One of the newest lines of spin in the comments here when I mock the “Arab League No-Fly Zone” is “Hey- the UN resolution explicitly called for more than a no-fly zone.”
No shit. I’m well aware of what the resolution said, which is why we have been mocking the people who, when we noted the Resolution was about to pass, insisted that this was an Arab League measure and that the US would not be involved. That morphed quickly into “the French and British are the ones who are really leading this,” and when we pointed out the French and British really couldn’t engage in this kind of mission without the US help, we were mocked again. Now that it is clear that the US is spearheading this mission, the new spin is “Hey, this was in the resolution all along, anyone could read it.” And the people making these remarks think we’re the dumb ones. Once again, I recommend people look at the FITD technique.
Look, I honestly hope something magical happens and we are out of this in no time and the “good guys” win:
In 2007, when American combat casualties were spiking in the bloodbath of the Iraq War, an 18-year-old laborer traveled from his home in eastern Libya through Egypt and Syria to join an al Qaeda terrorist cell in Iraq. He gave his name to al Qaeda operatives as Ashraf Ahmad Abu-Bakr al-Hasri. Occupation, he wrote: “Martyr.’’
Abu-Bakr was one of hundreds of foreign fighters who flocked into the killing zones of Iraq to wage war against the “infidels.” They came from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Oman, Algeria and other Islamic states. But on a per capita basis, no country sent more young fighters into Iraq to kill Americans than Libya — and almost all of them came from eastern Libya, the center of the anti-Gaddafi rebellion that the United States and others now have vowed to protect, according to internal al Qaeda documents uncovered by U.S. intelligence.
The informal alliance with violent Islamist extremist elements is a coming-home of sorts for the United States, which initially fought on the same side as the Libyan fighters in Afghanistan in the 1980s, battling the Soviet Union.
According to a cache of al Qaeda documents captured in 2007 by U.S. special operations commandos in Sinjar, Iraq, hundreds of foreign fighters, many of them untrained young Islamic volunteers, poured into Iraq in 2006 and 2007. The documents, called the Sinjar documents, were collected, translated and analyzed at the West Point Counter Terrorism Center. Almost one in five foreign fighters arriving in Iraq came from eastern Libya, many from the city of Darnah. Others came from Surt and Misurata to the west.
On a per capita basis, that’s more than twice as many than came from any other Arabic-speaking country, amounting to what the counter terrorism center called a Libyan “surge” of young men eager to kill Americans.
During 2006 and 2007, a total of 1,468 Americans were killed in combat and 12,524 were badly wounded, according to Pentagon records.
Today, there is little doubt that eastern Libya, like other parts of the Arab world, is experiencing a genuine burst of anti-totalitarian fervor, expressed in demands for political freedom and economic reforms. But there also is a dark history to eastern Libya, which is the home of the Islamic Libyan Fighting Group, an anti-Gaddafi organization officially designated by the State Department as a terrorist organization.
I have no way to verify that, don’t know who David Wood is, so it may be nothing but garbage, but it would not surprise me. Anyone speaking with any certainty about this is full of shit, and we probably will not know the result of this action until some American city is smoldering in a decade or two. And what happens if Qaddafi remains in power? Will Libya remain a hot spot in perpetuity? Will we have to enforce sanctions for decades to punish Qaddafi, starving who knows how many Libyans in the process (because as we know, Qaddafi will be the last to feel the pinch from sanctions)?
This is just a god damned mess, despite all the gleeful bleating about a coalition and how the Arabs love us for this.