False Memories of a Nit Diddler…

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Old Haley is at again. Seriously the boy just can’t keep his facts or his story straight. Late last year the old Nit Diddler told the Weekly Standard that he went to see MLK speak:

In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said. “I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in ’62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white.”

Did you go? I asked.

“Sure, I was there with some of my friends.”

This is an invented memory (also known as a lie) or–at best–a very poorly recalled event. Turns out that Martin Luther King did not speak in Yazoo City back in 1962:

According to Garrow, as well as interviews with a local NAACP activist who met with King and the owner of the local paper at the time, King’s only recorded appearance in Yazoo City was in 1966 and included no rallies.

That news was breaking this morning. Before Noon, Haley’s spokesmen and media defenders had come to his aid with a new story. Ben Smith over at Pravda on the Potomac took the lead (caution Politico link) and in doing so Smith failed as a reporter. Smith recalled that there was a June 21, 1966 report in the New York Times that mentioned Dr. King speaking at a rally in Yazoo City and used this memory to exonerate Haley Barbour by claiming:

Haley got King date, not event, wrong

Barbour initially said he was in high school at the time; in the new chronology, he would have been home from college — not, as an aide re-asserted to the Clarion-Ledger, in high school. The other details of his recollection — King speaking from the bed of a truck at the fairgrounds — match the Times account.

One possible source of what would then be a relatively minor confusion of dates: King appeared at Yazoo in 1966, the year of Meredith March, led by James Meredith, who had been the first black student at the University of Mississippi — in 1962.

I’ve read all the New York Times reporting and this is a generous recreation of events that Smith presents as being a fact. It is also the latest iteration of Haley Barbour’s ever shifting memory of the Sixties. But this is the new excuse and so his spokesmen have been all over the place today repeating it. Barbour’s mouthpiece told the local paper today that:

“The governor said he may have the year wrong, but he knows he saw Dr. King in Yazoo City, and it was while the governor was in high school.”

Ben Smith took these talking points and ran with them, but a little bit of reporting or research should have led him to ask more questions. Turns out that this latest recovered memory is pretty easy to knock down…

To hear the Old Nit Diddler recall the story, it was as if Dr. King flew into Yazoo, gave a speech at the Fair Grounds–a talk that was respectfully heard by both whites and blacks–and then he was back on book tour or something. In Haley’s fuzzy brain, the year when this happy event occurred doesn’t matter. Nothing could have been further from the truth.

In the summer of 1966 Mississippi was ground zero of the Civil Rights struggle and the focus of world wide media attention. By that time Haley Barbour was a student at Ole Miss. As June 1966 began, a well known former Ole Miss student decided to take a walk. His name was James Meredith and a few years earlier he became the first African American to attend Haley’s school. Somehow, I think Haley Barbour and his fellow students at the University of Mississippi would have known the name “James Meredith”. And Haley might have remembered that name and the connection to his school when James Meredith was shot by a white racist as he began his walk from Memphis, TN to Jackson, MS.

James Meredith shot June 1966 in MS on MAF

Meredith began his walk to prove that black people could register to vote in Mississippi and should not be afraid of white violence anymore. He had called his quite walk his March Against Fear. He was shot on June 6, 1966. The act of white supremacist terrorism made completing his march a Civil Rights campaign priority. Within days Martin Luther King, other leaders and activists came to Mississippi to complete Meredith’s March Against Fear.

By June 21, 1966 Dr. King had been marching in the State for days and there were many public rallies. The marchers were greeted by young white men waving the Confederate Flags and hurling insults from the sidelines of the roads where they marched or in the places where they tried to speak. Haley could have his memory of seeing Dr. King that summer as one of these young men stalking the marchers (or he could be one of those rare young white Southerners in 1966 who supported Civil Rights, but if that was the case why can’t he remember taking that stand).

Before Dr. King got to Yazoo City late that evening he had already attended a march and rally in Philadelphia, MS and another rally in Indianola, MS. The event in Philadelphia was to commemorate the three civil rights worker murdered in the town two years earlier. In his biography of Dr. King, Bearing the Cross, David J. Garrow wrote about how the event was greeted by white violence::

“Hostile white onlookers taunted the demonstrators, and two cars sped past the column, missing the protesters by [just] inches. No state highway patrolmen were on the scene, and a truck made a pass at the marchers as a man with a club repeatedly tried to strike the protesters from the passenger-side window. King … led a prayer service when the head of the column reached the county jail, and then the marchers moved [on] one block [farther] to the Neshoba County courthouse. When King tried to lead the group on to [its] lawn, Chief Deputy Sheriff Cecil Ray Price stepped forward to block his path. ‘You’re the one who had Schwerner and those fellows in jail?’ King asked quietly. ‘Yes, sir,’ Price responded in a tone of sarcastic pride. With the courthouse lawn blocked, and an angry white mob of three hundred growing more aggressive by the minute, King led the marchers in a short memorial service out in the street.

“Heckling from the whites almost drowned out King’s words, and newsmen looked on nervously as he spoke prayerfully about the three young men’s sacrifice. ‘King appeared to be shaken’ as the whites’ shouts grew more vociferous, and his voice quavered when he declared that ‘I believe in my heart that the murderers are somewhere around me at this moment’ while Cecil Price smirked only a few steps behind him. ‘You’re damn right, they’re behind you right now,’ Price muttered.”

The Department of Transportation has a history of the “March Against Fear” on their web site as part of their effort to document the history of America’s highways. It added more details about the events of that Mississippi summer and the rally in Philadelphia:

At the commemoration, Dr. King addressed participants amid jeers from white bystanders. He said, “I want them to know that we are not afraid. If they kill three of us, they will have to kill all of us. I am not afraid of any man, whether he is in Michigan or Mississippi, whether he is in Birmingham or Boston.” As the group began the return march, the white bystanders attacked with stones, bottles, clubs, fists, and shouts. The police held them back until some of the marchers began to fight back. That night, white marauders drove through African-American neighborhoods spraying homes with gunfire.

The “until some of the marchers began to fight back” line is another reason why Haley might have remembered Dr. King’s speech in Yazoo City if he had been there. Since Meredith had been wounded by a shotgun blast, the marchers had been harassed by threats and violence almost every step of the way. Dr. King’s appeals to non-violence were wearing thin. Just days before the June 21 events in Philadelphia, Indianola, and Yazoo City the Civil Rights movement started to embrace a new rallying cry when Stokely Carmichael (then the head of SNCC), gave his Black Power speech in Greenwood, MS on June 16, 1966:

In Greenwood, where Carmichael had lived and been jailed in 1964, the marchers planned to camp on the grounds of Stone Street Negro School, but police questioned their authority. After arguing with the police, Carmichael was arrested [quotes from Taylor Branch’s At Canaan’s Edge]:

In Greenwood, where the morning Commonwealth warned against King as a hate-monger “who can be compared to Josef Stalin and Mao Tze Tung,” local officials thought better of dispersing his hordes. They reversed themselves to allow the school campsite, which added jolts of vindication to the mass meeting that night. [SNCC official] Willie Ricks guided Carmichael to the speaker’s platform when he made bail, saying most of the locals remembered him fondly. “Drop it now!” [Ricks] urged. “The people are ready.”

He was referring to a line of argument Carmichael had been using in private meetings with SNCC leaders:

Carmichael faced an agitated crowd of six hundred. “This is the 27th time I have been arrested,” he began, “and I ain’t going to jail no more!” He said Negroes should stay home from Vietnam and fight for black power in Greenwood. “We want black power!” he shouted five times, jabbing his forefinger downward in the air. “That’s right. That’s what we want, black power. We don’t have to be ashamed of it. We have stayed here. We have begged the president. We’ve begged the federal government-that’s all we’ve been doing, begging and begging. It’s time we stand up and take over. Every courthouse in Mississippi ought to be burned down tomorrow to get rid of the dirt and the mess. From now on, when they ask you what you want, you know what to tell ’em. What do you want?”

The crowd shouted, “Black Power!” Willie Ricks sprang up to help lead thunderous rounds of call and response: “What do you want?” “Black Power!” [Canaan, 486]

Every night the marchers on the March Against Fear had to find a place to sleep–a place to camp for the evening. And every night these marchers held a meeting and rally to organize their next steps and to keep their spirits up. On the night of June 21, 1966 the marchers were camping at the Fair Grounds of Yazoo City and it was there where they held their rally and meeting.

June 21, 1966 had been a very long day. A side march and rally in Philadelphia, MS had been greeted by violence–violence that was still going on as the marchers gathered that evening in Yazoo City. Dr. King had left the Philadelphia event and went to a voter’s registration rally in Indianola, MS. He would not get to Yazoo City until late that night and well after the meeting had begun. By the time Dr. King arrived the marchers were reacting to the white violence of the day with cries of “Black Power”:

Returning to the March Against Fear, now on U.S. 49, at Yazoo City, Dr. King found that the incident in Philadelphia had revived debate over strategy. Many thought that if they were going to die for the cause, they should go down fighting. Dr. King explained the futility of violence in a society where African-Americans were only about 10 percent of the population. He added:

I am not going to allow anybody to pull me so low as to use the very methods that perpetuated evil throughout our civilization. I’m sick and tired of violence . . . . I’m tired of evil. I’m not going to use violence no matter who says it!

He threatened to leave the March Against Fear if inflammatory rhetoric continued. [Canaan, p. 489]

The next day, in a small item without a byline, the New York Times reported on Dr. King’s comments:

YAZOO CITY, Miss., June 21 – Tonight at a rally in Yazoo City, Dr. King lashed out at the student committee’s policy of advocating “black power” and at the Deacons for Defense and Justice, which urges Negroes to arm themselves in self-defense.

“Some people are telling us to be like our ‘oppressor, who has a history of using Molotov cocktails, who has a history of dropping the atom bomb, who has a history of lynching Negroes,” he said. “Now people
are telling me to stoop down to that level.

“I’m sick and tired of violence. I’m tired of the war in Vietnam. I’m tired of Molotov cocktails.”

The meeting in Yazoo City was a fight for the soul of the Civil Rights movement and the choice between a non-violent struggle or the embrace of self-defense–even if that meant meeting violence with violence. Before Dr. King spoke there were many voices advocating for “Black Power” and resistance.

Today’s Clarion Ledger recalls another the New York Times report on the Yazoo City event:

The Sept. 25, 1966, issue of The New York Times Magazine, gave more details, describing an appearance by King at the fairgrounds at night in Yazoo City, where he spoke on a flatbed truck.

It was during the Meredith March that Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee leader Stokely Carmichael tried out the phrase, “black power,” getting the black crowds to chant it with him.

That night in Yazoo City, Willie Ricks stood on the flatbed truck and spoke to almost 1,000 African Americans, talking of “white blood flowing” and yelling “black power.”

As King came up to speak, the crowd surged around him, trying to touch him. When he reached the truck, he got up and spoke.

He told those present that he was tired of talk of black power and tired of talk of violence. He reassured them the only way to overcome violent enemies was to embrace nonviolent love.

“I’m tired of shooting. I’m tired of hatred,” King told them. “I’m tired of evil. I’m not going to use violence no matter who says it!”

You will note that the NYTs reports that the event took place at night and that the crowd of 1,000 was African American. There was no mention of white spectators hanging out on the edge of the event on their pick-up trucks to listen or to intimidate. And somehow, if Haley had been there to hear the speakers before King calling for “white blood flowing” and yelling “black power” you might imagine the scene leaving an impression on the young lad, as might King’s words rejecting violence.

And yet Ben Smith and Haley Barbour would have you believe that an 18 year old Haley Barbour would have stayed late into the evening at a rally of marchers and organizers of the March Against Fear at a place and time where there were more blacks than whites and when some of those folks were calling for meeting white violence with violence. Perhaps Haley Barbour was one of the handful of white folks at the Fair Ground in Yazoo City that night, but if he was–why can’t he remember it?

But what Haley told the Weekly Standard was:

“I don’t really remember. The truth is, we couldn’t hear very well. We were sort of out there on the periphery. We just sat on our cars, watching the girls, talking, doing what boys do. We paid more attention to the girls than to King.”

So not only were these all these young white guys on the edge of the late evening speech by King, there were all these women to watch as well. Somehow it just all sounds like bullshit.

Now there were lots of day time gatherings of young white men watching the March Against Fear in June 1966 all over Mississippi. And no doubt these gatherings of white resistance attracted massive crowds. When King and the marchers returned to Philadelphia, MS on Friday June 24, 1966 the New York Time reported that:

The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and 300 civil rights marchers returned to downtown Philadelphia today and braved a speeding car, three bottles, two eggs and hundreds of shouts of “nigger.”

The taunts and the missiles came from among 1,500 to 2,000 whites who stared over the shoulders of more than 100 heavily armed state highway patrolmen and local law enforcement officers.

Perhaps the second march to Philadelphia is the event that Haley Barbour recalls as a great chance to “watch girls”. And perhaps the image below of Barbour’s fellow young white Mississippians during June of 1966 gives one an idea of just what “sitting on your cars” and “watching girls” looked like:

Haley Barbour's contemporaries watch the MAF in 1966

I wonder why Haley’s memory is so bad when it comes to the Civil Rights era?

Cheers

64 replies
  1. 1
    Jay says:

    Haley Barbour is the Stay Puft Marshmallow Racist.

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    LosGatosCA says:

    His memory is bad because he’s a piece of shit masquerading as a human being.

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    MikeJ says:

    Next week, Haley recounts how he learned to drive from the freedom riders’ bus drivers.

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    Dennis G. says:

    @LosGatosCA:
    That is a possible theory and one that is plausible given the evidence.

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    Ecks says:

    I don’t know why you’ve got it so in for him. Why, nobody back then was a slave or indentured worker, nobody got hurt or picked on or yelled at, or attacked or threatened, nobody was the victim of overt racist hatred in any serious way.

    Well, nobody important anyway. So what’s there to worry about? Amirite there Haley, eh? Eh?? Ain’t that how it were?

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    cthulhu says:

    Does this guy really think he has a shot at the Presidency what with his history and really bad lying? That the Villagers see him as a valid candidate is one of the key data points as to how crazy out of touch they are.

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    He’s a lying sack of shit who only has to come up with a somewhat plausible lie so it can be feed to the Fox minions.

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    Nutella says:

    Here’s an article that might seem unrelated but it points out that the goal of Walker et al. is to make Wisconsin and everywhere else in this country into an economic sinkhole like the Jim Crow South.

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    jnfr says:

    Excellent work. Thank you so much.

    I was a child in Mississippi from ’59 to the end of ’63, and apparently I remember those years better than Barbour does.

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    Yutsano says:

    @cthulhu: Or how desperate they are for cannon fodder for what seems like an inevitable Obama re-election. The fact that it’s now March of 2011 and no Republican has formally jumped into the ring is a huge tell. No one is ready to become the sacrificial lamb yet. Because they all want 2016.

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    Jebediah says:

    “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” says lying old racist Haley Barbour.
    Sure it wasn’t so bad – you were white, you deliberately obtuse sack of crap.

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    Loneoak says:

    What a delightful beatdown.

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    Allan says:

    I hope Haley Barbour is the GOP nominee. The Presidential debates with Obama will look like In the Heat of the Night 2: They Call Me Mr. President.

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    MoeLarryAndJesus says:

    Maybe Barbour shot James Meredith. Does he have an alibi?

    That sort of credential probably would have made him a legend among the sort of people who could guarantee him a job for life in Mississippi’s “elite.”

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    cthulhu says:

    @Yutsano: Isn’t there a bit of psychological deadline looming with that FOX-Reagan Library debate coming up in May?

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    freelancer says:

    @Allan:

    Barbour’s gonna inadvertantly call him “boy” and for once, it will actually be good news for John McCain. Every person on the planet is gonna let his “That One!” remark go in that moment.

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    Calouste says:

    @cthulhu:

    There is. In the 2008 cycle, all eventual candidates participated in the Reagan library debate, and most of them had already declared by then, some as early as january. This time around, even a perennial candidate like Ron Paul hasn’t declared yet.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Calouste: It seems like a big game of chicken at this point. Someone has to be first, but no one wants to jump because no one wants to be the early runner and therefore take all the heat first. So now they’re just waiting and watching to see who the first fool is. I’m sure someone will jump by April.

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    MikeJ says:

    @freelancer: Every Republican on earth will start claiming that “boy” is a term of respect and Rush Limbaugh will refer to Obama no other way.

    Republicans always double down on stupid.

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    BR says:

    This is an amazing piece of historical writing.

    Man, if only the media that the majority of Americans was as good as this.

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    freelancer says:

    “We paid more attention to the girls than to King.”

    Any of those girls at a lunch counter maybe? At perhaps a Woolworth‘s? In (gasp) solidarity?!

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    Upper West says:

    Holy Crap. The image of young Haley hanging out and watching girls at an unbelievably tense rally in which King responded to the nascent black power movement is so surreal it belongs in the Matrix located within an Inception dreamscape.

    Clueless doesn’t begin to describe the ludicrous efforts this good old boy uses to . . . what? not look like a bigot? why? that only hurts his nomination chances.

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    asiangrrlMN says:

    Your takedown is delicious, dengre. Keep pushing back at the ridiculous spinning Barbour is doing as it seems very few of the MSM are wiling to call a lie a lie. Here is Steve Benen’s take on the comments by Barbour. Benen is more diffident, but just as scornful.

    @Yutsano: Hi. How you be? I need to stagger off to bed.

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    Yutsano says:

    @asiangrrlMN: Kind of a crappy day at work, but I’d rather not talk about it. Suffice it to say the forced vacation might not be a bad thing for my sanity.

    Are you consuming massive amounts of Jewish penicillin? I’ll send gbear over to your house to make it.

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    Ray says:

    This is my first comment on this website. Have been reading it for about two years. Dennis, you are one of the best. Your post caused me to go to Politico (God, I remember when I worked in DC and they gave that crap away for free hoping for relevance) and made a comment. I am a biologist by trade but, self linking a correction to yourself months ago doesn’t count as professional journalism. Although I also agree with the people of Wisconsin so I have “Hate in my eyes” and I might have just hit someone.

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    asiangrrlMN says:

    @Yutsano: Ah, damn. Sorry that you had a rough day. I’m still feeling crappy, and no, I have no chicken soup. Well, I have chicken soup, but not the healing kind. And now, off to bed! Hope you have a better tomorrow.

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    freelancer says:

    @Ray:

    This is my first comment on this website. Have been reading it for about two years. Dennis, you are one of the best.

    Welcome!

    …and I might have just hit someone.

    Er, maybe not. Wait, wut?

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    Yutsano says:

    @freelancer: Mistype maybe? It does seem to drift off into non-sequitur territory at the end.

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    Calouste says:

    @Yutsano:

    They’ll have to, the Reagan library debate is early May (2nd IIRC) and there is another one in South Carolina a few days later. Well, as long as no one jumps it’s all ok, but once one of them jumps it’s going to look a bit wierd to have one or two declared candidates and half a dozen “prospective” candidates in a debate.

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    Calouste says:

    @freelancer:

    That brings an idea. Is there a photo of a young Haley Barbour out there that could be used to compare with white guys in Civil Rights era photos?

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    Yutsano says:

    @Calouste: It’ll be more fun watching them tear each other to shreds more than anything. Especially if they go all in and back Scotty boy in Wisconsin. Then they stake out the extreme right, win the primary…and are stuck in a nifty little ideological trap. Popcorn futures never looked brighter.

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    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    I see pictures of shit like those assholes with their traitors flag and it just disgusts me to no end. What’s even more disgusting is that people who consider themselves “patriots” are proudly bearing them. “Heritage” my ass, it’s all about hate and denigration of non-whites and any whites who dare to not hate them too. They know exactly what that flag means and what waving it is all about.

    It’s about racism. It’s about subjugation of blacks for exploitation as free labor, sex and anything else they wanted them for. It’s about traitorously attempting to divide and destroy a nation in a last-gasp try to keep that way of life. I may be white as white but I think I view that flag with the kind of contempt that a Jew would have for the Nazi flag. The original bearers of that flag sought to destroy people and our nation, all for slavery.

    Heritage my ass, it’s all about racism and hate and that’s it. They know that it pisses certain people off when they see that flag and that’s why the cling to it so desperately and wave it so much.

    Great writeup Dengre, excellent work.

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    Pat says:

    And the good news is….he has not a prayer in hell of ever being president, so he and those that travel in his circle may revise his personal history all they want!

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    pablo says:

    I was there, and i know what Haley was up to, and He admits it! Really… almost!

    PS Thnks

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    “Heritage” my ass, it’s all about hate and denigration of non-whites and any whites who dare to not hate them too. They know exactly what that flag means and what waving it is all about.

    This, this, this.

    If a bunch of Germans went around flying the Hackenkreuz and claiming it was about their “heritage”, people wouldn’t buy that for a nanosecond.

    Why do people give similar bullshit from Americans the time of day? They wouldn’t for Germans…

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @MikeJ:

    Every Republican on earth will start claiming that “boy” is a term of respect and Rush Limbaugh will refer to Obama no other way.

    A few years back, some cracker asshole from Georgia referred to Obama as “uppity” and then claimed he had no idea that such a reference might be considered racist.

    Right.

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    aimai says:

    Dennis G,
    This is just a priceless blog post, excellent reporting and writing. I can’t thank you enough.

    aimai

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    alwhite says:

    I think only 1/3 of this bullshit is for the benefit of Gov Barbour. the other 2/3 – the really important part – is to whitewash the memory of the civil rights movement out of younger minds. Those of us old enough to actually remember those days know without lecture that his story is pure bullshit. But people under 50 did not live through those days and might be convinced of a sunny, happy dawning of the modern era of human rights in America. This is a valuable artifice to the current Republican Party because it highlights how good and decent white folk have been while those nasty, grubby, colored leeches have been so unreasonable in the continuing and excessive demands. THATS the real nut in this story, not one gasbags obviously fake memory.

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    tworivers says:

    Great piece of reporting, Dennis G.

    On a side note, is it me, or is Ben Smith particularly egregious (even by Politico standards) when it comes to parroting Republican talking points?

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    Valdivia says:

    Forwarded this far and wide. Awesome post!

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    Violet says:

    Really great post, Dennis. Thanks.

    Haley Barbour can never be elected President. There’s just no way America elects Boss Hogg President. Not gonna happen.

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    nitpicker says:

    Actually, I think this is all a bit simpler. As far as I can figure out, Barbour would have been in college in June 1966 and not high school.

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    David Koch says:

    Halley Barbour. That’s our man, you know. He’s one of us.

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    Legalize says:

    To be fair, the 60s were like a hundred years ago, and Haley probably saw the whole thing through the tiny eye-holes in his white hood. So, it makes sense that he’s iffy on a lot of the details.

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    lllphd says:

    dennis, excellent history. just superb, putting haley in his place, as it were.

    the simple giveaway, of course, was the girl-watching. one wonders, was he watching (in his parlance) colored girls? would love to see him try to answer that one, in the negative, of course. then i’d like to see him try to conjure up all those young, nubile white girls whose parents surely allowed them to go to this event in MS in the 60s. unh hunh, you betcha.

    his memory is as if this was some kind of rock concert! hell, i graduated HS in AL in 67; my parents would not even allow me to attend a peter, paul, and mary concert!

    what universe is this guy deluding himself from?

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    Nutella says:

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    Nobody bothered with the confederate flag until the fifties when it was brought out as a symbol of resistance to civil rights. Anyone who claims it’s some grand historical tradition to wave it around is wrong.

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    redoubt says:

    I’ve read all the New York Times reporting and this is a generous recreation of events that Smith presents as being a fact.

    This is one of the few times you will literally see “whitewashing.”

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    Carnacki says:

    @Angry Black Lady: I suspect most Faux News viewers would be happiest seeing a young assHaley holding one of those traitorous flags, but he’s got to deceive the independents who’d prefer to view him with a blind eye.

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    Carnacki says:

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: People who tout the symbol of traitorous losers as their “heritage” are people who self-identify themselves as also traitorous losers.

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    Carnacki says:

    @aimai: DennisG, what aimai said.

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    xian says:

    Keep talking about the civil rights era, Haley. That’s your wheelhouse.

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    celticdragonchick says:

    Great post, DG. I am forwarding this to some of my profs at Guilford College.

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    Wordsmith says:

    We had some dude, Frosty McWhatever (from Colorado), (I’ll have to ask a blogging friend) who claimed he marched with MLK Jr in Anniston, Alabama. Gave the roadway name, date, everything so it musta been true. Would come on progressive sites, mouth off his racist libertarian bullshit & then throw in how he marched with MLK, Jr., biked all over the world, yadda, yadda.

    Yep – I called him on it. Contacted John Lewis’ office (since he mentioned him as well); contacted some other folks involved at the time and still involved in Alabama. Simply put – He’s a liar. I could feel it at a gut level just like with Mr. Fat-Ass himself, Haley Barbour. Haley is a good ole, white boy. Of course it wasn’t that bad …. for HIM. Ask the people involved, the ones targeted, those who read signs such as ‘No Niggers. No Dogs.’ If GOWB Haley can’t tell the truth about the fight for civil rights & race relations in goddamned Mississippi fer christsakes, he can’t tell the truth about shit.

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    Benjamin Cisco says:

    Many thanks to you, DennisG. This point cannot be hammered home hard enough.

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    maya says:

    So Haley got his dates mixed up. So what. To paraphrase Dick Cheney: “Reagan proved that demetia don’t matter”.

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    acallidryas says:

    I don’t know why everyone is giving Haley such a hard time about this. I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have no trouble believing he went with friends to watch a civil rights rally; I believe he didn’t pay attention to anything said; and I believe he spent his time harassing women attendees and otherwise “doing what [white, southern] boys do”.

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    In 1964 I was 11 yrs old and living in central Ohio (add for ’66) and I very clearly remember the horror I felt that this was happening in my country and the fear I felt for the Civil Rights workers. This isn’t a projected bullshit “I was there,” thing – I wasn’t. The memory of the physical reaction of stomach churning illness has stayed with me ever since. I’m white, my parents were professionals (ie middle class), and I was over a thousand miles away. Fuck you Barbour.

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    El Cid says:

    I asked Martin Luther King Jr. for his opinion on Haley Barbour when MLK Jr. had spoken at a local Atlanta mall in 1998.

    Now, I might have gotten a detail or other slightly off, but if you libruls want to try and read racism into every statement, I’m sure you can yell about how I was lying.

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    rikyrah says:

    Boss Hogg knows that he’s nothing more than a CAC in a suit. It reeks from him. He’s always been a CAC, and he’s mad that enough of us Negroes are still alive, and not willing to go along with his attempt a revising the truth of what was the POLICE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI for all who weren’t CAC like him. Sorry, not going along with it. When you’ve reveled in being a CAC, you don’t get to pretend that you aren’t.

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    Evolved Deep Southerner says:

    @rikyrah: OK, I’ll bite. CAC stands for …?

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    Evolved Deep Southerner says:

    Confederate American Chickenhawk?

    Caucasian American Confederate?

    This thread is dead. I will always be left to wonder, I reckon.

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    rikyrah says:

    CAC=Cracker Ass Cracker

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