Teabagging with Bobo

“Progressive elites” is my favorite euphemism for hippies:

What we’re seeing is the latest iteration of that populist tendency and the militant progressive reaction to it. We now have a populist news media that exaggerates the importance of the Van Jones and Acorn stories to prove the elites are decadent and un-American, and we have a progressive news media that exaggerates stories like the Joe Wilson shout and the opposition to the Obama schools speech to show that small-town folks are dumb wackos.

“One could argue that this country is on the verge of a crisis of legitimacy,” the economic blogger Arnold Kling writes. “The progressive elite is starting to dismiss rural white America as illegitimate, and vice versa.”

DC area millionaire David Brooks wants all you elitist middle-class flyover motherfuckers to stop being so damned elitist.

And, as you’d expect, the sober-minded Arnold Kling is a CATO Institute whack job. Here he is on the stimulus:

And now we’ve got a new gang of thugs and they are doing the same thing. So that’s how I feel, now back to how I think.

At least Brooks didn’t find a way to quote Steve Sailer again.

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83 replies
  1. 1
    Progressive Elitist says:

    “The progressive elite is starting to dismiss rural white America as illegitimate, and vice versa.”

    Starting?

  2. 2
    JGabriel says:

    David Brooks:

    … we have a progressive news media that exaggerates stories like the Joe Wilson shout and the opposition to the Obama schools speech to show that small-town folks are dumb wackos.

    I love how Brooks says “small-town folks” when he really means “Republicans”.

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  3. 3
    MelodyMaker says:

    I’m devastated. Unless I count if my mom was from a little town?

  4. 4
    JK says:

    David Brooks is a clueless useless tool. One of the more disturbing aspects of Brooks is that he has so many different platforms from which to disseminate his stupid views. He has his NYT column, a regular Friday nite slot on the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, a regular spot on the Charlie Rose show whenever Charlie holds a political roundtable segment, and frequent appearances on the Sunday morning shows.

    OT

    Pat Buchanan promotes “9/11 Truth” movement
    The so-called Patrick J. Buchanan Official Website has reposted from the racist VDARE blog a column claiming that the World Trade Center’s were destroyed not by the planes which were crashed into them, but by controlled demolition.

    h/t http://adamholland.blogspot.co.....truth.html

  5. 5
    Comrade Kevin says:

    we have a progressive news media

    Where?

  6. 6
    MelodyMaker says:

    and NPR with EJ Dionne.

  7. 7
    JK says:

    @Comrade Kevin:

    David Brooks is talking like an idiot as ususal.

    For the actual progressive media you should check out

    http://www.themediaconsortium.org/our-members

    plus the Pacifica News Service, The Consortium for Independent Journalism, Independent Media Center, and Inter Press Service News Agency.

  8. 8
    Mark S. says:

    Barack Obama leads a government of the highly educated. His movement includes urban politicians, academics, Hollywood donors and information-age professionals. In his first few months, he has fused federal power with Wall Street, the auto industry, the health care industries and the energy sector. Given all of this, it was guaranteed that he would spark a populist backlash, regardless of his skin color.

    Yeah, Obama’s the first president who ever hired elites for his advisors. Previous presidents contented themselves with cabinet members who wore overalls and were named Cletus.

    I suppose you could argue that Beck and his idiots are populists, but it is a populism based entirely on hating the Democratic Party. Beck makes a fortune doing what he does; I have no idea what his followers get out of it.

  9. 9
    Bill E Pilgrim says:

    Damn it, I hate it when I dismiss white America. Cause I have to dismiss my entire family, for one thing, plus many of my friends, especially the ones who are in rural areas.

    The ones in leftover communes up in rural Northern California are especially pissed when I have to dismiss them, plus all of the artsy types I know in rural Iowa, Colorado, yeesh.

    Can I have a waiver and just dismiss myopic Mister Magoo Masters of Cliche like David Brooks instead?

    “I never met a gross, insulting stereotype I didn’t like” -David “Bobo” Brooks.

  10. 10
    JGabriel says:

    Message to David Brooks:

    Fox News is NOT a “populist news media”; it is a Rupert Murdoch financed propaganda arm of the GOP.

    Van Jones and Acorn are not “elites”; Jones is an activist and ACORN is a community action group.

    The mainstream news media is no more “progressive” than it is liberal.

    Joe Wilson and the “opposition to the Obama schools speech” are not “small town folks”; they are Republicans.

    Finally, George Orwell’s Politics and the English Language is NOT a style guide; it is criticism.

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  11. 11
    LesleyAP says:

    “The progressive elite is starting to dismiss rural white America as illegitimate, and vice versa.”

    Uh, no. I feel that most moderates and those on the left -heck ANYONE not associated with the teabaggers- don’t make such generalizations. We know that some of the right wingers may live in rural areas, but that it is not a prerequisite. I live in Baltimore and they’re here in my city. It seems most of the generalizations are coming from the right wingers organizing this mess and cable news pundits in search of a simple “who hates whom story”. Sweeping generalizations and reductions of complex problems to stereotypes are a hallmark of the right wing and, increasingly, the MSM.

    I can see Brooks is trying to frame this as an American Theme- part of our country’s DNA. And he is right insofar as it has been with us since the birth of this country. But racism is also part of our DNA, an on-going theme. It’s not the only theme stoked by the right; Xenophobia works too. The right uses the hatred of its followers as a blunt instrument to damage the agenda of the opposition.

    Ultimately it doesn’t matter if it’s racism or what. It all comes down to hatred, ignorance and eventually violence which sets us back, time and time again, from addressing on any meaningful level the issues which beset our country.

  12. 12
    JGabriel says:

    Mark S.:

    Previous presidents contented themselves with cabinet members who wore overalls and were named Cletus.

    It might be more apropos to characterize the previous administration as a cabinet members who contented themselves with a president who wore overalls and was nicknamed Clusterfuck.

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  13. 13
    Bill E Pilgrim says:

    a progressive news media that exaggerates stories like the Joe Wilson shout and the opposition to the Obama schools speech to show that small-town folks are dumb wackos

    There are so many astonishing yet somehow predictable fallacies in that one segment that I hardly dare start unpacking it.

    Nonetheless, putting on my plastic journalistic customs agent gloves and digging bravely into the soiled, hastily-packed, suspiciously-heavy, old brown fabric suitcase that is a David Brooks “insight” in search of smuggled disingenuous pundit contraband:

    Did even the “Progressive Blogosphere”, let alone the mythical “Progressive Media” say that everyone in small towns is a dumb wacko? Or even smart wackos? Or are even the worst of the ridiculers ridiculing these particular people, and rightly so? Has Brooks ever seen a progressive tease other small town progressives, like aging hippies or folk gatherings or organic farming communities and so on? No? Really?

    Has Brooks ever heard the progressive blogosphere going on, and on, and on– about the fat cats on Wall Street and the bankers and the corporations and globalism? Are these supposedly small-town, rural global fat cat bankers and CEOs??

    And I mean if not– why not? It’s everywhere in progressive blogoland!

    If Brooks actually took the time to READ what progressives had to say he’d know how absurd this gross generalizing is, but instead I fear that his only contact with real progressives are the ones he imagines chatting with at some organic version of the AppleBee’s salad bar.

  14. 14
    JGabriel says:

    Bill E Pilgrim:

    Did even the “Progressive Blogosphere”, let alone the mythical “Progressive Media” say that everyone in small towns is a dumb wacko?

    Of course not, but you miss Bobo’s intent. It’s not to bitch about the progressive blogosphere — it’s to reframe the “liberal media” as the “progressive media” and to associate mainstream media who reported on Wilson and opposition to Obama’s school speech as “progressive elites” who think rural and suburban people are “dumb wackos”.

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    Bill E Pilgrim says:

    @JGabriel: Oh I think he’s trying to do both. Or rather, trying to put progressive blogosphere thoughts into the corporate mainstream media’s mouth, and THEN thereby dismiss them as progressive elites.

    Which it occurs to me is sort of what you said. But my point is that this IS his way of really bitching about the progressive blogosphere, in his own, devious, addle-headed way.

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    JGabriel says:

    Some jokes aren’t that funny, and most aren’t as funny the second or third time you hear them.

    But “Keep fucking that chicken” is the surrealism that keeps on giving. Or, as Anastos might say, that keeps fucking that chicken.

    I swear to God, I crack up anew everytime I see that phrase. What the fuck Anastos thinking?

    .

  17. 17
    JGabriel says:

    Bill E Pilgrim:

    But my point is that this IS his way of really bitching about the progressive blogosphere, in his own, devious, addle-headed way.

    Fair enough. I guess there’s just no way to keep Brooks from fucking that chicken.

    .

  18. 18
    arguingwithsignposts says:

    I find that whole lead in to be very much in the “some of my best friends are black” vein of defensiveness.

    “One could argue that this country is on the verge of a crisis of legitimacy,” the economic blogger Arnold Kling writes. “The progressive elite is starting to dismiss rural white America as illegitimate, and vice versa.”

    It’s not race. It’s another type of conflict, equally deep and old.

    That quote about “rural white America” is pure racist dog whistling, which destroys Brooks’ whole point in the last paragraph, if I’m not mistaken.

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    freelancer says:

    last post of tonight,

    my best friend is leaving in the morning for the peace corps. 2 years teaching at the university level in the Ukraine. I can only pray that what she comes back to is better than what she left.

    http://forgetthisnoise.blogspo.....-past.html

    Either these are racists looking for any excuse to level the next accusation or they’re beyond crazy. And I think beyond crazy is a better explanation and that evangelical subculture has rotted the brain of the United States of America. We have a big slice of our population waiting for Jesus to come back. They look forward to Armageddon. Good news is bad news to them. We talk about the Left Behind series of books that I talk about in my book Crazy for God.
    What we’re really talking about is a group of people are resentful because they know they’ve been left behind by modernity, by science, by education, by art, by literature—the rest of us are getting on with our lives. These people are standing on a hill top waiting for the end and this is a dangerous group of people to have as neighbors. And they’re our national neighbors. And this is the source of all these insanities that we see leveled at the President. One way or the other they go back to this little evangelical subculture. It’s a disaster.

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    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal) says:

    Many years ago, The progressive elite rural white America  is starting to dismissed  rural white America anyone who was not like them  as illegitimate, and vice versa.

    Fixed.

    Too many people in rural white America hate everyone who is not on their ‘side’, end of story. To them, it’s them or us. No room for both because they are intolerant of any thought, action or opinion other ones that support their narrow flat world views.

    There is no bipartisanship, that fucker died a horrible death many years ago. Who killed it? The fuckers who are screaming for blood.

    The Republican ‘base’, aka The South.

  21. 21
    Bill E Pilgrim says:

    CNN Web site headline, now:

    Obama as witch doctor: Racist or satirical?

    Gosh, what a puzzler. Let me think.

    “Lynchings: racist murder or acceptable form of social commentary?”

    Join our CNN discussion of this issue to probe “both sides”.

  22. 22
    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal) says:

    Future CNN headlines:

    Black Man Hanged: Murder or Fitting For A New Tie Gone Horribly Wrong?

    Black Woman Beat By White Man In Front Of Her Child: A Hate Crime and Child Abuse or Slight Misunderstanding?

    Black Man Dragged To Death Behind Pickup: Hate Crime or Offering A Tow To A Motorist In Distress?

    Gee, maybe I can get a job there! Waddyathink?

  23. 23
    wasabi gasp says:

    That chicken: pluck it or fuck it?

  24. 24
    Napoleon says:

    Another example that Brooks is nothing but a dishonest cog in the right wing noise machine. His peice is nothing more then the 20 billionth repeat of this BS meme that you can pick up Perlstein’s Nixonland and read about (Franklin versus Orthogonian). What he wrote is nothing more or less then the same thing.

  25. 25
    Ash Can says:

    From Merriam-Webster online:

    Populist:
    2 : a believer in the rights, wisdom, or virtues of the common people

    And from TheFreeDictionary.com:

    pop·u·lism n.
    1. a. A political philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against the privileged elite.

    Evidently, Bobo doesn’t believe there are any urban or non-white common people, believes that to call out racism, boorishness, and/or ignorance makes one a militant progressive, and believes that RW/GOP=populist.

    In other words, he doesn’t have Clue One what he’s talking about.

  26. 26
    ironranger says:

    I love how DC insider elitists expound on populism, rural americans & all aspects of american culture that are far, far removed from their own bubble. The closet babbling Brooks ventured from his tribal village was checking out suburban chain restaurants as he wrote about suburbia that he alternately treated with disdain or admired the conservative, republican suburban world as exhibiting the american dream.
    Of course, any DC insiders making an effort to comprehend anything out of their comfort zone would get them thrown out of the club.
    Republicans are repressive elites.

  27. 27
    Ann B. Nonymous says:

    Wasn’t Brooks the pundit who quoted Oakeshott to argue against planning for the Iraq occupation?

    (Oakeshott. Who reads Oakeshott? The man is so minor, he makes John Dewey look like a figure of world historical importance.)

  28. 28
    IndieTarheel says:

    Many people would have to work awfully hard to be as stupid as Brooks is. A shame that the only real talent he has is such an utterly useless one.

  29. 29
    Ted the Slacker says:

    “progressive news media”

    No idea what he’s on about.

  30. 30
    geg6 says:

    OT, but why is the Today Show giving Jerry Jones a blowjob on my teevee this morning?

  31. 31
    kay says:

    He wrote the same column after the 2004 election.
    So did Peggy Noonan.

  32. 32
    Cataphract says:

    Regarding the “progressive media,” is that like the dirty hippies on NPR who only play McCain’s and Boner’s opinions regarding the breakdown of the Eastern European missile shield yesterday? Heard it again this morning, and that’s all you come away with.

    Is it that progressive media?

    I always figured Brooks might be a bearable moderate because he was on the Lehrer News Hour. Now I know he’s nothing but an assclown.

  33. 33
    valdivia says:

    oh Bobo, always putting Republican behavior at the same level of Democratic behavior to make the reps look better and make the dems look badly. The truth is that this formulation of his is so so used it actually feels antiquated and reads like one of his columns during the Bush years.

    A little OT but not so much, given the dismissal of knowledgeable elites, this reader rant at TPM is highly satisfying.

  34. 34
    WereBear says:

    Man’s a total wanker. I read his claim to book fame: Bobos in Paradise: The New Upper Class and How They Got There, and I plowed through a third of it before I got tired of hearing the same weak reasoning recast into another tiny facet of consumerism.

  35. 35
    kay says:

    @Cataphract:

    Obama’s doing well with that. It has been YEARS since someone talked about the cost/benefit of anything remotely connected to national security, in terms of dollars.
    Conservatives have gotten a pass on “defense spending” since Reagan, and it’s silly, and it shouldn’t and can’t continue.
    It’s part of federal spending. The idea that we can’t even look at adjustments in defense allocation without the right wing chorus rising up to declare cutting anything off-limits is a purely ideologically-driven rule conservatives constructed.
    Enough. It ALL should be on the table. It’s ALL subject to review.

  36. 36
    aimai says:

    How did we hippies go from being so powerless to so poweful without my noticing?

    aimai

  37. 37
    Napoleon says:

    @aimai:

    Because we teamed up with Obama’s hip-hop crowd and now we rule the world.

  38. 38
    asiangrrlMN says:

    @aimai: Hell, yeah. I want my fucking piece of that pie! If I’m a DFH elitist, then I should have some privileges, amirite?

    What a useless piece of shit you are, Brooks. And a big, fat, lying hypocrite, too.

    I got an idea for a reality show. All these Villagers who talk about the common man in good ol’ small town, USA need to haul ass and go live in a small town for a year. Then they can talk about the pulse of the small town.

  39. 39
    asiangrrlMN says:

    @Napoleon: Well, then someone owes me a pony! Nah, I’d rather have a hybrid Lamborghini. George Soros, I’m looking at YOU.

  40. 40
    gnomedad says:

    @JGabriel:
    Fox News has affirmative action for Tourette’s?

  41. 41
    kth says:

    To elucidate the obvious: Kling’s equivalency is totally false. The teabaggers are denying the legitimacy of a watershed landslide election. But the progressives are only denying the legitimacy of the original legitimacy-deniers, not of electoral results and other democratic prerogatives when right-wingers win elections.

  42. 42
    SenyorDave says:

    For Brooks to seriously argue that the Teabagger Movement (I feel ridiculous even typing that phrase, it seems like something right out of South Park) does not have a strong racist component to it shows either how clueless he is or that he’s lying.

  43. 43
    4tehlulz says:

    >it shows either how clueless he is or that he’s lying.

    These aren’t mutually exclusive, so I’ll go with both.

  44. 44
    Wilson Heath says:

    @JGabriel:

    +1,000. Thanks for saving me the typing before the coffee has kicked in.

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    BC says:

    David Brooks knows – no, really knows – that the GOP has been using the racial wedge since Nixon. He is distressed by that, so his solution is to use every rhetorical tool to show that it really is not true. But deep down he does know this. (I saw this once on the Lehrer News Hour, he really did try to come to terms with it, but I think he has since decided the best course of action is to deny it and by denying it often enough and loudly enough it will cease to be true.)

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    georgia pig says:

    It’s too kind to call the Villagers “clueless.” By and large, they’re con artists with a cushy gig. They aren’t much different than Glenn Beck or Rush, they’re just smoother to cater to their particular marks.

  47. 47
    J says:

    Curious that DB managed not to see any of the signs depicting Obama as Hitler, the Joker et al. One wonders how participants in the Black family group would react to those.

    As others have pointed out already, the whole column essentially begs the question by assuming that the marchers are representative of a homogeneous small town rural America rather than fringe nutters. Obama, as I think Kth observed, is not an alien imposition on the real America, but the winner of a landslide victory who, outside the deep south, garnered masses of support from different sorts of people, including the present-day counterpart of Jefferson’s small freeholders–if there really is any such thing. The real story is of a popular president, moderate and centrist to a fault, stymied by an outlandish combination of the big money elite, their bought and paid for pseudo-populist press and a dysfunctional legislature.

  48. 48
    FlipYrWhig says:

    How exactly is ACORN “elite”? Isn’t the whole chicken-fuckin’ point that they help poor people get organized to stand up for themselves politically and economically?

  49. 49
    Bill In OH says:

    @asiangrrlMN: Hells yeah, asiangrrlMN! The committee handing out the progressive elite spoils must have lost my address. I demand an inquiry!

    I second your reality show idea. That’s one I would actually watch. I envision it as a cross between “The Simple Life” and “Lord of the Flies”

  50. 50
    Leelee for Obama says:

    I am watching Bertha Lewis the CEO of ACORN and I’ve got to tell you, this is a class-act Lady. I haven’t got much to donate anywhere just now, but I’m gonna send them a few bucks to help defray the losses they’ll incur with losing the Federal funding.

    She’s gonna be on Chris Wallace on Sunday-not just classy, but gutsy-gotta love that.

  51. 51
    Napoleon says:

    @georgia pig:

    Bingo – BoBo’s job is to feed the swill the right wing noise machine spews out to the NYT/NPR/PBS crowd, without the rough edges. He knows that which is why he turns out columns like this which could have been taken right out of Nixon/Buchanan/Philip’s or Reagan/Bush/Atwate or Bush/Rove’s playbook.

  52. 52
    JenJen says:

    I liked the heartwarming story about the Teabaggers mingling with the Black Family Reunion, and buying food from their booths and dancing at their concerts and how that means we can all get along and we are post-racial, or something.

    Now, maybe some Teabaggers really did go to the Black Family Reunion after the march; BFR happens all over the country and it’s an awesome cultural street festival. But I doubt they were the kinds of Teabaggers with the truly noxious signs, you know?

    Bobo’s World is pretty.

  53. 53
    CalD says:

    For the record, I really am an elitist. I actually do think that I am smarter than most folks.

  54. 54
    CalD says:

    PS: Present company excluded, of course.

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    Thlayli says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    How exactly is ACORN “elite”?

    Didn’t you hear? ACORN is Obama’s secret ninja army, and striking at ACORN will remove all of Obama’s power over us.

    Or something.

  56. 56
    Comrade Dread says:

    Forgot the exact numbers, but isn’t the rural population percentage of the US hovering around 25%? And aren’t most farms these days owned and run by corporations and agribusiness?

    Why in the world does the media still perpetuate the image of the conservative, wise, country farmer?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @CalD: Yeah, I sorta felt like that was yer attitude when you were on TPM shilling for HRC. Guess ya got that one wrong, smart dude.

  59. 59
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Thlayli:

    ACORN is Obama’s secret ninja army

    So it’s “elite” like Saddam Hussein’s “Elite Republican Guard”?

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    DonkeyKong says:

    When Bobo’s beamer breaks down he has it towed to Kansas to be repaired by real americans, because us progressive elites are to busy performing late term abortions and fuckin each other in the ass.

    Plus meth use in flyover states is off the charts so they can get more done on any given day.

  61. 61
    Svensker says:

    @wasabi gasp:

    Ha ha ha.

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    drillfork says:

    @JGabriel:

    Oh it will get old eventually. Think about that early Simpsons when Bart got 15 minutes of fame for some catch-phrase.

    Hell, think about the Simpsons. I mean, no one really watches it anymore, do they?

    It is hard to imagine right now, but it will get played.

    In the meantime though, do keep fucking that chicken. Also…

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    Svensker says:

    @Thlayli:

    Didn’t you hear? ACORN is Obama’s secret ninja army, and striking at ACORN will remove all of Obama’s power over us.

    ACORN has teamed up with SEIU and using the all-powerful and ever-handy Saul Alinsky handbook, they — in cahoots with Obama — have plotted the PERFECT soshulist takeover of the U.S. Unless stopped by Glenn, Sean, Michelle, the Teabaggers and the Mighty Rush. It’s true!

    (As far as I can tell, this is actually what they “think”.)

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    Steeplejack says:

    @J:

    The real story is of a popular president, moderate and centrist to a fault, stymied by an outlandish combination of the big money elite, their bought and paid for pseudo-populist press and a dysfunctional legislature.

    Nailed it.

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    SenyorDave says:

    drillfork:

    I didn’t do it.

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    Bullsmith says:

    There were comments on Brooks’ column when I read it this morning, I left one calling the article pap, but now they’re gone. Maybe he was just getting too much love….

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Svensker:

    ACORN has teamed up with SEIU and using the all-powerful and ever-handy Saul Alinsky handbook, they—in cahoots with Obama—have plotted the PERFECT soshulist takeover of the U.S.

    It’s like Captain Planet, The Next Generation.

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    gwangung says:

    There’s something interesting over at Coates:

    When political strategists argue that the Republican Party is missing a huge chance to court the black community, they are thinking of this mostly male bloc—the old guy in the barbershop, the grizzled Pop Warner coach, the retired Vietnam vet, the drunk uncle at the family reunion. He votes Democratic, not out of any love for abortion rights or progressive taxation, but because he feels—in fact, he knows—that the modern-day GOP draws on the support of people who hate him. This is the audience that flocks to Cosby: culturally conservative black Americans who are convinced that integration, and to some extent the entire liberal dream, robbed them of their natural defenses.

    And then there’s the mirror:

    I think this kind of attitude also explains the What’s the Matter with Kansas” scenario. Pretend for a moment, you are Hank Hill, you don’t get a benefit from a cut in the estate tax or a reduction in the 39% bracket, but you can sense the disdain from those who are often the public face of liberalism. Hank Hill types don’t believe this nonsense about birth certificates, but certainly his neighbor, Dale does. Maybe Hank hears about how Maddow and Olbermann, and other east coast elitists are mocking people like his friend and neighbor and might take some of that personally. One too many mentions of Southerns being crazy, or “what do you expect from these fundies”, and Hank will get the impression that he is held in low regard by people who tend to vote for Democrats. He very well knows his friend Dale isn’t completely right, but he also knows that Dale is a much more complex human being than the unnuanced view put forth by the elitists. Thats why he may take something said about his peers personally. The Nixon strategy wasn’t just about race, a lot of it dealt with the this scenario according to Nixonland. The thing is, you can have someone like Obama handle all this correctly by saying he doesn’t think it is about race, but rather is a difference of opinion. But you have Obama saying one thing and large chunks of Obama’s allies saying something different. So Obama and Gibbs saying it isn’t about race are drowned out by Carter, Olbermann and the rest.

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    Bulworth says:

    “Teabagging with Bobo” is a seriously awesome title.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @gwangung:

    Hank will get the impression that he is held in low regard by people who tend to vote for Democrats.

    What doesn’t click for me about this explanation–which comes up a lot–is that if (allegedly) contemptuous treatment of the other side is such a turn-off, why don’t Republicans and conservatives have to worry about the ferocious contempt in which _they_ hold the other side? Hank probably knows women and gay people and Mexicans and union members who don’t live up to every stereotype propagated against them; why doesn’t he hear Republican animosity and recoil from that?

    Why does only one side get to say, “Fuck you, losers, you disgust me?” Resentment cuts both ways. I wants it. I resent the hell out of puffy old white Protestant conservatives. They resent me back. Fine, we’re even. I don’t know my sentiments are a political problem but theirs need respect.

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    mey says:

    You see what they’re doing, right? “Progressive” is the new “liberal”. Meaning, they’re trying to take anyone calling themselves “Progressive” instead of “Liberal” and making “Progressive” the new dirty word.

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    LD50 says:

    Coates is being too polite.

    He votes Democratic, not out of any love for abortion rights or progressive taxation, but because he feels—in fact, he knows—that the modern-day GOP -draws- depends on the support of people who hate him.

    Fixed

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    LD50 says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    I recall quite clearly during the dark days of 2001-2005 that liberal blogs were infested with concern trolls babbling about “You know you elitist moonbat libs will never get back into power as long as you keep making fun of Joe Sixpack, her her.” In fact, as I recall, it was for people that that the term “concern troll” was invented. Then the GOP got wiped out in ’06, and again in ’08.

    Short answer, while it would be *nice* to have Hank Hill’s vote, we apparently don’t *need* it. And Dale can go fuck himself.

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    bobbo says:

    How is this Bobo column different from any of the last 500 columns? The guy is a conservative elitist posing as a man who understands the little guy – just like every other columnist.

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    matoko_chan says:

    gah…Brooks conveniently forgets that Jefferson STRONGLY favored leadership by elites, the natural aristoi (see Barack Obama) over the artificial aristoi (see George Bush Presidentsson), that this country was CONCEIVED, DESIGNED, and IMPLEMENTED by elites, and that Andy Jackson would have gutshot Beck on sight for a dirty seccessionist and told Sarah Palin to stay home and take care of her children.
    Is it all just whistling in the dark?
    The electoral environment has changed….the conservatives are like dinosaurs running around trying to lay eggs in a New Ice Age snowstorm…..they are extinct already, but the tiny little auxilary brains in their dinosaur hips just don’t know it yet.

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    slippy says:

    Check out awesome debunking of Brooks that PeeJ of Sadly, No! turned me onto. It is a blistering expose of Brooks’ intellectual dishonesty, exposing him as a glib hack who barely bothers to leave his doorstep to do his so-called “research.”

    I left a comment on his bullshit article earlier too and I went back to see if there were responses and there are no comments anymore. Apparently Brooks is too thin-skinned to be talked back to, like many Villagers.

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    @FlipYrWhig

    What doesn’t click for me about this explanation—which comes up a lot—is that if (allegedly) contemptuous treatment of the other side is such a turn-off, why don’t Republicans and conservatives have to worry about the ferocious contempt in which they hold the other side? Hank probably knows women and gay people and Mexicans and union members who don’t live up to every stereotype propagated against them; why doesn’t he hear Republican animosity and recoil from that?
    Why does only one side get to say, “Fuck you, losers, you disgust me?” Resentment cuts both ways. I wants it. I resent the hell out of puffy old white Protestant conservatives. They resent me back. Fine, we’re even. I don’t know my sentiments are a political problem but theirs need respect.

    Hear! Hear! I’m kind of tired of hearing how we have to be ever so solicitous of people who are ill-informed and too goddamned stupid and lazy to get off their asses so they can stop being ill-informed. Fuck these idiots, I’m tired of their ignorant protesting, I’m tired of their racism. I’m tired of the goddamned endless e-mails they forward me, e-mails that can be easily debunked by a quick five minute jaunt to Google. I’m tired of their whining, pissing and moaning and putting up with their endless sense of victimization. I’m tired of their sense of entitlement and I’m tired of the fact that they think that they are “real Americans” and everyone else is just living here at their sufferance.

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    @matoko_chan

    gah…Brooks conveniently forgets that Jefferson STRONGLY favored leadership by elites, the natural aristoi (see Barack Obama) over the artificial aristoi (see George Bush Presidentsson), that this country was CONCEIVED, DESIGNED, and IMPLEMENTED by elites, and that Andy Jackson would have gutshot Beck on sight for a dirty secessionist and told Sarah Palin to stay home and take care of her children.

    Andrew Jackson also would have given namby, pamby David Brooks a huge noogie with the butt of a dueling pistol and then forced him to eat beef jerky from between his butt-cheeks. Andrew Jackson didn’t fuck around, he would have torn the flesh from Chuck Norris’s body and made it into a pair of gloves and a tobacco pouch.

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    terry chay says:

    Whatever. Bobo’s columns are among the only ones on the NYTimes website that you cannot comment on.

    That alone speaks volumes.

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    leo says:

    If someone like Brook is going to go out and call these people populists, at the very least, you’d think he’d be under an obligation to show how the beliefs of these people actually help working people — and if he can’t show that, then who else exactly their beliefs do help.

    A good measure of populism is how those in wealth and power would be affected by what the person is advocating. On this basis, these people are the very opposite of populists.

    In fact, the Teabaggers are a rich man’s dream come true!

    Remember, when a conservative like Brooks portrays right-wing groups as ‘populist’, it’s a conscious effort to give them a legitimacy — in other words, working class creds — that nothing in their agenda or activities would suggest.

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    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal) says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Agreed, I am pissed and have been for years now. These fuckwits are newly pissed, let the assholes go to the back of the line. We were here first after having to watch these fuckers and their party screw the pooch for far too long. They can either recognize that they ARE the problem, step back and let the adults try to clean up the mess they made, or they can listen to us berate and ridicule them for their willingness to continue smacking their heads against the bloody brick wall.

    Fuck their poor little feelings, we have been eating their shit sandwich long enough. They might love the taste but I am sick of it and have been since day one. Boo-fucking-hoo, for all I care they can go suck on a diseased donkey dick. I’m a white guy and I am sick and tired of white guys running everything into the ground and spitting on everyone who is not of the chosen race (and party!).

    The powers that be know that if Obama is a success, the Republican party is dead. They are going to fight him every inch of the way, and as impervious as he is to their bullshit I believe they are going to go after his support. They are going to mercilessly attack him with anything they can, doing everything they can to “take him down” once and for all.

    This is going to be a long, nasty, bloody fight. The Clinton years are going to look like a kids party compared to the rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth shit that these fuckwits are going to shovel on us for at least the next few years. Our only hope is that they keep overplaying their crap and making mountains out of molehills. If so, people are going to get sick and tired of the petty whining and turn their back on the shithole that the Republican party has become.

    I wish there was a law protecting states from their own citizens stupidity, one where the other states get to vote on the sanity of the problem state(s). When citizens consistently vote against their best interests it just makes it too easy for corruption to step in, make itself at home and take advantage of the rubes by milking the idiots for all they are worth. I heard on Maddow that if Sanford stayed in Argentina he would have a better medical system and be expected to live longer than if he stayed in South Carolina.

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    arguingwithsignposts says:

    @DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal):

    very well put at the end of a thread. that should be a blog post in its own right, especially the part about this getting ugly. I don’t think we’ve begun to see the ugly, and it’s only 8 months in.

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    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal) says:

    Thanks, I had to keep it short or I would have really unloaded. ;)

    No, we haven’t even begun to see ugly yet, they’re just getting warmed up.

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