All Preordained

A prisoner in chains:

Impeachment is on the table.

But Congress is not allowed to bite.

The House Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on one of Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich’s 35 articles of impeachment against President Bush. But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders in the chamber have signaled that they do not want the committee — let alone the full House — to take a vote on impeachment.

How’s that?

The Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on the president’s abuses of power — perhaps as soon as next week. Expert witnesses will be called. Kucinich says that a foreign official — who he has not named — is willing to testify regarding presidential wrongdoing. And Judiciary Committee chair John Conyers, the veteran Michigan Democrat who actually believes in presidential accountability but has had a hard time getting other top Democrats to embrace that belief, suggests that the hearing will review evidence of “all the (Bush administration actions) that constitute an imperial presidency.”

But, when all is said and done, the committee is only supposed to “accumulate” the evidence of imperial over-reach, not to act upon it.

If you needed any more evidence that the United States has now reached the point that we are completely unable to govern ourselves, and are, in essence, lurching forward like a drunk with a dysfunctional sense of balance and order, this should be the final clue. This is either an election year stunt and the Bush administration is owed a number of apologies, or the Democratic leadership themselves are complicit, or both. There is no other reasoning for this nonsense. Governments and political parties that engage in this sort of charade do not take themselves seriously, and they most certainly do not take the public seriously.

And why should they? Where is the outrage? Where is Pat Buchanan’s pitchfork brigade? Where is the outcry on the blogs? How can the leadership of an elected party say, with a straight face, that they intend to hold hearings into alleged malfeasance and criminal behavior, but don’t worry, they won’t do anything about it? It is a joke. It is worse than a joke. It is fraud.

Either put an end to this farce, or have faith in the process and act upon the information you find in a manner fitting with the Constitution and the law of the land. Or resign your office and go find employment doing something you are more ably suited to do well. I hear Burger King is hiring cashiers.

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80 replies
  1. 1
    Mac from Oregon says:

    A true travesty.

  2. 2
    Joe says:

    Wow, not one person has commented yet on your vicious slur against Burger King employees? Please, let’s be realistic here – a Burger King employee has never dragged us into an unnecessary war, nor has a BK worker ever granted immunity to law-breaking telecoms. I’d take a BK employee anyday over Bush or Pelosi.

  3. 3
    Jake says:

    What? You thought the Democratic leadership in Congress had a spine? Have you been paying attention the past couple of years????

  4. 4
    Natascha says:

    History will judge us all complicit if Clinton’s BJ warranted articles of impeachment while the atrocity in Iraq did not. Unfuckingbelievable.

  5. 5
    cleek says:

    You thought the Democratic leadership in Congress had a spine?

    oh they have a spine; they’re standing up bravely and defiantly – to their base.

  6. 6
    calipygian says:

    Who is the foreign official that Kucinich has lined up? If its Tony Blair, that could force things wide open.

    If its some sub-official in the Polish Foreign Ministry….eh.

  7. 7
    trailertrash Josh says:

    This is {…} an election year stunt and the Bush administration is owed a number of apologies

    Welcome back, John…

    Nice to see that “Schiavo” only rendered you “brain-dead” for 3 years.

  8. 8
    Jake says:

    History will judge us all complicit if Clinton’s BJ warranted articles of impeachment while the atrocity in Iraq did not.

    The irony of course is that the public did not want Clinton impeached, but the GOP didn’t give a shit. They wanted payback for Nixon, or some such nonsense.

    Contrast this with the Democrats, who basically eat their own anyway, and who assume that if they try to impeach Bush, it will backfire publicly and cost them the election or a couple of seats at least. It might, it might not. But they’re simply too chickenshit to try.

    Can we make “Chickenshit Democrats” a new tag?

  9. 9
    Tsulagi says:

    How can the leadership of an elected party say, with a straight face, that they intend to hold hearings into alleged malfeasance and criminal behavior, but don’t worry, they won’t do anything about it? It is a joke. It is worse than a joke. It is fraud.

    It’s the Democratic Party. They don’t want the other guys to get mad at them and call them names.

    Swear to God, you could throw these dipshits into the deep end of a pool telling them you’d be mad if they swam out. They would then sit on the bottom of the fucking pool sagely raising an eyebrow thinking “You pick your swims, today is not the smart day to swim.” Maybe the real rebels among them would write a sternly worded note of protest, while under water.

    I’m pretty much done with them.

  10. 10
    Jeff Hebert says:

    It’s been said better elsewhere, but it boils down to the fact that most of the Congressional Democratic leadership is complicit in the same crimes they would be impeaching Bush/Cheney for. That’s why they were so eager to get FISA done, and so reluctant to call any of the BS that’s been going down since 9/11 — they’re just as legally under the gun as the people they’d be going after.

    Pelosi was briefed on the warrantless wiretapping when it was being started and didn’t say a peep. Ditto Rockefeller. There’s no way they’re going to want any of this brought up again in a public forum. That’ll have to wait on new blood, which of course is another way of saying it will never be investigated at all, much less see anyone charged with anything.

  11. 11
    cleek says:

    this is exactly why i don’t donate to the DNC. it’s my own little protest.

  12. 12
    Dreggas says:

    calipygian Says:

    Who is the foreign official that Kucinich has lined up? If its Tony Blair, that could force things wide open.

    I have a nagging suspicion that might just be who he has in mind. Blair was savaged for his role in this and probably would happily throw bush under the bus.

  13. 13
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    This is either an election year stunt and the Bush administration is owed a number of apologies, or the Democratic leadership themselves are complicit, or both.

    Satire, Bitches! Get it?? Congress is skewering a do-nothing Congress with it’s portrayal of a Congress that is unwilling to do anything. I think it’s clever, edgy and funny as hell.

  14. 14
    Paul L. says:

    I would love to see the impeachment of Bush.

    I suspect it would backfire on the Democrats like the Clinton Impeachment did for the Republicans.

    I also suspect the same people who said nasty things about Henry Hyde and Bob Barr for the Clinton Impeachment, will be outraged when right wingers say the same about Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers.

  15. 15
    Dreggas says:

    Oh and given that what consists of “Dem Leadership” was complicit in the crimes of the bush administration they’d have to impeach themselves too.

  16. 16
    Gold Star for Robot Boy says:

    No props to JC for dropping Rush lyrics?
    Come on, people!

  17. 17
    Clio says:

    Dreggas Says:

    calipygian Says:

    Who is the foreign official that Kucinich has lined up? If its Tony Blair, that could force things wide open.

    I have a nagging suspicion that might just be who he has in mind. Blair was savaged for his role in this and probably would happily throw bush under the bus.

    As well he should. Bush completely screwed Blair, who I still have a lot of respect for in spite his role in Iraq. Unlike Bush, who belongs in the ninth circle of hell, Blair was at least trying to save the trans-Atlantic alliance and NATO, and trying to do what was right for England in the long run by not throwing the US alliance away. I also think that he actually thought he’d have influence with Bush to get something done with Israel/Palestine. I would love to see Bush’s just desserts served up with that gorgeous British accent. It always sounds so much better.

    And I’m so glad that we wasted this generation’s impeachment on a blowjob instead of real crimes against our Constitution. I swear to god, it’s garbage like this that drives the point home about how spineless the dems are and why they have lost consistently over the last 25 years. Barack doesn’t have the “Reagan fear”, hopefully that will die with the Boomers.

  18. 18
    calipygian says:

    I know who the foreign official is:

    UNITED NATIONS — In the months leading up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration threatened trade reprisals against friendly countries who withheld their support, spied on its allies, and pressed for the recall of U.N. envoys that resisted U.S. pressure to endorse the war, according to an upcoming book by a top Chilean diplomat.

    The rough-and-tumble diplomatic strategy has generated lasting “bitterness” and “deep mistrust” in Washington’s relations with allies in Europe, Latin America and elsewhere, Heraldo Mu¿oz, Chile’s ambassador to the United Nations, writes in his book “A Solitary War: A Diplomat’s Chronicle of the Iraq War and Its Lessons,” set for publication next month.

    Unfortunately, that’s going to be greeted with a collective, “So?”

  19. 19

    Where is the outcry on the blogs?

    We’ve been over this before and there was plenty, PLENTY of outcryin, especially when Pelosi made her ‘impeachment off the table’ remark. And on from there. Signing petitions, calling our congress people, etc. to no avail. After all this time with nothing being done, no matter how much we beg, plead, and harangue our leaders to mete out some accountability, we realize it’s pointless screaming into the wind and it can also drive you a little insane.

    Have a drink.

  20. 20
    Brachiator says:

    Either put an end to this farce, or have faith in the process and act upon the information you find in a manner fitting with the Constitution and the law of the land. Or resign your office and go find employment doing something you are more ably suited to do well. I hear Burger King is hiring cashiers.

    Once again, I’m shocked, shocked to find cowardice among the Democratic Congress.

    Related to the topic, the editorial cartoonist Tab recently did a Bush-oriented variation on the recent Obama New Yorker cartoon (‘New Yorker’ Cover Drawing Inspires Cartoon Takeoffs)

  21. 21
    Dreggas says:

    Paul L. Says:

    I also suspect the same people who said nasty things about Henry Hyde and Bob Barr for the Clinton Impeachment, will be outraged when right wingers say the same about Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers.

    Considering Barr and Hyde were running the impeachment based on something as stupid as lying about a blow-job I doubt I would criticize either Kucinich or Conyers. The reality is all the fucktards on the right would be doing the criticizing just like they cheered on Barr and Hyde. Once again your projection is showing…

  22. 22
    jvill says:

    cleek Says:

    this is exactly why i don’t donate to the DNC. it’s my own little protest.

    Agreed.

    I have sent money to Obama, and to a collection of congressmen, but no DNC. I have been sending money to the ACLU and EFF since they do actually behave as if this country is governed by the Constitution.

  23. 23
    Clio says:

    calipygian Says:

    I know who the foreign official is:

    UNITED NATIONS —In the months leading up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration threatened trade reprisals against friendly countries who withheld their support, spied on its allies, and pressed for the recall of U.N. envoys that resisted U.S. pressure to endorse the war, according to an upcoming book by a top Chilean diplomat.

    The rough-and-tumble diplomatic strategy has generated lasting “bitterness” and “deep mistrust” in Washington’s relations with allies in Europe, Latin America and elsewhere, Heraldo Mu¿oz, Chile’s ambassador to the United Nations, writes in his book “A Solitary War: A Diplomat’s Chronicle of the Iraq War and Its Lessons,” set for publication next month.

    Unfortunately, that’s going to be greeted with a collective, “So?”

    Ugh, you’re probably right. A Chilean diplomat definitely isn’t sexy enough for the MSM. God, I was so excited for that brief moment of thinking it was Blair, the media would have no excuse for not covering it.

  24. 24
    KRK says:

    either…the Bush administration is owed a number of apologies…

    Yeah, I’m gonna go with not that. Unless it’s possible to have a negative number of apologies.

  25. 25
    JL says:

    The Republicans are spineless also in that they continue defending Bush. If they brought impeachment charges up, they might be able to keep a few seats.

  26. 26
    JC says:

    I wasn’t sure where to put this, so I’ll put it here –

    Larry Craig on being jerked around by the gas nozzle.

    For what it’s worth, Venezuela, I believe, isn’t trying to jerk the U.S. around by the gas nozzle. Venezuela simply has a very wide stance. It’s common knowledge.

  27. 27
    JL says:

    Nancy does seem to be finding her voice. From TPM news comes this “President Bush has been a “total failure” in everything from the economy to the war to energy policy, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday. In an interview on CNN, the California Democrat was asked to respond to video of the president criticizing the Democratic-led Congress for heading into the final 26 days of the legislative session without having passed a single government spending bill. “You know, God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States, a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject,” Pelosi replied. She then tsk-tsked Bush for “challenging Congress when we are trying to sweep up after his mess over and over and over again.”

  28. 28
    eastriver says:

    Finally something besides HRC to get JC’s knickers in a twist.

    Go, go, go.

  29. 29
    jvill says:

    Paul L. Says: I would love to see the impeachment of Bush.

    I suspect it would backfire on the Democrats like the Clinton Impeachment did for the Republicans.

    Clinton approval rating at time of impeachment: 65%
    Bush current approval rating: 31%

    I suspect you would be wrong, but I would love, love, love to find out.

  30. 30
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Nancy does seem to be finding her voice. From TPM news comes this “President Bush has been a “total failure” in everything from the economy to the war to energy policy, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday. In an interview on CNN, the California Democrat was asked to respond to video of the president criticizing the Democratic-led Congress for heading into the final 26 days of the legislative session without having passed a single government spending bill. “You know, God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States, a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject,” Pelosi replied. She then tsk-tsked Bush for “challenging Congress when we are trying to sweep up after his mess over and over and over again.”

    I think some of that frustration is of the “we give him everything he wants, Iraq funding, FISA, etc. and he still kicks us” variety. Fuck Nancy Pelosi. At this point she is a big part of the problem.

  31. 31
    calipygian says:

    Clinton approval rating at time of impeachment: 65%
    Bush current approval rating: 31%

    I suspect you would be wrong, but I would love, love, love to find out

    Who knows? Impeachment may cause Bush’s approval rating to skyrocket to 35%

    Broder’s boy gets a pony!

  32. 32
    Ted says:

    It still amazes me that perjury during a civil suit was grounds for impeachment, but major felonies, and I don’t think I need to or could list them all, are things we just need to wait out for a better president.

  33. 33

    I think they’re snorting all their dry powder.

  34. 34
    Clio says:

    Ted Says:

    It still amazes me that perjury during a civil suit was grounds for impeachment, but major felonies, and I don’t think I need to or could list them all, are things we just need to wait out for a better president.

    Sadly, this no longer amazes me so much as saddens me. I lost the ability to be shocked by what this administration gets away with years ago. Perhaps its part of the “Learned Helplessness” syndrome that Dear Leader is so fond of?

  35. 35
    flavortext says:

    The Democratic leadership may come around yet. Impeachment was off the table not so long ago, but now we’re holding hearings. Kucinich’s resolution to impeach Cheney, who is even more unpopular than Bush, died but this one still lives.

    The odds are pretty slim, but who knows? Maybe Pelosi will get out of DC and wake up one day in San Francisco with a terrible outbreak of common sense.

  36. 36
    flavortext says:

    It still amazes me that perjury during a civil suit was grounds for impeachment, but major felonies, and I don’t think I need to or could list them all, are things we just need to wait out for a better president.

    It’s going to be hard to explain that to future generations. I propose we all pretend that the country was drugged by the smoke plumes from the twin towers and the effects didn’t wear off for about a decade. Lawmakers were harder hit because they all toured the rubble for several days.

  37. 37
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Maybe Pelosi will get out of DC and wake up one day in San Francisco with a terrible outbreak of common sense

    God bless Nancy Pelosi. She’s been an almost total failure as Speaker of the House and one day in the next six months, she’s just gonna up and get common sense and impeach the only motherfucker that makes her look competent and decent?

  38. 38

    […] Speaking of Pelosi… Impeachment is back on the table! Well, sort of. A little, maybe. Read John Cole’s post, “All Preordained“, to get a better understanding of what’s going on. Leave a Reply « Potpourri Of Happenings       […]

  39. 39
    John Cole says:

    No props to JC for dropping Rush lyrics?
    Come on, people!

    I aim to please.

  40. 40
    Ken says:

    I think America doesn’t give a rat’s ass.

    They want gas prices to come down, a war to end, health care and jobs.

    If anyone cared about this, Kucinich would have got more then 10 votes.

  41. 41
    NR says:

    A recent conversation on another forum:

    Other commenter: If Bush were a Democrat, the Republicans would have impeached him by now.

    Me: If Bush were a Democrat, the Democrats would have impeached him by now.

  42. 42
    Ted says:

    It’s going to be hard to explain that to future generations. I propose we all pretend that the country was drugged by the smoke plumes from the twin towers and the effects didn’t wear off for about a decade. Lawmakers were harder hit because they all toured the rubble for several days.

    We might as well tell them the truth: the Republican party was trying to take complete and permanent control of the government and was willing to break just about any law short of eliminating elections to do it. When they ask what the GOP’s government endgame was supposed to be, we can just direct them to read up on the Chinese Communist Party.

  43. 43
    John S. says:

    I suspect you would be wrong, but I would love, love, love to find out.

    Don’t suspect — one thing you can always count on is Paul “Jenin=Qana” L. being wrong.

    Well, that and that all roads lead to Duke lacrosse.

  44. 44
    TenguPhule says:

    Paul L. Says: Look at me! I can pee in the gene pool!

    Death may be too good for these polis and pundits. But as long as it makes them stop….

  45. 45
    The Moar You Know says:

    Gold Star for Robot Boy Says:

    No props to JC for dropping Rush lyrics?
    Come on, people!

    July 17th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Freewill, bitches! Exit Stage Left has the best version.

    Bass solo took me days to learn :)

  46. 46
    Heshe says:

    I learned about a year ago that all four of my state’s Democratic party member Congress critters (includes “Patches” Kennedy, the boy congressman) don’t give a flying fuck about the Constitution, as much as the claim otherwise.

    If nothing else, the last 12 years clearly shows, in an increasing manner as time goes on, that the corporations and special interests run the show and basically own the government and us. Isn’t that fascism, or something like it?

  47. 47
    Ash Can says:

    Nancy Pelosi is scheduled to do a Q&A session Saturday morning at the GOS’s Netroots Nation convention. I’m thinking we could learn more from that than from the above Yahoo News article.

  48. 48
    Xenos says:

    There is a cancer on the presidency, but this time the patient would rather die than go through another round of chemo.

    Sic transit gloria mundi. Article IV, Section 4. Who’s gonna call the constitutional convention? Anyone? I can’t take another 40 years of this crap.

  49. 49
    cleek says:

    We’ve been over this before and there was plenty, PLENTY of outcryin, especially when Pelosi made her ‘impeachment off the table’ remark.

    Google: +impeachment “off the table” cleek

    151 hits

  50. 50
    yet another jeff says:

    Stay away from the Burger King that hires these jokers…it’ll be home of the $9 billion Whopper.

  51. 51
    NonWonderDog says:

    Wow, I think I know what dyslexia must feel like now. I read “All Preordained” as “Prisoner in chains.” Wishful thinking, I guess?

  52. 52
    NonWonderDog says:

    I feel stoopid. Ignor me plese.

  53. 53
    tballou says:

    They are all totally fucking guilty. Bush, Cheney, Rice, Gonzalez, the whole pack of liars, plus almost all the Democratic leadership – Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, etc. These bastards will not investigate themselves and the AG won’t do it, so we are all stuck with a completely disfunctional criminal government. Probably not the first time this has happened in this country, so maybe this is not a totally fatal condition, but it sure stinks to high heaven right now. Can Saint Obama save us from ourselves?

  54. 54

    […] John Cole gets exercised about the curious pas des centains. Either put an end to this farce, or have faith in the process and act upon the information you find in a manner fitting with the Constitution and the law of the land. […]

  55. 55
    dan robinson says:

    Sic transit gloria mundi. Article IV, Section 4. Who’s gonna call the constitutional convention? Anyone? I can’t take another 40 years of this crap.

    The problem is that we elect people based on personality.

    Exit polls always turn up people who are adamant supports of this candidate or that one, and they vote on the basis of either a single issue or none at all.

    We should be voting on issues, not personalities.

  56. 56
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    We should be voting on issues, not personalities.

    You think this is bad?? Imagine seven and a half years of Al Gore sighing loudly. Puts it in perspective, doesn’t it?

  57. 57
    Xenos says:

    Seven and one half years of Al Gore would have involved at least five attempts to impeach him over accidentally making a fundraising call from the wrong phone, letting donors use the Lincoln Bedroom, and meeting with monks on the steps of a temple. Thank god we avoided that nightmare.

  58. 58
    cain says:

    A prisoner in chains? A victim of vehement fate? It’s sad that there are one other person besides me who thought of a Rush lyric. :-) (maybe that’s three, eh John?)

    cain

  59. 59
    cain says:

    Oh wait, there’s a whole gaggle of you. I”m in great company. :)

    cain

  60. 60
    Eric says:

    I think that we the progressive public should be organizing to put more pressure on Congress, through any means possible, to impeach the POTUS and that we should demonstrate to them our support and determination to turn this nation around. We’ve waited too long just for this opportunity to let it slip away. I for one will start leafleting the public on this and other current, progressive issues.

  61. 61

    The point of this is that the Executive has a lot fewer options to avoid testifying for an impeachment hearing rather than an oversight hearing. I don’t know if it trumps executive privilege, but there isn’t any dodge that it is an exclusively Executive power. Expect a lot more inability to recall anything if this gets going. Frankly, given the memories displayed by administration officials lately, I’m surprised they haven’t forgotten how to tie their own shoes.

    Also, if this gets underway, you can still impeach someone after they have left office. It prevents them working in government again, as well as making the symbolic statement.

  62. 62
    MeDrewNotYou says:

    Does anyone remember a Politically Incorrect episode a year or two ago with Richard Dreyfuss? He had just completed studying at Oxford (I think). However many courses he had taken, he was quite well-spoken on rule-of-law and democracy.

    In any case, Dreyfuss repeatedly made the point that we need to impeach to make a stand that America won’t let precedent like that established by Bush & Co. stand. He was pretty clear that although kicking Bush out of office would be great, its the impeachment that matters. The point is disclaiming and renouncing Bush & Co., a ‘never-again’ type thing.

    That the Dem leaders won’t even do that is shameful and a bit worrisome.

  63. 63
    liberal says:

    At this point, it’s too late to impeach.

    What I’m concerned about is that they’ll never get around to investigating the lies that sent us into Iraq.

    For me, #1 would be to investigate the “aluminum tubes” BS.

  64. 64
    Antid Oto says:

    Nice to see that “Schiavo” only rendered you “brain-dead” for 3 years.

    I assume that’s a joke. I find it to be highly tasteless and very funny.

  65. 65
    El Cid says:

    Around these times when right wing pushers crazy criminal policies stand the tiniest risk of being held responsible, it becomes time for the Establishment / Village to demand ‘the healing’ begin.

    A little over 100 million years ago, a similar situation was faced by all those urged to please stop bothering everyone about Iran-Contra. From FAIR, those unhinged left loonies:

    Iran-Contra: Sweep It Away

    March 1993

    Most of the major media reacted to George Bush’s last-minute pardon of leading Iran-Contra figures with less than outrage. The conventional wisdom in media circles for years has been that the scandal is old news and it should just go away. Robert MacNeil of the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour (12/24/92) spoke for many in the media when he asked Tom Blanton of the National Security Archive:

    Mr. Blanton, why does this issue remain important? Clearly, the public is bored with it. The polls all show that years ago they stopped being interested in it. Why not, as Mr. Bush describes in his pardon statement, why not bring in the healing power of the pardon and sweep it away and sweep the bitterness away?

    Blanton pointed out that what polls actually show is that most voters did not believe that Bush was telling the truth about Iran-Contra, and that this was a factor in Bush’s electoral defeat.

    MacNeil then turned to his other guest, Richard Perle, a former assistant to pardon-recipient Caspar Weinberger, and demonstrated what he considers asking tough questions of both sides: “Mr. Perle, I believe you would sympathize with the president and his desire to sweep the bitterness away with the pardon?”

    Most news outlets have been so busy trying to “sweep away” the legacy of Iran-Contra that they never fully grappled with the scandal–and don’t understand what really happened or who was involved. The coverage of the pardons provided proof of this: The Chicago Tribune (12/26/92), trying to provide background on the arms-for-hostages deal, wrote, “There is no evidence that Bush had any knowledge about the other part of the affair: a covert weapons pipeline set up to aid the Nicaraguan Contras after Congress prohibited direct government assistance in 1984.”

    In fact, Bush’s involvement with the Contra operation is well documented. In 1986, then-Vice President Bush met with Felix Rodriguez, an ex-CIA operative who coordinated the illegal airlift of arms to the Contras from El Salvador; according to a memo written by his staff briefing Bush on the meeting, the two discussed “resupply of the contras.” Rodriguez was in frequent contact with Bush’s office; Oliver North wrote in his diary that Rodriguez was “talking too much about VP connection.”

    There was almost no hint of this record in any of the coverage of either the pardons or Bush’s re-election campaign. In all the ’92 campaign coverage in the New York Times, the L.A. Times and the Washington Post, there was not a single story that quoted the “resupply of the contras” memo. (The L.A. Times, 5/16/92, did refer to it once in passing in a story about former Bush aide Donald Gregg, and the Washington Post mentioned it– 6/20/92–in a theater review.) On the issue of illegal arms to the Contras, the leading U.S. newspapers seem to have given Bush a pardon of their own.

    Thankfully that all worked out correctly and none of the “Iran-Contra” scumbags like Richard Perle or Elliot Abrams or John Negroponte or John Poindexter etc. ever bothered us again, and Bush Jr. got the opportunity to prove his Daddy was wrong about everything.

  66. 66
    Napoleon says:

    Thankfully that all worked out correctly and none of the “Iran-Contra” scumbags like Richard Perle or Elliot Abrams or John Negroponte or John Poindexter etc. ever bothered us again, and Bush Jr. got the opportunity to prove his Daddy was wrong about everything.

    I have been absolutely convinced for years that the mistake of lettin that go lead to Clinton’s impeachment and of course the disaster of the last 7 1/2 years. That has a lot to do why I was so outraged over the FISA cave. The Dems really need to shine a light on everything that has gone wrong if they want to stop it from happening again in the future.

  67. 67
    Original Lee says:

    Slightly OT, but after this time, I still mentally read HRC as “Her Royal Clintoness”.

  68. 68
    Original Lee says:

    Poop. I gotta proofread better. Should be “after all this time”.

  69. 69
    Scott Jacobs says:

    if Clinton’s BJ warranted articles of impeachment

    The true irony being that it wasn’t the BJ that did it, it was the lying under oath, using the IRS to attack opponents (Something Clinton did, and Nixon was accused of trying to do…

    But that’s neither here nor there…

    If Bush were a Democrat, the Democrats would have impeached him by now.

    Please… The democrats can’t even rid themselves of a guy who had stacks of bribe money sitting in his freezer… You think they would clean their own house?

  70. 70
    Doug H. (Fausto no more) says:

    A little late, but let me explain this as simply as possible:

    House votes to impeach.
    Senate Republicans rally around the President.
    Bush skates, then claims his acquittal justifies everything.
    Compliant media nods solemnly and breaks out the kneepads.

    Am I missing anything here?

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    redwards95 says:

    It’s clear our convoluted system of checks and balances no longer functions leading to an ever increasing and out of control executive branch. It’s time to go a parliamentary system so the voters can do the accountability when their representatives don’t have the spine. If that had been in place, Bush would have left office after the elections of 2006 instead of us being forced to endure another 2 years of his stupidity and 28% approval rating.

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    Doug H. (Fausto no more) says:

    It’s time to go a parliamentary system so the voters can do the accountability when their representatives don’t have the spine.

    I remain unconvinced that a system that gets you Tony Blair or Silvio Berlusconi is an improvement over the one we have now.

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    […] …also adding that John Cole’s head is about to explode, as is mine: mpeachment is on the table. […]

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    JL:
    nancy is finding her voice.

    Oh bullshit. Pelosi has some nerve. Bush has been HIGHLY successful: he gets what he wants from this congress. If he wanted a third term, you can bet they’d be bending over backwards to make it happen.

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    Notorious P.A.T. says:

    The reality is all the fucktards on the right would be doing the criticizing just like they cheered on Barr and Hyde.

    Obviously. Of course, they will criticize Democrats no matter what they do, so we might as well do something to deserve it, like throw their beloved Decider out on his sorry ass.

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    […] John Cole has excellent advice for the Democratic Party congressional “leadership” on this parliamentary maneuver: it’s time to shit or get off the pot. […]

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    John PM says:

    Doug H. (Fausto no more) said:
    A little late, but let me explain this as simply as possible:

    House votes to impeach.
    Senate Republicans rally around the President.
    Bush skates, then claims his acquittal justifies everything.
    Compliant media nods solemnly and breaks out the kneepads.

    Am I missing anything here?

    A couple more points to add:
    1) Senate Republicans and Joe Liberman rally around the President (except for John McCain, who for some reason could not make the vote)
    2) John Roberts, who presides over the hearing since he is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, rules that Bush is entitled to exert Executive Privilege for any statements, conversations, communications, or thoughts he has ever had for his entire life (starting at conception). Roberts further extends executive privilege to anyone who has (1) worked in the White House, the Executive Branch, or the military; (2) donated money to Bush or the Republican Party; (3) been a Republican member of Congress from 2000 through the present; and (4) been in Bush’s thoughts and prayers.
    3) Dick Cheney shoots Harry Reid in the face, after which Reid appologizes for having been in the Senate.

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    Tax Analyst says:

    John PM Says:

    Doug H. (Fausto no more) said:
    A little late, but let me explain this as simply as possible:

    House votes to impeach.
    Senate Republicans rally around the President.
    Bush skates, then claims his acquittal justifies everything.
    Compliant media nods solemnly and breaks out the kneepads.

    Am I missing anything here?

    A couple more points to add:
    1) Senate Republicans and Joe Liberman rally around the President (except for John McCain, who for some reason could not make the vote)
    2) John Roberts, who presides over the hearing since he is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, rules that Bush is entitled to exert Executive Privilege for any statements, conversations, communications, or thoughts he has ever had for his entire life (starting at conception). Roberts further extends executive privilege to anyone who has (1) worked in the White House, the Executive Branch, or the military; (2) donated money to Bush or the Republican Party; (3) been a Republican member of Congress from 2000 through the present; and (4) been in Bush’s thoughts and prayers.
    3) Dick Cheney shoots Harry Reid in the face, after which Reid appologizes for having been in the Senate.

    pretty much so…

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    mclaren says:

    I don’t want to defend the sniveling toadies in the Democratic wing of both houses of congress, but there remain some very solid reasons why Pelosi refused to impeach.

    [1] Although the House is currently majority Democratic, the Senate is for all practical purposes evenly divided. The sociopath Lieberman remains a Repub in all but name, so there’s effectively a perfectly split between Repubs and Demos in the senate, and of course Cheney would the the tiebreaking vote. Unless you can see Cheney voting for his own impeachment, impeachment can’t go anywhere because while the House votes whether to impeach or not, the actual impeachment trial takes place in the Senate. Pelosi and the Demos aren’t stupid: they realize that because of the Senate’s effectively 50-50 split a trial couldn’t even get underway in the Senate.

    [2] The Repubs have developed incredible party discipline and vote as a unified block in both houses of congress. This makes it effectively impossible to overcome a Republican filibuster, which would surely greet either an attempt to vote on articles of impeachment in the House, or an attempt to mount an impeachment trial in the Senate. In order to overcome a Repub filibuster and vote for cloture, the Demos would need a bulletproof 60% majority in both houses of congress…which they aren’t even close to having.

    [3] As Jeff Hebert and others have mentioned, huge numbers of Demos remain complicit with the war crimes and crimes against the constitution committed by this maladministration. The problem isn’t just that we’ve got a rogue presidency that’s lawless and out of control, the problem is much bigger than that — we have a huge constituency in America for throwing out large parts of the constitution. Somewhere between 30% and 60% of the American public, depending on the exact poll, currently favor throwing out the 1st amendment (free speech – no prior restraint and no rounding up of demonstrators to confine ’em in caged “free speech” areas), the 4th amendment (long since gone what with property forfeiture, warrantless wiretapping, NSA sigint interception, ISP deep packet inspection, etc.), the 5th amendment (eliminated by extraordinary rendition), the 6th amendment (eliminated by declaring citizens “enemy combatants”), the 8th amendment (gone as soon as we started torturing people), and the 9th and 10th amendments (eliminated by signing statements, executive orders, national security letters, and policies like the TSA’s secret laws).

    If we start trying and convicting all the members of this maladministration complicit in these criminal violations of the constitution, we’d also have to drag most of the congress and a lot of the American people into court too. Large parts of American society now worship dictatorship and love torture and despise the constitution.

    [4] Wounded animals become most dangerous when cornered. I think there’s a general sense throughout the Demo leadership that the sociopaths in power have been mortally wounded and will eventually slink away if allowed to. But if faced with an imminent threat like impeachment, I think the Democratic leadership has very real fears that the lunatics in the White House might start doing crazy things like declaring martial law, postponing the November election, or who-knows-what-all. These things of course seem unthinkable today. We need to remember that only a few short years ago, America torturing prisoners, abolishing the right to a trial, and kidnapping people without charges and without a warrant and holding them incommunicado in black holes beyond the reach of the law were also considered unthinkable.

    [5] Like all bullies, the thugs currently in power have brutalized the American people to the point where everyone is now pretty much going through battered-wife syndrome. We’re all so busy reeling from the latest insane outrage of the week, whether it’s some crazy scare like a threat to nuke Tehran, or demented proposals to declare birth control legally equivalent to abortion, that we’re all shell-shocked…we can’t process the non-stop assaults that rain down on us daily, much less clear our minds and put together enough resolve to mount a massive impeachment drive and gather together the sufficient coalitions to batter through the far-right propaganda wall. Asking the American people to undertake impeachment right now is like asking a woman to gather up all her belongings and get her kids and flee the house while she’s being bludgeoned with a baseball bat by her husband. She’s too busy just warding off the blows, trying to survive, to worry about anything else.

    [6] Sociopaths have taken control of large parts of the U.S. media, from Limbaugh and Colter to Michelle Malkin and Dr. Laura. Fox News remains the top-rated news network, yet is vomits out virtually nothing but a pack of lies and a steady stream of crazed fearmongering. Trying to clean the sociopaths out of the White House while the fringe lunatics spew hate from their media bully pulpits is as unrealistic as expecting a young woman trapped in a fundamentalist religious cult to escape while everyone around her hammers her with warnings that she’ll go to hell and be damned forever if she leaves.

    [7] It’s clear from the polls that we’re passing through the tail end of one of the great episodes of mass insanity in American history, comparable to the hysteria during WW I when schnausers got kicked to death on the street because they were German and Eugene Debs was stripped of his citizenship and sentenced to 10 years in prison for reading a speech against WW I. In fact, we should probably be grateful that the current bout of mass insanity wasn’t as bad as the McCarthy mania or the WW I hysteria or the mass insanity of the Palmer raids, or the lunacy that erupted in mass riots during the Viet Nam war. As bad as things are, this current epidemic of mass insanity has lasted a far shorter time than the chaos during WW I or the McCarthy witch hunts, and many fewer people have had their lives destroyed. To my knowledge, for example, no one has been tried and convicted for sedition and had their citizenship stripped and sentenced to 10 years in prison for reading a speech against the Iraq war.

    Obviously this doesn’t mean that things are going well today: they aren’t. Still, the mass insanity seems to be tapering off, and the American people seem to be slowly regaining their senses. The problem is that you can’t push that kind of process. It has to happen on its own timetable. Just as in the aftermath of the Satanic Panic in the 1980s, when huge numbers of people ran around screaming that America was riddled with satanic child molestation cults (which turned out not to exist) and that many millions of adults suffered from “recovered memory syndrome” (which turned out to be a fantasy with no basis in reality), it took a long long time for al the craziness and the urban legends and the fantasies and the delusions and the dementia to die out for sanity to return. When large numbers of people do crazy things en masse, it becomes extremely difficult for them to admit afterwards that they acting crazily. Much easier for everyone just to walk away and pretend nothing ever happened. Which, frankly, is what most Americans are in the process of doing right now, and will continue to do once the current batch of war criminals and sociopaths leave the White House. After all — ask yourself: how many people guilty of war crimes for all the illegal bombing the Vietnam war ever got tried or convicted or served time? No one. Not one. We all just walked away and tried to forget our mass insanity and pretend it didn’t happen.

    This is perhaps the biggest reason for no impeachment. The entire country would be unable to easily forget this whole nightmare, we’d have to face our complicity as a nation for letting this lunatic in the White House get so far out of hand. We wouldn’t be able to downplay our own American-Idol-watching summer-superhero-movie-watching Brad-and-Angelina-obsessed role as negligent irresponsible citizens in the destruction of our democracy.

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    Andrew Yu-Jen Wang says:

    George W. Bush’s sentence-by-sentence speaking skills are deteriorating. Apparently, this may be due to a mental illness called “presenile dementia.” Bush may or may not be secretly still drinking heavily. Bush lied, and thousands of people died. Bush suffers from narcissism and megalomania. Moreover, Bush has been arrested three times. Bush was arrested for disorderly conduct. Bush was arrested for stealing. Bush was also arrested for a serious crime—driving under the influence of alcohol. There are reasons to believe that Bush suffers from a learning disability. Bush’s learning disability would explain a lot of things. All in all, Bush is a severely mentally ill individual. Bush is not fit to be the president of the United States.

    Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
    B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
    Messiah College, Grantham, PA

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