Undercover of the right

Everyone’s talking about this CNN segment where Tom Tancredo says that La Raza Is ‘Latino KKK Without The Hoods Or Nooses’.

It’s pretty clear, to his credit, that the CNN anchor, Rich Sanchez, is having none of this tomfoolery. And I have to question the wisdom of going on an anti-Latino tirade….with an anchor whose parents came over from Cuba.

I think that brings up one of the real issues Republicans have with anti-Latino rhetoric: it’s tough to keep track of who is Latino and who isn’t. Time was, if you were serious about it, you knew that Corrigan was a mick and Russo was a wop and Green was a jew. But when race-baiting moved to the young bucks buying t-bones stage, everyone got a little bit lazy because it’s usually easy to tell who is black and who isn’t (Vin Diesel and Bob Barr notwithstanding).

But at this point, I wonder if even hard-core anti-immigrant types have enough racist mojo to keep track of the players without a scorecard. And that seems like one more reason why anti-immigrant rhetoric is a bad idea.






116 replies
  1. 1
    Brachiator says:

    But when race-baiting moved to the young bucks buying t-bones stage, everyone got a little bit lazy because it’s usually easy to tell who is black and who isn’t (Vin Diesel and Bob Barr notwithstanding).

    Nice touch on Bob Barr. I always wondered about him.

    But at this point, I wonder if even hard-core anti-immigrant types have enough racist mojo to keep track of the players without a scorecard. And that seems like one more reason why anti-immigrant rhetoric is a bad idea.

    How about anti-illegal immigrant rhetoric? There is a difference.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    Also, in the good old days of St. Richard of Nixon, and even St. Ronnie, racist “Caucasian” politicians could count on the Puerto Ricans hating the Cubans hating the Mexicans hating the Centralamericanos with far greater fervor than any of them hated the “Caucasian” racists. Alas for solidarity, Ollie North’s Excellent Nicaraguan Adventures and the ensuing 20-plus-year War Against Some Drugs has eroded the time-testing enmities while solidifying the general awareness that whatever a particular Latino/a’s accent, all Tom Tancredo will ever hear is “spic”.

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    JGabriel says:

    DougJ:

    I have to question the wisdom of going on an anti-Latino tirade….with an anchor whose parents came over from Cuba.

    Well, if CNN is hiring Hispanics, that just proves they have a liberal bias!

    The sad thing is, you know Tancredo believes that.

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    JGabriel says:

    How about anti-illegal immigrant rhetoric? There is a difference.

    No, there isn’t. One can debate immigration and documentation rules without literally villifying everyone who comes to the USA without a green card.

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    wilfred says:

    So Tancredo is a racist asshole; hardly a revelation. But if you’re going to object to the politicization of the Supreme Court you’d better go on record right now and promise that you will never, ever participate in similar things when it’s a Republican president picking someone or a Democratic one who has no doubt that his/her choice passes the (gasp!) litmus test of the Democratic voters.

    Only the merits, decisions, qualifications, etc., etc., etc.

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    JGabriel says:

    How about anti-illegal immigrant rhetoric? There is a difference.

    No, there isn’t.

    One can debate immigration and documentation rules without literally villifying everyone who comes to the USA without a green card.

    After all, most laws regarding immigration invoke a return to one’s native country, not a prison sentence or other criminal penalty.

    (Edit wouldn’t allow me to add in the last line. If anyone with editing permissions is reading, please feel free to delete the previous post, and this parenthetical addendum.)

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    wilfred says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Massification of ‘latinos’ is a white construct to begin with. Why on earth would Mexicans have anything in common with Puerto Ricans other than language and dwindling interest in religion? That’s like saying there should be a shared WASP consciousness among Americans, Canadians, English people, New Zealanders, etc.

    Saying that they hate each other is the same as assuming that Mexican-Americans in border towns in Arizona should give a shit because Sotomayor is…what? Latina? Maybe they don’t give a shit either way.

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    The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge says:

    Yeah, I can’t tell any more either. My girlfriend always watches all those CSI-type shows, which I avoid like the plague. Anyway, I’ll be going through the room when she’s watching Bones and there’s this girl in there that I would have bet $100 was of Asian/Latina extraction. I always miss the titles, so I didn’t know her name.

    Well, I finally looked her up, and mirabile dictu, her name is Michaela Conlin, and according to her bio she’s Chinese and Irish! Jeebus fucking McCree, she’s hot, though! Any race-mixin’ you want to set up, if she’s in the mix, I’m fine with that!

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    Travis says:

    That was a painful clip to watch. The core problem with Tancredo isn’t his racism, it is his complete unawareness of his own stupidity. He believes in a simple world, because he is a simple man.

    Rick Sanchez gets no praise when he lets crap like the La Raza = KKK go by – he deliberately avoid comment. The assertion is a hysterically wrong statement on many levels, but Sanchez doesn’t engage.

    Ultimately, he let the guest walk all over him, repeating lies and general fomenting hysteria. The interview was a joke. It was a lack of professionalism that would have ended a career before Cable TV turned news into infotainment.

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    Calouste says:

    Tom Tancredo, the man who is against his own grandparents. Republican family values are go.

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    JK says:

    Kudos to Eric Boehlert and Rick Sanchez for standing on the side of sanity and rationality. Tom Tancredo is a goddamn disgrace and needs to turn in his membership card in the human race.

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    DougJ says:

    But if you’re going to object to the politicization of the Supreme Court you’d better go on record right now and promise that you will never, ever participate in similar things when it’s a Republican president picking someone or a Democratic one who has no doubt that his/her choice passes the (gasp!) litmus test of the Democratic voters.

    I love these kinds of comments. Some moron lecturing me about being even-handed.

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    wilfred says:

    @DougJ:

    Fuck off. You’re even lamer as a poster than you were as whatever the fuck else you were.

    You’re a hypocrite. Deal with it. Unlesss of course should we learn tomorrow that Sotomayor is anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion and pro-torture that you still support her because she is the absolute best person out there.

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    Calouste says:

    @wilfred:

    Tell me again, what has the right wing so far said about the merits and qualifications of a judge who had a fairly stellar academic career, has been on the federal bench for 17 years and has decided hundreds of cases that can be scrutinized? Has any comment from the right wing so far not been about race?

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    DougJ says:

    Fuck off. You’re even lamer as a poster than you were as whatever the fuck else you were.

    Is that the best you can do?

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    wilfred says:

    @DougJ:

    Why should I bring my A game to deal with your pedestrian wanking?

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    JK says:

    The Sotomayor merchandising campaign is now in full swing
    http://www.cafepress.com/water.....tegory-112

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    Jackie says:

    @wilfred: Do you really want to argue that being pro torture shouldn’t disqualify someone from the bench? I’ll bet I could oppose that person without slurring their religon, their ethnic heritage, their gender, their culinary preference or their sexual orientation.

    No one is saying you can’t disagree with her views. All I’m hearing is nonsense about how empathy is bad, she’s not saving enough money, she eats ethnic food and she’s too mean because she asks tough questions and she’s too stupid because her academic acheivements mean nothing.

    But that all works for me. If the republicans want to keep alienating women and hispanic voters then I won’t have to work hard to keep your sociopath off the bench.

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    wilfred says:

    Do you really want to argue that being pro torture shouldn’t disqualify someone from the bench?

    Of course not. I’m merely pointing out that the moment that people find out that Sotomayor may not agree with something precious to them then it will be off with her head, even though she may still be the best qualified person out there.

    All politics is these days is whose ox is being gored at any particular moment. What is absolutely laughable is that I’d bet everyone here is certain that Sotomayor has been vetted to be the perfect candidate for liberals, i.e. in Supreme Court terms she is pro-choice, which immediately gives the lie to equally precious wanking about how high-minded their own positions are vis-a-vis experience, qualifications, etc.

    All I see is hypocrisy from all parties involved.

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    r€nato says:

    What is absolutely laughable is that I’d bet everyone here is certain that Sotomayor has been vetted to be the perfect candidate for liberals, i.e. in Supreme Court terms she is pro-choice

    Gee funny you should bring that up. Sotomayor has never directly ruled on abortion, and both pro-choice and “pro-life” advocacy groups are curious where exactly she stands on the issue.

    So, you know, you’re wrong. She has not been vetted on the issue of reproductive rights.

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    TR says:

    All I see is hypocrisy from all parties involved.

    You must be so much fun at parties, Diogenes.

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    PeakVT says:

    How about anti-illegal immigrant rhetoric? There is a difference.

    If you are truly concerned with illegal immigration you need to vilify the people who hire them. No demand = no supply (or a heck of a lot less).

    Update: Is there a way to un-bold the b-quotes? It’s the only thing I don’t like about this site. That and the neck punching.

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    Tom says:

    (Vin Diesel and Bob Barr notwithstanding)

    It took my like five years to realize Mariah Carey is black.

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    rea says:

    Has any comment from the right wing so far not been about race?

    Oh, come on–be fair! Some of the comments from the right have been about gender! :)

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    John S. says:

    So, you know, you’re wrong.

    That’s ok, wilfred is used to it.

    Incidentally, I think that’s what the vetting process is for; to determine what a nominee’s overall principles and judicial ‘temperment’ are.

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    kay says:

    Obama needs to start using the words “dignified” and “civil”. I was looking at the coronation, um, confirmation of John Roberts, and we all joined together and insisted on dignity and civility.

    Media, Republicans, Democrats.

    Dignity and civility were our goals.

    I’m just pleased as all get out that Judge Sotomayor is being treated with the deference given John Roberts.

    Wouldn’t want there to be two sets of rules.

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    Derelict says:

    The real wonder is that Tancredo did not begin shouting racial epithets. He was so worked up repeatedly yelling “La Raza!!!” while Sanchez was trying to talk that I figured we were only seconds away from him blurting out something like, “Shut you, you stupid spic!”

    However, on balance, I think it’s great that Tancredo is given a platform. The more people see of that kind of behavior coming from a Republican elected official, the more they will associate that kind of vicious bigotry with Republicans in general. And only massive public disapproval of such attitudes will ever convince the GOP to eschew bigotry.

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    Napoleon says:

    (Vin Diesel and Bob Barr notwithstanding).

    Are they both African-American? That is news to me.

    PS, but at least I figured out Mariah C. was AA

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    DougJ says:

    Are they both African-American?

    No one knows. That’s the point.

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    Napoleon says:

    @DougJ:

    Well it did cause me to go to Barr’s Wiki page. He actually has an interesting personal history.

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    less is more says:

    Atheist bigot. I want Obama impeached, now for crimes committed while he has been president. wimpy Joe isn’t my idea of a president but…..
    You got 5 pro big business, pro religion, pro big church, pro life, pro big universities, never met a government law that didn’t meet their approval legal jackals that hate anyone below the top 1 percent catholics on the supreme court, you have exactly 5 more catholics than i have any use for.

    I don’t give a damn if their new catholic is proven to be buddha’s mom, I don’t want her or any more of her coreligionists involved in the supreme court.

    Obama, you are a lying, thieving, murdering, legalistic piece of Illinois crap lawyer.

    You think you got them redneck hicks treed, well, I’m gonna tell them that you are going to turn catholic as soon as your justice is approved and then you are going to revoke the keep and bear arms law and appoint the pope to run the economy and, oh, to pay for it all, other religions will be taxed at 10 per cent of the gross. The right wing will reach sub orbit in about 10 minutes. Impeachment won’t even be really discussed. You will be impeached for being catholic. You can lie and smirk and prance but they are not going to let you convert from Muslim to catholic. Ironic hey.

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    wilfred says:

    @r€nato:

    Oh, bullshit. Obama, the master politician as we never stop hearing, never once thought to ask. Just like Bush never once asked Alito. Give me a break.

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    Scott says:

    It does take a special brand of stupid to vent your anti-Hispanic views in front of a Hispanic news anchor…

    I think that a big reason that anti-Hispanic bigotry has failed to light things up for the GOP is because Hispanics are growing so quickly as a population. Everyone knows, lives near, or works with Hispanics, and it’s hard to maintain the necessary level of raging hate about your officemate who hosts the Super Bowl party every year.

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    KCinDC says:

    The Bob Barr thing is that he looks like Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

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    JGabriel says:

    less is more:

    … you have exactly 5 more catholics than i have any use for.

    Oooh, I haven’t seen any good, eliminationist, anti-catholic rants (excluding Bob Jones University) since Kennedy ran for president. Thanks for the memories.

    .

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    MikeJ says:

    Proof that atheists can be every bit as stupid as theists.

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    El Cid says:

    By the way, his name is pronounced “Tanker-Dough”, since an Italianate pronunciation would be un-American, just like it’s properly American to pronounce the nominee “SOda-myer”.

  38. 38
    Scott says:

    I give “less is more” about five years, maybe less, before he’s howling the fire-and-brimstone from a pulpit somewhere.

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    El Cid says:

    FWIW, I too would rather be living in a world in which it was seen as the norm for Supreme Court jurists to be non-theists than supernaturalists, and I certainly hope that beliefs about the supernatural play zero or as little possible role in any nominee’s or jurist’s decisions on the Court.

    But this is still a world in which things aren’t as I prefer or as they ought to be and very well could be, in which case I think Sotomayor appears to be mainly within the moderate liberal tradition and not the Catholic / evangelical nut squad movement as pushed for the last 30 years by the Republican Party of the Dixie Confederate Baptist Uprisin’.

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    @PeakVT: A frequent commenter here set up this blog to explain the blockquoting at BJ

    … that hate anyone below the top 1 percent catholics on the supreme court, you have exactly 5 more catholics than i have any use for.

    Whoa. As a confirmed atheist myself I’m not sure I actually give a shit how many RC’s they have on the bench. Most of the RC’s I know are pretty decent people and are not rabid pro-life ideologues. As a matter of fact the RC church in the US has a history of social outreach–without proselytizing, I might add–that continues to this day. As an institution I do have problems with the theology, but I see no point vilifying a rank and file member of the faith.

    Oh, bullshit. Obama, the master politician as we never stop hearing, never once thought to ask. Just like Bush never once asked Alito. Give me a break.

    Asking the question and receiving an answer are two seperate things. But it would not surprise me if the question was, or was not, asked. What would surprise me is if Sotomayor answered the question. Anyone who would answer that sort of question–even from the POTUS who may nominate them–is not worthy of sitting on the Supreme Court. I suspect during the vetting process, which would include interviews of those who know her professionally and personally, they have a pretty good idea of her views on most issues. They have a fairly extensive base of knowledge based on her years on the bench that gives them an idea of her approach to the law. However, no one really knows exatcly how she might rule on a given case with regard to Roe v. Wade or any other “liberal” litmus test.
    .

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    Surly Duff says:

    But if you’re going to object to the politicization of the Supreme Court you’d better go on record right now and promise that you will never, ever participate in similar things when it’s a Republican president picking someone or a Democratic one who has no doubt that his/her choice passes the (gasp!) litmus test of the Democratic voters.

    Only the merits, decisions, qualifications, etc., etc., etc

    Complete and utter bullshit. I don’t recall any arguments against Alito’s or Robert’s intelligence, background, or gender. Instead, the discussion and questions focused on their previous judicial experience, their decisions, and how they would make decisions. Included in those questions was the “litmus test” or their potential rulings in abortion/pro-choice cases. That seems like discussing merits, qualifications, etc.

    So far the questions regarding Sotomayor have been about -her intelligence or lack there of (By the way, this amuses me to no end. The right spent the last 8 years touting the academic qualifications, i.e. attending Ivy league schools, of their leader and then just 5 months later questioning the intelligence of a woman who graduated summa cum laude from an Ivy league school), her bench demeanor (angry woman!!), the color of her skin, her dietary choices, her empathy, and the magical percentage of rulings overturned. Yes, those are exactly the same. Nothing like good false equivalencies in the morning.

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    JL says:

    TGIF! Sotomayor’s views are important to me and during the hearings I’ll be paying attention. Obama did ask her views on privacy and he was satisfied with her answers.
    What the hell is less is more drinking? Did BOB finally have a breakdown and start ranting as less is more?

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    JL says:

    @Scott: Maybe the commenter is interviewing for a show on FOX.

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    Dork says:

    Holy carp. Now the crazies have thrown Hatch, Lindsey Lightloafer, and John Freakin Cornyn into the liberal pile:

    So was Hispanic Mr Estrada. I don’t remember Cornyn running into his defense against vicious Democrat attacks. But then again Estrada was not “a Latino woman with richness of her experience (whatever that means)” and of course he was not liberal. I am sick and tired of these hacks like Hatch, Collins, Snowe, Powell, Grahamnesty and Cornyn. They are cowards. Puppets of the DNC and drive by media. Don’t they know that nobody believes the drive-bys these days??????

    Gives the obvious tell of a Limbaugh listener, natch.

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    JL says:

    @Dork: The Republican party gets smaller every day.

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    Napoleon says:

    @The Grand Panjandrum:

    What would surprise me is if Sotomayor answered the question.

    Me too, but Obama really does not need to ask her directly about it. Since Roe is law so long as she has a strong belief in Stare Decisis she should uphold it. So if I am Obama I ask her about Stare Decisis. The unspoken understanding between them when talking about it would be that they really are talking about Roe.

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    SLKRR says:

    @The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge:

    Well, I finally looked her up, and mirabile dictu, her name is Michaela Conlin, and according to her bio she’s Chinese and Irish! Jeebus fucking McCree, she’s hot, though! Any race-mixin’ you want to set up, if she’s in the mix, I’m fine with that!

    Try googling for Sabrina Sato Rahal – she’s Japanese/Swiss/Lebanese/Brazilian. Careful, however, because some photos may be NSFW.

  48. 48
    AhabTRuler says:

    A frequent commenter here set up this blog to explain the blockquoting at BJ

    Yeah, problem is that it only works about 10% of the time. Explain that.

  49. 49
    GregB says:

    I’m a little suspect of Congressman Tom.

    I mean he has the word Tan in his name.

    Could be some miscegenation in his background.

    -David Duke

  50. 50
    Punchy says:

    Why should I bring my A game to deal with your pedestrian wanking?

    Why oh why cant this be a brawl between Krista and Laura, to be settled by a wet t-shirt tickle fight?

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    Rey says:

    I always wondered about Bob Barr having some “negro” deep down in his family tree. I wouldn’t doubt it, he is from Georgia. Same thing with Elvis Presley, his beloved mother Grace looked like my great-great Aunts who were Black but definitely could have passed for White back in the day.

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    angulimala says:

    That’s like saying there should be a shared WASP consciousness among Americans, Canadians, English people, New Zealanders, etc.

    You’re not in touch with the Hive-Mind?

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    bob h says:

    I assume that Obama closed his interview with Sotomayor with something like the following: “You understand, Sonia, that accepting my nomination will bring down on your head a torrent of vile, racist, and mysogynistic abuse from the Republican/Beltway/Media creepshow”?

    I assume that there is enough South Bronx in her to get her through.

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    SGEW says:

    re: Bob Barr

    Ta-Nehisi covered this a while ago.

  55. 55
    BDeevDad says:

    In psychology, they call it projection.

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    AhabTRuler says:

    I assume that there is enough South Bronx in her to get her through.

    The bridge is over?

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    .
    This would never have happened if we hadn’t let in those Italians with their racist Mafia, which excludes and discriminates against non-Latins, and works to infiltrate every level of government and industry, forcing our innocent children to eat pizza!
    .

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    AkaDad says:

    La Raza = Too Tan Klan?

  59. 59
    MNPundit says:

    @Anne Laurie: Now if only the Cubans could stop lisping….

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    jrg says:

    No, there isn’t. One can debate immigration and documentation rules without literally villifying everyone who comes to the USA without a green card.

    Brachiator has a point. It’s not fair to the people who are here legally to give illegals amnesty. It undermines the appropriate procedures for entering the country.

    The biggest problem with people like Tancredo, IMO, is the fact that his blatant and transparent racism muddies the waters and makes it hard for people to have an honest discussion about immigration.

    This latest dust-up is further proof that Republicans like Tancredo simply don’t like hispanics: legal, illegal, or otherwise. All Tancredo is trying to do is cover his tracks by accusing others of racism so that when he (legitimately) is accused of racism, he can pretend it’s tit for tat.

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    Dennis-SGMM says:

    The Republicans seem to have lifted Lenny Bruce’s closing line; “Is there anyone I haven’t offended?”

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    @AhabTRuler:

    Youd better change what comes out your speaker
    Youre better off talkin bout your wack puma sneaker
    Cause bronx created hip-hop, queens will only get dropped

    Still a great track. :)

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    IndieTarheel says:

    It’s pretty clear, to his credit, that the CNN anchor, Rich Sanchez, is having none of this tomfoolery. And I have to question the wisdom of going on an anti-Latino tirade….with an anchor whose parents came over from Cuba.

    Oh, he knows exactly what he is doing. This is red-meat time, choice t-bone steakery for the base. The fact that he gets pushback from some cat named Sanchez is just gravy. And not that detritus you get from pouring water over the cheap stuff either. We’re talking primo, first-class dining here.

    Which is pretty damned elitist, when you think about it.

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    Persia says:

    @kay: Absolutely not. We’re a meritocracy after all.

    (We just believe being white and male are merits.)

    @The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge: To continue with the OT, I love her. Angela and Bones and their awesome friendship are totally the reason I watch the show.

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    […] the wall, only to come back and cover themselves with it. There’s crazy Tom Tancredo with his “KKK without the hoods” comment. There’s all the other racist stuff, including the surrealistic one by some […]

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    Krista says:

    Why oh why cant this be a brawl between Krista and Laura, to be settled by a wet t-shirt tickle fight?

    But we’ve already DONE that. You mean you missed it? Pity.

    Besides, now that I’m all preggo and stuff, it probably wouldn’t be anywhere near as alluring…unless you’re into that kind of thing.

    A frequent commenter here set up this blog to explain the blockquoting at BJ

    It’s still very sketchy. And it does not allow for strikethroughs within a blockquote. Were it only one or two people saying that the HTML is wonky, then yes, I’d say that it is likely their problem — that they must have made a mistake somewhere. But when you have the vast majority of people here saying that it’s just not working right, then I don’t think the problem is with the users — it’s with the programming.

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    Parhelion says:

    Saying that they hate each other is the same as assuming that Mexican-Americans in border towns in Arizona should give a shit because Sotomayor is…what? Latina? Maybe they don’t give a shit either way.

    Speaking as someone who has quite a bit of Mexican-American and Native American blood, I might not care if no one else did. But when, right out of the box, Sotomayor is dissed because of how she pronounces her name and what she likes to eat, you’d better believe I give a shit. If those folks say such stupid stuff about a woman of Puerto Rican background, I know they’re happy to say that same sort of stuff about people like me. I guess this is yet another case where critics are creating and maintaining the hispanic identity in which they claim not to believe.

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    John D. says:

    @wilfred:

    So Tancredo is a racist asshole; hardly a revelation. But if you’re going to object to the politicization of the Supreme Court you’d better go on record right now and promise that you will never, ever participate in similar things when it’s a Republican president picking someone or a Democratic one who has no doubt that his/her choice passes the (gasp!) litmus test of the Democratic voters.

    You know what? I’ll take that deal, if you’ll agree to sit down, shut the fuck up, and stop drooling all over my screen.

    I remember the objections to Bork, I was of voting age when THAT litlle brouhaha hit. His problem was not that he has a funny name, or a weird diet — it was that he was a nutbar of the highest order IN HIS LEGAL REASONINGS. Thomas was a lightweight, in that I got almost no sense of the man from any of his written opinions from the brief time he served on the Circuit Court. Scalia only served four years on the Circuit Court and was a very staunch opponent of the “living constitution” concept, which places him in the “fucking retarded” bin in my opinion (Go ahead, try and use 18th C. concepts to handle 20th C. situations that HAVE NO PRECEDENT. Seriously.)

    I’m tired of shitheads like you claiming that opposition is politically motivated when I have good and true reasons that have zip to do with personalities and everything to do with their ability to DO THEIR JOB. Learn the difference.

    But, as I said earlier, sit down and shut the fuck up. You’re tiresome, inane, and worthless.

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    AhabTRuler says:

    And it does not allow for strikethroughs within a blockquote

    test

    test

    Almost. I have found that if you use the [s] tag, it will drop it inside the blockquote, but if you use the more formal [strike] tag, it will retain.

    Edit: And I was right! Your [p] tags are, however, fucked. Can’t help you there.

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    @Persia: Thirded. I have issues with the season just past, but overall BONES is an awesome show, with actually interesting characters (esp. on the female side)

    (sorry to derail, DougEFreshJ

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    Kris says:

    @DougJ:

    Vin Diesel has been confirmed black. I would highly recommend folks subscribe to Jet magazine if you are wondering who is black.

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    wilfred says:

    @John D.:

    And you’re a fucking sheep, if you’re not fucking one. You just can’t deal with someone breaking up the group fuck that passes for dialogue around here.

    if you can’t see that the problem is politization of the process whoever does it then the only difference is that the cum stains from you colleagues end up on the left side of your face.

    Or in the case of your middle of the road tediousness, deadd center.

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    Xenos says:

    Wilfred is concerned that the political process that decides who gets to be a judge has been politicized.

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    Mr Furious says:

    @AkaDad:

    La Raza = Too Tan Klan?

    FTW.

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    John D. says:

    @wilfred: So I give you reasons why I opposed 3 of the fairly recent Republican nominated Supreme Court justices that had to do with their ability to do their job, and you call it politicization. Got it.

    I’ll move your counter from “Fucking annoying useless wanker” to “Goddamned idiot can’t even parse a sentence written in English”.

    Aren’t you supposed to be sitting down and shutting the fuck up now?

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    Brachiator says:

    @JGabriel:

    No, there isn’t. One can debate immigration and documentation rules without literally villifying everyone who comes to the USA without a green card illegally.

    Fixed.

    If you are truly concerned with illegal immigration you need to vilify the people who hire them. No demand = no supply (or a heck of a lot less).

    Or, I can choose not to vilify anyone, while acknowledging that illegal immigration is a serious issue. I don’t begrudge people who come here because they need to work. And I live in Southern California, which is bathed in hypocrisy when it comes to employing illegal immigrants. Hell, the LA Times recently ran an article which contained a piece, written by a minister, which suggested that Westside liberals should not feel guilty for exploiting illegal immigrant nannies and household workers. Meanwhile, free market libertarians dance on the head of philosophical pins talking about open immigration policies while they employ illegal immigrants so that they can pay the lowest wage that they can get away with, and fire workers who complain, since they can easily be replaced with more recent arrivals.

    This latest dust-up is further proof that Republicans like Tancredo simply don’t like hispanics: legal, illegal, or otherwise. All Tancredo is trying to do is cover his tracks by accusing others of racism so that when he (legitimately) is accused of racism, he can pretend it’s tit for tat.

    Bingo.

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    Adrienne says:

    @AkaDad:

    La Raza = Too Tan Klan?

    FTW.

    Hey JC. I think this definitely goes into straight into the running for best comment of the year. I know it’s only April, but we gotta point them out when we see them.

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    @wilfred:

    You’re kinda right in that the left would turn on Sotomayor in a heartbeat over certain issues, if it were called for.

    But …. that’s sort of stating the obvious. And not that good a job of picking your fights.

    You should leave stating the obvious to the better qualified, like me. I would think that this would be obvious.

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    PeakVT says:

    @The Grand Panjandrum: I tried that and the [p] tags were stripped out. Oh, well.

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    @wilfred:

    You are the Rush Limbaugh of the Curmudgeon Party.

    Which I founded here, by the way. You are giving angry white males a bad name.

    Could you please put out some donuts at your cubicle and just be nice for a while?

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    Interrobang says:

    I’m going to be snarky here and ask: What the hell kind of name is “Tancredo,” anyway, that he gets off making comments about people being all funny and immigranty and stuff?

    Speaking as a bona fide member of the WASP Hive Mind (I couldn’t possibly have a WASPier name if I worked on it, thanks Mom and Dad!), he sounds kind of like one of those types we used to politely refer to as “ethnic” to me…

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    Who was the biggest fool in the last 48 hours?

    Tancredo, or Roland Burris?

    I can’t decide.

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    I forgot to include this upthread when I commented earlier.

    Undercover of the right

    For some reason this came to mind:

    The race militia has got itchy fingers
    All the way from New York back to Africa

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    horatius says:

    Who’s this assclown closet-homo wilfred and what is he doing on this site?

  85. 85

    @horatius:

    We’re all just working on our issues.

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    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford says:

    @horatius:

    “…what is he doing on this site?”

    Practicing his rough trade.

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    SGEW says:

    @horatius: WTF kind of statement is that? Responding to a commenter you don’t like with a phrase like “closet-homo” is some seriously grade A bullshit.

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    Cris says:

    @wilfred: All I see is hypocrisy from all parties involved.

    In your first comment, you’re apparently seeing hypocrisy in a comment DougJ hasn’t even made yet. That’s pretty convenient.

  89. 89
    bago says:

    @wilfred: Because your B-game never got off the curb?

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    Gocart Mozart says:

    Looks like Tancredo is a WOP, but his surname is obviously meant to be taken ironically . . .

    TANCREDI, TANGREDI: From the first name Tancredo of German origin, consisting of “thanka” = thinking and “rhada” = advise

    http://www.italyworldclub.com/.....ames/t.htm

    Also, can someone tell me how to embed links. Since I am only 50% WASP (my mom was a ferriner) I am too dumb to figure it out myself.

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    @less is more:

    You mean you voted for him because you thought he was the most liberal president to ever succeed to the highest office and now you’re upset that he isn’t?

    What exactly are the crimes he’s committed in the last four months?

    LMAO!

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    Gocart Mozart says:

    Duh, or maybe its German. Again, I am only 50% WASP.

  93. 93

    @InflatableCommenter:

    I can’t either. Perhaps it was John Cornyn? ;)

    There is an abundance of stupidity lately, funny shit!

  94. 94

    it’s tough to keep track of who is Latino and who isn’t.

    Yeah, because when I see a guy with dark hair named Sanchez, I usually come to the conclusion that he must be Scandanavian.

    ;)

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    @Gocart Mozart:

    Thank in German is Danke.

    So I don’t know where you got that “thanka” from.

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    @InflatableCommenter:

    What issues might you have?

    ;)

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    Gocart Mozart says:

    What is “think” not “thank” in German?

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    Also, can someone tell me how to embed links. Since I am only 50% WASP (my mom was a ferriner) I am too dumb to figure it out myself.

    Yeah, it’s a button on the edit menu called LINK. That was really hard, wasn’t it?

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    AhabTRuler says:

    @Little Dreamer: Hey, be kind. I mean, WP has turned your namelink into a liar, so we all have issues.

  101. 101
    Little Dreamer says:

    @AhabTRuler:

    True that, I meant to wipe out that link. ;)

    Done now.

    WP sux!

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    Calouste says:

    @Interrobang:

    All four of Tancredo’s grandparents were most likely born in Italy (although birth and immigation records from that time 1890-1900 are a bit sketchy.)

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    Phoebe says:

    I loved it when he brought up Alito, put on his glasses, and leaned into the screen, blinking blinks of death ray logic.

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    Gocart Mozart says:

    @Gocart Mozart:
    Thank in German is Danke.
    So I don’t know where you got that “thanka” from.

    There is a link right there at #90 idiot. That is where I got it from. Don’t be so obtuse.

    Not that I care for your opinion but every time I try to embed the link, it doesn’t work right. I was wondering what I was doing wrong.

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    LD50 says:

    Why should I bring my A game to deal with your pedestrian wanking?

    I see no evidence that you have an ‘A game’.

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    Little Dreamer says:

    @Gocart Mozart:

    But you stated German origin, which would be Danke, not “thanka”.

    I don’t care where you got the link from, I was explaining that you were not using German.

    If it was German origin, would it not be a name starting with a D?

    You are the one being obtuse, not me.

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    Blue Raven says:

    Would folks please stop saying Vin Diesel and Mariah Carey are black when they are mixed? Diesel is half-Italian. Carey is half-Irish, one-quarter black and one-quarter Venezuelan. For real, gang, I thought the one-drop rule died with the mixed-race marriage laws.

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    asiangrrlMN says:

    Oh, good grief. Yes, if it turned out that Sotomayor was pro-life or anti-gay marriage, I would not support her for the court. You know why? Because I would disagree with those positions, just as I disagree with the positions of Scalia and Alito. I would also be wary because those actually matter to her job on the court, unlike her race and gender. I hate the stupid false equivalency crap that gets spewed. I am with John D. (#68) on this one. All the right can do is bleat about how very Latina she is. That really doesn’t cut it.

    As for the religion thing, I am not pleased that there are six Catholics on the Supreme Court, either, and that they all are Christians. I would like to see one judge who is not religiously-affiliated, but I don’t think that will happen in my lifetime. I wouldn’t mind someone from another religion being appointed (I think a Buddhist Justice would be great), but I’m not holding my breath, either. It’s all about diversity, baby. Qualified diversity, let me hasten to add.

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    SGEW says:

    . . . they all are Christians.

    Ginsburg and Breyer are Jewish, for what it’s worth.

    I would like to see one judge who is not religiously-affiliated, but I don’t think that will happen in my lifetime.

    Souter was as close as we got. Unnoticed in all the Sotomayor ruckus is the fact that we’re losing the strongest pro-secular, wall-of-separation Justice. Le sigh.

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    henqiguai says:

    @AhabTRuler (#69):
    Another part of the problem, with regards to some of the HTML tags not functioning consistently, is that they have been deprecated. It may well be that the editor is not allowing the old deprecated tags.

    Case in point – both &#060s&#062 and &#060strike&#062 have been deprecated and replaced by &#060del&#062, which has the same effect.

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    henqiguai says:

    @Blue Raven (#107):
    But, but, but they are ! This is America dang it ! If the break-point for Native American tribal qualification is 25%, then dang it it can work for African-American !

    So there. Yep, Friday evening and looks like I’m sinking rapidly into full-blown silly.

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    Gocart Mozart says:

    Little Dreamer,

    Jeesus, I google (Tencredo + surname) click the first relevant link, cut and paste, and you bust my balls. Write a strongly worded email to http://www.italyworldclub.com/ if it means that much to you.

    I thought everything on the internet was certified accurate. Now I will have to re-evaluate my life.

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    Gocart Mozart says:

    From http://www.etymonline.com

    tan (v.) as a simple name for a brownish color, in any context, it is recorded from 1888.

    credo c.1175, from L., lit. “I believe” (see creed).

    Therefore, Tancredo is “brown skinned, I believe”

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    Ivan Ivanovich Renko says:

    @Gocart Mozart: You shoulda stuck to weather charts.

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    Gocart Mozart says:

    The snark police are out in force today ! eleventy !
    (I momentarily forgot Balloon Juice’s strict policy on one consecutive exclamation point. My bad.)

    That was central to my point.

    Now address my post!

    Wait, this is not Sadly No! Never mind.

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