Open Thread: Thursday Nite Menu

Take it away, Bad Horse’s Filly:

What a week. I had a great time today talking with college students about resource efficiency and sustainability (or the dreaded, “going green” a nonsense term IMHO). It went really well and I think we connected on a couple changes they could make that would make a true difference. First and foremost, get rid of bottled water. And I was happy to see many hold up their reusable bottles when I mentioned it. All of this having nothing to do with food, so, without further delay, here is tonight’s menu.
On the board tonight:
Cranberry Chicken
Cheesy-Lemon Cauliflower
Ice Cream Sundaes

Recipes and shopping list at the link.

(Fellow Whats 4 Dinner Solutions blogger JeffreyW’s cat is shocked that hoomins would debase an innocent chicken so outrageously)

76 replies
  1. 1
    Henry says:

    looks more like a matrix dodge to me :)

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    Jon H says:

    He’s dancing like the characters from the Peanuts cartoon specials.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    I confess, I stuck to disposable bottles for a long time because I could never find one I liked. The plastic reusable ones ended up with a weird taste from the soap that never seemed to go away and the stainless steel ones had that really annoying screw-on, screw-off top that I knew would drive me nuts within the first hour.

    Then I spotted this Roho bottle at Target and it was love at first sight. Not only is it stainless steel so it doesn’t hold onto that soap taste, it has a flip top!

    I got the “Tweet” pattern but they have a bunch of others as well.

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    General Egali Tarian Stuck says:

    That’s one cool cat.

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    Sentient Puddle says:

    Not very food related, but on the topic of our NCAA group…

    SUCK IT !!

    Random coin flips placing me at #38, baby!!

    (and the second Butler is out, I’m fucked)

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    Tuksie Kitteh has deh moves!

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    MikeTheZ says:

    Continuing my image binge, one for Reid

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    Violet says:

    Bad Horse’s Filly, how are you doing today? I hope better after the earlier events of the week.

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    Cain says:

    Harry looks like hell. Poor guy… the accident must be taking a toll on him. Reid, please more like this.


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    MikeTheZ says:

    God, Rachel Maddow (aside from the segment with Lt. Choi) has been in full, 100% gloat mode today.

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    To Bad Horse’s Filly:

    It is good to hear you sounding so chipper. Always good to see life go on.

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    jeffreyw says:

    Since I posted that to Flickr it has become my most viewed pic ever. Been getting trackbacks from all over, but I guess my favorite are the ones from Here’s the flickr url:
    I still like this one a bit better:

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    jeffreyw says:

    As long as we’re on food, here are some baby back ribs:

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @jeffreyw: He is a very handsome kitteh! I love his jelly bean toe pads.

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    MikeTheZ says:

    @Juror #7: TELEPROMPTERS!

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    Fax Paladin says:

    Ceiling cat be praised!

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    MikeTheZ says:

    @And Another Thing…: Cantor is a danger to me. But I’m not bitter that he’s my representative. Honest.

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    gbear says:

    Mark Potok, the director of publications and information for the Southern Poverty Law Center, was on Fresh Air with Terry Gross tonight talking about hate groups. Potok just released a report called “Rage on the Right – The Year in Hate and Extremism” The SPLC certainly have their work cut out for them.

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    @Violet: and @Linda Featheringill: Thank you both. I didn’t have to work today, so that was nice. Interesting talk with the company owner Wednesday. He’s having some serious concerns about keeping this person with the company. So the drama will continue for a few more days, anyway.

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    ellaesther says:

    Oh, the hoominity!

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    @Juror #7: Does that photo mean you saw the big guy today??

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    gbear says:


    You say that like it’s a bad thing…

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    ellaesther says:

    @And Another Thing…: Holy crap, 70?

    I feel like I would need to be on cocaine just to keep up with her, and I’m only 45.

    And that John Dingle, up all night with the votin’ and the whatnot! I FELL ASLEEP WHILE TRYING TO LISTEN TO HIS POST-VOTE COMMENTS ON SUNDAY! He’s making with the comments, at 84 (I think), and I’m unable to keep my eyes open. What do they serve in the House cafeteria?

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    ellaesther says:

    @gbear: I heard that too! I said it on an earlier thread, so forgive me for repeating myself, but man alive, that was chilling information — and I kinda knew it already!

    I wish they would just keep the POTUS in an undisclosed location and let him govern over the country’s PA system or something….

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    Juror #7 says:

    @Bad Horse’s Filly: I did, and it was FREAKING AWESOME!

    (Some might even say it was a big fucking deal.)

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    Gus says:

    @jeffreyw: Whoa, I didn’t even notice the mouse at first. Is it a real mouse?

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    ellaesther says:

    @Fax Paladin: When Pentecostal kittehs speak in tongues, is it LOLtongues?

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    freelancer says:

    Anyone here who enjoyed Where the Wild Things Are, you’ll want to take a look at Spike Jonze’s new short film, “I’m Here”.
    It’s a very touching little piece, if not a mite asymmetrical, but if you liked WTWTA, you should enjoy it.

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    MTiffany says:

    I feel bad for Bart Stupak’s family, because of the way Tebaggin’ Taliban is terrorizing them. But…

    How did Stupak not see this coming? How did we not see this coming. He hijakced the HCR debate with a lie about abortion funding and caught the attention of every anti-choice theocon who was hoping for the Dems to be their own worst enemy. So he jumps on the back of the anti-choice tiger, and when it comes time to dismount (Obama’s executive order for Stupak’s yes vote) he gets bit.

    It seems kind of like “be careful what you wish for, ’cause you just might get it.” Stupak was a reliable back bencher who grabbed the spotlight. Great! Now the crazies know who he is.

    So what’s the lesson here? Hindsight is 20/20? It’s called grandstanding because everybody sees you?


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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    Can someone point me to the place in the health care bill where it says that government employees have to be on the exchanges.

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    Lisa K. says:

    Love the cat.

    Been totally addicted to the freepers this week. There is brain tissue splattered all over the website from all the heads exploding.

    Hey, freeps, as Friedman would say-Suck. On. This.

    As we say in New England…losahs!

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Juror #7:

    It’s a little scary how fast he’s gone gray. I think it took W about 6 years to get to that point.

    Of course, Obama’s accomplished in one year about as much as W did in 6, so I guess it works out.

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    jeffreyw says:

    @Gus: Yep, but that lazy cat didn’t catch it. We feed him too well. I guess.

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    jeffreyw says:

    @ellaesther: I think he worships Mrs J. She can open the kitty food tins. He’s never seen me do that.

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    Midnight Marauder says:

    I posted this in the other thread, but it’s kind of a big fucking deal:

    Bullet that hit Va. congressman’s office random

    RICHMOND, Va. — Richmond police say the bullet that hit a window of Republican Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor’s office had been randomly fired skyward.
    Amid reports of threats and vandalism against Democrats who voted Sunday for sweeping health care reforms, Cantor said at a Washington news conference Thursday that a bullet was fired into his Richmond office.
    In a news release, Richmond police said that the bullet had been fired into the air early Tuesday. It hit the front window of a building that houses Cantor’s campaign office as it fell to back earth at a sharp angle.
    The round landed on the floor of the office a foot inside a broken window pane. No one was in the building, and police say an investigation has yielded no suspects.

    Never forget this:

    I’ve received threats since I assumed elected office, not only because of my position, but also because I’m Jewish. I’ve never blamed anyone in this body for that. Period…
    Just recently I have been directly threatened. A bullet was shot through the window of my campaign office in Richmond this week. — Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)

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    Juror #7 says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yeah, I was just noticing how gray he looks in my photos. He’s earned it, but I hate to see it.

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    Juror #7 says:

    @jeffreyw: Squee! Yes, it was.

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    Fax Paladin says:

    @And Another Thing…: Meanwhile, one of the random Google ads at the left (not currently visible, but there a couple of clicks ago) wants to mark Pelosi’s birthday by giving her “the gift of early retirement.”

    Oh, yes: This is called the “Birthday Bomb Bash.” With “bomb” used in exactly the same light vein as the ads showing her on fire, and the gunsights on Palin’s website, of course…

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    Lisa K. says:

    @Midnight Marauder:

    I posted this in the other thread, but it’s kind of a big fucking deal

    Well, it certainly proves Eric Cantor is a big fucking liar, but we knew that.

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    Mister Papercut says:

    @Midnight Marauder:

    Richmond police say the bullet that hit a window of Republican Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor’s office had been randomly fired skyward.

    So the building of the company he contracts for direct mail got in the way of a falling bullet = the congressputz being “directly threatened.”

    I guess we can add Gravity to the long list of things that have a well-known liberal bias.

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    Redshift says:

    @Mnemosyne: To go gray from the responsibility of being president you have to actually consider it your responsibility and give a damn. Every other president in my lifetime, you could watch them aging. Bush didn’t start aging until his poll numbers seriously declined. Really. No gray after 9/11, no gray after the Iraq War started to go south, or Abu Ghraib, or Katrina, not until his second term when his poll numbers plummeted.

    Gives you a good idea of what he actually cared about.

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    @Juror #7:

    Some might even say it was a big fucking deal.


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    Gus says:

    @jeffreyw: Ha! We had mice recently. We have a cat, but he’s 14 years old and well into retirement.

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    KG says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): I’ve just started going through stuff today (trying to get ahead of the legal curve). I haven’t seen the requirement for government employees, but the Exchanges are dealt with starting with Section 1311 (if you have the pdf version that’s page 55).

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    Redshift says:

    @Mister Papercut: It really does show what a complete Rovian tool Cantor is. Try to blunt your opponents’ completely accurate complaint by claiming their secret motivation is what you are openly doing yourself.

    This wasn’t clear from the police report, since he could well not have known that it was a random shot beforehand. But Cantor described it just as “his campaign office,” and there is no way he was unaware that the building had no visible connection to him. This was done deliberately to throw the media off the scent, and it worked (for now), because most people aren’t as evil as modern conservatives.

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    mr. whipple says:

    I snapped this Obama pic, seconds before I shook his hand, the week UHC passed the House.

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    Anya says:

    Does anyone know why are Greenwald and Ezra are fighting on twitter? What started it?

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    Juror #7 says:

    @mr. whipple: Dude. Very cool.

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    Anya says:

    @Juror #7: You were there today? You are so lucky.

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    General Egali Tarian Stuck says:

    Kentucky is playing some awesome b-ball, and mostly are freshman. GO CATS!!

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    MikeJ says:

    @Anya: GG said that Ezra thought all oppo to HCR was “illegitimate”. Ezra said prove it bitch, called GG “purposefully misleading”, GG was offended that anyone would be so mean to him.

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    mr. whipple says:


    Thank you. Wish I could get bird shots as good as yours!


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    mr. whipple says:

    @Juror #7: Thanks!

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    daryljfontaine says:

    @BGK: He’s doing the Cabbage Patch!


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    Stroszek says:

    After rereading the Senate bill recently and watching the predictions of impending doom coming from the left’s repeal-and-replacers, I wonder how many people actually understand that this bill has made the Secretary of Health and Human Services one of the most powerful economic forces in the country. The exchange basically gives SecHealth sweeping, purposefully vague regulatory powers that don’t require any litigation or new legislation to aggressively enforce.

    Many people also don’t seem to realize that state exchange administrators basically have the power to respond to abusive private insurers by kicking them out of the exchange and funneling everyone on the individual market into either co-ops or the non-profit OPM plans.

    Despite all the angst about not having a national exchange, delegating all this authority to state administrators may very well mean we see several more progressive states like California go totally non-profit in their individual market. On top of that, SecHealth has complete authority to commandeer any exchange that allows insurers to price gouge or ignore regulations.

    I don’t know how you could read these sections of the law and come away with the kos-favorite canard that the bill was written by the insurance industry. The law we passed is not the Senate Finance Committee bill. The level of control HHS has over the individual insurance market is unlike anything we’ve seen before in this country.

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    Juror #7 says:

    @Anya: I was…and I agree. I still can’t believe I got tickets.

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    General Egali Tarian Stuck says:


    GG said that Ezra thought all oppo to HCR was “illegitimate”.

    the dude has issues. I went with “lying jackass”, but Ezra is a nicer person than me, and a lot smarter.

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    JAHILL10 says:

    @ mr. whipple

    Thanks for that. That is an awesome picture. I am so jealous!

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    Anya says:

    @MikeJ: And I am guessing Yglesias and Oliver Willis jumped into the fight. Why is GG arguing about this still. The Great Health Care Fight is done and now we move to other issues.

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    mr. whipple says:


    Thanks. That was my 5th Obama event, along with one with Michelle and one with Biden.

    /obvious Bot.

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    Anya says:

    @Juror #7: I saw the pictures at GOS and they are amazing. There was an adorable little kid named Barack and he has big ears like his namesake.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Despite all the angst about not having a national exchange, delegating all this authority to state administrators may very well mean we see several more progressive states like Democratic go all non-profit in their individual market.

    My kick right now is reminding people that making people buy insurance from private companies is not inherently problematic. Several healthcare systems — including Japan, Germany and Switzerland — all force their citizens to buy insurance from private companies. The difference is that they’re non-profit companies that are very tightly regulated by the government.

    The biggest problem with our system is that the whole damn thing is set up for profit. It’s not just insurance companies that expect to make a profit off sick people. It’s also hospitals and doctors and pharmaceutical companies. We really need to be transitioning away from a world where drug companies advertise their product and surgeons advertise which surgeries they’ll perform. It’s just so surreal to me that we run ads on TV and radio telling people to have specific surgical procedures or buy specific drugs.

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    General Egali Tarian Stuck says:


    There was an adorable little kid named Barack and he has big ear

    It is still the most endearing Obama event to me when he was in Egypt at one of the pyramids, or something, with the stone carving of a person with big ears, and Obama’s reaction “his ears look like mine:. As far as personally, that cemented my suspicion this was just a good dude to the core. His policies as president stand separate as good or bad and worthy of criticism, but my personal like for the guy was complete with that happening.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @General Egali Tarian Stuck: Greenwald is in love with himself, and he won’t stand for his beloved being insulted, so that’s why he gets twice as outraged.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Mnemosyne: Right — the concept of _insurance_ really isn’t inherently offensive. It’s a pretty clever idea that does salutary things like pool risk and establish mutual obligation and cushion against calamities — which is why a lot of them (used to) have “mutual” in their names. People like credit unions and hate banks; there’s no reason there couldn’t be anti-corporate insurance companies rather than these unwieldy behemoths we’re used to dealing with. Running the whole concern to squeeze the members (ahem) is the offensive part.

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    Stroszek says:

    @Mnemosyne: Ultimately, it comes down to the will of the government to regulate. Even if we had a universal Medicare buy-in, if you buy into the Firebagger rhetoric about the uselessness of regulation and the corrupt nature of Democrats… what makes you think providers wouldn’t just constantly lobby Congress to inflate Medicare reimbursement rates? Heck, this is why Medicare reimbursement rates are already significantly higher than what other countries pay out, including the private non-profits you mention.

    At the end of the day, you can’t say regulations will just be meaningless and still claim to be a progressive, because even the effectiveness of single-payer depends on the government’s willingness to stand up to the profit motives of providers.

    On that note, every progressive should be very, very happy that states will soon have complete, unchecked discretion to end for-profit insurance in the individual and small group markets.

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    Violet says:

    @mr. whipple:
    That’s an awesome photo!

    @Bad Horse’s Filly:
    Glad to hear you are okay. Sounds like your boss is on top of things, even though it could be a bit bumpy for awhile. Hopefully it’ll all get sorted out without too much stress or drama.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Media Matters has a piece on it that includes a quote from the relevant part of the bill.

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    Yutsano says:

    Kalamata olives at midnight. That is all.

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