That Was Fast

I knew the house remark by McCain would make it into a commercial, but sweet jeebus that was fast:

Direct hit.

I did not even hear of McCain’s comment until 7 am this morning, and they already have a commercial up and plan to air it nationally. At any rate, you know what to do. They are spending the money well:

Goal Thermometer






147 replies
  1. 1
    JR says:

    Yes! This is how it’s done.

  2. 2
    cyntax says:

    That kicks ass.

  3. 3
    Jake says:

    CRUSHED!

  4. 4

    This is the biggest screw up of the election. An unforced error like this should be GOLD. McMaverick = Out. Of. Touch.

  5. 5
    myiq2xu says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.

    Meanwhile, they have Rove.

  6. 6
    cyntax says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.

    Meanwhile, they have Rove.

    FAIL. This isn’t a smear, this isn’t twisting his words. These are juxtapositions of two accurate statements that undercut the BS narrative McCain has built and the media perpetuates.

  7. 7
    cleek says:

    i’ll give it a B

    an A would’ve mentioned that he had to have his staff go count them for him.

    how many voters out there need a staff to count their houses for them ?

  8. 8
    Jake says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Translation: MCCAIN IS FUCKED.

  9. 9
    Lavocat says:

    Obama: street-fighter.

    Time to get bloody.

  10. 10
    myiq2xu says:

    This isn’t a smear

    Sure it isn’t.

    Go ahead, get down in the mud with the pigs.

    Let me know how it works out for you.

  11. 11

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.

    Meanwhile, they have Rove.

    You really are a Spaceball, you know that don’t you?

  12. 12
    The Other Steve says:

    I like the voiceover. It’s not that “OH MY GOD WE ARE DOOMED!” style that you get with so many commercials. It’s a soft voice raising doubts.

  13. 13
    Doug H. (Fausto no more) says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.

    Wasn’t it Hillary who said that she was a ‘fighter’?

  14. 14
    NCProsecutor says:

    I like the “hmmm” with the red foreclosure sign on-screen. Nice.

  15. 15
    rachel says:

    Brother Flaming Taser of Warm Reason Says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.

    Meanwhile, they have Rove.

    You really are a Spaceball, you know that don’t you?

    Dark Helmet?

  16. 16
    Dr. Squid says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    We already know how it feels to lose. (Thanks John Kerry.)

    Now you’ll know too.

    Now a quick primer for conservatives…

    True = good
    False = bad

    McGolddigger attacking Obama’s patriotism = false
    Obama attacking McGolddigger’s real estate holdings = true

    Quiz for conservatives: Which is good and which is bad? Hint: saying they’re both bad because they’re both attack ads is not a legitimate answer.

  17. 17
    Shygetz says:

    Ouch. That one’s gonna smart. Was it just me, or was there a not-so-subtle dig at McCain’s apparent lack of, er, mental facilities as well?

  18. 18
    cyntax says:

    Sure it isn’t.

    Go ahead, get down in the mud with the pigs.

    Let me know how it works out for you.

    Explain how it is a smear. A smear obviously twists someone’s words, takes them out of context, or attributes argumentative positions that the person doesn’t hold.

    Given your handle this shouldn’t be hard for you at all, right?

  19. 19
    SpotWeld says:

    I’m surprised it hasn’t rolled out as a photoshop meme.

    John McCain For Pres.
    (photo)
    ” I’ll have my staff get to you.. “

  20. 20
    Dr. Squid says:

    Sure it isn’t.

    Go ahead, get down in the mud with the pigs.

    You failed the quiz.

  21. 21
    Bedlam UK says:

    wow, how did noiq manage to talk shit about that one?

    getting in the mud? The guy doesn’t know how many goddamn houses he has in a time of economic turmoil.
    sitting in his $500 dollar shoes calling Obama Elitist.

    He gifted that one to the dems. Noiq probably thinks Obama should apologise for not having enough houses to warrent being president !
    Prat.

  22. 22
    zzyzx says:

    I’m not thrilled by it, but I know why it has to be done.

  23. 23
    rawshark says:

    OT but I gotta know. Apparently Scarlett Johanson is making an appearance at an Obama rally here in Phoenix today. It’s happening at a private residence. Is this at your house TZ?

  24. 24
    Grand Moff Texan says:

    Elite (rich), and out-of-touch (senile). Brilliant! The cool thing about Obama going negative is, he doesn’t have to lie.

    Whereas, when I go negative, it isn’t as pretty.
    .

  25. 25
    greynoldsct00 says:

    See, that’s what I suggested the other day, that they are going to go in for the kill after convention.

  26. 26
    Grand Moff Texan says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Why? Because it told the truth?

    Shut up, loser.
    .

  27. 27
    AkaDad says:

    You know this hurts McCain when Limbaugh is already defending it.

  28. 28
    Doug H. (Fausto no more) says:

    McCain : number of houses :: Poppy Bush : electronic scanners

  29. 29
    GambitRF says:

    Yes, it’s throwing away the moral highground, yes its fairly asinine, but 2004 proved pretty definitively that asinine personal attacks get you elected.

  30. 30
    Napoleon says:

    Meanwhile, they have Rove.

    Good – I personally think he is an incompetent. He damn near blew it for Bush in how he spent campaign money and where he sent Bush to campaign late in the 2000 election (and you could say he did blow it but Scalia saved him from himself) and with his candidate bravely leading a war against (so they said) the perpetators of the biggest attack on US soil ever, he just barely eaked out a victory.

  31. 31
    myiq2xu says:

    Rove McCain responds:

    “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people “cling” to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?

    “The reality is that Barack Obama’s plans to raise taxes and opposition to producing more energy here at home as gas prices skyrocket show he’s completely out of touch with the concerns of average Americans.”

    Boot, meet junk

  32. 32
    manne hussein malon says:

    That’s the Republicans little go-to card anytime Obama says anything remotely confrontational. “I THOUGHT HE WAS A NEW KIND OF POLITICS?”

    Sorry dudes, he’s (1)not lying/smearing and (2)a politician.

    Sorry that you assumed this guy was a naive lightweight, but you aren’t going to get a free pass on repeated gaffes every single day by McIdiot.

  33. 33
    dbrown says:

    Finally!!!!!!

  34. 34
    Laura W says:

    SNAP!
    Short and very, very SWEET!
    Although Cleek’s point is right on as well.

    I just turned CNN on and Obama was talking about this very issue either live or a bit earlier.
    Whoever posted the link to Al Giordano;s post on the underdog/front runner issue this morn, thanks. I’d never seen his blog and I read every comment in that thread.
    How come so many flame wars over here when there is so much educated discussion going on in between? It’s hard to filter through. I could go to HuffPo for that kind of school yard stuff.

  35. 35
    JL says:

    John McCain has experienced several senior moments dealing with foreign policy issues. Unfortunately, the press has largely ignored his gaffes and it takes a statement like this for people to wake up. All I can say is HALLELUJAH!

  36. 36
    The Moar You Know says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.

    Meanwhile, they have Rove.

    MyIQ goes for the high score! He shoots! He…faceplants? Oh God, turn off the camera, no child should have to see that.

    Ladies and gentlemen, you have all witnessed a very somber event today. We hope that, in spite of his total failure, that MyIQ can rejoin normal society someday. It’s true that he will be mocked and spat upon for committing such epic fail, but we hope his spirit, and he, can carry on.

  37. 37
    John Cole says:

    The problem, NOIQ, is Obama weathered all those charges before. Go check out inoculation theory.

    This attack on McCain is new, because most Americans don’t realize he is filthy stinking rich.

  38. 38
    Davebo says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    But superiq, this is the kind of information that hard working white people need to reach a decision.

    By the way, we all know it’s you who is holding on to the infamous whitey tape.

    Fess up flowbee.

  39. 39
    JR says:

    In his rebuttal, McCain forgot to mention that he was a POW.

  40. 40
    Stooleo says:

    Check out this Architectural Digest spread of McCain’s house in Phoenix. For a guy who trys to portray himself as such a badass, he sure lives in a wussified house. Where’s the trophy room? Where’s the bear skin rug?

  41. 41
    Doug H. (Fausto no more) says:

    The problem, NOIQ, is Obama weathered all those charges before. Go check out inoculation theory.

    NOIQ was the same guy who was supporting Fightin’ Hillary and calling Obama the next Dukakis just a couple months ago. Dude isn’t serious, he’s just full of Obama haterade.

  42. 42
    rachel says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Rove McCain responds:

    Ow! Obama hit me square on a NERVE! Must… Not… Lose… Temper…

    Raaaaaggghhh!

    (A big, green old wrinkly guy is last seen bounding over the horizon… in a $500 pair of loafers.)

  43. 43
    cyntax says:

    @ myiq2xu

    Well, you’re right: McCain mentioned argula! Oh noes! Argula is to Obama as water is to the Wicked Witch of the West.

    Just about everything McCain mentioned is a distortion and a smear (just to help your big brain out a bit here) and as such can be responded to and deflated (ideally by surrogates). We’ll see where this all goes but it seems to me that in a political campaign there are times and ways in which hitting your opponent hard makes sense. And this seems to me to be one of those times.

  44. 44
    jake says:

    Le yipe! Le that’s going to leave un mark!

    All done without attempts to equate McCain with tramps, suggest that he’ll screw the hot babes or some sort of cult figure.

    wow, how did noiq manage to talk shit about that one?

    Simple. Obama is not Clinton.

    And he likes the e-spankings ya’ll dish out. Wash your hands when you’re done.

  45. 45
    JL says:

    IMO McCain’s statement sounds as though he’s a little testy.

  46. 46
    thomas says:

    the McSame campaign will try to counter by saying those are Cindy’s houses. That will go over big with all the macho men repugnants.
    This will leave a mark.

  47. 47
    chopper says:

    McCain responds:

    “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people “cling” to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?

    damn, you can smell the desperation in that response. they’re all over the place, they’re seriously on the defensive here. vacation in hawaii? what, visiting your home state is elitist now?

    seriously, you can tell that mccain’s camp knows its a pretty big opening and they’re going to take a beating over this.

    Boot, meet junk

    makes sense that myiq would see obama’s ad as worthless while mccain’s mealy response is a strong, ass-kicking statement.

  48. 48
    wingnuts to iraq says:

    myiq2xu really is a Republican.

    Kick some ass Barack.

    Gramps McCain is out of touch!

  49. 49
    cleek says:

    in what order would McCain’s houses be called, in event of a 3AM crisis ?

  50. 50
    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    Speaking of senior moments is there subliminal advertising going on over at Politico. Whenever Ben Smith posts a blog about McCain (in this case about him forgetting the amount of houses) up pops this advert

    http://img.photobucket.com/alb.....nshot2.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/alb.....enshot.jpg

    PS) if I hit submit and discover I have screwed up those links please don’t yell at me. I am a dinosaur remember.

  51. 51
    D. Mason says:

    That’s the kind of simple attack ad that is needed. It’s not just about what’s in the ad but also what’s not in the ad. And no I don’t mean “the truth”, whatever that is, since both sides view their candidates ads as truthful. The thing that’s not here but is present in McCains ads is the over the top(to the point of silly) Paris Hilton/messiah type rhetoric. The sharp contrast between this and the just shy of comical McCain ads is a powerful element that shouldn’t be overlooked.

  52. 52
    cyntax says:

    makes sense that myiq would see obama’s ad as worthless while mccain’s mealy response is a strong, ass-kicking statement.

    The near pathological need for schadenfraude is truly breathtaking.

  53. 53
    The Moar You Know says:

    Stooleo Says:

    Check out this Architectural Digest spread of McCain’s house in Phoenix. For a guy who trys to portray himself as such a badass, he sure lives in a wussified house. Where’s the trophy room? Where’s the bear skin rug?

    Yeah, but his daughter is hot.

  54. 54
    cleek says:

    IMO McCain’s statement sounds as though he’s a little testy.

    a little dickish, too.

  55. 55
    Jay B. says:

    Yes, it’s throwing away the moral highground,

    Why on Earth would anyone think this? Jesus Christ, people are worried about and struggling with their mortgages (maybe you’ve read the papers recently) — and the Republican candidate, in a perfect caricature of what many of us think about Republicans, can’t remember how many houses he owns.

    It couldn’t be more perfect, apt, or on point if McCain wrapped it in a bow and told Obama: “Here, son, show you have some sense about how people are doing these days”.

    yes its fairly asinine, but 2004 proved pretty definitively that asinine personal attacks get you elected.

    Again, how is this an “assinine personal attack” in any way?

    And McCain’s response is weak. It’s not that Americans hate the amount of money people make, but they don’t like the pure arrogance of hoarding.

    Oy. John, this is why Democrats have a hard enough time winning. No one can ever agree on how to “message”, people unilaterally surrender, they complain if a campaign doesn’t hit hard enough — only to meet another swatch of Democrats who complain that the campaign is hitting back too hard, and then there are those who bitch because their candidate (who would have been magically different!) lost.

    Will Rogers was right 80 or so years ago and it still goes. The Democrats just aren’t an organized party.

  56. 56
    georgia pig says:

    I suspect Obama may have played this about right. The problem he’s always faced in going negative against McCain is the POW/war hero teflon. He needed for McCain to go clearly negative first and he needed to be able to clearly limit his attacks McCain to domestic issues. This was the first real opening, i.e., McCain can’t deflect this like the Phil Gramm “whiner” stuff. Biden as VP may make sense here, too, because one thing Biden is good at is snark. He can be a pretty effective attack dog on foreign affairs and national security, so Obama doesn’t have to do it. Biden can highlight McCain’s relative ignorance and tendency towards hip-shooting on foreign affairs. The plan is to paint McCain as insulated and out of touch, irrespective of his past heroism.

  57. 57

    The opportunities to play on this just write themselves, don’t they?

    “Okay, I want everyone in the room to raise their hands.”

    “Right – everyone who doesn’t own their own homes, put your hands down.”

    “Everyone who owns just one home, put your hands down.”

    “Okay – the rest of you – can you remember how many homes you own? If you CAN remember, put your hands down.”

    “Those people with their hands still up – you’re John McCain’s base. Get out. Everyone else – let’s start talking about rent, mortgage payments and what the Republicans have done to the economy…”

  58. 58
    Zifnab says:

    Yes, it’s throwing away the moral highground, yes its fairly asinine, but 2004 proved pretty definitively that asinine personal attacks get you elected.

    Really? How did he throw away the moral high ground? By pointing out that Cap’n McFlyboy has seven houses in the middle of a housing crisis? Oh noes! That’s not change you can believe in!

    I don’t see Obama lying. I don’t even see him distorting the facts as they stand. He’s not playing nice – delving into an opponent’s personal life is considered a bit of a low blow – but I think we’ve passed the “low blow” phase of the political campaign some time back when Clinton was battling for Texas and Ohio.

    Boot, meet junk

    Yeah, this would be really painful if McCain hadn’t had his media goons harping on all of these little smears endlessly for the past six months.

    McCain is once again squarely on the defensive. The old codger is a gaff machine and he’s paying for it every time he opens his mouth.

  59. 59
    4tehlulz says:

    >Boot, meet junk

    Fail more. According to McCain, Obama’s still middle class.

  60. 60
    CT says:

    C’mon, by McCain’s own standard Obama’s not rich-upper middle class, maybe.

  61. 61
    cain says:

    Finally, the MUP is spittin the red spectrum of the rainbow! BTW I hate McCain’s house in that Architectural digest.. shit.. it looks like a page from a furniture sale page or something. Way too busy… where’s the expansive space?

    cain

  62. 62
    jake says:

    Does a non-POW really want to debate with a POW?!?

    and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses

    [Facepalm] Oh no, don’t mention the convicts!

    Maybe he’s trying to make Camp O blow all of its money on ads.

  63. 63
    liberal says:

    I haven’t really watched the commercial—no sound on computer right now—but the nice thing about this kind of attack is that if McCain accuses them of lying about the number of houses, he has to fess up the “true” number and draws more attention to it.

    More like this please…

  64. 64
    Jess says:

    This will leave a mark.

    We keep saying that. And it keeps on not happening. I wish Obama had hit him earlier on much harder, before people had their fantasy version of McCain firmly fixed in their minds. It’s true that voters view McCain as the negative campaigner by six to one, but is that really helping Obama? Very few admit to responding to negative ads, and yet it seems that most of us do.

    I hope I don’t sound like a concern troll, but I’m a bit depressed about this.

  65. 65
    cleek says:

    where’s the expansive space?

    it’s in the back. they used to keep McCain’s soul there. till it died.

  66. 66
    JL says:

    lol

    Litlebritdifrnt Says:

    Speaking of senior moments is there subliminal advertising going on over at Politico. Whenever Ben Smith posts a blog about McCain (in this case about him forgetting the amount of houses) up pops this advert

    Good Catch.

  67. 67
    chopper says:

    [Facepalm] Oh no, don’t mention the convicts!

    sir, charles keating is on line 2 for you.

  68. 68
    jibeaux says:

    a little dickish, too.

    And not very creative, either. Raising taxes? The Republicans are as constitutionally incapable of not inserting this old chestnut into every discussion as they are of not inserting 9/11 into every discussion. When was Arugulagate again, February? Tired, tired, tired.

  69. 69
    TenguPhule says:

    Dark Helmet?

    I was thinking Major Asshole, myself.

  70. 70
    liberal says:

    zzyzx,

    I’m not thrilled by it, but I know why it has to be done.

    Uh…let me guess. Someone kicks you repeatedly in the balls, you kick back?

  71. 71
    jibeaux says:

    An A+ would’ve mentioned that the staff only got within three of the correct number of houses…

  72. 72
    Dave says:

    Hey myiq2xu,

    Since Obama only makes $4 million, doesn’t that make him middle-class by McCain standards?

  73. 73
    NR says:

    Hey look, it’s McCain supporter myiq2xu!

    Shouldn’t you be off somewhere writing about how the war McCain will start with Russia will be a good thing for the United States?

  74. 74
    liberal says:

    Jay B wrote,

    Again, how is this an “assinine personal attack” in any way?

    When measured against an ideal, of candidates campaigning mostly on their ideology—what they’d actually do when in office.

    But of course we have to deal with realities here, not ideals.

  75. 75
    chopper says:

    When was Arugulagate again

    does any average voter actually remember that anyways? arugula? WTF is this old coot talking about?

  76. 76
    bootlegger says:

    So far I prefer The Whippersnapper’s counterpunching to 1) Kerrey’s refusal to punch at all, and 2) Rovian fairy tale tactics.

  77. 77
    mark says:

    John’s rope-a-dope theory looks better every day. Obama has to give McCain some room to come up with these gems. Right or wrong, Obama will never be the deer in the headlights. If you’re not hearing from him, he’s up to something.

  78. 78
    liberal says:

    jibeaux wrote,

    The Republicans are as constitutionally incapable of not inserting this old chestnut into every discussion as they are of not inserting 9/11 into every discussion.

    Yeah. It reminds me of some Onion bullet-point summary of Bush’s reason for deposing Saddam. One was “Saddam threatened to raise US taxes.”

  79. 79
    Tax Analyst says:

    Grand Moff Texan Says:

    Elite (rich), and out-of-touch (senile). Brilliant! The cool thing about Obama going negative is, he doesn’t have to lie.

    Whereas, when I go negative, it isn’t as pretty.

    Hey, next time don’t hold back, OK?

    I haven’t had the opportunity to look at Obama’s ad yet (I’m at work and video streaming is verboten during our business hours), but from the reactions here I think I’m gonna like it.

  80. 80
    cyntax says:

    Jess Says: I wish Obama had hit him earlier on much harder, before people had their fantasy version of McCain firmly fixed in their minds.

    Well, I think the voters had their vision of McCain fixed in their heads for at least the last eight years. So there’s nothing Obama could’ve done to prevent that; given that, it then really becomes a question of how Obama can attack that pre-existing image.

    And letting McCain paint himself as the negative campaigner first might be part of Obama’s strategy. Or they might subscribe to the whole “don’t launch a new product before Labor Day” strategy. Or maybe they’re just starting to be effective (I doubt it’s this but who knows).

    Whatever the case, there are going to be some ups and downs between here and the election, but the truth is that McCain is anything but a mortal lock at this stage.

  81. 81
    wasabi gasp says:

    The punch should have contained something about McCain being so out of touch that he can’t even remember the number, not the number itself.

  82. 82
    JoyceH says:

    These folks buy houses the way other people buy shoes.

    Cindy McCain, through another family corporation, spent about $4.7 million in 2004 and 2008 on two condos in an exclusive building in Coronado, Calif., an affluent San Diego suburb noted for its high percentage of military retirees.

    In her recent Vogue interview, conducted from the newer Coronado condo, McCain explained that her husband, a Navy veteran, initially wasn’t keen on the idea of a pied-à-terre in Coronado.

    “When I bought the first one, my husband, who is not a beach person, said, ‘Oh, this is such a waste of money; the kids will never go,’” she told Vogue. “Then it got to the point where they used it so much I couldn’t get in the place. So I bought another one.”

    link

    Ask yourself how many Average American Families could tell a ‘cute’ story about wifie buying a condo and hubby is all reluctant, but turns out they love it so much, they bought another one? Isn’t that just too ADORABLE for words?

  83. 83
    Doug H. (Fausto no more) says:

    We keep saying that. And it keeps on not happening.

    In the middle of a housing crisis, where market values are dropping and mortgage brokers are on Congressional life support, the Republican candidate for President literally forgot how many houses he owns.

    If this isn’t a moment like Dukakis in a tank or Poppy Bush not knowing what an electronic scanner, its really gosh darn close to it.

  84. 84
    NR says:

    TPM is saying that the Obama camp is deploying surrogates to sixteen states to hit McCain on the “houses” gaffe.

    The gift here is twofold. It gets the message out to voters that McCain is completely out of touch with their economic concerns. And it also gets the message out that the guy forgot how many houses he owns – a definite senior moment.

    Good to see them pushing on this.

  85. 85
    zzyzx says:

    “but from the reactions here I think I’m gonna like it.”

    You know, the more I think about it, the more I think that that reaction is the most important response. The convention starts Monday and instead of people being worried about another collapse, they’re going to be pumped up for the election. This raises the enthusiasm of the base and will come across well on the news, much better if it were a dejected Obama group fighting off the Clinton deadenders.

  86. 86
    D. Mason says:

    The punch should have contained something about McCain being so out of touch that he can’t even remember the number, not the number itself.

    HAHA I like it. McCain: So senile he forgot about the number 7.

  87. 87
    JGabriel says:

    Litlebritdifrnt:

    Speaking of senior moments is there subliminal advertising going on over at Politico?

    If not, it raises another interesting question: What is it about Politico’s reader demographics that makes Pfizer think it’s the perfect place to advertise Alzheimer’s drugs?

    And what makes them think anyone in their target audience will remember the ads?

    .

  88. 88
    jibeaux says:

    It’s a good line of attack because it hits you in the gut, where most of your nerve endings are, according to Stephen Colbert’s gut. On the one hand, there are far better reasons to oppose McCain than his being rich and clueless. On the other hand, lots of people don’t particularly care about those reasons. He can’t lose, McCain cannot come out of that looking good. He can try to turn it back around (a million dollar house, oh no! I thought presidential candidates lived in Shady Acres Mobile Home Park!), but it’s just not one he can win.

  89. 89
    bago says:

    ObamaCamp: You’re absurdly wealthy!
    McCainCamp: Oh yeah, well you’re not even rich and worry about the price of things, like food and housing!

    I mean, this should be succinctly summed up in some video somewhere, don’t you think?

  90. 90
    Ted says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.

    Yawn. Wake me when Obama’s camp starts whisper campaigns about illegitimate children or starts rampantly push-polling with same.

    Otherwise, go vote for McCain, or Nader, or whoever the fuck you’re going to vote for (because for you it was Hillary or bust, you creepy freak), and STFU.

  91. 91
    Jay B. says:

    Doug H. calls it.

    And liberal, this captures perfectly what Republican politicians really think. Obama has talked himself blue about his vision for America (and he’s even thrown in actual policy too), it’s also important to point out where your opponent errs. Even in “new politics”.

    Shit, even Tim Kaine stepped up on this one. The Democrats will be hitting this hard all the way into the convention.

    It’s going to be a punchline on Leno, Letterman and everywhere else tonight.

    It beggars belief that ANYONE, nevermind a politician, would whiff on how many houses they’d own.

  92. 92
    gex says:

    This thread is some of the best evidence for how corrupt politics has become for the right. An ad with *facts* about what a candidate has said is considered mud slinging. This was not “Senator, when did you stop beating your wife?” This was an accurate representation of McCain’s answer to a question. Some of us can tell the difference. The rest of us are 28%-ers.

  93. 93
    Jake says:

    The gift here is twofold. It gets the message out to voters that McCain is completely out of touch with their economic concerns. And it also gets the message out that the guy forgot how many houses he owns – a definite senior moment.

    It’s a threefold gift, if you ask me. The third gift is Obama showing us all that the gloves are off.

    Giddyup on that.

  94. 94
    Earbucket says:

    McCain responded by attacking Obama for making $4 million last year. I thought you had to make at least $5 million to be rich.

  95. 95

    Let’s not forget Cindy’s wonderful recipes for “Passion Fruit Mousse” and “Ahi Tuna with Napa Cabbage Slaw”: Not elitist.

    Eating arugula: Elitist.

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    Dave says:

    HAHA I like it. McCain: So senile he forgot about the number 7.

    Well, you see, the problem is the Kaiser stole his word “seven”… he has “dickety” houses.

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    colleeniem says:

    I absolutely love McCain’s comeback. There’s some awesomely bad flaws in there. The state has no private beaches–it’s against the law. Yes, there are some that are hard to get to because the property owner doesn’t make it accessible, but that’s a hard thing to explain.
    And by the way, judging from the absolutely hilarious picture Wonkette has available, there were some people on that private beach with access to cameras.

  98. 98
    TR says:

    I wasn’t going to donate, but MyIQis2’s comments convinced me it’s worth it.

    Just sent Obama $100. Suck it, asshole.

  99. 99
    GSD says:

    I’ll see your arugula and raise you a pied a terre.

    -GSD

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    KRK says:

    Off-topic, but an Iraq vet running for Congress in Minnesota took a nice hit at Lieberman:

    There’s a word in Washington for a taxpayer-funded endeavor that grows without limits, busts every budget projection, and which Members of Congress are loathe to confront.
    The word is Iraq.

    Today, the Republican Party announced that the loudest defender of status quo policies on Iraq, Senator Joe Lieberman, will be a prominent speaker at the Republican National Convention in my home state of Minnesota. Senator Lieberman and I do have one thing in common. We’ve both changed political parties. I left the Republican Party in 2002 after it replaced “balance our budget” with “borrow and spend” and after we started a war without a plan for success; a war we did not need.

    With all respect to Senator Lieberman, talking tough about Iraq is not brave. Bravery is not demonstrated through words but instead through action.

    I hope somebody in the MSM figures out to interview Madia during the RNC in Saint Paul.

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    jake says:

    it’s in the back. they used to keep McCain’s soul staff there. till it died he bought them a separate house.

    Fixxled.

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    cyntax says:

    And now Obama’s using most of the points mentioned in this thread (“the staff had to get the number,” “$5m is rich,” “at least 4”) on the stump.

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    nightjar says:

    Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

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    jaime says:

    This is excellent news! For JOHN MCCAIN!

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    jibeaux says:

    McCain’s comments came four days after he initially told Pastor Rick Warren during a faith forum on Sunday his threshold for considering someone rich is $5 million — a careless comment he quickly corrected.

    In the interview, McCain did not offer an alternate number, but had a new answer ready.

    “I define rich in other ways besides income,” he said. “Some people are wealthy and rich in their lives and their children and their ability to educate them. Others are poor if they’re billionaires.”

    If there are any typos here, it’s because I’m typing blind with my eyes rolled into the back of my head.

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    A.Political says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    This isn’t a smear

    Sure it isn’t.

    Go ahead, get down in the mud with the pigs.

    Let me know how it works out for you.
    August 21st, 2008 at 10:54 am

    =======

    pathetic…..myiq you had better material during the primaries…now you just look like you’re going through the motions.

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    The Other Steve says:

    The problem with the arugula attack is that you’ve gotta know what arugula is in order to understand it, and if you know what it is then you realize it isn’t that big of a deal.

    Maybe if he’d said caviar, it would have been a good joke.

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    John S. says:

    Lordy, myiq1/2xu is in rare form these days…

    How much rat can a ratfucker fuck if a ratfucker can’t fuck rats?

  109. 109
    Phil says:

    Goddamn that tastes good. How’s he going to answer that? “Obama’s lying about me, it’s only five?”

    McCain is damn lucky he wasn’t on videotape.

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    I wish Obama had hit him earlier on much harder, before people had their fantasy version of McCain firmly fixed in their minds.

    Makes me wish I’d donated to Obama’s campaign back when I had a job eight years ago.

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    nightjar says:

    Let’s not forget Cindy’s wonderful recipes for “Passion Fruit Mousse”

    Hey, those things are great, but you have to remove the antlers first.

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    KRK says:

    Obama ad on McCain and Reed (and “convicted felon” Abramoff): More of the Same.

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    JGabriel says:

    John Cole:

    I knew the house remark by McCain would make it into a commercial, but sweet jeebus that was fast…

    Even better, this should represent the breakthrough of what I’ll call the “Fat Cat McCain” meme over the “Celebrity” meme. The “Celebrity” attack never could carry much weight because there was no video to really support it, nothing like an on air tantrum or pushing cameras out of the way.

    But now McCain’s given Obama the gift of incriminating video: nothing says “Fat Cat” like not being able to remember how many houses you have.

    Just add a bushy mustache, a waistcoat, a monocle, and you’ve got the perfect caricature. Much like the “Monopoly” character, McCain already has the body form of a walking gonad. This ad should seal the image in everyone’s mind.

    .

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    Dave says:

    The problem with the arugula attack is that you’ve gotta know what arugula is in order to understand it, and if you know what it is then you realize it isn’t that big of a deal.

    Especially when you also realize he was talking to organic farmers in Iowa that grow arugala when he made that comment.

    What a crazy guy, talking about issues that would concern his audience.

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    4tehlulz says:

    Shorter McCain: GET OFF MY LAWNS YOU DAMN KIDS

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    The problem with the arugula attack is that you’ve gotta know what arugula is in order to understand it, and if you know what it is then you realize it isn’t that big of a deal.

    It sounds French. Obama should have called it Freedom Lettuce.

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    Conservatively Liberal says:

    Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

    No shit, and this sting was a doozy!

    When it comes to myiq2xu’s GoatBoy’s ‘nuggets’ of wisdom he likes to drop here, it’s more like floats like a turd, stinks like a goat.

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    JDRhoades says:

    “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people “cling” to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?

    No, Honorable John, but you keep bringing it up, so we though we’d just take that boot and jam it up YOUR ass for a change.

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    The Other Steve says:

    I do think it’s funny watching myiqis2 complaining about Obama having an attack ad.

    Isn’t that why you supported Hillary? Because she could fight?

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    cleek says:

    Lordy, myiq1/2xu is in rare form these days…

    i dunno… all those pie quotes start to get old, quick. i wish there was an easy way to give him new material.

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    JDRhoades says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.

    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground

    Translation: WAAAAAAAAAAAH! OBAMA HIT BACK! HE’S NOT SUPPOSED TO HIT BAAAAAACK! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

  122. 122
    bago says:

    4tehlulz, aww yeah. Cross-propagating memes.

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    wasabi gasp says:

    Surely, you won’t find any arugula (or any other faggy leafs) in John McCain’s 500 cubic feet of refrigerator space.

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    The Other Steve says:

    Especially when you also realize he was talking to organic farmers in Iowa that grow arugala when he made that comment.

    Shocking!

    Iowa grows a lot of crops most of these yahoos have never heard of.

  125. 125
    JDRhoades says:

    Iowa grows a lot of crops most of these yahoos have never heard of.

    Republicans view farmers, working people, and other “ordinary Americans” the same way they view “the troops”: they love th them in the abstract without having or wanting any idea of how they really live, and while having nothing whatsoever to do with them in real life.

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    Tsulagi says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Yeah, so much for that “new” kind of politics.
    Use Rove’s playbook, throw away the moral high ground.
    Meanwhile, they have Rove.

    FAIL.

    Yep.

    i’ll give it a B

    an A would’ve mentioned that he had to have his staff go count them for him.

    Yeah, that would have been a nice touch, especially during their “Obama-elitist” campaign. Not too many voters can relate to having their people let them know how many houses they currently own.

    Good ending on the ad too. #1 theme Obama’s campaign needs to run is McCain=Bush. Put McCain on the defensive. When they whine that’s not fair, double the ad buy.

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    cleek says:

    Surely, you won’t find any arugula (or any other faggy leafs) in John McCain’s 500 cubic feet of refrigerator space.

    McCain lives on unicorn blood and mandrake

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    BFR says:

    Holy Wheels Coming Off Batman:

    Link

    “We’re delighted to have a real estate debate with Barack Obama,” said spokesman Brian Rogers, adding that the press should focus on Obama’s house. “It’s a frickin’ mansion. He doesn’t tell people that. You have a mansion you bought in a shady deal with a convicted felon.”

    He also added: “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison,” referring to the prisoner of war camp that McCain was in during the Vietnam War.

    They literally cannot open their mouths at this point without using the term POW – it’s getting up in Rudy G territory now.

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    Stooleo says:

    How much rat can a ratfucker fuck if a ratfucker can’t fuck rats?

    OMG I just blew the peach I was eating onto my keyboard. Too funny.

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    JGabriel says:

    John McCain:

    Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year…

    Which brings us back again to the Celebrity meme. I mean, was that ever really a smart place to go, coming from the party of Ronald Reagan? Coming from a man who has guest-hosted Saturday Night Live?

    Does a man with a net worth of at least 100 million, and up to 200 million by some estimates, really want to attack someone for making 4 million?

    What in the world is John McCain thinking? Is he even thinking at all?

    .

  131. 131
    JGabriel says:

    Shorter McCain:

    Houses are like children. The number of houses we have is really not important; what’s important is that we love them all equally.

    .

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    4tehlulz says:

    Noun verb POW

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    NR says:

    Jonathon Martin at Politico:

    Barack Obama’s campaign, moving rapidly to exploit what they see as a major opportunity, is deploying high-profile surrogates in 16 states across the country today to highlight John McCain’s uncertainty yesterday about how many houses he owns, the Democrat’s campaign tells Politico.

    Governors, members of Congress and state legislators will hold conference calls and press conferences in front of homes to draw attention to the issue. Party leaders such as Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, on the stump in Ohio and Iowa respectively, wil move to incorporate the matter into their remarks on the campaign trail today in an effort to draw local media attention to the story.

    Further, some state parties will hold contests in which Democrats seek out real voters who don’t know how many houses they own.

    And in other states, ordinary citizens who have been victim of the mortgage crunch will hold press availabilities to contrast their plight with McCain’s wealth.

    The aggressive move on Obama’s part is in keeping with a shift in campaign tactics since his vacation. Obama and his campaign aides have both ramped up their rhetoric in recent days. This latest effort reflects a willingness to hit McCain much harder and to veer from conventional issue-based attacks to the sort of character assaults that have marked the GOP’s campaign against Obama as well as their effort against John Kerry in 2004.

    Finally, the Obama team is back on offense. And just in time for the convention, too.

  134. 134
    Jeffro says:

    From BFR:
    >

    You know, I may be okay with this Biden thing if he can pull another “noun, verb, and 9/11” moment with McSame’s harping on being a POW.

    Biden: “Okay, John, we get it already: you were a POW. You served your country honorably then. But it doesn’t win you any arguments on where the country goes after 8 years of Bush…because you’re promising 4 more.”

    (Shorter soundbite-friendly version of that, plz anyone?)

  135. 135
    donovong says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen!!

    Hear it now, straight from the lips of Grandpa McBush:

    http://share.ovi.com/download/thepolitico.10064

  136. 136
    jake says:

    “I define rich in other ways besides income,” he said. “Some people are wealthy and rich in their lives and their children and their ability to educate them. Others are poor if they’re billionaires.”

    Does anyone remember that show “Good Times”? I was a kid when that crap ran and I instinctively hated it for pushing the idea of “Poor happy black folks.”

    And now comes Senator John McPOW (R-Hanoi Hilton) telling us to pity the poor billionaires. We need to give them a permanent tax cut.

    Meanwhile in McCainville, if you have the ability to educate your children (whatever the flaming hell that means) you’re really rich and shouldn’t complain when we grind you a bit harder. That would be selfish!

    You know what? If he really thinks that, I’d like to see him swap places with the “rich” guy who lives from minimum credit card payment to minimum credit card payment.

    Smug fucking putz.

  137. 137
    Tim (The Other One) says:

    I think Cindi’s Cute Coronado Condo anecdote is gonna go over big in say Flint, MI. or Pittsburgh, PA.

    Anyone…Anyone ???

  138. 138
    Ripley says:

    To be clear: “Yes, John McCain has several houses. But Obama has a house, too! And um… Lettuce!”

    That’s your comeback, Thurston? McCain should fire his entire staff and go back to watching MATLOCK!…

  139. 139
    wasabi gasp says:

    Surely, you won’t find any arugula (or any other faggy leafs) in John McCain’s 500 cubic feet of refrigerator space.

    But, if you did, John will let you know that, like other regular Americans, the price is of no concern.

    Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula…in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?

    Dirt Cross! War Hero! POW! PO Fuckin’ W, Bitches!

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    ThymeZone says:

    That house commercial is damned good. I am sending money to the Obama campaign and I hope they run that thing, tv and radio, 24 x 7 for the next 3 months.

  141. 141
    ThymeZone says:

    That house commercial is damned good. I am sending money to the Obama campaign and I hope they run that thing, tv and radio, 24 x 7 for the next 3 months.

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    Zuzu's Petals says:

    cleek Says:

    i’ll give it a B

    an A would’ve mentioned that he had to have his staff go count them for him.

    how many voters out there need a staff to count their houses for them ?

    Well, he did manage to get that in when he talked about it:

    Obama Jumps on McCain House Comment

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    Fledermaus says:

    Republicans view farmers, working people, and other “ordinary Americans” the same way they view “the troops”: they love th them in the abstract without having or wanting any idea of how they really live, and while having nothing whatsoever to do with them in real life.

    It is funny how they pulled that off. And the way the “liberal” media runs to them to get the skinny on what the real americans think. And surprise surprise real americans hate class warfare and think the democrats are going too far!

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    OW!! That is choice! Eat it, bitchez.

  146. 146

    The leading Republicans have been dirtbags for ages now. They deserve each and every pile of shit you can dump on ’em. No lookin’ back now.

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    Tax Analyst says:

    Oh, yeah…just had a chance to look at that commercial…I put $50 in the “ActBlue” thingee this morning…I think that might be worth another $100 after my AMEX monthly billing cycle cuts off for August.

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