Welcome to the nuthouse

Rick Moran has another pretty good take-down of Glenn Beck from the conservative point-of-view:

And this brings us back to the first part of the question that people were asking me; why bother? Beck is an entertainer. He speaks for the little guy. In the large scheme of things he doesn’t matter. Besides, he’s funny. He’s not serious about a lot of the things he says.

All of that may be true. But if you see someone running toward a gasoline dump with a lit match, what would you do? Say, “Ignore him, he doesn’t matter?” Or perhaps, “That’s pretty funny, someone trying to immolate himself.” Or maybe, “Man, this explosion and fireball is going to be so kewl!”

You can argue that I’m an idiot for believing this as many of you have and no doubt will continue to do so. But Beck and others like him, who constantly raise the specter of American doom, of Obama as commissar, the Democrats as Nazis, while imploring listeners to “take the country back” and start some kind of “revolution” are bat sh*t dangerous to the conservative movement.

It’s interesting because most of what he says is right, but also interesting because, as is typical of Moran and his ilk, all that matters is the conservative movement.

But, yes, I think that we are at the point where we should laud conservatives for reaching the conclusion that unabated batshit craziness is a bad thing, even if the only reason they believe it’s a bad thing is that it hurts the conservative movement.

Of course, Rick himself only knows a hack from a handsaw when the wind is southerly, so to speak, as this amply demonstrates:

Meanwhile, our intrepid Somali pirates know they have western liberals on their side as long as they can show that the reason they board ships, terrorize people, take crew members hostage, kill with impunity, and barter for ransom is because they are only acting in “self defense” against rancid capitalists and western governments who allow the practice of dumping and illegal fishing with a wink and a nod. This appeals to many on the left who will now see the problem as a question of “fairness” and will agitate that the president forgoe knocking the stuffing out of pirate infrastructure in favor of a “negotiated” solution. Piracy will continue, hostages will still be taken, governments and businesses will still be forced to pay ransom – but liberals will feel better about the whole thing.

What strikes me most about discussion of the pirates, though, is how thin the line is between the right-wing blog line on piracy and the Georgetown line.






84 replies
  1. 1
    GSD says:

    One would think even the far right idealogues would be a tad suspicious of Glenn Beck. A man who claims to be so concerned about the deteriorating condition of his country that he has announced his first stand-comedy tour.

    Folks, he’s shoving your faces in shit, telling you he’s a rodeo clown and yet you are falling in behind him like he’s a Christ.

    3 months ago the rightwing faithful were utterly contemptuous of then candidate Obama because he was a mere celebrity, now they are lemming marching off to a wingnut Woodstock with tea-bags in hand.

    I don’t understand them at all.

    -GSD

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    Emma Anne says:

    "bat sh*t dangerous"?

    Wingnuts are so cute when they try to swear.

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    Zifnab says:

    It’s interesting because most of what he says is right, but also interesting because, as is typical of Moran and his ilk, all that matters is the conservative movement.

    In all fairness, how do you handle the loons on the left? If you’ve got a bunch of people chaining themselves to pine trees in protest of logging, or picking nuclear power plants in tie-dyed t-shirts, or having a "die-in" in protest of the newest American war, what first goes through your mind?

    If the people are being particularly melodramatic and useless, I can’t help but look at them and think, "Wow are you ever pissing all over my cause."

    Moran’s got his conservative values, and he’s watching them get tied to the back of the Glenn Beck crazy train and dragged through the mud. Beck is doing the most damage to his own movement. It’s natural for movementarians to cringe and feel concern first for the biggest victim of it all. I don’t fault Moran for that.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Beck is an entertainer like the guy that fires himself out of a cannon is an entertainer.

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    John T says:

    What’s Rick talking about, where are these leftists and liberals who are asking for "fairness" for the pirates? I haven’t seen any. This must be one of those "some people say" rhetorical tricks, right? (Feel free to give me the Simple Answers to Stupid Questions treatment)

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    cleek says:

    This must be one of those "some people say" rhetorical tricks, right?

    a.k.a. "strawmen".

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    Dennis-SGMM says:

    Moran’s got his conservative values, and he’s watching them get tied to the back of the Glenn Beck crazy train and dragged through the mud.

    The conservatives bought First Class tickets on the crazy train when they remained silent as some of their most prominent pols kowtowed to Rush Limbaugh. Beck is just the most ostentatious examplar of the paranoid delusions that conservatives have been pushing for years.

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    benvolio says:

    Oh! Nice with the Hamlet reference! "I am but mad north by northwest.."

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    Zifnab says:

    @Dennis-SGMM: Limbaugh is a dick. And a great number of conservative policies have stopped even pretending to be utilitarian or fiscally responsible or whatever. But Beck is just crazy. He could be hawking the conservative line or he could be peddling the ShamWOW. His entire act is just off-the-wall nuts.

    It doesn’t matter what Beck is selling. He’s going to kill the brand all the more by jumping off the walls.

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    NonyNony says:

    @Zifnab:

    If the people are being particularly melodramatic and useless, I can’t help but look at them and think, "Wow are you ever pissing all over my cause."

    I tend to think "WTF is PETA doing this time?", so I can see your point.

    OTOH – I’ve never thought that PETA or even "Earth First" were tapping into something that could lead to nutters blowing up Federal buildings or shooting up cops. Where in my lifetime the loonies on the left have restricted themselves to stupid antics, property damage, and graffiti, I’ve seen the loonies on the right blow up abortion clinics, blow up a Federal Building, and get into firefights with cops.

    So I can see where DougJ is coming from with this. Moran may be seeing the damage that Beck is doing to "his" movement, but he doesn’t seem to be making the connection to the damage he’s doing to the country. Which I’d see as a bigger deal myself, but Moran may not think or or may just not realize that the fallout from Beck’s "rodeo clown" antics may be really, really bad and go beyond just "hurting the movement."

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    The Other Steve says:

    “take the country back”?

    Wasn’t that Howard Dean’s campaign slogan? Does that mean Howard Dean was batshit insane?

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    Dreggas says:

    Gotta love it. It’s like watching the look on someone’s face when they thought they were cultivating clinging ivy they had planted only to discover they planted poison ivy instead.

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    AnneLaurie says:

    In all fairness, how do you handle the loons on the left? If you’ve got a bunch of people chaining themselves to pine trees in protest of logging, or pick[et]ing nuclear power plants in tie-dyed t-shirts, or having a "die-in" in protest of the newest American war, what first goes through your mind?

    What first goes through my mind is an impulse to kick them, which I manage not to broadcast. I certainly don’t run to the microphones or the intarwebs to share the drama queens’ latest performance art with as many people as possible, nor do I proclaim them "the angry face of Real America" until it dawns on me (belatedly) that my allies have started a circus and now we all look like clowns.

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    The Other Steve says:

    I’m pretty certain Glenn Beck is acting crazy to get ratings. The guy started his career as a comedian.

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    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford says:

    @John T:

    This piece by Johann Hari is what they’re talking about.

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    AnneLaurie says:

    It’s like watching the look on someone’s face when they thought they were cultivating clinging ivy they had planted only to discover they planted poison ivy instead.

    … and now they realize they should never have rolled around naked ‘self-pleasuring’ in that ivy bed…

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    Zifnab says:

    @The Other Steve: You know how else started his career in entertainment? Hitler. Just say’n. First to Godwin, I win!

    Seriously, though. Sometimes I wonder if this is how it felt to be a sane German circa 1929.

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    @NonyNony: Actually, PETA does inspire the ALF folks, eco-terrorists and the like.

    The thing is, I’m a vegetarian and while I think people freak out too much about the tongue-in-cheek stuff PETA does, PETA does some crazy shit that makes vegetarians all look crazy.

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    Ian says:

    why bother? Beck is an entertainer. He speaks for the little guy. In the large scheme of things he doesn’t matter. Besides, he’s funny. He’s not serious about a lot of the things he says.

    The same is true of Jon Stewart, and it would be strange to think he has no real-world importance.

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    bvac says:

    I think that the right could have gone either way on this. Had some tiny variable in their brain been different, they’d be siding with the pirates. Obama’s decision to take the lives of three innocent, freedom-loving people patrolling their own coast, killing them with impunity, would be an unconstitutional Nazi-like power grab that we should be very concerned about.

    After 8 years of them accusing Democrats of being sympathetic to terrorists, I figure it’s only a matter of time before they outright support an enemy of the United States, because projecting their own worst traits onto others is WHAT THEY FUCKING DO.

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    AhabTRuler says:

    Ahem. I find that the use of "nuthouse" to be incredibly offensive to those of us with mental health issues.

    The appropriate term is "booby hatch."

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    JayDenver says:

    It’s like watching the look on someone’s face when they thought they were cultivating clinging ivy they had planted only to discover they planted poison ivy instead.

    Leaves of tea, beware of me.

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    Keith says:

    Speaking of the nuthouse, I ran into this spooky little comment. For those who don’t want to click through, basically some guy on Beck’s 9-12 site claims his son is in the Special Forces, and "they’re ready, we’re ready", then practically BEGS the Secret Service and FBI to talk to him about treason by claiming that Obama and Congress are "breathing borrowed air" and "will all hang".

    Keep *that* one in mind next time someone on Fox cherry-picks some DailyKos diary comment as the definitive view of the left-wing movement.

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    peach flavored shampoo says:

    John, that Geek Girls Online ad, that comes close to setting a record for showing the most amount of skin sans boobs, butt, or hoo-hah, isn’t really work-safe. Any chance you can get it to bugger off?

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    Tsulagi says:

    @Zifnab:

    Seriously, though. Sometimes I wonder if this is how it felt to be a sane German circa 1929.

    I think I got a handle on that back in 2002-03 working in the defense industry when Freedom Fries were on the march. Those were weird times.

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    Tonal Crow says:

    Teh Moranism burns something fierce.

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    JK says:

    Glenn Beck is obviously paralyzed from the neck up. Somewhere, there is a straitjacket with his name on it.

    No one can deliver more stupidity in a single hour than Beck.

    The popularity of neanderthals like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Scarborough, Dobbs, Coulter, and Malkin is the strongest sign of the decline of civil discourse and critical thinking in this country.

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    srv says:

    Another victory in the GWoT, Swat Valley enshrines sharia law.

    We would resolve so many problems if we just gave the wingnuts a few states to do whatever.

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    Corner Stone says:

    they’d be siding with the pirates

    Wasn’t this in fact their default position? They may not have been rooting for the pirates, but they were certainly rooting against a successful resolution by our side. Isn’t that the same thing?
    Nothing would’ve made them happier than the Capt either dying after several days of "wussy negotiation" or if he’d been aced in a "horribly mangled" and poorly thought out attempt to rescue him.

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    Ahem

    Oliver Wills pointed me to this Bob Cesca blog post which links to a comment on Glenn Beck’s project 9-12 website.

    http://www.bobcesca.com/blog-a.....wit_1.html

    This has gone way past being funny. It has gotten out of hand and I don’t think Beck could dial it back even if he wanted to. I can only hope the Secret Service is actively monitoring that site.

    edit Dang it Keith beat me to it.

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    Singularity says:

    @ Keith

    Yeah, ol’ Bulldog there is pretty much a psychotic loon. The comment in question has been deleted by the Beck’s admin team, but if you click on Bulldog’s name, you will see that he has been leaving the exact same kinds of comments for weeks now. That kind of pattern is almost assuredly earning him a visit from the Secret Service, and if his son is really a Special Forces operator (which I strongly doubt), then his son is likely being questioned as well. The fact that Beck is encouraging douchebags like this is the biggest reason that he should be an object of public scorn and ridicule. And seriously, people. Please don’t watch his show even if it is mildly entertaining to point at the monkey.

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    KRK says:

    @John T:

    where are these leftists and liberals who are asking for "fairness" for the pirates? I haven’t seen any.

    Well, I’ve seen quite a bit of it, and I don’t even read that many left/liberal/progressive/whatever blogs. This post at Crooks and Liars is based on the Hari piece that Shackleford linked to, and the commenters are more than happy to run with it. Over at Booman’s place, it’s the commenters who are doing all of the "the pirates are forced into it" and "the pirates aren’t really that violent" heavy lifting, over several threads, while Booman tries to talk them down with helpful analogies to a cinematic masterpiece.

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    peach flavored shampoo says:

    Wasn’t this in fact their default position? They may not have been rooting for the pirates, but they were certainly rooting against a successful resolution by our side. Isn’t that the same thing?

    It must be pointed out that a number of radical lefties wanted Bush to fail in Iraq. Wouldn’t go so far as to say they cheered troop losses, but more than a few were pleased to watch Iraq blow itself up in order to demonstrate the idiocy and cluelessness of the pres. at the time.

    I think it’s the default position of the out-of-power party.

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    JenJen says:

    Speaking of the Nuthouse, apparently David Buckner, a professor at Columbia University, passed out during an appearance on Glenn Beck’s Nuthouse today.

    Huff Po story here. Of course with Beck around you have to wonder if there was any air left in the room.

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    bvac says:

    @Corner Stone: That may be how it went down this time, but at some point I imagine they will actively rally for the other side. On domestic policy, any failure is a success for Republicans. Therefore on foreign policy any success is a failure.

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    AnneLaurie says:

    I think that the right could have gone either way on this. Had some tiny variable in their brainthe pirates’ melanin content been different, they’d be siding with the pirates. Obama’s decision to take the lives of three innocent, freedom-loving people patrolling their own coast, killing them with impunity, would be an unconstitutional Nazi-like power grab that we should be very concerned about.

    Fixted.

    It’s a good thing that neither Idaho nor Utah have seacoasts.

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    JenJen says:

    @sgwhiteinfla: That kind of stuff is sounding more and more like McVeigh-talk to me. I think there is certainly a very small, fringe element out there that is dead serious, and should be taken as such, when they write those kinds of things.

    As one of the commenters at the link wrote, if true, that person is writing from a terror cell.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Nuthouse offers up some really disingenuous right-wing BS:

    For Clinton, a man who headed an administration that Buzz Patterson found first hand to have nothing but contempt for soldiers in uniform (Patterson and other military personnel assigned to the White House were ordered not to wear their uniforms), the inability to give the “go” signal was the result of a Viet Nam era distrust and disgust of the mlitary.

    The uniform story was widely debunked, but that means nothing to these buffoons. Nor does that fact that "Buzz" Patterson makes Glenn Beck look normal help this argument. He’s published some really insane crap.

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    joes527 says:

    @Keith:

    Dangerous nutcase or bored-guy-in-his-mothers-basement trolling the crazies?

    Only Poe knows for sure.

    I’m not 100% sure that there are any real right wingers left on the internet. You tell me that they are all trolls and my response would be "Well that certainly makes more sense."

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    JenJen

    I tell you what, I would much rather we take it serious and then be pleasantly surprised when nothing happens than dismiss it as just talk only to have a tragedy. There are too many unhinged people in this country and with the economy in the shitter many of them are just desperate enough to think they have nothing to lose. And the right wing rhetoric to them sounds like a pied piper leading them on their "mission". Sad part about it is with the Pittsburgh cop killings the media had an opportunity to take this issue on head on. Instead by in large they just ignored it and acted like there was no correlation.

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    bvac says:

    @peach flavored shampoo: I’m sure some hyper-partisan bloggers would pimp the number of dead with the knowledge that it reflects badly on Bush, but I’ve never seen a single protester that wanted troops to die just so Bush would have egg on his face. No, most knew that the war was pointless and people were needlessly dying. I think most lefties simply wanted us to GTFO of Iraq before more died on either side. You also have to consider that the "shock and awe" goal of the war was to quickly obliterate their countries’ infrastructure, and this was before any real insurgency existed. So if lefties wanted Bush to fail at destroying a country that did not and could not harm us, thats a far cry from the right wanting Americans to die to show how weak-kneed Obama is.

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    Stefan says:

    This appeals to many on the left who will now see the problem as a question of “fairness” and will agitate that the president forgoe knocking the stuffing out of pirate infrastructure in favor of a “negotiated” solution.

    Pirate infrastructure? Pirate infrastructure is a few huts on the beach, some AK-47s, a few fishing smacks and a couple of outboard motors. For Christ’s sake, my local yacht club has a more sophisticated seagoing infrastructure than the Somali pirates.

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    Stefan

    You are absolutely wrong about that

    http://www.vanityfair.com/poli.....ates200904

    Long but definitely informative

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    JenJen says:

    @sgwhiteinfla: I agree completely. I remember the early Clinton years and the mood in the country right before the Oklahoma City bombing, and it didn’t feel as in-your-face, it’s-OK-to-talk-like-this as it does now.

    There were black-helicopter, anti-Clinton wingnuts in the 90s for sure, but now, it’s moved so easily into prevalence that it has honestly surprised me. I always thought the fringe would come at President Obama from the racial angle, but instead they’re coming from a place that is sort of mainstreaming even more outrageous crazy-talk and making it acceptable.

    We can really only trust that law enforcement is keeping as close an eye on domestic internet terror threats as they do foreign ones.

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    bvac says:

    @Stefan: Come on, you’re ruining right-wing fantasies of a pirate version of this: http://www.edwardjayepstein.co.....rpopup.gif

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    jonas says:

    Piracy will continue, hostages will still be taken, governments and businesses will still be forced to pay ransom – but liberals will feel better about the whole thing.

    WTF? As opposed to the wingers, who will simply feel better knowing that brown people somewhere are getting bombed? As long as Somalia is a failed state with no effective government or economy and a population on the brink of starvation, poor villagers along the coast will resort to piracy. That’s not romanticizing — that’s reality. Blowing up a bunch of their ports will 1. kill a lot of innocent people; 2. piss off a whole nation of people who already don’t like us and are sympathetic to the message of radical jihadist Islam; and 3. delay further pirate attacks for about as long as it takes to buy some new boats. But hey, advocating missile strikes rather than an internationally-coordinated plan of economic and political intervention to actually solve the problem proves you have a huge cock, right? Victor Davis Hanson has to walk around with a wheelbarrow in front of him just to carry his.

    I’ve never understood conservatives whose whole political identity rests in an abiding anger over 9/11 and an unquenchable desire for vengeance against those responsible, but who nonetheless think that if we drop a bunch of bombs on them, their reaction is going to be to cowering submission to the awesome power of America. No. Like you, they will become eternally pissed off and spend a lot of time and effort figuring out a way to get revenge. But since they don’t have a globe-spanning navy or airforce, they will use this thing called "terrorism" to even the score.

    But as long as it provides further pretext for bombing brown people, bring ’em on, right?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    What’s Rick talking about, where are these leftists and liberals who are asking for "fairness" for the pirates?

    I’ve been slightly on that bandwagon, at least to the point of, "Well, the pirates in Somalia haven’t been killing ship’s crews outright like the pirates in Asia have been, so it’s probably a good idea to try and negotiate so we don’t escalate things."

    It’s like arguing that Mussolini was slightly less reprehensible than Hitler. Sure, he killed a lot of his enemies and did a lot of horrible things, but he wasn’t all that enthused about sending Italian Jews to the concentration camps — they didn’t start being sent in large numbers until Mussolini was deposed and assassinated.

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    milo says:

    For Christ’s sake, my local yacht club has a more sophisticated seagoing infrastructure than the Somali pirates.

    I can just picture ’em in their Breton reds shimmying up a rope with an AK slung over their shoulder with their Hinckley Picnic boat alongside a moving steel ship in the open ocean. Do they wear scrambled eggs on their bills?

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    Raenelle says:

    My memory is that, after the 1994 elections, Democrats were back on their heels pretty badly. Clinton’s downslide began to turn around–I could be wrong, but it’s the way I remember it–after Oklahoma City.

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    Tax Analyst says:

    AhabTRuler
    Ahem. I find that the use of "nuthouse" to be incredibly offensive to those of us with mental health issues.
    The appropriate term is "booby hatch."

    But isn’t that potentially offensive to people who have…er…"boobs"?

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    Rainboskies says:

    AnneLaurie.." think that the right could have gone either way on this. Had some tiny variable in their brainthe pirates’ melanin content been different, they’d be siding with the pirates"

    See, when someone brings up race or "melanin content" in a discussion, it speaks volumes of their ignorance.

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    JK says:

    Which of the following would be a bigger selling bumper sticker?

    Welcome to the Nuthouse – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    So Much Stupid – Palin/Bachmann 2012

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    AhabTRuler says:

    @Tax Analyst: Although some crazy people are complete tits as well, 80085 =/ booby (blue-footed or otherwise)!

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    Cris says:

    @JK: Welcome to the Nuthouse – Palin/Bachmann 2012

    "You wanna get nuts? Come on! Let’s get nuts!"

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    JenJen says:

    @sgwhiteinfla: Also, April 19th is nigh. Lots of nutter history on that day, unfortunately.

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    Ash says:

    I wouldn’t say anyone is asking for "fairness" for the pirates. More along the lines of asking for some understanding and empathy since, you know, their country is a shithole and one seems to give a damn about helping out.

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    Rosa says:

    it is strange that any sort of appeal to context gets automatically cast as liberal nutjobbery, especially on a post about conservative nutjobbery…but anyway, I am curious to see where the parties differ on how to solve the piracy issue. I saw a great story about possible solutuions, worth a peek http://www.newsy.com/videos/so.....e_problem/

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    randiego says:

    @NonyNony

    OTOH – I’ve never thought that PETA or even "Earth First" were tapping into something that could lead to nutters blowing up Federal buildings or shooting up cops. Where in my lifetime the loonies on the left have restricted themselves to stupid antics, property damage, and graffiti, I’ve seen the loonies on the right blow up abortion clinics, blow up a Federal Building, and get into firefights with cops.

    This is about right. Anytime some "sane conservative" like Moran starts talking moral equivalence between right and left is where I call bullshit.
    .
    If you don’t think beck and the others can do some damage, I say think again. From the wikipedia page on the Rwandan Genocide:

    According to recent commentators the news media played a crucial role in the genocide: local print and radio media fuelled the killings, while the international media either ignored or seriously misconstrued events on the ground.[6] The print media in Rwanda is believed to have started hate speech against Tutsis which was later continued by radio stations. According to commentators anti-Tutsi hate speech “became so systemic as to seem the norm.”

    If you don’t think we can get there from here, you are mistaken.

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    JK says:

    I’m revising my previous post, to include other choices.

    Which of the following would make the best bumper sticker?

    Let’s Go Crazy – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    Welcome to the Nuthouse – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    So Much Stupid – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    It’s All Over Now – Palin/Bachmann 2012

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    les says:

    @Zifnab:

    In all fairness, how do you handle the loons on the left? If you’ve got a bunch of people chaining themselves to pine trees in protest of logging, or picking nuclear power plants in tie-dyed t-shirts, or having a "die-in" in protest of the newest American war, what first goes through your mind?

    I think, man, I’m glad those yahoos aren’t on national tv. Or running a national party. Etc.

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    What’s Rick talking about, where are these leftists and liberals who are asking for "fairness" for the pirates?

    I’m asking for fairness for them. What’s fair for violent criminals is arrest and prosecution. If they happen to get killed in the commission of their violent crimes, that’s unfair. Slightly.

    Now, I have also expressed a certain amount of sympathy for them, given the predations of Somali territorial waters that are going on. I think that the self-righteousness of a lot of the people attacking them, who don’t seem at all bothered by illegal toxic waste dumping or overfishing is misplaced. Realistically, I’m not sure what anyone expects to happen under these circumstances. I’m not crying over the death of the pirates, though.

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    Cris says:

    @JK:
    How about:
    Stupid Like A Fox – Palin / Bachmann 2012

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    Cris says:

    @NonyNony: Where in my lifetime the loonies on the left have restricted themselves to stupid antics, property damage, and graffiti, I’ve seen the loonies on the right blow up abortion clinics, blow up a Federal Building, and get into firefights with cops.

    I don’t know when your lifetime started, but the SLA and the Weathermen weren’t really that long ago. I’m not saying that there’s much potential for left-wing anti-establishment violence these days, just that it’s not that far outside our recent national experience.

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    AhabTRuler says:

    @JK: A Pair of Republican Boobs for the White House – Palin/Bachmann 2012

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    Bill Teefy says:

    Again it is good to see Glenn identified for what he is. But Moran is still clinging to his conservative values is American values hope.

    @Zifnab:

    In all fairness, how do you handle the loons on the left?

    I feel you. Loons is loons and they only help in making the rest of us not look so insane.

    My biggest beef is where are the Lefty Loons who own a whole media empire. I know conservatives love to paint the media as lefty but it is ridiculous. You might be able to make a case that many journalists are left but they are not the owners, editors, and certainly not the headline writers and OpEd columnists in major newspaers.

    Glenn Beck has a show. People pay him a lot to reach a lot of people. Who on the left is that looney that has a show. If you read comments on Moran’s site they would say Olbermann but that is only because he makes them mad. He can be a bit over the top but he never descended in Bush has a secret army of zombies territory. I thought it was funny the other day they were ripping on KO because he had talked about the "assassins" controlled by Cheney while he was VP. He discussed it because it was in the news not because it was under his bed. And righties would have loved the story if it was on 24.

    Olbermann didn’t gain any traction and did not really start attacking Bush until Bush really proved he was a Complete FAILURE. Beck acts like Obama is Stalin after only 10 weeks in power.

    The traditional media has its lefty spokesmen no doubt. Like if they want a black perspective they talk to Al Sharpton. Or if they want to show how the left feels about America they showcase War Churchill. Nobodies who can be counted on to say something worthy of being mocked. These people don’t have any show. No star power. They’re props for the narrative that lefties are nuts.

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    Bill Teefy says:

    @AhabTRuler:
    I think it can be simplified…
    .
    A FINE PAIR
    Palin/Bachmann 2012

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    HitlerWorshippingPuppyKicker says:

    The real Rick the Moran is the guy who wrote the second blurb in the top post.

    Always has been, always will be. His rant about Beck is nothing more than looking down his nose at a compatriot whose style embarrasses Rick. It’s not about discovering reality.

    That second blurb is the one that really describes Rick. You don’t have to believe me, you can go back and read his large body of posts to this very blog 4-5-6 years ago. The guy is basically a polite Darrell. John probably won’t agree, but I will stick with this appraisal of Rick.

    There’s a reason why I call him Rick the Moran. And it isn’t a play on words.

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    John PM says:

    @Bill Teefy: #66

    Building upon your very fine suggestion:

    Palin/Bachmann 2012 – A Teabaggers Delight.

    Palin/Bachmann 2012 – Some fine T&A (Tradition & Acumen)

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    JK says:

    @Cris, @AhabTRuler, @Bill Teefy

    Great suggestions folks. Keep ’em coming.

    The comedic potential for a Palin/Bachmann ticket would be infinite. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert would need to expand their shows to an hour each to fit in all of the jokes.

    A Palin/Bachmann ticket would be the best thing that could happen to this country, provided that they lose of course.

    Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O’Reilly would get so excited they’d choke to death on their saliva.

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    r€nato says:

    I’m pretty certain Glenn Beck is acting crazy to get ratings. The guy started his career as a comedian.

    pretty certain?

    it’s 200% certain it’s an act. Trust me on this one. Most of your local hate-radio program hosts are just poor schmucks trying to make a buck in the extremely competitive world of radio.

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    Kathy in St. Louis says:

    There is not a doubt in my mind that Glenn Beck will self-destruct within the next 18 months. He is frighteningly close to the edge right now. His mother committed suicide, his brother, also. He has a history of drug and alcohol abuse and is some sort of religious fanatic. I don’t feel as if I’m going out on a limb by predicting that he will do or say something on air soon that will either cause someone to do something so violent that he will be hounded from the air, or he will just implode onscreen before the public’s very eyes. Either way, I don’t think we’ll be celebrating his twentieth anniversary on the air….not from the look in his eye, I don’t.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    After some more thought, Beck is an entertainer like the guy that fires other people out of a cannon is an entertainer.

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    JK says:

    @Kathy in St Louis

    I keep my fingers crossed every day hoping you’re right about Glenn Beck self-destructing.

    Beck is a malignant media carcinogen and it would be great to see this slimy, obnoxious SOB’s career go down in flames.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Cris:

    I don’t know when your lifetime started, but the SLA and the Weathermen weren’t really that long ago.

    I was one year old when Bill Ayers left the Weathermen. I vaguely remember the Patty Hearst trial, but there’s only so much of that you can explain to a seven-year-old.

    Frankly, that’s one of the reasons the Republicans are failing so badly right now — they’ve spent decades re-fighting the battles of the 1960s, but a large portion of the electorate just doesn’t care because it all happened before we were born. The Baby Boomers are not quite as consequential as they like to believe.

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    JenJen says:

    Meanwhile, why can’t our President go anywhere without betraying America?

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    Tax Analyst says:

    AhabTRuler
    @JK: A Pair of Republican Boobs for the White House – Palin/Bachmann 2012

    Or…"Knockers sans rockers"

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    TenguPhule says:

    After some more thought, Beck is an entertainer like the guy that fires other people out of a cannon is an entertainer.

    that obnoxious drunk heckler sitting in the stands mocking the professionals at the cannon.

    Corrected.

    No need to insult the circus.

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    DougJ says:

    @benvolio

    I watched a Cary Grant movie last night.

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    DougJ says:

    Palin/Bachmann 2012 – A Teabaggers Delight.

    Glenn Beck at night, teabaggers delight. Joe Scar by morning, baggers take warning.

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    JK says:

    A few more for the road

    Apocalypse Now – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    When the World is Running Down – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    Already Gone – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    The End is Always Near – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    Ignorance is Strength – Palin/Bachmann 2012
    Kakistocracy Now – Palin/Bachmann 2012

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    gil mann says:

    Wouldn’t go so far as to say they cheered troop losses, but more than a few were pleased to watch Iraq blow itself up in order to demonstrate the idiocy and cluelessness of the pres. at the time.

    Yeah, us pinkos used to high-five each other every time a car bomb went off in Ramadi. Thanks for not accusing us of cheering troop losses, though!

    Jesus Christ, PFS, what slanderous bullshit that is. Go fall into a Geek Girls ad.

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    JenJen says:

    @peach flavored shampoo:

    It must be pointed out that a number of radical lefties wanted Bush to fail in Iraq.

    A number of radical lefties? OK, fair enough, provide that number. How many, and who were they?

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