Was anyone else surprised that most of ESPN’s talking heads picked the Packers to win today?
ESPN guys picking the Packers
Adam Shefter
Chris Mortensen
Trent Dilfer
Steve Young
Teddy Bruschi
Tom Jackson
Mike Ditka
Chris Berman
Mike Tirico
Sean Payton
Jon Gruden
ESPN guys picking the Steelers
Ron Jaworski
Cris Carter
Keyshawn Johnson
3.
Three-nineteen
I’m going over to a friend’s house, so I won’t be here for the Superbowl open thread. I just have this to say: fuck Ronald Reagan. It’s incredible how, even when he’s dead, that man can keep ruining things. Seriously, fuck him in every orifice. In fact, I hope the worms made a lot of holes in his dead body so he can get fucked even more.
Go Pack.
4.
Mark S.
Hey, back then, the Bud Bowl was a lot more exciting than the Super Bowl, where the score was usually 52-6.
Does anyone else hate those NFL films documentaries? A bunch of slow motion, pretentious narration, classical music, and terrible camera angles. I’ve never gotten a feeling from watching one what the game was actually like.
Oh great. They’re boned. Keyshawn is stopped clock right usually, and on this I don’t think the clock has stopped running.
6.
4jkb4ia
My Dad’s contribution to “Lawyer up”:
You have to see how the courts of appeals frame the issue before you know how the Supremes are going to rule. It will definitely be in the area of 5-4 and the mandate will not invalidate the whole law. Probably we will see nothing from them for another year and a half and a lot could happen before then. Agreed that Roberts will be concerned with the Court’s legitimacy.
(Has taught Supreme Court for basically 4jkb4ia’s entire life–retired now)
7.
FoxinSocks
Woohoo!
Happy Superb Owl Day!
8.
inkadu
@Mark S.: The music is usually ripped off from John Williams scores. I remember the theme from Jurassaic Park used to be quite popular for the slo mo.
I turned on the Pre-game to see Jennifer Aniston over-throwing a football to somebody, I think it was Strahan. The then pivoted to Maroon fucking 5. Rock the Milquetoast Casbah!
Dear Mr. President,
Come take a walk with me.
Let’s pretend we’re just two people and
You’re not better than me.
I’d like to ask you some questions if we can speak honestly.
What do you feel when you see all the jobless on the street?
Who do you pray for at night before you go to sleep?
What do you feel when you look in the mirror?
Are you proud?
How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?
How do you dream when a mother has no chance to say goodbye?
How do you walk with your head held high?
Can you even look me in the eye
And tell me why?
Dear Mr. President,
Were you a lonely boy?
Are you a lonely boy?
Are you a lonely boy?
How can you say
No child is left behind?
We’re not dumb and we’re not blind.
They’re all sitting in your cells
While you pave the road to hell.
Love it. It’s like the intro to one of the cop shows.
26.
emdee
@inkadu: NFL Films will occasionally use movie scores in their films, but they are famous for commissioning composers to write music for their films. Hundreds and hundreds of short pieces, most orchestral. Some are so famous you now hear them in Chunky Soup commercials or other officially licensed thing.
iTunes, Amazon, etc. all sell NFL Films music. It’s good stuff if you like scores.
@Comrade Mary: #PuppyBowl is trending on Twitter. I have no idea what it means.
@DougJ: The wiki for the Bud Bowl doesn’t explain its demise on national television, though it does have a footnote indicating that it still took place as of 2006. It also somewhat inexplicably renders the 3rd and 8th Bud Bowls in Arabic numerals, while the other six got the Roman treatment. Go figure.
It’s incredibly kick ass theme music. It totally blows away that bullshit music NBC now uses for Football Night in America.
32.
Napoleon
Mike J, I was actually watching the monekees at first (it is one channel off from Fox on the HD subchannels on my TV) before flipping to the pregame.
33.
Mr Stagger Lee
President Obama, why are dealing with this idiot? Wall Street Journal Editorial Board = Fox News! Most people want to move left in health care, Billo The Clown!
Well fuckitall. I *really* wanted to watch the Obama interview, turned on FNC (which I just *never* watch), some blonde sneering the news, where’s my Preznit??
Never thought to check the local Fox 5 channel until 25 minutes in to the interview. I hope they rerun it at some point
Turned out OK in the end, but Maxi Rodriguez should still be keel-hauled, tarred and feathered, and made to wear sackcloth and ashes.
46.
JPL
@Michael D.: The last several years the President has done an interview with the station broadcasting the SuperBowl. Most of the time it’s light. Murdoch wanted to prove a point I guess.
I didn’t see the entire interview, how’d he do?
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47.
Yutsano
@rikyrah: A bud of mine and me are having a gentleman’s disagreement over who to root for. He’s pulling for the Stillers while I’m behind the Pack (yeah I’m from Seattle and bitter, why do you ask?) so we’re just agreeing to disagree there.
48.
Chet
@hilts: Oddly enough, NBC also used that theme for their baseball coverage in that era. Here’s a bumper for the 1975 World Series featuring the same music:
Why the fuck did Obama agree to an interview with Bill O’Reilly.
Great question when one considers the fact that Fox News’ programming is a super-sized, putrid, steaming pile of excrement and a bottomless cesspool of lies.
It was actually a pretty good interview. O’Reilly kept poo-pooing the premise of the President’s answers, treating them like evasions, and Obama couldn’t help but do that smirk. He was asked about his popularity, and said “Bill, you have great ratings, too. For a cable network.” The implication being that maybe 1 million watch Fox News, but many, many more millions VOTED for Obama.
52.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@Michael D.: Beacause he can come across as a reasonable, pragmatic guy who likes football to an audience that doesn’t always see him that way. Mission accomplished
53.
RossInDetroit
I’m going to finish reading William Gibson’s book Zero History. Because I’m a snob, that’s why.
Tomorrow someone will tell me who won.
Were you asking about The Decembrists on a thread from last night? Have you never listened to them?
Colin Meloy is a genius, though of a rather peculiar kind. I really like The Decembrists but they take so much attention and mental energy it has to be small doses.
@jwb:
That’s really good. Got him. These media types who think they are so clever get made fools of by Obama on a regular basis.
The put down was sublime.
It definitely has a timeless quality unlike the garbage theme music used today.
If by timeless you mean the late 1960s through the middle of the 1970s.
Most of that music is just some bizarre blend of the pop music of the time, jazz (well, not really jazz since the arrangements allow for no improvisation, so jazz-ish), funk and classic movie scores. It’s leisure suit music.
That’s the sort of music played in discos in cheap ’60s/’70s films (at least cheap with the music budget)…You know, the type of music you can’t imagine anyone dancing to in real life.
@Mark S.: I like that theme because it has a definite point where the v/o has to be over for the proper dramatic effect. Big swell, generic bed, generic bed, generic bed, big finish. A donut theme designed for professionals who knew how to talk right up to exactly the right second.
80.
Polar Bear Squares
I think Bud Light won the last one.
The fix is in. I predict it will be a close game, there will be several close calls and they will inexplicably, like always, go to the advantage of the Steelers.
I just hope for a good game tho.
81.
Napoleon
BGinCHI
That and some Cake and New P***ographers was what I have had on all day. I like the new CD.
I don’t think it’s harsh enough. It’s really bizarre music. It’s like porn- not porn music- as described by Peter Boyle’s character in Hardcore: Nobody makes it. Nobody shows plays it. Nobody sees hums it. It’s like it doesn’t even exist.
83.
BGinCHI
@Napoleon: OK, now I have the song “From Blown Speakers” in my head. Love the NPs. Wish Neko sang with them more though….
ok was anyone else as confused by the reading of the Declaration of Independence as I was. First what does that have to do with football? Then when it started and I could see by some of the cuts it was pretty clear they werejust reading a couple phrases and and some didn’t seem to understand the context. I almost wanted to see them do the whole thing to be even more confused, so I was kind of disappointed that they decided to skip over the list of grievences.
It would be nice if they brought Sergio Mendes up and did Mas Que Nada. Other than that, I could care less about the circus that surrounds the Super Bowl, and more so this year because the Packers are playing in the game. Although it would be nice to see the Art Ensemble of Chicago play halftime one of these years before they’re all dead.
I could go for some Art Ensemble of Chicago, Weather Report, or Tangerine Dream myself.
95.
RossInDetroit
@BGinCHI:
I haven’t heard the new Decembrists yet. I’ve cooled off from my former hot pace of 10+ cds/month. When I was working from home I could crank tunes all day. Now I work feet away from three colossal gas boilers and music listening is out of the question. I don’t generally like music as background noise because it’s distracting but I just figured out how to pretty benign compression with my digital mastering processor so I can have instrumental recordings on and it’s not intrusive. DSP is the bomb.
I kind of do care who wins the game but only in the cultural sense that other people care. I have nothing personal invested in the outcome.
96.
RossInDetroit
I’ve been pushing the New P***phers on anyone who will stand still. Utter genius. Why did it take this long for ’80s pop to be perfected? Neko’s solo stuff is pretty outstanding as well. Even the country record.
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Omnes Omnibus
Isn’t it at halftime?
hilts
Was anyone else surprised that most of ESPN’s talking heads picked the Packers to win today?
ESPN guys picking the Packers
Adam Shefter
Chris Mortensen
Trent Dilfer
Steve Young
Teddy Bruschi
Tom Jackson
Mike Ditka
Chris Berman
Mike Tirico
Sean Payton
Jon Gruden
ESPN guys picking the Steelers
Ron Jaworski
Cris Carter
Keyshawn Johnson
Three-nineteen
I’m going over to a friend’s house, so I won’t be here for the Superbowl open thread. I just have this to say: fuck Ronald Reagan. It’s incredible how, even when he’s dead, that man can keep ruining things. Seriously, fuck him in every orifice. In fact, I hope the worms made a lot of holes in his dead body so he can get fucked even more.
Go Pack.
Mark S.
Hey, back then, the Bud Bowl was a lot more exciting than the Super Bowl, where the score was usually 52-6.
Does anyone else hate those NFL films documentaries? A bunch of slow motion, pretentious narration, classical music, and terrible camera angles. I’ve never gotten a feeling from watching one what the game was actually like.
Yutsano
@hilts:
Oh great. They’re boned. Keyshawn is stopped clock right usually, and on this I don’t think the clock has stopped running.
4jkb4ia
My Dad’s contribution to “Lawyer up”:
You have to see how the courts of appeals frame the issue before you know how the Supremes are going to rule. It will definitely be in the area of 5-4 and the mandate will not invalidate the whole law. Probably we will see nothing from them for another year and a half and a lot could happen before then. Agreed that Roberts will be concerned with the Court’s legitimacy.
(Has taught Supreme Court for basically 4jkb4ia’s entire life–retired now)
FoxinSocks
Woohoo!
Happy Superb Owl Day!
inkadu
@Mark S.: The music is usually ripped off from John Williams scores. I remember the theme from Jurassaic Park used to be quite popular for the slo mo.
Joel
Rajon Rondo is completely on fire.
Steelers R Bradys Bitches aka 2liberal
go packers !
If the steelers win, the KITTEN DIES!
Hostage photo
Chet
Meh. Wake me up when pitchers and catchers report.
freelancer
I turned on the Pre-game to see Jennifer Aniston over-throwing a football to somebody, I think it was Strahan. The then pivoted to Maroon fucking 5. Rock the Milquetoast Casbah!
I think I’m gonna take a nap.
hilts
The Greatest Fucking NFL Opening Theme Music of All-Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv-datkQYUU&playnext=1&list=PL2C70FEE7F04CEDE9
Uncle Clarence Thomas
.
.
I’m rooting for the Pink team…
Dear Mr. President,
Come take a walk with me.
Let’s pretend we’re just two people and
You’re not better than me.
I’d like to ask you some questions if we can speak honestly.
What do you feel when you see all the jobless on the street?
Who do you pray for at night before you go to sleep?
What do you feel when you look in the mirror?
Are you proud?
How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?
How do you dream when a mother has no chance to say goodbye?
How do you walk with your head held high?
Can you even look me in the eye
And tell me why?
Dear Mr. President,
Were you a lonely boy?
Are you a lonely boy?
Are you a lonely boy?
How can you say
No child is left behind?
We’re not dumb and we’re not blind.
They’re all sitting in your cells
While you pave the road to hell.
Etc. etc. etc. rah rah rah.
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Comrade Mary
Yeah, P!nk really socked it to Bush.
Anyway, will there be a Puppy Bowl this year?
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@hilts:
Guess which of the two head coaches was an assistant with the Queens.
Omnes Omnibus
@Uncle Clarence Thomas: I guess you really showed us.
robertdsc-PowerBook
I wonder if Cole will make Lily and Rosie wear Terrible Towels.
Dogsbody
Whatever happened to the Bud Bowl?
I smoked it all.
BGinCHI
Spoiler Alert: Liverpool vs. Chelsea
Suck it Chelsky bitches!
It was so, so lovely to watch John Terry whinging at the ref after the match. Oh, boo fucking hoo asshole.
The reds are back. And we didn’t even use our new stars.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@Omnes Omnibus:
I know, I know.
I guess I’m going to have to turn the tv off, put on my hair shirt and read the collected works of Ralph Nader now.
freelancer
BillO and Obama coming up soon?
“How’d da Republican House get dere? How’d it get dere? If you’re so great, how’d it get dere?”
Napoleon
OK, I flip the TV on and it is going to be Bill O interviewing Obama. Flipped it off. No need to ruin my day.
Mark S.
@Uncle Clarence Thomas:
Go fuck off somewhere else.
@hilts:
And here’s the porniest opening music ever.
JD Rhoades
@hilts:
Love it. It’s like the intro to one of the cop shows.
emdee
@inkadu: NFL Films will occasionally use movie scores in their films, but they are famous for commissioning composers to write music for their films. Hundreds and hundreds of short pieces, most orchestral. Some are so famous you now hear them in Chunky Soup commercials or other officially licensed thing.
iTunes, Amazon, etc. all sell NFL Films music. It’s good stuff if you like scores.
MikeJ
@Napoleon: Channel 116 has The Monkees on. Davey Jones is going to be a boxer. Then an hour of the Partridge Family and it’ll be time to go to Costco.
blogbytom
@Comrade Mary: #PuppyBowl is trending on Twitter. I have no idea what it means.
@DougJ: The wiki for the Bud Bowl doesn’t explain its demise on national television, though it does have a footnote indicating that it still took place as of 2006. It also somewhat inexplicably renders the 3rd and 8th Bud Bowls in Arabic numerals, while the other six got the Roman treatment. Go figure.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@MikeJ:
You mean channel 17.2, right?
adolphus
@Comrade Mary:
Hell’s yes!
It’s on right now.
Chicken Cheerleaders.
Hamster Blimp Pilots.
Celebrity spectators.
Kiss Cam!
hilts
@JD Rhoades:
It’s incredibly kick ass theme music. It totally blows away that bullshit music NBC now uses for Football Night in America.
Napoleon
Mike J, I was actually watching the monekees at first (it is one channel off from Fox on the HD subchannels on my TV) before flipping to the pregame.
Mr Stagger Lee
President Obama, why are dealing with this idiot? Wall Street Journal Editorial Board = Fox News! Most people want to move left in health care, Billo The Clown!
S. cerevisiae
@hilts: Definitely a Quinn/Martin production.
hilts
@Mark S.:
Thanks for that trip down memory lane.
SiubhanDuinne
Well fuckitall. I *really* wanted to watch the Obama interview, turned on FNC (which I just *never* watch), some blonde sneering the news, where’s my Preznit??
Never thought to check the local Fox 5 channel until 25 minutes in to the interview. I hope they rerun it at some point
rikyrah
don’t really have a horse in this game. I hate the Packers (I’m from Chicago) and I can’t stand Big Ben.
so, all I can hope for is a good game.
Mark S.
@blogbytom:
And if that isn’t enough, DougJ, here’s a recap of all 8 Bud Bowls.
burnspbesq
Meanwhile, in another part of town …
The lead story in today’s LA Times describes how the House Energy and Commerce Committee became a wholly-owned subsidiary of Koch Industries.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-koch-brothers-20110206,0,4692342,full.story
Napoleon
OK, now the Partridge Family is on, and Bill O still is so PF it is.
Michael D.
Why the fuck did Obama agree to an interview with Bill O’Reilly.
jwb
@rikyrah: You can always root for the Steelers and that Big Ben is put in the hospital ward.
JPL
I just watched the end of the interview..how do you handle that people hate you…but they really hate you.
well, Bill fuckem and fuck you…most people hate you also,too.
hilts
@S. cerevisiae:
That announcer who used to say “a Quinn Martin production” had a hell of a voice.
burnspbesq
@BGinCHI:
Turned out OK in the end, but Maxi Rodriguez should still be keel-hauled, tarred and feathered, and made to wear sackcloth and ashes.
JPL
@Michael D.: The last several years the President has done an interview with the station broadcasting the SuperBowl. Most of the time it’s light. Murdoch wanted to prove a point I guess.
I didn’t see the entire interview, how’d he do?
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Yutsano
@rikyrah: A bud of mine and me are having a gentleman’s disagreement over who to root for. He’s pulling for the Stillers while I’m behind the Pack (yeah I’m from Seattle and bitter, why do you ask?) so we’re just agreeing to disagree there.
Chet
@hilts: Oddly enough, NBC also used that theme for their baseball coverage in that era. Here’s a bumper for the 1975 World Series featuring the same music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9dVkPAqtzE
mr. whipple
@Michael D.:
So he could punch hippies!
hilts
@Michael D.:
Great question when one considers the fact that Fox News’ programming is a super-sized, putrid, steaming pile of excrement and a bottomless cesspool of lies.
freelancer
@Michael D.:
It was actually a pretty good interview. O’Reilly kept poo-pooing the premise of the President’s answers, treating them like evasions, and Obama couldn’t help but do that smirk. He was asked about his popularity, and said “Bill, you have great ratings, too. For a cable network.” The implication being that maybe 1 million watch Fox News, but many, many more millions VOTED for Obama.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@Michael D.: Beacause he can come across as a reasonable, pragmatic guy who likes football to an audience that doesn’t always see him that way. Mission accomplished
RossInDetroit
I’m going to finish reading William Gibson’s book Zero History. Because I’m a snob, that’s why.
Tomorrow someone will tell me who won.
jnfr
I’m so excited that CB won Most Valuable Puppy!
Puppy Bowl, for those of us who don’t watch the SB!
Yutsano
@freelancer:
Oh. Snap. No he DIDN’T!! That is teh awesome sauce right there.
BGinCHI
@burnspbesq: Yeah, bad miss. Still, they looked solid, and without Suarez and Carroll (out for a few more weeks).
Were you asking about The Decembrists on a thread from last night? Have you never listened to them?
hilts
@Chet:
It definitely has a timeless quality unlike the garbage theme music used today.
4jkb4ia
Gibbs hurt his MCL, out for 10-14 days, including West Virginia game tomorrow.
jwb
@freelancer: “Bill, you have great ratings, too. For a cable network.” Why, is that O’Reilly’s guts laying there on the floor? Yes, it is.
jnfr
@Comrade Mary:
Puppy Bowl VII in fact. It’s a hot one this year.
freelancer
@Yutsano:
That’s not a direct transcript, that’s just the ouvre of what his answer was. Classic Obama.
Mr Stagger Lee
@RossInDetroit:
The team with the most points, silly! :-D!!!
mr. whipple
LOL. That’s my guy.
RossInDetroit
@BGinCHI:
Colin Meloy is a genius, though of a rather peculiar kind. I really like The Decembrists but they take so much attention and mental energy it has to be small doses.
hilts
@Michael D.:
At least Obama didn’t sit down with Sean Hannity or Glenn Beckistan.
S. cerevisiae
@jnfr: I try to watch them both, cute puppies are hard to resist.
Loneoak
I was able to host a party today by convincing my wife it is actually a Puppy Bowl party.
Go Pack Go!
Omnes Omnibus
@RossInDetroit: If you that much of a snob, then why do you even care who won?
freelancer
Here’s the twitter reax.
Maude
@jwb:
That’s really good. Got him. These media types who think they are so clever get made fools of by Obama on a regular basis.
The put down was sublime.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@hilts:
If by timeless you mean the late 1960s through the middle of the 1970s.
Most of that music is just some bizarre blend of the pop music of the time, jazz (well, not really jazz since the arrangements allow for no improvisation, so jazz-ish), funk and classic movie scores. It’s leisure suit music.
inkadu
@emdee: Neat!
Mark S.
This was my favorite MNF theme song. I think they went with the Hank Williams, Jr. crap shortly afterward.
All my rowdy friends
hilts
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):
Maybe, “timeless” wasn’t the best word, but it still sounds great to me. I think “leisure suit music” is a bit harsh.
hilts
@Mark S.:
Hank Williams, Jr. appeared at a campaign rally with McCain and Palin so he can go fuck himself IMHO.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@Mark S.:
Did you click on this one (1973)?
That’s the sort of music played in discos in cheap ’60s/’70s films (at least cheap with the music budget)…You know, the type of music you can’t imagine anyone dancing to in real life.
DougJ
@4jkb4ia:
Thanks!
BGinCHI
@RossInDetroit: Agreed. Heard the new record yet? I haven’t, but need to get it.
MikeJ
@Mark S.: I like that theme because it has a definite point where the v/o has to be over for the proper dramatic effect. Big swell, generic bed, generic bed, generic bed, big finish. A donut theme designed for professionals who knew how to talk right up to exactly the right second.
Polar Bear Squares
I think Bud Light won the last one.
The fix is in. I predict it will be a close game, there will be several close calls and they will inexplicably, like always, go to the advantage of the Steelers.
I just hope for a good game tho.
Napoleon
BGinCHI
That and some Cake and New P***ographers was what I have had on all day. I like the new CD.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@hilts:
I don’t think it’s harsh enough. It’s really bizarre music. It’s like porn- not porn music- as described by Peter Boyle’s character in Hardcore: Nobody makes it. Nobody
showsplays it. Nobodyseeshums it. It’s like it doesn’t even exist.BGinCHI
@Napoleon: OK, now I have the song “From Blown Speakers” in my head. Love the NPs. Wish Neko sang with them more though….
freelancer
Video of the Obama/O’Reilly Interview here.
Redshirt
Once Bud Light Lime was allowed to play – with the obvious performance enhancing drug usage – the game was ruined, and Bud Bowl ended in disgrace.
I blame the Dutch.
quaint irene
I see somebody beat me to it. Screw Bud Bowl. Yay, Puppy Bowl!
Especially the water bowl cam.
Phil Perspective
@hilts: And there is also this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE
;-)
hilts
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):
Do you have an opinion on the choice of the Black Eyed Peas for the Halftime Show?
hilts
Cue The Voice of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1NeJFIdUJQ&feature=related
hilts
@Phil Perspective:
Thx
mcmillan
ok was anyone else as confused by the reading of the Declaration of Independence as I was. First what does that have to do with football? Then when it started and I could see by some of the cuts it was pretty clear they werejust reading a couple phrases and and some didn’t seem to understand the context. I almost wanted to see them do the whole thing to be even more confused, so I was kind of disappointed that they decided to skip over the list of grievences.
catpal
Puppy Bowl!
Impressive starting line-up.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@hilts:
It would be nice if they brought Sergio Mendes up and did Mas Que Nada. Other than that, I could care less about the circus that surrounds the Super Bowl, and more so this year because the Packers are playing in the game. Although it would be nice to see the Art Ensemble of Chicago play halftime one of these years before they’re all dead.
hilts
@Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):
I could go for some Art Ensemble of Chicago, Weather Report, or Tangerine Dream myself.
RossInDetroit
@BGinCHI:
I haven’t heard the new Decembrists yet. I’ve cooled off from my former hot pace of 10+ cds/month. When I was working from home I could crank tunes all day. Now I work feet away from three colossal gas boilers and music listening is out of the question. I don’t generally like music as background noise because it’s distracting but I just figured out how to pretty benign compression with my digital mastering processor so I can have instrumental recordings on and it’s not intrusive. DSP is the bomb.
I kind of do care who wins the game but only in the cultural sense that other people care. I have nothing personal invested in the outcome.
RossInDetroit
I’ve been pushing the New P***phers on anyone who will stand still. Utter genius. Why did it take this long for ’80s pop to be perfected? Neko’s solo stuff is pretty outstanding as well. Even the country record.