I don’t think I ever realized that a cock looks just like flipping the bird. Is that just me missing the completely obvious?
Oh, and be careful what you wish for. Also.
4.
Yutsano
Meh. Taggers know the risk whenever they put a design on a wall that the odds of it staying are pretty minimal. And they would tell you that’s fine, the walls should constantly be changing with life and such. The commentary with the cocks was awesome though.
First a LoLcat bible, and now cocks graffiti. Must be some primo glue, or an adolescence flashback. That’s okay, I get bit by the silly bug now and then, also too.
9.
Marmot
A friend sent me this earlier today, knowing my graffiti bent. Sure, artists know their stuff isn’t necessarily going to last, but what douche repaints an interesting wall in beige?
10.
James E. Powell
Question for the realty company: is it a good idea to declare open war on taggers? I mean, forbidden fruit and all that.
@Cat Lady: Which is why certainly overly literal people like me stick the knuckles out on the forefinger and ring finger…
12.
moops
It is a fun joke, but I’m not in the cheering camp. I live in a town that struggles with graffiti. You declare some graffiti as very good and therefore should stay put.
If you want to paint a mural, submit your draft, get permission. Many building owners would like a nice side mural from a local graffiti artist. It actually discourages the wankers.
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Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: I think there should be walls put up in public parks where graffiti artists can do their thing. You put something up and it stays for a week or two then gets painted over and replaced by someone else’s work.
14.
suzanne
That’s friggin’ rad. As an art lover, I am bored to FUCK with tagging and “street art” and tattoos, etc. I blame Ed Hardy.
15.
Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: I like that idea. At my university there was a stairwell in the art building that was dedicated to that very purpose. And it was literally anything goes. There were a few pictures and sayings from the original founding that no one touched, but beyond that every single wall and crevasse was fair game. And it wasn’t just graffiti, some of it was poetry or quotes from famous figures. It was a great place to hide if you wanted to get away for awhile, especially since it was open 24/7.
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soonergrunt
heh. cool.
17.
Spaghetti Lee
Huh, that almost looks like a Nei Ruffino piece on the left, but I doubt it.
18.
MikeJ
@Omnes Omnibus: I liked what Seattle’s Space Virgin group did when a stupid ass tagger scrawled over their work.
Huh – that would seem to require a lot more thoughtfulness than the gesture usually demands.
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kdaug
Do note the “For Lease” sign in the second picture.
Wonder if that was before, or after, the beige-washing.
21.
Yutsano
@MikeJ: Have you seen the big mural of Bette Paige on the side of the gray house just off I-5 going towards Northgate? She’s in full pin-up mode with a window discreetly taking the place of her breasts. It’s kinda awesome and cracks me up every time I see it.
22.
Ecks
This slogan could equally well be painted on the Republican party.
(if you follow it back more than a few decades anyway)
Yes, but thanks to those gad-awful Ed Hardy t-shirts, one can identify a douche from a considerable distance.
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kdaug
@junebug: No. I prefer to leave the troglodytes in their fetid swamp undisturbed.
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suzanne
@Jebediah: Those Ed Hardy shirts are a blight upon my landscape.
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Omnes Omnibus
@suzanne: Are they common in your part of the world? I see very few of them.
29.
RossinDetroit
I’m torn between loving the art and hating the vandal. There’s no sharp line dividing Banksy from some delinquent with a spray can. In fact, Banksy wants you to believe there’s no difference at all.
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Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@suzanne: @Jebediah: Ed Hardy hats are worse. However, they do allow a height-impaired person like myself to have better advance warning of imminent douchiness than a t-shirt would provide.
Every time I see an Ed Hardy T-shirt, which is not that often (I’m old and not hip), I am immediately reminded that I would love to have a rat fink T-shirt by Ed “Big Daddy” Roth. I’m sure they’re out there somewhere, but I’m too lazy (and old and unhip) to look.
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Comrade Luke
Hey, does anyone watch Fringe? I just watched the first DVD of season one and I’m decidedly “meh”. A friend of mine says it gets better in season two.
I hunted down a small Rat Fink pin for my motorcycle jacket. It was a chore, but worth it for the smile it brings to the eyes of graying gearheads and ex-greasers.
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Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: I am getting older and I would not claim to be hip, but will this help you out?
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MattR
@Comrade Luke: Love it, though I am about a half dozen episodes behind on this season that are sitting on the DVR. lamh34 is a big fan as well.
It gets better as they get away from the ZFT stuff and move onto the alternate world stuff. I don’t want to say too much since I am not sure what you already know.
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Jager
@RossinDetroit: In my garage I have a couple of sets of vintage “MOON” equipment decals and speaking of Ed Hardy, those hats are the worst. The receptionist at our Vet has a damned Ed Hardy style tattoo on her left arm…I keep thinking “what were you thinking”?
Which is why certainly overly literal people like me stick the knuckles out on the forefinger and ring finger…
Wait, what? I’ve been sitting here trying to make my hand do what you seem to be describing here, and it’s just not happening. Stick them out where?
(OMG, why am I not asleep?)
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Marmot
@moops: It’s kinda hard to tell, but it looks like the previous occupant favored the “Diamonds are for Never” painting. From the first comment:
Amy says:
May 2, 2011 at 6:01 am
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Real estate painted over it after we moved out – did it without telling us even though when we gave notice we said we’d like to know what was gonna happen so we could tell you all… Amen to whoever did the cocks!
I have watched it on and off and can see the attraction, but there’s also the danger that you’ll become an obsessive fan who absolutely has to see it every week to follow all the twists and turns. I opted out, mainly because I can’t take Pacey from Dawson’s Creek seriously as a semi-bad-ass grown man. Perhaps a character failing on my part.
Plus (I seem to remember) they were getting bounced all over the schedule and it was hard to find the show. Or at least harder than I wanted to try. But it would be worth it if it piques your interest, I think. The promos for the recent episodes have almost gotten me to hunt it down again. But then I think I’ll pick it up on DVD or Netflix streaming.
@MattR: I know nothing. I never saw the show when it originally aired. I don’t even know what network it’s one.
The only thing I know about any kind of alternate universe is that apparently “alternate” Anna Torv “is even hotter”. That alone is enough to keep me going for a while :)
My problem is that so far it seems like a mix of The X-files and the bad parts of Lost, and sticking witha a JJ Abrams show has been really disappointing in the past.
And btw: Massive Dynamics? MASSIVE? They couldn’t have come up with a better name?
Man, I had a ton of Ed Roth stuff back in my greaser days. Mopar Rules!
49.
MattR
@Steeplejack: There is an absolutely great twist in season two that I can’t discuss but blew my mind when I first figured it out and started to think about the ramifications.
Speaking of mind blowing scenes, I started watching The Event and was absolutely blown away by the scene with Sean, Vicky and Dempsey a couple weeks ago. I am not sure if it was enhanced by the fact that I am late to the show and still trying to catch up on everything I missed (though Wikipedia is awfully helpful for that)
Ed Roth’s empty wooden pinstriping paint box sold at auction for around a quarter mil a couple of years ago. Think that over for a minute…
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Suffern ACE
@Marmot: Unfortunately, the agent was probably correct in that the number potential tenants who are of lovers of beige walls is greater than the number who love the mural. Painting over the mural might speed the finding of a new tenant. The lover of cocks on walls is probably out there somewhere, too. I don’t know if I’d pay a premium for that particular tag.
Hell, some of the Rat Fink model cars I made (and then blew up with firecrackers) would probably bring a pretty penny in mint kit condition. But then nobody thought about collecting that stuff back then.
@Suffern ACE:
Banksy gives you both.
Sorry for inadequate quoting. Stupid touchpad laptop is acting funky.
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MattR
@Comrade Luke: Your critique of season one was similar to mine. But not that unusual for a show trying to find its groove. I never watched any Lost, but I do have the fear that they wont satisfactorily answer all the questions that they create (or that things that we are led to believe have some hidden meaning are never resolved). There are a couple different easter eggs to look for every episode, including a code in the glyphs at each commercial break. But it is not all that interesting unless there is an additional layer of complexity to them that people haven’t figured out. OTOH, the plot has kept me on my toes for the most part. There are some good twists as well as non-twists that you read into because you know it is JJ Abrams. Ex. I spent a good amount of the first season trying to figure out if there was a connection between both Walter Bishop and William Bell having the initials WB.
I am also just remembering that I didn’t particularly like the first story arc of the second season but it got much better pretty quickly once you get a few episodes in.
There is an absolutely great twist in season two that I can’t discuss but blew my mind when I first figured it out and started to think about the ramifications.
Yeah, that was good. But, as Comrade Luke cogently pointed out, sometimes the show veers into toward low-road X-Files/Lost territory, and that is troubling.
But, as Comrade Luke cogently pointed out, sometimes the show veers into toward low-road X-Files/Lost territory, and that is troubling.
The first season was definitely a lot more X-Files type episodes that (mostly) also contained some small piece of the bigger picture that they were figuring out. As season two progresses and they become more aware of “the rules of the game” so to speak, the episodes become less like that and are more focused on the big picture (though there is generally still some sort of “case” that is the central theme of the episode)
At least that is how I think I remember it.
(EDIT: And I am pretty psyched to go through the final half dozen episodes this week leading up to the season finale on Friday. I am having a very hard time resisting the urge to start now)
Anyone know if it’s available on Netflix streaming?
It’s not, which is why I’m starting on Sons of Anarchy while I wait for the next disc to come in the mail.
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Marmot
@Suffern ACE: You might be right about that, though I’m going to hold out hope that you’re not. Depends on the town, partly. The beige really does make it look like a crap neighborhood, IMHO, though I’m aware I can’t see a thing else in the pics.
It is. They even use the same Lost music (the screeching strings, if you watched the show and remember that) going out of dramatic scenes.
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Marmot
@Omnes Omnibus: Zoiks. Those’re steeper odds than I thought. Go with the pin!
68.
MattR
@Barb (formerly Gex): Yep it is JJ Abrams. I share that fear, but have been pleasantly surprised so far.
@Comrade Luke: Demonstrating the brilliance of television executives, I don’t think the season 3 DVD’s becvome available before season 4 starts up. You have to finish up season 2 real quick and then catch season 3 as it happens in reruns (or tape the reruns to watch later if you have the space)
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Omnes Omnibus
@Marmot: Imagine the tragedies that could be prevented if only people knew of the dangers posed by has-been rock bands. Neil knew what he was saying: It’s better to burn out than to fade away.
70.
LT
Did anyone else see a weird forklift ad there for a second?
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Barb (formerly Gex)
@MattR: Hmmm. Maybe I’ll give it a try. Can I be fooled thrice? Probably. But maybe not.
After reading this thread and reconsidering my experience, I’d say give it a go. A lot of my frustration was that I could not reliably find when the damn show was on. This was before I had the awesome power of the DVR to scoop up any and all new episodes at whatever time they presented themselves. So my experience of the show was fragmented, which pissed me off, because I’m one of those OCD types who has to read series of mystery novels in order, etc.
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catdevotee
@Comrade Luke: Mr. cat and I have been watching it on DVD and are in season 2 now. We were fascinated from the beginning, but maybe we are just easily amused. Neither of us has seen the current show on TV so no clue as to whether it remains fun.
The problem is that there are so few entertaining shows on any channel. Even we sometimes need a break from political news! The only show currently on TV that we are following is Game of Thrones.
So my experience of the show was fragmented, which pissed me off, because I’m one of those OCD types who has to read series of mystery novels in order, etc.
There is nothing more frustrating than a new series that airs a handful of episodes and is cancelled before anything gets answered. It has gotten to the point where I generally don’t even bother with new mystery type dramas until I know that they will at least get an entire season to finish off the storyline. That is one of the reasons I did not dive into The Event until mid-season.
Is The Event any good? I didn’t start following it for just the reasons you mentioned, but occasionally I see a promo and am tempted. Plus I remember how attractive shows like 24 and Lost were at the start and then they went loony. It’s hard to commit after something like that. Sniff.
There is nothing more frustrating than a new series that airs a handful of episodes and is cancelled before anything gets answered.
Rubicon, anyone?
78.
MattR
@Steeplejack: I’m not really sure and it does not help that I skipped the first few episodes when I jumped in. It is an interesting general premise and the characters seem decent enough for the most part. And there was the one scene a couple weeks ago that I mentioned above that was completely unexpected in a way that was unexpected. So I am gonna stick with it for a while and see how the season plays out.
@Comrade Luke: At least they aired the entire season of Rubicon, unlike Day Break which was not that great but I was curious to see the ending (but ABC only aired 6 of eeh 13 episodes filmed). Apparently the rest are available online somewhere but I never tracked them down (so I guess I could not have cared too much)
@Comrade Luke: that actually played out for an entire season. I liked it, wasn’t that difficult to follow, yet the public decided that it preferred spoonfed fare like The Walking Dead and as such, Rubicon wasn’t renewed.
but in case you need cheering up, he’s an awesome meme
it depends, if you need to have people find your house, who have never been their, either cocks, or a mural works. utilitarian wise. in fact if there are other murals, and inadequate strett signage, the uniqueness of the cocks as a landmark, could make it particularly valuable.
@Steeplejack: Ah, the “where is that show again?” Fox is really good at killing good shows by doing that.
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Anne Laurie
I watched my first random episode of FRINGE, via Hulu, because someone said it was ‘like the X-Files, only more coherent.’ I kept watching it because of the Walter Bishop character, and later Olivia’s and Peter’s characters as well. What hooked me first was Noble’s (the actor who plays WB) ability to make clear that torturing people — even for the best reasons — breaks the torturer as well as his victims. In the FRINGE world (and I think in ours as well), if you aren’t a monster or insane when you start torturing, you will end up that way.
The ‘overstory’ for the XFiles, in the 90s, was ‘They are out to get us, and will probably succeed in the end.’ The overstory for post-9/11 FRINGE, in my opinion, is ‘We have done terrible things to our children, for all our good intentions; we will pay for all of it, and part of the payment is that our children will learn how thoroughly we have betrayed them.’
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opie jeanne
@Steeplejack: I built a couple of those cars when I was youngish, probably 12 or 13. I didn’t know any other girls who were building model cars and planes at the time.
My dad thought the RatFink cars were funny, but he tended to let me figure out how to deal with not getting the glue everywhere.
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opie jeanne
@Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity: OMG, I’ve seen that on the way to my daughter’s house… or going somewhere from her house. She just bought in Greenwood and one of the first things I had to do was get rid of some graffiti that appeared on her gate; gang sign, not particularly artistic.
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opie jeanne
@Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity: OMG, I’ve seen that on the way to my daughter’s house… or going somewhere from her house. She just bought in Greenwood and one of the first things I had to do was get rid of some graffiti that appeared on her gate; gang sign, not particularly artistic.
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donnah
A local storage business had a problem with graffiti taggers. He caught a couple of the guys in action and proposed that he would paint the entire back side of his building just for them to paint their work on, but they had to agree to leave the brick front and sides untouched.
The result is awesome. New teams of graffiti artists come there every couple of months and paint new designs over the old ones; sometimes they rival anime work for detail and color. It’s like having a giant art gallery right in our neighborhood.
I’m beginning to doubt your commitment to Texas Sparkle.
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machine
@junebug: Don’t bother. Kathleen McKinley (TexasSpackle) is a local fruitcake and embarassment. She moderates her blog comments so the only ones to make it through are supportive or easily refutable.
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Omnes Omnibus
Pure win indeed.
Sandals
Civility is dead!
Cat Lady
I don’t think I ever realized that a cock looks just like flipping the bird. Is that just me missing the completely obvious?
Oh, and be careful what you wish for. Also.
Yutsano
Meh. Taggers know the risk whenever they put a design on a wall that the odds of it staying are pretty minimal. And they would tell you that’s fine, the walls should constantly be changing with life and such. The commentary with the cocks was awesome though.
MikeJ
@Cat Lady:
Yes. The meaning of the bird is cock and balls.
Mark S.
I wonder if they’ll keep the new design.
Dennis SGMM
Nothing like a cock tale after dinner.
General Stuck
First a LoLcat bible, and now cocks graffiti. Must be some primo glue, or an adolescence flashback. That’s okay, I get bit by the silly bug now and then, also too.
Marmot
A friend sent me this earlier today, knowing my graffiti bent. Sure, artists know their stuff isn’t necessarily going to last, but what douche repaints an interesting wall in beige?
James E. Powell
Question for the realty company: is it a good idea to declare open war on taggers? I mean, forbidden fruit and all that.
lovable liberal
@Cat Lady: Which is why certainly overly literal people like me stick the knuckles out on the forefinger and ring finger…
moops
It is a fun joke, but I’m not in the cheering camp. I live in a town that struggles with graffiti. You declare some graffiti as very good and therefore should stay put.
If you want to paint a mural, submit your draft, get permission. Many building owners would like a nice side mural from a local graffiti artist. It actually discourages the wankers.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: I think there should be walls put up in public parks where graffiti artists can do their thing. You put something up and it stays for a week or two then gets painted over and replaced by someone else’s work.
suzanne
That’s friggin’ rad. As an art lover, I am bored to FUCK with tagging and “street art” and tattoos, etc. I blame Ed Hardy.
Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: I like that idea. At my university there was a stairwell in the art building that was dedicated to that very purpose. And it was literally anything goes. There were a few pictures and sayings from the original founding that no one touched, but beyond that every single wall and crevasse was fair game. And it wasn’t just graffiti, some of it was poetry or quotes from famous figures. It was a great place to hide if you wanted to get away for awhile, especially since it was open 24/7.
soonergrunt
heh. cool.
Spaghetti Lee
Huh, that almost looks like a Nei Ruffino piece on the left, but I doubt it.
MikeJ
@Omnes Omnibus: I liked what Seattle’s Space Virgin group did when a stupid ass tagger scrawled over their work.
Cat Lady
@lovable liberal:
Huh – that would seem to require a lot more thoughtfulness than the gesture usually demands.
kdaug
Do note the “For Lease” sign in the second picture.
Wonder if that was before, or after, the beige-washing.
Yutsano
@MikeJ: Have you seen the big mural of Bette Paige on the side of the gray house just off I-5 going towards Northgate? She’s in full pin-up mode with a window discreetly taking the place of her breasts. It’s kinda awesome and cracks me up every time I see it.
Ecks
This slogan could equally well be painted on the Republican party.
(if you follow it back more than a few decades anyway)
junebug
Forget how much you hate me, give this woman some bitch.
MikeBoyScout
The WAR on beige!
Jebediah
.@suzanne:
Yes, but thanks to those gad-awful Ed Hardy t-shirts, one can identify a douche from a considerable distance.
kdaug
@junebug: No. I prefer to leave the troglodytes in their fetid swamp undisturbed.
suzanne
@Jebediah: Those Ed Hardy shirts are a blight upon my landscape.
Omnes Omnibus
@suzanne: Are they common in your part of the world? I see very few of them.
RossinDetroit
I’m torn between loving the art and hating the vandal. There’s no sharp line dividing Banksy from some delinquent with a spray can. In fact, Banksy wants you to believe there’s no difference at all.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@suzanne: @Jebediah: Ed Hardy hats are worse. However, they do allow a height-impaired person like myself to have better advance warning of imminent douchiness than a t-shirt would provide.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Every time I see an Ed Hardy T-shirt, which is not that often (I’m old and not hip), I am immediately reminded that I would love to have a rat fink T-shirt by Ed “Big Daddy” Roth. I’m sure they’re out there somewhere, but I’m too lazy (and old and unhip) to look.
Comrade Luke
Hey, does anyone watch Fringe? I just watched the first DVD of season one and I’m decidedly “meh”. A friend of mine says it gets better in season two.
Thoughts?
RossinDetroit
@Steeplejack:
I hunted down a small Rat Fink pin for my motorcycle jacket. It was a chore, but worth it for the smile it brings to the eyes of graying gearheads and ex-greasers.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: I am getting older and I would not claim to be hip, but will this help you out?
MattR
@Comrade Luke: Love it, though I am about a half dozen episodes behind on this season that are sitting on the DVR. lamh34 is a big fan as well.
It gets better as they get away from the ZFT stuff and move onto the alternate world stuff. I don’t want to say too much since I am not sure what you already know.
Jager
@RossinDetroit: In my garage I have a couple of sets of vintage “MOON” equipment decals and speaking of Ed Hardy, those hats are the worst. The receptionist at our Vet has a damned Ed Hardy style tattoo on her left arm…I keep thinking “what were you thinking”?
TooManyJens
@lovable liberal:
Wait, what? I’ve been sitting here trying to make my hand do what you seem to be describing here, and it’s just not happening. Stick them out where?
(OMG, why am I not asleep?)
Marmot
@moops: It’s kinda hard to tell, but it looks like the previous occupant favored the “Diamonds are for Never” painting. From the first comment:
Steeplejack
@Comrade Luke:
I have watched it on and off and can see the attraction, but there’s also the danger that you’ll become an obsessive fan who absolutely has to see it every week to follow all the twists and turns. I opted out, mainly because I can’t take Pacey from Dawson’s Creek seriously as a semi-bad-ass grown man. Perhaps a character failing on my part.
Plus (I seem to remember) they were getting bounced all over the schedule and it was hard to find the show. Or at least harder than I wanted to try. But it would be worth it if it piques your interest, I think. The promos for the recent episodes have almost gotten me to hunt it down again. But then I think I’ll pick it up on DVD or Netflix streaming.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Heh. Just the idea of “ratfink.org” makes me laugh.
Steeplejack
@RossinDetroit:
That’s awesome. Could probably get you out of a jam someday. “But, Slash, he’s wearing a Rat Fink pin! We can’t stomp his brains out.”
cbear
It would be nice if that “cocks” artist could come over to the U.S. and fuck with that asshole Gov. Lepage in Maine who covered over the mural depicting the labor movement.
Fucking gooper.
Comrade Luke
@MattR: I know nothing. I never saw the show when it originally aired. I don’t even know what network it’s one.
The only thing I know about any kind of alternate universe is that apparently “alternate” Anna Torv “is even hotter”. That alone is enough to keep me going for a while :)
My problem is that so far it seems like a mix of The X-files and the bad parts of Lost, and sticking witha a JJ Abrams show has been really disappointing in the past.
And btw: Massive Dynamics? MASSIVE? They couldn’t have come up with a better name?
RossinDetroit
Coop may be the spiritual descendant of Ed Roth.
Marmot
@Steeplejack:
Sure, but what’re the chances you’ll get jumped by Guns ‘n Roses?
Comrade Luke
@Steeplejack: I’m also having a hard time with the crazy old man. Might be because of his fake American accent.
I’m also starting Sons of Anarchy, which I really like. I guess I’ll go back and forth for a while until one takes the lead for me.
Steeplejack
@Marmot:
Point taken.
James E. Powell
@RossinDetroit:
Man, I had a ton of Ed Roth stuff back in my greaser days. Mopar Rules!
MattR
@Steeplejack: There is an absolutely great twist in season two that I can’t discuss but blew my mind when I first figured it out and started to think about the ramifications.
Speaking of mind blowing scenes, I started watching The Event and was absolutely blown away by the scene with Sean, Vicky and Dempsey a couple weeks ago. I am not sure if it was enhanced by the fact that I am late to the show and still trying to catch up on everything I missed (though Wikipedia is awfully helpful for that)
Steeplejack
@Comrade Luke:
I do believe it gets better as it goes along. I’m a little fuzzy on the chronology.
But Anna Torv is teh hot, in either parallel universe. That counts for a lot.
RossinDetroit
@James E. Powell:
Ed Roth’s empty wooden pinstriping paint box sold at auction for around a quarter mil a couple of years ago. Think that over for a minute…
Suffern ACE
@Marmot: Unfortunately, the agent was probably correct in that the number potential tenants who are of lovers of beige walls is greater than the number who love the mural. Painting over the mural might speed the finding of a new tenant. The lover of cocks on walls is probably out there somewhere, too. I don’t know if I’d pay a premium for that particular tag.
Steeplejack
@RossinDetroit:
Hell, some of the Rat Fink model cars I made (and then blew up with firecrackers) would probably bring a pretty penny in mint kit condition. But then nobody thought about collecting that stuff back then.
Omnes Omnibus
@Marmot: 7:2.
RossinDetroit
@Suffern ACE:
Banksy gives you both.
Sorry for inadequate quoting. Stupid touchpad laptop is acting funky.
MattR
@Comrade Luke: Your critique of season one was similar to mine. But not that unusual for a show trying to find its groove. I never watched any Lost, but I do have the fear that they wont satisfactorily answer all the questions that they create (or that things that we are led to believe have some hidden meaning are never resolved). There are a couple different easter eggs to look for every episode, including a code in the glyphs at each commercial break. But it is not all that interesting unless there is an additional layer of complexity to them that people haven’t figured out. OTOH, the plot has kept me on my toes for the most part. There are some good twists as well as non-twists that you read into because you know it is JJ Abrams. Ex. I spent a good amount of the first season trying to figure out if there was a connection between both Walter Bishop and William Bell having the initials WB.
I am also just remembering that I didn’t particularly like the first story arc of the second season but it got much better pretty quickly once you get a few episodes in.
Steeplejack
@MattR:
Yeah, that was good. But, as Comrade Luke cogently pointed out, sometimes the show veers
intotoward low-road X-Files/Lost territory, and that is troubling.Comrade Luke
@Steeplejack:
OK, you guys have persuaded me to stick with it through at least season 2.
Let’s just call it the Torv Factor :)
Steeplejack
@Comrade Luke:
I’m okay with that!
And I think you guys have convinced me to pick up the thread again. Anyone know if it’s available on Netflix streaming?
MattR
@Steeplejack:
The first season was definitely a lot more X-Files type episodes that (mostly) also contained some small piece of the bigger picture that they were figuring out. As season two progresses and they become more aware of “the rules of the game” so to speak, the episodes become less like that and are more focused on the big picture (though there is generally still some sort of “case” that is the central theme of the episode)
At least that is how I think I remember it.
(EDIT: And I am pretty psyched to go through the final half dozen episodes this week leading up to the season finale on Friday. I am having a very hard time resisting the urge to start now)
Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity
@Yutsano:
There is? Why have I missed this? Clearly, I’m paying way too much attention to the road when I drive.
Looks awesome, tho’.
RossinDetroit
Drat. I have a terrible day ahead starting in 3.75 hours and I haven’t slept. I’m gonna be so tired by noon.
Cheers
Barb (formerly Gex)
@Steeplejack: Is it a JJ Abrams show? I find that his work invariably disappoints me at the end.
Comrade Luke
@Steeplejack:
It’s not, which is why I’m starting on Sons of Anarchy while I wait for the next disc to come in the mail.
Marmot
@Suffern ACE: You might be right about that, though I’m going to hold out hope that you’re not. Depends on the town, partly. The beige really does make it look like a crap neighborhood, IMHO, though I’m aware I can’t see a thing else in the pics.
Comrade Luke
@Barb (formerly Gex):
It is. They even use the same Lost music (the screeching strings, if you watched the show and remember that) going out of dramatic scenes.
Marmot
@Omnes Omnibus: Zoiks. Those’re steeper odds than I thought. Go with the pin!
MattR
@Barb (formerly Gex): Yep it is JJ Abrams. I share that fear, but have been pleasantly surprised so far.
@Comrade Luke: Demonstrating the brilliance of television executives, I don’t think the season 3 DVD’s becvome available before season 4 starts up. You have to finish up season 2 real quick and then catch season 3 as it happens in reruns (or tape the reruns to watch later if you have the space)
Omnes Omnibus
@Marmot: Imagine the tragedies that could be prevented if only people knew of the dangers posed by has-been rock bands. Neil knew what he was saying: It’s better to burn out than to fade away.
LT
Did anyone else see a weird forklift ad there for a second?
Barb (formerly Gex)
@MattR: Hmmm. Maybe I’ll give it a try. Can I be fooled thrice? Probably. But maybe not.
elmertfudd
Rael Imperial Aerosol Kid has struck again!
Steeplejack
@Barb (formerly Gex):
After reading this thread and reconsidering my experience, I’d say give it a go. A lot of my frustration was that I could not reliably find when the damn show was on. This was before I had the awesome power of the DVR to scoop up any and all new episodes at whatever time they presented themselves. So my experience of the show was fragmented, which pissed me off, because I’m one of those OCD types who has to read series of mystery novels in order, etc.
catdevotee
@Comrade Luke: Mr. cat and I have been watching it on DVD and are in season 2 now. We were fascinated from the beginning, but maybe we are just easily amused. Neither of us has seen the current show on TV so no clue as to whether it remains fun.
The problem is that there are so few entertaining shows on any channel. Even we sometimes need a break from political news! The only show currently on TV that we are following is Game of Thrones.
MattR
@Steeplejack:
There is nothing more frustrating than a new series that airs a handful of episodes and is cancelled before anything gets answered. It has gotten to the point where I generally don’t even bother with new mystery type dramas until I know that they will at least get an entire season to finish off the storyline. That is one of the reasons I did not dive into The Event until mid-season.
Steeplejack
@MattR:
Is The Event any good? I didn’t start following it for just the reasons you mentioned, but occasionally I see a promo and am tempted. Plus I remember how attractive shows like 24 and Lost were at the start and then they went loony. It’s hard to commit after something like that. Sniff.
Comrade Luke
@MattR:
Rubicon, anyone?
MattR
@Steeplejack: I’m not really sure and it does not help that I skipped the first few episodes when I jumped in. It is an interesting general premise and the characters seem decent enough for the most part. And there was the one scene a couple weeks ago that I mentioned above that was completely unexpected in a way that was unexpected. So I am gonna stick with it for a while and see how the season plays out.
@Comrade Luke: At least they aired the entire season of Rubicon, unlike Day Break which was not that great but I was curious to see the ending (but ABC only aired 6 of eeh 13 episodes filmed). Apparently the rest are available online somewhere but I never tracked them down (so I guess I could not have cared too much)
bago
Never mind the cocks, here come the buzzkills.
piratedan
@Comrade Luke: that actually played out for an entire season. I liked it, wasn’t that difficult to follow, yet the public decided that it preferred spoonfed fare like The Walking Dead and as such, Rubicon wasn’t renewed.
but in case you need cheering up, he’s an awesome meme
http://memebase.com/2011/05/03/memes-the-most-interesting-president-in-the-world/
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Suffern ACE:
it depends, if you need to have people find your house, who have never been their, either cocks, or a mural works. utilitarian wise. in fact if there are other murals, and inadequate strett signage, the uniqueness of the cocks as a landmark, could make it particularly valuable.
MikeJ
@bago: Bravo.
Barb (formerly Gex)
@Steeplejack: Ah, the “where is that show again?” Fox is really good at killing good shows by doing that.
Anne Laurie
I watched my first random episode of FRINGE, via Hulu, because someone said it was ‘like the X-Files, only more coherent.’ I kept watching it because of the Walter Bishop character, and later Olivia’s and Peter’s characters as well. What hooked me first was Noble’s (the actor who plays WB) ability to make clear that torturing people — even for the best reasons — breaks the torturer as well as his victims. In the FRINGE world (and I think in ours as well), if you aren’t a monster or insane when you start torturing, you will end up that way.
The ‘overstory’ for the XFiles, in the 90s, was ‘They are out to get us, and will probably succeed in the end.’ The overstory for post-9/11 FRINGE, in my opinion, is ‘We have done terrible things to our children, for all our good intentions; we will pay for all of it, and part of the payment is that our children will learn how thoroughly we have betrayed them.’
opie jeanne
@Steeplejack: I built a couple of those cars when I was youngish, probably 12 or 13. I didn’t know any other girls who were building model cars and planes at the time.
My dad thought the RatFink cars were funny, but he tended to let me figure out how to deal with not getting the glue everywhere.
opie jeanne
@Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity: OMG, I’ve seen that on the way to my daughter’s house… or going somewhere from her house. She just bought in Greenwood and one of the first things I had to do was get rid of some graffiti that appeared on her gate; gang sign, not particularly artistic.
opie jeanne
@Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity: OMG, I’ve seen that on the way to my daughter’s house… or going somewhere from her house. She just bought in Greenwood and one of the first things I had to do was get rid of some graffiti that appeared on her gate; gang sign, not particularly artistic.
donnah
A local storage business had a problem with graffiti taggers. He caught a couple of the guys in action and proposed that he would paint the entire back side of his building just for them to paint their work on, but they had to agree to leave the brick front and sides untouched.
The result is awesome. New teams of graffiti artists come there every couple of months and paint new designs over the old ones; sometimes they rival anime work for detail and color. It’s like having a giant art gallery right in our neighborhood.
bjacques
@Junebug23:
I’m beginning to doubt your commitment to Texas Sparkle.
machine
@junebug: Don’t bother. Kathleen McKinley (TexasSpackle) is a local fruitcake and embarassment. She moderates her blog comments so the only ones to make it through are supportive or easily refutable.