Afternoon Open Thread

Rehab was fun because it was the first sign I may be moving in the right direction. No infections, sutures are still in place, and I got some new bandages. They were surprised to hear I am running the ice machine 24/7- apparently most people do not like it that much, but happy I am as it will apparently help the healing.

Funny thing, it was me and three middle-aged women- two with shoulder injuries and one with a hip injury. All three shoulder injuries involved dogs and ice, but the hip injury was caused when the woman was tripped down the stairs by her cat.

Obvious moral- dogs will hurt you, but cats kill.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    Obvious moral- dogs will hurt you, but cats kill

    Don’t give Tunch ideas, you know he reads this blog, right? My cats are always on the stairs weaving through my feet, when I try to go downstairs. I wonder what they are planning.

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    Kryptik says:

    At least we know who to blame when/if you break your hip, John.

    Well, if Tunch doesn’t take over well before that, anyways

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    chopper says:

    but if tunch kills you, how will he eat? oh crap, don’t answer that.

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    Ruckus says:

    It sounds like you are on the road to recovery. My experience with these kind of injuries is the docs know what they are doing and when I just followed the plan I got better faster. But you probably know that from your history.

    I like cats, I like dogs but I think you are right about the cats and what they are capable of. So I got Bud

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    Trinity says:

    Obvious moral- dogs will hurt you, but cats kill.

    Only if you forget who the real owner is.

    Cats don’t mess around.

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    beltane says:

    I am going to defend cats here. Last week my husband, four-year old son and I took a walk through the snow in the woods behind our house. Our obese alpha-male cat accompanied us the entire way all on his own volition. And when my son fell in the snow and threw a tantrum, Jaybee loyally sat with him until he decided to get up and keep walking. Off leash, our Lab would have gotten bored and run off down the road to smell the neighbor’s Chihuahua’s ass.

    My dog is now giving me dirty looks.

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    Paul in KY says:

    John, I would make nicey nice with Tunch, seriously.

    With this cold weather, your carcass would keep for quite awhile.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    I had a human but I eated him.

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    fraught says:

    Yes this is true. And they will calmly groom themselves as you take your last groaning breaths. I have three and I never fool myself that any of them would feel the slightest urge to dial 911.

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    Svensker says:

    Moral of the story seems to me is to stay away from pets. But I’m grumpy.

    Glad things are progressing nicely at this early stage, Mr. Cole. Keep up the good work.

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    Woodbuster says:

    Glad to hear thing went well, Master Cole.

    Now, if there is anybody here who did not see and hear every fucking word of Obama’s appearance in front of the Republican House members, you need to watch NOW. I mean, he took those idiots to the woodshed and had them thanking him for the spanking!


    MUST SEE TEE VEE!!!! w00t!!

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    Sue says:

    “but cats kill”
    … AFTER they’ve tormented you for awhile. Don’t forget that part.

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    General Winfield Stuck says:

    Obvious moral- dogs will hurt you, but cats kill.

    Alternate moral — maybe klutzes should get goldfish.

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    South of I-10 says:

    I have the flu, and it sucks.

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    beltane says:

    @Woodbuster: Imagine Bush or Cheney fielding questions from the House progressive caucus. I can’t imagine it but maybe someone else can.

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    beltane says:

    Glad John’s shoulder is healing nicely. He needs that arm for some hippie punching.

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    SGEW says:

    No infections, sutures are still in place . . .

    This is pretty excellent news, really. Glad to hear that the PT is going smoothly at start, but I have to ask: have you looked into OT (occupational therapy)? Or is your “PT” basically “OT”?

    OT (depending on the therapist, natch) is the best thing you can do for a full recovery (disclaimer: I have very good friends who are OTs, so I may be biased).

    Also, of course: Kitten thinks of nothing but murder all day.

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    JohnR says:

    @South of I-10:

    It could be worse – you could have the flu _and_ a cat.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    Darth Cheney to a random Democrat:
    ” I find your lack of faith disturbing”.

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    Mark S. says:


    I can’t imagine them fielding any questions not from Fox News or Politico.

    They are certainly not having to answer questions like Tony Blair is.

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    Eric S. says:

    When my brother had his shoulder surgery (reattaching ligaments) he used the shoulder ice sling as much as he possibly could. He was of the same opinion as you, JC, the greatest thing he’d ever seen.

    Unfortunately, they didn’t offer me that kind of contraption for my ankle. Maybe it doesn’t exist. I was stuck with ice bags.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @JohnR: Actually my kittehs are extra affectionate, when I am under the weather.

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    Charity says:

    Saw your earlier post. My mom is recovering from knee replacement surgery in December, and she hated the painkillers too. Those plus being totally inactive gave her terrible insomnia.

    Sounds like you’re making great progress! Continued good luck!

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    Midnight Marauder says:

    I posted this in the last thread, but it obviously belongs in this here Open Thread:

    This is quite possibly one of the greatest videos ever made. It’s the official UAF Hockey Open from the 2009-2010 season for the Alaska Nanooks, a college hockey team. All I will tell you is that you will never see a more irrationally violent and psychopathic polar bear for the rest of your days.

    You will most definitely thank me later.

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    ellie says:

    Shhhh. My cat is sitting on my lap as I type this, no doubt dreaming of ways to cut off my air supply while I sleep.

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    General Winfield Stuck says:

    @Max: Thanks Max!!

    the bokeh on those photos is stunning. Loves the Hummingbirds, the first one should return here in late March. Always, a male Black Chinned I named Walter couple of years ago. Not sure if it’s the same one, but it doesn’t matter. :-)

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    Notorious P.A.T. says:

    Malcolm Gladwell had a very interesting article in The New Yorker about entrepreneurs.

    Malcolm Gladwell’s interesting article in The New Yorker about entrepreneurs

    This is a terrific magazine. If you have some spare income to throw around, I highly recommend a subscription.

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    @schrodinger’s cat: Agreed. My kittehs are extra-snuggly when I’m under the weather. Most probably because I’m usually flopped on the couch groaning. As I said in an earlier thread, the only time I suspect they are trying to kill me is when they jump from the arm of the couch onto the pillow on my face. Raven will then walk down my neck, my chest, and my stomach to reach my thighs. Shadow, on the other hand, will SIT on the pillow and groom himself as I am frantically thinking, “I can’t breathe!”

    Cole, I am glad that rehab is going well for you. Keep at it faithfully, you hear?

    And, of course, TUUUUUUUUUUNCH!

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    Notorious P.A.T. says:

    @Midnight Marauder:

    I meant to say this in the last thread, but that’s awesome ) Except when they blew up Michigan State :P

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    South of I-10 says:

    @JohnR: I have two cats on me as I type. Luckily, they are well fed.

    @Max: I have been watching a Project Runway marathon all day. I think it is the first season?

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    Molly says:

    Cats like to play with their food. A good incapacitating accident would keep my cat satisfied for hours before it consumed me.

    Dogs? Mine would consider incapacitation a great opportunity to lick me to death.

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    Max says:

    @South of I-10: It’s so good! The shows on Bravo were better than the new ones on Lifetime.

    I missed the PR thread last night but I could not be happier that Ping went bye bye. Sorry if I spoiled it for anyone.

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    The Main Gauche of Mild Reason says:

    Obama mauls the Republicans at the House GOP retreat:;end=5202

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    Brick Oven Bill says:

    Bowlers can be assholes.

    As previously disclosed, my first scores were 100, 106, and 113. Then yesterday, I was hitting in the 130s. Then came the tournament. The competing team consisted of an older guy, two females, and a large tattooed Germanic guy with a tee-shirt displaying a cow standing over its after-birth. I never figured that one out, but he was a very good bowler.

    We have previously discussed the evolutionary influence of gunpowder and metal with respect to directing energy with Talent, so his bowling performance was Logical to me.

    So anyway, my first ball was a strike so perhaps this opposing team thought I was an experienced bowler. Of course, those expectations were unable to be upheld because of inexperience, and perhaps lack of Talent on my part.

    This guy was making snide remarks regarding my bowling, and this makes him an asshole. But I think our team won after my handicap was established (this was my first tournament ever, and I now have a bowling league card).


    But this is not as bad as biting off fingers. So we will now rank demographics in terms of decreasing levels of assholeness.

    Number One: Finger-biter-offers (Democrats)
    Number Two: Bowlers
    Number Three: Teabaggers

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    Earmarks. Aren’t they less than 10 percent of the budget?

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    jeffreyw says:

    I’m pretty scratched up myself today. Thought I would never get that eyeliner applied.

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    Da Bomb says:

    @Woodbuster: Did you mean this video on C-SPAN?

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    Notorious P.A.T. says:


    Even less if I remember right.

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    @The Main Gauche of Mild Reason: I’m watching the response to the deeply-stupid Mike Pence, and I am already getting turned on by the prez. Is that wrong of me? Argh! The vid froze again. They are teasing me!

    @jeffreyw: Doll-baby! She’s stunning.

    @RedKitten: Good. As it should be.

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    CaseyL says:

    About time you had some good news, and a good day!

    Very glad to hear PT is going well. Got a giggle thinking there’s a local mini-epidemic of dog-walking ice-slipping related injuries, which is really unkind of me but I can’t help it.

    You *are* getting booties for Lily, right? So you won’t need to pick her up off the icy street again, right? …. come to think, some anti-skid booties for you wouldn’t be a bad idea.

    The stairs in my house are painted concrete slabs (a la “floating staircase”) which is slippery enough as is; and then there are my kitties, who like to sprawl on said steps. At night. In the dark. Waiting for me to come downstairs and trip over them and go smash against concrete. So, yes, I do fear for my life.

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    Pasquinade says:

    Tweets from PRWire on Obama vs repubs

    RT @RussertXM_NBC: GOP aides telling me it was a mistake to allow cameras into Obama’s QA with GOP members.

    RT @peterdaou: How strategically inept of Republicans to put themselves in a position where Obama can school them on live TV

    RT @markknoller: CNN and MSNBC stuck with Obama’s entire appearance before House GOP Caucus. FOX cut out early.

    RT @marcambinder: How effective is this for POTUS: Fox News Channel just cut away from it.

    h/t to Daily Kos for PR tip

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    Ash Can says:

    @Midnight Marauder: Methinks those folks up in Fairbanks need to switch to decaf.

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    The Main Gauche of Mild Reason says:


    I liked Matt Yglesias’s comment. It cracks me up how he cannot stop bringing up how stupid Mike Pence is.

    “I debated policy with Mike Pence once and the guy is a stone-cold idiot. That was a years ago and I’ve been surprised since then to learn that conservatives consider him an unusually sharp policy mind and I take leading rightwingers at their word about that.”

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    @Pasquinade: EXCELLENT news for the Republicans Obama!

    @The Main Gauche of Mild Reason: Yeah, I saw that MY kept harping on it. I believe it. Every time I listen to Pence, I can tell there is no there, there.

    ETA: I also like when Obama allows exasperation to enter his voice as he schools the Republicans.

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    I’m sure Obama forgot for an hour that they were all white. /tweety

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    South of I-10 says:

    @Max: This is the one where they are hating on Wendy non-stop. She pretty much deserves it though.

    @RedKitten: I saw that, I was so glad.

    @jeffreyw: Beautiful cat! But more importantly, are you going to make me chicken soup?

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    @Midnight Marauder: “Sirius” is always the best way to open anything. I mean anything. Hockey. A church service. The bride coming down the aisle for a wedding. I desperately want the world to have a soundtrack that plays it anytime I’m going to enter a room.

    That said, I prefer the live version. It’s really a shame that, either way, it’s followed by such a lame song. Even *with* “Sirius,” Eye in the Sky is far and away my least favorite Alan Parsons album, with or without Eric Woolfson.

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    Bondo says:

    CDC Report on Falls Related to Pets

    Back when I first read this the lesson was women fall more than men because of pets, and much more often due to dogs than cats. It made cat ownership seem sound. But this report only addresses non-fatal injuries, so given John’s contention, the hidden cat menace is being covered up. Part of a cat conspiracy no doubt.

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    Cat Lady says:


    I’ve only watched one episode so far, and now that Ping’s gone I can safely watch the others. I hate that whole dipsy doodle airy fairy let’s see what happens when I throw the fabric up in the air and see where it lands shtick she had going on. One of the previous seasons had one of those who didn’t last long either – the one who used grass stains or some stupid crap. She sucked too.

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    Mark S. says:

    RT @peterdaou: How strategically inept of Republicans to put themselves in a position where Obama can school them on live TV

    Who knew a Q&A session could be so dangerous? I guess the only way for Republicans to be on equal footing is to only appear on TV while Hannity is fellating them.

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    Anon PT says:

    Glad to hear about your progress! Yes, the simple pleasures of a shower and a good night sleep can never be misunderstimated. Sounds like you had a positive session today and things are progressing as should be expected. Again as a PT, I just want to remind you, try to be faithful and diligent in following the MD orders and PT’s instructions. Good luck on future sessions once the stretching/strengthening exercises and some might say the (real meaning of what PT stands for) Physical Torture begins….( you might want to work now on your relaxation techniques and focus on your breathing, it’ll come in handy when you start more aggressive therapy sessions).

    Keep taking the pain med (or antinflammatory) or whatever the Doc is recommending at least 1 hour before your PT rehab sessions…and Ice, ice, ice….as much as you feel necessary or find helpful. Stay positive…wish you the best of luck.

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    @jeffreyw: Send some my way. I iz sick, too! That looks so yummy.

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    @Midnight Marauder: Eh. Finally got the whole thing to load and watched it. It went downhill as soon as they started playing that crap from Top Gun. Not sure how many people would catch this, but the icebreaker the bear destroys first is the Seawolf, which is a reference to Alaska-Anchorage.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    Funny thing, it was me and three middle-aged women- two with shoulder injuries and one with a hip injury. All three shoulder injuries involved dogs and ice, but the hip injury was caused when the woman was tripped down the stairs by her cat.
    Obvious moral- dogs will hurt you, but cats kill.

    They put a dead woman through rehab? My God, you really do have the best medical system in the world.

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    South of I-10 says:

    @jeffreyw: That looks so yummy. I am not up to cooking – I don’t think Mr. South has ever made soup but I bet he could handle it.

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    Something Fabulous says:

    @SGEW: You know the cliche, But I LITERALLY bought the t-shirt! Wore it just yesterday!

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    Jay C says:

    Obvious moral- dogs will hurt you, but cats kill.

    And the worst part is – they KNOW it! All of them…..

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    South of I-10 says:

    @asiangrrlMN: Oh no, what’s wrong? We should commiserate.

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    Chat Noir says:

    @arguingwithsignposts: Luv teh Smudge! Goodness but that is one cute kitty.

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    Comrade Darkness says:

    Good sign, John. Keep on healin’. [imagine big thumb’s up cartoon here]

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    @South of I-10: I am hoping it’s ‘only’ bronchitis because I get that a lot and now how to deal with it. However, I think it might be the flu or a cold. I am flushed, but I also get the chills. Me? The chills? In a heated building? Travesty! I have a constant drip in the back of my throat. I have a cough, and I am not very hungry. I think I got it when I went to the co-op, quite frankly. Feh.

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    South of I-10 says:

    @asiangrrlMN: I went to the doctor earlier, so definitely the flu. What is bizarre is I am not running fever, but I feel like I am. Chills, body aches and all that fun stuff. My head feels like it is going to explode.

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    Chat Noir says:


    I am already getting turned on by the prez. Is that wrong of me?

    No, you’re good. Smart men are very attractive. And I like the way Obama walks. Confident and with purpose. He comes across as a man who is very comfortable with himself.

    I can’t find the video of his Republican smackdown today! The one at the GOS and CSPAN don’t seem to work.

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    @Chat Noir: C-SPAN is down for site maintenance. Give it a few, and it will be up again.

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    bemused says:

    @Chat Noir:
    Guys who are not only smart but funny too are the most attractive. When I watch these dipshit R’s (& Dems like Harold Ford, Lieberman) I always wonder why any women would marry them.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    They were surprised to hear I am running the ice machine 24/7- apparently most people do not like it that much, but happy I am as it will apparently help the healing.

    The thing is frickin’ noisy, so I’m guessing that’s why some people give up on it. For me, it was my bestest friend in the world. I think I had it for two weeks until I couldn’t take the noise anymore.

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    PTirebiter says:

    I hated the ice. I always went with 15 minutes of heat packs before tackling the 1 pound hand weights. Good luck.

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    sigyn says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: “My cats are always on the stairs weaving through my feet, when I try to go downstairs. I wonder what they are planning.”

    Oh, they’re trying to trip you alright. But have you ever noticed how much tripping goes on between cats?

    My hypothesis is that they’re just trying to have fun and it’s not Their fault we don’t spring right back up from the bottom step.

    That’s what I tell myself so I can sleep at night.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    Glad the first PT session went well, and that the doctor’s check-in on the wound also went well.

    I’ve found that when my lower back hurts (herniated disk at L4-L5) ice really helps. Before the surgery at L5-S1, ice packs helped more than heat did.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Morbo: Love the Borg Chicken.

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    @arguingwithsignposts: She has grown so much. So precious.

    @jeffreyw:That soup looks amazing (hint, hint) and that little cat was a beauty!

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @sigyn: My two kittehs love to ambush each other. I love the kitteh butt wiggle of doom

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    @schrodinger’s cat:
    is the “kitteh butt wiggle of doom” anything like the back paw salute? I only have one, so I can’t compare.

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    Fraud Guy says:

    My mother in law had her first stroke after she fell in her tub, trying to chase my wife’s cat out. Also had some nasty stitches across her forehead from hitting the cast iron tub.

    cob a dos(sp)

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    cfaller96 says:

    Perhaps no one has seen this.

    The timetable Emanuel is laying out makes little sense. The jobs bill will take some time. Financial regulation will take much longer. Let’s be conservative and give all this four months. Is Emanuel really suggesting that he expects Congress to return to health-care reform in the summer before the election? Forgetting whether there’s political will at that point, there’s no personnel: Everyone is home campaigning.

    I guess now we’ll have to endure more “Show Me On The Doll Where Rahm Touched You” posts, because as we all know from the Balloon Juicers, progressives are irrational about their criticism of Rahm Emanuel. Nope, he’s doing a heckuva job, and he’s not trying to torpedo HCR or anything.

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    Elie says:

    We all have to pay the price for love — and occassionally accidents happen no matter what..

    I have had both dogs and kittehs though I have just kittehs right now. Any negative consequence is always outweighted by the pleasure of their company — always…

    Love to the Tunch- man. I authorize him to give you a little love scratch for saying such a mean thing

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    Eljai says:

    My cat Sparky once locked me in the bathroom and set the kitchen on fire. But I love her.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    Butt wiggle of doom, is when a kitteh sees a mouse or a bird or your toe, or the other cat’s tailand goes into hunter-killer mode, wiggles her butt and lands on the unsuspecting victim.

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    John Cole,

    I’ve figured out why you switched from the Reps to the Dems. The Dems are the Mommy party and you are writing all these diaries about your health to get Mom’s sympathy and concern.

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