __
    The American Tradition Institute filed a Freedom of Information Act request for those two documents for Hansen. The lawsuit claims NASA has “repeatedly and unlawfully refused to produced the requested materials.”
    __
    “Should the taxpayer know what’s going on? Should, as FOIA intends, NASA disclose documents to shed light on its operations and its compliance within the law? We say yes. The law says yes. NASA says no,” Horner said.
    __
    Mark Hess, chief of communications for the Goddard Space Center, sent Fox News NASA’s response to Horner’s FOIA request. It said in many cases the documents Horner requested did not exist. Horner claims they should, if Hansen was complying with the law.

  62. 62
    Nemesis says:

    tweety did a segment on this very issue last week. His contention: all the oxygen in the political room is being sucked out by Paylin and BacKKKman. Hence, the Dems have no high profile women to counter the goopers female allsomeness.

    Prly the dumbest inside the beltway pablum Ive heard thus far this year.

  63. 63
    asiangrrlMN says:

    @Nellcote, I disagree, too. Oh, wait….

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Total bullshit.

    Well, I did preface it as conjecture. :)

  65. 65
    Midnight Marauder says:

    A buddy of mine whipped up an image that perfectly captures the 21st century dogwhistle:

    I thought this would be the ideal place to share it.

  66. 66
    Judas Escargot says:

    Well, today oil dipped 4.4% when the IEA announced the release of 60M bbls of oil, and the Dow dropped almost 200 points

    Funny how that works, innit?

    BTW, 60M bbl is not even one day’s global consumption (~85bbl/day), and less than three and a half day’s US consumption (~18-19bbl/day). Big swing for such a small proportion.

  67. 67
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Citizen_X #23:

    If only there some kind of organization, some kind of clan, say, that was dedicated to protecting the virtue of Our White Women, some kind of shining knights in white that could ride in to the rescue…

    Welcome to the hood (sheet, I can’t believe I wrote that.)

  68. 68
    mclaren says:

    The problem is that gigantic harem of white women Obama keeps in cages in the West Wing. If only he’d keep ’em out of sight, he wouldn’t have this kind of problem.

    Of course, walking around with that backwards baseball cap and all that gold bling on his chest doesn’t help Obama’s image either.

  69. 69
    daveNYC says:

    BTW, 60M bbl is not even one day’s global consumption (~85bbl/day), and less than three and a half day’s US consumption (~18-19bbl/day). Big swing for such a small proportion.

    Mr. Margin calling on line one.

  70. 70
    Perspecticus says:

    I’m sorry but, as ridiculous as that is, that is awesome.

  71. 71
    Mike Kay (The Base) says:

    Obama has a big problem with white women

    They’re probably referring to the PUMAs like Her Baroness Lady Lynn Forester de Rothchild and Lady Hamsher.

  72. 72
    Hal says:

    First, can I just give a little LOL at the sad faced Obama in the photo? Second:

    Yet, 16 months before the November 2012 elections, Obama also is perceived favorably by 56 percent of respondents and 52 percent approve of his job performance overall. Despite the overwhelming sentiment that the national economy is in poor shape, more than three of five of those polled rated the financial situation of their own households as good. And, echoing previous findings, about three-quarters of the survey participants said it is unrealistic to expect noticeable results on the economy in one term.

    For Obama, the poll results are a mixed appraisal. In many ways they show him returning to the public ratings he faced before bin Laden’s death created a spike of approval. As such, they indicate a certain resilience – an ability to hold steady even as economic indicators worsen. But the new AP-GfK poll also reveals trouble spots for Obama

    This is one of the things that I hate about politics. One poll after another contradicting each other, changing day to day, let alone week to week. When is the next election? This November, right?

  73. 73
    Frank W. says:

    Does anyone else get rather dejected sometimes by reading the same basic stories over and over? Palin is a grifter, FOX lies, Republicans are greedy, some moron or another wants creationism taught…

    I want to stay abreast of the news, but sometimes I feel like going Ted Kaczynski (in a completely non-violent way) and moving to a cabin in the woods where I would commune with nature, ponder the stars, chat with squirrels, and drink good beer.

    And now I’ll whine for a moment. I keep posting, but get damn few responses. I’ve experimented with thoughtful (I hope), snarky, scatological, literary… mostly I get crickets. Anyone else ever feel that way? I go to this site nearly daily (usually several times a day), and like the give and take. I think I’m among my people, but the frequent thread kills I’ve committed make me wonder.

  74. 74
    Brachiator says:

    Sure, I see some regulars giving her shit, but it seems like most of the clogs that come out for ABL’s posts tend to come out ONLY for her posts.

    This reminds me of the pathetic people who have a habit of posting nasty comments about the Obamas whenever they can.

    It is interesting how clearly people recognize it for exactly what it is, noxious race baiting. A commenter wrote the following about crazy responses to an article about Michelle Obama’s recent trip to South Africa:

    Whenever the Obamas are in this british paper, all the really abusive, vile and hate filled comments come from the Yanks.If they hate the Obamas so much, why come onto a british newpaper site to bring up their bile.Let’s hope palin gets in and they get what they deserve but as we know, everytime America sneezes we get the cold!

    Clearly, some people just love stewing in the juices of their racism. And Fox seems to love to fan the flames of bigotry. But it is a hopeful sign that there are people who are not simply tired of this crap, but who utterly reject it.

  75. 75
    SteveM says:

    @ gene108:

    Obama’s poll numbers seem to be the inverse of gas prices.

    A legendary pseudonymous blogger of the last decade named Professor Pollkatz once created a graph showing an extremely close relationship between presidential approval ratings and gas prices. And I mean extremely close (scroll down at the link for Pollkatz’s graph, or go here).

  76. 76
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @SteveM:

    A legendary pseudonymous blogger of the last decade named Professor Pollkatz once created a graph showing an extremely close relationship between presidential approval ratings and gas prices. And I mean extremely close (scroll down at the link for Pollkatz’s graph, or go here).

    That’s spooky.

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    shortstop says:

    A legendary pseudonymous blogger of the last decade named Professor Pollkatz once created a graph showing an extremely close relationship between presidential approval ratings and gas prices.

    But god forbid that most Americans should admit that we need to move away from fossil fuels. Climate change is a hoax! I love my semi-sized SUV! I want low gas prices and my president better give them to me! He’s the most powerful man in the world; he can find a way!

  78. 78
    Ash Can says:

    @ Frank W: Don’t take it personally if no one responds. I can’t speak for anyone else, but unless I’m actually replying to someone, I’m just throwing crap up against the wall when I post here. Whether or not anyone responds to me makes no difference to me; I’m just mouthing off. And I assume that, in general, everyone else here is the same way. So don’t let a lack of acknowledgment keep you from commenting.

  79. 79

    Fox: “We’re mocking racism by reinforcing it.”

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    shortstop says:

    I’ll second Ash Can at 78 in toto. Franco, don’t be discouraged–this blog, it’s not so hard to understaaaaaaand. Keep posting and we’ll keep reading and unless someone challenges you to a duel (and sometimes even then), there’s nothin’ to worry about.

  81. 81
    Frank W. says:

    Thanks, Ashcan (78) & shortstop (80)… I wondered if maybe I didn’t know the secret handshake… I really don’t expect to get a response to much that I say, but sometimes it seems like long weeks go by with nothin’…
    But let out that your dog has a split whisker and the outpouring of sympathy and camraderie is astounding! I DO love animals: got a Netherlands dwarf rabbit, a cat-mutt, and a Havanese dog. I’m not anti-animal!

  82. 82
    ThatLeftTurnInABQ says:

    @Frank W #81:

    I wondered if maybe I didn’t know the secret handshake

    I’ve found that I get more interaction when I quote other people’s comments rather than just posting my own thoughts but YMMV.

    See, now I killed the thread. So it isn’t always you.

  83. 83
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @ThatLeftTurninABQ:

    See, now I killed the thread. So it isn’t always you.

    No one killed the thread. 80 comments is pretty impressive for a new guy.

    @Frank W.:

    And now I’ll whine for a moment. I keep posting, but get damn few responses. I’ve experimented with thoughtful (I hope), snarky, scatological, literary… mostly I get crickets. Anyone else ever feel that way? I go to this site nearly daily (usually several times a day), and like the give and take. I think I’m among my people, but the frequent thread kills I’ve committed make me wonder.

    First time I recall seeing you comment and I’m pretty on top of shit. Here are some suggestions, in the order you should try them:

    1. Get a better screen name, something that sticks out. “Frank” is just boring. I almost immediately started yawning before I even get to the “W.” part.

    2. Don’t spend all yer time agreeing. There’s no upside to agreement. If you don’t agree with this, yer catching on.

    3. Correct other people’s grammar. This is a surefire way to get on the radar because everyone universally despises a smarmy grammar nazi.

    4. If you aren’t comfortable with the heel role, go for the hero role. This means proactively defending Obama from all imagined harm. Protecting the World’s Most Powerful Powerless Man isn’t a job for the weak of heart and the payoff could be as sweet as eemom saying something awkwardly sentimental to you.

    5. If you aren’t comfortable with the hero role or the heel role, simply pick a side in the ongoing blogcommentingwars. Half the commenters will love you, half will hate you but all will notice you.

    Good luck!

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    d. john says:

    I agree with Chris.

    Can’t believe it’s 2011.

    I thought I was gonna finally get a flying car. yay.

    Instead I get the reanimated corpse of Lee Atwater. (He’s meaner now.) boo.

    I’m disappointed.

    Roger Ailes should die of Guinea Worm.

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    Frank W. says:

    Thanks for the tips, JSFH #83. As a college English instructor, I could certainly see to point #3, but that would be too much like work! I suppose I could find a better poster name, too… Maybe Dipshiticus Rex?

    I’ve been trying, actually, to avoid going too negative. I really think that our political discourse has become absolutely toxic. Seems like everyone must be utterly right and those who disagree with us must be demonized and destroyed… That’s probably not my best route.

    Nor can I champion everything the big ‘O’ does — just not feelin’ such passion for this administration.

    Alright, you gave me some material to consider! And, for the record, your posts always give me a chuckle… Oh, crap, there I go being agreeable again! I’ll work on that… I know — bite me! :)

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