They Must’ve Waterboarded Lawrence Eagleburger

P.a.t.h.e.t.i.c. Most experienced politicos could at the very least come off a little bit better than this. I think Larry Eagleburger should have just stayed away from the media (well, if was Fox, so, you know…) What it comes down to is Eagleburger saying, “I said what I said, and I meant it. Now I don’t mean it anymore.” Thanks to Comrade Stuck in the comments for the pointer. Clown Shoes. Most appropriate tag ever. Transcript of the YouTube for those who can’t see it after the jump.

Eagleburger: You are witnessing something quite unique — a man who’s about to talk to you while he has his foot in his mouth. I made a serious mistake yesterday. I was quoted correctly. I wasn’t thinking when I said it — in fact, I was discussing foreign policy, and this was in that context. And I was just plain stupid. And if I have given the flim-flam artist Barack Obama some success with this, I am deeply apologetic. I did not intend it.

In fact, if you look at this carefully, on the question of experience for example, Sarah Palin has been a governor, she has executive ability, she knows energy issues. Now you tell me what Barack Obama has ever done in the way of executive business, doing anything in the executive field. He has been in the Senate for some two years and he has been there half of the time and seldom votes on issues.

I’m sorry, I made a terrible mistake.






151 replies
  1. 1
    Blue Raven says:

    Yep, they waterboarded him. That or played "My Heart Will Go On" in a constant loop while forcing him to stay awake with a caffeine IV drip.

  2. 2
    TomK says:

    Clearly, the republicans have used both the Imperio and Crucio curses on this poor shell of a man.

  3. 3
    Atanarjuat says:

    In a gleamingly perfect worker’s paradise (the Obama regime), grownups never make mistakes and should never change their minds for any reason.

    Obviously, Larry Eagleburger would never fit into the candy-for-everyone wealth-redistributing utopia that Barack Obama is promising with this teeth-whitened smile, so of course leftists scorn him when his thoughts fail to adhere to the Liberal Hive Mind. Eagleburger should have known better and remain assimilated in the Collective; now he must pay the price.

    Anyway, Eagleburger’s point is completely valid: Governor Sarah Palin does indeed have executive ability, and her knowledge of energy issues far surpasses the feeble index cards that Obama paws for reassurance during his pie-in-the-sky speeches.

    Country First.

  4. 4
    MizLiz says:

    I’d love to know what they said to him to get him to back off so quickly. Must have been a hell of a threat.

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    TomK says:

    I can just see this guy in the mental ward, shuddering "…such a horrible mistake. Such evil…such a horrible mistake…" over and over again while he smears his feces on the wall and sobs. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a republican with a heart attack spray pointed at him while he groveled about how sorry he was that he made such a horrible mistake.

  6. 6
    Michael D. says:

    @Atanarjuat:

    Anyway, Eagleburger’s point is completely valid: Governor Sarah Palin does indeed have executive ability

    Sure, we all have Executive Ability. She just happens to be, well, not so good at it.

    I have running ability. I can run a 15k. I’ve done it. I am always in the bottom rungs, however, also.

    But I can do it.

  7. 7
    Michael D. says:

    By the way, you are a completely shitty spoof. You’re just not doing it right.

  8. 8
    Michael D. says:

    @TomK: Expecto Petronas, baby!!

  9. 9
    Atanarjuat says:

    Michael, I’m not "spoofing," and it’s commendable that unlike most Americans, you actively engage in a healthy lifestyle (unlike most of the lazy and sedentary BJ readership, no doubt).

    As for Governor Sarah Palin’s executive ability being "not so good," bear in mind that she’s very popular in her home state, Alaska. Obviously, most Alaskans are satisfied with her stewardship, partisan vitriol aside.

    Country First.

  10. 10
    Michael D. says:

    @Atanarjuat: You are hopeless. And I engage in a homosexual lifestyle. Thank you for saying it’s healthy. We need more people like you!

    From what I understand, many “useful idiots” are popular in their governance – whether they are state governors or, say, presidents of African Republics.

    Popularity First.

  11. 11
    Conservatively Liberal says:

    Atanarjuat:

    In a gleamingly perfect rich man’s paradise (the Bush regime), grownups never make mistakes and never change their minds for any reason.

    Fix’d.

    I have come to the conclusion that this is myiq2xu. Same shit, different handle. That or it is his goat loving brother. Regardless, what is clear is that this is an ardent goat lover.

    Hi Mikey GoatBoy! Have any recent wild hot goat sex stories for us? Have you heard from phukstain recently?

  12. 12
    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    I don’t believe Eagleburger v. 2.0 and I’m sure few of us here do.

    As for what sort of influence this will have on regular American voters, I can’t even begin to guess.

  13. 13
    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Atanwhatzurname, will you be joining us on Tuesday night so we can watch you publicly weep and gnash your teeth? I look forward to that, I’ve got a whole bunch of popcorn just for that occasion.

  14. 14
    Michael D. says:

    @Conservatively Liberal:

    this is myiq2xu

    Of course. And that is why we have so much fun.

    Although, I will say, I don’t think myiq2xu would have taken on such a MOOOOOOSLIM-sounding handle as Atanarjuat. So, you never know.

  15. 15
    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Although, I will say, I don’t think myiq2xu would have taken on such a MOOOOOOSLIM-sounding handle as Atanarjuat. So, you never know.

    He lies when choosing handles, you know this already.

    I think he was under the impression it would make him sound less racist and more reasonable.

  16. 16
    Michael D. says:

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII: Fuck it. I took Tuesday off. And I am going to the Dekalb Farmers’ Market and buying a shitload of arugula. We’re gonna be tossing some fucking Obama salads in the Demmons household. And you can do all your gay jokes about that. I don’t care.

    I want an elitist in the White House. Obama is smarter than me. He is more educated than me. He knows more than me. THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I WANT IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    As for Governor Sarah Palin’s executive ability being "not so good," bear in mind that she’s very popular in her home state, Alaska.

    I think she’s going to be in for quite a surprise when she returns to Alaska on November 5. The popularity she enjoyed is waning through all the transparency Alaskans finally received.

  18. 18
    ppcli says:

    Spoof-troll Atanarjuat writes:
    .
    "her knowledge of energy issues far surpasses …"
    .
    True, this is a claim that the Palinbots repeat constantly. And our evidence for their claim is? That she was on some regulatory board for awhile and then quit, apparently because she got bored and it wasn’t bigtime enough for her? That she negotiated a sweetheart deal with TransCanada that looks worse the more you look at it? (No slight to TransCanada – I used to work for them, and they may be the best natural gas pipeline transmission company on the continent, even though they are a bunch of furriners. But the deal Sarah signed off on makes little sense.) That she repeats "drill baby drill" at every opportunity, including in front of puzzled workers at a solar energy factory?
    .
    Basically, if Palin really did have a base of knowledge more than slogan-deep about energy, you can be sure she would have done lots of interviews (with the strict rule: energy questions only!) with CNBC business talking heads. Since she hasn’t done that, you can be sure it’s because she can’t.

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    Atanarjuat says:

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII said:

    I don’t believe Eagleburger v. 2.0 and I’m sure few of us here do.

    Of course you don’t believe Eagleburger now. His assimilation into the Barack-Borg Collective failed to complete and he’s now independently thinking again.

    Eagleburger before: Sarah Palin is not ready to assume to assume the responsibilities of Vice Presidency, must less actual Presidency. The Liberal Hive Mind explodes in fist-bumping approval.

    Eagleburger after: Upon reflection and further thinking, Sarah Palin is certainly better prepared for executive decision-making than the flim-flam artist, Obama. The Liberal Hive Mind gnashes its collective teeth and wails to the blogospheric sky with angry indignation.

    See how this works?

    Predictable to a fault.

    Country First.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Fuck it. I took Tuesday off. And I am going to the Dekalb Farmers’ Market and buying a shitload of arugula.

    I will defend your right to freedom of arugula eating to the bitter end!

  21. 21

    larry saw the light — and russia

  22. 22
    Michael D. says:

    Off topic, but Arugula is pretty fucking good. And fairly inexpensive.

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    R. Porrofatto says:

    If being governor for a year and a half of a state with the population of Alaska is sufficient "executive ability" to be president, then the mayor of Columbus, Ohio has got an even better shot at the nomination in 2012.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Of course you don’t believe Eagleburger now. His assimilation into the Barack-Borg Collective failed to complete and he’s now independently thinking again.

    We are not Borg. If any political group depicts Borg these days, it’s the marching in lockstep GOP.

    Eagleburger before: "I’m speaking my mind"
    Eagleburger after: "I spoke my mind and found out I pissed off a bunch of people so now I have to fix what I stated previously"

    See how easy that is?

    Predictable, really.

  25. 25
    Michael D. says:

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII: It must be really late. Can you believe we’re arguing with Atanarjuat? I mean, come on!! :-)

  26. 26
    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Michael, I like arguing with dipshits at 3 a.m. It reminds me of growing up in my fucked up family. ;)

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    Atanarjuat says:

    No one in my family was in the habit of calling each other a "dipshit," CIRCVS, but then again, I never really expected much civility from any liberal, given their penchant for knee-jerk invective and contempt for conservative voices.

    By the way, Michael, I have no demeaning view of the lifestyle you describe, and I do hope that California’s Proposition 8 is defeated as the ignonomous aberration of justice it really is.

    Country First.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Funny Atandipshit, my family were all Republicans, I was the only liberal.

    By the way, would you like some popcorn?

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    Michael D. says:

    @Atanarjuat:

    I do hope that California’s Proposition 8 is defeated as the ignonomous aberration of justice it really is.

    Damn! I kinda like you now.

    No, not really.

    Winning First.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    @Atanarjuat:

    Your calm, reasoned theses and incisive wit over the past days have shown me that my support of Obama has been horribly misguided, and that I should be supporting the Palin/McCain ticket. There’s just one problem: in a moment of regrettable impulse, I have already cast my ballot for That One.

    Do you suppose I can get a do-over?

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    Atanarjuat says:

    Funny, you just proved my point on civility toward conservatives, CIRCVS.

    CIRCVS: "I like arguing with dipshits at 3 a.m. It reminds me of growing up in my fucked up family."
    CIRCVS: "my family were all Republicans"

    Stay classy, my soon-to-be-weeping-on-November-5th friend.

    Country First.

  32. 32
    Michael D. says:

    @Atanarjuat: Just out of curiousity, Do you really think John McCain has a chance in hell of winning on Tuesday? Just asking.

  33. 33
    Atanarjuat says:

    Comrade Scrutinizer, unlike the way that Eagleburger is being shredded by the Liberal Hive Mind for having the audacity to change his mind vis-a-vis Sarah Palin, I, like most right-thinking conservatives, feel that you have every right to change your mind and regret your vote for the Great Wealth-Redistributor.

    After all, John Cole voted for Bush and he has expressed regret afterward, and most people respect him for it. It’s the adult thing to do.

    Country First.

  34. 34
    Michael D. says:

    @Atanarjuat: Are you now admitting that changing one’s mind about Sarah Palin’s fitness for office is a good thing?

    Good for you!!

    Country First!

  35. 35
    Atanarjuat says:

    Michael, Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin have more than "a chance in hell" of winning the Presidential election.

    I realize that the notion of the conservative base being energized to get out and vote in overwhelming numbers is being scoffed at by liberals as wishful thinking. However, consider that more and more Americans are catching on to the socialist scheme that Obama’s tried to disguise as "positive change" for the nation. This is just not partisan puffery on my part; there’s a good reason why the latest Zogby poll has abruptly placed McCain one point above Obama. The sudden change is neither a surprise nor is it an accident, but keep Hope Alive, my liberal friend. You’ll need it come Tuesday.

    Country First.

  36. 36
    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Funny, you just proved my point on civility toward conservatives, CIRCVS.

    Did I really? You assume to understand why my family argued at 3 a.m.?

    I can assure you that it was not I who walked around clinging a bottle of vodka and insisting I wasn’t an alcoholic. It was one of the Republicans.

    My Repub family members are anything but civil.

    By the way, that vodka chugging Republican died of cirrhosis of the liver about four years ago.

  37. 37
    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Just out of curiousity, Do you really think John McCain has a chance in hell of winning on Tuesday? Just asking.

    I’ve been waiting to savor the moments of Schaudenfreude for such a long, long time.

  38. 38
    Redhand says:

    Arrgh, I can’t watch. Reading the transcript was painful enough.

    I used to have some respect for Eagleburger, other than occasionally thinking he looked and acted like the Muppets "Sam the Eagle."

    D’oh not any more. Now he just looks like another Republican As*hole.

    PATHETIC is the right word.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    Alaska is a state that gets back two dollars from the gov for every dollar paid in federal taxes. It also has so much oil money that every resident gets a check for a couple of grand annually. The Governor of Alaska doesn’t have to worry nearly as much about raising revenues or cutting programs to balance the budget as the governors of most other states. The population of the state (607,000) is less than that of a number of cities in the Lower 48. In terms of building executive experience, being Governor of Alaska is much like being Mayor of Disneyland.

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    oh really says:

    There is nothing more boring or less enjoyable than a thread with "fast runner" being a moron in public (I assume he took the name as an allusion to his incredibly runny diarrhea of the mouth).

    I really wish people would just ignore it…unlike a serious disease, one can safely ignore Atanarjuat, it’s not life-threatening (except to those exposed for long periods against their will and then death by ennui is a real risk) and it will go away without additional treatment.

    As for Eagleburger, they did a spine-ectomy, a surgery previously perfected on Senate Majority Leader Reid.

    Now, if the BJ regulars would just perform an Atanarjuatectomy, life would be ever so much better. There is a small risk that the Atanarjuat will die during the procedure, but that is hardly a concern, as it has nothing beyond rudimentary brain-stem function and in all likelihood will feel no pain. In the rare event that it does feel pain, I would appreciate a video, since for some strange reason I suspect that its existence/comfort and my happiness are a part of a zero-sum game.

    In the event any BJ regulars are too weak to perform an Atanarjuatectomy on their own, I recommend a program (similar to methadone/heroin) in which instead of conversing with Ata-boy, the BJ user simply logs onto to Atlas Shrugs to get the needed fix with Total Self-Centered Stupidity. By satisfying your needs privately, you can spare the rest of the world the excruciating pain of having to be constantly reminded that herpes and Atanarjuat both still exist.

  41. 41
    Atanarjuat says:

    Way to go to, lefty. The most effective way to persuade others to ignore me is by invoking my alias repeatedly in the same message.

    My response to you is: "oh really?"

    Better Barack-Borg Drones, please.

    Country First.

    P.S. My response to Michael D’s question is still awaiting "moderation," so please be patient.

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    MR. Bill says:

    Another GA homo with healthy lifestyle here.
    No body sensible thinks the incredibly moderate, cautious Obama is socialist in the sense of the Right’s caricatures.
    I would like to see some radical changes in this country, but will settle for a reality based Administration, that sees all citizens as valuable.
    The whole "worker’s paradise" frame, to suggest Obama is going to impose some sort of intrusive lifestyle changes (instead of slow policy changes) on America is just silly.

  43. 43
    MR. Bill says:

    dang, i’m in moderation again.

  44. 44
    bago says:

    Imagine that, A redistributionist spreading the wealth is popular among those that the wealth is spread to!

    (So sorry for troll feeding, but It’s +6 and I’m cruisin to sleep).

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    linda says:

    kinda makes you wonder what’s in that dossier on eagleburger….

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    MR. Bill says:

    Imagine that, A redistributionist spreading the wealth is popular among those that the wealth is spread to!

    The crazy bit is that tax and fiscal policy has redistrubuted the wealth upward, into a smaller class that increasingly controls larger and larger portions of a shrinking economy.
    We’ve had socialism for the corporations and the wealthy, and of course they don’t want it to get down to the workers..
    "They lived in such luxury, and wouldn’t give up a little of it so we could live decently…."-an old woman touring the palace of Napoleon III after the fall of the Second empire, in Rupert Christiansen’s Paris, Babylon

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    ThresherK says:

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    How badly do you have to screw up to be unpopular, as an attractive woman (in a state with such a preponderance of males), and when you give everyone a check for ~$2300 annually?

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Uh-oh. Lots and lots of negroes voting in Atlanta. I wonder how Team McCain feels about all these people being so willing to wait in line for 10 hours to cast their vote.

    Someone better call in the reinforcements.

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    Conservatively Liberal says:

    @Michael D.:

    @oh really:

    Mikey, I mean Atanarjuat oops, I mean GoatBoy chose his new name because it is about an Inuit love triangle and he is pretending Palin is Atuat.

    I guess it is something other than goats for him to chew on, so I’ll give him points for that.

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    robertdsc says:

    In a gleamingly perfect worker’s paradise (the Obama regime), grownups never make mistakes and should never change their minds for any reason.

    The issue is not that he changed his mind, it’s that he did it so quickly. It took him what, 24 hours, if that? Doesn’t that strike you as even a bit fishy? It’s not like La Belle Palin executed her office in any way in those 24 hours to render Eagleburger’s original comments moot or anything.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    Making several consecutive statements about Palin’s lack of readiness and then calling them a mistake is not at all sinister. It’s just one more example of a Republican putting party before country.

  52. 52
    wilfred says:

    Eagleburger was, is, and will continue to be an asshole. the fact that he sometimes says things you like doesn’t make him any more or less than that.

    Besides, it is going to be a landslide. He and the rest of the pukes are jsut positioning themselves for life on the outside. Palin seems to have found her core niche of hard-core tamponcons and Eagelburger is a bit freaked that his crowd is heading for the political hinterlands for the next generation at least.

    Fuck him, her and the rest of them.

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    anangryoldbroad says:

    Oh there’s GOT to be video of old Larry doing something he’s ashamed of. I’m guessing all it took was 10 seconds of audio played back over the phone and that was that.

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    r€nato says:

    I still say they left a horse’s head in his bed.

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    r€nato says:

    I really don’t understand why y’all are trying to reason with Atanarjuat.

    I welcome his delusions. The longer Republicans deceive themselves like this, the longer the GOP stays in the wilderness. The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. If you don’t do that, you just keep flailing about and wondering why everything is going wrong for you.

    Don’t stop believin’, Atanarjuat.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    @r€nato:
    Eagleburger served briefly as Secretary of State under Bush I. There probably was a phone call and it probably went something like this:
    Eagleburger: "Hello?"
    Bush I: "Hello, Larry. This is George H. W. Bush."
    Eagleburger: "Mister President! What Can I do for you?"
    Bush I: "Well, Larry, some people are pretty upset about those remarks you made about Mrs. Piling, er Palin. Whatever. They want you to take them back."
    Eagleburger: "But, Mr. President, that was my considered opinion."
    Bush I: "Now Larry, I don’t know if you’ve noticed but, that Obama fellow is a negro. If we allow a negro to be president then what’s next, Communists, Free-Thinkers, Unitarians?"
    Eagleburger: "I see. I’ll say that I made a mistake."
    Bush I: "Knew you’d see the light, Larry. My best to your wife."

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    @anangryoldbroad: A Republican … ashamed?

    ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE.

  58. 58

    Michael D. = the Jay Leno of Balloon Juice. For his delivery AND his stellar ability to grasp the obvious–and then act like he’s the anointed repository and revealer of God’s own truth.

    "Didja ever notice how ya always get more kids when you have less candy–and LESS kids when ya got more candy? I mean, what’s up with THAT? Amirite!"

    I’d’ve called him the Megan McArdle of BJ, but that would be a colossal insult — to both parties.

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    r€nato says:

    well Jamey, if you don’t like the quality of the punditry here, nobody is forcing you to stick around.

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    r€nato says:

    …you know, if the GOP truly believed that plumbers were heroes, rather than cynically using them as political props (like they do with our troops), they’d stop fucking them in the ass with Wall Street swindles and they’d work for national health care so that Joe could actually have hope of buying that plumbing business without fear of losing everything because he committed the unforgiveable crime of getting sick.

  61. 61
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    …you know, if the GOP truly believed that plumbers were heroes…

    Those of us who remember the Nixon years would caution Republicans about plumbers .

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    Tattoosydney says:

    Do you think that we will have a couple of spoof troll free days if (when) Obama wins on the 4th? or will they be crying and dribbling all over the threads?

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    Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s says:

    He may have changed his mind…but I’m still glad they waterboarded him.

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    r€nato says:

    I doubt it, Tattoosydney. I forecast a high chance of wailing and gnashing of teeth, with partly whining.

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    Brian J says:

    For a little while, I started to wonder if this was some sort of grand strategy to play people against the media, to drum up the base by pretending people who make a mistake like Eagleburger were misquoted, or basically anything that works to enrage the considerable Republican base, get them to the polls on election day, and squeak by with a win. What else could explain the never-ending gaffes that come from this campaign? No campaign, not even one as well run as Obama’s, is free from mistakes; with an organization that large, it’s impossible to be perfect. But here we are, four days from election day, and we are talking about this, as opposed to why Obama is going to raise my taxes and give all of the money to Ludacris and Rosie O’Donnell–in other words, traditional Republican talking points. Hell, where have Rosie and Barbara Streisand and all of the other Democratic supporters been? I haven’t heard a lot about them recently. They are keeping their mouths shut, while people like Eagleburger are punching another hole in the bottom of McCain’s boat. Man, maybe we are going to win after all.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    @r€nato:

    The working man likes getting raped by Republicans. That’s pretty much what McCain is saying by trumpeting Joe the Plumber with him everywhere: "You see, my friends, even Joe likes it in the ass!"

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    @Tattoosydney:
    Likely there will be a large dose of "Well, I hope you’re satisfied. Now we’re all doomed! Doomed!"

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    How badly do you have to screw up to be unpopular, as an attractive woman (in a state with such a preponderance of males), and when you give everyone a check for ~$2300 annually?

    ThresherK, the checks to Alaskans didn’t start with Sarah Palin and they will continue without her.

    I once knew a guy who moved from Alaska in the early 80’s who told me about the annual payments to citizens. That has been going on for years.

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    Balconespolitics says:

    We are talking about someone who’s on the Board of Directors for Halliburton. Might just have been as easy as reminding Larry that he can get kicked off things, too..

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    Comrade Darkness says:

    Since she hasn’t done that, you can be sure it’s because she can’t.

    The first round of throwing energy numbers into her speech they turned out to be utterly wrong. The only way to make her numbers even close is to allow that she confused total liquids with crude, which is a newbee beginner’s mistake, so she is clearly no heavyweight on energy. Alaska provides less than 6% of the nation’s domestically sourced energy, not 20%. We should hire this person into an administration to solve a major financial crisis and she can’t get this straight? This is her *best* expertise area??

    Eagleburger in his first interview was speaking in his own words. Eagleburger afterward is reading the same talking points the rest of the McCain campaign work from. Pretty indicative. No script. With script.

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    Comrade Darkness says:

    ThresherK, the checks to Alaskans didn’t start with Sarah Palin and they will continue without her.
    I once knew a guy who moved from Alaska in the early 80’s who told me about the annual payments to citizens. That has been going on for years.

    Yes, but Palin increased them by $1200. So it’s not a simple matter of leaving an old policy just sitting there.

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    r€nato says:

    We are talking about someone who’s on the Board of Directors for Halliburton. Might just have been as easy as reminding Larry that he can get kicked off things, too..

    indeed, there’s a reason they call it ‘wingnut welfare’.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Eagleburger was, is, and will continue to be an asshole. the fact that he sometimes says things you like doesn’t make him any more or less than that.

    That’s what I always end up saying about Pat Buchanan.

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    r€nato says:

    Yes, but Palin increased them by $1200. So it’s not a simple matter of leaving an old policy just sitting there.

    taxing the shit out of Big Oil and handing out the money to the citizens = NOT Socialism

    increasing the marginal tax rate to 39.6% on those making over $250,000/yr = SOCIALISM ZOMGWTF!

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Yes, but Palin increased them by $1200. So it’s not a simple matter of leaving an old policy just sitting there.

    That increase isn’t going to go away. If it is, they had better not send her to Washington.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    I really don’t understand why y’all are trying to reason with Atanarjuat.

    I welcome his delusions. The longer Republicans deceive themselves like this, the longer the GOP stays in the wilderness. The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. If you don’t do that, you just keep flailing about and wondering why everything is going wrong for you.

    I agree renato, I just like to watch him make an ass of himself.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Oh there’s GOT to be video of old Larry doing something he’s ashamed of. I’m guessing all it took was 10 seconds of audio played back over the phone and that was that.

    Methinks it was pictures of young naked boys in Eagleburger’s clutches at Bohemian Grove.

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    kc says:

    Yay, y’all finally fixed the blog so the ads don’t cover the posts. ‘Bout damn time.

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    Snarki, child of Loki says:

    Yet another in a long line of republicans that publically say uncomplementary things about GOP officials and candidates, then turn around and retract within 48 hours.

    I’ll make you a bet: it stops right after BushCo stops being in control of NSA’s domestic wiretapping operation.

    There was a reason that BushCo started the illegal wiretaps in early 2001, and it wasn’t to track down bin Laden. No, the targets were much closer to home, and much more potentially damaging to BushCo.

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    gbear says:

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    Atanwhatzurname, will you be joining us on Tuesday night so we can watch you publicly weep and gnash your teeth?

    He won’t be gnashing. The new republican meme is to declare victory no matter how overwhelming the evidence. Found guilty on seven counts? ‘I haven’t been convicted!’. Found guilty of unethical behaviors?, ‘This report clears me completely!’. We’re going to be hearing about the incredible republican landslide from the (real and fake) trolls. It’ll be fun.

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    Atanarjuat says:

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII said:

    I agree renato, I just like to watch him make an ass of himself.

    I’d only be making "an ass" out of myself if I were to overdo the gloating here on BJ come November 5th.

    I can just see the headline in the liberal New York Times: "John McCain Wins. Voices Pride, Humility, and Optimism."

    On the other hand, I do expect a lot of "we wuz robbed!" Diebold conspiracy posts, but I’ll try my best not to point out how it can make the losing side look like a bunch of lame asses.

    So keep those tinfoil hats next to your party hats, lefties. I’m afraid the former will get a LOT more use than the latter after Election Day, guaranteed.

    Country First.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    He won’t be gnashing. The new republican meme is to declare victory no matter how overwhelming the evidence. Found guilty on seven counts? ‘I haven’t been convicted!’. Found guilty of unethical behaviors?, ‘This report clears me completely!’. We’re going to be hearing about the incredible republican landslide from the (real and fake) trolls. It’ll be fun.

    When McCain is not allowed to take the oath of office, can we finally call them on it?

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    gbear says:

    @Atanarjuat:

    See what I mean?

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    So keep those tinfoil hats next to your party hats, lefties. I’m afraid the former will get a LOT more use than the latter after Election Day, guaranteed.

    That’s some funny shit!

    Don’t look at the polls, they might scare you.

    You DO realize that journalists are already writing the McCain Campaign obituaries? Journalists don’t do that when they think it may cause them to lose a paycheck (well, yeah, there was that "Dewey Wins" piece, but, that was an isolated incident).

    Hey Atan… why is the McCain HQ locked up tight in Phoenix? Don’t you think that would be one of the busiest in the country?

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    Comrade Stuck says:

    So keep those tinfoil hats next to your party hats, lefties

    There’s been a recent run on Tinfoil by redstaters. Obama will fix that with his crafty negro hypnosis. Just ask Rush, the Prince of Paranoia.

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    Atanarjuat says:

    gbear said:

    See what I mean?

    What exactly would that be, gbear?

    Not exactly very clear from someone who so clearly told me to "fuck off and die."

    Country First.

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    Comrade Stuck says:

    Senator Ensign has scooped up Eaglesteak’s fumble and is headed for the endzone. Git out yer pitchforks wingnuts, the enemy is about and it is you.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Ensign was already doing that before Eagleburger’s retraction. My guess is they don’t have any fancy pictures of Ensign with little naked boys.

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    MyIQ=2 changed his handle, but not his M.O.

    Does that mean we’ll soon be treated to a bunch of ALL CAPS RANTS from the commenter formerly known as Phucksaiak?

    We can but wait. And hope.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    @Atanarjuat:

    So keep those tinfoil hats next to your party hats, lefties. I’m afraid the former will get a LOT more use than the latter after Election Day, guaranteed.

    This is arguably the funniest thing you’ve written to date, and that’s saying a lot.

    But I’m curious: what do we get in return if your guarantee doesn’t come through? Are you willing to put up anything for this? Or just your pride?

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    Jay C says:

    I was wondering if we should bother making a file of Atanarjuat’s pathetic/comic triumphalist comments to post back at him after Election Night; but then I figured it wouldn’t make any difference: he’ll just change his handle and go on trolling us with "impeachment, baby!" for the next couple of years – while breathlessly forecasting a GOP "landslide" (i.e. +3-4 House seats) for 2010.

    But I think Aj misses the point of Lawrence Eagleburger’s "retraction" – which candidate Mr. E. actually supports is probably, at this point in the campaign, well beside the point. How this quick 180-degree turn looks and plays in the media is way more important that one GOP ex-official’s endorsement. And how this will "play" is, IMO, just par for the course of the McCain campaign: lousily.

    It’s a classic fork: On one hand, Mr. Eagleburger is quoted – widely – dumping on the Party’s candidate: then, amazingly, turns around and – just as widely-reported – changes his mind. So he ends up looking either inept, dishonest, or flip-flopping. And the McCain organization either embarrassed (for the initial critique) or thuggish (for pressuring the retraction).

    Lose-lose. Which should really be Sen. McCains’s official campaign slogan.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    gbear, I understand, even if Atanimajerk doesn’t.

    That comment really should have been addressed to me.

    They can be delusional up until January 20th.

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    Comrade Darkness says:

    My guess is they don’t have any fancy pictures of Ensign with little naked boys.

    He reminds me of Laura Palmer’s father. Brrrrr.

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    Interesting that they didn’t play the actual audio clip of Eagleburger’s gaffe. They lead in to his "correction" with McCain’s GMA appearance with Eagleburger’s words being read by the interviewer. Why not just play the NPR clip? Too confrontational? Oh my, poor Larry gets to grovel a bit then rationalize a completely candid statement. Congratulations to Fox News for not being too tough on Larry the Old Coot.

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    Atanarjuat says:

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII said:

    gbear, I understand, even if Atanimajerk doesn’t.

    I know, because name-calling is a highly intellectual substitute for an actual position, much less an argument.

    Enjoy the rest of the day in your juvenile sandbox, kiddies — I’m off to do some serious adult stuff (you know, work, as in making money). Keep Hope Alive and Loose Change You Can Believe In until I get back later to again help raise the level of discourse around here.

    Country First.

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    Comrade Stuck says:

    Ensign was already doing that before Eagleburger’s retraction. My guess is they don’t have any fancy pictures of Ensign with little naked boys.

    He’s been ragging on Mccain’s poorly run campaign, but until today, unless I missed it, I don’t believe he’s said SP wasn’t fit for VP.

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    katiemc says:

    Call me crazy but I now think that atanarjuat ois one of Thyme Zone’s personas!!!

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    He said it two days ago.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Call me crazy but I now think that atanarjuat ois one of Thyme Zone’s personas

    No katie, TZ would never treat me like that, and his personas are only liberals, not conservatives. He doesn’t do spoof.

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    gbear says:

    Enjoy the rest of the day in your juvenile sandbox, kiddies—I’m off to do some serious adult stuff

    Why is it that trolls always sign off with some stupid comment like this?

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    Comrade Stuck says:

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    I reckon he did at that.

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    Tattoosydney says:

    @gbear:

    Because the whole purpose of being here is to be seen? They can’t just stop commenting – they have to have people know that they have stopped commenting…

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    Tattoosydney says:

    Plus, he is probably sitting at his computer right now, pants around his ankles, waiting for everyone to talk about what an arse he is, so that he can finally achieve the release that he has been unable to achieve because he needed one hand for typing…

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Plus, he is probably sitting at his computer right now, pants around his ankles, waiting for everyone to talk about what an arse he is, so that he can finally achieve the release that he has been unable to achieve because he needed one hand for typing…

    LMAO!

    Must be sad to not be able to experience an orgasm the way NORMAL people do.

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    John S. says:

    I don’t think myiq2xu would have taken on such a MOOOOOOSLIM-sounding handle as Atanarjuat

    Actually, Michael, (I don’t know if anyone already pointed this out) it’s an Inuit name. Atanarjuat was the title of a movie, and it means "The Fast Runner".

    I have no idea how any of that jibes with the inanity that it posts, but I think it is a pretty strong indicator of spoofiness.

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    Tattoosydney says:

    Hurrah! Nate Silver is once again slapping the chicken littles (in which category I include myself, and admit that no matter how much my brain believes that the 4th will be a great day, my heart won’t stop worrying until I see John MCain weep on air….)

    Suppose that Barack Obama were to concede Pennsylvania’s electoral votes. Literally, concede them. Throw ’em back, like a Chase Utley home run at a Cubs’ game. How often would he still win the election?

    89.0% of the time, according to our most recent run of simulation, along with another 2.4% of outcomes that ended in ties. This is because in the vast majority of our simulations, Obama was either:

    a) winning at least 291 electoral votes, meaning that he could drop Pennsylvania’s 21 and still be over 270, and/or
    b) winning at least 270 electoral votes, while already projected to lose Pennsylvania in that simulation run.

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    The Liberal Hive Mind gnashes its collective teeth and wails to the blogospheric sky with angry indignation.

    Please try to be less transparently phony. The doggerel meter is going off the scale here.

    Can’t you at least try to be good at this? There’s a difference between spoof, which is a respectable thing, and vandalism, which is what you are doing both to commentary and to the English language.

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    Tattoosydney says:

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    and the cost of replacing bunged up keyboards becomes prohibitive….

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    Comrade Stuck says:

    On the other hand, Eagleburger made his original comment of the Morning Edition of All Things considered on Thursday. And Ensign’s remark appeared in the evening edition of the LV Sun the same day. So Ensign actually received a handoff from Eaglesteak before being tackled by naked boy pictures. It all makes perfect sense now. And the pitchfork crowd were once again foiled by the Rino.

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    atanarjuat ois one of Thyme Zone’s personas

    I don’t do spoof. I am no good at it.

    Of course, neither is our current timewaster. He’s like a caricature of spoof.

    Good spoof is either indistiguishable from whatever it is spoofing, or else so far over the top that it just befuddles.

    This guy is really not even putting any effort into it. It’s like your mother decided to try spoofing.

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    Plus, he is probably sitting at his computer right now, pants around his ankles, with a fresh rat ready for lift-off waiting for everyone to talk about what an arse he is, so that he can finally achieve the release that he has been unable to achieve because he needed one hand for typing and the other to hold the rat.

    Fixed, because we are talking about BJ’s resident rat phucker.

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    John S. says:

    Keep Hope Alive and Loose Change You Can Believe In until I get back later to again help raise the level of discourse around here.

    That’s not fast running we can believe in.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    On the other hand, Eagleburger made his original comment of the Morning Edition of All Things considered on Thursday. And Ensign’s remark appeared in the evening edition of the LV Sun the same day. So Ensign actually received a handoff from Eaglesteak before being tackled by naked boy pictures. It all makes perfect sense now. And the pitchfork crowd were once again foiled by the Rino.

    That’s why I said "before Eagleburger’s retraction".

    ;)

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Can’t you at least try to be good at this? There’s a difference between spoof, which is a respectable thing, and vandalism, which is what you are doing both to commentary and to the English language.

    That’s a great line… oh, and a good morning to you.

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    Call me crazy

    Alright, you’re crazy.

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    a good morning to you.

    Good morning. I am just now able to see without squinting.

    I should be awake any hour now.

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    John S. says:

    And holy shit, those three PJ Media ads are like peeking through the looking glass into alternate universe.

    Lionel Chetwynd and Roger Simon are some of the few men left in Hollywood with intelligence and integrity?

    Don’t watch bullshit news like NBC, ABC and CBS when you can watch Hugh News with Hugh Hewitt?

    Michelle Malkin is a NATIONAL TREASURE??

    The mind reels.

    EDIT: Holy crap, that fourth one…Dr. Helen is hotter than magnesium?

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Nice to see you made it. ;)

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    The mind reels.

    And don’t forget, John McCain is winning in the polls.

    Hahahahahahahaha!

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    Marshall says:

    I am amused to see "Drill Here Drill Now" signs here in Virginia, which, uh, has been drilled and has come up dry. I would be much more impressed if the signs said "Nuclear power plants : Right here, right now."

    Oh, and to those who say that Obama has no executive experience :

    The Obama campaign is by all accounts one of the best run in the last several decades, in either party. The Obama Campaign Budget : $ 660 million so far, and counting. Who do you think is the executive of the Obama campaign ?

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    Fern says:

    @Michael D.:

    Just for the record the name is Inuit and probably comes from the movie of the same name.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    I should be awake any hour now.

    And ready for a nap soon after. ;)

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    Comrade Stuck says:

    That’s why I said "before Eagleburger’s retraction".

    Yes, I know. My intended point was that Eagleburger was the first of the two to make the statement on SP being unqualified. I see what your saying though regarding the fumble analogy.

    Football and politics comparisons have limitations. Funhouse musing for the day. :)

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    And ready for a nap soon after. ;)

    Unfortunately I am poised to be called downtown, into Deployment Hell.

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    John S. says:

    Who do you think is the executive of the Obama campaign ?

    Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers and Rashid Khalidi!

    They are the Supreme Triumvirate that preside over The One’s campaign. It’s true! I read it in The News.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Unfortunately I am poised to be called downtown, into Deployment Hell.

    Sorry to hear that.

    My email is down, so ring me if you are.

    And while you’re gone, I’ll make 5683 posts. ;)

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    My email is down

    What, the Great Googly Moogly is on the fritz?

    Maybe a certain listmember forgot to feed the hamsters?

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    […] One of his staffers should just call Fox News now and reserve him a time slot for his walkback. […]

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    John McCain is winning in the polls

    Winning over the Proles? Thus does the Inner Party control us forever.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Maybe a certain listmember forgot to feed the hamsters?

    I didn’t think of that.

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    Conservatively Liberal says:

    Atanarjuat:
     
    Enjoy the rest of the day waiting for me to return, people—I’m off to do some serious adult stuff (you know, stuffing a goat, as in goat boffing). If a goat wanders in here, can you hold it for me until I get back later? If you do I will let you take pictures.
     
    Goats First.

    Remember to take your bacon grease.

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    Duane says:

    I am amused to see "Drill Here Drill Now" signs here in Virginia, which, uh, has been drilled and has come up dry.

    Tha’ts the Gilmore for Senate slogan. Not very creative, but definitely better than "Try to forget that I completely fucked your state up when I was Governor and then my opponent got elected Governor and fixed everything and now he’s running against me for Senate and polling 30-40 points better than me."

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    Duane says:

    Who do you think is the executive of the Obama campaign ?

    Bill Ayers?

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    ppcli says:

    In re – Atanarjuat;
    This explains a lot – from the first line of the imdb summary of the movie:
    .
    "The telling of an Inuit legend of an evil spirit causing strife in the community…"

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    EL says:

    Now that the troll has stopped spouting idiocy I’ll resurrect,

    Off topic, but Arugula is pretty fucking good. And fairly inexpensive.

    And not only that, it grows like a weed, and self-seeds year to year. In the cooler weather I just have to step outside and pick what I want.

    Yup, homegrown arugula, so elitist…

    Self sufficiency, bitches!

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    tripletee says:

    Why’s everyone harshing on Attanutjar? In terms of recent spoofs we’ve had around here, he’s well above the curve.

    Show a little compassion – it’s hard out here for a spoof. The Republicans, apparently inspired by their Caribou Queen’s "drill baby drill!" slogan, are unearthing previously unsuspected veins of crazy every day. How is your average, everyday Joe the Spoof supposed to keep up?

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    Comrade Darkness says:

    Plant some Russian red kale next to that arugula. I’ve dug it up in the snow, still happy and growing, for a vege addition to a meal. Also reseeds nicely.

    And I’m off to canvas now. Don’t let your butts get flat sitting there, everyone. ;-)

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    "The telling of an Inuit legend of an evil spirit causing strife in the community…"

    LMAO… that’s awesome!

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    r€nato says:

    Personally, I have no problem with Attanutjar posting here. It’s just words. It’s not ‘vandalism’ to me. If you find his ‘opinions’ (trolling) objectionable, don’t read it and definitely don’t respond. Trolls, by definition, are seeking attention in order to compensate for something else that is lacking in their lives.

    I am not sure if he really believes the crap he posts here. I hope he does; if he represents the GOP Qaeda, it’s good news for Democrats. Like I’ve said before, the first step on the road to recovery is admitting you’ve got a problem.

    If wingnuts like A. want to insist that Obama won because of ACORN/mass hypnosis/damned liberal media reporting on the things Sarah Palin says and does, I am certainly not going to try to dissuade them from prolonging their self-delusion.

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    Marshall says:

    There is a great scene in the show trial of Costa-Gavras’ The Confession where the person confessing stumbles and his confession is taken over word for word on the live broadcast by an actor in a near-by room. This actually happened, at least in the Moscow Show Trials if not in the Czech ones.

    That came to me mind when I was watching this clip. Can’t say why.

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    KRK says:

    That’s not fast running we can believe in.

    By far the best response to A’s blathering that I’ve seen yet .

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    […] wonder what they threatened to do to his dog to get him to retract his Obama endorsement? It would seem very strange for a seasoned veteran of […]

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    oh really says:

    In re – Atanarjuat;
    This explains a lot – from the first line of the imdb summary of the movie:
    .

    "The telling of an Inuit legend of an evil spirit causing strife in the community…"

    In the film, Atanarjuat — the Fast Runner — is the hero, not the evil spirit.

    The problem with A and trolls like it is that they completely dominate threads — with regular commenters all thinking they’re going to be the one who gets in the zinger that will put it in its place.

    Except, the point is to dominate the thread not "win" an argument, which it does successfully every time we respond to it. When trolls dominate threads, they’re winning by their own standards. If no one pays attention to them, they lose.

    It’s not a question of free speech or vandalism. It’s simply a question of what people want to do on BJ. If you want to waste time by arguing pointlessly with someone who makes one inane, delusional statement after another, then have at it. It’s not my site and I’m only making a suggestion as to how to deal with someone who is trying to disrupt the normal conversational flow here. I’m free to go elsewhere, which I certainly will do anytime A or any other troll is successfully dominating a thread. Neither his comments nor the responses to his comments are remotely interesting to me — I’ve heard them all a million times before.

    Personally, I think completely ignoring those types is the best thing to do. If one absolutely can’t contain oneself, then talking about it is better than talking to it.

    If you want to argue, as opposed to discuss, then I suggest finding a Wingnut site and arguing there. The chances are you’ll simply be banned instantaneously, but if you aren’t, you’ll discover how much fun A has when he’s dominating a thread here. It’s not appealing to me, but some seem to really get off doing it.

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    AnneLaurie says:

    I still say they left a horse’s head in his bed.

    We’re talking about Republicans; the threating object in question would be from the other end of the horse.

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    […] Lawrence Eagleburger, Sec of State under Bush Sr. and whose endorsement is often cited by McCain, speaking on NPR (AP story, recording) (bio).  Later, his walkback (quote here; video here). […]

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    Comrade Stuck says:

    @Jamey the plumber — an American hero:

    Nothing worse than a drive by wingnut troll whose insults don’t make any sense, even by wingnut standards. Especially when they leave links to their website that don’t work. Incompetent republicans are about to be swept under the rug of irrelevance. Enjoy your new home Jamie the Asswipe.

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    […] Lawrence Eagleburger, Sec of State under Bush Sr. and whose endorsement is often cited by McCain, speaking on NPR (AP story, recording) (bio).  Later, his walkback (quote here; video here). […]

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    Dan says:

    I love this guy, "Atanarjuat". Especially his extensive and ridiculous use of multi-syllabic words and awful sentence structure. It reminds me of my Freshman English class (Ivy League) where you try to complicate every paragraph you write with pointless filler. Atanarjuat, you don’t have to butch up your sentences by making it difficult to read. Try to be a little more concise and clear in your illogical analyses.

    I also love the reference to Californian referendums to try to make yourself seem well-versed in political affairs. Typical Republican red-herring tactics – if you’re way off base in policy, through as much BS at people as you can and see what distracts them.

    And of course, love how cool you are with homosexuals, Atanarjuat – so then are you feigning appreciation for the lifestyle, or do you just vote Republican because you don’t care about them enough to risk being in a higher tax bracket?

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