Umm, Folks. That Was Sarah Palin Being Sarah Palin

If I hear one more person tell me that what we really need is for McCain’s handlers to let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin, as if the real Sarah Palin was not the one offering up rambling gibberish to Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson, but the one reading a speech at the RNC, I am going to scream. Michelle Bernard, on MSNBC, stated she can not believe the interview because the Palin speech at the RNC was so good, so obviously the handlers are hurting her and that is why she was terrible with Couric.

That is simply ass backwards. Sarah Palin read a speech off a teleprompter at the RNC, much of which was written BEFORE SHE WAS EVEN THE CANDIDATE. The real Sarah Palin, unscripted, and, if you will, Sarah Palin being Sarah Palin, was the babbling incoherency on display at CBS. That is why they are doing everything they can to hide her from the press. That is the real McCoy.

Heckuva job, Johnny Drama.

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258 replies
  1. 1
    KCinDC says:

    What does it mean to say she can’t believe the interview? She thinks that was a Palin impersonator sitting with Couric? Or Palin was drugged? Or the whole thing was computer-generated?

  2. 2
    Leo says:

    Man, ThymeZone’s bet that Obama would beat McCain by 20% is looking better than ever.

  3. 3
    zzyzx says:

    I disagree that those interviews were Sarah Palin being Sarah Palin. They were Sarah Palin trying to hide her real beliefs in an attempt to lose votes. She’s at her best when she’s talking about social issues and she’s in an environment where saying that a raped 14 year old should be prohibited from getting an abortion is a point in her favor.

  4. 4
    KCinDC says:

    Incidentally, John, we’ve been covering your sinister international blogging conspiracy starting about here.

  5. 5
    oh really says:

    The real Sarah Palin, unscripted, and, if you will, Sarah Palin being Sarah Palin, was the babbling incoherency on display at CBS.

    Careful there, John. If you are mean and Palin finds out, she might not show up for the debate on Thursday. You know, the one she’s really looking forward to.

  6. 6
    gbear says:

    This is your mind.

    This is your mind on teleprompters.

    A text feed is a horrible thing to waste.

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    poputonian says:

    Agree … where was Michelle coming from on that? The only thing Palin proved on convention night was that she can read.

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    zzyzx says:

    Errr, in an attempt NOT to lose votes.

  9. 9
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Sounds like the debate prep is going to be “memorize these talking points and forget about the question.” Or, and letting Sarah be Sarah, of course.

  10. 10

    By allowing Governor Palin to be herself it will be obvious that the financial crisis created by all the angry Negroes can be solved by cutting taxes and over turning Roe v Wade. But Senator McCain will get us out of this mess because. The Russians are still wanting to conquer our country but we watched them closely so that is why we can’t let the terrorists win. We should also not forget that John McCain was a POW and has the experience to get rid of this mess if we just get out of his way and let him lead the way real leaders showing leadership always do in a time of crisis.

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    Brian J says:

    I think what the commentators are saying is that she needs to try to recapture that image of being the likable, interesting person in order to skate past her lack of knowledge and experience at the federal level. I can understand that. That’s really how she was sold at first and, I think, why she was popular with certain crowds. It may not work, because the questions of her readiness aren’t going to go away, but unless she can start looking like she knows what she’s talking about and then shout it loudly from now until election day, it may be the only shot that she has.

  12. 12
    Not My Fault says:

    CBS has a new interview with Sarah. This time she brought along a friend, but Uncle John couldn’t keep her from going adrift

    Couric: Gov. Palin, since our last interview, you’ve gotten a lot of flak. Some Republicans have said you’re not prepared; you’re not ready for prime-time. People have questioned your readiness since that interview. And I’m curious …

    Palin: Yeah.

    Couric: … to hear your reaction.

    Palin: Well, not only am I ready, but willing and able to serve as vice-president with Sen. McCain if Americans so bless us and privilege us with the opportunity of serving them, ready with my executive experience as a city mayor and manager, as a governor, as a commissioner, a regulator of oil and gas.

    Gov Palin sitting down with Couric, and bringing McCain along to get her out of trouble is weird enough as it is. And then having both of them be so inarticulate… it is like Palinitis is contagous.

  13. 13
    mynameishusseintoo says:

    Maybe she took some of McWhatever’s Ambiens..
    WTF!!!!

  14. 14
    Comrade Peter J says:

    Sarah Palin read a speech off a teleprompter at the RNC, much of which was written BEFORE SHE WAS EVEN THE CANDIDATE. The real Sarah Palin, unscripted, and, if you will, Sarah Palin being Sarah Palin, was the babbling incoherency on display at CBS.

    The republicans are demanding that they are allowed to set up a teleprompter at the debate, if they aren’t allowed to do so, Palin will not debate.

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    Ted says:

    Holy crap, there’s a lot of new comment features!

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    cyntax says:

    I really like the idea of letting Palin go on the offensive at the debates. It’s like they realize her favorables have plummeted but they don’t think it’s because people have gotten to know her; it’s because she hasn’t been mean-spirited and partisan enough. OK, give that a spin.

    Most tone deaf campaign. Ever.

  17. 17
    MobiusKlein says:

    I’m in favor of letting Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin – otherwise known as Governor Palin.

  18. 18
    Comrade NonyNony says:

    Yeah, anyone who thinks that the “real” Sarah Palin is the one who read a firey speech from a teleprompter in front of the RNC is kinda dumb. Of course, these are the same folks who claimed that Obama was just an empty suit that was useless without a teleprompter, so maybe they were projecting there and really are just looking for an empty suit that can read a teleprompter really well. (And remember how they went crazy trying to suggest that the teleprompter malfunctioned and she just ad libbed the speech? Good times, good times.)

    However, I think there’s a more realistic “let Sarah be Sarah” call going on. They’re trying to stuff her full of talking points so she doesn’t go off message. That’s clearly not working – she can’t learn the entire McMaverick “platform” in under a month. Especially when McCain changes his mind from day to day (or even hour to hour, as he did today) about whether he’s on the McMaverick or the McMaverick with Cheese platform. I don’t envy her having to keep up with those flip-flops on McCain’s part.

    So the call to “let her be her” is to just release her without talking points. Let her answer the interview questions with her “gut” and bluster her way past them. I doubt that she could possibly sound as terrible as she has in these last few interviews, and there’s a chance that she might generate some thoughts that aren’t word salad.

    I mean, I think it would be a nightmare mess of a situation, and it certainly wouldn’t help McCain convince folks that she’s ready to lead. But I doubt it could be worse than they’re doing right now. Though I imagine we’ll get one or two more images along the lines of Putin rearing his head over Alaska whether they let her out of her box or not.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Wait. Have you guys heard the rumors of the extra footage CBS has? Where she wasn’t able to name any SC case besides Roe? Apparently all Couric got was dead silence. Ouch.

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    charlotte says:

    Most tone deaf campaign. Ever.

    Exactly right as the talking heads like to say.

    I’m happy to have SP be SP as long as she takes her magic act back north and leaves the rest of us the hell along. Too bad we can’t amend the Constitution to prohibit this kind of insanity from occuring ever again. VPs needs to pass a threshold of basic competence before being nominated, anyone? Outrage that this woman was nominated and a giant FU to the USA.

    McCain is deranged.

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    Comrade The Moar You Know says:

    Gov Palin sitting down with Couric, and bringing McCain along to get her out of trouble is weird enough as it is. And then having both of them be so inarticulate… it is like Palinitis is contagous.

    I thought you were joking.

    Of course not. But, look, I understand this day and age of “gotcha” journalism. Is that a pizza place? In a conversation with someone who you didn’t hear … the question very well, you don’t know the context of the conversation, grab a phrase.

    The above is not from Palin. It’s from McCain.

  22. 22
    cyntax says:

    zzyzx Says:
    September 29th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
    Errr, in an attempt NOT to lose votes.

    Or another way of putting it: “in an [inadvertant] attempt to lose votes.”

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    DonnaInMichigan says:

    Fuck Palin. I’m tired of haring about her being coddled.

    First they had to change the debate format, because they didn’t want her rambling on.
    Next McCain tried canceling it, by playing Master of the Universe.
    Now I hear, they want a teleprompter for her at the debate.

    Why don’t they hand her the questions ahead of time, so she can better prepare?
    Or have her wear and earpiece so the answers can be given to her?

    Well I won’t be surprise if that is the case.

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    DonnaInMichigan says:

    Haring? sheesh..I meant HEARING.

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    nicethugbert says:

    That’s not fair, she read notes during the Couric interview also. Well, I suspect she did, unless she has some other reason to look down at her lap.

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    Alex B says:

    Gov Palin sitting down with Couric, and bringing McCain along to get her out of trouble is weird enough as it is.

    McCain joining Plain at Palin-Couric Redux struck a chord with me….

    When I got a bad second-grade report card, my father came to school with me to speak with the teacher as well.

    This ‘interview’ took me back to Parent-Teacher Night.

  27. 27
    Comrade The Moar You Know says:

    The clip is actually pretty awesome; you can tell Couric is really pissed off in a couple of spots.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    Sarah Palin’s debate prep at John McCain’s Sedona home consists of a desperate attempt to turn her into every fictional wise and wonderful TV mom from the Fifties to date. The real Sarah Palin is as attractive as medical waste in a supermarket and dumber than a bag of hammers.

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    Not My Fault says:

    At this point, the only way that this could possibly make sense is if at the end of the debate this week, Governor Palin looks directly into the camera and says:

    “Live, from New York. It’s Saturday Night!”

  30. 30
    Brian J says:

    Taken from the previous thread…

    jrg Says:

    I can assure you that this political theater is not pleasing Country Club Republicans. We are now witnessing a complete implosion of the GOP. I cannot believe how stupid these people are.

    I can only hope that is true. If all of the stories about McCain’s grandstanding actually hurting the negotiations in congress are accurate, I can’t imagine it’s going to make him look good to these guys. If keeps pulling stunts like this, and Palin keeps imploding, I think we go from a question of whether or not Obama wins to how many red states turn blue.

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    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck says:

    Now I hear, they want a teleprompter for her at the debate

    LOL, and here I was thinking they’d do the republican thing. Sneak a tiny transmitter in her ear. Maybe this is the new straight- up- handicapped brand of republicanism. Next prez debate, Mccain will demand a rubber mallet for his follow up rebuttals.

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    Comrade Josh Vondoktorpepper says:

    Now I hear, they want a teleprompter for her at the debate.

    Oh. My. God. Either this is fixing to be the biggest rope-a-dope in the history of mankind, or John McCain is proving himself to be the biggest flaming douche ever.

  33. 33

    So when is McCain going to promise to “bring the sexy back”? After the last few weeks it can’t be too far off, eh? Oy! John McCain in a Speedo.

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    AkaComrade says:

    Heckuva job, Johnny Drama.

    That’s a slap in the face to Kevin Dillon.

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    dmsilev says:

    I’m with TBogg; she’s being crammed full with stimulus-response answers, and she’ll be expected to act like a somewhat more personable trained seal during the debate.

    And, as TBogg says, one can imagine Joe Lieberman and the rest of the McCain “debate training” team keeping on-hand a bucket full of small fish and other treats.

    -dms

  36. 36
    Polish the Guillotines (formerly FLILF Hunter) says:

    CBS has a new interview with Sarah.

    It’s like the upgraded the spokesbot firmware.

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    Ted says:

    Yeah. I can see this comment feature disappearing quickly.

  38. 38
    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse says:

    That latest McCan-Palin CBS video is here. That was incredibly tense and uncomfortable all around. And Couric did look really annoyed with both of them. I would have loved her so much if she had just snapped, “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining!”

    Hey, is Judge Judy available for the VP debate do-over?

  39. 39
    KCinDC says:

    Alex, remember when Bush had to bring Cheney along for his appearance before the 9/11 commission? Palin is Bush. Of course, I don’t remember him having to bring Uncle Dick along to a TV interview, but maybe he was lurking off camera.

  40. 40
    Ted says:

    Hey, is Judge Judy available for the VP debate do-over?

    I would pay good money to see her debate Biden.

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    gypsy howell says:

    McCain was really really “dirty-old-man” creepy in that interview. Leering at her, wriggling with his rings, making over-animated gestures, grinning inappropriately — the whole thing creeped me out.

  42. 42
    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse says:

    Palin is Bush.

    Sexist!

  43. 43
    Comrade Josh Vondoktorpepper says:

    Wow, that was awkward, especially when McCain is fidgeting and giving the ‘what the hell am I doing here?’ look during Palin’s first answer.

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    jrg says:

    It’s like they realize her favorables have plummeted but they don’t think it’s because people have gotten to know her; it’s because she hasn’t been mean-spirited and partisan enough.

    It would be nice to see 90 minutes of gay baiting, libul bashing, dinosaur riding, book burning ignorance. Hopefully she will say something racist, as well.

    … but what I think we’ll see is “The terrorists want to kill us” and “I like to make pancakes for my kids before church” for the whole debate. She’s going to run out of things to say after ~5 minutes, so I expect plenty of repetition.

    All Biden has to do is “feed the bite” by getting her riled up and giving her enough time to come up with painfully moronic ramblings. Biden can then back off, go after McCain, and start the process over again.

    Palin will be fighting the moderator 90% of the time and Biden 10% of the time. Biden will be fighting McCain 90% of the time and stringing Palin along 10% of the time.

    If Biden manages to make Palin look mean-spirited, he wins the debate. She’s going to look foolish no matter what, so going after her lack of skill, common sense, or policy knowledge would just make Biden look like he’s kicking a puppy. He’s better off attacking the top of the ticket, while slowly giving Palin more and more rope.

    Besides, Palin seems like a psycho to me. I think that the more Biden ignores her and goes after McCain, the angrier she will get, because she wants to be the center of attention.

  45. 45
    mellowjohn says:

    kinda reminds me of the strident calls by the john birchers i grew up around for the u.s. government (especially those commies in the state department) to “unleash chiang kai shek!”

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    Now that McCain’s “leadership” has cratered on the bailout bill, and now that Palin has made herself a laughingstock, I look for both of them to begin referring to Barrack Hussein Obama starting tomorrow. Watch as they also unspool their Greatest Hits including Ayers, Wright, “most liberal member of Congress,” “raise your taxes,” etc.

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    mellowjohn says:

    p.s. first post on the new server. much nicer!

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    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака says:

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    Kali's Little Sister says:

    Too bad we can’t amend the Constitution to prohibit this kind of insanity from occuring ever again. VPs needs to pass a threshold of basic competence before being nominated

    Testing! No V.P. left behind!

  50. 50
    Herb says:

    Johnny Drama! Much catchier than McSame. Let’s run with it.

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    DaveInOz says:

    Alex, remember when Bush had to bring Cheney along for his appearance before the 9/11 commission? Palin is Bush. Of course, I don’t remember him having to bring Uncle Dick along to a TV interview, but maybe he was lurking off camera.

    In the rose bushes I suspect.

  52. 52
    Brian J says:

    Now that McCain’s “leadership” has cratered on the bailout bill, and now that Palin has made herself a laughingstock, I look for both of them to begin referring to Barrack Hussein Obama starting tomorrow. Watch as they also unspool their Greatest Hits including Ayers, Wright, “most liberal member of Congress,” “raise your taxes,” etc.

    Part of me expects them to do that as well, but I expect it to be the final nail in the coffin. If Obama’s lead on economics issues remains as strong as it is now or continues to grow, nobody will be impressed with an ad about William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright, except for the people who were already going to vote against Obama.

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    Conservatively Liberal says:
    Now I hear, they want a teleprompter for her at the debate.

    Oh. My. God. Either this is fixing to be the biggest rope-a-dope in the history of mankind, or John McCain is proving himself to be the biggest flaming douche ever.

    I am an anime buff, and Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is a great series. It is a good thing that they are not able to feed information to her wirelessly or pre-program her for responses, but I bet they wish they could. Her brain case must be a low buck model US model, not a Toyota model. ;)

    I would keep an eye out for any antennas poking out of the bun on top of her head.

  54. 54
    Comrade Jake says:

    Just watched the new CBS video with the two of them. I think that’s the most uncomfortable I’ve ever seen McCain look.

    They look like two people desperately trying to convince the immigration officer that they’re married. There’s this real sense of forced chemistry.

    You wonder if McCain doesn’t have some notion of just how much of a joke his campaign has become.

  55. 55
    Dave says:

    This argument makes no sense to me. By arguing she is being held back, that makes the expectations higher for the debate. And then when she craters, the blowback is even worse than if everyone had just gone into the debate thinking she was a dolt.

    Only McMaverick could take a shit sandwich and make it less tasty.

  56. 56
    Zuzu Hussein's Petals says:

    Now that McCain’s “leadership” has cratered on the bailout bill, and now that Palin has made herself a laughingstock, I look for both of them to begin referring to Barrack Hussein Obama starting tomorrow.

    One reason I’m signing my e-mails, etc. with “Hussein” as my middle name until the election, and trying to get all my friends to do so too. Hilarious to get a note from my sister signed “Susie Hussein Smith.”*

    Sincerely, Zuzu Husssein’s Petals

    *An alias to protect the innocent.

  57. 57
    Comrade Jake says:

    The teleprompter thing at the debate is a joke, right?

    I mean, right? Do we have a link for that? That can’t be.

  58. 58
    Comrade NonyNony says:

    I can only hope that is true. If all of the stories about McCain’s grandstanding actually hurting the negotiations in congress are accurate, I can’t imagine it’s going to make him look good to these guys. If keeps pulling stunts like this, and Palin keeps imploding, I think we go from a question of whether or not Obama wins to how many red states turn blue.

    From your keyboard to god’s eyes, my friend. However, I think most of the guys who are really peeved about this missed bailout are blue-state Republicans – guys in New York, California, Chicago. With some of the smarter Country Club types across the country, of course, but probably not in sufficient numbers to flip red states to blue.

    However, the money stream may get cut off. Which would be nice, because the ultimate endgame I’d like to see is a realignment where the Dems move leftward (hitting a liberal area at least somewhere around the Labor party in the UK or the Liberal party in Canada) and the Republicans are forced to move leftward as well (hitting a conservative area around the Convservative party in either Canada or the UK). That kind of dynamic would be a lot healthier for the country.

  59. 59
    Monday Night Football says:

    Hmm… I hate the Stillers… I hate the Purple Birds… who to cheer to lose?

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    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака says:

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  61. 61
    RoonieRoo says:

    Fun facts for the day!

    I just tried to get to the House website to email my congress critter. I can’t since it appears to be DOWN! Ha!

    Contrast this with a lovely day of not one single WordPress error for me.

    House of Rep’s website – Toast
    Balloon-Juice – Rockin’ along

    It just makes me giggle.

  62. 62
    Polish the Guillotines (formerly FLILF Hunter) says:

    Now I hear, they want a teleprompter for her at the debate.

    Oh, man. I so hope this is true. Anchorman anyone?

    MODERATOR: “Governor Palin. Your closing statement.”

    CARIBOU BARBIE: “Fuck you, San Diego.”

  63. 63
    Conservatively Liberal says:

    Shorter Keith Olbermann: Obama, Bush and Palin say striking in Pakistan is necessary, and McCain is against it. Why is Senator McCain so soft on terrorism?

    Love it!

  64. 64
    JL says:

    I just watched the McCain/Palin interview. Was that Palin playing Palin or Tina Fey playing Palin?

    Couric: What did you learn from this experience. Palin: This is all about gotcha journalism. A lot of it is but that’s okay, too.

  65. 65
    dslak says:

    These teleprompter rumors appear to have originated on this thread, in a command by Peter J, which I assume was snark.

    By arguing she is being held back, that makes the expectations higher for the debate.

    When you’re in a tight spot, my friend, you double down. I mean, you don’t blink.
    /Sarah Palin

  66. 66
    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck says:

    MCcain TAKES CREDIT FOR BILL BEFORE IT LOSES

    As the Worm Turns.

  67. 67
    jibeaux says:

    S,N!

    Sarah Palin, for all of her charisma and political savvy, knows nothing. Again, wingnuts, I will repeat that so it hopefully sets in: SARAH PALIN KNOWS NOTHING. This is why the McCain campaign is keeping her away from the eeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiilllllll reporters who are asking her policy questions. Because SHE KNOWS NOOOOOOTHIIIIIIIIING. If that doesn’t disturb you in the least, then you really have no business trying to run the country.

    This is, well, it’s pretty much it, isn’t it?

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    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse says:

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    Comrade Jake says:

    The best part was Katie stating: “WTF? A question from a voter is a gotcha?”

    Memo to Katie: up is down, black is white, and it’s all Obama’s fault.

  70. 70
    Kathy says:

    I hear that Gwen Ifill is being told to take it easy on the fetching Governor Palin. I would so love to see Gwen conduct the debate in the following way-

    “Senator Biden, how would the Obama campaign react to Israel conducting a bombing raid on the Iranian nuclear facilities?
    Governor Palin, who is doing the flowers for Bristol’s wedding?

    Senator Biden, do you believe that the Surge has achieved the political solutions promised?
    Governor Palin, will you be using Moose antlers when decorating the Vice President’s residence?

    Senator Biden, do you think that Sect. Paulson did the right thing by not bailing out Lehman Brothers?
    Governor Palin, what made you choose that shade of lipstick tonight?

    Condescending? yes, but it’s what the McCain camp wants.

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    cleek says:

    Don’t worry, none of them work.

    maybe you could focus on the positive: you can post

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    jrg says:

    I think most of the guys who are really peeved about this missed bailout are blue-state Republicans – guys in New York, California, Chicago. With some of the smarter Country Club types across the country, of course, but probably not in sufficient numbers to flip red states to blue.

    Charlotte, N.C. is the second largest banking headquarters in the United States after New York City.

    I really think N.C. could be blue this year, I’ve heard multiple former dyed-in-the-wool Republican relatives say they will vote for Obama, including an evangelical and a self-made millionaire.

    Between the Palin idiocy and McCain’s monkeying with the economy, I think N.C. might be in reach. Sully has the details.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    CL @ 53

    Her brain case must be a low buck model US model, not a Toyota model.

    Cool. She could drive up to the podium in a Tachikoma.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Fareed Zakaria, dismantling Palin on Blitzer’s show.

    He doesn’t come in until around 3:30 in.

    He makes the point that what’s most damaging is that Palin didn’t even understand some of the questions Katie posed. Among other jabs, he says that being the governor of Alaska, where you’re just drilling holes in the ground and giving money to people, is better preparation to be President of Saudi Arabia.

    And Wolf’s a grade-A moron.

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    reid says:

    If it was the same segment I watched (mid-afternoon), at least the woman from salon.com that was also on (Walsh?) almost immediately said something like, “Why? She was just reading from a teleprompter!”. I was shocked that a pundit was showing such good sense. The whole campaign has been such a farce. I can only imagine the chunks of cheeto-spittle that would be erupting from the right if it was the Democratic campaign.

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    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck says:

    Dispatch from the Funhouse. Today’s example of change you can wonder about, and unflailable wingnut logic.

    Excerpt from Couric, Mcnut, Palidan interview.

    Wait a minute,” McCain said. “Before you say, “is she sorry she said it,” this was a “gotcha” sound bite that, look …”

    “It wasn’t a “gotcha.” She was talking to a voter,” Couric said.

    “No, she was in a conversation with a group of people and talking back and forth. And,” McCain said. “I’ll let Gov. Palin speak for herself.’

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    JL says:

    The Asian Markets are down 562..

  78. 78
    Annette says:

    New WordPress = FAIL

    No.

    Old, outdated plugins that behave inconsistently, along with poor template coding = FAIL

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    4tehlulz says:

    Cool. She could drive up to the podium in a Tachikoma.

    NOOOO!! Then the tachikoma will die a horrible death!

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    In other news, Nikkei down 5 percent.

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    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака says:

    Wow, Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака, that looks great. But have you used Page Source to see what WP has done to your table code? Or is the stream of orphan closing tags at the end actually the trick?

    That is kind of weird, since table data tags don’t need to be closed, but no. The trick is that wordpress translates “& lt;” (without the space) into a less-than sign before it publishes the page. (If you want to use a less-than sign in your post, you have to replace the ampersand with the ampersand code for ampersand.) You can probably use pretty much any HTML code you want as long as you go through and replace all the &lt; with &&shy;lt; and the &gt; with &&shy;gt;.

    [I have no idea if those rendered correctly, since I put soft hyphens in the middle of “&&shy;lt;” and “&&shy;gt;” to keep them from converting.]

    Remember, use your powers for good, and not for evil. It’s probably really easy to break shit.

  82. 82
    Polish the Guillotines (formerly FLILF Hunter) says:

    Fareed Zakaria, dismantling Palin on Blitzer’s show.

    “Dismantling” doesn’t really do it justice. This is the most straight-faced, surgical evisceration of Palin I’ve seen yet. Christ. By the end, he’s wearing her skin as a dress.

  83. 83
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    No.

    Old, outdated plugins that behave inconsistently = FAIL

    Sigh. Now you’ve pissed off Annette.

  84. 84
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Charlotte, N.C. is the second largest banking headquarters in the United States after New York City.

    Not for much longer…

  85. 85
    Kali's Little Sister says:

    Well, as Senator McCain eh,ah is suggesting here also, never would our administration get out there and show our cards to ahhh, terrorists, in this case to enemy, and let them know what the game plan was. Not when that could ultimately adversely affect a plan to keep America secure.

    So, spilling the beans to random guys in pizza joints is A-OK? Let’s hope the terrorists don’t catch wind of this.

  86. 86

    Will someone please tell the GOP its Damsel in Distress fetish has gotten way out of control? First Palin had to be defended from ravening hordes of nasty reporters out to sully her virtue. Now her own damn party has her strapped to the train tracks. Ooo, I feel faint. WTF? If she’s that delicate maybe she should be wrapped in tissue paper and put back in her box.

    And to think there are Clinton supporters who might vote Republican because it’s the more wymyny wimminish party all of a sudden. Wow.

    Gotta be something in the water.

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    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака says:

    Wait, I fucked it up. Let’s try this:

    You have to replace &lt; with &&shy;amp;lt; and &gt; with &&shy;amp;gt;

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    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака says:

    No, I had it right the first time, I think. Now I’m confused.

    Sigh. Now you’ve pissed off Annette.

    Indeed.

    I’m so sorry! I’m not worty! All Hail WordPress!

  89. 89
    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака says:

    Or worthy. I assure you that I am free of warts, in any case.

  90. 90
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    “Dismantling” doesn’t really do it justice. This is the most straight-faced, surgical evisceration of Palin I’ve seen yet. Christ. By the end, he’s wearing her skin as a dress.

    Well, yeah, but after all, he’s kinda brown. And probably a sexist. Hey didja know McCain was a POW?

  91. 91
    Conservatively Liberal says:

    Cool. She could drive up to the podium in a Tachikoma.

    NOOOO!! Then the tachikoma will die a horrible death!

    Yes, but they would be doing it to save us from nuclear war. That or they would just spit her out like a turd. Remember, they are thinking beings and know crap when they see it. Though they are curious and one might want to connect to her inferior brain case, which could turn the Tachikoma into a berserker.

    Damn that natural oil! Shoulda stuck to the synthetic.

  92. 92
    Comrade Jake says:

    Fareed’s a very smart guy.

    Cue the righties screaming “But what kind of a name is Zakaria?!?!? Is he a terrorist?”

  93. 93
    gbear says:

    Annette, can you work this into the new site? Please oh please.

  94. 94
    jibeaux says:

    If you plug N.C. into the RealClearPolitics EV map and click on the option to eliminate toss-ups, N.C.’s blue.

    Count one more formerly undecided (N.C.) voter for Obama as of today — guy in my office, former Republican, I’ve been giving him a soft sell every now and again. Yesterday he found out about McCain’s plan to tax employers’ health insurance benefits. That was evidently the bucket of fail that broke the elephant’s back.

  95. 95
    Annette says:

    Sigh. Now you’ve pissed off Annette

    Nah. I have coffee, some ice cream, football on the tube, a cat on my desk, and the dogs under my chair. It’s a beautiful evening. What could interrupt that? Except for the person who can’t grasp that their email address is actually a .net rather than the .com they’re trying to use, and the person who does not understand after being gently instructed several times that what they want in their DNS zone is not possible to put there, that is.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Nah. I have coffee, some ice cream, football on the tube, a cat on my desk, and the dogs under my chair. It’s a beautiful evening.

    Are you a Steelers fan or a Ravens fan?

    Pssst. There’s no wrong answer.

  97. 97
    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse says:

    Annette? You need a blog of your own, or you should at least come in here regularly to update us on the massive cluelessness you face every day. As a great lady used to say, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, come sit by me”.

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    t jasper parnell says:

    If I heard the video correctly, McCain said of course he would attack across borders but you don’t say that out loud. Remember when Obama said No, I wouldn’t drop a nuclear bomb on a terrorist camp in the dessert or desert and everyone serious cried “take nothing off the table.” First which is it? And secondly, what is wrong with telling the American people the truth about foreign policy? Does McCain and Co fear that the American people, as it were, cannot handle the truth?

  99. 99
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    It’s a beautiful evening. What could interrupt that?

    An international economy in meltdown, a lack of political leadership at the very top of our government, and a House of Representatives full of crazed supply-side Republicans?

  100. 100

    It’s all about Occam’s Razor, folks.

    Palin was plucked from obscurity and from one of the 2 most isolated states in the country. Palin has never been in the national spotlight before it was announced that she was a VP candidate. Being a VP nominee is a ton of pressure and stress and we pretty much know she had no clue that the offer was coming. She had zero preperation time and they didn’t vet her or ask the obvious– is this a wise choice? The McCain campaign placed a pretty blind bet that she’d be able to handle it all.

    Palin can’t be herself because her head is filled with other people’s talking points, other people’s ideas about complex domestic and foreign issues. That kind of info cramming only gets a person so far– talking like you actually understand an issue does actually count for something. I don’t care how smart she may or may not be, because this isn’t about intelligence, this is about knowledge that she just doesn’t have. In other words, she can’t pass for someone in the know because she just doesn’t know that much about SO much. Forget her new passport, what about her experience in the “real” US? Alaska has a culture all to itself that is pretty different from the rest of the country– it’s not just a remote version of Minnesota.

    So far they’re losing their big gamble and have violated the “do no harm” rule of VP politics. Fortunately for them she’s become a joke right before her one last HUGE chance to prove that she’s not as funny as Tina Fay’s imitation of her. But if she blows it, well, her chances (and McCain’s) are blown. But the pressure is on higher and harder than ever before– can she handle it?

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    Kali's Little Sister says:

    So McCain rode in to claim credit for a deeply unpopular bailout bill. If it succeeds, we have a big crappy, painful bailout bill. If it fails, the global economy is at risk and again,pain is assured.

    I have not been in the military, so I am curious if I have this analogy correct: did McCain fall on his grenade with this one?

  102. 102
    cleek says:

    First which is it?

    if you’re a Democrat, you’re never right. QED.

  103. 103
    Comrade Jake says:

    did McCain fall on his grenade with this one?

    I think it’s more precise to say that he stepped on his dick.

  104. 104
    TheFountainHead says:

    I have not been in the military, so I am curious if I have this analogy correct: did McCain fall on his grenade with this one?

    More like he’s the keyboard commando who proclaims he knows grenades, inside and out, always has, he’s practically a grenade professional (I mean, not really, it’s just a hobby for now, but he could totally go professional) and then declares the grenade is a dud and utterly harmless and while he’s swinging it around and banging it against things to demonstrate how harmless it is, it goes off in his face.

  105. 105
    jibeaux says:

    My Occam’s Razor conclusion was that the campaign is staffed by ferrets, but yours makes sense too, Zoe.

  106. 106
    Rosali says:

    If Biden, in his debate with Palin, said something similar to “Noun, Verb,& 9/11”, would he be criticized for going too hard on her?

  107. 107
    t jasper parnell says:

    If Biden, in his debate with Palin, said something similar to “Noun, Verb,& 9/11”, would he be criticized for going too hard on her?

    As near as I can figure, given that her syntax seems to be “random noun inappropriate verb adverbial phrase adjective adjective random noun meaningless verb” he would be accused of giving her too much credit.

  108. 108
    nicethugbert says:

    I heard they want to put her the teleprompter permantely. Even after she losses the election.

  109. 109
    TheFountainHead says:

    Heh. “Noun adjective helping verb conjunction blink.” I would die.

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    By the end, he’s wearing her skin as a dress.

    It puts the lotion on its skin.

    Actually, I’ll be shocked if the fReichtards don’t claim his piece was a death threat. Someone go check Atlas Jugs. Is Pam screaming about fatwas?

  111. 111
    cyntax says:

    Holy crap! Nate just put up new poll numbers over 538 and the momentum is definitely still going Obama’s way. Electoral vote count: 329.3 to 208.7. To say nothing of the win percentage…

  112. 112
    Darkness says:

    I can only hope that is true. If all of the stories about McCain’s grandstanding actually hurting the negotiations in congress are accurate, I can’t imagine it’s going to make him look good to these guys.

    I don’t know. The repubs were clearly looking for someone to blame for their voting the way they did and McCain is as good a candidate as Pelosi for that, so it seems. Come on, they should thank him (in secret) for taking that leadership load off them, you know, the one where they stand up for their own decisions. Gosh, it’s amazing how fast the republicans turned into the democrats once they got out of the majority. Less than two years…it’s gotta be a record.

  113. 113
    srv says:

    She could drive up to the podium in a Tachikoma.

    You know, all this drama over the economy that we’ve predicted for the last several years coming true aside, the very worst news I’ve heard this year? Spielberg bought rights to a live action GitS…

    That and the rumor Keanu will play Spike in Cowyboy Bebop…. ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

  114. 114
    Comrade Jake says:

    Holy crap! Nate just put up new poll numbers over 538 and the momentum is definitely still going Obama’s way. Electoral vote count: 329.3 to 208.7. To say nothing of the win percentage.

    Cue MSM narrative: with the McCain campaign in absolute, complete fucking disarray, and a VP with a room-temperature IQ, why isn’t Obama leading by more in the polls? Is America ready for a black President???

  115. 115
    Kali's Little Sister says:

    Nate just put up new poll numbers over 538 and the momentum is definitely still going Obama’s way. Electoral vote count: 329.3 to 208.7

    Oh crap! This is going to be sooo good for McCain!

  116. 116
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    Is America ready for a black President???

    Comrade Jake, you forgot to add, “Will the Bradley Effect lead to an election day upset?”

  117. 117
    oh really says:

    Palin being Palin.

    Go to TBogg and watch the clip with McCain, Palin, and Couric. It is unbelievable.

    McCain is…

    There are no words for what McCain is.

  118. 118
    jrg says:

    Count one more formerly undecided (N.C.) voter for Obama as of today

    There you go. We’re getting them one at a time. Now all we need to do is make sure they get to the polls.

    Early voting in N.C. starts October the 16th.

    Spread the word. We need to get there firstest with the mostest!

  119. 119
    cyntax says:

    …why isn’t Obama leading by more in the polls?

    Point taken. I’ll reign in my irrational exuberance and get out the hip waders.

  120. 120
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    It puts the lotion on its skin.

    Like this?

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Why is Obama struggling with the creepy, angry old white man demographic?

  122. 122
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Spielberg bought rights to a live action GitS…

    That and the rumor Keanu will play Spike in Cowyboy Bebop…. ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

    Squee. Almost as bad as a Merkin version of Life on Mars.

    (Gosh. Preview is not your friend.)

  123. 123
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Is America ready for a black President???

    Oh no you don’t. I’ve already gotten in trouble with that once today.

  124. 124
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    Almost as bad as a Merkin version of Life on Mars.

    Nothing is as bad as the American version of Coupling.

  125. 125
    SamFromUtah says:

    That and the rumor Keanu will play Spike in Cowyboy Bebop…. ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

    Oh, no…. no no nonononono.

    Although if they cast Faye Valentine right, I would still go see it.

  126. 126
    jibeaux says:

    Now all we need to do is make sure they get to the polls.

    I have done one round of door-knocking. This does not come naturally to me at ALL. I am an introvert. But you go to Dem and unaffiliated households, so I think you’re pretty unlikely to run up against the “Secret Moooslim marxist” type voter anyway, but the experience was quite pleasant. 3/4 of people aren’t home/don’t answer, so that’s straightforward enough. And everyone who did answer was pleasant and civil, even McCain voters. The Obama voters are excited, and the leaners were leaning Obama. It is actually quite a decent way to spend an afternoon, and good exercise, too.

  127. 127
    Comrade NonyNony says:

    Count one more formerly undecided (N.C.) voter for Obama as of today—guy in my office, former Republican, I’ve been giving him a soft sell every now and again. Yesterday he found out about McCain’s plan to tax employers’ health insurance benefits. That was evidently the bucket of fail that broke the elephant’s back.

    Yeah. I’ve been figuring that if more folks actually knew the ramifications of McCain’s “health care plan” and that those ramifications are intentional and represent what McCain (or at least his campaign) really think is wrong with our health care system, the response would be along the lines of “WTF? I can’t afford that!” and the exodus to Obama’s side would be huge. Because the ramifications are really, really awful and the underlying idea of “what’s wrong with the health care system” is the mark of someone who doesn’t realize that people actually want a health care system that helps them, not one that actively encourages them not to use it.

    (And I didn’t realize that Charlotte was such a huge HQ for banking. Good to know. NC was trending blue already, if this pushes it over the edge I will laugh for a week.)

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Although if they cast Faye Valentine right, I would still go see it.

    Well, duh.

    I’m thinking a fusion of Bebop, Gantz, and Gauntlet 3.

  129. 129
    Charity says:

    What do you think David Letterman will do tonight, now that the bailout bill McCain blew him off for last week has failed?

    *rubs hands together gleefully*

  130. 130
    jenniebee says:

    It was – I hope we can all agree on this – it was an embarrassment when Sen. Clinton was asked “pearls or diamonds” in a primary debate. That was irresponsible. It was demeaning to her abilities and her considerable knowledge base (does she have problems and faults? yes, plenty of them, but vapidity isn’t one of them). And it was sexist. And I say this in a totally fuck-the-pumas kind of way, and I’m not denying that Obama faced a lot of racism in the primaries too, but our Hills got as many comments about her pantsuits as she did about her policy, and that stunk.

    And now, the Richt is claiming sexism and unfair treatment of their poor wittle sawah bawaccuda pitbull with lipstick because her is asked such mean awful hard questions wike: “could you explain what you meant by that?” and “what is your plan?” Well, FUCK YOU SARAH. We have a democratic woman who’s in the Meir/Thatcher/Indira Gandhi league, who fought hard to get as far as she did and made real strides to show up CNN for daring to present such empty, stupid questions to a female candidate. And what, four months later, you’re asking them to take it easy on you when what they’re asking is already style weakly softball questions just for poor wittle sawah.

    The McCain campaign doesn’t think it’s right to play such gotcha journalism as asking “besides Roe v. Wade can you name a supreme court decision?” Fine. Here’s my list of questions for poor wittle Sarah:

    Cindy McCain’s outfit at the Republican convention drew some controversy because it had a $300,000 price tag. How would you advise her to accessorize it on future occasions?
    Your seventeen year old daughter’s baby is due this December. What are you most looking forward to about being a grandmother?
    Wasilla Alaska has a population of around 7,000 people. Last year, 42 meth labs were discovered there. How many people per meth lab is that?
    John McCain has blamed the current financial crisis on corporate greed. Where did you get those shoes?
    When you canceled the Bridge to Nowhere project, you kept the money that was allocated for it. Been to any good parties lately?
    Recently, much has been made of some of the statements made at your former church concerning witchcraft. What have you done to keep Alaska’s witch problem in check and what further measures do you think are necessary to protect America from the forces of voodoo?
    In recent years, the United States has been pummeled by Hurricanes Katrina, Gustav and Ike. What’s the weather like in your neck of the woods?
    Many people are upset that, during your tenure as mayor of Wasilla, you attempted to charge rape victims for the cost of the kits used to collect evidence of the rape. What are the good things about that idea that these critics aren’t considering?
    Some concern has been expressed that your body of knowledge on policy, both foreign and domestic, is inadequate for the job you’re asking the American people to hire you for, and some of the calls you’ve made in your tenure as mayor, governor, and vice presidential candidate have called your judgment into question. What would you like to say to people who doubt your abilities?

    Gwen Ifill, you may steal from this list at will.

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    Brian J says:

    From your keyboard to god’s eyes, my friend. However, I think most of the guys who are really peeved about this missed bailout are blue-state Republicans – guys in New York, California, Chicago. With some of the smarter Country Club types across the country, of course, but probably not in sufficient numbers to flip red states to blue.

    I don’t know how quickly the shit can hit the fan, but if people can become worrisome enough before the election, and if there are enough people who would start to let this sense of fear influence their votes, I think we could see a few red states flip to blue. This is a guess, but I’d surmise there’s enough of a presence of a money/investor/corporate class in Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, Texas, and Kentucky to make them competitive if things start to get really bad. Of course, there’s also the middle- to upper-middle class that might feel the pinch and break heavily for Obama. Granted, if things get really, really bad, and as a result a state like Texas could go for Obama, I imagine we’ve already got the votes in all of the traditional swing states plus the new ones like Indiana and North Carolina. And hell, while there may not be enough of the country club Republicans to make a state like Georgia blue, perhaps they exist in sufficient enough numbers to turn a state like Indiana blue.

  132. 132
    yam says:

    Alaska has a culture all to itself that is pretty different from the rest of the country—it’s not just a remote version of Minnesota.

    Now wait a minute — I’m from Minnesota and I don’t want to hear anything about know-nothing, godbothering, Republican free-marketeering, goofball governors as we wouldn’t put up with…

    Uh…

    Crap. Never mind.

  133. 133
    Comrade Josh Vondoktorpepper says:

    I just watched The Seventh Seal and I am suddenly calm about whatever is coming our way.

  134. 134
    Laura W says:

    Hollerin’ out a question.

    Who the FUCK says HOLLERIN’?
    Maybe a pig farmer in Appalachia? Apologies to pig farmers, and Appalachians.

    N.C.’s blue.

    Shit yeah.
    I moved here from CO in 12/06, and I take personal credit for both CO and NC turning blue this year.
    Why?
    BECAUSE I WORE MCCAIN’S POW BRACELET IN HIGH SCHOOL, THAT’S WHY!

    What a disgusting week it’s been. All but for Friday night. The ugly needs to come to an end real soon. Before I totally blow my liver, and my brains, out.

  135. 135
    Foxhunter says:

    while there may not be enough of the country club Republicans to make a state like Georgia blue

    While the numbers for Dems should be up in Georgia this year, don’t expect a massive revolt. We are a long way from blue here once you get ouside of the perimeter (I-285). Hopefully things will improve over time, but it will be an uphill battle.

    I see that GOS posted a tracking poll showing a tightened race for Sen. Saxby Chambliss’ seat (challenger is Jim Martin). This has to be an outlier with 26% undecided, so if you see that poll, don’t get your hopes up for Georgia. We are ALMOST as red as Alabama…and not because of Saturday’s results at Sanford Stadium.

  136. 136
    cyntax says:

    Comrade Jake Says:
    September 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
    Why is Obama struggling with the creepy, angry old white man demographic?

    I’m just gonna go all-in and ask the real question: why hasn’t Obama found a way to win the election before Nov 4th?

  137. 137
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    This is a guess, but I’d surmise there’s enough of a presence of a money/investor/corporate class in Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, Texas, and Kentucky to make them competitive if things start to get really bad.

    The markets seem perilously close to going into a feedback cycle where declines in the overseas markets lead to further declines in the American markets which lead to…
    If the slide continues, regular working people with 401K’s are going to be slammed and there will be hell to pay. That is likely the driver behind Boehner’s lame-ass attempt to blame Pelosi, and McCain’s equally lame-ass attempt to blame Obama, for the bills failure to pass.

  138. 138
    Conservatively Liberal says:

    If Biden, in his debate with Palin, said something similar to “Noun, Verb,& 9/11”, would he be criticized for going too hard on her?

    How about “a noun, a verb & utter nonsense”?

    You know, all this drama over the economy that we’ve predicted for the last several years coming true aside, the very worst news I’ve heard this year? Spielberg bought rights to a live action GitS…

    That ought to be an overproduced mess.

    That and the rumor Keanu will play Spike in Cowyboy Bebop…. ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

    Looks? No too bad. Acting? Ouch. I wonder who they would get to play Jet Black? Need a white Mr. T type…lol! Ein was a favorite ‘character’, and the girl hacker (Edward) too.

    Though I do like Spike’s attitude and how he deals with things. I wonder if they would do the Bebop up like the series. It looks like a flying piece of junk but that just makes it better to see in action!

  139. 139
    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    I just watched The Seventh Seal and I am suddenly calm about whatever is coming our way.

    Love me that movie!

    “We must make an idol of our fear, and call it god.”

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    Kali's Little Sister says:

    On the PBS site you can suggest questions for the debate.

    One person wrote in only to ask if Palin will be searched for a wire. Made me think about this “Debate Bootcamp” in AZ. Since it is painfully evident no amount of cramming will fill the void, are they just going to insert a chip?

  141. 141
    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck says:

    I just watched The Seventh Seal and I am suddenly calm about whatever is coming our way.

    We better git one hell of a chess player for this to turn out right.

  142. 142
    Bostondreams says:

    If the slide continues, regular working people with 401K’s are going to be slammed and there will be hell to pay.

    My wife checked her 401k tonight, just for shits and giggles, though she checked it last night. Tonight…tonight the number was 2 grand smaller. in one day. 2 grand. God.

    Saw the commercial with Obama talking to America about the economy…about dealing with wall street..about new reform and oversight..’pain is trickling up.’ great commercial. great timing.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Christ, I miss the days when ya had to be one tenacious motherfucker to comment. Now anyone can post any old thing any time and I don’t have the time to wade thru it all. :(

  144. 144
    Comrade Jake says:

    So, WTF is wrong with Ohio? McCain is still up a nudge there.

    I’m beginning to wonder if it’s not simply a backwards state.

  145. 145
    Annette says:

    123

    Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.

    The public will believe anything, so long as it is not founded on truth.

  146. 146

    Christ, I miss the days when ya had to be one tenacious motherfucker to comment. Now anyone can post any old thing any time and I don’t have the time to wade thru it all. :(

    I know. I feel all lost in the madness now.

  147. 147
    BH-Buck says:

    Table test

    cell-1
    cell-2

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    I give up on the tags for now. Jeez.

  149. 149
    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck says:

    The public will believe anything, so long as it is not founded on truth.

    By Golly, I think we’ve assimilated Annette.

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    jrg says:

    One person wrote in only to ask if Palin will be searched for a wire

    I hope she is wearing a wire. Can you imagine how confusing that would be for her?

    The voices from the radio would be entering her right brain, while Biden’s voice enters her left brain. It gets parsed into nonsense, and regurgitated as broken English.

    Pretty soon, she sounds like Al Sharpton with a concussion, only she’s white, Canadian, and pissed off at teh left.

  151. 151
    Eric U. says:

    So, WTF is wrong with Ohio? McCain is still up a nudge there.

    I’m beginning to wonder if it’s not simply a backwards state.

    there is something to that. Southern Ohio was the final settling place of one of the largest peacetime migrations in history, after WWII. 6 million people moved from West Virginia to Detroit, but ran out of money somewhere south of Dayton. I lived just outside of Dayton in the ’80s when I was at Wright-Patt. There were people there who had Southern accents that were not understandable by Americans, just like when I was growing up in Appalachia.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    By Golly, I think we’ve assimilated Annette.

    Resistance is futile!

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    slip says:

    Testing…

    There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home. ( clicks heels )

    shit.

  154. 154
    BH-Buck says:

    Well that didn’t work. hmmm…

  155. 155
    Eric U. says:

    Testing…

    There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home. ( clicks heels )

    shit.

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    Brian J says:

    So, WTF is wrong with Ohio? McCain is still up a nudge there.

    Perhaps what we see in states like North Carolina isn’t showing up in Ohio just yet.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    The voices from the radio would be entering her right brain, while Biden’s voice enters her left brain.

    And both get mixed up with the voices in her head.

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    That and the rumor Keanu will play Spike in Cowyboy Bebop…. ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

    Jesus God All Mighty that isn’t even funny. I wouldn’t cast Reeves to play the damn corgi. I wouldn’t cast him to play the mold thing that grew in the fridge and ran amok. I wouldn’t cast Reeves to play the fucking fridge. What the fuck next? Carrot Top will play Ed?

    Gah. The very thought makes me want to punch a nun in the face.

    Like this?

    I nearly linked to that but the last time I sprang it on an unsuspecting crowd I got in BIG trouble.

    The night is very cold, I’m feeling kind of weak/I think I’ll make myself a cap from your right buttocks cheek.

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    BH-Buck says:

    Blockquotes work nicely.

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    Martin says:

    Old, outdated plugins that behave inconsistently, along with poor template coding = FAIL

    John used to be a Republican. That’s left over from his ‘drown the blog in a bathtub’ days.

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    Scott H says:

    456

    When you look into the code, the code also looks into you.

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    Martin says:

    So, WTF is wrong with Ohio? McCain is still up a nudge there.

    Johnny Drama still white? Yep.

    SATSQ

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    Annette says:

    Starting to hate this plugin.

    True originality consists not in a new manner but in a new vision.

    Problem: it’s wrapping paragraph tags

    and quote tags together

    when it shouldn’t, and closing off the quote prematurely.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    The voices from the radio would be entering her right brain, while Biden’s voice enters her left brain. It gets parsed into nonsense, and regurgitated as broken English.

    LOL. That would be a perfect SNL skit.

    It reminds me of Robin Williams playing Reagan on SNL. He was giving a press conference and started to pick up air traffic control in his earpiece, and just started blabbering nonsense to the reporters.

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    BH-Buck says:

    Annette, I got a pretty decent quicktags file if you want to see it. I’ve got it trimmed down to the bare basics, but it does include an image button (which I can remove).

    If interested, here’s the link.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    In new Amerikka, html codes you!

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    Martin says:

    By Golly, I think we’ve assimilated Annette.

    She needs to replace the counting with profanity, but yeah, she’s coming along nicely.

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    BH-Buck says:

    Annette, I just noticed something. May explain why you’re running into problems. Your header file is in error. It lists the quicktags script twice. One is a “plus” version. Would you need them both?

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    Comrade Tax Analyst says:

    She thinks that was a Palin impersonator sitting with Couric

    “Durn thet Tina Fey…she’s always stirrin’ up treble fer purr Sayrah”

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    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse says:

    This version of WP accepts one line break in blockquotes, but goes batshit if there are 2 or more line breaks in a row. But you have to go to commenting with the blockquote hacks you have, not th ones you want.

    Method 1

    Put every para

    in a separate

    set of tags

    Method 2

    Use one set

    of tags but

    put three periods

    in between each para

    The second method might look screwy on preview, but it works. These should hold us until Annette shakes these old plug-ins into submission.

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    oh really says:

    One person wrote in only to ask if Palin will be searched for a wire

    I hope she is wearing a wire. Can you imagine how confusing that would be for her?

    My guess is Palin is already hearing voices (The Baby Jeebus speaks to those who listen).

    If she gets some handler and the Baby J rattling around inside her brain at the same time, her responses might be, dare I say it, incoherent. Of course, how could we tell the difference between Palin’s everyday total incoherence and her too many voices at one time incoherence?

    Obviously, Gwen Ifil will have to strip search Palin.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    I’d bet that you could replace Palin with Tina Fey and McCain wouldn’t even notice.

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    Annette says:

    This version of WP accepts one line break in blockquotes, but goes batshit if there are 2 or more line breaks in a row. But you have to go to commenting with the blockquote hacks you have, not th ones you want

    I had done that same test in the “you are here” thread, and found that it worked. Between this plugin (which unnecessarily duplicated items in two files) and this template (which has Issues), things are a mess around here.

    Buck: that’s a remnant of whoever did the templating. I decided way back that networking and sysadmin work was much better for me and dropped the route that would have ultimately ended with me fixing other peoples’ code. Look where that got me: primarily working in the former field while still also getting into the latter from time to time. Just tattoo “sucker” on my forehead already…

    There will come soft rains

    and the smell of the ground…

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    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck says:

    There will come soft rains

    and the smell of the ground

    It was a dark and stormy night

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    Annette says:

    Oh, and I’ll add that this quote issue doesn’t really have anything to do with WP itself. This plugin works without a hitch on this very same server, under a test install of WP. I’m leaning toward it relaly being an overall issue with the template – I’m biased because it’s messy.

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    Scott H says:

    Hack Sarah’s wire with some binaural beats and lock her down in deep delta. It’s what 素子 would do.

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    If she gets some handler and the Baby J rattling around inside her brain at the same time, her responses might be, dare I say it, incoherent.

    Or you might get some sort of Ritalin effect.

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    There will come soft rains

    and the smell of the ground

    Sara Teasdale? Never thought I’d see that around here.

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    BH-Buck says:

    Annette, true. The CSS file is a bit scary to look at too. ;-)

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    mannemalon says:

    can we got some lines separating posts?

    It’s kinda tough on the eyes.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    NOW CNN is finally getting around to explaining just why we need some plan to fix the economy. A week too late, after hearing “bailout bailout bailout” 24/7, they’re finally saying “It’s not about Wall Street, it’s about everyone.”

    Thanks, the best political team on television. Thanks so much.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Sara Teasdale? Never thought I’d see that around here.

    What are you, some kind of reverse elitist?

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    Eric U. says:

    How hard can it be for Obama’s guys to have a spectrum analyzer back stage guessing what kind of secret spread-spectrum radio they have given Palin? And a little jamming equipment too, because there’s probably no way to break into the signal in the time alloted. Although, the way McCain’s crew has shown themselves to be incompetent, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out it’s a hacked up baby monitor.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    can we got some lines separating posts?

    How hard would it be to throw am HR in there? I mean, just temporarily so we don’t go blind.

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    kate says:

    Testing 1 soss [back]

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    How hard would it be to throw am HR in there?

    You want HRs, go to the GOS.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Did anyone else catch the Daily Show just now and the section on old jewish voters reacting to the debate? Priceless.

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    BH-Buck says:

    Eric U. says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to find out it’s a hacked up baby monitor.

    LOL, good one!

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Did anyone else catch the Daily Show just now

    Football.

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    BH-Buck says:

    TheFountainHead, yep. Great skit!

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Who won the Steelers/Ravens game?

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    Turbulence says:

    How hard can it be for Obama’s guys to have a spectrum analyzer back stage guessing what kind of secret spread-spectrum radio they have given Palin? And a little jamming equipment too, because there’s probably no way to break into the signal in the time alloted. Although, the way McCain’s crew has shown themselves to be incompetent, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out it’s a hacked up baby monitor.

    Very very hard. Spread spectrum techniques allow transmitters to broadcast below the noise threshold. Looking for signals below the noise threshold is…kind of impossible. Jamming such signals would likely screw with the recording equipment, and probably wouldn’t work anyway.

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    demimondian says:

    The night is very cold, I’m feeling kind of weak/I think I’ll make myself a cap from your right buttocks cheek.

    Seriously, Jake. That’s…a vile, vile piece of music.

    I know, because it is still on my favorites list on Pandora.

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    gbear says:

    OMG! The VP debate is happening during the ALA’s ‘Banned Book Week’.

    What say you, Sarah?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Who won the Steelers/Ravens game

    Tied with 4 min. left.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Heh. Here’s irony. On the day of the worst point loss the DOW has ever seen, my company offers to roll me into the corporate 401K. I’m still trying to decide if that’s as dumb or dumber than putting it in my pillowcase.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Tied with 4 min. left.

    Jeesh, I guess I’ll go back to watching it then.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    I’m still trying to decide if that’s as dumb or dumber than putting it in my pillowcase.

    What’s the thread count on yer pillowcase? j/k

    They’ll pass the bailout bill by this time next week and everything’ll be okay. Well maybe not okay but not apocalyptic.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Well, I figure I might as well get my money in while the market is only likely to get sunnier…cause if it gets much worse it won’t matter in the slightest WHERE my money is.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Well, I figure I might as well get my money in while the market is only likely to get sunnier…cause if it gets much worse it won’t matter in the slightest WHERE my money is.

    Right?? Imagine how relieved I am that I’ve lived like a grasshopper the last twenty years, spending all my free cash on booze and pot. I coulda lost a lot of money.

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    Martin says:

    Jamming such signals would likely screw with the recording equipment, and probably wouldn’t work anyway.

    Not to mention the 11 million Secret Service in the building.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    OT:

    OT

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    KT says:

    Very very hard. Spread spectrum techniques allow transmitters to broadcast below the noise threshold. Looking for signals below the noise threshold is…kind of impossible. Jamming such signals would likely screw with the recording equipment, and probably wouldn’t work anyway.

    You’re over thinking it. “Breaker 19” ought to do the trick.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    If I hear one more person tell me that what we really need is for McCain’s handlers to let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin, as if the real Sarah Palin was not the one offering up rambling gibberish to Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson, but the one reading a speech at the RNC, I am going to scream.

    I realize that is the real Sarah, but, I have to agree, they need to let loose the moose of babbling. I want to see her prove it over and over and over and over and over… until every single person going to the polls is absolutely sure she is NOT qualified to be one malignant cancer cell away from the presidency.

    Btw, who knew McCain was sitting right beside Palin during the Couric interview? It seems they didn’t want anyone to know that until it became necessary to make it look like she was supported and her answers were accepted in that interview. Now it seems important for McCain to prove he was there? Hmmmmm!

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Right?? Imagine how relieved I am that I’ve lived like a grasshopper the last twenty years, spending all my free cash on booze and pot. I coulda lost a lot of money.

    Word.

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    Brian J says:

    Heh. Here’s irony. On the day of the worst point loss the DOW has ever seen, my company offers to roll me into the corporate 401K. I’m still trying to decide if that’s as dumb or dumber than putting it in my pillowcase.

    Why would that be a bad thing? I assume you’re not close to retirement and that you will get some sort of match–in other words, free money–for whatever contributions that you would make. Unless the choices you have aren’t doing well, what’s the big deal? Things will get better.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Why would that be a bad thing? I assume you’re not close to retirement and that you will get some sort of match—in other words, free money—for whatever contributions that you would make. Unless the choices you have aren’t doing well, what’s the big deal? Things will get better.

    Of course you’re right, I’m just a little gun shy at the moment.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    The republicans are demanding that they are allowed to set up a teleprompter at the debate, if they aren’t allowed to do so, Palin will not debate.

    So what you’re saying is they want her to read off prepared statements of positions?

    So Sarah has no skill in articulating these things herself? Say it isn’t so!

    Free Sarah NOW!

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    Comrade Thelonious says:

    I just turned on the Steelers game and oh God my eyes! What the hell are they wearing?

    I’m normally a fan of throwback uniforms but that black/white/yellow combination makes them look like jaundiced penguins.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    I like the retro helmet design.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Well Fuck.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    I’m very torn. I love both of these teams.

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    Martin says:

    Hedge fund redemption day tomorrow. With likely no news at all on a bailout tomorrow and requests to withdraw, oh, maybe half a trillion dollars or so, I predict the markets won’t be having a sunny day.

    Well, people wanted to know what the rush was…

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Well, people wanted to know what the rush was…

    Exactly. Ya can’t tell Republicans a damn thing so let reality smack ’em in the face. She’s a bitch.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    That kick was close. Damn.

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    KT says:

    Hedge fund redemption day tomorrow. With likely no news at all on a bailout tomorrow and requests to withdraw, oh, maybe half a trillion dollars or so, I predict the markets won’t be having a sunny day.

    The S.E.C could just issue a trading halt, couldn’t they?

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    TheFountainHead says:

    The S.E.C could just issue a trading halt, couldn’t they?

    They could. They likely won’t, but it’s certainly not a crazy idea.

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    Brian J says:

    Of course you’re right, I’m just a little gun shy at the moment.

    I feel you.

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    Brian J says:

    The republicans are demanding that they are allowed to set up a teleprompter at the debate, if they aren’t allowed to do so, Palin will not debate.

    Is this true? If so, I’m not sure if it’s say to say I’m not in lucid dream.

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    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse says:

    And this is how rumours start. Guys, the teleprompter thing was a joke many, many comments ago. Chill.

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    Brian J says:

    And this is how rumours start. Guys, the teleprompter thing was a joke many, many comments ago. Chill.

    There was legitimate speculation that the McCain campaign would announce a wedding for Sarah Palin’s daughter before election in order to draw attention away from the campaign itself, possibly trying to force both sides to sit it out for up to a week. Perhaps I’m too cynical, but I honestly wasn’t sure if the McCain camp was floating the idea of a teleprompter for the debate.

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    Martin says:

    They could. They likely won’t, but it’s certainly not a crazy idea.

    There are automatic triggers. It’s got to be a really, really shitty day for them to trigger, but they’re there.

    On the plus side, Asia is only down about 3%. Sad to say that’s a plus, but it could be worse.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    On the plus side, Asia is only down about 3%. Sad to say that’s a plus, but it could be worse.

    Actually, that’s not too bad. Could be a lot worse.

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    On the plus side, Asia is only down about 3%. Sad to say that’s a plus, but it could be worse.

    S&P futures are up about 11 points. Right now, it looks like the market is going to bounce back some in the morning. I’m not that confident that it’ll hold up.

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    Anybody have iTunes help? I just imported some albums from CD, and it won’t play the whole album. It plays one song, and then goes to something else. I manually click on the next song, it plays that, and then goes to something else. I’ve had a small number of albums it does this on already, but all the ones from today do. Anyone know how to fix this?

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    Martin says:

    S&P futures are up about 11 points. Right now, it looks like the market is going to bounce back some in the morning.

    Always some contrarians out there. I wouldn’t count on it holding either.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    Are you sure the shuffle button isn’t on??

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    It plays most of albums just fine. It isn’t even picky about genre. Painkiller, Underwater Sunlight and Brahms 8th symphony all play fine.

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    Martin says:

    Anybody have iTunes help?

    Lower left corner – the arrows that cross over each other. Turn off shuffle.

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    TheFountainHead says:

    It plays most of albums just fine. It isn’t even picky about genre. Painkiller, Underwater Sunlight and Brahms 8th symphony all play fine.

    Huh. That’s strange. Try restarting/updating iTunes?

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    No luck. It’s done this Jim Croce’s Greatest Hits for a couple of years, but that doesn’t bug me, since it’s a greatest hits album and doesn’t have flow anyway. Besides, I have it set to shuffle by album.

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    GSD says:

    John McCain wasn’t allowed to be a drama-queen for 5 and half years in Vietnam.

    -GSD

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    TheFountainHead says:

    John McCain wasn’t allowed to be a drama-queen for 5 and half years in Vietnam.

    -GSD

    He’s compensating?

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    YellowJournalism says:

    Oh, dear lord. We’re going to hear the catchphrase “gotcha journalism” repeated over and over again by McCain supporters and the far right pundits, aren’t we?

    Whoever made the parent-teacher conference analogy was dead-on. That reeked of condescending parent.

    “Is that a pizza place?” WTF?!

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Sarah Palin being Sarah Palin, was the babbling incoherency on display at CBS. That is why they are doing everything they can to hide her from the press. That is the real McCoy.

    “Babble On” the great has fallen…

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    bago says:

    You know, for once I would like to see someone take the gloves off.

    When some cutesey answer comes in the moderator should just take off their glasses, rub their eyes, and say:
    You are being interviewed for one of the most important jobs on the planet. The holder to the launch codes for thousands of nuclear weapons. Enough to destroy all life on earth. Weapons powerful enough to make 9/11 look like a bad firecracker display from a state that doesn’t have Indian reservations. This isn’t Racist, this isn’t Sexist. This is the future of the planet. Please, take some time to think about your answer.

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    bago says:

    In other words,

    Presidentin. Serious Business.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    You know, for once I would like to see someone take the gloves off.

    When some cutesey answer comes in the moderator should just take off their glasses, rub their eyes, and say:
    You are being interviewed for one of the most important jobs on the planet. The holder to the launch codes for thousands of nuclear weapons. Enough to destroy all life on earth. Weapons powerful enough to make 9/11 look like a bad firecracker display from a state that doesn’t have Indian reservations. This isn’t Racist, this isn’t Sexist. This is the future of the planet. Please, take some time to think about your answer.

    Well, send that to Gwen Ifill, perhaps she’ll take you up on it.

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    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says:

    Hmmm, I meant to blockquote the entire post of bago and it only blockquoted the first sentence. Strange.

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    bago says:

    Nesting in an xml tree? Impossible!

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    Comrade Peter J says:

    In today’s Daily Kos Research 2000 poll it’s 51-41.

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    Comrade Peter J says:

    In today’s Daily Kos Research 2000 poll it’s 51-41.

    Link Error Fixed.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    This will get lost in the clamor:
    Excerpts of Iraq PM comments on US deal
    “If I had enough funds to assist the American economy, I would do all that I can. But unfortunately Iraq cannot solve America’s economic problems.

    “But what Iraq can do is take up more responsibility security-wise here inside Iraq. And I have told the Americans repeatedly that we are ready to take up responsibility here in Iraq so there are less losses, a decreased number of American lives lost, and I am prepared to present this case before the American people. …

    “Iraqis are ready to take up security responsibility inside their country but unfortunately there is not much Iraq can do regarding helping the American economy. And I do understand that it is mostly the economic burden that is impacting your people.”

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    ksmiami says:

    IF I were Gwen Ifill….

    I would ask normal serious questions to Joe and then turn to Sarah and ask her where she bought her shoes and a whole lot of other stupid questions. Then if Sarah whines that she is being made out to be a fool, Gwen can retort that McCain asked her not to be too rough on poor sarah.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Morning Joe is blaming Pelosi’s speech for the lose of the bill. An Arizona rep Shadduck is saying that that had nothing to do with it, and Boehner is making up a story. Goes on to say that the bill didn’t pass due to the arrogance of Paulson.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    I know that this is pissing in the wind, but I wish Bush would explain exactly why we have a problem with the economy, and what the ramifications of that problem is.

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    Punchy says:

    Weapons powerful enough to make 9/11 look like a bad firecracker display from a state that doesn’t have Indian reservations.

    The disconnect in this sentence construct has earned myself myriad guffaws.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    I know that this is pissing in the wind, but I wish Bush would explain exactly why we have a problem with the economy, and what the ramifications of that problem is.

    There is definitely a need for the national leaders to explain the problem more succinctly to Joe Average voter. Unfortunately, Bush has almost zero credibility at this point. People either tune him out or simply don’t trust him.

    A joint statement from past Presidents Clinton and Bush Sr. would probably be more effective.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Morning Joe is blaming Pelosi’s speech for the lose of the bill.

    I’ve no idea why righties see that as a winning strategy, particularly after Frank completely emasculated them. Frank’s statement was all over the morning news. The House Republicans look like a walking, talking bunch of cheesedicks.

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    w vincentz says:

    I hope one of the questions involves a connection between US hegemony and the finacial collapse.

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    Dennis - SGMM says:

    I hope one of the questions involves a connection between US hegemony and the finacial collapse.

    Governor Palin, what do you take away from President Bush’s failure to get sufficient numbers of his own party to vote for a bill that he’s characterized as crucial to the health of our economy?

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    dslak says:

    I hope one of the questions involves a connection between US hegemony and the finacial collapse.

    Finance has nothing to do with it. The US is a hegemon because of the basic goodness and decency of the American people, and their desire only to use force in the service of the greater good.

    /neocon

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    Punchy says:

    Governor Palin, what do you take away from President Bush’s failure to get sufficient numbers of his own party to vote for a bill that he’s characterized as crucial to the health of our economy?

    /raises hand, excitedly, Horseshack-style

    Palin: Mr. Moderatorer, I think it’s crucial that we crucialize to the American public why it’s crucial that we pass this crucial bill. For job creation, too. And Senator McCane will work exceedingly hard at getting this exceedingly important bill exceeded thru the Senate and House. Which will assist with job creation, natch.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Finance has nothing to do with it. The US is a hegemon because of the basic goodness and decency of the American people, and their desire only to use force in the service of the greater good God.

    Fixt.

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    Comrade Scrutinizer says:

    Fucking preview. I don’t deserve this. I eas building a house.

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    Birdzilla says:

    Liberals oppose anyone that support the consitution as was written their too busy interpating it

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