Cher
Dance music (although I do like some)
Rainbow flags
Drag Shows
Decorating
Madonna
Abercrombie & Fitch
The Wizard of Oz
Queer as Folk
Janet Jackson
Wine Coolers
South Beach
Morrissey
The Human Rights Campaign
“Manscaping”
Rainbow stickers on my car
Queer Eye for the Straight Guy (*cringe*)
and countless other things…
That being said, I do love me some West Hollywood, but not because it’s gay. It’s just a nice place to visit. I’ll just take this opportunity to wish anyone who cares a Happy Pride Month. I’ll be volunteering with the Atlanta Humane Society at their booth next weekend at the Atlanta Civic Center. I’ll probably also be walking a dog in the parade.
Stop by and say “Hey gurl” and watch me look at you like you’re an idiot.
Ted
OK. We get it. You’re one of those ‘butch’ gay guys. I myself am more of the “you’d never suspect” type.
I can’t stand most of those things either, though.
johninpt
Can’t argue with a single thing on that list, except maybe to jack up my feelings on HRC to the “loathe” level.
benjamin
Things I am not a fan of:
Gay guys who feel the need to point out they are nothing *nothing* like the stereotype.
Not because there is anything wrong with being nothing like the stereotype. But because there is nothing wrong with the stereotype either.
Zifnab
I noticed “Abba” was suspiciously absent from that list.
b. hussein canuckistani
You didn’t say “ABBA”.
Happy Pride Week from the land of legal same-sex marriage!
(I like the Wizard of Oz, but that doesn’t mean much ’cause I’m straight. I like Drag Shows too, as long as I’m sitting far enough back that I’m not hit by exploding engine debris.)
anonymous 37
… Morrissey
Not even the The Smiths years? Morrissey is in on the top of my “hate to love” list.
Besides, isn’t he an asexual icon more than he is a gay one?
b. hussein canuckistani
Curse you Zifnab!
*shakes fist
ImJohnGalt
My wife and I are hosting a large-ish (60-80 people) caipirinha party before the Parade here in Toronto on Sunday. There will be more than a million people along the parade route. We’ll all get toasty then walk up to watch.
We love us some gays here in Canada.
Dreggas
given that West Hollywood is the home of the Pleasure Chest, of course it’s a great place to visit! :D
BC3
b. hussein canuckistani:
Awesome. I like drag shows, too. But I guess that doesn’t mean much, because I hail from the great state of Ohio.
Zifnab
That was the gayest unlisted thing I could think of, and it scares the hell out of me that less than a minute later someone else thought of it, too.
Zifnab
Wexlered.
Dreggas
oh there are fun things to do and buy there hehehe.
Z
Sadly, I only agree with you on HRC.
I hate:
volleyball
mullets
softball
baggy long shorts
sports bras worn as clothing
the Indigo girls
pretty much the entire ‘womyns’ music genre
most hip hop
hairy people
beer cozies
… not that there is anything wrong with my fellow lesbians who like that stuff. I do like flannel.
cleek
i’m not gay, but i hate nearly everything on that list, too.
some things are just worth hating.
Stevenovitch
Since when was Morrissey a gay thing? I don’t know any gay people who actually like, but plenty straight people who do.
Dreggas
I like twinks…
HyperIon
lisping…no one has ever explained it to me.
why do some gay men lisp?
tom.a
Don’t like the Wizard of Oz?! It’s got flying monkeys AND midgets, what’s not to like!
Uncle Kvetch
I’m with Benjamin.
There may be an appropriate time and place for cataloging all the ways you’re not like, y’know, that kind of gay guy. But I can’t imagine a less appropriate time and place than a post that’s supposed to be about Pride.
Kinda sad.
gbear
Minneapolis is having it’s big Pride celebration in Loring Park this weekend. Great place to walk around and run into guys you didn’t want to see to let them know that you’ve gained weight again this year and are still single. They all get a kick out of that. Good times.
jon
I’ve always found manscaping and all the other fetishes involving body hair or a lack thereof to be rather silly, though I think silliness is kind of the point in having fun with your body (and if sex is meant to be a solemn event, please don’t ask me to join you.) I find arguments about it to be even more silly, but it’s kind of nice that people can get so worked up about whether or not someone has a hairy body or genitals.
Arguing about Morrissey is also silly, and I’m sure he’d agree. Unfortunately, he might also write a song about it. But it would be even worse if Sting or Bono wrote about that subject. Or Glen Frey.
RSA
Wow, there’s so much variation in what gay people like and don’t like! It’s like you’re. . . human beings or something.
John S.
Good question.
I don’t know about the ‘lisp’, but I always wondered why so many gay men speak in a way that leaves little question as to their sexual orientation. It seems to have nothing to do with regional or ethnic background. I honestly can’t believe that whatever hardwiring causes some men to be gay also causes their diction to be altered. I had always presumed it was simply an affectation.
gbear
Can I add David Bowie to the ‘hate’ list? He was only gay as a marketing tool. Billy Bragg gets to take his place as an honorary ‘like’ for the song Sexuality plus every other lyric he’s written.
Only thing I disagree with on JC’s list is The Wizard of Oz, and only thing I disagree with on Z’s list is hairy people, but then I’m a bear…
I’d also like to add glow sticks to the HATE list. Gay cruises can go there too.
b. hussein canuckistani
I’ve heard a number of people talk about the death of Gay Culture as gay people get absorbed into the mainstream. It’ll be interesting to see if this happens, and if the lisp disappears.
gbear
Most gay people don’t lisp. Some straight people lisp. I think it’s more of a media projection than anything real. Some of it is just assuming that people you meet who are lisping are probably gay. Get over it, thilly.
Apologies to Michael for not seeing his byline on the original post. I still like the Wizard anyway. Happy Pride.
Ted
Nah, don’t let that fool you. We’re still evil demons bent on world domination and converting the schools into gay-gay factories.
Kevin
You forgot Liza Minnelli
Dreggas
the whole talk/effeminate thing is not something that’s an affectation. I know plenty of gay guys who don’t do this and plenty who do, it’s probably genetic just like orientation. As for me, get me drunk and I can queen with the best of them *3 snaps*
demimondian
Are gay-gay factories the places they make all the copies of Jar-jar’s (more) evil cousin?
RSA
And Audrey Hepburn?
demimondian
By the way, happy 39th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots. Looking forward to more to celebrate during the fortieth anniversary.
gbear
And Tammy Faye. How’d she become and icon anyway??
bobbo
Sorry, Sister, I like just about everything on that list except the Human Rights Campaign. I also like Rufus Wainwright and k.d. lang. Your list looks pretty much like, “anything that anyone might consider to be stereotypically gay.” Doth the lady protest just a tad too much, or is she just trying to impress Andrew Sullivan? But as long as we’re bashing each other, I pretty much can’t stand bears, leather, nose rings (especially horse-shoes), Budweiser, spitting, and rugby.
tattoosydney
Dammit, Kevin… I had managed to forget Liza (particularly this scarily prescient and rather terrifying filmclip for “Losing my mind”)…
and now she’s back in my head…
[Thinks butch throughts to prevent lisping]
Zifnab
Wait. I like Rufus Wainwright. Does that make me gay?
*pokes penis* Men. *pokes penis again*
Nope. Nothin’.
tde
Here’s why that list is a good thing:
Gays are becoming sufficiently accepted in society that they no longer feel the need to adopt some pre-fab identity.
What’s more – some are sufficiently comfortable with themselves that they feel confident the most annoying and tiresome cliches which some gays feel the need to continue to perpetuate or, worse yet, to defend in the name of “pride.”
If a straight guy says, “I’m not a fan of NASCAR, pro football and titty bars” I don’t think anyone would critcize that statement because it failed to show the requisite solidarity with dudehood.
tde
should be:
What’s more – some are sufficiently comfortable with themselves that they feel confident enough __to criticize__ the most annoying and tiresome cliches which some gays feel the need to continue to perpetuate or, worse yet, to defend in the name of “pride.”
Dave_Violence
I’m a big fan of Judas Priest, the gayest band in the universe.
tattoosydney
Maybe you’re gay, but your penis isn’t?
Derek
I enjoy the Indigo Girls, but I get Z’s point.
gbear
Well! Bobbo is definitely off MY ‘A’-list. I bet he’s crying about it right now.
& agreed: Nose rings really do suck. Plus I’m really glad now that I made it thru the last couple decades without getting a tattoo.
jake
Well that certainly clears everything up. [eye roll]
Aaaand … Demi beat me to it.
Just Some Fuckhead
These are the conversations that make me glad I’m not gay. I don’t have to have allfreakyass likes and dislikes. I can just fall asleep in front of the TV watching my pro wrestling stories, drinking budweiser and scratching my nuts occasionally. *burp*
gbear
and JSFS’s comment reminds me why the naughty fun tends to end when the straight folks sit themselves down at the party. Have an average weekend, guy.
Kyle
You don’t like Cher? Why the fuck bother being gay?
tattoosydney
Cher? Are we talking “Sonny and Cher” Cher, “Silkwood/Moonstruck/Witches of Eastwick” Cher, “wearing two bandages and a body stocking on an aircraft carrier” Cher, or “vocordered disco diva” Cher?
Because my votes would be: “OK”, “love”, “love, in a scary way” and “hate”, in that order.
(and was that the gayest question I have ever asked? I suspect so, yes.)
Just Some Fuckhead
Sorry dawg, it’s the budweiser talkin.
Dreggas
I’m a fucking elitist drinkin St. Pauli Girl
JWW
Well,
You seem to be a “boy” his parents would be proud of. After several months away from the site, you still are trying to justify your man love. Why don’t you just focus on what is going on in the world. I don’t care that you are an ass bandit. Just publish the news.
Oracle
Homophobe.
Nancy Irving
So you’d rather have some hot man-on-dog action? :)
(You don’t like drag shows? Say it ain’t so…)
JWW
Oracle,
Not hardly.
anonymous 37
Wait a minute, I just realized something. I assumed that she must be on the list, but now that I’ve checked, she’s not there.
You left off Barbra Streisand. You better not run for office, or your opponent will make hay out of your unwillingness to denounce her. Or abhor her. Or repudiate her. I forget what the difference is, but you should do all 3, just to be on the safe side.
Chris Johnson
Well phbbbt to you- I like Queer Eye. It’s hilarious, trendy and fun, and about as important as cotton candy, and I like it that way. Particularly Carson Kressley, but the food guy is an absolute sweety (probably the only one I’d want to be dating)
Please yourself, but I’m not even thuper flamey and some of those things in your list rock :)
gbear
JWW, The news is that June is GAY month! GAY! GAY! GAY! Yipee. It’s our special time!! We’re going to party! Go to parks! Buy stuff! Eat food! Sit on grass and listen to bands! Kiss the ones we love!! Whoo-fucking-hoo!!!
I’ll assume that every aspect of your life revolves around where you poke your weiner, just like you assume that about us. I get grossed out just thinking about you and where your lustful weiner have gone.
Grow up.
demimondian
JWW, seriously, guy…get help. You need it.
rachel
JWW is a loony as ever, I see.
Jimmm
I wish I had shown up earlier to save you from embarrassing yourself, Michael. But just in case there’s a chance that you can salvage even a shred of your dignity, here goes: “shut the fuck up.”
Adam
Anyone who hates Morrissey or the Smiths is a little light in the loafers if you ask me.
The Grand Panjandrum
Does that mean you have to make more than one trip when you haul ass?
YellowJournalism
Hey, leave Holly Golightly out of this.
“You know what’s gonna happen to you? I am gonna march you over to the zoo and feed you to the yak.”
Aaron
Hey Micheal D., (and any other gays reading this):
what do you think of “Will & Grace”?
To me, it seems to insultingly stereo type with every gay cliche imaginable. But Im not gay.
Thoughts?
A
Zuzu's Petals
A lesbian friend of mine used to say that lesbians and gay men were so different she couldn’t believe they were part of the same minority.
Michael D.
JWW:
I prefer butt-pirate to ass bandit.
Aaron: Likes W&G in the beginning (i.e., for about a dozen episodes). Then Jack started getting on my nerves.
Michael D.
And by the way, have I ever tried to justify being gay here? That would be very strange, considering I’ve never felt I had to justify it to anyone.
big cloud
You dislike the new Cher? Or the Cher of the 60’s Sonny and Cher? Or both?
deweynet
I HATE Morrissey and The Smiths soo much. It really bugs my wife. There’s only so much of that kind of music I can tolerate. It’s just so depressing. Why can’t he just be happy?
GoMS
I hate it when homosexuals keep sucking my cock!
Steve V
Love WeHo and wished I lived there for 364 days of the year … but I’m not a fan of long commutes and that Halloween traffic can be rough.
JWW
Sorry Michael,
An Ass Bandits from my area is one who enters a National Forest to steal old groth cedar. You are so right, you are a butt pirate. He who takes “the ass of man”. I won’t make the same mistake again.
Rachel,
You are still the runt of the litter. Get used to it.