Uh oh! Wingnuts are very upset that some guy was very mad and said some stuff a few hours after being shot in the knee and the back!
Why does he hate America? Why is he blood libeling Sarah Palin?
*** Update ***
Christ. I was kidding about the blood libeling thing. They really are saying that, though. Sweet jeebus.
cathyx
I’m glad somebody said it. The best person to say it would be a victim.
cathyx
And being a vet made it even better.
Barb (formerly Gex)
But he voted for Giffords, so they already have all they need to discount what he says. I’m tired of the lunatic fringe right and all the lazy privileged moderates that can’t see them for what they are.
freelancer
Not shitting you, TBogg reported that conservatard JammieWearingFool actually framed it this way, without irony.
General Stuck
These people are too stupid to spoof
Like mocking turkeys on Thanksgiving.
Linda Featheringill
I have never been shot but I’ll bet it hurts. For a long time. If he got shot in the knee, bless his heart.
BGinCHI
I wish these goddamn whiny 63-year-old disabled vets who get shot while minding their own business would just move to fucking Russia.
Cacti
I guess he forgot who the real victim was.
JPL
@freelancer: Because the only folks that have to take personal responsibility for their words and actions are liberals. Sarah is not responsible for her words and actions because she is the chosen one.
BGinCHI
This, I shit you not, is the main headline and story from the AP when I log in to my Yahoo email account:
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Slow blood libel news day?
dmsilev
Lovely:
Satire is dead.
dms
Villago Delenda Est
Being a veteran does not exempt you from being a traitor to Murica.
I get the “thank you for your service, but…” shit all the time when I point out to wingtards that they’re morons.
General Stuck
OT
And what’s up with this? I mean “Reince Priebus”, sounds mighty french to me, and might I say, a little ghey.
cathyx
@BGinCHI: That comment could only be improved if you said Iraq or Afghanistan. Just sayin’.
Cacti
@Villago Delenda Est:
Just ask John Kerry.
Miltary service doesn’t mean squat to them if your political affiliation doesn’t start with “R”.
freelancer
@JPL:
I’m just saying Cole’s trying to top their rhetoric with hyperbole. Can’t be done. They’ve gone to plaid.
The Dangerman
Was watching some random news program today and there was some Teatard exclaiming that he had to have a high capacity clip in case the government becomes too tyrannical. Now, how does that work in practice? What does “too tyrannical” even mean? Do they get together in some Teatard secret location and have a vote on tyranny? Do they leave it up to their unelected Leaders (Beck, Rush) to claim tyranny? How many
dayshoursminutes do they expect to last in any revolt against a far better armed government?Don’t get me wrong; I’m not advocating gun control (barn door, horse gone), but I could be persuaded about ammunition control (eliminating those high capacity clips). But this nonsense about overthrowing a tyrannical government when they claim HCR is government tyranny is just a wee bit unsettling.
freelancer
@General Stuck:
I liked comic Eugene Mirman’s take on it:
Mnemosyne
@Cacti:
Win.
Calouste
@General Stuck:
My initial idea was Afrikaner rather than French (Afrikaner names tend to be a mixture of Dutch, German and Hugenot French), but when someone noted that his real first name is Reinhold, it became clear that it’s plain German. He’ll probably get along ok with Herr Böhner.
Omnes Omnibus
@Villago Delenda Est:The tone of voice that comes with the “Thank you for your service, but…” is priceless as well.
stuckinred
@Villago Delenda Est: You got that right bro.
Linkmeister
Susie Madrak’s son had an interesting idea: Mandatory liability insurance for guns. A sliding scale for higher risk factors (toddlers in your house? Pay more!).
Kinda makes sense to me, and insurance companies should love it.
Cacti
@The Dangerman:
Six shooter vs. Abrams Tank
lol
Calouste
It’s just not blood libel any more, it’s a pogrom against conservative thinkers.
Some people would point out that using the word pogrom in connection to a non-existing group makes it somehow less offensive, but I’d disagree.
The Dangerman
@Linkmeister:
Would never pass; argument would be that insurance would identify gun owners and would be a first step to confiscation.
Edit: Also, we’ve learned that mandatory purchases of insurance is clearly unconstitutional.
mike
I think the victims are pretty much allowed to say what they want and all the people he called out set themselves up for it. That’s the way it goes when you say stupid shit.
Villago Delenda Est
I don’t think I want to know, because I suspect it means going after the imagined “tyrant” and anyone standing anywhere near them outside a grocery store.
Villago Delenda Est
I don’t think I want to know, because I suspect it means going after the imagined “tyrant” and anyone standing anywhere near them outside a grocery store.
suzanne
@freelancer:
Here. Have an internet.
LMAO.
General Stuck
@Calouste:
German, great. Maybe we’ll learn later his great grand pappy ran the portable guillotine outside The Volksgerichtshof.
Bubblegum Tate
Tbogg’s headline is pure win.
But getting shot is only the beginning for this poor guy. He’s about to get a full-on teabagger hategasm.
stuckinred
@The Dangerman: Paul Broun, my congressman!
FlipYrWhig
@Calouste: “Reinhold Priebus” sounds like the name of a Mittel-European avant-garde composer. “Others experimenting with atony in this period included Anton Webern and Reinhold Priebus.”
Mark S.
@Calouste:
Christ, these people. They’re beyond parody.
Davis X. Machina
This is because he has an incorrectly formed idea of history, and doesn’t understand the dialectic.
There will be casualties, even innocent casualties; this is inherent in the nature of revolutions. In the meantime, we must consolidate our steady progress towards revolution, and look forward with to the day of final triumph for the Party — which will of necessity be followed by the inevitable withering-away of the State. All power to the soviets of preachers and hedge-fund managers!
The last Leninist parliamentary party in the West is the GOP.
Davis X. Machina
@Cacti: But right is on their side. Wolverines!
General Stuck
“Ongoing Pogrom” is going to confound your average Joe Sixpack winger. “Blood Libel” is simple, And just screams out “Let’s kick some ass”.
Bubblegum Tate
@The Dangerman:
How many days hours minutes do they expect to last in any revolt against a far better armed government?
You don’t understand–when the great teabagger uprising happens, the military will be on their side. Because the military is mostly conservative, and because the military pedged to fight enemies both foreign and domestic, and that kenyan commie nazi muslim in the WH is most assuredly a domestic enemy.
That’s not satire, either. That’s what the teabaggers seriously think.
JCT
Saw that “pogrom” comment from the always-delightful Washington Times today and truly thought it was a joke it was so insane.
And I agree that this vet is about to get creamed by these hopeless Teatard assholes. It really *is* beyond parody.
@stuckinred
Wow — Braun makes me want to give my MD back. He’s a fucking cretin.
MattMinus
I find it very comforting that the wingnuts are going after the shooting victims. It was very disconcerting that we had reached a place where there was nothing an insane righty blogger could say that you couldn’t find a Republican Senator to repeat.
Here, I think we’ve found someplace where Republican officialdom won’t follow the lowest common denominator.
soonergrunt
You just wait. That 9-year-old’s family better keep to themselves, or they’ll start getting threats too.
Conservatism is a mental illness.
MikeJ
@JCT: When’s the last time somebody mentioned the Washington times? They’ve been outcrazied.
They knew exactly what they were saying, and said to grab attention.
asiangrrlMN
Oh crap. I admire the guy for saying it, but he just let himself in for a world of Lipton Tea Bagger Party craziness! (I’m branding the Tea Party for them with the horrible Lipton. Rest of the teas, they belong to me).
@MattMinus: Wanna bet? Oh, maybe not an exact repeat, but something along the lines of, “While we feel sorry for Mr. Got shot by crazy man, we are disappointed that he has taken the opportunity to politicize the shootings.”
Barb (formerly Gex)
@Bubblegum Tate: It always comforts me when veterans here and on other blogs inform us that the military will not be on the neo-confederates’ side when the shit hits the fan. Although, I’m not sure about the Air Force.
ETA: Fuck. I just figured out that’s why Blackwater/Xe got so many opportunities to practice in Iraq. I guess anyone in the military who’d be on the South’s side would just go there.
stuckinred
@soonergrunt: Pat Lang at Sic Semper Tyrannis is on fire about the 9/11 flag at her service and Obama quoting the “puddles” at the memorial. I read him because he is usually pretty level headed but he’s beside himself over this.
freelancer
@The Dangerman:
Rachel Maddow and EJ Dionne laid waste to this stoopid, gunnut talking point in the past few days.
It boils down to the text of the 2nd Amendment:
We need to be armed so that we can overthrow the government if need be. However, in a day and age where overthrowing the government means defeating the military, you’re gonna have to drink a lot of Pepsi to save up the points to get that Harrier, because you’re never going to be allowed to buy one from McDonnell-Douglas otherwise. Also, my neighbor wants an Apache gunship and I’d like my own Ohio Class SSBN to put in Lake Oglalla.
Never going to happen, so the argument of following the text of the Constitution through to its intent is radical and a nonstarter in today’s 21-century world.
jwb
@mike: True, except everyone knows that Sarah! is the real victim here.
stuckinred
“Do I not care about the dead and wounded Yes I do, especially in the case of the little girl, but American reaction to this incident confirms my belief that we are a “degenerating stock.” A flag was brought to the poor child’s funeral from Ground Zero? Why? Is it imagined that there was some connection between that attack on the United States and this child’s death at the hands of a lunatic? pl “
Mojotron
It’s just not blood libel any more, it’s a pogrom against conservative thinkers.
Kristolnacht
WyldPirate
@Cacti:
You misunderestimate the Palinistas who will save America from the The Jihadist Obamafascist hordes that are taking ‘Murica from it’s rightful heirs.
They know how to make sticky bombs….”bombs that stick.
Wolverines…..and thirty-round magazines!
stuckinred
“Did Obama really say that this child is now “dancing in the puddles of heaven?” and that she would have wanted him to build a “better democracy?” Is that true? If it is, that represents a new low. pl”
Felanius Kootea (formerly Salt and freshly ground black people)
@The Dangerman: Why did he stop at high capacity clips? If the government gets too tyrannical, surely he’d need rocket-propelled grenade launchers. And maybe a suitcase nuke. And a way to infiltrate the US Army.
kdaug
@soonergrunt:
Yurp. Seems to be the case.
At least there’s a clinical explanation.
Davis X. Machina
@stuckinred: It was a bit off-putting, or at least I found it so. It was as if Peggy Noonan had changed sides for a few sentences.
asiangrrlMN
@Felanius Kootea (formerly Salt and freshly ground black people): And nukes. Never forget the nukes.
The Dangerman
@Barb (formerly Gex):
No one is going to pay Blackwater/Xe enough money, which means no Blackwater/Xe; sure, the Koch’s have enough money, but they aren’t going to fund a sure loser that ends with them swinging from a rope for treason.
Barb (formerly Gex)
@The Dangerman: Isn’t Eric Prince a true believer? I think it is a religious thing for him.
The Dangerman
@Barb (formerly Gex):
Don’t know who he is. Assuming he is the head of B/Xe, he can be a true believer all he wants; he has to pay his mercenaries.
Suffern ACE
@stuckinred: That came from a Congressman?
Jack Canuck
@Mojotron:
“Kristolnacht”
FTW
Ash Can
Disabled military veterans are the shiznit as long as they don’t get uppity.
@stuckinred: I don’t even understand wtf that’s supposed to mean.
Mnemosyne
@stuckinred:
Assuming I was at the correct Sic Semper Tyrannis blog (I think the posts were signed with that “jl”), it looks like he’s playing the same game as our obsessive trolls who insist we can’t think that what happened in Tuscon is a tragedy while we’re still in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Apparently they need to learn the concept of “having two different thoughts at the same time.”
Barb (formerly Gex)
@Mnemosyne: Can we get them to try one coherent thought at a time first?
gwangung
Guess they’re forgetting who really shed the blood…
eemom
Dayum. Another hat tip I didn’t get, even though I’m the one who linked to that earlier and foresaw the “blood libel” thing.
If I didn’t already know Cole doesn’t like me, I might start to think he didn’t like me. : (
de stijl
Everyone knows that being being criticized is a billionty times worse than being shot in the head.
trollhattan
@freelancer:
I hope when Red, White and Blue Dawn hits, our military can forge a pact with the UN so they can bring their black helicopters(tm) for the wingnut roundup. Wingnuts are skeert of some black helicopters.
Wolverines!
JWL
Treason was committed by those that engineered the unleashing of the 2003 Iraq war. That treason is viciously defended by republican party, and shamefully denied by their democratic counterparts. What else need be known about our two-party system? The chickens are coming home to roost.
That said, you better believe the GOP is chock full of swine who would endorse the following:
The tree of liberty was watered last weekend. Get over it.
Let’s face it: if it weren’t for child labor laws, that little girl might have been standing somewhere other than in harms way.
Tyranny is at our door, which is why Sarah Palin (in particular) lives day-to-day in mortal danger.
J
In the heat of the moment, not too long after news of the shootings reached me, I think I made a comment on this blog that I later thought had gone too far–something about expecting the wingnuts to say that the victims had it coming. They may get there yet.
nevsky42
@Mojotron: More love for this comment…
Comrade Baron Elmo
Let’s hope that no more Democrats get shot by unhinged nutballs anytime soon — haven’t conservatives suffered enough?
freelancer
@Comrade Baron Elmo:
Thank you. It took seventy-two attempts, but you won. This is the perfect distillation of the absurdity of America today.
soonergrunt
@Comrade Baron Elmo: Where do you want your part of the internets delivered?
wasabi gasp
Thankless punctured geezer demonstrates why granny-killing death panels lost top billing to job homicide.
Nellcote
@Mojotron:
That was last March when a dozen Dem office windows got trashed.
Jeffro
@soonergrunt:
Yup, WIN
SiubhanDuinne
@The Dangerman #26:
Here’s a funny (well, funny to me). One of the minor quirks about reading BJ on the BlackBerry is that the last line of blockquoted material is just slightly squashed, so the descenders (on letters like g, j, p, q and y) are cut off.
I say all that so that you’ll know why I laughed out loud, and right heartily, at your blockquote which showed up on my tiny screen as:
celticdragonchick
@cathyx:
That doesn’t matter anymore. Remember what the right did to Max Cleland…a decorated & crippled vteran?
Anne Laurie
@Ash Can: __
If I can parse from the Wingnutease, it means “Talking about rain puddles in heaven makes Obama look like the faggitty-fag-limpwrist-pansy we all know he secretly wants to be. Our REAL president, Sarah Palin, would already have avenged that nine-year-old’s death by dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran. And invading South Korea. North Korea — heck, any o’ them slant-eyed so-called nations, they’re all stealing our jerbs, and sometimes ya just have to throw some crappy little country up against the wall, y’know?”
celticdragonchick
@freelancer:
Something to keep in mind is that in the event of a modern insurrection/civil war, it is estimated that at least half of the combat troops in the army would either refuse to fight or actually defect to the insurgents…according to a study back in th 1990’s based on whether soldiers would willing go door to door to confiscate guns. Many units would be combat ineffective before even going into combat.
freelancer
@celticdragonchick:
Any modern insurrection isn’t going to have geographic delineations. There will be no Mason-Dixon line. It’s not gonna be Red States vs. Blue States, we are too dispersed along ideological lines and too intermixed amongst each other for that, and as such, chain of command is going to keep a tight-ass leash on their people from noncoms all the way up to the top.
Anyways, I hate speculating about it simply because it’s too chaotic and the way any horror like what we’re talking about would actually unfold would simply be unforeseeable. I was simply saying, given the modern Military-Industrial-Governmental complex, the original intent of the 2nd Amendment is laughable when you consider the citizenry of this nation. We’ll never be invaded by a foreign power because of our armed population (at least not without a heavy dose of nuclear strikes), but in terms of firepower, the FBI is holding more cards than the biggest gun enthusiast on the planet and if Eric Holder (or Alberto Gonzalez or John Ashcroft or Janet Reno) wants to come in, (s/)he’s coming in.
CatStaff
@FlipYrWhig: You just gave me my first really good laugh today. And I’m still at it.
maya
Where would you find conservative thinkers besides Minneapolis men’s room stalls?
Julie
@freelancer:
Winner!
Tax Analyst
@stuckinred:
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I could be wrong, but I believe it was something the child herself had written in a yearbook or a school paper.
Gwangung
@Tax Analyst: I’m sure some tea partier will trash the child.
Ruckus
@soonergrunt:
Conservatism is a mental illness.
Don’t know if I’ve ever read truer words.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@freelancer:
That’s terror level Blackwatch Plaid to you bub. ;)
I’m glad he spoke out but I’m also sure that the teabaggers are going to do their best to make him regret it. These people are crazy and you can’t reason with crazy people.
@Tax Analyst:
It was from a book that had pics and quotes from 50 kids that were born on 9-11-2001. She was in it and Obama read from that.
Zuzu's Petals
@The Dangerman:
Well according to Tim Pawlenty, it means the gubmint taking away your freedom to use taxpayer money to send your kid to private school.
timb
@The Dangerman:
Ask David Koresh how it worked out for him
Bender
The Lesson We Learn That We Already Knew:
Just because someone gets shot by a murderous loon, it doesn’t mean they aren’t an ignorant asshole.
xian
@Bender: if I were you I’d probably try to avoid mouthing phrases like “ignorant asshole.”