Mickey Kaus is a jackass

Via Yglesias, here’s Mickey Kaus on Obama:

Cost doesn’t go into why Obama managed to get to the top of politics without being all that good at it. The answer is distressingly obvious: Obama’s the biggest affirmative action baby in history.

Consider this an open thread.

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331 replies
  1. 1
    JPL says:

    Wow, does he think that the President was born in Kenya, also, too.

  2. 2
    GregB says:

    It was nice of Kaus to take time off from goat fucking to spew boiler-plate rightwing racist gibberish.

  3. 3
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    The answer is distressingly obvious: Obama’s the biggest affirmative action baby in history.

    This is absurd. Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

  4. 4
    Spiffy McBang says:

    This is only a workable theory if we also have affirmative action for the stupid.

  5. 5
    different church-lady says:

    @Spiffy McBang:

    This is only a workable theory if we also have affirmative action for the stupid.

    We do. It’s called “punditry.”

  6. 6
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Water is wet.

  7. 7

    The title of this post pretty much says it all

  8. 8
    Huckster says:

    Wow.. he been hanging out with Taylor Marsh?

  9. 9
    E.D. Kain says:

    @Spiffy McBang: careful what you wish for. You’ve heard conservatives complain that academics is dominated by liberals…

  10. 10
    E.D. Kain says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: that’s a lie and I want you to retract it immediately.

  11. 11
    kdaug says:

    And so the veil lifts.

  12. 12
    jazzgurl says:

    These irrelevant evil ‘little’ guys continue on with their arseness!The trouble is that ‘they’ won’t even sniff the history books but President Barack Hussein Obama will,even if the Americans don’t appreciate him.

  13. 13
    Bruce S says:

    Is Mickey Kaus the guy who used to get coffee for Fred Barnes and Charles Krauthammer when they were at The New Republic?

  14. 14
    piratedan says:

    Does that mean that Mickey is the ultimate application of the Peter Principle?

  15. 15
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Mickey Kaus is still with us? Who knew? I did check to see that Josh Marshall had already deleted this nitwit from his blogroll, don’t know when. Good on’im.

    It is fascinating to watch how the anger and other issues seep out when once (sort of) influential people see themselves (and/or their worldviews, their approved lists of people and issues that should matter, etc) being left in the compost heap of well-deserved obscurity. Dickie Cohen’s final meltdown ought to be spectacular

  16. 16
    JGabriel says:

    Mickey Kaus is a jackass

    In other news, sun rises in east.

    .

  17. 17
    Tom Levenson says:

    Kaus is a known goat blower. Well, he’s known not to have denied carnal knowledge of barnyard animals.

    I would say that this particular attribute would make his employment anywhere obvious preferential treatment, which would be confirmed by an objective review of the actual quality of his work.

    Projection, pure and simple.

  18. 18
    E.D. Kain says:

    I wonder when Mickey starts questioning Obama’s birth certificate.

  19. 19
    Mike in NC says:

    I vaguely remember when Kaus had a gig at Slate and he’d frequently engage in food fights with Andrew Sullivan.

    Hardly know anything about The Daily Caller. Another part of the Wingnut Wurlitzer?

  20. 20
    E.D. Kain says:

    @JGabriel: won’t you let me be the master of the obvious even just this once?

  21. 21
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I did check to see that Josh Marshall had already deleted this nitwit from his blogroll, don’t know when.

    Nope, just checked, he’s still there.

  22. 22
    Suffern ACE says:

    I can’t agree more with Kauss. I look at the laws which state that a certain number of Presidential Candidates must be African Americans or the whole election is thrown out and I’m pissed at the far-reaching effects of Affirmative Action. Guy managed to get 10s of millions of people to vote for him over his career because they had to vote for him or risk a civil suit.

    If he were any good at his job, everyone would like him. Just like everyone liked Nixon, Carter, Kennedy, Reagan, Johnson and the Bushes. Good politicians never have opposition. Obama is just so bad at what he does.

    Tell me again why Mickey Kaus is famous again?

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  24. 24
    Violet says:

    Didn’t Mickey Kaus run for Senate and lose terribly in the primaries? He sounds jealous of Obama, who actually has won several elections.

  25. 25
    Clambone says:

    I knew it was a mistake to add 15% to the vote of every black candidate.

  26. 26
    Bruce S says:

    “Hardly know anything about The Daily Caller. Another part of the Wingnut Wurlitzer?”

    It’s Tucker Carlson’s baby…nuff said?

  27. 27
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @FlipYrWhig: ach, you’re right. I was looking for an M, not a K

    Eric Alterman used to nut-pick this bitter little almost-but-never-was, too. Is Alterman still blogging?

  28. 28
    Davebo says:

    Indeed, Obama is an affirmative action president Mickey.

    And I’m sure the fact that your father was a California Supreme Court Associate Justice had nothing to do with your rise to pundit extraordinaire.

  29. 29
    wenchacha says:

    Sweet Fancy Moses! Mickey never heard of Clarence Thomas? He has a lifetime appointment!

    But he cries on tv better than our POTUS. With righteous indignation, too.

  30. 30
    eyelessgame says:

    @Spiffy McBang: We do, in fact, have affirmative action for the stupid. It’s called “Republican policy”.

  31. 31
    kdaug says:

    @Suffern ACE:

    Tell me again why Mickey Kaus is famous again?

    Father was a Supreme Court Justice in CA.

    He went to Harvard Law, but has never practiced.

    Hmm. Not saying bestiality was involved, but it would be irresponsible not to… well, no. I don’t want to speculate. I don’t even want to imagine it.

  32. 32
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Suffern ACE:

    Tell me again why Mickey Kaus is famous again?

    Something obscene to do with a goat, from what I heard.

  33. 33

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

    You know, like being raised by a single mother on welfare and being called a nigger.

    Brain-dead asshole troll.

  34. 34
    dollared says:

    I have the proof that Obama really earned everything he got: This year, after the first 50 games, his bracket was in the 99.8th percentile out of millions of brackets on the ESPN site. If he did that well on the LSAT, he clearly earned his way into Harvard.

  35. 35
    Maude says:

    Obama didn’t use Afirmative Action to get into Harvard.
    Of course, this doesn’t matter to pundits who like to smear Obama.

  36. 36
    danimal says:

    Sorry to be the defender of Kaus here, but I need to say it.

    There is no proof whatsoever that Mickey Kaus blows goats. None. Any accusations that Kaus is a goat-blower are purely speculative.

    Again, there is no proof that Mickey Kaus blows goats.

  37. 37
    SimeonJ says:

    I find the constant objectification of barnyard animals distressing. Do not liken the rest of God’s to Mickey Kaus; and do imply that they would be willing to have sex with him.
    On a less serious note, why does anyone assume that Obama has been a failure. He has been a great success, even though he has not done everything just as I would have wanted him to.

  38. 38
    Mr. Long Form says:

    I know this is painfully obvious, but I just can’t get over the blindness of people who see Obama’s strengths as their exact opposites. He seems to me to be a really, really good politician, if by that you mean someone who can get a lot of people to vote for him and who can then get a bunch of his objectives (like ACA) implemented despite lots of opposition. I feel the same way when wingers say he’s arrogant, too inarticulate to work without a teleprompter, elitist (because of his privileged upbringing?), a thug, etc. I guess it’s the Rovian way: attack Kerry for not being a war hero; attack Obama for not being a person who had no connection and nothing to go on but what he brought with him.

  39. 39
    David in NY says:

    Yeah, I remember when they adopted that Constitutional Amendment giving black people a 10,000,000 vote handicap when they run for President. But for that, John McCain would have had a 480,000 vote victory.

    ED: Oh hell, somebody always beats me to this stuff.

  40. 40
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    You know, like being raised by a single mother on welfare

    lolwut? Where do you get this shit?

  41. 41
    EvolutionaryDesign says:

    Where’s Joe Beese to agree entirely with Kaus?

  42. 42
    cat48 says:

    I’ve just sorta had it with white folks this week.

  43. 43
    dollared says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, I miss Alterman. He can front page here anytime – he has the combination of historical awareness and willingness to snark that fits the model

  44. 44
    Cat says:

    Online Poker has been put down after its zombie corpse shambled around for the last 8 years. The FBI has seized the domains of the largest sites that service US players and froze the accounts to pay US players their winnings.

    http://www.google.com/hostedne.....2bb6a0.541

  45. 45
    Jay C says:

    Cost doesn’t go into why Obama managed to get to the top of politics without being all that good at it.

    “Not that good at it?” Let’s see: where have these two mens’ talents have taken them, to date:

    Mickey Kaus: hack journalist.
    Barack Obama: President of the United States.

    Somebody must have done something right along the way….

  46. 46
    NonyNony says:

    @Suffern ACE:

    Tell me again why Mickey Kaus is famous again?

    I believe he’s famous for engaging in non-consensual sexual activities with goats.

    Also for claiming to be a Democrat but spouting anti-liberal, anti-labor and anti-minority garbage. But guys like that are a dime-a-dozen so I’m going with the goats thing. That’s what I always remember him for anyway.

  47. 47
    Pangloss says:

    Nice timing, Mickey. Awesome post on the 64th anniversary of Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in MLB.

  48. 48
    Joel says:

    Mickey Kaus belongs on the street. Not much more to say about that.

  49. 49
    Peggy says:

    This thread wins thread of the week award.

  50. 50
    ruemara says:

    as a black progressive, I am fine with consensual goat blowers doing what they do in the privacy of their own barn. Just not spewing bullshit out into the ether as ‘punditry’.

  51. 51
    Amir_Khalid says:

    Isn’t this the Mickey Kaus who gave up a blog at Slate to run for Barbara Boxer’s US Senate seat? Nobody took his candidacy seriously. I remember he challenged her to a debate. She didn’t bother showing up. He ended up debating a cardboard box. He claimed victory over the box.

    For some reason, people kept right on not taking him seriously.

  52. 52

    Someone hand me a scorecard. First Obama was an elitist snob out of touch with Rul Murka, then he was a strange foreigner from some weird place named “Hawaii” (anyone know where that is?) and probably not even a citizen, then he was a Commie/Fascist/Soc1al1st/Naz1 (which as we all know are the same things) and then he was an Angry Negro Who Hates America and probably the son of Malcom X to boot, and now he’s an affirmative action baby?

    Why don’t they just call him a booger face and be done with it?

  53. 53
    jibeaux says:

    Yes, Obama’s appointment was definitely affirmative action. If it had been like the will of the people or something, that would obviously be different. That scenario would be more like Clarence Thomas.

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  55. 55
    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    Cost doesn’t go into why Obama managed to get to the top of politics without being all that good at it.

    Yeah, and why does everyone go around saying Warren Buffett is so goddam rich even though he doesn’t have any money?

  56. 56

    Someone hand me a scorecard. First Obama was an elitist snob out of touch with Real Merkins, then he was a strange foreigner from some weird place named “Hawaii” (anyone know where that is?) and probably not even a citizen, then he was a Comm1e/Fasc1st/Soshal1st/Naz1 (which as we all know are the same things) and then he was an Angry Negr0 Who Hates America and probably the son of Malcom X to boot, and now he’s an affirmative action baby?

    Why don’t they just call him a booger face and be done with it?

  57. 57
    jibeaux says:

    @ruemara:

    Hi, awesome lady! Wanted to thank you again for donating jewelry for teacher appreciation. You are giving them to teachers who are 45th in the nation in pay, if that helps.

    Ever’body please check out ruemara’s etsy page.

  58. 58

    @Just Some Fuckhead: What, exactly, are you ignorant about?

    The Obama had a single mother?

    Or that she was on welfare for part of his childhood?

    What a perfect internet moran you are! You somehow manage not to know some of the most widely-known information about the most scrutinized life story of modern times, and yet you mouth off authoritatively about that life story and strike a superior pose when you’re corrected.

    Love the “lolwut” before you pwn yourself. “Wow, I don’t know what you’re saying! You must be really stupid.” Too funny.

  59. 59
    Calouste says:

    I’ve always wondered why people pay attention to someone who willfully uses a name that is one letter away from the most famous rodent in history. Must be the goats. Although that makes me wonder about the, uh, physiscs of goat-rodent interaction.

  60. 60
    Bob L says:

    Obama’s the biggest affirmative action baby in history.

    That’s true, how many Secret Nazi-Muslim-Communist-American presidents have we had?

  61. 61
    DonkeyKong says:

    Some people get attention by being talented, others by shitting on the floor.

  62. 62

    Mikey Kaus is one of those faux leftists who thinks he’s being a thrilling, transgressive truth-teller by spouting racist bullshit.

  63. 63
    Poopyman says:

    @ruemara:

    as a black progressive, I am fine with consensual goat blowers doing what they do in the privacy of their own barn. Just not spewing bullshit out into the ether as ‘punditry’.

    That’s not “bullshit.” And not “spewing”.

    I’ve heard he swallows.

  64. 64
    DonkeyKong says:

    Wait a second, Kaus is going for the VP spot on the Trump ticket. Ha! that tricky little goat fucker!

  65. 65
    jibeaux says:

    He’s just pissy because Tumnus has stopped returning his calls.

  66. 66
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: Joe, you’re engaging in mythmaking. His mother may have been on welfare while she worked on her doctorate but he lived with his banker grandparents and went to the most elite prep school in Hawaii.

  67. 67

    I can think of a classier way to admit that you were wrong on the facts.

    Then again, I think I just put my finger on why you didn’t do that.

    Oh, and nice Google-fu. You’ve come a long way from having no idea what I was talking about, in a very short time, while you were on the internet.

    Smoove.

  68. 68
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @E.D. Kain: Or you’ll stalk me on every thread?

  69. 69
    gwangung says:

    Joe, you’re engaging in mythmaking. His mother may have been on welfare while she worked on her doctorate but he lived with his banker grandparents and went to the most elite prep school in Hawaii.

    Well, obviously, then, Mickey’s an Iolani boy.

  70. 70
    taylormattd says:

    Mickey Kaus, racist piece of shit. The end.

  71. 71
    PTirebiter says:

    I can’t remember ever hearing the term Affirmative Action Baby. Hire admission award etc. But baby, is it a fresh slur? I’m not sure anyone has ever accused Mmm-kay of being fresh.

  72. 72
    kth says:

    Kaus’ take is not outrageous so much as it is a maladroit, all-thumbs bit of trolling from someone desperate to matter. He has to say something this over-the-top, in order for anyone to take notice of him. That’s progress of a sort.

  73. 73
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: Why do we have to pretend he was a crack baby from the inner city? His dad went to Harvard, his stepdad was a college graduate and successful in Indonesia, his mom was educated with good employment when she wasn’t going to school full-time. His grandmother was vp of a bank.

    We should all have it so good.

  74. 74
    pragmatism says:

    was that brave, serious or braverious for mickey to say that? the new tone standards are confusing.

  75. 75
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Abe Lincoln’s family wasn’t all the poor either. George Washington and the cherry tree? Didn’t happen.

  76. 76
    AlladinsLamp says:

    @danimal: The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

  77. 77
    agrippa says:

    Kaus is a jackass.
    A true statement

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    Jennifer says:

    If only we had affirmative action for goat-blowing assclowns, Mickey might’ve won that Senate race.

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  80. 80

    I find that the language and concepts used by people who have a personal animus towards Barack Obama rarely tell me anything about Obama himself, but provide a very enlightening glimpse into those critics’ own shortcomings.

  81. 81

    Kaus is too liberal for me, but I don’t think he’s a dope. I’m struck, however, by the fact that the the hard left never actually engages any of his arguments. They just say things like “Kaus is a jackass,” knowing that they can count on their co-religionists to applaud. When they get really substantive, they give conclusory blather such as: Kaus hates unions; unions good; ergo Kaus stupid. Too easy.
    Why doesn’t one of you try to explain why one of Kaus’ off-the-liberal-plantation arguments is wrong, instead of just saying so?

  82. 82

    @kth:

    Kaus’ take is not outrageous so much as it is a maladroit, all-thumbs bit of trolling from someone desperate to matter. He has to say something this over-the-top, in order for anyone to take notice of him.

    Yeah, you see a lot of that, too.

  83. 83
    cynickal says:

    @TooManyJens:
    Beaten to the punch again.

    Has Mickey abandoned his beloved goats for Pat?
    It would be irresponsible to not speculate.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Why do we have to pretend he was a crack baby from the inner city?

    See?

    This is an excellent example of what I was talking about.

    Did anyone say he was a crack baby? Did anyone say he was from the inner city?

    Nope.

    Somebody made some interesting leaps, along a well-traveled road.

  85. 85
    gnomedad says:

    Is Rush still alive? Sounds like Kaus is channeling him.

  86. 86
    NonyNony says:

    Since this is an open thread, has anyone played with this yet?

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/taxreceipt

    The White House has a tax receipt app up on their website for 2010, showing where your money’s going.

    I like it – I’d like the ability to drill down for more details, but here’s something that I can hand to some of my right-wing family members and say “okay – you put your tax dollars in that app and you tell me what you want to cut and how much money you’re going to save from it”.

    I don’t think people really think about what they get for their tax dollars. This is a nice way to point out ‘hey – you get stuff for your money’.

  87. 87
    MattR says:

    @joe from Lowell: If you had to describe Obama’s economic situation, how would you do so? Was he living in poverty? Lower middle class? Solidly middle class? Upper Middle class? Upper class? Super wealthy?

  88. 88
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: All I can think is you must have really had a privileged upbringing to think Obama was slumming it somehow.

    Growing up, we were on government assistance for a time when dad had a back injury, operation and rehabilitation. We almost lost the house a coupla times but the church loaned us the money for the house payment.

    No one had an education past high school and our potential earnings were limited to hourly wages.

    Otherwise, I grew up in a solidly middle class home with a mother that didn’t have to work and a father with a solid civil service job and military retirement.

    And yet, Obama had it way better than us.

  89. 89
    General Stuck says:

    Somebody made some interesting leaps, along a well-traveled road.

    That’s just fuckhead, swinging from one stupid branch to another. Common sight

    And I thought Obama was a capitulator and worse than Bush by fine well scrubbed progressives. What happened?

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    montana says:

    Did Mickey ever make that goat an honest animal?

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    This is only a workable theory if we also have affirmative action for the stupid.

    I present to you the Yale legacy admission of one George W. Bush.

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    @danimal:

    sorry, i am not buying it, i need to see the certificate from 4 out of 5 dentists who work with patients who blow goats that mickey kaus does not blow goats.

    i hearby declare by the trident standard that until he can prove otherwise, mickey kaus indeed blows goats.

  93. 93
    gnomedad says:

    Consider this an open thread.

    Good luck with that.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @joe from Lowell: I love it how large they loom in your consciousness. Tell us, when they haunt your nightmares, what kinds of facial hair do they have?

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    MikeF says:

    Kaus isn’t technically correct in the facts and truth sense of the word, but I think we can all agree that he deserves credit for touching one of the third rails of blogging by making the President’s affirmative action status a topic for respectable discussion.

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    pragmatism says:

    the frothy mixture finally learned where his now ex campaign slogan comes from, with smelly results.
    http://politicalwire.com/archi.....logan.html

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    General Stuck says:

    @Corner Stone:

    And Robin arrives in the Batmobile. Somebody ought to get a camera and start filming all of this. It could be the next sitcom about nothing.

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    dogwood says:

    Wow Kaus must be desperate for readership, I have to admit I’d forgotten about him. I guess I wasn’t the only one,

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    E.D. Kain says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: you’re damn right.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @General Stuck: Shouldn’t you be burning gloves somewhere over a campfire, and sifting the ashes?

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    @gnomedad:

    Is Rush still alive? Sounds like Kaus is channeling him.

    It’s only a matter of time before Kaus drops Limbuagh’s famous “Sigh, you can’t even criticize Barack Obamaq without being called a racist!” line to cover his ass.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: You have to remember, he’s been taught by the best. The absolute best.

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    @MattR:

    If you had to describe Obama’s economic situation, how would you do so?

    Wildly diverse. Difficult to pigeonhole.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @E.D. Kain: Great. All I need to do now is stalk HG-W/m_c, and the circle will be complete.

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    General Stuck says:

    @Corner Stone:

    And release an unspanked cornerstone on civilization. I don’t think so. My conscience won’t allow visiting such horror on mankind. Or at least on the blogosphere. I will be done here when I am done, and not before.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    All I can think is you must have really had a privileged upbringing to think Obama was slumming it somehow.

    Your problem with thinking expresses itself in a lot of ways.

    @Corner Stone:

    I love it how large they loom in your consciousness.

    “They,” who? Who are you talking about? Mickey Kaus?

    I can see that you really, really feel strongly about getting back at me for all the times I’ve called you out for your weird little obsession, but your comment doesn’t make any sense. See, this is actually a thread about an Obama critic whose description of the president has nothing to do with him, and stems from his own oft-demonstrated issues, so I made a comment about that. It’s really not the same thing as you making some kind of irrelevant comment about me, like you often do, because you’re all torn up inside.

  107. 107
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Wildly diverse. Difficult to pigeonhole.

    Mythology. This is why it’s impossible to have a rational conversation with Obots. Welfare baby, streets of Chicago, achievement based solely on being the smartest human being who ever lived, plays 11 dimensional chess blindfolded and always wins no matter who wins..

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    Corner Stone says:

    @joe from Lowell: I’m laughing at you, clown. Everyone here but you gets that.
    Or shorter me:
    What aimai said.

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    @General Stuck: He’s so angry about all the times I pointed out his weird little obsession with me that he…well, he jumped into a thread to try to insult me, and managed to remind everyone of the line I use to mock his weird little obsession with me.

    Because he just couldn’t stop himself.

    So awesome.

  110. 110
    MattR says:

    @joe from Lowell: Wildly diverse? Did he spend part of his childhood in a hut eating bread and water and part in a mansion being fed caviar? I thought it was pretty safe to say that Obama came from a middle class lifestyle which included some rough patches for the family. But I did not think he went through any wild swings in lifestyle.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Mythology.

    Uh, yeah, nothing diverse or difficult to pigeonhole about Obama’s upbringing. umwut?

    …streets of Chicago…

    Wow.

    You just can’t help yourself, can you?

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    ISTR that Obama got a scholarship to go to Punahou School.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Joe, I don’t really understand what point you think yer making. Can you help me out?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: He is a pinball wizard; seriously, the song was written about him.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @joe from Lowell: You loom large in the consciousness of everyone here joe.

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    @Corner Stone:

    Everyone here but you gets that.

    No, we all see you doing the forced-laughter thing. We all know what you think you’re doing.

    I’m just pointing out that UR not doin it rite.

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    Cheryl from Maryland says:

    @jibeaux: Winner of the thread’s geek award!

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    gnomedad says:

    he lived with his banker grandparents and went to the most elite prep school in Hawaii.

    Interesting that the wingers don’t mention this more; I guess it’s dissonant with the birther narrative. But that’s what makes this country great: any secret Kenyan Mooslim can grow up to be an elitist (affirmative action variety).

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    Bob Loblaw says:

    @MattR:

    Wildly diverse? Did he spend part of his childhood in a hut eating bread and water and part in a mansion being fed caviar?

    So we’re just ignoring the fact that he lived in Indonesia for all those years, huh?

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    The Other Chuck says:

    Obama sponsored and got passed more major legislation in his less than single term in the senate than John McCain has for his entire career.

    Oh but he black so it’s okay to say it, right?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @joe from Lowell: I love that. Am I looming on this thread now?

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    Suck It Up! says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Its just another way of saying “Obama is not one of us” or he’s “not black enough” so that’s why he isn’t acting like the stereotypical black guy we thought he was.

    Just Some Fuck..you sound very bitter. And I would probably understand that feeling if Obama was pretending to be from the ghetto or if he behaved as if he was better than everyone else, but he doesn’t. It doesn’t matter who he grew up with or how much money his grandparents had, he is still a black man living in America and is not immune to any of the discrimination and abuse that a “crack baby” would face. Despite all that “wealth and white privelege” (good grief you’re a…) Obama worked hard to get where he is today. Don’t you dare put him in the same category as George bush.

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    @MattR: Lots of middle class families have “rough patches.” Few of them involve being given to your grandparents because your mother can’t afford to raise you. Few involve attending public school with, and living in and among, Indonesian public school students.

    Think about that: this is someone whose classmates have included poor Indonesian students, and also the scions of Hawaii’ls landowning families. I’d say he’s had more insight into the lives of people at different levels on the economic scale than the vast majority of Americans.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Bob Loblaw:

    So we’re just ignoring the fact that he lived in Indonesia for all those years, huh?

    You realize he wasn’t living in the jungles of Indonesia, right? Or are you being funny?

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    @Corner Stone:

    Am I looming on this thread now?

    Nope, you’re writing things to me, and I’m answering them.

    Looming would be what I was doing in your mind, that made you jump irrelevantly into the thread to begin with.

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    MattR says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Think about that: this is someone whose classmates have included Indonesian students whose parents couldn’t give them shoes, and also the scions of Hawaii’ls landowning families.

    Yes this gives you more insight into a variety of lifestyles, but that does not mean that Obama was living those wildly divergent lifestyles. He may have had more life experiences than a typical American but economically speaking he was pretty much a middle class guy.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Suck It Up!:

    Indeed. As Chris Rock points out, even though he’s got lots of money, no white man in his right mind would want to be Chris Rock.

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    General Stuck says:

    For the newly converted fair weather Obama supporters. Obama unplugged/

    In what he thought was a private chat — but was overheard by CBS News — President Obama offered “the most revealing behind-the-scenes account to date of his budget negotiations with GOP leaders last week.”

    Specifically, Obama complained of GOP attempts to kill parts of his health care reform law: “You want to repeal health care? Go at it. We’ll have that debate. You’re not going to be able to do that by nickel-and-diming me in the budget. You think we’re stupid? … Put it in a separate bill. We’ll call it up. And if you think you can overturn my veto, try it. But don’t try to sneak this through.'”

    This is your president.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @joe from Lowell: I love it that I’m looming so large in your consciousness.

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    Comrade DougJ says:

    @Jim O’Sullivan:

    Are you for real?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Alright, Obots. You win. He’s the modern day Abe Lincoln, born in a Kenyan hut, raised in an Indonesian hut, and scraped by on nothing but guts, smarts and government assistance.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    You realize he wasn’t living in the jungles of Indonesia, right?

    Actually, he was living in converted servants quarters that his mother rented on someone’s estate.

    That’s after they moved up in the world a little bit, and got out of the poor neighborhood.

    Seriously, you can actually look this information up. You don’t have to just check your gut.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Dude, living in Indonesia is pretty fucking diverse compared to, for example, growing up living the entire time in a suburb of Kansas City. Just sayin’.

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    Tonybrown74 says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    How do you extrapolate “Jungles” from “lived in Indonesia”? Do you assume that we don’t know that Indonesia has cities, and modern amenities?

    Really??

    And another thing. How is “single mother on welfare” synonymous with “crack baby from the inner city?”

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    @MattR:

    Yes this gives you more insight into a variety of lifestyles, but that does not mean that Obama was living those wildly divergent lifestyles.

    Yes, that was a bit of a digression.

    economically speaking he was pretty much a middle class guy

    Well, in the sense that he was never desperately poor, nor very rich. He was “middle class” in the sense that 90% of the American public describes themselves as middle class, but within that range, he move around an awful lot.

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    danimal says:

    @Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: Since I am the biggest supporter of Kaus on this thread, I’ll just repeat my point: there is no proof that Mickey Kaus blows goats.

    I’ll concede that there has been a lot of discussion about whether Mickey Kaus blows goats, but no one has proven that he does, in fact, blow goats.

    Some hacks may imply that Mickey Kaus blows goats because he has not made a statement denying that he, Mickey Kaus, blows goats. But since we’re not hacks, we won’t let the absence of a denial serve to prove or disprove anything.

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    Davebo says:

    Lots of middle class families have “rough patches.” Few of them involve being given to your grandparents because your mother can’t afford to raise you.

    Seriously?

    More than 10 percent of children under the age of two live with their grandparents; 3 percent of children 15 to 17 years old do so.

    Approximately 4.5 million grandparents, or 9.8 percent, head a grandparent-grandchild household at any one time. The number of grandparents and grandchildren who have ever lived together at any point in their lives is higher, since many grandchildren live with grandparents for a relatively short time.

    Seriously, let it go already.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Actually, he was living in converted servants quarters that his mother rented on someone’s estate.

    From Wiki: In October 1967, Dunham and her six-year-old son moved to Jakarta to rejoin her husband. Soetoro, his wife and stepson initially lived in a new modest stucco and red tile house at 16 Kyai Haji Ramli Tengah Street in a newly-built neighborhood in the Menteng Dalam administrative village of the Tebet subdistrict in South Jakarta for two and a half years..

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    @Suck It Up!: I like the way Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege has now been crabwalked back to “He wan’t that poor, and let’s just forget that whole white thing entirely.”

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Davebo: He didn’t live with his grandparents because his mom couldn’t afford him. He lived with grandparents because he got accepted into the Punahou School in Hawaii where they lived.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @danimal: Where is his plan for not blowing goats? Huh? You expect us to take you seriously if you can’t articulate a plan where Kaus does not blow goats?

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    @Corner Stone:

    I love it that I’m looming so large in your consciousness.

    Clearly. That’s why you’re working so hard at it.

    Maybe if you up your game a little bit, you’ll get to know what it’s like to have fans who can’t stop writing about you, even when you’re not there and have nothing to do with the thread.

    But I shouldn’t mock the less able.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Tonybrown74:

    How do you extrapolate “Jungles” from “lived in Indonesia”?

    Because Bob Loblaw was responding to a comment series that included “living in a hut eating bread.”

    Ya know, just implying racistracistracistracist over and over isn’t changing the facts of his upbringing. It’s lazy and unproductive.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    He’s the modern day Abe Lincoln, born in a Kenyan hut, raised in an Indonesian hut, and scraped by on nothing but guts, smarts and government assistance.

    So, when did you join the Tea Party, Just Some Fuckhead the Plumber?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Davebo: Could you expound a little more on your comment, please? I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

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    Bruce S says:

    I have come to the conclusion, reading bits of this thread, that Just Some F**khead is just some f**khead.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @joe from Lowell: Looming. Looooominnnngggg.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Bruce S: Thank you.

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    @Davebo:

    More than 10 percent of children under the age of two live with their grandparents; 3 percent of children 15 to 17 years old do so.

    And 25% of children in America live in poverty.

    Point?

    Seriously, let it go already.

    Let what go?

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    @Just Some Fuckhead: Yes, that

    newly-built neighborhood in the Menteng Dalam administrative village of the Tebet subdistrict in South Jakarta

    was, like most government projects, the poor neighborhood. Not exactly posh by Indonesian standards, and certainly not by American standards.

    Then, like I already explained to you, they moved out of that neighborhood, and started renting an out-building on a property in a good neighborhood.

    Why are you quoting information I already know to me?

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Ya know, just implying racistracistracistracist over and over

    Yes, Rush, you can’t even criticize Obama without being called a racist.

    Poor thing.

    I know: how about you stop making so damn easy?

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    Uloborus says:

    @danimal:
    True, there is no evidence. At least, no conclusive evidence. I have multiple anonymous sources assuring me that he blows goats, and you can see the lengthy discussion the question has engendered. I think we are obligated to bring this question to the center of public discourse, discuss all of the sides, remind everyone at length about the moral complications of blowing goats, and let each individual decide if THEY think Mickey Kaus blows goats.

    As an added bonus, I propose it be done with a ‘Mickey Kaus Blows Goats?’ headline?

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    @Corner Stone: Troll. Trooooooollllllll.

    I love that I don’t have to goad you, or mention you at all, to get you to obsess over me like this. Heck, I don’t even have to be on the thread. You just can’t stop yourself.

    I admit it; I love that.

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    You know, maybe if more people had a more diverse upbringing, or perhaps made an effort to widen their horizons later in life, they wouldn’t read “newly built by the government” (the Indonesian government!) and think “ooh, cushy!”

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    Catsy says:

    @Jim O’Sullivan:

    Kaus is too liberal for me, but I don’t think he’s a dope. I’m struck, however, by the fact that the the hard left never actually engages any of his arguments. They just say things like “Kaus is a jackass,” knowing that they can count on their co-religionists to applaud. When they get really substantive, they give conclusory blather such as: Kaus hates unions; unions good; ergo Kaus stupid. Too easy.
    Why doesn’t one of you try to explain why one of Kaus’ off-the-liberal-plantation arguments is wrong, instead of just saying so?

    “Co-religionists”?

    Setting aside the fact that this was the point in your comment where anyone with a functioning brain stopped taking you seriously, I’ll bite.

    Kaus wrote:

    Cost doesn’t go into why Obama managed to get to the top of politics without being all that good at it. The answer is distressingly obvious: Obama’s the biggest affirmative action baby in history.

    Which part of this delusional idiocy are you defending?

    If someone stands on a street corner shouting about the psychic powers he’s gained from the V-chip placed in his head by the Queen of England, the appropriate response is not to engage this insanity in reasoned discourse and explain the many ways in which his delusions are logically inconsistent. The correct response is to either mock, or–if you’re feeling more charitable–just ignore him outright.

    This racist crap about Obama being “not good at politics” and having become POTUS because of “affirmative action” is only a few angstroms less unhinged than the V-chip guy.

    Better trolls, please.

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    gwangung says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: To us folks of the Asian kind, actually, your statements DO sound racist.

    Might want to ratchet it back a bit. But no skin off my nose if you don’t.

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    I’ll bite, too:

    distressingly obvious

    Obvious, meaning, immediately or readily apparent.

    So, what is it about Barack Obama that makes it immediately or readily apparent that he got to where he is because of affirmative action?

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    gwangung says:

    So, what is it about Barack Obama that makes it immediately or readily apparent that he got to where he is because of affirmative action?

    He uses tele-prompters.

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    MattR says:

    @gwangung: Don’t know if this helps, but I think JSF was actually defending Indonesia. He was replying to the argument that Obama lived in Indonesia and therefore he was poor with the argument that living in Indonesia does not mean that you live in the middle of the jungles. You are still in a civilized society. Perhaps not artfully done, but I believe that was the intent.

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    Uncle Clarence Thomas says:

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    Obama’s the biggest affirmative action baby in history.

    Is not!
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    gwangung says:

    @MattR: Quite probable. But I have great experience with well meaning people who put feet in their mouths quite whole heartedly. Granted, that applies to more than one person in this topic, but…

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    OT: When you type “Mickey” into Google, and it provides you with popular selections, the top choice, above even “Mickey Mouse,” is “Mickey Ward.”

    The Pride of Lowell.

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    General Stuck says:

    RIP JSF

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    Bob Loblaw says:

    I’m still confused as to how some don’t see a huge degree of difference between what would be considered middle class in post-coup Indonesia to some swank ass American prep school in Honolulu? WTF.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: Joe, only you can characterize a college educated couple both working careers in their field as “poor”.

    I guess that’s the same logic that makes our regime change efforts in Libya a “humanitarian mission”.

    I admire your ability to look at Obama and see the disadvantaged child of a single mom on welfare. I look at him and see the child of educated upwardly mobile careerists that went on to attend the most elite prep school in Hawaii and live with his affluent grandparents.

    I guess this is one of those tomato/tomahto things.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Hey, I just realized I’m the child of a single mom that was on welfare. Mom was single after she divorced dad and before she married dad #2 and then years and years later when dad #2 couldn’t get civil service disability benefits quick enough, we got government cheese.

    Let’s call it The Mythology of Fuckhead.

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    Arundel says:

    @Mr. Long Form: You got it- it’s not blindness, it’s totally Rovian politics- attack Dems on their strengths. Kerry was a war hero, so they did their worst with that. Obama is a powerful orator, so they say he needs a Teleprompter, etc.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Why do we have to pretend he was a crack baby from the inner city? His dad went to Harvard, his stepdad was a college graduate and successful in Indonesia, his mom was educated with good employment when she wasn’t going to school full-time. His grandmother was vp of a bank.

    Because the crazies and those afflicted with racial anxiety cannot look at Obama and see a person with a specific individual story, let alone a person like themselves.

    Sarah Palin can be considered to be a daughter of Alaska. Obama is just black, blacketty black black (even though Hawaiians happily claim Obama as one of their own).

    And consider: breaks and privileges are fine for everyone else. Conservatives claimed that Bush learned about presidenting on his daddy’s knee, and thought it fine that he got into Yale as a legacy admit (AKA affirmative action for the elite). PUMAs and others were happy snappy over Hillary Clinton’s claims that being in or near the Oval Office gave her commander-in-chief cred, that her claim to be vetted wasn’t just a form of nepotism.

    And yet Obama, who had none of these advantages, is illegitimate. You also get the queasy feeling that vile little weasals like Kaus believe that every nonwhite person in America who is not an athlete or entertainer got where they are through affirmative action, with a small, hypocritical exception made for conservative nonwhites.

    It is truly sickening.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I guess that’s the same logic that makes our regime change efforts in Libya a “humanitarian mission”.

    What the hell else would you call it? We saved 100,000 at Benghazi, aka Srebernica South. And, yeah, we’ve killed a few friendlies but that’s just due to the fog of war.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Joe, only you can characterize a college educated couple both working careers in their field as “poor”.

    Good thing I never did that, then. In point of fact, I described being a single mother on welfare as “poor.” (You do know that Obama’s father died when he was an infant, right? That he wasn’t raised by both of his parents?)

    I look at him and see the child of educated upwardly mobile careerists…

    Holy crap, you don’t! Ha ha ha!

    You are now making things up to attribute to me. Good sign that you’re on solid ground!

    I guess that’s the same logic that makes our regime change efforts in Libya a “humanitarian mission”.

    Well, no, the logic that makes the salvation of Benghazi and support for the protesters a humanitarian intervention isn’t completely made up by you and attributed to me, so no, it’s not the same.

    Hey, I just realized I’m the child of a single mom that was on welfare. Mom was single after she divorced dad and before she married dad #2 and then years and years later when dad #2 couldn’t get civil service disability benefits quick enough, we got government cheese.

    So, basically, a life defined by wealth and white privilege.

    If you had a corner man, he’d be shouting “Stay down!”

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    @danimal:

    i can certainly appreciate your defense of goats, not necessarily mickey kaus.

    however, the truth is perception, if the perception is widely held. as unfair as it may be to goats, enough people have said that mickey kaus blows goats, that it is effectively true.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Corner Stone: Stop teasing me. I’m feeling pretty disadvantaged right now. I didn’t realize we were hanging out with such swanky folks.

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    jaleh says:

    I love the title and reminds of what Letterman said about Trump
    “Trump can’t find his birth certificate because he is half Jack and half Ass”.

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    jaleh says:

    BTW: Who is Mickey Kaus? This is the first time I’ve heard of this person.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    As an added bonus, I propose it be done with a ‘Mickey Kaus Blows Goats?’ headline?

    I believe the correct, Brit Hume approved construction here would be “Some people say Micky Kaus blows goats.”

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    Robin, I’m feeling low.

    Don’t feel low, Batman! I think you’re awesome!

    Yeah, we are pretty awesome, aren’t we?

    Yeah, we’re the awesomest!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I love it that I’m looming so large in your consciousness right now.
    Tell blah, in your blah blah what does my blah blah look blah?

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    Uncle Clarence Thomas says:

    @Corner Stone:
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    Corner, President Obama clearly and eloquently said “days, not weeks” of Libyan warfare on March 18. If you will kindly check your calendar, you will see that President Obama did not lie, because from March 18 to today, April 15 is clearly X number of days. He said days, and he meant days. Did he or did he not say “days”? Let me be clear – the man does not have a prevaricating bone in his body.

    You? I’m starting to think you don’t want to Win The Future.
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    .

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: You said they lived in a poor neighborhood in Indonesia. It was, in fact, a modest home in a new neighborhood.

    You also tried to falsely characterize renting the servant’s quarters on an estate as more evidence of their impoverishment.

    They were educated, both had careers in their respective fields, both were upwardly mobile.

    ETA: Stanley wasn’t a single mom in Indonesia. She had a husband.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Corner Stone: Boots Onna My Neck!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Uncle Clarence Thomas: Uncle Clarence Thomas, you are WRONG. There is easily no one more than me who wants to Win The Future.
    I saw the speech, I read the transcript. The Future is to be Won. By me.

    And also, I love how large I am looming your consciousness right now.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Seriously. If you damn fools keep forgetting the ™ you risk the possibility of bringing The Fragile Ego(tm) !! back.
    She will avenge. Avenge!!*

    *Mainly through twitter, but still…avenge.

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    danimal says:

    @jaleh: Some say, without proof, that Kaus is a goat-blower. Others contend, without dealing with the goat-blowing charge, that he is a blowhard blogger. These critics point to the alleged proclivity of Mr. Kaus to make ridiculous charges/conspiracy theories and demand that the subject of these charges prove their innocence. A lack of response by the subject is subsequently considered to be a tacit admission of guilt.

    As Mickey Kaus’ biggest defender, I’ll just state again that there is no conclusive proof that Mickey Kaus blows goats. The rumors and innuendos may appear to lead in that direction, but so far no goats have come forward to substantiate the charges.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    You said they lived in a poor neighborhood in Indonesia. It was, in fact, a modest home in a new neighborhood.

    You do know the words “poor” and “new” are not contradictory, right?

    That public housing is frequently both “new” and “poor?”

    Anyway, so now you’re crab-walking it back from Joe, only you can characterize a college educated couple both working careers in their field as “poor”. to it was, in fact, a modest home in a new neighborhood.

    Tell you what, you get your story straight, so I can pwn that, too.

    You also tried to falsely characterize renting the servant’s quarters on an estate as more evidence of their impoverishment.

    Servants quarters on an estate in Indonesia. And did it pretty damn well, since renting servants quarters in Indonesia to live, and counting that as moving up, is evidence of not having much money.

    They were educated, both had careers in their respective fields, both were upwardly mobile.

    …in Indonesia, where they lived in a project until they “moved up” to renting servants quarters.

    Stanley wasn’t a single mom in Indonesia.

    Nor was she on welfare in Indonesia.

    Keep digging. This is fun.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    It was, in fact, a modest home in a new neighborhood.

    Oh, look, more Google-fu.

    Did you happen to notice that the story you’re ripping off – the one that describes both of their homes as “modest” – was from an Indonesian newspaper?

    By the standards of Indonesian newspapers, they lived in “modest” homes. So, clearly, Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

    (Just an FYI, I would expect to see that link and quote an awful lot, if you decide you want to keep commenting here.)

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: I’m not digging anything Joe. Again, we’re clearly from two completely different social strata. I’m looking up at Obama, the child of college educated careerists, afforded every opportunity to experience the world, woken up every morning at 4am to be educated specially by his mom, able to attend the most elite prep school in Hawaii while living with his affluent white grandparents.

    Meanwhile, yer grasping at straws in much the same way I created myself as the product of a single mom on welfare earlier in the thread to prove.. what?

    When was his mom on welfare?

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    jaleh says:

    @danimal:
    Thanks, THAT helps a lot!!!

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Again, we’re clearly from two completely different social strata.

    If I was in your position, I’d probably make some desperate move to gain audience sympathy, too.

    afforded every opportunity to experience the world, woken up every morning at 4am to be educated specially by his mom

    I suppose that’s one way to describe living in a bad neighborhood in a third world country, and then renting servants quarters

    Yup, just had everything handed to him, didn’t he?

    Meanwhile, yer grasping at straws…

    Ah, yes, that must be why everyone except Corner Stone who has commented on this has mocked and corrected you. Because of how poorly this is going for me.

    When was his mom on welfare?

    Why, when she was in school. You know, the standard experience of someone whose entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege – your mom needs to get a degree so she can have a career after being widowed with a young child, so she goes on welfare and sends you to live with her parents.

    Keep ’em coming.

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    Uncle Clarence Thomas says:

    @Corner Stone:
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    There is easily no one more than me who wants to Win The Future.

    Yea verily, if you say it, I will believe it. Which, I believe, is qualification #1 for WTF.

    The Future is to be Won. By me.

    Please allow me to assist you with psychological resistance technique training, and charisma.

    And also, I love how large I am looming your consciousness right now.

    I freely admit that you are looming so large that my consciousness is backed into a corner, Corner.
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    .

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Why, when she was in school.

    When, exactly?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    your mom needs to get a degree so she can have a career after being widowed with a young child, so she goes on welfare and sends you to live with her parents.

    lolz

    You realize this isn’t even close to the history of Stanley Ann Dunham, right?

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    Amir_Khalid says:

    @danimal:

    Mickey Kaus strikes me as a first-class twit, but I don’t see why his bringing happiness to billy goats (if indeed this is what he does) should be whispered about as if it were something disreputable.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead: Do your own homework.

    You think I’m going to help you out?

    No, I’m going to keep pointing and laughing at you as you make increasingly-desperate attempts to salvage some dignity from this Titantic of a fight you picked.

    Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

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    Look, I’ll give an opportunity to leave with a shred of dignity.

    When you wrote “Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege,” you misspoke, right?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    During this time, her parents helped her raise the young Obama. Dunham filed for divorce in January 1964, which Obama Sr. did not contest.[1] Obama Sr. received a M.A. in economics from Harvard in 1965[29] and in 1971, he came to Hawaii and visited his son Barack, then 10 years old; it was the last time he would see his son. In 1982, Obama Sr. was killed in a car accident.

    From the wiki entry on Stanley Ann Dunham.

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    Bob Loblaw says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    your mom needs to get a degree so she can have a career after being widowed with a young child, so she goes on welfare and sends you to live with her parents.

    Um, widowed?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Look, I’ll give an opportunity to leave with a shred of dignity.

    Is this because you totally fubarred the whole “widowed with an infant child” thing?

    Christ, you always screw the pooch royally if allowed to go on long enough.

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    eemom says:

    so, Kaus said Obama is an “affirmative action baby,” and fuckhead says that’s “absurd” because:

    Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

    which is another way of saying the same thing Kaus said, i.e., that Obama “got to the top without being all that good.”

    Also too, “white privilege.” Interesting choice of words.

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    General Stuck says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    got it bookmarked as fuckhead’s jungle thread. It will live in infamy. via the internets.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    This is why I never argue on the intertoobz, Joe. You are just as dumb as when we started two hours ago and I’ll never get those two hours back.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    You realize this isn’t even close to the history of Stanley Ann Dunham, right?

    Except for writing “widowed” instead of “abandoned,” it is precisely the history of Ms. Dunham.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Except for writing “widowed” instead of “abandoned,” it is precisely the history of Ms. Dunham.

    No, because you suggested she had to go to college to get a degree after being widowed. They met in college.

    You’ve got the whole narrative fubarred.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    And for what Joe? Why is it necessary to make Obama out as a disadvantaged welfare kid?

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    This is why I never argue on the intertoobz, Joe.

    Wow.

    You have as little self-awareness as you have knowledge of the world around you.

    You are just as dumb as when we started two hours ago

    Actually, I’d say I now understand even more how a cornered rat behaves.

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    eemom says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Why is it necessary to make him out as a scion of “white privilege”?

    Which is what you did, that began this entire exchange.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: And yet, you still fubarred your entire narrative and we still don’t know when she was on welfare because she was never actually widowed.

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    @Bob Loblaw:

    Um, widowed?

    Yeah, fast fingers there. Corrected.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    Stupid internet thread. It seems to have gone haywire again.

    @joe from Lowell: Don’t you have some baby, or something like that, what needs cooing over?

    @Just Some Fuckhead:
    Don’t you have…ummm…drawing a blank…someplace to go and oggle?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Suffern ACE: Yeah, it’s billiards night and I need to start cleaning. Thanks for the intervention.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    And for what Joe? Why is it necessary to make Obama out as a disadvantaged welfare kid?

    I didn’t “make him out to be a welfare kid.” What I did is refute what is going to go down in history as your epitaph:

    Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

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    E.D. Kain says:

    @Jim O’Sullivan: his “arguments is wrong” because they is stupid and contain no substance…I’m sorry if calling him a jackass made you haz a sad though.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    And yet, you still fubarred your entire narrative

    Nope. I wrote “widowed” instead of “abandoned.” You’re grasping at straws, pretending that a woman left alone with a young child by a husband that left her is not materially harmed, while a woman left alone with a young child by a husband that died is.

    Apparently, the difference between the two amounts to “wealth and white privilege.”

    we still don’t know when she was on welfare…

    I don’t know who, other than you, doesn’t know when she was on welfare. I certainly do. I’d bet that everyone reading this does. I’m just not going to tell you, because I like watching you squirm.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: And you haven’t said anything to refute that. You just invented a story about how his mom was widowed or abandoned when Barack was an infant and she went on welfare while she scrambled for a degree so she could support him.

    Nothing like that happened, you know.

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    cbear says:

    @joe from lowell:

    We saved 100,000 at Benghazi, aka Srebernica South. And, yeah, we’ve killed a few friendlies but that’s just due to the fog of war.

    Hey Sarge, thought you and the troops would have had that little mess cleaned up by now? I’m suprised to see you posting today, just taking a little break from the action are we?

    Sad to hear about the wogs but, hey, shit happens.
    You were probably just temporarily blinded by the dust and cordite and trying to lay down some cover for your boys with the SAW when everything went FUBAR, right?

    See you back in the world, killer. Stay safe.

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    @Suffern ACE:

    Don’t you have some baby, or something like that, what needs cooing over?

    Actually, I was feeding him one-handed between 5:45 and 6:30. Awesome little guy.

    Sox time, though.

    God, this was fun. Especially the last gasp: “Aha! You wrote ‘widowed,’ but actually, her husband left her! No way I lost this argument!”

    It’s always fun to kick a bully’s ass.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Joe, I accept that you have no idea about Barack’s early upbringing. What I don’t understand is how you can continue to cling to your false narrative after being corrected.

    I also would like you to tell me when Stanley Ann Dunham was on welfare.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @cbear: cbear, Stuck swore you hadn’t been here in years and said you couldn’t be in our cracker pack. Would you please tell him he’s wrong?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @E.D. Kain: Damn kid. I think the ceiling cat haz u naow.
    So matoko won, afterall. Who woulda guessed?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Actually, I was feeding him one-handed between 5:45 and 6:30. Awesome little guy.

    You should put some pics on flickr. We like babies.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    And you haven’t said anything to refute that.

    Uh huh. Is that one of those JSF things, like “I don’t argue on the intertoobz?” Anyway, I guess you mind when I paste that quote an link every time you show your face on this site, then.

    You just invented a story about how his mom was widowed or abandoned when Barack was an infant

    Uh, yeah, I invented that story about how his father left his mother when he was a baby, and she had to send him to her parents and go on welfare to finish her degree. Made it up, purely out of my own head.

    On August 4, 1961, at the age of 18, Dunham gave birth to her first child, Barack Obama II…When Obama Sr. graduated from the University of Hawaii in June 1962, he was offered a scholarship to study in New York City[28] but he declined it, preferring to attend the more prestigious Harvard University.[17] He left for Cambridge, Massachusetts, where he would begin graduate study at Harvard in the fall of 1962.[16] Dunham returned to Honolulu and resumed her undergraduate education at the University of Hawaii with the spring semester in January 1963. During this time, her parents helped her raise the young Obama. Dunham filed for divorce in January 1964, which Obama Sr. did not contest

    (BTW, that’s from the quote YOU pasted earlier.)

    But besides having to go on welfare and send her son to live with her parents so she could finish college after her husband left her, what else have I said to disprove the statement Obama’s whole life has been defined by wealth and white privilege?

    Well, there’s the living-in-a-poor-neighborhood-in-Indonesia thing. And the renting-servants-quarters-and-considering-it-a-step-up thing.

    And not being white. And enduring racial slurs.

    But I totally haven’t disproved the statement Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

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    cbear says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:
    Sure thing, bro.

    Stuck, you wuz wrong.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: So you are saying she was on welfare 1963-64ish? Careful now, this could be a trap.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @cbear: Thanks cbear. Sometimes I think Stuck lives in an alternate universe.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Joe, I accept that you have no idea about Barack’s early upbringing.

    You “accept” a lot of things. You “accept” the notion that Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege, for instance. So?

    What I don’t understand is how you can continue to cling to your false narrative after being corrected.

    Actually, the only correction was to the word “widowed,” and I acknowledged the error and fixed it. Not so much with the clinging, and not so much with the false.

    I also would like you to tell me when Stanley Ann Dunham was on welfare.

    I’m sure you would.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @joe from Lowell: Just so I have this clear. You were feeding your newborn son while lying here at BJ?
    Do you even have a child?

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    General Stuck says:

    @cbear:

    Stuck, you wuz wrong.

    the wogs

    reckon I was. sorry to hear it

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    @cbear: Yawn.

    Seeing all of those live brown people really pisses you off, doesn’t it?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @General Stuck:

    reckon I was. sorry to hear it

    I believe that apology was meant for me.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Sometimes I think Stuck lives in an alternate universe.

    Actually, we all know Stuck is an agoraphobic shut-in who lives only within the confines of his apartment.
    They deliver cases of tomato sauce to him there.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: He’s gonna crawfish from here on in. That’s how he looms large in our consciousnesses.

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    cbear says:

    @joe from Lowell: Seeing some asswipe keyboard kommando dismissing the death of those brown people you pretend to care so much about with “And, yeah, we’ve killed a few friendlies but that’s just due to the fog of war” pisses me off, you fuck.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Corner Stone: Jesus, he’s a piece of work. All he had to say was “I don’t think Obama had the privileges of wealth and white people in his life” and we coulda agreed to disagree, based on our wildly different ideas about what constitutes wealth and privilege.

    But he has to invent a story about poor Obama growing up in poverty with a mom on welfare.

    It’s baffling to me.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    So you are saying she was on welfare 1963-64ish?

    Actually, I’m deliberately not telling you, because it’s fun to watch you squirm. But no, that’s neither the time frame nor the degree I was talking about.

    Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege.

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    General Stuck says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    not hardly

    @Corner Stone:

    I don’t know how anyone as pitiful as you gets through the day without blowing their brains out.

    Me, shut in. Nope. nearly deaf, yep, and why I spend too much fucking time on the internet and on blogs with warmed over piss like you. I am working on changing that though.

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    @cbear: Good. You have nothing worth saying, nothing worth reading, and the fact that I pissed you off pleases me.

    BTW, the “keyboard commando” thing doesn’t refer to someone who disagrees with you about a war. It refers to people who claim that the things they write on the internet are part of a war.

    But nice try.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Actually, I’m deliberately not telling you, because it’s fun to watch you squirm. But no, that’s neither the time frame nor the degree I was talking about.

    Ooooooh.. the catty approach.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    But he has to invent a story about poor Obama growing up in poverty

    I have never, not a single time, stated that he grew up in poverty. You are making up a position to attribute to me because you don’t have a prayer in the world of refuting what I’ve actually written.

    …with a mom on welfare.

    A documented, and widely-known fact, the denial of which you consider to be your last, desperate hope of salvaging something less than a total loss.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @General Stuck:

    I am working on changing that though.

    Is there anything we can do to expedite your transition?

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    eemom says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    All he had to say was “I don’t think Obama had the privileges of wealth and white people in his life” and we coulda agreed to disagree

    dear God, but you are a disingenuous fraud.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: Yes, much the same way as you never characterized the Libya thing as humanitarian.

    You’re weird like that. You say all this crazy shit without ever saying it.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @eemom:

    dear God, but you are a disingenuous fraud.

    Who left the lock off the gimp cage?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @General Stuck: Try harder.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    I think you folks were actually representing yourselves better when you were all racistracistracistracist. That’s always a surefire winner if you can stay on message.

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    So, exactly which of these “defined by wealth and white privilege” facts are you disputing?

    That his mother was on welfare?

    That he was raised by a single mother?

    That he isn’t white?

    That he endured racial taunts for being black?

    That he lived for years in cheap housing in a third-world country?

    You seem to have lost the thread entirely.

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    @eemom: Oh, come on!

    I think we know JSF well enough to know that he’s an agree-to-disagree kind of guy (especially when I disagree with him), just like we know that he never argues on the internet.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    But he has to invent a story about poor Obama growing up in poverty with a mom on welfare.

    Generally, joe from LoL will make a sweeping statement, claim it as broad fact, then crawfish his way out of a thread as he’s checked down on it.
    Once in a while he goes for broke and gets pummeled. But that’s the reason some people keep coming back here.
    Not me, of course. But some people. #Looming

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Yes, much the same way as you never characterized the Libya thing as humanitarian.

    Actually, I’ve openly characterized the Libyan intervention as humanitarian from the beginning, and continue to do so.

    Sense: UR not makin any.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I blame you, you silly fucker.

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    General Stuck says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Is there anything we can do to expedite your transition?

    oh fuckhead, cheer up, by the time I quit here, you will have finished self immolating your sorry self at every turn. And the reason you should never get in arguments on the internet is because your personal onion gets peeled every time, revealing the ugly person you really are, beyond the cheesy jokes. And none more so than this thread. It was a delight watching you meltdown with Joe From Lowell leading you to chew off your own legs and squirm like a greased squealing little pig. epic.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I think you folks were actually representing yourselves better when you were all racistracistracistracist.

    I think I represent myself best when I quote this: Obama’s entire life has been defined by wealth and white privilege, and then write something like “Wow!” or “Hokay then.”

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    eemom says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    oh, I don’t think you wanna break out the RAAAAACIST card now, fuckie.

    Jussayinzall.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell: You can’t tell me when his mother was on welfare. He wasn’t raised by a single mother. He had a father, a stepfather and grandparents. He is half-white, raised by his stepfather and white mother, followed by his affluent white grandparents. I don’t know how enduring taunts as a child means he couldn’t have grown up in wealth and with white privilege. You characterize the Soetero’s housing situation in Indonesia negatively but it sounds exactly like something a new young college educated couple would live in while launching careers in their respective fields.

    Again, I’m not the one inventing a narrative here. I’m just looking at the facts of his upbringing and recognizing he had it good. I suspect he would do the same.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @cbear: cbear, joe from LoL is looming large in your consciousness now. He loves that. He does.

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    cbear says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    It refers to people who claim that the things they write on the internet are part of a war.

    Oh, I get it now—-you mean jackoffs like you who invariably say “we” when they comment on actions taken by our military?

    Glad you cleared that up for me.

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    Hey, Batman, did you lose weight?

    Why, yes, Robin, I did lose a few pounds. Say, have you been lifting weights?

    Actually, caped crusader, I sure have!

    Truly, Robin, we are awesome.

    The awesomest, Batman. The awesomest.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @eemom: Thank Zeus we have you to guide us on racial discord! #Looming

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    cbear says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Who left the lock off the gimp cage?

    Priceless, dude.

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    King Quaker says:

    Mickey? Cocksucker!

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @eemom:

    Jussayinzall.

    Why would you waste the effort when you know I don’t care what you think? I can’t imagine anyone’s thoughts I’d be less interested in hearing. Even Joe From Libya is occasionally funny and interesting.

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    General Stuck says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Who left the lock off the gimp cage?

    I look forward to your future essays on how “gimps” should be in cages. Every word you type fuckhead, is one more insight into your ugly mind.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @cbear:

    Priceless, dude.

    You gotta give her some props too. She can’t get enough abuse.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @General Stuck:

    I look forward on your future essays on how “gimps” should be in cages. Every word you type fuckhead, is one more insight into your ugly mind.

    Someone’s a little grumpy. Did Bob and Dennis fail to stimulate your anus satisfactorily while blowing you?

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    General Stuck says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Like I said, every word you type…….

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    You can’t tell me when his mother was on welfare.

    No no no – I won’t tell you when his mother was on public assistance. There’s a difference.

    He had a father,

    for a little while, before he abandoned his mother.

    a stepfather

    for a little while.

    and grandparents.

    with whom he lived while his mother finished her degree after being abandoned by his father. Which, apparently, is “privilege.”

    He wasn’t raised by a single mother.

    As a matter of fact, he was. That she had help from her parents is quite common for single mothers. As is another relationship that doesn’t last long and leaves her alone again.

    He had a father, a stepfather and grandparents. He is half-white, raised by his stepfather and white mother, followed by his affluent white grandparents.

    Wow, now that’s some white privilege!

    I don’t know how enduring taunts as a child means he couldn’t have grown up in wealth and with white privilege.

    As a child? You know what? Don’t ever write anything that remotely touches on the issue of race ever again. It’s for your own good.

    You characterize the Soetero’s housing situation in Indonesia negatively but it sounds exactly like something a new young college educated couple would live in while launching careers in their respective fields.

    Most college-educated couples live in poor neighborhoods in third world countries? In housing that even Indonesians describe as “modest?”

    Again, I’m not the one inventing a narrative here.

    No one’s inventing a narrative here. One of us knows the narrative, and the other quickly Googled some information.

    I’m just looking at the facts of his upbringing and recognizing he had it good. I suspect he would do the same.

    You suspect a lot of things. You suspect that a black kid living in Indonesia and Hawaii lived a life of white privilege, for instance. You suspect that having your dad leave your mother when you’re a baby is no big deal. You suspect that “modest” housing in Indonesia is indicative of wealth.

    You go on with your big ol’ suspecting self. Just don’t expect anyone else to be impressed.

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    It’s like a whole gaggle of macataka_chan’s has descended at the bottom of this thread. Really, people. /hall monitor

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @General Stuck:

    Like I said, every word you type…….

    mmmhmmm?

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    cbear says:

    @joe from Lowell:
    Hey, Batman, did you lose weight?
    Why, yes, Robin, I did lose a few pounds. Say, have you been lifting weights?
    Actually, caped crusader, I sure have!
    Truly, Robin, we are awesome.
    The awesomest, Batman. The awesomest.

    Cute, but don’t you think Stuck might be slightly embarrassed to read an ode from his asshole buddy on an open thread? You guys should really just IM.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Someone’s a little grumpy.

    Um, you just called someone a “gimp” on a thread with a person with a disability.

    Gee, imagine that: he didn’t like it.

    What a repugnant little shell of a human being you are.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    No one’s inventing a narrative here.

    You did, Joe. It’s right there in words. Scroll up.

    Again, I’m more than willing to make this a tomato/tomahto thing. I’m looking at his upbringing as solidly middle class followed by upper middle class from 5th grade on.

    You’re just making up shit to make him sound disadvantaged.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @cbear: You see how the outrage brigade is trying to make a reference to The Gimp in Pulp Fiction as a violation of their morals? Dishonest or stupid? Flip a coin.

    No, serious question: dishonest or stupid?

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    General Stuck says:

    @cbear:

    That is comical coming from your performance in this thread, dude. And I don’t mind one bit Joe doing an ode to my Batman references. And I do not IM anyone on this blog. Nor do I send emails or say anything to or about anyone away from the bright lights of the comment sections here. So does the Cracker Pack do IM’s? emails?

    Maybe you should stop now. just a suggestion.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    It’s right there in words. Scroll up.

    You mean the ones I quoted, that don’t dispute my description?

    Yes, we can all still see the comments, and I described her life just fine, with the exception of writing “widowed” instead of “abandoned” to describe being left without a husband to help raise her child. You can’t even identify anything substantive that I got wrong, and keep making these vague references in the hope of suggesting I’m wrong about something you won’t identify.

    Again, I’m more than willing to make this a tomato/tomahto thing.

    I bet you are. Right, we’ll call it a draw.

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    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    You see how the outrage brigade is trying to make a reference to The Gimp in Pulp Fiction as a violation of their morals?

    Awwwww, did you say something that totally wasn’t bigoted and got in trouble for it again?

    Wow, why does that keep happening to you? What an unlucky guy! I can’t remember the last time that happened to me, but it seems like you can’t get up in the morning without someone finding something you wrote offensive, totally unfairly.

    Must be bad luck.

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    cbear says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Reminds me of the scene where Bruce Willis asks Ving Rhames whether he’s “alright” after being cornholed and he replies:

    Naw, motherfucker, I’m far from alright.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Yes, we can all still see the comments, and I described her life just fine, with the exception of writing “widowed” instead of “abandoned” to describe being left without a husband to help raise her child. You can’t even identify anything substantive that I got wrong, and keep making these vague references in the hope of suggesting I’m wrong about something you won’t identify.

    No, Joe. It isn’t as simple as you using one word instead of another word. You followed up by saying that’s why she had to go on welfare and get her degree. She was already working on her degrees and there is no evidence that she went on welfare then.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Must be bad luck.

    Nope, it’s just a cheap arguing tactic.

    The funny thing is that it is even tried at all. Look at my handle. Does anyone think I care what they think of me? Seriously? How bizarre is this?

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    Bob Loblaw says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I don’t know how enduring taunts as a child means he couldn’t have grown up in wealth

    It doesn’t, and he didn’t. Respectively.

    “Grown up in wealth?” Are you serious?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @cbear: Was that an anti-gay slur, cbear? You’re on notice!

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    Peggy says:

    Davebo at 5:19 pm disputed that that having a child like Obama live with their grandparents would have had anything to do with a parent’s poverty since it is such a common phenomena nowadays. On the other hand

    Nearly 15 million children in the United States – 21% of all children – live in families with incomes below the federal poverty level – $22,050 a year for a family of four. Research shows that, on average, families need an income of about twice that level to cover basic expenses. Using this standard, 42% of children live in low-income families.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Man, I remember having a newborn. I worked my ass off so I could get home and interact with him. Then I’d come home and hold him, change, bathe, feed, play with, love on.
    I guess some people take that for granted. It must be very difficult to always have other priorities.

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    cbear says:

    @General Stuck: My performance?
    You dumb fuck, if you had actually read my original comment you would know that I was taking joe to task for cavalierly dismissing the death of actual real live Libyans with the statement “….just due to the fog of war”.
    And for that I’m racist?

    Go fug yourself, you myopic little twit.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Bob Loblaw:

    “Grown up in wealth?” Are you serious?

    Well, yeah. I’ve indicated several million times I consider living with one’s affluent banker VP grandmother wealthy. I’ve also acknowledged that many of you don’t consider that wealthy.

    It doesn’t make me wrong. It just makes me poor.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Thank God the Hall Monitor is no longer with us.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Thank God the Hall Monitor is no longer with us.

    Prolly off somewhere lobbying for a banning.

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    Bob Loblaw says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Affluent as compared to what? The homeless? Someone working in a fast food restaurant?

    Do you really think young Barry was ever not one of the less well off of his classmates at that private school?

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    General Stuck says:

    @cbear:

    No you dumb fuck, you introduced the racist term “wog” for no justifiable reason taken from joe’s comment. You can argue it’s not worth it, civilian deaths that have occurred from our intervention, but not in a comment where joe was also highlighting the lives saved/ The term “wog” is all yours and why you absolutely are one of the cracker pack assholes. Now fuck you, you stupid ass bigot piece of shit.,

    edit – and of course our gay readership will no doubt be thrilled with your choice of “cornholed” . Crawl back in your hole with your buddy fuckhead, pond scum.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Prolly off somewhere lobbying for a banning.

    My guess is he’s running scared. He doesn’t have a sponsor any longer, and no one to suck up to.
    He’s like Stuck once a quarter or so.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @cbear: Damn cbear. How the sometimes unheard from have fallen. Just a day or so ago Stuck was sucking up to you. Now? #Looming

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    General Stuck says:

    @Corner Stone:

    too lame to respond to. just pathetic

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Bob Loblaw: ?
    Less affluent? If the FSM had blessed me with soemone in my family who was VP of a bank I’d have conquered/slaughtered part of this continent in her honor.
    Motherfucker, do you know what poor means?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @General Stuck: I love how large I loom in your consciousness. Love that.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Bob Loblaw:

    Do you really think young Barry was ever not one of the less well off of his classmates at that private school?

    How does that mean anything at all? Do you think one of his classmates was less wealthy than one of his other classmates?

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    It doesn’t make me wrong. It just makes me poor.

    No, it just makes you a pathetic fuckhead who is also wrong.

    Do you even know what “white privilege” means? Here’s a hint, you sad little fuck: it INVOLVES BEING WHITE. What part of that does your little spirochete-infested husk of a brain have trouble understanding?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Alright folks, billiards time. Gotta drop off. Thanks for the stimulating conversation.

    Sure would like to see pics of the kid, Joe.

    ceeb, don’t let Stuck bully you. You have just as much right to be here as he does.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Cracker Pack Commander 2 signing off.

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    Bob Loblaw says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    That’s your response? Improper grammar?

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    General Stuck says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Cracker Pack Commander

    wear your rank with pride fuckhead. You earned it. It could even be your new handle, kind of an advertisement of those pure libtard beliefs you claim to hold.

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    General Stuck says:

    Well, this has been informative. Think I will have a spot of tea and watch the sunset from this gorgeous day in the high desert. Now who brought the crumpets?

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    cbear says:

    @General Stuck:

    you introduced the racist term “wog” for no justifiable reason taken from joe’s comment.

    Yeah, right, my using the term “wog” for effect in derogating your fuckboy joe for his casual dismissal of people dying is just to outrageous for polite conversation and definitively racist.

    I’m looking forward to your denunciation of EVERYONE who has ever used the term “strapping young bucks” to highlight the racism of actual assholes. Or how about “bucks buying t-bones”? Anyone who used that term is a racist too, right?

    You’re an attention seeking asshole who has to interject himself into virtually every thread on this site with your self-righteous pedantic views on virtually every subject and when challenged in the slightest resort to hurling accusations as you just did.

    If you were a teenage girl you’d probably be cutting yourself in public, you pathetic twit.

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    Paula says:

    I’M NOT RACIST YOU’RE THE ONE WHO’S BEING RACIST BY CALLING ME RACIST HOW DARE YOU PLAY THE RACE CARD. ZOmg … g.. g..

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    AhabTRuler says:

    @Bruce S:

    Just Some Fuckhead is just some fuckhead.

    I’ve said so on more than one occasion. It’s part of his charm.

    That, and the itsy-bitsy, teeny-weenie, cutsy-pie bunny that the Dog(TM) found.

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    General Stuck says:

    @cbear:

    If you were a teenage girl you’d probably be cutting yourself in public,

    Cool, now you are using troubled teenage girls for insults. And I hardly comment in more than a thread or so a day anymore. Otherwise, your insults have been used so much, they have little tread left. Wish you asshats would get some new ones. I mean yadda yadda yadda. Stuck is a big this or that. Booring.

    Sorry if the truth hurts, it does hurt me seeing you act like such a fuckhead. But so it goes. You were directly attributing the term “wogs” in a specific comment to a specific statement from a specific person. Or trying to put those words in Joes mouth.. Folks using general terms like “strapping young bucks” in a non personal situation or context is not the same thing.

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    cbear says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Stuck bully me? rotfl

    He’s still the same lovable loser he always was, only slightly stupider and slightly less entertaining when tweaked.

    Cracker Pack Commander 2 1/2 is out.

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    General Stuck says:

    Cracker Pack Commander 2 1/2 is out.

    It will be interesting to see who else signs up for this unit.

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    eemom says:

    fuckie gets called out for the neoracist shit that he is and he bails like the chickenshit that he also is. Classic.

    But just remember y’all — he was the FIRST ONE TO EVER COMMENT ON THIS BLOG.

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    STUCKZILLA! says:

    EYES ONLY BULLY BULLIES.

    OVER CHEER MUP, GIDDEEUP

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    eemom says:

    know what I think? I think “cbear” is corner stoned’s Nick.

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    cbear says:

    @General Stuck:

    Sorry if the truth hurts, it does hurt me seeing you act like such a fuckhead. But so it goes. You were directly attributing the term “wogs” in a specific comment to a specific statement from a specific person.

    Ok, Stuck, let’s just leave it alone for now, alright?

    How long have you and I been commenting on BJ now, 5,6,7 years? I don’t even remember, but you and I both know I didn’t suddenly become some raging bigot overnight. Nor has JSF.

    Scatologically sophomoric? Maybe.
    Bigoted and racist? No.

    You also didn’t have to be Moliere to understand the intent and meaning of my original “wog” comment. You’re too smart not to know that.

    And I’m too smart to not value your participation and comments here either.

    Let’s just call it a day.

    Peaceout.

    P.S. fuck off eeemom.

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    General Stuck says:

    @cbear:

    Sorry can’t agree. You surprise me, and am willing to chalk it up to, whatever. But not fuckhead, and anyone who cuddles up to that piece of racist shit, will get some on them. And they will receive no quarter from me, as long as I comment on this blog. If that’s being a bully, then so be it.

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    Paula says:

    @Angry Geometer:

    But Obama is half-white! ZING!

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    eemom says:

    @cbear:

    you fuck off, ceetwat.

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    Paul K says:

    Do you guys do this often?

    Because it reminds me of my undergrad days.

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    OzoneR says:

    You know, I have to say it, I’d be a lot more disappointed in Obama if it wasn’t for the millions of hissy fits thrown after Hillary lost the primary and some of them still haven’t gotten over it

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    Wolfdaughter says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    This statement sums up very nicely the thought processes of you who don’t like Obama.

    There are plenty of things to criticize about Obama’s performance so far, and there are also plenty of things to laud. I’ve done both.

    But your silly screed is just plain over the top, and it strongly resembles the comments from others who seem totally unable to evaluate Obama in any realistic way. I hope you don’t ever have matches around, or you will go up in flames with all those straw men you surround yourself with.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Paul K: Nah, it’s just BJ’s own “Master Thespian” — excuse me, ‘Ombudsman’ — brings out our inner Randroid undergrad memories.

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    JenJen says:

    Gawd. Worst. Board Fight. Ever.

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    Yutsano says:

    @JenJen: Tell me why I went back and read this thing. And feel free to call for the nice men in the white coats also.

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    Ija says:

    @Jim O’Sullivan:

    Kaus is too liberal for me ….

    Hah hah hah hah. Excuse me while I pick myself up from the floor laughing. The idea that Kaus is “too liberal”, he’s not even a faux-liberal. I can’t think of a single liberal policy he has advocated for his entire career. Although he did wrote an article bashing Andrew Sullivan for publishing the excerpt of The Bell Curve in the New Republic once. That is the only good thing I can remember him writing. Otherwise it’s all about the evils of union all day, every day. It’s like he can’t find a new target, it’s pretty pathetic to hit your enemy that hard even after that enemy has pretty much been decimated. In his world, union bosses still rule with iron fists.

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    Ija says:

    @joe from Lowell:

    Yup, because only black crack babies in inner cities are on welfare. Not white meth babies in rural America, or underpaid, overworked grad student with babies, or disabled people of any color.

    Welfare = black people. Q fucking ED.

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    […] Mickey Kaus for this attention-whoring racism: Cost doesn’t go into why Obama managed to get to the top of politics without being all that good at it. The answer is distressingly obvious: Obama’s the biggest affirmative action baby in history. […]

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    d. john says:

    @Jim O’Sullivan:

    There’s a ton of specifics here…

    but it really doesn’t take much. – Al Sharpton was never president, despite running several times.
    Obama did become president.

    But now it must be affirmative action?

    If that doesn’t sound stupid to you, I’ve got a bridge to sell you…

    And mickey kaus is too liberal? really? okay, Mr. Allende…

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    d. john says:

    @Jim O’Sullivan…

    Ooops,

    change Allende to Pinochet…

    sometimes I mix up my latin american tyrants

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    d. john says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Joe took you down at #265.

    Stick a fork in your argument. It’s done.

    I’ll give you points for perseverance (even if it did just make you look dumb)

    But your argument didn’t hold up. Joe took you apart on #265.

    Period. End of story.

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    d. john:

    I don’t think a typo says anything one way or the other about you, unlike another of my critics, supra, who now thinks that you, too, are a fool, because you made one.

    To my other detractors:

    Public sector unions have indeed had much more power in recent decades than have their private sector counterparts. That’s why my real estate taxes, which I pay with the proceeds of my private sector job, fund the comfortable retirement of my younger next door neighbors: two ex-teachers.

    I don’t know why people voted for Obama. I’m sure there were as many reasons as there were votes. But I don’t think it is absurd to say, or as Kaus does, to imply, that some people voted for him at least in part because of his African ancestry. If that is what they did, that is their right. But that’s a form of affirmative action. Whether “affirmative action” is a bad thing per se is a whole nother topic.

    And yes,I am for real. But if you prefer to think of me as a fiction living in your head, I won’t interfere.

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    d john:

    Oh, and I almost forgot. The Sharpton analogy is strained, to say the least. Neither myself, Kaus, nor the article Kaus was citing ever said that Obama’s racial status made him an automatic choice for President in most people’s minds. I’m not an Obama supporter, but I agree that he’s not a buffoon. If the worst thing about Sharpton was his buffoonery, he would have done much less damage than he’s caused.

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    Hermione Granger-Weasley says:

    And the Hall Monitor Nation marches on.
    None of you guyz iz liberalz…at least as far as freedom of speech goes.
    ;)

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    […] This will substantially be a many renouned of a new avenues of birtherism, yet might not drain into a mainstream sermon with as most palliate as a birth certificate stuff, since it has no temperament whatsoever on a president’s education to be president. Schoolerism is simply about proof that a president’s a artificial who hoodwinked a universe with his hoodoo, “the biggest certain movement baby in history” in a detestable difference of Mickey Kaus. […]

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    […] This will probably be the most popular of the new avenues of birtherism, though may not bleed into the mainstream discourse with as much ease as the birth certificate stuff, because it has no bearing whatsoever on the president’s qualifications to be president. Schoolerism is simply about proving that the president’s a phony who duped the world with his hoodoo, “the biggest affirmative action baby in history” in the detestable words of Mickey Kaus. […]

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