The Murkowski name

The Corner melt-down over Lisa Murkowski’s decision to run as an independent is something to behold:

This is outrageous. The Murkowski name should be struck from every temple, monument and obelisk in Alaska.

I think independent campaigns or party switches are forgivable or understandable on some grand issue of principle. Joe Lieberman’s steadfast support for the war comes to mind. But reading this, it sounds like Murkowski thinks she should run because the people who like her have told her what she wants to hear. How is she anything more than Arlen Specter in a dress?

I suppose I have to plead guilty to supporting her decision for the sole reason that it pisses off conservatives.






96 replies
  1. 1
    SIA says:

    Nevada, Delaware, Colorado, Alaska. Which of these gifts can our team fuck up?

  2. 2
    beltane says:

    So I take it this isn’t good news for John McCain.

  3. 3
    Roger Moore says:

    I suppose I have to plead guilty to supporting her decision for the sole reason that it pisses off hurts the electoral chances of conservatives.

    FTFY.

  4. 4
    rootless_e says:

    Well, it’s about that time here in the heartland so if i offended anyone I didn’t mean to offend, sorry, but stop whining.

    This Texas Halacha is tough stuff.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    How irresponsible would it be to speculate that she’s doing this out of raw hatred for Palin?

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    Cain says:

    @beltane:

    So I take it this isn’t good news for John McCain.

    This is excellent news for John McCain!

    Will our Lady of Grizzilies be out there doing her shtick? Dammit, I’m going to miss all the fun when I go to India.

    cain

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    DougJ says:

    @Roger Moore:

    I think Miller will win anyway. I’m honestly just happy to see the right-wing scream about it.

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    CalD says:

    They have obelisks in Alaska?

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    Bokonon says:

    Short version: independents are great when they split from the Democrats – hey, that’s principle!

    But anyone who splits from the GOP to run as an independent is a HERETIC and TRAITOR that deserves to DIE for their DISLOYALTY.

    And then when they are good and dead, their name must be stricken from buildings, highways, etc,. and they must be buried in unconsecrated ground, in an unmarked grave, with a stake through their heart … as one who has forsaken God.

    You see, this is all very consistent and principled. Because we are told that it is by the great brain trust at the National Review.

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    manwith7talents says:

    obelisks? Her name is on obelisks?

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    eastriver says:

    I’m sending Murkowski a couple hundred bucks. Just because.

    Let’s start the stealth “Realpublicans” campaign, and try and get all the losers to run as third partiers.

  12. 12
    El Cid says:

    @CalD: Yeah, I thought those were warm climate lizards.

  13. 13
    Steve says:

    I never expected this kind of selfish conduct from the political family where the corrupt father appointed his daughter to a Senate seat!

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    Cris says:

    But reading this, it sounds like Murkowski thinks she should run because the people who like her have told her what she wants to hear.

    Which never happened to Lieberman, no not at all.

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    Lev says:

    Nate Silver seems to think Murkowski could win:

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.n.....-write-in/

    Would she still caucus with the GOP, I wonder? Since it looks like Crist is losing ground in FLA, I guess this is what will replace it.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Cripes, popcorn futures are going sky high this year!

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    Bokonon says:

    I think the crack team at The Corner confused “obelisk” with “oil rig.” There are lots of the latter in Alaska, and not so much of the former.

    And those oil rigs have got PLENTY to do with Murkowski’s political career. In fact, you could even call them her base!

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    Loneoak says:

    I wouldn’t get into the middle of an Alaskan circular firing squad. Those dudes use big game ammo.

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    Sean says:

    There’s a Murkowski obelisk?

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    slag says:

    @CalD: Surely not! Alaska is real American country. But the thought of an obelisk with Lisa Murkowski’s name on it is especially disturbing.

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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    And I’m pretty sure they’ll all hold to that view when a Democrat runs against the nomination.

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    cleter says:

    @manwith7talents: The thing about obelisks is a quote from the Charlton Heston “Ten Commandments.”

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    Mark S. says:

    I think independent campaigns or party switches are forgivable or understandable on some grand issue of principle. Joe Lieberman’s steadfast support for the war comes to mind.

    Tell us more, Mr. Jackass.

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    ruemara says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    1. Does it matter? & 2. Wouldn’t you, by now?

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    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    I suppose I have to plead guilty to supporting her decision for the sole reason that it pisses off conservatives.

    Guilty but I’ll deal with it. :)

  26. 26
    Lev says:

    Well, integrity is overrated anyway.

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    Martin says:

    Could dreams come true? Could the land of the midnight wingnut find itself with two Democratic Senators?

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    Jinchi says:

    Okay, so what does it do for the math of passing legislation between now and the elections if the Democrats are smart enough to get her to stop filibustering with the Republicans?

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    Jbird says:

    I don’t know; perhaps the two are more comparable than the Corner thinks.

    Joe Lieberman, for instance, ran as an independent because he was in favor of the war and the Democratic candidate wasn’t. Lisa Murkowski will run as an independent because the Republican candidate is now a fumbling idiot who doesn’t understand how the U.S. Congress works and thinks that Mitch McConnell determines seniority.

    You could say that both of them have arguments to advance.

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    maya says:

    Murkowski is actually demonstrating the highest possible obtainable Republican virtue there is: Every man,( or woman), for himself, Jack.

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    AlanDean says:

    “for the sole reason that it pisses off conservatives”

    I agree but can you really piss off the professionally outraged?

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    Lev says:

    @Martin: It’s a real shame that the teatards didn’t try to take on Don Young. I’m not sure why they didn’t, since he’s pro-choice and all. The combination of two frosh senators (Begich and Miller, most likely) plus a rookie congressman would mean that their congressional delegation would have no seniority, and so the federal spigot to Alaska would have been completely cut off.

    For shame, teatards!

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    Admiral_Komack says:

    @Mark S.:

    …sniff… sniff…ugh…smells like Dean…Howard Dean.

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    Bob Loblaw says:

    @Lev:

    Of course she would still caucus with the Republicans. Do you think any GOP bigwigs are excited to see Miller come to Washington?

    This isn’t like Rubio/Crist, where Rubio had already put in his time with the state party leadership and become speaker of the house down there. He’s slimy as all get out, but the guy has a discernible political game (and future). Miller’s some fucking nobody Palin pulled in off the streets.

    Murkowski’s a premium grifter in the oil & gas industry. They wouldn’t cut her loose. It doesn’t matter though, since nobody wins write-in campaigns. Even in a tiny state like Alaska. All this probably does is hurt McAdams a tiny bit.

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    Tsulagi says:

    I suppose I have to plead guilty to supporting her decision for the sole reason that it pisses off conservatives.

    Sounds like as good a reason as any.

    Of course the vaunted RSSF is all up in arms about this too. Maybe they’ll demonstrate their bold seriousity by buying some snow to send to her.

    Um, when Lieberman went that route didn’t they say that was the only thing a man of principle like Joe could do? And don’t teahadis themselves say their principles transcend party affliation? Maybe Lisa is just doing a little transcending on her own. They should cheer her convictions.

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    morzer says:

    @CalD:

    Only the 200 obelisks along the ceremonial way to the Temple of Federal Pork aka The Ted Stevens Memorial Shrine and Don Young Annexe.

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    Jinchi says:

    @Jbird:

    No, Lieberman ran as an Independent because he lost the Democratic primary. He didn’t care what Ned Lamont’s position on the war was. He wanted his Senate seat.

    Likewise, Murkowski doesn’t care that Miller is a nut any more than she cares that James Inhofe is a nut. She’s an Independent because the Republicans rejected her. That’s all.

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    JAHILL10 says:

    I think the Repubs are starting to figure out that throwing your support behind the Know Nothings to try to ride the Teatard Tiger is going to backfire big time. It’s the whole Republican hierarchy obsession. All these people who have supposedly paid their dues in the party are now finding they’re under the party bus and don’t take kindly to it.

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    beltane says:

    Murkowski has tons of cash on hand. If her true motivation here is get revenge on Sarah Palin, this could end up as the epic take-down of an epic mean girl.

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    Martin says:

    And this will be very difficult for her to pull off. Every write-in will be contested and ‘Murkowski’ will get misspelled a lot. You can’t bring in any campaign materials either (electioneering laws) – and the parties will be out scouring for those things.

    The good news is that McAdams can probably run a good positive local issues campaign and do alright since she and Miller will go hammer and tongs after each other.

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    gbear says:

    @eastriver:

    I’m sending Murkowski a couple hundred bucks. Just because.

    Give it to a food bank instead. Make it do some good.

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    Tom says:

    I understand that Murkowski is a multi-generational political family but how many votes will be stricken from spelling errors? Lieberman got himself on the ballot, not a write in. This is a great gift and the Dem candidate seems to be just fine.

    edit– I see Martin beat me to it regarding spelling issues for the voter.

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    beltane says:

    @gbear: Better yet, send it to McAdams.

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    Cris says:

    @Martin: Every write-in will be contested and ‘Murkowski’ will get misspelled a lot.

    I question the significance of this, though. Isn’t there a “voter intent” clause?

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    cat48 says:

    Would she still caucus with the GOP, I wonder?

    The email one of the hysterical people at NRO says NO chairmanship; stripped of everything!; etc…….sounds encouraging.

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    cat48 says:

    @Martin: Yes, but they have the “Alaskan Handprompter!” No need to take anything in.

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    gbear says:

    @beltane:

    Nope. Screw giving money to politicians now. There are far too many people falling into poverty. Fucking 20% of all children are living in poverty now.

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    Tsulagi says:

    ‘Murkowski’ will get misspelled a lot.

    That’s funny. Hadn’t thought of that. In addition to reading voting instructions, she’s counting on her base to be able to spell. Good luck with that.

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    Martin says:

    @Cris: Sure. And there will be at least one party and possibly two, depending on the vote counts here, fighting over that intent. Does the phrase ‘hanging chad’ ring a bell? If it’s in any way close, and it pretty much just guaranteed to get a lot closer, this should prove to be an epic clusterfuck of politics meets voter rights.

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    Jbird says:

    @Jinchi:

    Well, yes, you’re right, but I’m saying, you extend as much generosity as you can to Lieberman’s stated reasoning and you still have to admit that Murkowski can make an even better argument as to why Miller has to be kept at the kids’ table.

    This is because Ned Lamont does not appear to be an unqualified idiot.

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    The only monument for the small government wingnuts in Alaska is a giant pig trough plugged straight into the national treasury in Washington DC.

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    Martin says:

    @cat48: Heh, taking cues from Caribou Barbie to get Murkowski elected. That’s gonna leave a mark…

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    beltane says:

    Reading this in The Hill http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-.....ers-summit makes me wonder if some of this has to do with taking Jim DeMint down a peg. The old guard, corrupt but sane Republicans must be more than a little resentful at this point, especially as the teabaggers are calling Murkowski the antichrist.

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    aimai says:

    If Murkowski is “Arlen Specter in a dress” does that make Lieberman “Arlen specter in pants?” I don’t get this sartorial thing.

    aimai

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    Jbird says:

    @Tsulagi:

    Well, I believe Alaska has an intent law that governs here, so you could actually write in ‘Lisa “Heifer” MOOcowski’ and that would probably count.

  56. 56
    New Yorker says:

    Oh boy, am I going to enjoy the Murkowski-Palin catfight.

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    Gus says:

    @SIA: All of them?

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    El Cid says:

    @aimai: And would those be “man pants”?

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    @aimai: Lieberman is just Lieberman in a tutu./

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    gbear says:

    @aimai:

    If Murkowski is “Arlen Specter in a dress” does that make Lieberman “Arlen specter in pants?”

    Man-pants.

    Edit: damn, too slow.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Jinchi:

    Okay, so what does it do for the math of passing legislation between now and the elections if the Democrats are smart enough to get her to stop filibustering with the Republicans?

    Shit. The D’s will “respect” the will of the people and not push through any legislation during a lame duck session.

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    dmsilev says:

    They can’t even get their butchered movie quotes right:

    Let the name of Moses be stricken from every book and tablet, stricken from all pylons and obelisks, stricken from every monument of Egypt. Let the name of Moses be unheard and unspoken, erased from the memory of men for all time.

    dms

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    JGabriel says:

    aimai: Lieberman is Arlen Specter with lead weights in his jowls and a Droopy Dog modulator on his vocal cords.

    .

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @aimai: Temporally speaking, the Lieberman situation came first. Perhaps a jerkin (for homophonic accuracy), a fig leaf (for faux biblical street cred), or naked (for the sheer horror of it) might be considered.

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    Tom Hilton says:

    I think independent campaigns or party switches are forgivable or understandable on some grand issue of principle if they help Republicans.

    Fixed.

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    MikeBoyScout says:

    WARNING: Do not allow your mind to picture this!

    Obelisks are reviled by real Murikans as phallic symbols in homage to the Egyptian (Muslim!!) sun god.

    No way that the former half-term First Dude’s obelisk needs to have Murkowski’s name struck from it, does it?

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    SIA says:

    @Gus: I’ll give ’em 50/50. But here’s a fun game. Which of the teabags would be the worst?

    Florida wasn’t in my list, since Crist isn’t helping the Dems. But Rubio could be the worst, as a true believer and not as dumb as a sack of hair. Angle definitely scary bad. O’Donnell, even worster, as Sarah’s LittleMe. Buck is a big goof ball, but not as bad as the chicks, I hate to say. Miller. Dumb ass. I vote O’Donnell, Angle, and Rubio in that order. Who am I leaving out? Rand Paul aka Eddie Haskell. Add him in position 4.

    Help us Jeebus.

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    soylrnth says:

    What’s really funny is they are appropriating pharoah’s rhetoric instead of moses’. All pharoah really needed was a tax cut and more grateful slaves.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    DougJ, I see you are now BJ’s McMegan. Are congratulations or commiserations in order?

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    Kirk Spencer says:

    @Bob Loblaw: While in normal times I’d agree, these aren’t normal times.

    See, Miller said, publicly and many times, that McConnell has told him that if Murkowski runs independent and wins, she won’t have her seniority as a Republican because she won’t be a Republican.

    Now McConnell hasn’t verified, that, but on the other hand he’s had a lot of opportunities while remaining silent. And as this goes on, sooner or later someone is going to push him for an answer. Murkowski if nobody else. Because if McConnell will take either, then Murkowski gets the Republicans who like her plus all the ones who couldn’t vote in that primary who like her for a relatively easy win. But that tees off the Tea Party folk who canned Murkowski.

    On the other hand if he backs Miller, well, Murkowski has this decent chance of winning. And you can just hear the minds working through the Democratic party past: Jeffords, Lieberman, Specter all got to keep their de facto seniority. So if he backs Miller and Lisa wins, what party do you think has a decent chance of having one more member?

    No guarantees, just lots and lots of cards to track.

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    Mark S. says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    DougJ, I see you are now BJ’s McMegan.

    Huh? Where do you get that?

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    BGinCHI says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Obviously Cole is drunk. Dougj goes nuclear.

    I predict a riot.

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    Mark S. says:

    @Mark S.:

    Never mind, I get it now.

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    JohnR says:

    “some grand issue of principle”

    Bwahahaha! That principle being, of course, if it helps the GOP. My reason is always square-jawed, manly and noble with just a hint of heroic self-sacrifice, while your reason is always craven, corrupt and self-serving with a hearty helping of greedy back-stabbing.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @BGinCHI: Ooooh, fun.

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    Chris G. says:

    @Tom: Clearly, she needs a catchy jingle that will help voters remember how to spell her name.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    DougJ, just wanted to say that I love your new title!

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    Chad N Freude says:

    @Lev:

    integrity is overrated

    I am so gonna steal this!

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    DougJ is the business and economics editor for Balloon Juice. says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Thank you. I couldn’t fit the stuff about all the start ups and MBAs into the title line.

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    Left Coast Tom says:

    Is the Balloon Juice “business and economics editor” title a “hypothetical”?

    Also, too. If there’s anybody on the planet who visits Alaska to see it’s “temple[s], monument[s], and obelisk[s]”, please don’t introduce me to that person.

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    DougJ is the business and economics editor for Balloon Juice. says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I tell you what’s going to happen: two days a week, I am going to forcefully rebut whatever Keynesian nonsense Paul Krugman has written in his column that day. The rest of the week, I am going to reprint FreedomWorks propaganda and blab about pink Himalayan salt.

    The challenge will be writing 1200 words posts about all these things. I may need your help.

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    catclub says:

    The key point about Lieberman was how the democratic senators treated him and Lamont. And the answer is they sucked up to him and told Lamont to kiss off.
    That includes Obama.

    It will be very interesting to see how the GOP senators treat her.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Anne Laurie: Thank God I finally got this.

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    dww44 says:

    @Jinchi:

    Your reading of both Lieberman and Murkowski’s rationales for running as independents is “on the money”. Heh.

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    rikyrah says:

    I think it’s hilarious.

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    Sentient Puddle says:

    TPM:

    The New York Times reported earlier today that, unlike in some other write-in challenged, Alaska state elections director Gail Fenumiai would take a liberal view of attempts to spell Murkowski’s name: “If I can determine voter intent, then the ballot would be counted accordingly,” she wrote.

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    asiangrrlMN says:

    @DougJ is the business and economics editor for Balloon Juice.: So, if you’re MM2, does that make dengre TNC? Who’s Sully? So many questions, so little time!

    As for Lisa Murkowski, this is gonna be fuuuuun! Watching the haggling over the ballots in MN for the Franken/Coleman race was not fun, but this one? Pass me the popcorn, Francis!

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    cmorenc says:

    @SIA

    Nevada, Delaware, Colorado, Alaska. Which of these gifts can our team fuck up?

    Actually, Murkowski’s decision to run isn’t quite the gift it at first may appear to be. She’s equally or more likely to drain off potential GOP voters repulsed by McAdams’ extremism who would have considered crossing over for McAdams than she is to drain off potential GOP voters who would have shown up to vote for Miller instead if she wasn’t running a write-in campaign. Her net effect may be to drain off too many GOP voters dissatisfied with Miller that McAdams needed to attract to make up the GOP-leaning partisan demographic gap in Alaska.

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    cmorenc says:

    er…that should be Miller’s extremism that repulses some GOP voters who might have considered voting for McAdams, had MurKowski not jumped in.

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    Ailuridae says:

    @efgoldman:

    I hate Lieberman as well and I think he’s a genuine sociopath. That being said he voted with the caucus 90% of the time since Obama’s election and I highly doubt it would have been anywhere near that number if he had been removed from the caucus.

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    Ailuridae says:

    @Kirk Spencer:

    Whether she wins or not the Democrats would be foolish to not approach Collins, Snowe and Murkowski to caucus with them the day after the election. Neither Collins or Snowe will survive the inevitable primary challenge from the right in Maine (where the Republican party is as extreme as anywhere) and there simply isn’t a place for a pro-choice politician in the GOP any more.

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    celticdragonchick says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    How irresponsible would it be to speculate that she’s doing this out of raw hatred for Palin?

    I can’t think of a better reason.

    I am actually donating to her campaign. It’s about time somebody in the GOP stood up to Palin, Rush and the tea idiots.

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    Jinchi says:

    @celticdragonchick:

    It’s about time somebody in the GOP stood up to Palin, Rush and the tea idiots.

    When did she stand up to the tea idiots? She’s continued to vote in lockstep with the Republicans since she lost her primary. She voted to filibuster the Small Business bill just 2 days ago.

    Specter left the party the moment it became obvious they were going to throw him overboard. And Crist has managed to derail their plans in Florida since Rubio pushed him out. Sure these guys are acting completely out of self-interest, but at least they’re showing the party that purges have consequences.

    But Murkowski? Maybe you should wait to see how she votes on the next few bills before you jump on her bandwagon.

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    Murkowski’s no Crist, either: He is at least a ruthlessly talented politician/snake who’s actually got his name on the ballot- and who at least started his independent candidacy with a big lead, NONE of which are the case with Murkowski

    Now Joe Miller can whip two libs instead of one, as Palin said about Murkowski’s decision yesterday “It’s all good”.

    And even Orange Charlie is getting creamed by double digits in the latest poll, so far Rubio had no problem facing two boneheads that support the Obama agenda AT ALL- Miller won’t either.

    Go get ’em Joe

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    Ron says:

    @SIA: You think it would be a gift, but polling data doesn’t really support it. Poll numbers in a 3-way race that I saw were something like Miller-38,Murkowski-34,McAdams-22 so it’s still quite an uphill battle to take advantage of this one.

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