You know, John, not all of us can be lazy cheetos-munching bloggers sitting around all day in our pajamas in our moms’ basements. Some of us have, you know, full time jobs, and pay taxes, and are Real Amurikins, not DFHs like you. Fuckin scumbag.
/teabagger
2.
TR
RT @samsteinhp: 6th teleprompter joke at CPAC. they really should just tear the two teleprompters on the stage down and burn them
3.
Legalize
I prefer to watch YouTube clips of Nuremberg Rallies. The production values are better.
@Legalize: Riefenstahl had *fifty* cameras rolling. With film, none of this digital crap. You can’t put on a really great racial purity rally without spending some money, which is why CPAC will always be a joke.
Hahaha, Jason Mattera. He’s like Cheetohs cross-bred with fail.
11.
Roger Moore
Sorry, John. I’m too busy paying attention to the plane crash in Austin that looks suspiciously like a poor attempt at a cross between Oklahoma City and 9/11.
Watching curling. The US men’s team is awesome until the kill shot. Down 4-0, comes back to lead 6-4, leading 6-5 with the hammer in the final end and blows a fairly routine draw to allow the tie. Then has a routine take-out for the win in the extra end and blows that.
Still a lot more fun that that “freak show on CSPAN.”
14.
hal
He declared that “even the slutty Obama girl has said her crush has faded,” and then went on to make fun of the “feminist new black man” — a “crossover between Rupaul and [Rep.] Barney Frank.”
So hung up on sexuality and race. Oh wait, sorry. There I go again, playing the race card. Nothing to see here.
Sorry, John. I’m too busy paying attention to the plane crash in Austin that looks suspiciously like a poor attempt at a cross between Oklahoma City and 9/11.
I swear to God the media here just drives me insane. This bobble head went from pimping a jihadist assault to some bizarre “it’s not a terrorist attack. Just a suicidal lone wolf” line when the terrorist turned out to be ‘Murican. They aer so blatant about saying It ain’t a terrorist attack if a white boy does it.
16.
eemom
no, and permit me to direct a heartfelt FUCK YOU at C-Span for airing this drek.
Sorry, John. I’m too busy paying attention to the plane crash in Austin that looks suspiciously like a poor attempt at a cross between Oklahoma City and 9/11.
What makes you say that?
AUSTIN, Texas – A low-flying small plane crashed into an office building that houses the Internal Revenue Service in Austin, Texas on Thursday…
Oh.
18.
dmsilev
I’d rather pound nails through my eardrums.
Besides, I’m at work and my coworkers would (justifiably) lynch me for inflicting stuff like that on them.
Turned it on in the middle of the Dick Armey remarks. It literally took him less than five seconds before he just outright lied (“Our health care is fabulous”-type lie).
Flipped over to PBS. “Nature” is on. It’s about wolves.
No, I got my Obama-bashing from Morning Ho and the op-ed pages this a.m. Sorta on the ledge today about the way he is being treated by everyone lately. Just depressing. Cocaine and teleprompter jokes I can live without. Oh, weakling on terror, tax and spend speeches, also. Maybe I will read about the freaks later if I cheer up.
30.
cat48
No, I got my Obama-bashing from Morning Ho and the op-ed pages this a.m. Sorta on the ledge today about the way he is being treated by everyone lately. Just depressing. Cocaine and teleprompter jokes I can live without. Oh, weakling on terror, tax and spend speeches, also. Maybe I will read about the freaks later if I cheer up.
Not to go all anti-conspiracy theorist here but a quick google-earth also reveals that those black buildings seem to be about the tallest things to crash into around there, so if you’re a wack-job aiming for your 15 minute of fame, they are rather the obvious target. And it’s not like it’s Feds only building. Still, carry on, this is still the chaos low-information stage.
36.
Just Some Fuckhead
Anyone else watching the freak show on CSPAN?
Why don’t you blog about it while yer sitting around doing nothing?
mark tapscott talking about freedom and young people, and why conservatives will win – hahaha. And now Tucker Carlson. shoot. me. now.
38.
Waynski
@John Cole — I assume it’s one of things you’ll watch so I don’t have to.
39.
KDP
I turned it on long enough to hear Erick the Red say:
“…amateurs. They should leave national security to experts like VP Cheney.”
By what stretch of past professional endeavor or experience can Cheney be consider a national security expert?
He has never served in the military, and his sole connection is being an executive with Halliburton. Halliburton, CACI, Booz-Allen and others expanded their operations as a direct result of the outsourcing of national security jobs to the private sector. This may have reduced the number of government employees on the payroll, but it has NOT reduced costs. Many of these outsourced workers used to be government employees. They worked their 20, retired with their valuable security clearances, and then came back to do the same job, but as contract workers making 2-3 times more after the cut their new employer takes.
40.
demo woman
@scav: I was watching online and local station was actually at the house fire and made the connection. Can’t remember his name but it was a common name and did not have Mohammed in front of the name.
@scav: Believe it or not, there are several buildings taller than 7 stories in Austin. Heck, the capital is probably taller.
42.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
OT: Sorry, but I just clicked over to Sullivan and came across this:
The Pet Shop Boys – a 100 million album-selling global phenomenon for 25 years (apart, weirdly from the US where radio simply cannot get over the myth that they’re an ’80s band) – give another interview on CNN. The video below helps explain why I love them so much. It’s their personality and sensibility, which is uncannily like my own. Not everyone has a pop group that might as well be them…
Wow, is this guy self-absorbed or what?
43.
scav
@demo woman: between what? The individual doing both things? I’m not arguing that, I’m just pointing out we know shit-all about motive at this point and that there are other things in the black buildings.
44.
demo woman
@KDP: Don’t forget that Cheney probably watched 24.
I think I am now required to give $10 to whoever is running against Marco Rubio.
46.
Davis X. Machina
By what stretch of past professional endeavor or experience can Cheney be consider a national security expert?
“National security” in the sense of “killing brown people who either worship the wrong God, or sit on top of an oil field, or both, without let or hindrance, on the flimsiest of ginned-up evidence, or without any evidence at all, to get rich and win elections”
That kind of national security?
47.
scav
Locally taller buildings? That’s why I went to google-earth. The guys in the air and decides at some point to go down: he examines local opportunities. We don’t know motive yet. If he had a specific motive that we don’t know yet, they yes, he may have aimed at that specific building but there are other things in that building.
Yeah Until Caribou Barbie comes by and shoots one from her helicopter.
49.
Common Sense
The pilot wrote a manifesto before he burned down his home and stole a plane. Surprise surprise — He was a right wing nut job:
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“We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.
While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.”
@scav: Believe it or not, there are several buildings taller than 7 stories in Austin. Heck, the capital is probably taller.
There’s a law in Austin that the Capitol has to be seen from a certain number of vantage points around the city, which prevents tall skyscrapers. The biggest in downtown is 40 stories or so. This happened well North of Downtown, however.
50.
4tehlulz
This plane incident wouldn’t have happened if Obama didn’t raise our taxes.
But it would be irresponsible not to speculate. Amirite?
52.
eemom
if yer in need of some comedy relief, go check out George Will in today’s Kaplan shitpile talking about how critics of Sarah Palin are motivated by……wait for it……..
“snobbery.”
Yeah, a real man of the people, that George.
I honestly think this city is going to explode into one giant cosmic fart with all the bullshit that is packed in here today.
Believe it or not, there are several buildings taller than 7 stories in Austin. Heck, the capital is probably taller.
I hear tell the Texas capital is 200 stories tall and Paul Bunyan used it as a toothpick after he ate the Midgard Wurm.
56.
4tehlulz
@Common Sense: I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that someone raging about taxes would plow a plane into a building containing the IRS.
57.
GambitRF
“Obama is stupid for using a tele–tele… what’s that say? What the hell is a teleprimpter?”
58.
bemused
I was watching Thom Hartmann online. He always attends CPAC & interviews people there. He interviewed the baby wingnut Jonathan Krohn. This 14 yr old has the talk hyper fast, talk over, interrupt routine down pat.
I got distracted by TBogg’s coverage of some asshat covering CPAC who’s offering photographic proof of socialist books in the White House. Circumcision is out of the question, there is simply no end to these pricks.
Check out the comments to that post at the American Spectator.
70.
Catsy
Wait, some guy deliberately crashed four-seater into an IRS building?
That couldn’t possibly be a wingnut. They love the IRS.
It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
ETA: Yes, I know this is nutpicking, but I just made the mistake of glancing at the comments on the CNN article, and this was at the top:
This would have been admirable if not for the fact that the dude was probably crazy and he accomplished it during business hours. Violent acts against IRS facilities, NOT employees should be encouraged. And I despise Sarah Palin and the tea party movement…go figure.
71.
demo woman
@licensed to kill time: I’m not signed on to American Spectator but if I were I would comment that maybe the guy was on his way to the CPAC convention and got lost.
72.
Eastriver
Must I come over there and break your other arm to stop you from using your teevee remote in a self-destructive manner?
Apparently a St. Louis based conservative waved around a piece of paper at CPAC and said that they had “liberal addresses” and knew how to confront liberals at “their watering holes.” I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
75.
licensed to kill time
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: I have been – nice to see the whole world has not, in fact, gone mad.
If Obama hadn’t been smuggling cocaine through the Mena, Arkansas airport this guy would have never needed to attack the IRS.
78.
demo woman
I’m not watching CPAC. Has Kerik’s name been mentioned yet? He was an up and comer for awhile wasn’t he.
79.
Beeb
Thanks, JC, for letting me know. Now I can miss the CPAC coverage on purpose instead of accidentally.
80.
demo woman
Many years ago when I was living in TX, there were several wealthy folks snorting. I have it on good authority that it was the previous President that had the itchy nose.
Obviously. Clearly, the only thing we can do now is impeach Obama, as he is directly responsible.
83.
Comrade Luke
Why does CSPAN deem this worthy of coverage?
84.
soonergrunt
A lot of the comments over there at AmSpec are WIN, though.
Example:
Comment 1)
Are you fucking retarded?
Comment 2)
really, are you?
Comment 15)
Wow. Does the American Spectator PAY Jeff Lord for this drivel? Because they should totally ask for their money back.
Apparently a St. Louis based conservative waved around a piece of paper at CPAC and said that they had “liberal addresses” and knew how to confront liberals at “their watering holes.” I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Seriously? It’s not that I don’t believe they’d do something like that, it’s just…you know…it’s hard to tell spoof from actual wingnut these days.
86.
Waynski
@licensed to kill time — Just when you think the wingnuts can’t get any crazier, they up the ante in record time. I nominate that article for the dumbest thing yet written.
If the dumb (now dead) fucker had a Muslim name, it would be far different.
First OKC, now Austin.
Fucking Teabaggers.
92.
Evinfuilt
@Ash:
Well, didn’t a recent poll show that that a hefty majority of Republicans thought there taxes had been increased when it had been reduced.
We should thank Fox News for convincing people that Obama raised taxes and touting the IRS as a bunch of thugs out to rape and pillage. I mean, its not their fault people actually believe what they say and act on it.
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Like others I’m upset that this went instantly from a terrorist alert to “Opps he was white, so a disgruntled citizen.” Meanwhile @CPAC I’m sure they’re proud of their right-wing extremist attitudes and results.
Ahhh, so this yahoo hated the feds and the IRS and specifically targeted them, but nope, he was white as a lily and therefore not a terrorist.
Here’s a thought, though: Perhaps the wingnuts will say that this guy was a terrorist so that they can then say, “Obama hasn’t kept us safe from terrorism!”
They probably won’t, though.
94.
hal
CPAC just really demonstrates how disingenuous Republicans are. All this talk of taking the country in a new direction, but then you give Dick Cheney a fucking standing ovation, all the while hopping he runs for President.
I really hope Liberals/Progressives wake the fuck up and see what direction this country will be in if any of these saps ever make it to the Presidency.
95.
demo woman
@Common Sense: After reading the bullet points, GM, etc., it sounds like Glenn Beck just lost one of his viewers.
I kinda wondered if this was another clumsy attempt at “conservative humor”. If not, you just know it will be claimed as such tout suite when The Lord sees it went over like a lead balloon.
97.
4tehlulz
The only way to prevent future kamikaze attacks is to racially profile Arabs.
98.
curious
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: someone clue in mitt romney. he just NAILED al gore with that internet line at cpac.
99.
soonergrunt
@hal:
Good luck with that. Take a gander over at GOS and get a good luck at the flesh-feast going on. It seems Obama didn’t turn the Rocky Moutains into gumdrop piles and make the Mississippi river flow with chocolate in one year so there’s a faction over there wanting to skip 2010 and primary Obama in 2012.
The first commenter asks “are you fucking retarded? ”
So does that mean that American Spectator needs to apologize to Sarah Palin for hosting hate speach?
109.
JK
Plane crashes into building in Austin, Texas
1:47 p.m.: A message on a Web site registered to Joseph Andrew Stack appears to be a suicide note: “If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, ‘Why did this have to happen?'” the message says. “The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time.” In the long message, the writer rails against the government and, particularly, the Internal Revenue Service.
Jake Fratelli from The Goonies is on stage making a joke about ACORN workers being sent to Guantanamo. WTF am I watching?
111.
Sentient Puddle
Yeah, watching the Austin plane crash story. Seeing as, well, it’s down the street(ish) from me.
Oh, and I’ll one-up you guys with the nutpicking story (though the comment in question was deleted): I was following the story on the site of KXAN (local news). First comment pointed out that the address given was an FBI building (which was wrong, but not far off). Second commenter said “Too bad he didn’t hit the IRS instead.”
Yeah, oops.
112.
kid bitzer
@102–
they can have my four-seater cesna when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
113.
AkaDad
I’d rather have my prostate examined.
114.
JK
Austin American Statesman has the full note posted on its web site
I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
Maybe John’s watching so the headache CPAC induces will make him forget his shoulder.
Q: Are there many non-insane, Brit-Tory type conservatives in this country? Are they more endangered than the Whooping Crane?
116.
licensed to kill time
@MikeJ: Well, I am always gobsmacked at what conservatives think is funny, so it’s possible Lord considered this a “humor” piece. I just find it incredibly lame.
@joes527: Not if they claim “satire”, according to SarahRules, you betcha!
117.
bob h
Watching the Teabugger kamikaze mission in Austin. The only question is when we get an act so sick and appalling from these people that their movement starts to lose steam, as in ’95.
118.
Mike Kay
Another terrorist Teabagger
1) glenn beck teabagger terrorist kills 3 cops in Pittsburgh
2) Teabagger terrorist kills security guard at Holocaust Museum
3 Air Teabagger terrorist flys plane into building.
Why do they hate America?
119.
Common Sense
Comment of the AmSpec thread IMO:
Maddy| 2.18.10 @ 2:09PM
Seriously, I’ll bet you get lost just about every time you drive into work. Unfortunately, you appear to have made it in today.
120.
Don SinFalta
@MikeJ: I live in the area of Austin where this happened and drove past the scene about 15 minutes after it occurred. FWIW that building certainly is not tall by Austin standards, the current tallest building in town is a recently completed 57 story residential building downtown (the Austonian) that is reputed to be the tallest residential building west of the Mississippi (there are certainly many taller office buildings, but none of those is in Austin). I’m surprised the guy didn’t go for that, it’s significantly taller than anything else in town and a much more spectacular target than the building he did hit. He must have really hated the IRS.
@JK: The NYTimes article on teabaggers that Beck was ranting about on his show, pointed out the frustration that folks were having and the possibility of violence.
123.
Persia
@Common Sense: Holy shit. WTF do we call terrorism in this country, if not this?
…oh right, stuff done by brown dudes. Never mind.
124.
Brick Oven Bill
I have read the manifesto. The pilot rants against insurance companies, George Bush, the Catholic Church, the rich, managers at steel mills, Arthur Anderson, and Enron. He kind of sounds like… A Democrat.
Oh, and Tim McVeigh.
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Ehrm, I think you didn’t get the joke? Or you did and I’m missing the sarcasm.
Yeah, you’re missing the sarcasm.
One thing that I am enjoying in personal life is hearing from wingnut acquaintances about Obama raising their taxes even as they actually prepare their tax returns and get refunds.
The denial is just amazing.
I then explain to them that if they got a refund, they obviously are benefiting from a redistribution of income, must be Muslim commies and could not possibly be honest and true conservatives.
are you kidding, I’m sure he attended a palin book signing!
131.
Tsulagi
Anyone else watching the freak show on CSPAN?
That must be riveting.
Probably right up there with the gavel to gavel coverage on RedState. Taking a look, Moe has a video interview with an R-bagger candidate at CPAC. Usual pabulum, but given the camera angle Moe must be pretty short. That or he strategically has the camera mounted on his waist to get the interviewee to look that way. You know those RS boys, like Commander EE always dreaming of rough men at the ready.
Speaking of RSSF warriors at CPAC, bs reports “There are at least seven of us here so far, and more will float in and out during the day.” No doubt. Those guys stay pretty light in their tap shoes.
RSSF troop bs further chronicles a teabagger candidate’s bold approaches to turn the country around no one could have predicted…
• Reform the tax code, reduce tax rates across the board
• Eliminate double taxation – abolish capital gains, dividends, interest, death taxes
• Lower the corporate tax rate so it is competitive with the rest of the world
132.
Bender
Wacko Stacko’s manifesto:
The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.
…The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
Go back to making my pizza and don’t forget the pepperoni and sausages.
134.
Midnight Marauder
I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
I eagerly await Church Lady’s appearance to tell us all how this is entirely the fault of the liberal media and DougJ’s refusal to talk about that crazy lady in Birmingham.
135.
kid bitzer
@127–
nah. if b.o.b. had tried to hit the irs building in austin, we’d be talking about a plane crash in tijuana right now.
Re: “liberal watering holes”. This is probably a reference to the “Drinking Liberally” movement, where liberals around the country set up informal get-togethers at their local booze-dispensing establishment:
Wow, is this guy [Sullivan] self-absorbed or what?
Generally, yes. Specifically, not so much. Lots of people have celebrities, whether musicians or actors, or less frequently directors or authors, with whom they overidentify.
For late 60’s to early 70’s boho hippie chicks, it might be Joni Mitchell, for 80’s alternaboys, Paul Westerberg; for angry smart-asses, Elvis Costello, and so on.
For Andrew, it’s the Pet Shop Boys. A bit obvious maybe, but not really a reason to mock the guy. By which I mean: there are so many better reasons.
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142.
soonergrunt
@Mike Kay:
This is different, now. There are hundreds of people constantly stirring shit, making personal attacks, and all sorts crazyness.
If you don’t fit a very limited profile of the ideal liberal or progressive, they go after you, in some pretty vicious ways.
God knows I’m not Mr. Perfect. Anybody who’s read my work will know that I can be pretty acidic.
But right now there are two factions on the site–the people who support the President and the people who don’t, and a small group of others just trying to keep their heads down and post the incosequential stuff like pet diaries or gardening guides.
I think it’s a little early to be labeling this individual anything specific.
I just read his suicide note over at Crooks and Liars, and I would have to agree with you on this point. We’re going to find out that this was most likely a very complicated man with a unfortunate string of perpetual, crushing losses in his life.
Still doesn’t excuse what he did. And it doesn’t make it something less than terrorism.
Robert Davi doesn’t have enough talent as an actor for me to get bent out of shape over the fact that he’s a wingnut.
149.
Davis X. Machina
This is probably a reference to the “Drinking Liberally” movement, where liberals around the country set up informal get-togethers at their local booze-dispensing establishment:
Anyone remember DFH’s handing out listings of bars and restaurants opening up ‘Rush Rooms’ for people to drop in and get The Word at lunchtime back in ’92-’94? I remember the phenomenon, but I don’t remember any list-waving.
@Geoduck The thought definitely occurred to me. And I’m going to DL tonight, as luck would have it.
153.
catclub
Communist Creed and Capitalist Creed, but what about the
Apollo Creed? Huh, smart guy?
154.
FlipYrWhig
Thanks to JK’s link, I read the statement. It’s actually stylistically very well-written. And I find it kind of hard to pigeonhole ideologically. It’s a bit firebaggerish in its anti-corporate, all-politics-are-corrupt stances. But then the “I’m a brave and independent-minded engineer” sounds somewhat like that movie _Falling Down_ and more than a little like Rand.
Brachiator @ 123
They must be particularly slow if they fall for:
“I then explain to them that if they got a refund, they obviously are benefiting from a redistribution of income, must be Muslim commies and could not possibly be honest and true conservatives.”
Because the refund is simply their own money back and no re-distribution at all. Don’t tell em.
157.
FlipYrWhig
@catclub: Then there’s the Scott Stapp Creed, which is “Can you take me higher?”
Regardless of any evidence that could pigeonhole him as Tea Party supporter, the bottom line is that he was a murderous lunatic. I’m less concerned than others are with the issue of discovering his political allegiance.
163.
Waynski
The note read to me like he blames all of his problems on someone/something else. Sounded like pretty standard loser jibberish to me. He talks about liquidating his IRA and not knowing he had to pay taxes on it. That’s utter bullshit. I had to do that once when I was in a financial bind and the bank makes it perfectly and repeatedly clear to you that whatever you withdraw will be considered income within that year.
Brachiator @ 123
…
They must be particularly slow if they fall for: “I then explain to them that if they got a refund, they obviously are benefiting from a redistribution of income, must be Muslim commies and could not possibly be honest and true conservatives.”
…
Because the refund is simply their own money back and no re-distribution at all. Don’t tell em.
Not always true. If you get a refundable tax credit after your tax liability is zero, you are getting somebody else’s money, not just your own back.
And then there’s the wonderful world of NOLs, where you can go back five years and get some of everybody’s money.
But then again, I’m a tax professional. And as I always try to warn lay people, “Kids, don’t try tax analysis at home. You’ll only hurt yourselves.”
But then again, I’m a tax professional. And as I always try to warn lay people, “Kids, don’t try tax analysis at home. You’ll only hurt yourselves.”
Sounds like Joseph Stack should have followed your advice.
166.
lol
Looks like the guy was a tax protester/cheat who got busted for it.
He rails against government bailouts and tax deductions.
Finally, he decides to fly a planes in an IRS building.
Definitely a liberal.
167.
hal
So the key to killing innocent people while arousing Teaparty sympathy is to dress your murders in an aura of anti-tax sentiment.
I don’t fell sorry for this loser or anyone else who aims to take the lives of others because of their own misery. Kill yourself and be done with it. Leave everyone else alone.
168.
mai naem
Revealing to see Dick Cheney get a rock star welcome at CPAC. , I don’t think Al Gore would get a rock star welcome at a liberal conference and he’s a whole lot closer to being a real rock star than Dick Cheney will ever be.
Also Re:Middle Aged White Tax resister/Terrahrist Guy – It’s good news for John McCain.
169.
Mike in NC
Air Teabagger terrorist flys plane into building.
Cue the candlelight vigil at CPAC.
Who the hell is Robert Davi?
Extremely ugly actor in many violent Grade Z direct-to-DVD movies. Were Chuck Norris and Jon Voight unavailable?
170.
Corner Stone
@JK: I think you understand I was agreeing with you on him being an asshole?
I can’t tell.
RE: But then again, I’m a tax professional. And as I always try to warn lay people, “Kids, don’t try tax analysis at home. You’ll only hurt yourselves.”
Sounds like Joseph Stack should have followed your advice.
Here’s the thing. I deal more with tax preparers than individual taxpayers, and particularly in the past two years, my customers have talked about having to sit across from people who have lost their homes and watch them break into tears when they are told that they might have to pick up thousands of dollars as Cancellation of Debt income while the bankers walk away clean with their bonuses and bailouts.
But from reviewing hundreds of returns, I also see people taking in their kids, grandkids and nieces and nephews as dependents, getting two and three and four jobs and doing their best to carry on. A very few crumble under the load, and many knees buckle. But they don’t break. And they carry on.
172.
Remember November
CPAC Teabuggerers think irony is what the wimmunfolk who’re droppin’ chilluns should be doin’ to keep ‘Merika strong.
173.
maus
they really should just tear the two teleprompters on the stage down and burn them
How would they off the cuff “speak from the heart” without teleprompters?
174.
paul
I am always amazed when I run into websites like this…..the pea-brains abound. It would be a wonder to deal with fact rather than living in your fantasy worlds and striking out at things you don’t bother to try to understand. Connecting the lune that flew the plane into the building in Austin is an absurd attempt to diminish the momentum of the tea party members. It won’t happen.
Try dealing with FACTS rather than FEELINGS.
I wonder, when they find that the pilot had some kind of Muslim background and he did it for Jihad, will they want that promoted? I am sure another site has brought up that possibility but no one seems to want to address that, least of all this site.
turned it on long enough to hear Erick the Red say:
__
“…amateurs. They should leave national security to experts like VP Cheney.”
For that matter what the fuck does Erick the Red know about national security? Erick Erickson is a coward who would rather strip naked, grease himself up and then belly-crawl across the sticky floor of a gay bordello to suck Osama bin Laden’s cock than serve his country. And not only would Erick lube, crawl and suck, but he would do so enthusiastically.
I’d love to see the military set up a recruiting table at CPAC. That would be fun. Let’s see how many of these conservatives would actually be willing to join the military.
carlos the dwarf
You know, John, not all of us can be lazy cheetos-munching bloggers sitting around all day in our pajamas in our moms’ basements. Some of us have, you know, full time jobs, and pay taxes, and are Real Amurikins, not DFHs like you. Fuckin scumbag.
/teabagger
TR
Legalize
I prefer to watch YouTube clips of Nuremberg Rallies. The production values are better.
Jay in Oregon
Two words:
HELL
NO
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
I’ll bet this guy had absolutely no problem voting for George W. Bush.
No wonder the Republicans are so loaded with closet cases.
joeyess
I just bought a Visio “47. I’d like to keep it awhile.
Kryptik
I have enough high blood pressure for my age, John, I don’t need any more reason to spike it than the usual stupidity from the GOP side of things.
AhabTRuler
Nope. Watching the freakshow in the previous thread.
MikeJ
@Legalize: Riefenstahl had *fifty* cameras rolling. With film, none of this digital crap. You can’t put on a really great racial purity rally without spending some money, which is why CPAC will always be a joke.
Bubblegum Tate
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford:
Hahaha, Jason Mattera. He’s like Cheetohs cross-bred with fail.
Roger Moore
Sorry, John. I’m too busy paying attention to the plane crash in Austin that looks suspiciously like a poor attempt at a cross between Oklahoma City and 9/11.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@TR:
“Teleprompter” jokes are the new “Al Gore invented the internet.”
Bill H
Watching curling. The US men’s team is awesome until the kill shot. Down 4-0, comes back to lead 6-4, leading 6-5 with the hammer in the final end and blows a fairly routine draw to allow the tie. Then has a routine take-out for the win in the extra end and blows that.
Still a lot more fun that that “freak show on CSPAN.”
hal
So hung up on sexuality and race. Oh wait, sorry. There I go again, playing the race card. Nothing to see here.
Common Sense
@Roger Moore:
I swear to God the media here just drives me insane. This bobble head went from pimping a jihadist assault to some bizarre “it’s not a terrorist attack. Just a suicidal lone wolf” line when the terrorist turned out to be ‘Murican. They aer so blatant about saying It ain’t a terrorist attack if a white boy does it.
eemom
no, and permit me to direct a heartfelt FUCK YOU at C-Span for airing this drek.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@Roger Moore:
What makes you say that?
Oh.
dmsilev
I’d rather pound nails through my eardrums.
Besides, I’m at work and my coworkers would (justifiably) lynch me for inflicting stuff like that on them.
-dms
MikeJ
@Common Sense: Wasn’t the pants bomber a lone wolf too?
jrg
You mean the “Conservative Political Action Conference”?
Is Dick Cheney, “Conservative of the year” there, declaring “Deficits don’t matter”?
Are they extolling the virtues of democracy-building in the middle east, and our plans to pay for it using hair from the manes of magical ponies?
Has the coverage been interrupted yet by news flashes of the guy who just flew a plane into an IRS building in Texas?
Inquiring minds want to know!
gnomedad
pourmecoffee:
JoyceH
TPM is reporting that Dick Cheney made a ‘surprise appearance’ and got a delirious standing ovation for several minutes.
Just in case anyone doubts what conservatives really want.
pharniel
@Bill H:
Damnit, I thought they could pull it through.
ah well, at least I have the rest of the curling season to look forward too…
Ben
Turned it on in the middle of the Dick Armey remarks. It literally took him less than five seconds before he just outright lied (“Our health care is fabulous”-type lie).
Flipped over to PBS. “Nature” is on. It’s about wolves.
Much better.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
from CNN:
arguingwithsignposts
The question must be asked: why are all these pasty white men invading my Internet!?
Brachiator
Wasn’t even aware of it. And from the comments here, this is a good thing.
Mike Kay
Well, you know only black people use teleprompters. A white winger wouldn’t be caught dead with one
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Kovie64/CSPAN-080031-McCainPalinRally.jpg
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/C48862-32.jpg
cat48
No, I got my Obama-bashing from Morning Ho and the op-ed pages this a.m. Sorta on the ledge today about the way he is being treated by everyone lately. Just depressing. Cocaine and teleprompter jokes I can live without. Oh, weakling on terror, tax and spend speeches, also. Maybe I will read about the freaks later if I cheer up.
cat48
No, I got my Obama-bashing from Morning Ho and the op-ed pages this a.m. Sorta on the ledge today about the way he is being treated by everyone lately. Just depressing. Cocaine and teleprompter jokes I can live without. Oh, weakling on terror, tax and spend speeches, also. Maybe I will read about the freaks later if I cheer up.
Bulworth
@hal: Who said this?
Steeplejack
@Mike Kay:
Linkies no work. You fix.
ksmiami
John – I live in Miami, Florida which is about as freaky as you can get – I don’t need to watch a freak show on TV…
Nana-nana-foo-foo
Mike Kay
@Steeplejack:
just fixed!
scav
Not to go all anti-conspiracy theorist here but a quick google-earth also reveals that those black buildings seem to be about the tallest things to crash into around there, so if you’re a wack-job aiming for your 15 minute of fame, they are rather the obvious target. And it’s not like it’s Feds only building. Still, carry on, this is still the chaos low-information stage.
Just Some Fuckhead
Why don’t you blog about it while yer sitting around doing nothing?
arguingwithsignposts
mark tapscott talking about freedom and young people, and why conservatives will win – hahaha. And now Tucker Carlson. shoot. me. now.
Waynski
@John Cole — I assume it’s one of things you’ll watch so I don’t have to.
KDP
I turned it on long enough to hear Erick the Red say:
“…amateurs. They should leave national security to experts like VP Cheney.”
By what stretch of past professional endeavor or experience can Cheney be consider a national security expert?
He has never served in the military, and his sole connection is being an executive with Halliburton. Halliburton, CACI, Booz-Allen and others expanded their operations as a direct result of the outsourcing of national security jobs to the private sector. This may have reduced the number of government employees on the payroll, but it has NOT reduced costs. Many of these outsourced workers used to be government employees. They worked their 20, retired with their valuable security clearances, and then came back to do the same job, but as contract workers making 2-3 times more after the cut their new employer takes.
demo woman
@scav: I was watching online and local station was actually at the house fire and made the connection. Can’t remember his name but it was a common name and did not have Mohammed in front of the name.
MikeJ
@scav: Believe it or not, there are several buildings taller than 7 stories in Austin. Heck, the capital is probably taller.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
OT: Sorry, but I just clicked over to Sullivan and came across this:
Wow, is this guy self-absorbed or what?
scav
@demo woman: between what? The individual doing both things? I’m not arguing that, I’m just pointing out we know shit-all about motive at this point and that there are other things in the black buildings.
demo woman
@KDP: Don’t forget that Cheney probably watched 24.
arguingwithsignposts
I think I am now required to give $10 to whoever is running against Marco Rubio.
Davis X. Machina
“National security” in the sense of “killing brown people who either worship the wrong God, or sit on top of an oil field, or both, without let or hindrance, on the flimsiest of ginned-up evidence, or without any evidence at all, to get rich and win elections”
That kind of national security?
scav
Locally taller buildings? That’s why I went to google-earth. The guys in the air and decides at some point to go down: he examines local opportunities. We don’t know motive yet. If he had a specific motive that we don’t know yet, they yes, he may have aimed at that specific building but there are other things in that building.
Osprey
@Ben:
Yeah Until Caribou Barbie comes by and shoots one from her helicopter.
Common Sense
The pilot wrote a manifesto before he burned down his home and stole a plane. Surprise surprise — He was a right wing nut job:
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“We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.
While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.”
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@MikeJ:
There’s a law in Austin that the Capitol has to be seen from a certain number of vantage points around the city, which prevents tall skyscrapers. The biggest in downtown is 40 stories or so. This happened well North of Downtown, however.
4tehlulz
This plane incident wouldn’t have happened if Obama didn’t raise our taxes.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@scav:
But it would be irresponsible not to speculate. Amirite?
eemom
if yer in need of some comedy relief, go check out George Will in today’s Kaplan shitpile talking about how critics of Sarah Palin are motivated by……wait for it……..
“snobbery.”
Yeah, a real man of the people, that George.
I honestly think this city is going to explode into one giant cosmic fart with all the bullshit that is packed in here today.
scav
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: exactly! :)
SenyorDave
The John Birch Society was one of the sponsors of CPAC. that says it all.
Chyron HR
@MikeJ:
I hear tell the Texas capital is 200 stories tall and Paul Bunyan used it as a toothpick after he ate the Midgard Wurm.
4tehlulz
@Common Sense: I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that someone raging about taxes would plow a plane into a building containing the IRS.
GambitRF
“Obama is stupid for using a tele–tele… what’s that say? What the hell is a teleprimpter?”
bemused
I was watching Thom Hartmann online. He always attends CPAC & interviews people there. He interviewed the baby wingnut Jonathan Krohn. This 14 yr old has the talk hyper fast, talk over, interrupt routine down pat.
soonergrunt
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: Yes. SATSQ.
PTirebiter
I got distracted by TBogg’s coverage of some asshat covering CPAC who’s offering photographic proof of socialist books in the White House. Circumcision is out of the question, there is simply no end to these pricks.
licensed to kill time
OMG. I just googled the austin plane crash and saw this:
Austin Plane Crash: Is It Obama’s Fault?
link from American Spectator; you have been forewarned.
ETA: The first commenter asks “are you fucking retarded? ”
ha.
MikeJ
From d00d’s manifesto:
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
Joe Stack (1956-2010)
02/18/2010
Much of his rant is about the IRS.
Jason Bylinowski
I’m seriously glad that I don’t have cable, so I can’t be tempted to watch this crap. My blood pressure is just too important.
OT, for an example of really creative video editing, see here:
http://www.barelypolitical.com/post/16183/impressive-bush-clinton-edit
There’s some dutch spoken at the beginning, but the funny stuff is in English.
4tehlulz
@licensed to kill time: The comments are lolworthy, though.
soonergrunt
@licensed to kill time: Didn’t take them long, did it?
I have a hang-nail that’s been driving me crazy…
cat48
Busy guy today he was–domestic disturbance involving police; set house on fire; flew plane into building
Sapheriel
@KDP: because he was secretary of defense for GHWB? although back then he still understood that getting rid of saddam wasn’t worth it.
licensed to kill time
@4tehlulz: @soonergrunt:
I thought I was hallucinating when I first saw it. Sadly, no.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@licensed to kill time:
Check out the comments to that post at the American Spectator.
Catsy
Wait, some guy deliberately crashed four-seater into an IRS building?
That couldn’t possibly be a wingnut. They love the IRS.
It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
ETA: Yes, I know this is nutpicking, but I just made the mistake of glancing at the comments on the CNN article, and this was at the top:
demo woman
@licensed to kill time: I’m not signed on to American Spectator but if I were I would comment that maybe the guy was on his way to the CPAC convention and got lost.
Eastriver
Must I come over there and break your other arm to stop you from using your teevee remote in a self-destructive manner?
JK
Tea Party Speaker: Hang Patty Murray
h/t http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/17/idaho-tea-party-speaker-h_n_466261.html
Clark
Apparently a St. Louis based conservative waved around a piece of paper at CPAC and said that they had “liberal addresses” and knew how to confront liberals at “their watering holes.” I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
licensed to kill time
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: I have been – nice to see the whole world has not, in fact, gone mad.
demo woman
@eemom: George Will is condescending.
MikeJ
If Obama hadn’t been smuggling cocaine through the Mena, Arkansas airport this guy would have never needed to attack the IRS.
demo woman
I’m not watching CPAC. Has Kerik’s name been mentioned yet? He was an up and comer for awhile wasn’t he.
Beeb
Thanks, JC, for letting me know. Now I can miss the CPAC coverage on purpose instead of accidentally.
demo woman
Many years ago when I was living in TX, there were several wealthy folks snorting. I have it on good authority that it was the previous President that had the itchy nose.
licensed to kill time
@demo woman:
Funny! Imma going to monitor the comments and let them finish slaying the Lord, but I refuse to sign up there.
Bubblegum Tate
@4tehlulz:
Obviously. Clearly, the only thing we can do now is impeach Obama, as he is directly responsible.
Comrade Luke
Why does CSPAN deem this worthy of coverage?
soonergrunt
A lot of the comments over there at AmSpec are WIN, though.
Example:
Comment 1)
Are you fucking retarded?
Comment 2)
really, are you?
Comment 15)
Wow. Does the American Spectator PAY Jeff Lord for this drivel? Because they should totally ask for their money back.
Bubblegum Tate
@Clark:
Seriously? It’s not that I don’t believe they’d do something like that, it’s just…you know…it’s hard to tell spoof from actual wingnut these days.
Waynski
@licensed to kill time — Just when you think the wingnuts can’t get any crazier, they up the ante in record time. I nominate that article for the dumbest thing yet written.
KDP
@Sapheriel: OK, I’d forgotten that. Thx
Ash
Ahhh, so this yahoo hated the feds and the IRS and specifically targeted them, but nope, he was white as a lily and therefore not a terrorist.
Brachiator
@4tehlulz:
Wait a minute. Obama raised our taxes? When did that happen?
Ash
@Brachiator: Ehrm, I think you didn’t get the joke? Or you did and I’m missing the sarcasm.
The Dangerman
@Ash:
If the dumb (now dead) fucker had a Muslim name, it would be far different.
First OKC, now Austin.
Fucking Teabaggers.
Evinfuilt
@Ash:
Well, didn’t a recent poll show that that a hefty majority of Republicans thought there taxes had been increased when it had been reduced.
We should thank Fox News for convincing people that Obama raised taxes and touting the IRS as a bunch of thugs out to rape and pillage. I mean, its not their fault people actually believe what they say and act on it.
—-
Like others I’m upset that this went instantly from a terrorist alert to “Opps he was white, so a disgruntled citizen.” Meanwhile @CPAC I’m sure they’re proud of their right-wing extremist attitudes and results.
Bubblegum Tate
@Ash:
Here’s a thought, though: Perhaps the wingnuts will say that this guy was a terrorist so that they can then say, “Obama hasn’t kept us safe from terrorism!”
They probably won’t, though.
hal
CPAC just really demonstrates how disingenuous Republicans are. All this talk of taking the country in a new direction, but then you give Dick Cheney a fucking standing ovation, all the while hopping he runs for President.
I really hope Liberals/Progressives wake the fuck up and see what direction this country will be in if any of these saps ever make it to the Presidency.
demo woman
@Common Sense: After reading the bullet points, GM, etc., it sounds like Glenn Beck just lost one of his viewers.
licensed to kill time
@Waynski:
I kinda wondered if this was another clumsy attempt at “conservative humor”. If not, you just know it will be claimed as such tout suite when The Lord sees it went over like a lead balloon.
4tehlulz
The only way to prevent future kamikaze attacks is to racially profile Arabs.
curious
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: someone clue in mitt romney. he just NAILED al gore with that internet line at cpac.
soonergrunt
@hal:
Good luck with that. Take a gander over at GOS and get a good luck at the flesh-feast going on. It seems Obama didn’t turn the Rocky Moutains into gumdrop piles and make the Mississippi river flow with chocolate in one year so there’s a faction over there wanting to skip 2010 and primary Obama in 2012.
MikeJ
@licensed to kill time: It would be easier to believe it was humour if they didn’t say things just as stupid on a regular basis.
daryljfontaine
@cat48: Shit, that guy’s an overachiever compared to me today.
D
cat48
@licensed to kill time:
He did mention GWBush in his manifesto, but not Obama. Mostly the IRS.
Martin
@Brachiator: In teabagger/wingnut spacetime.
Davis X. Machina
Over-under on ‘It was an inside job.
ObamaRahm needs a Reichstag fire to start the Great Repression. Watch your guns, they’re comin’ for them!’Hours? Minutes? Am I already too late.
Beeb
So was Stack supporting Perry or was he for Medina? Inquiring minds want to know.
soonergrunt
@Davis X. Machina: even money you’re late, dude.
Mike Kay
@soonergrunt:
yeah, but soonergrunt that faction has been posting virtually the same diary since Obama won the nomination in June 2008.
PUMAs and sore losers come in all shapes and sizes.
I mean, I remember a small but VOCAL sect of Edwards support3rs saying they wouldn’t support obama under any circumstances back in feb of 2008.
joes527
@licensed to kill time:
So does that mean that American Spectator needs to apologize to Sarah Palin for hosting hate speach?
JK
Plane crashes into building in Austin, Texas
h/t http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/18/texas.plane.crash/index.html?hpt=T1
Morgan
Jake Fratelli from The Goonies is on stage making a joke about ACORN workers being sent to Guantanamo. WTF am I watching?
Sentient Puddle
Yeah, watching the Austin plane crash story. Seeing as, well, it’s down the street(ish) from me.
Oh, and I’ll one-up you guys with the nutpicking story (though the comment in question was deleted): I was following the story on the site of KXAN (local news). First comment pointed out that the address given was an FBI building (which was wrong, but not far off). Second commenter said “Too bad he didn’t hit the IRS instead.”
Yeah, oops.
kid bitzer
@102–
they can have my four-seater cesna when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
AkaDad
I’d rather have my prostate examined.
JK
Austin American Statesman has the full note posted on its web site
h/t http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/02/18/internet_note_posted_by_man_li.html?cxntcid=breaking_news
p.a.
Maybe John’s watching so the headache CPAC induces will make him forget his shoulder.
Q: Are there many non-insane, Brit-Tory type conservatives in this country? Are they more endangered than the Whooping Crane?
licensed to kill time
@MikeJ: Well, I am always gobsmacked at what conservatives think is funny, so it’s possible Lord considered this a “humor” piece. I just find it incredibly lame.
@joes527: Not if they claim “satire”, according to SarahRules, you betcha!
bob h
Watching the Teabugger kamikaze mission in Austin. The only question is when we get an act so sick and appalling from these people that their movement starts to lose steam, as in ’95.
Mike Kay
Another terrorist Teabagger
1) glenn beck teabagger terrorist kills 3 cops in Pittsburgh
2) Teabagger terrorist kills security guard at Holocaust Museum
3 Air Teabagger terrorist flys plane into building.
Why do they hate America?
Common Sense
Comment of the AmSpec thread IMO:
Don SinFalta
@MikeJ: I live in the area of Austin where this happened and drove past the scene about 15 minutes after it occurred. FWIW that building certainly is not tall by Austin standards, the current tallest building in town is a recently completed 57 story residential building downtown (the Austonian) that is reputed to be the tallest residential building west of the Mississippi (there are certainly many taller office buildings, but none of those is in Austin). I’m surprised the guy didn’t go for that, it’s significantly taller than anything else in town and a much more spectacular target than the building he did hit. He must have really hated the IRS.
Mike Kay
@kid bitzer: Comment of the day!
demo woman
@JK: The NYTimes article on teabaggers that Beck was ranting about on his show, pointed out the frustration that folks were having and the possibility of violence.
Persia
@Common Sense: Holy shit. WTF do we call terrorism in this country, if not this?
…oh right, stuff done by brown dudes. Never mind.
Brick Oven Bill
I have read the manifesto. The pilot rants against insurance companies, George Bush, the Catholic Church, the rich, managers at steel mills, Arthur Anderson, and Enron. He kind of sounds like… A Democrat.
Oh, and Tim McVeigh.
Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh.
Brachiator
@Ash:
Yeah, you’re missing the sarcasm.
One thing that I am enjoying in personal life is hearing from wingnut acquaintances about Obama raising their taxes even as they actually prepare their tax returns and get refunds.
The denial is just amazing.
I then explain to them that if they got a refund, they obviously are benefiting from a redistribution of income, must be Muslim commies and could not possibly be honest and true conservatives.
Star Trek logic wins every time.
Scott
Anyone placing bets on whether Joseph Andrew Stack attended tea parties? Or CPAC conferences?
Da Bomb
@licensed to kill time: That is some of the most vapid, inane, iq lowering crap that I have ever read in my life.
There are brain cells and common sense that I have lost reading that trite shit.
AxelFoley
@demo woman:
Are you kidding? Cheney’s probably the executive producer of 24.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@Brick Oven Bill:
Actually, he sounded a lot like Brick Oven Bill.
Mike Kay
@Scott:
are you kidding, I’m sure he attended a palin book signing!
Tsulagi
That must be riveting.
Probably right up there with the gavel to gavel coverage on RedState. Taking a look, Moe has a video interview with an R-bagger candidate at CPAC. Usual pabulum, but given the camera angle Moe must be pretty short. That or he strategically has the camera mounted on his waist to get the interviewee to look that way. You know those RS boys, like Commander EE always dreaming of rough men at the ready.
Speaking of RSSF warriors at CPAC, bs reports “There are at least seven of us here so far, and more will float in and out during the day.” No doubt. Those guys stay pretty light in their tap shoes.
RSSF troop bs further chronicles a teabagger candidate’s bold approaches to turn the country around no one could have predicted…
Bender
Wacko Stacko’s manifesto:
Sounds like a Ball Juicer to me!
“Ball Juicer Terrorism: Is Tunch to Blame?”
JK
@Brick Oven Bill:
Go back to making my pizza and don’t forget the pepperoni and sausages.
Midnight Marauder
I eagerly await Church Lady’s appearance to tell us all how this is entirely the fault of the liberal media and DougJ’s refusal to talk about that crazy lady in Birmingham.
kid bitzer
@127–
nah. if b.o.b. had tried to hit the irs building in austin, we’d be talking about a plane crash in tijuana right now.
JK
@demo woman:
Glenn Beck is a malignant media carcinogen as well as a raving, drooling, nail biting, bed wetting idiot.
Corner Stone
I think it’s a little early to be labeling this individual anything specific.
Ann B. Nonymous
@Midnight Marauder: Church Lady is too busy worshiping Satan to comment immediately.
JK
@Brachiator:
Missed seeing your posts. Live long and prosper, make it so, and engage.
Geoduck
Re: “liberal watering holes”. This is probably a reference to the “Drinking Liberally” movement, where liberals around the country set up informal get-togethers at their local booze-dispensing establishment:
http://livingliberally.org/drinking/
JGabriel
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford:
Generally, yes. Specifically, not so much. Lots of people have celebrities, whether musicians or actors, or less frequently directors or authors, with whom they overidentify.
For late 60’s to early 70’s boho hippie chicks, it might be Joni Mitchell, for 80’s alternaboys, Paul Westerberg; for angry smart-asses, Elvis Costello, and so on.
For Andrew, it’s the Pet Shop Boys. A bit obvious maybe, but not really a reason to mock the guy. By which I mean: there are so many better reasons.
.
soonergrunt
@Mike Kay:
This is different, now. There are hundreds of people constantly stirring shit, making personal attacks, and all sorts crazyness.
If you don’t fit a very limited profile of the ideal liberal or progressive, they go after you, in some pretty vicious ways.
God knows I’m not Mr. Perfect. Anybody who’s read my work will know that I can be pretty acidic.
But right now there are two factions on the site–the people who support the President and the people who don’t, and a small group of others just trying to keep their heads down and post the incosequential stuff like pet diaries or gardening guides.
JK
@Corner Stone:
He can be labelled an asshole
Midnight Marauder
@Corner Stone:
I just read his suicide note over at Crooks and Liars, and I would have to agree with you on this point. We’re going to find out that this was most likely a very complicated man with a unfortunate string of perpetual, crushing losses in his life.
Still doesn’t excuse what he did. And it doesn’t make it something less than terrorism.
Michael D.
Everytime I listen to them speak, I lament the education system in this country.
soonergrunt
@Morgan: Robert Davi is a winger? Wow. You learn something new every day. Not that I give a shit.
MH
@scav: Uh not even close. They’re seven stories tall. We have real skyscrapers, albeit downtown (another 8-10 miles south).
I’m from Austin. Crash happened less than a mile away. I am not terrorized in the slightest.
JK
@soonergrunt:
Robert Davi doesn’t have enough talent as an actor for me to get bent out of shape over the fact that he’s a wingnut.
Davis X. Machina
Anyone remember DFH’s handing out listings of bars and restaurants opening up ‘Rush Rooms’ for people to drop in and get The Word at lunchtime back in ’92-’94? I remember the phenomenon, but I don’t remember any list-waving.
Da Bomb
@soonergrunt: Who the hell is Robert Davi?
Victoria Jackson’s wingnut cousin?
asdf
Any word on casualties in Austin?
Clark
@Geoduck The thought definitely occurred to me. And I’m going to DL tonight, as luck would have it.
catclub
Communist Creed and Capitalist Creed, but what about the
Apollo Creed? Huh, smart guy?
FlipYrWhig
Thanks to JK’s link, I read the statement. It’s actually stylistically very well-written. And I find it kind of hard to pigeonhole ideologically. It’s a bit firebaggerish in its anti-corporate, all-politics-are-corrupt stances. But then the “I’m a brave and independent-minded engineer” sounds somewhat like that movie _Falling Down_ and more than a little like Rand.
JK
@catclub:
Catclub,
Remember Eye of the Tiger
catclub
Brachiator @ 123
They must be particularly slow if they fall for:
“I then explain to them that if they got a refund, they obviously are benefiting from a redistribution of income, must be Muslim commies and could not possibly be honest and true conservatives.”
Because the refund is simply their own money back and no re-distribution at all. Don’t tell em.
FlipYrWhig
@catclub: Then there’s the Scott Stapp Creed, which is “Can you take me higher?”
Sentient Puddle
@FlipYrWhig: Don’t forget the Creed Bratton of The Office.
Corner Stone
@JK:
I stand corrected. It’s a little early to be labelling him *some* specific things.
Corner Stone
@Midnight Marauder:
IMO, we’re going to find out this was a person who made incredibly poor choices throughout his life and failed to learn very much from any of them.
JK
@Corner Stone:
Whether he was motivated by a specific ideology or not, I’m just grateful that this asshole is no longer with us.
JK
@Corner Stone:
Regardless of any evidence that could pigeonhole him as Tea Party supporter, the bottom line is that he was a murderous lunatic. I’m less concerned than others are with the issue of discovering his political allegiance.
Waynski
The note read to me like he blames all of his problems on someone/something else. Sounded like pretty standard loser jibberish to me. He talks about liquidating his IRA and not knowing he had to pay taxes on it. That’s utter bullshit. I had to do that once when I was in a financial bind and the bank makes it perfectly and repeatedly clear to you that whatever you withdraw will be considered income within that year.
Brachiator
@catclub:
Not always true. If you get a refundable tax credit after your tax liability is zero, you are getting somebody else’s money, not just your own back.
And then there’s the wonderful world of NOLs, where you can go back five years and get some of everybody’s money.
But then again, I’m a tax professional. And as I always try to warn lay people, “Kids, don’t try tax analysis at home. You’ll only hurt yourselves.”
licensed to kill time
@Brachiator:
Sounds like Joseph Stack should have followed your advice.
lol
Looks like the guy was a tax protester/cheat who got busted for it.
He rails against government bailouts and tax deductions.
Finally, he decides to fly a planes in an IRS building.
Definitely a liberal.
hal
So the key to killing innocent people while arousing Teaparty sympathy is to dress your murders in an aura of anti-tax sentiment.
I don’t fell sorry for this loser or anyone else who aims to take the lives of others because of their own misery. Kill yourself and be done with it. Leave everyone else alone.
mai naem
Revealing to see Dick Cheney get a rock star welcome at CPAC. , I don’t think Al Gore would get a rock star welcome at a liberal conference and he’s a whole lot closer to being a real rock star than Dick Cheney will ever be.
Also Re:Middle Aged White Tax resister/Terrahrist Guy – It’s good news for John McCain.
Mike in NC
Cue the candlelight vigil at CPAC.
Extremely ugly actor in many violent Grade Z direct-to-DVD movies. Were Chuck Norris and Jon Voight unavailable?
Corner Stone
@JK: I think you understand I was agreeing with you on him being an asshole?
I can’t tell.
Brachiator
@licensed to kill time:
RE: But then again, I’m a tax professional. And as I always try to warn lay people, “Kids, don’t try tax analysis at home. You’ll only hurt yourselves.”
Here’s the thing. I deal more with tax preparers than individual taxpayers, and particularly in the past two years, my customers have talked about having to sit across from people who have lost their homes and watch them break into tears when they are told that they might have to pick up thousands of dollars as Cancellation of Debt income while the bankers walk away clean with their bonuses and bailouts.
But from reviewing hundreds of returns, I also see people taking in their kids, grandkids and nieces and nephews as dependents, getting two and three and four jobs and doing their best to carry on. A very few crumble under the load, and many knees buckle. But they don’t break. And they carry on.
Remember November
CPAC Teabuggerers think irony is what the wimmunfolk who’re droppin’ chilluns should be doin’ to keep ‘Merika strong.
maus
How would they off the cuff “speak from the heart” without teleprompters?
paul
I am always amazed when I run into websites like this…..the pea-brains abound. It would be a wonder to deal with fact rather than living in your fantasy worlds and striking out at things you don’t bother to try to understand. Connecting the lune that flew the plane into the building in Austin is an absurd attempt to diminish the momentum of the tea party members. It won’t happen.
Try dealing with FACTS rather than FEELINGS.
I wonder, when they find that the pilot had some kind of Muslim background and he did it for Jihad, will they want that promoted? I am sure another site has brought up that possibility but no one seems to want to address that, least of all this site.
Wile E. Quixote
@KDP:
For that matter what the fuck does Erick the Red know about national security? Erick Erickson is a coward who would rather strip naked, grease himself up and then belly-crawl across the sticky floor of a gay bordello to suck Osama bin Laden’s cock than serve his country. And not only would Erick lube, crawl and suck, but he would do so enthusiastically.
I’d love to see the military set up a recruiting table at CPAC. That would be fun. Let’s see how many of these conservatives would actually be willing to join the military.
Wile E. Quixote
@JGabriel:
Hey! The Pet Shop Boys are awesome. They were awesome in the 80’s and they’re still awesome today. Don’t be dissing the Pet Shop Boys!