Ok, I decided on Audacity for my home machine as well, and have decided to go check out another Canon. I said to hell with an RSS reader, because I am fine just surfing the web as is.
On to the new tech questions. Assume I had a DVD I wanted to rip 20 seconds out of and make a clip for this website. How would I do it? This is for the Windows machine, with VISTA.
Then, same question, for the Mac.
*** Update ***
Ok. Pretty clearly we are having a Cool Hand Luke moment here. I need you to tell me specifically what to download, and what to do. Assume I am a Palin voter.
I have a copy of Triumph of the Will ANY RANDOM MOVIE in my DVD player on my Apple. There is a thirty second piece I want to rip from it, so I can then put it into either youtube or flash. Walk me through. Additionally, I do not have os 10.5, so I guess I need to upgrade that.
I AM LOOKING TO LEARN HOW TO DO THIS, NOT LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC VIDEO CLIP.
W.E.B. Adamant
If you’re not absolutely sure about the RSS reader, there’s an open source reader called RSSOwl. It would take some setting up, but it should be smooth sailing from there.
As for the DVD clip question, I have Photoshop Elements 4.0 and it seems to work pretty well for a dumbed down movie editor. It cost me around $90. If you’re looking for something cheaper, Windows usually has a movie editor already installed for you, and I’m pretty sure Vista is no different. Otherwise, there aren’t any good open-source options for editing that I’ve found.
Good luck on your search.
Edit: Also, if you want to use music in Audacity, but use iTunes, you’ll need an MPEG4 -> MP3 converter. Audacity can’t open iTunes converted files.
xyzzy
Handbrake works pretty well for DVD ripping under MacOS.
J. Maynard Gelinas
On the Mac, use Mac the Ripper. It has become payware, but with the most ridiculous payment mechanism ever invented. Don’t bother until the authors learn how to arrange payment in a rational way. So here’s a free beta version that handles all the recent DVD copy protection schemes:
http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/04/09/preview-mactheripper-v30-r14/
There’s a link in that blog post that will get you a dmg file with the binary. It works *really well*. The next thing you’ll want after that is Handbrake:
http://handbrake.fr/
And you’ll probably want ffmpegx for cross-codec encoding as well:
http://homepage.mac.com/major4/
Someone else will have to chime in on Window tools. HTH.
Guy Andrew Hall
I recommend the Sage or Sage II RSS add on for FireFox, for an RSS reader. It opens in a side column and let’s you know which of the sites have been updated. It’s fast, it’s simple, and it’s been reliable.
Yes, I understand you already said the hell with an RSS reader, but it let’s you quickly get to the blogs you read when they update.
Jon H
For the DVD on the Mac, Handbrake is a free DVD ripping tool. The UI is a little tech-heavy with options, but it works. It converts the video into avi or m4a format. It’ll rip direct from DVD, or you can rip a whole DVD onto disk using Mac The Ripper and then point Handbrake at it. I have had more luck just using Handbrake to pull directly from dvd.
The main problem might be that Handbrake’s UI seems to be chapter-oriented. I don’t know if you can just tell it to rip from minute 99 to minute 103. Maybe if the video is in one chapter? Otherwise you’d have to figure out which chapter minutes 99-103 are in.
Once it’s on the Mac as video files, you should be able to import them into iMovie.
It’s entirely possible that Windows has better ripping tools than Handbrake.
Alan
I’d be interested in finding a better way to extract a clip on a Mac. Anyway, I rip DVDs using Handbrake. And use Quicktime Pro to extract the clip.
r€nato
For Mac, I also use OSex to rip DVDs (as an alternative to Mac the Ripper) into mpg-2 and ac3 files, then I use mpeg2decX to convert the mpg-2 (.m2v) to QuickTime movies.
Depending what you are ripping, sometimes the audio does not sync up with the video. Try using QuickTime Pro to copy and paste the video track into the audio track, using "Add Scaled" so that the video track is scaled to the length of the audio track.
If that still does not provide a properly synced video, use QT Mutator (runs under Mac OS classic only).
Unfortunately it’s not yet a straightforward process; Handbrake probably does the best job of making things simple but it’s good to have a few different tools in your DVD ripping toolbox, depending on your needs.
J. Maynard Gelinas
Also: Bug – I can’t edit comments after posting. It tells me that I don’t have permission. And also: Audacity on the Mac is junk. The interface is slow and the program is much too buggy. The Intel version crashes with regularity for me on my Macbook running OS X 10.5. I’ve given up on it. Try Sound Studio. Unfortunately, it costs $79 – but it does work.
http://www.freeverse.com/apps/app/?id=5012
dmsilev
For the DVD question, on the Mac try HandBrake. I think it pulls things off DVDs with the granularity of "one chapter at a time", so you’d probably have to dump the resulting file into iMovie or something to get the 20 seconds that you want.
-dms
slag
nevermind…
But hey-I like this new edit feature!
Lev
I recommend using Flask for the PC. You might have to rip the DVD files to the PC first (something like DVDShrink or DVDFabDecrypter can be used here), but then you can just use Flask to do the encoding into computer-playable video.
Oh, yeah, and they’re both open-source and freely available. Just head over to Google.
Martin
Screw MacTheRipper. Get Fairmount and VLC. Fairmount hands the DVD data off to VLC which decrypts it. It’s free, works perfectly, and let’s you deal with the DVD as if it were any normal attached volume. Want to watch the DVD off your hard drive later, just copy the TS_VIDEO off using the Finder. If you want to rip off part of the video, use Handbrake to read it right off of the mounted volume. Much faster than the MacTheRipper process.
I haven’t found any need for ffmpegx, personally. But Handbrake is fantastic and they are compiling it for Linux and Windows now. I’ve put our entire DVD collection on a Mac Mini which we use as a home theater unit. Saves the kids from wrecking the DVDs and the mini is a million times smaller than a DVD player in our limited space (which doesn’t allow for all the DVDs/CDs either).
r€nato
oh, bd4go converts .ac3 to .aiff files but it can only do so one-by-one, doesn’t do batch conversions.
Axe Diesel Palin
Everyone seems to be posting Mac answers to DVD ripping.
For Windows XP, I’ve used a tool from http://www.dvd-wmv.com. It really just pulls together and manages a bunch of free windows tools including:
1. DVD Decryptor is called to copy the DVD to a vob on the local disk (with Subtitle and audio streams)
2. DGIndex is called to extract the audio stream from the vob
3. AC3 Delay corrector is called to fix any audio sync issues
4. An AviSynth script is generated
5. The AviSynth script and the extracted AC3 file are given to Windows Media Encoder
You can probably use the interim outputs of some of these tools directly in Windows Movie Maker before the last encoding step.
The Other Steve
Looks like HandBrake is available for Vista. So you won’t be stuck having to use a Mac.
If that doesn’t work, look at this:
http://www.papajohn.org/MM2-Importing-Video-Discs.html
Vlad
For Mac, I use Mac the Ripper. It’s a little non-intuitive at the start, since you need to download libraries for installation and such, but it’s pretty good once you get the hang of it.
For PC, I used to rip with DVD Shrink in the past, though it’s been a while and there might be something better out now.
Ms. Missive
I’d try SnagIt screen capture/video capture program. It’s got a free 30 day trial in case you end up not liking it. Very powerful program can be used for a myriad of things.
There’s some great reviews over at download.com if you have time to sort through them:
http://www.download.com/SnagIt/3000-2192_4-10004813.html
The Other Steve
As far as putting it on the website goes. Use youtube, or you’ll need a tool to convert it to Flash.
cleek
maybe take a look a vDub for video work on Windows. it’s free. also Clone.AD looks promising.
JGabriel
Windows XP:
1. DVD Decrypter – For decrypting the DVD and copying it to your Hard Drive/
2. Virtual Dub – To clip out the video section you want.
These are free and open source tools, but they it does take some time to decrypt and clip video. And there is a learning curve. OTOH, I haven’t found anything better in commercial software, though it does seem like there should be something simpler.
There just isn’t, as far as I know. Too many risks with respect to getting sued by the movie studios for any good commercial solutions to have been produced, I guess.
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Scrutinizer
CloneDVD and AnyDVD. Been using them for years for archiving, and haven’t found anything they wouldn’t work on. AnyDVD even handles BluRay.
bvac
Handbrake works well. There’s a version for Vista too, not just Mac. I don’t think you can crop time, but you can pick which chapters you want to convert, then edit them in other video software.
RSS reader, no clue.
If you want an inexpensive camera, look for an Olympus Stylus 810 or 830 or something like that. They should be less than $200, maybe less than $150, and the image quality is good. See here, here, and here. Image quality in low light is iffy, but thats usually the case for point and shoots. It’s very reliable, I’ve dropped it many times and it is weather resistant. If you want everything-proof, the 1030 can be frozen in a block of ice, dropped 6 feet, and still work.
JGabriel
Scrutinizer:
Well, yes, you can use those to decrypt DVD’s instead of DVD Decrypter. I don’t find them any better than DVD Decrypter, but your mileage may vary. Good to know about AnyDVD’s BlueRay functionality. The last time I looked at it would have been a year or two ago, and it didn’t support it then.
It was more vDub that I had in mind, though. Maybe the Snagit software that Ms. Missive mentions above would be a good solution for John. I hadn’t heard of that one, and don’t know how effective it is.
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Thomas
Handbrake should work for most DVDs. It runs on Mac, Windows and Linux. Only problem –I think it only rips entire DVDs.
DVD to MPEG does allow you to select clips out of a DVD. Windows only.
dmsilev
Re: the update. Since that’s a fairly well-known film, the first thing I would try is not screwing around with ripping applications. The first thing would be to look at the clips already on YouTube and see if any of them match what you want. If so, then you’re done.
Edit: here’s the whole film on YouTube, so worst case scenario, you could tell people to "scroll ahead to minute 45" or whatever. Also, there are tools around for downloading YouTube videos and dumping them into iMovie or Windows Movie or whatever. A coworker of mine did the legwork in figuring that out for a Vista machine not too long ago. He’s not in the office right now, but I can ask if you’d like.
-dms
Andrew
You should really try the RSS Reader thing. My recommendation is NewNewsWire for the Mac, as it integrates with the NewsGator online version, as well as mobile versions for a BlackBerry or iPhone. Thus, you can read all your sources on any platform and as the read/unread status is updated for all platforms. It’s a great app in general, but the sync across platforms makes it #1 in my book. If you want it for a PC, FeedDemon is their PC version. Full suite of their tools are here: http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/default.aspx
John Cole
You are missing the point. I want to know how to do it. Triumph of the Will is in my dvd player simply because it was lying here on my desk on top of all my other propaganda dvd’s.
MM
To record video using a mac, I use iShowU. Learn more about it here.
Sujal
the solutions for the mac above are what I’d recommend if you really need to rip large portions of the DVD.
On the other hand, if you just really want 20 seconds, I’d recommend getting a decent screen capture utility.
I use SnapzPro on my mac which will set you back like 70 but takes great video and screen caps. There should be something similar on windows.
There may even be free stuff on both platforms.
http://Www.ambrosiasw.com
Sujal
Typing on iPhone so sorry I didn’t make the link with HTML.
dmsilev
Ah, sorry.
In that case, I’d go with HandBrake to pull the video off the DVD, and then iMovie (or some other video editor; iMovie probably came with your Mac, so it should already be installed) to select the clip you want.
-dms
MPAA
Going to rip a clip from one of OUR dvd’s?
We know who you are, and where you are…
/sarcasm (for the not so obvious crowd) :)
Alan
The SnapzProX software may be the way to go. Plus you may be able to use it as a teaching aid. It’s a type of screencast software. I’ve never used it but it seems like the path of least resistance. The other way is ripping the DVD which takes a while. And then, after it’s on the hard drive, you extract your clip using another program.
stickler
"all my other propaganda dvds…"
Good grief, man, you already have Riefenstahl, why do you need more?
I’m actually curious, though: how many do you have, and what kind of titles are we talking about? I’m always looking for new ways to indoctrinate my students.
John Cole
@stickler:
Right in front of me I have:
Fahrenheit 9/11
Fahrenhype 9/11
the Capra “Why We Fight” collection
Reefer Madness
The Atomic Cafe
Dr. Strangelove
JFK
and a stack of stuff from the Media Education Foundation.
Most of my stuff is at home. These are just some things I use for different projects/classes.
papatonyinsd
Back on the RSS thing – USE GOOGLE READER. It’s free, it’s superb.
http://www.google.com/reader
It’s like seeing email in a super-easy to read format, but for RSS feeds. AND, it’s available anywhere that there is a web-browser, on any platform. If you have an iPhone (even a first-generation slowpoke), there’s a super-fast optimized version:
http://www.google.com/reader/i
I’m on 104 different feeds, and I’m never, ever disappointed. John Aravosis at Americablog turned me on to it, and it leaves everything else behind.
Punchy
Simple, John:
1) Wash off your apple
2) Eat your apple for proper nutrition and brain food
3) Download said clip from your DVD onto your computer using the proper software
4) Drink a beer or three
5) Stop bitching about Palin
stickler
John:
Some good titles in there. That Capra stuff is great.
I’m still looking for "Ich klage an" from, I think, 1938. Nazi pro-euthanasia films always cheer me up.
Scott H
I don’t know that you want to wrestle with iMovie for cutting clips after you Handbrake your DVD. BTW, you can still get the Mac OS Tiger Handbrake version 9.1.
If Handbrake can’t decrypt your DVD, freeware MacTheRipper 2.6.6 is helpful. After MacTheRipper, continue with Handbrake.
I find the $29.95 spent for QuickTime Pro well worth it. The controls are intuitive, easy cut and paste, simple and varied export. iMovie is all about "projects" and bloaty and balky for simple tasks. iMovie is more about getting clips into a longer product than the reverse.
ninerdave
Rip and edit DVDs on a Mac
Rip
Edit using iMovie (note the other related video howtos using iMovie).
If you wanna stay with quicktime, you’re done.
Otherwise grab ffmpegx and follow the How-To’s on their site.
Martin
Oh, SnapzProX! Great idea for short clips.
Download it.
Open the DVD in DVD Player, forward to the section you want to capture and pause.
Tell SnapzPro to capture a movie, using the window capture mode, select the DVD Player window. Tell it to hide the cursor.
Unpause the video and when it reaches the end, tell SnapzPro to stop recording. Pick the video format you want.
You can open the video in Quicktime Player and crop the ends. For example, if you want to trim off a few seconds from the front, scrub to the beginning and press ‘I’ (in marker) and then scrub to where you want the video to start and press ‘O’ (out marker). Then select ‘cut’ from the edit menu, and it’ll remove that bit of video. Do the same at the end, and save.
Done.
The Dangerman
If all you are doing is ripping the sound, why not just use Roxio or similar? I know you can clip out whatever you want in Roxio. BTW, this is for XP; I don’t know shit about Vista (other than to stay the hell away) or Mac (love it, but work is Windows, dammit).
Scrutinizer
Triumph of the Will is an amazing piece of film making, but I have to watch Night and Fog directly afterwards to get my head back in the right place.
tripletee (formerly tBone)
@JGabriel:
Since development stopped on DVD Decrypter, there have been a number of new copy-protection schemes that it simply can’t handle. AnyDVD/CloneDVD are constantly updated to get around whatever new bullshit the studios have cooked up.
I still use Decrypter because of all of the granularity it offers for ripping, but in conjunction with AnyDVD (it mounts discs with copy protection removed, so Decrypter can handle them even if they’re using one of the newer schemes).
Re: VirtualDub – haven’t used it for a while, but I thought you needed one of the mod versions to open VOB/MPEG2 sources?
@The Other Steve:
Weak troll. The Windows port of Handbrake, while decent, pales in comparison to the OSX version.
Cols714
Can you please go mock Red State or ConYankee? Those guys are really going off of the deep end. When Obama wins, what the heck is going to happen over there???
Billy K(hrushchev)
I can only speak for Mac.
Handbrake (free) to rip from DVD to .avi or whatever format you choose.
Quicktime Pro (gotta pay) to export the clip. I’m not sure of free alternatives, but I suppose you could use iMovie (but it would really suck).
Then upload to YouTube.
Also, someone mentioned Mac the Ripper, which is a fine app, but rips a DVD to your hard drive in DVD format. It does not convert to a compressed format for you to work with (such as avi or mpg). Unless you want to pirate exact copies of DVDs and burn them back to a blank DVD, you don’t need Mac the Ripper.
Oh, also, as someone said above, do install ffmpeg as well as perian. Basically, between those two you’ll have all the codecs you can ever desire on your Mac.
Finally, upgrading to 10.5 is totally worth the money, but not necessary for what you want to do.
Xanthippas
At least four more years of them telling us that Obama has had people murdered and is taking money from the Chinese or somesuch. In other words, nothing you should bother to worry about.
Nylund
I am interested in the same thing John is. Is there a way to rip a small clip and NOT the whole movie? (I see a thing about ripping just a chapter in some comments). Can you clarify how to do this doing the least amount of ripping as possible? I don’t want to rip 4 gigs just for a 30 second clip.
greynoldsct00
Well you know, the Clintons had people whacked too, it’s a Democratic thing…
stickler
I agree with Xanthippas.
Moreover, if you want an idea of what the next eight years are going to be like, just re-run the 1990s. Vince Foster, black helicopters, Janet Reno, Mena airfield, Whitewater, and on and on and on, only with slightly different names.
Ugh.
Alan
@Nylund: Handbreak can rip chapters. But it’s guess work on which chapter you’re actually ripping. There is a preview screenshot of each chapter but that may not be enough.
Alan
@Nylund: Handbreak can rip chapters. But it’s guess work on which chapter you’re actually ripping. There is a preview screenshot of each chapter but that may not be enough.
greynoldsct00
HA! Confederate Yankee is claiming Ayers ghost wrote Obama’s books…
Alan
If Obama wins, the Clinton years of RW conspiracy theories will pale in comparison to Obama’s. The RW media machine was in its infancy back then. I actually fear what the RW will become in the next few years.
CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII
Hey John, sorry, as I know this is a tech thread, but I thought you might want to cover this:
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Regardless of his background, it was never a problem for anyone — including Republicans and Chicago’s most powerful business leaders — to work with Ayers on Chicago’s public schools. In fact, Ayers is widely respected in the field of urban education.
"It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier," said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. "It’s ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly."
Nelson says her fellow Republicans "might snort when they hear the name Bill Ayers, because they know he comes from a wealthy family, they know he became a radical activist early in his life … but beyond just snorting, I don’t think anyone gives it another thought."
"I don’t remember ever hearing anyone raise concerns or questions or concerns about [Ayers’] background," says Anne Hallett, who has worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge grant and with Obama on education and other community and legislative matters. "And that included everybody I was engaged with," including prominent Republicans, and corporate and civic leaders in Chicago, Hallett adds.
Hallett calls this attack on Obama’s association with Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge by further association, "a smear campaign. It’s a political diatribe that has no basis in fact. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was an extremely positive initiative. It was well-vetted, thorough, and the fact that it is now is being used for political purposes is, in my opinion, outrageous."
Loneoak
I pretty regularly use Handbrake to rip DVDs and then edit short clips for use in lectures using iMovie. (iMovie + Keynote = Awesome. Any video + Powerpoint = EPIC FAIL.)
I’d recommend the following:
1) Use handbrake to rip in m4v or mp4 formats. Don’t use avi as no other Mac programs will read it, such as iTunes. Ripping your movie with an Dual-Core Mac should take less than 2 hours.
2) Familiarize yourself with iMovie, it is actually fairly intuitive. It took me only around 2 hours to learn how to do all of this.
3) Make your cuts with iMovie.
4) Export from iMovie using whatever format you want for YouTube.
5) If you want to keep the original entire movie, do so. If you want to ditch it and just keep the clip, do so.
LITBMueller
Now, listen close now: I saw Bill Gates in a commercial, so I have lots of experience:
1) Press that big button thingy on the front of the big plastic box. Be darn tootin’ that its lit, and that means your ‘puter is turned ON.
2) You need to get on the Internets. Its that thing that talks to other ‘puters over the phone. Kinda like that movie "War Games." Matthew Broderick is cute but a liberal!
3) Did I mention that Barack HUSSEIN Obama has terrorists over for dinner? Ya, they don’t see ‘Murica like you and me!
3) When you get on the Internets, lemme know n’ I’ll get right back to ya!
Bradster
For ripping small clips in Windows, I’ll concur with the DVDShrink suggestion, with some modifications and additions. You’ll also need AutoGK.
* Run ‘Shrink, choose Open Disk.
* Choose Re-author on the top row
* Click on DVD Browser on tab on right-hand side.
* Drag full movie over to the center-left window (DVD structure)
* Click the blue In/Out arrow button on the right above that window. That will take you to a new window where you can choose how much of the movie to rip. You can cut by both chapter and frame. Make your choice and hit OK.
* Hit Backup! button on top row, choose where to put your files. Ignore compression settings because your clip will be only a tiny fraction of a full DVD5 anyway. OK.
* Open AutoGK.
* Ummm. Follow this tutorial since the process is the same for any ripped material you want to convert to DiVX, and it’s already written out with pictures.
Caveat: ‘Shrink isn’t as good as rippers if there’s a certain level of copy protection on the disk, as it will refuse to open the disk.
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What a thing to de-lurk for… showing off bad pirate sklzs.
Bradster
Oops. Never commented on a blog before and didn’t realize that asterisks rendered as horizontal lines here.
The Other Steve
clue: My name ain’t Steve Jobs. you can’t hold me responsible for the Mac.
Martin
Perian:
Jonothan8
Not strictly on topic but zamzar.com is an effortless way to convert music on youtube to mp3 – effortless!
You copy the url of, say, your favourite Jerry Douglas performance on youtube, open zamzar.com, paste that url in box #1, chose the format from a dropdown list in box #2, say mp3, put your email address in box #3, say yes to box #4 – and then a short time later you get an email with a url which you click – bam! the toon’s in itunes.
And it’s free.
Aaron
Canon A590 IS
AA batteries
2.5"display
4Xoptical zoom
SDHC memory
Don
DVDFab picked up the DVD Decryptor baton and works nicely. They want you – obviously – to opt for the payware version that will do one-step decrypting (and in fact does it quite well) but if you want to just rip the whole kit and kaboodle DVDFab is great.
I may go ahead and buy it after years of using DVDFab/Decryptor because it does such a nice job with discs with multiple items you want to encode, like tv show box sets. Trying to do that in Handbrake is an exercise in boredom, requiring you to add each ‘file’ one by one to the queue.
Mac Lover
@J. Maynard Gelinas: Dont be a dumb ass, mac the ripper is free ware stop telling people things you dont know. I sure you will make a fine lying chest beating Republican some day. http://www.mactheripper.org/ and please dont respond with red bull fueled rebuttal I dont care to here it.
Lordyuo
Everyone seems to be posting Mac answers to DVD ripping.
For Windows XP, I’ve used a tool from http://www.dvdtowmvconverter.com/. It really just pulls together and manages a bunch of free windows tools including:
1. DVD Decryptor is called to copy the DVD to a vob on the local disk (with Subtitle and audio streams)
2. DGIndex is called to extract the audio stream from the vob
3. AC3 Delay corrector is called to fix any audio sync issues
4. An AviSynth script is generated
5. The AviSynth script and the extracted AC3 file are given to Windows Media Encoder
You can probably use the interim outputs of some of these tools directly in Windows Movie Maker before the last encoding step.