My Mother’s Take On Spitzer

So I was talking about Eliot Spitzer to my mother, and since he is not a Steeler, Pirate, or Penguin, she had no clue who he was and had no idea there was a scandal. Apparently it was not covered on ESPN or ESPN2.

At any rate, I told her he was the Governor of NY and he had been caught up in a prostitution ring, and she asked how he was involved. I told her he was a john and that these were high-priced hookers charging $1,000-5,000 and hour. What follows is her verbatim response:

“Good Lord!

Good Lord!

He was obviously paying too much. What can you possibly do for $5,000 an hour? Surgery. Life-saving surgery performed on me is worth $5,000 an hour.

Good Lord”

So now you all know where I got my common sense. Consider this an open thread.






341 replies
  1. 1
    TheFountainHead says:

    I think surgery qualifies as an “unsafe sex practice”. Not my cup of tea, really, but hey, to each his own.

  2. 2
    SteveinSC says:

    Nicole Belle at C&L says this Spitzer thing seems to have an odd aroma about it and the media hysteria is taking on proportions not seen in the Vitter case. Hmm.

  3. 3
    Garrigus Carraig says:

    John Cole’s mom FTW

  4. 4
    Tsulagi says:

    Yeah, but mom didn’t see the hooker. If seeing the hooker in question you said “Good Lord!”, some things override common sense. Thank you, Jesus!

  5. 5
    dslak says:

    This helps explain why Sully is so unhinged about Hillary. The Clintons were exploiting fear of teh ghey before Rove honed that strategy.

  6. 6
    Faux News says:

    I dunno Tsulagi. John’s mom has a point. 5K can buy a lot of beer and porn. No worry about STDs.

  7. 7
    ThymeZone says:

    Make the Spitzer prostitution price cuts permanent!

  8. 8
    Studly Pantload says:

    For that kind of money, I’d demand some exterior painting and gutter cleaning. Or whatever the kids are calling it, these days.

  9. 9
    cleek says:

    No worry about STDs

    speaking of STDs

    glad i’m (20 years) out of the market for high school chicks.

  10. 10
    Paul L. says:

    SteveinSC Says:

    Nicole Belle at C&L says this Spitzer thing seems to have an odd aroma about it and the media hysteria is taking on proportions not seen in the Vitter case. Hmm.

    The odd aroma is the fact that C&L does not like it when a Democrat is swiftboated (Has inconvenient facts exposed).
    Forge ahead you wonderful nutroots, fight the “swiftboating” of Eliot Spitzer.

  11. 11
    ntr Fausto Carmona says:

    We should all be so lucky as to have sports-obsessed women in our lives.

  12. 12
    TheFountainHead says:

    John, tell me you’re all over this! I have you pegged as a Sinbad fan. And really, do the American people have any reason not to trust him?

  13. 13
    Jen says:

    The “odd aroma” to me is supposedly repeated cash outlays of $4,300 or so by a man making $179k a year. Not a bad salary, but clearly a splurge. So was any of this money diverted from elsewhere, or does his wife not pay much attention to the finances, or what?

  14. 14
    D-Chance. says:

    SteveinSC Says:

    Nicole Belle at C&L says this Spitzer thing seems to have an odd aroma about it and the media hysteria is taking on proportions not seen in the Vitter case. Hmm.

    I didn’t realize that Vitter was on the short list of possible Democrat veeps this election cycle…

    Also, did Vitter get any less press than his fellow Louisiana Congressman, William Jefferson (of “cold cash” fame)?

    It’s quite telling how thin the soup is when the best Liberals can come up with is “well, he did it, too!” and “but, but… don’t TALK about it! Oh, and he did it, too!”

  15. 15
    Jen says:

    Also, you should rename the post “SPITzer Take.”

    Anytime, really, I aim to please.

  16. 16
    DougJ says:

    I don’t think Sinbad has crossed the commander-in-chief threshold yet, but there’s plenty of time between now and Denver.

  17. 17
    Martin says:

    Actually it was money well spent. We should note that none of the hookers talked. Spitzer should have paid his bankers equally well and he might not be in this mess.

  18. 18
    maxbaer (not the original) says:

    I dunno Tsulagi. John’s mom has a point. 5K can buy a lot of beer and porn. No worry about STDs. And it’s legal.

  19. 19
    DougJ says:

    I didn’t realize that Vitter was on the short list of possible Democrat veeps this election cycle…

    Spitzer wasn’t either, you fucking moron.

  20. 20
    ThymeZone says:

    OT but since Jenis here….

    I’ve made arrnangements to pay the $25 fee I offered for convincing information that Jen is a girl.

    I have recieved such information and the matter is closed.

    What information it was, where I got it, and what triggered my spoof alert mechanism, all classified.

    As for Jen, all I can say is, if Jen isn’t a girl then the spoof is not detectable by me at this point and I bow to a master. Good work.

  21. 21
    Ugh says:

    The “odd aroma” to me is supposedly repeated cash outlays of $4,300 or so by a man making $179k a year. Not a bad salary, but clearly a splurge. So was any of this money diverted from elsewhere, or does his wife not pay much attention to the finances, or what?

    Spitzer’s parents are/were uber-rich.

  22. 22
    Z says:

    Your mother is AWESOME! She sounds like a Mid-westerner! I swear, if Spitzer’s wife had been a Mid-westerner, she would have first screamed at him for spending THAT much money on a hooker and then yelled about the adultery.

  23. 23
    D-Chance. says:

    BTW, McCain goes on a trip to Europe and the Middle East next week. He’ll be accompanied by a couple fellow senators, ONE of whom will, in all probability, be his veep pick. And it’s not Joe Lieberman.

  24. 24
    lutton says:

    >>was not covered on ESPN or ESPN2

    Well, there was some…Tony Kornheiser said his tramp stamp is a picture of Spitzer…

  25. 25
    Jen says:

    You are *such* a weirdo, TZ.

  26. 26
    w vincentz says:

    I’m interested to know Mom’s opinion regarding “sex scandals”. Seems to me that the party that’s against “gay” marriage most often gets trapped with male/male involvements. The Dems seem to go for male/female encounters. Is Vitter a closet Dem?

  27. 27
    Studly Pantload says:

    Also, you should rename the post “SPITzer Take.”

    And here I thought that phrase applied to when one endeavors to make one’s girlfriend laugh immediately after she — oh, never mind.

  28. 28
    Jen says:

    Spitzer’s parents are/were uber-rich.

    Interesting. If they’re still around, wonder if they’re calling their estate planning attorney yet…

  29. 29
    dslak says:

    TZ, we know it was the comment about the Rabbit Pearl that did it, so you don’t have to play these games.

  30. 30
    Zifnab says:

    Interesting. If they’re still around, wonder if they’re calling their estate planning attorney yet…

    Hehe. I can totally hear Spitzer’s dad curmudgeoning… “Witless, stupid, go-for-nothing rug rat busted up the best Brothel in three states. *sigh* At least I’ll always have Vegas.”

  31. 31
    JWeidner says:

    What can you possibly do for $5,000 an hour? Surgery.

    Well, good suction is an important part of many surgeries.

  32. 32
    rob says:

    Your mother is correct. Even high end hookers go for $350 an hour.

    http://miamicompanions.com/cities/

  33. 33
    ThymeZone says:

    You are such a weirdo, TZ.

    Not really, but if you think so,I don’t care.

    Actually I’m a persona, you know nothing about the person who writes my character. Do you?

    I’ve twice explained in considerable deatail my rationale for challenging you as a spoof. I saw no effort on your part to discuss any of it. We live on a blog where spoofing is ubiquitous, there’s nothing weird about it at all. I happen to enjoy detecting spoofs.

    What’s weirdis that you would come to a place that is crawling with spoof, and act like it’s weird to be on the lookout for spoof. What’s weird about it? Isn’t it weirder NOT to be on the lookout for spoofs? To talk to handles that are completely anonymous, and are jerking you around with made up stuff, and not question it?

    You are aware that 2-3 dozen posters here over the years have engaged in offline (off-blog) communication on a regular and organized basis?

    Drop the faux raised eyebrows. I put my money where mouth was, and I conceded. That’s it.

  34. 34
    Paul L. says:

    The Dems seem to go for male/female encounters. Is Vitter a closet Dem?

    So using your logic, Barney Frank, Gerry Studds and James McGreevey are Republicans.

    media hysteria is taking on proportions not seen in the Vitter case

    C&L also forgets the Foley and “Duke” Cunningham coverage.
    Don’t forget Spitzer is in New York the MSM’s backyard.

  35. 35
    w vincentz says:

    good suction is just that…GOOD SUCTION!

  36. 36
    merrinc says:

    What can you possibly do for $5,000 an hour? Surgery. Life-saving surgery performed on me is worth $5,000 an hour.

    See, this is what I miss most about living in West Virginia. That inate, uncanny ability to distill every issue down to its most simple essence. Not just calling a spade a spade but wondering out loud why we’re even talking about the fucking shovel in the first place.

  37. 37
    merrinc says:

    What can you possibly do for $5,000 an hour? Surgery. Life-saving surgery performed on me is worth $5,000 an hour.

    See, this is what I miss most about living in West Virginia. That inate, uncanny ability to distill every issue down to its most simple essence. Not just calling a spade a spade but wondering out loud why we’re even talking about the fucking shovel in the first place.

  38. 38
    Laertes says:

    $5k seems like a lot, but I guess it depends on what you’ve got. Those women are stupendously hot. (I’ve heard people say that since you can’t see their faces, they must be homely. This is doubly silly. First off, there are perfectly obvious reasons a working girl would want to conceal her identity. Secondly, look at those photos. They didn’t have a friend snap those photos with a cheap camera at their trick pad. Those are shots from their portfolios, most of them looked like catalog photos. These girls are professional models. They’re going to have pretty faces.)

    Fact is, if I could have one of them for the sort of money I walk around with, I’d do it. So I guess if I were the sort of person who carried $5k as walking around money (and Spitzer probably is), then it wouldn’t seem so crazy.

    Hell, I spent $25k on my last car. Ten years ago I’d have thought that was a lot. I suppose someone who has ten times as much money as me buys a ferrari with about as much thought.

  39. 39
    TheFountainHead says:

    /flag TZ

    Flag on the play. Irreverent and excessive use of the word “spoof”.

    Penalty is declined, Jen is still a woman.

    /whistle

  40. 40
    Timb says:

    I’m glad the dissenters are here. They remind me how quickly right-wing hypocrites can don the mantle of morality when it’s a Dem accused of bad dealing.

    Gee, it must be good to be a right wing robot today.

  41. 41
    4tehlulz says:

    OT: Admiral “Not on my fucking watch” Fallon resigns from Centcom.

    In before Iran bombing speculation.

  42. 42
    Face says:

    We’re GOING TO WAR with Iran. July. My best guess.

  43. 43
    michael says:

    I think the press has misrepresented the $5000 per hour figure. An article I read left me thinking that the charge was actually $4200 and this included travel time (figure 10 hours to and from NYC-DC) and the quoted fee included her travel expenses (I believe she had her own room foe the night at the Mayflower) and of course train tickets and assorted other T&E costs.

  44. 44
    Face says:

    In before Iran bombing speculation.

    Damn you, numberletters! Mere seconds ahead of me!

  45. 45
    Dug Jay says:

    ThymeZone says:

    You are aware that 2-3 dozen posters here over the years have engaged in offline (off-blog) communication on a regular and organized basis?

    Point of curiosity. Is this “offline” activity of the Spitzer variety or the Craig variety?

  46. 46

    I’m inclined to agree. In fact, my best guess was that she provided no more than a few minutes of entertainment, but the five grand represented a night’s earnings for her to pass on to her pander.

    Still, that only makes her hourly figure more eye popping…

  47. 47
    Laertes says:

    michael: Yeah, the $5k figure comes from a simple inspection of the website, which quotes varying rates for the girls, the most expensive of which is north of $5k.

  48. 48
    Punchy says:

    I’m inclined to agree. In fact, my best guess was that she provided no more than a few minutes of entertainment,

    I’m guessing for the price, he gets to tap that at least a few times throughout the nite. Otherwise, that’s obscenely pricey poonany.

  49. 49
    milo says:

    Hannity just repeated the Josh Marshall spoof about Obama’s pastor going to Tripoli with Farrakhan! Twice!

    What a boob.

  50. 50
    Jen says:

    Isn’t it weirder NOT to be on the lookout for spoofs? To talk to handles that are completely anonymous, and are jerking you around with made up stuff, and not question it?

    I guess it depends on why you’re here. I just like reading funny and interesting takes on things. I’m not really here for financial planning advice or anything. In most cases, I don’t really care who anyone is, much less see the significance of their gender. As far as I can tell, my gender is what you thought I was spoofing. Oh, yes, and you disputed the knitting. Because it’s such a thrill to make up mundane hobbies for my persona. Also, I read from a BAR/BRI book every night to hone my lawyer spoof and steal cute kid anecdotes from mommy blogs for my mommy spoof. It’s time-consuming, but just so worth it!

    So, your hobby is spoof detection on blog commentary threads, fine, but yes, I can think of better uses for one’s time. And you could’ve given that $25 to the MUP.

  51. 51
    w vincentz says:

    Paul L,
    You missed “most often”. Thanks for taking my words out of context anyway. Nice try.

  52. 52
    dbrown says:

    So Adm. W. Fallen, the guy who has prevented a war starting with Iran by bush is resigning – God help us because cheney the mad is soon to be running everthing alone and his shit boy bush will be licking his shit to start bombing Iran for McCain … we are in trouble.

  53. 53
    Michael says:

    Excerpts from NY Times Article: Affidavit: Client 9 and Room 871

    The money he had promised to pay would cover all expenses: the room, the minibar, room service should they order it, the train ticket that had brought her from New York and, naturally, her time.

    An assignation of more than an hour ensued, according to the affidavit

    The appointment was originally booked for four hours and, as Client 9 made his way toward the room, Ms. Lewis asked Kristen to send her a text message when he left. Kristen sent her a message at 12:02 a.m., the appointment having lasted more than an hour.

  54. 54
    ThymeZone says:

    So, your hobby is spoof detection on blog commentary threads

    What a ridiculous fucking thing to say. You have no idea what my hobbies or interests are, do you?

    I’M A PERSONA, you idiot. There is no such person named ThymeZone, you do get that, right?

    Hobbies? Cars, piano, civil war stuff, photography, big band jazz recordings, Italian cooking. I have a lot of hobbies.

    I have an interest in blogging and blog activities, I belong to a mailing list that includes many other posters here who keep up a conversation on the same topics.

    You think it’s “weird?” Spoofing is a major force in blogging right now. It has changed the blog dynamic out there on political sites in the last two years.

    If you want to come to a blog where spoofing has a long tradition, and is being practiced — on you — on a daily basis, and announce that it’s “weird” to be interested in in it, that’s up to you.

    I disagree, I think it’s “weird” to be in a spoofatorium and act like everything you see here is real.

    And you could’ve given that $25 to the MUP.

    Well, I did, at the request of the person who claimed it.

    Along with $1000 so far of my money in the last couple months, I need no lectures from you on that subject.

    Anything else?

  55. 55
    Laertes says:

    Would whoever keeps pulling ThymeZone’s string please give him a rest. You’ll run down his batteries.

  56. 56
    Stoic says:

    As I was reading the first reports of what he was paying, I said to my wife, “$3450 for a hooker! Man, I could buy a really good new laptop for that price.” My wife laughed and commented that it was clear to see what my priorities were.

  57. 57
    Jen says:

    I disagree, I think it’s “weird” to be in a spoofatorium and act like everything you see here is real.

    I didn’t say that. I said I didn’t care. A joke is a joke, an observation is an observation, and I don’t really care if you say you’re in NYC and really you’re in Arkansas.

    Okay, so ThymeZone’s hobby is spoof detection. The person responsible for ThymeZone has nothing to do with spoof detection. That person is off looking at cars while cooking pasta puttanesca and listening to Glenn Miller, wondering why the hell ThymeZone cares so much about my gender. I understand now. Cheers and limoncello.

  58. 58
    TheFountainHead says:

    Would whoever keeps pulling ThymeZone’s string please give him a rest. You’ll run down his batteries.

    Thank you for writing what I was thinking before I thought it.

    In other news, TZ is testy today.

  59. 59
    Jen says:

    You’ll run down his batteries.

    I dunno, those batteries are very long-lasting. But I’ll stop. I promise. Right now. By the way, I’m working on a nice yellow sleeveless spring top for my little girl, it’s on size 3 needles so it’ll take forever, but it’s a lovely soft cotton blend in an unusual shade and it’s turning out really well so far. :)

  60. 60
    Studly Pantload says:

    Well, since we’re laying our cards on the table —

    I’m really not all that studly.

  61. 61
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    Not to worry about the Fallon resignation. He was an experienced, thoughtful, level headed officer – which makes it amazing that he lasted this long under the Bush administration.

    I’m sure that General William Boykin will be glad to come out of retirement and take the job.

    Anyone who publicly says something like this:

    “He went on CNN and he laughed at us, and he said, ‘They’ll never get me because Allah will protect me. Allah will protect me.’ Well, you know what? I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.”

    has to be a shoe in for the Centcom job.

  62. 62
    Krista says:

    “Good Lord!

    Good Lord!

    He was obviously paying too much. What can you possibly do for $5,000 an hour? Surgery. Life-saving surgery performed on me is worth $5,000 an hour.

    Good Lord”

    Sensible woman, your mother. And the Rabbit Pearl comment was mine, where I said that for $5000, I could buy a week in Paris with enough left over for a Rabbit Pearl. What could any paid fuck-bunny do to top that?

  63. 63
    dslak says:

    So Krista and Jen aren’t the same person?

  64. 64
    Brachiator says:

    I’m inclined to agree. In fact, my best guess was that she provided no more than a few minutes of entertainment,

    I’m guessing for the price, he gets to tap that at least a few times throughout the nite. Otherwise, that’s obscenely pricey poonany.

    According to the NY Times transcript, this is what you get for your money (Affidavit: Client 9 and Room 871)

    Ms. Lewis told the client that his balance was $2,721 and that he could pay an additional $2,000 — apparently for future appointments. He said he wasn’t sure that he could find a bank machine that would give him that much money, but he would try. He asked Ms. Lewis to remind him what Kristen looked like and she told him, according to the affidavit, “an American, petite, very pretty brunette, 5 feet 5 inches, and 105 pounds.”

    The appointment was originally booked for four hours and, as Client 9 made his way toward the room, Ms. Lewis asked Kristen to send her a text message when he left. Kristen sent her a message at 12:02 a.m., the appointment having lasted more than an hour.

    When she called Ms. Lewis, they discussed the client’s reputation as a “difficult” man who sometimes asked the prostitutes “to do things you might not think were safe,” Ms. Lewis said. But Kristen, according to court papers, was prepared: “I have a way of dealing with that,” she is quoted as having told Ms. Lewis. “I’d be like, Listen, dude, you really want the sex? …You know what I mean.” The fact was that Kristen liked him, though, and told Ms. Lewis that he wasn’t all that difficult.

    “I mean, it’s just kind of like … whatever … I’m here for a purpose,” the affidavit quotes her as saying. “I know what my purpose is. I am not a … moron, you know what I mean.”

    Ms. Lewis complimented Kristen on her sang-froid, telling her, “You look at it very uniquely, because … no one ever says it that way.”

    After that, they discussed her train ride home. And her share of the cash.

    By way of comparison, British model and TV personality once admitted that she was paid 5,000 UK pounds to have sex, in a deal set up by an Italian madam. In 2007, her modeling career hit the skids when she was caught on a secretly recorded video offering to have sex for 10,000 UK pounds (Sophie Anderton).

    I’m not sure she would be worth it, but one of her boyfriend supposedly made the following comment:

    Matt Graham, a previous boyfriend, told the press: “I was trapped in a nightmare relationship with the girl. It was simply two years of hell. The sex was amazing, really steamy, some of the best I’ve ever had. But it wasn’t worth having to put up with all her emotional baggage.” Graham said that Anderton had lesbian sex behind his back and boasted that the best sex she’d ever had was with a woman.

  65. 65
    Jen says:

    Yeah, I don’t even know what a Rabbit Pearl is, although I like rabbits and pearls. Watership Down is one of my favorites. Of course, you don’t have any way of knowing whether or not that’s actually true, do you? Bwahahaahahahaha

    Krista, did you have that paper that you can put things on and leave it out in the sun and the sun will fade the paper leaving only the color of whatever you put on the paper? I am beginning to think I might’ve been a bit spoiled as a child, btw.

  66. 66
    dslak says:

    Irony is dead:

    China, host of the summer Olympics, is an authoritarian nation that denies its people basic human rights and freedoms, harasses journalists and foreign aid workers and tortures prisoners, the United States charged Tuesday.

  67. 67
    ThymeZone says:

    That person is off looking at cars while cooking pasta puttanesca and listening to Glenn Miller

    Yep, pretty much. Finally learning, after all these years, Moonlight Serenade on the piano. For some reason the tune just eluded me for about fifty years. At first I didn’t really get how great a tune it was, and then I heard it played differently on the radio one day and was sort of blown away by it. I think Miller was just a young guy in his 20’s when he wrote it, which is also sort of astounding.

    Puttanesca is not my favorite dish, but I have made it many times. I don’t do it well for some reason, but I’ve had some in NYC Little Italy that was awesome. Maybe it was just the atmosphere.

    And, cars? Heh. Even people who know me don’t really know what a completely insane car nut I really am. I study cars through their entire lifecycle, from concept to design alternatives to prototypes to production to the street to the track and the shop. Been doing that since I was a kid.

    Now, why am I telling you all this? Because you and I both know that this stuff is about ten thousand times more interesting than knitting, don’t you agree?

    And that sort of describes a lot about you and me, don’t you think so?

    But please, keep up the witty repartee. It’s good practice for when you might need it.

  68. 68
    Jen says:

    So Krista and Jen aren’t the same person?

    Nah, she’s nicer than me. And evidently more convincingly female.

  69. 69
    4tehlulz says:

    I’m really not all that studly.

    Studly Pantload – Studly = Pantload

    You’re Jonah Goldberg? Oh shi-

  70. 70
    dslak says:

    Oh, oh . . . there’s more:

    “In Russia, centralization of power in the executive branch, a compliant State Duma, corruption and selectivity in enforcement of the law,” onerous restrictions on aid groups and the media “continued to erode the government’s accountability to its citizens,” the report said.

    I would ask if these people had any shame, but I already know the answer.

  71. 71
    Zifnab says:

    What could any paid fuck-bunny do to top that?

    I could tell you, but just uttering the description is illegal in about 8 states. Regardless, it involves pulling the pimento out of an olive with your clitoris about half way through and only gets more complicated from there.

  72. 72
    Jen says:

    Now, why am I telling you all this? Because you and I both know that this stuff is about ten thousand times more interesting than knitting, don’t you agree?

    Maybe. But knitting’s more interesting than gender-guessing. Only two possibilities, three, tops.

  73. 73
    Johnny Pez says:

    So now you all know where I got my common sense.

    Did your mom warn you about voting for dimwits? If so, why didn’t you listen to her?

  74. 74
    TheFountainHead says:

    Yeah, I don’t even know what a Rabbit Pearl is, although I like rabbits and pearls.

    Unintentionally hilarious PotD.

    I’m still crying, laughing.

  75. 75
    Studly Pantload says:

    You’re Jonah Goldberg? Oh shi-

    Nah. I’m a retired investor living on a pension. I came home to vote in the presidential election, because they wouldn’t give me an absentee ballot.

  76. 76

    […] John at Balloon Juice’s mom adds the only other thing that needs to be said about that there New York governor and his wacky ways, specifically re: price tags: He was obviously paying too much. What can you possibly do for $5,000 an hour? Surgery. Life-saving surgery performed on me is worth $5,000 an hour. […]

  77. 77
    Jen says:

    Oh fine, FountainHead, make me google the damn thing. I’m not about to do an images search though.

  78. 78

    Zifnab Says:

    What could any paid fuck-bunny do to top that?

    I could tell you, but just uttering the description is illegal in about 8 states. Regardless, it involves pulling the pimento out of an olive with your clitoris about half way through and only gets more complicated from there.

    March 11th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    “I dated this girl for a while… she was really a… nasty freak. She just loved to… get down with… sex all the time. It was like… anytime of day… she was like, “Yeah, let’s go! I’m so nasty!” And I’d be nailing her and she’d be like, “Oh, you’re nailing me! cool!”

  79. 79
    Billy K says:

    Jen and ThymeZone are clearly working together now.

  80. 80
    ThymeZone says:

    But knitting’s more interesting than gender-guessing. Only two possibilities

    You got me there, I can’t top that one.

    Of course, after I conceded the point, above, you could have just said “thanks” and saved all this time.

    Which would have been likely had you been, you know, a guy.

  81. 81
    Liberal Masochist says:

    Jen and TZ need to get a room and sort this out.

    Studly Pantload – Nice Godfather reference. Kudos!

  82. 82
    TheFountainHead says:

    Oh fine, FountainHead, make me google the damn thing. I’m not about to do an images search though.

    You are making my day…

  83. 83
    Zifnab says:

    “I dated this girl for a while… she was really a… nasty freak. She just loved to… get down with… sex all the time. It was like… anytime of day… she was like, “Yeah, let’s go! I’m so nasty!” And I’d be nailing her and she’d be like, “Oh, you’re nailing me! cool!”

    I put on my robe and wizard’s hat.

  84. 84
    Liberal Masochist says:

    JAFRS – were they like bigs bags of sand?

  85. 85
    Liberal Masochist says:

    JAFRS – were they like big bags of sand?

  86. 86
    HyperIon says:

    Spoofing is a major force in blogging right now. It has changed the blog dynamic out there on political sites in the last two years.

    silly me. i did not know that.
    and neither did my persona.

  87. 87
    ThymeZone says:

    silly me. i did not know that.
    and neither did my persona.

    Well, we should do another recruitment to the list soon.

  88. 88
    Dug Jay says:

    Where’s TenguPhule what with all this X-rated posting going on in every other comment. He could save a lot of money by visiting here instead of his usual diet of porn sites.

  89. 89
    Jen says:

    Of course, after I conceded the point, above, you could have just said “thanks” and saved all this time.

    Which would have been likely had you been, you know, a guy.

    The point “Jen’s a girl — she never lets anything go” was made more than once. Your persona was just deaf to this particular wisdom.

  90. 90

    silly me. i did not know that.
    and neither did my persona.

    But the question to which inquiring minds want to know the answer is “Did the-man-or-woman-or-child-who-who-writes-HyperIon know that?”

  91. 91
    Studly Pantload says:

    Where’s TenguPhule what with all this X-rated posting going on in every other comment. He could save a lot of money by visiting here instead of his usual diet of porn sites.

    AND Jen would know what a Rabbit Pearl is in short order!

  92. 92

    TZ, Krista, Steak, et al — read your mail.

  93. 93
    Liberal Masochist says:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03.....re.html?hp

    If true, the origins of the spitzer inquiry are less ominous than we think. Banks are particularly weary of money transfers in and out of shell companies. Compliance with the new anti-money laundering laws really sniffs this stuff out.

  94. 94
    Liberal Masochist says:

    Not only are they weary, they are wary too! Arggh!!!

  95. 95
    Punchy says:

    Spoofing is a major force in blogging right now.

    Pop, meet monitor

  96. 96

    Yeah. Working where I do, I get used to dealing with the kind of surveillance of financial transactions which appears to have caught Spitzer. Given the description of his behavior, I am not in the least surprised by it having triggered alarms.

  97. 97
    rawshark says:

    I’m not raw nor am I a shark.

    Since we’re sharing.

  98. 98
    Dug Jay says:

    New York – At a hastily scheduled morning press conference at the headquarters of New York’s exclusive Emperors Club prostitution ring, high priced call girl “Kristen” announced that she would temporarily step aside in the wake of charges that she had engaged in sex with New York Governor Eliot Spitzer.

    “I made a serious mistake and betrayed the trust of my co-workers, my many clients, and my pimps,” she said in a quiet voice cracking with emotion. “I will be taking a leave of absence to earn their forgiveness, and redeem myself in the eyes of the entire expensive whore community.”

    The rest of it is here.

  99. 99
    ThymeZone says:

    The point “Jen’s a girl—she never lets anything go” was made more than once. Your persona was just deaf to this particular wisdom.

    Point taken :-|

  100. 100
    Studly Pantload says:

    I’m not raw nor am I a shark.

    You’re cooked?

  101. 101
  102. 102
    rawshark says:

    Spoofing is a major force in blogging right now.

    just as lying is a major force in right wing radio.

  103. 103
    myiq2xu says:

    He was obviously paying too much. What can you possibly do for $5,000 an hour? Surgery. Life-saving surgery performed on me is worth $5,000 an hour.

    Perhaps he was gonna die if he didn’t “get some” and needed an emergency pipe cleaning.

  104. 104
    ThymeZone says:

    TZ, Krista, Steak, et al—read your mail.

    Dang, I never get timely delivery from that list.

    Can you send me a copy of whatever is up?

    Also — is al-read an Arabic code word for some terrorist thing?

  105. 105
    ThymeZone says:

    just as lying is a major force in right wing radio.

    Yes, sort of, but lying is for evil purposes, whereas spoofing is for good.

    Remember, when the line between spoof and wingnuttia is blurred, the terrorists lose and Jesus wins!

  106. 106
    Jen says:

    No one’s said anything about Geraldine Ferraro yet. Weird.

  107. 107
    Laertes says:

    Yeah, that’s strange. Usually when the conversation turns to lingerie models working as high-priced call girls, the first thing I think of is Geraldine Ferraro.

  108. 108
    chopper says:

    No one’s said anything about Geraldine Ferraro yet. Weird.

    nobody’s said anything about ferraro in almost 24 years, why start now?

  109. 109
    Studly Pantload says:

    No one’s said anything about Geraldine Ferraro yet. Weird.

    Huh? The chick whose big claim to fame is playing second banana to Walter Farking Mondale? Who do ya figure is paying attention to the likes of her? I mean, she could probably do an imitation of Obama with shoe polish on her face and still be hard pressed to find anyone to give a rat’s fuck beyond, “Oh, is she still alive?”

  110. 110
    Jen says:

    Oh fine, a blog that can go on for thirty comments about Trader Joe’s can’t find anything to say about this kind of stuff, whatevs, guys.

  111. 111
    Conservatively Liberal says:

    I see that Redstate members have the answer for keeping their kids from turning into teh gey:

    That’s how I avoided being gay. by shooflyguy68

    My dad promised me a car if I could avoid the whole sex with men thing. :-)

    A response:

    Same Deal by lapert

    I’m expecting to make the same deal with my daughter when she is old enough…

    So that is the trick to stopping teh gey? A car? Brilliant!

    These troglodytes and their primitive minds are perfect examples of evolution, or at least the failure to evolve when everyone else has.

  112. 112
    Studly Pantload says:

    Oh fine, a blog that can go on for thirty comments about Trader Joe’s can’t find anything to say about this kind of stuff, whatevs, guys.

    You must have missed the post about vacuum cleaners. I’m sure that easily beat 30 comments.

  113. 113
    Cain says:

    I put on my robe and wizard’s hat.

    You bastard!!

    cain

  114. 114
    myiq2xu says:

    My dad promised me a car if I could avoid the whole sex with men thing.

    I can just picture it. Some guy in SF is bent over and receiving rectal-rooter, when he slaps his forehead and says “I could have had a V-8!”

  115. 115
    D-Chance. says:

    Fallon is out. That puts George the Lesser one step closer to his war with Iran. By 01/20/09, the next administration will be neck-deep in THREE freaking wars… and in a deep recession, and a foreclosure epidemic, and $200+ per barrel oil, and $5+ per gallon gas, and a worthless dollar, and… yeah. Wonderful job, George.

  116. 116
    tBone says:

    Oh fine, a blog that can go on for thirty comments about Trader Joe’s can’t find anything to say about this kind of stuff, whatevs, guys.

    It’s sexist to criticize a woman when she makes disgusting racist remarks.

  117. 117
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    I just think that we should nominate whichever candidate knows all the words to “I am Woman, Hear Me Roar.”

  118. 118
    ThymeZone says:

    about Trader Joe’s can’t find anything to say about this kind of stuff, whatevs, guys.

    Well, guys know that the way to get people to talk about something like is to …. talk about it. But, hey, we’re just stupid guys, our brains are atrophied from that firehouse of testosterone that is running in our veins.

    But anyway, let me see … Ferraro disses the voters. She is a Hillarite, right? She said, just a couple days ago, that Obama is “lucky to be where he is because …” you know, he’s a Negro.

    Ferraro is a woman. Hillary is a woman. These two have no regard for anything, it seems, but their desired outcome, voters be damned.

    What am I missing … is there a pattern here? Help me out.

    Hmm. What could it be? What? Could? It? Be?

    (frowns, rubs head ….. )

  119. 119
    Zifnab says:

    I just think that we should nominate whichever candidate knows all the words to “I am Woman, Hear Me Roar.”

    I was going to suggest a sexy dance-off.

  120. 120
    Jake says:

    Breaking

    (and OT): Admiral Fallon has left the CENTCOM.

    I don’t blame him but, damn.

  121. 121
    Jake says:

    Oops, D-Chance beat me to it.

    Gates announced that Fallon’s top deputy, Army Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey, will take over temporarily when Fallon leaves. A permanent successor, requiring nomination by the president and confirmation by the Senate, might not be designated in the near term.

  122. 122
    Justin says:

    For $5,500 an hour, the madam better meet me on the way in and tell me “If you accidentally kill her, call this number. We’ll take care of it.”

    That and an eight year old Indian towel boy to mop my brow and keep my balls from slapping her on the ass if necessary.

  123. 123
    Billy K says:

    You stay classy, Justin.

  124. 124
    Justin says:

    Was the ‘towel boy’ too much?

  125. 125
    myiq2xu says:

    Somebody feels my pain:

    To be a Clinton blogger in the progressive blogosphere is to be hated, shunned, passed without notice in the street. We sit home on Friday nights, cursing at Chris Matthews and being censored by Al Giordano for commenting too often in a field of swaying Obama supplication. We’re not welcome at all the best dKos parties – if we show up, we’re cursed with the universal epithet of those who challenge the Obama hegemony: “troll,” they call us. Sometimes “f’ing troll.” We’re Rovian in our embrace of the monster, closet Bush backers and much worse – Lieberman types!

    The few. The proud. The unhinged.

  126. 126

    That Justin. Pure class. Just pure class.

  127. 127
    RodeoBob says:

    Look, it’s really easy to see why, if you were a highly prominent public official with a wife & kids, you’d shell out $5k for a prostitute.

    At $5k, the prostitute has no communicable diseases, will not expect you to buy her presents, will not want you to buy dinner, take her to a show, or even be seen in public with her. She will not get pregnant, blackmail you, or give your name up. (hopefully!) She will not talk about anything you don’t want to talk about, or even talk at all if that’s what you want. She will never ask you to leave your wife, she will never call your office or your home or your cell phone. She will never show up at your place or work or follow you around town to “run into you” at some random location. If she’s a pro, not only will she not name names, but she will also never discuss specific acts or relate details of conversations to anyone, ever!

    If you’re a highly prominent public official, high-priced prostitute is a better choice than secretive affair any day! Unless, you know, you’re mayor of New York, in which case publicly-funded security details for secret rondevoius is less offensive & illegal than paying for play with your own money.

  128. 128
    Nikki says:

    Actually, RodeoBob, I don’t agree. Affairs are usually love matches or tend to become one. For the price he was paying, he could’ve kept a mistress who recognized that it was a business arrangement. He could’ve kept an apartment for her, paid her, and had access to her at all times with the same no pregnancy, no STDs, model looks, ability to carry a conversation, etc. And, it wouldn’t have been illegal. There are still women out there who can tell the difference between a business arrangement and a love affair.

  129. 129
    rawshark says:

    You want an 8 year indian boy to do what to your balls Justin? Something? Anything? Why?

  130. 130
    ThymeZone says:

    Was the ‘towel boy’ too much?

    Hell no. At those prices, you should get two towel boys and a rickshaw ride home.

  131. 131
    mark says:

    China, host of the summer Olympics, is an authoritarian nation that denies its people basic human rights and freedoms, harasses journalists and foreign aid workers and tortures prisoners, the United States charged Tuesday.

    We torture for much better reasons.

  132. 132
    Brachiator says:

    Actually, RodeoBob, I don’t agree. Affairs are usually love matches or tend to become one. For the price he was paying, he could’ve kept a mistress who recognized that it was a business arrangement. He could’ve kept an apartment for her, paid her, and had access to her at all times with the same no pregnancy, no STDs, model looks, ability to carry a conversation, etc. And, it wouldn’t have been illegal.

    I have to agree with RodeoBob here. Read any memoir by a madam, from the Mayflower Madam to Heidi Fleiss to Babydoll Gibson. An encounter with an escort is not an affair of the heart. Discretion is everything.

    Mistresses get demanding. And they get older. And when they decide to get even, all hell can break loose (Sex, lies and DVDs shake culture ministry in Greece):

    The juiciest sex scandal in modern Greek memory began when an archaeologist allegedly decided to get revenge on her married boss after he refused to give her a full-time job at the ministry.

    Evi Tzekou, 35, is in custody on charges of attempted blackmail after apparently smuggling a camera into the bedroom of Christos Zachopoulos, her lover, and filming more than 100 hours of extramarital sex.

    Mr Zachopoulos, the chief of staff at the Culture Ministry, jumped from a fourth-floor flat in central Athens hours after losing his job by prime ministerial order. He remains in a critical but stable condition, unable to talk to investigators.

    As to this interesting statement:

    There are still women out there who can tell the difference between a business arrangement and a love affair.

    This is exactly why men (and not a few women) go for escorts. They are not looking for a secondary spouse. They are just looking for someone with professional skills to help them get off.

  133. 133
    Studly Pantload says:

    Was the ‘towel boy’ too much?

    Just had to go pee in the pristine pool that is this open thread, dincha?

  134. 134
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    True connoisseurs of low buck dalliance always choose a Wax Job .

  135. 135
    4tehlulz says:

    The GOS has Obama’s response to Hillary’s “disagreement” with Ferraro’s comments:

    With Senator Clinton’s refusal to denounce or reject Ms. Ferraro, she has once again proven that her campaign gets to live by its own rules and its own double standard, and will only decry offensive comments when it’s politically advantageous to Senator Clinton.

    I have to reconsider my support of the MUP; he is clearly showing weakness by letting Clinton choose to denounce or reject Ferraro’s statement, not forcefully asking for both denouncement AND rejection.

  136. 136
    Justin says:

    Just had to go pee in the pristine pool that is this open thread, dincha?

    My apologies for turning the Champagne Room into a common bawdy house.

    You want an 8 year indian boy to do what to your balls Justin? Something? Anything? Why?

    As many powerful New Yorkers have made plain, one doesn’t merely engage in intercourse–leave that to the proles. Instead, one constructs a sexual infrastructure around oneself–drivers, police protection, disaster management facilities…

    Since I’m not a powerful New Yorker, my needs are comparatively fewer: merely a street urchin to take of sundry momentary needs. Besides, they’re four quid for a dozen down on the docks. The sheets cost more.

  137. 137
    tBone says:

    If you’re a highly prominent public official, high-priced prostitute is a better choice than secretive affair any day!

    Is it too much to ask that our politicans demonstrate more self-control than a methed-up chimp with a copy of Treehouse Forum?

  138. 138
    w vincentz says:

    The price (5K) might seem a bit steep, but the questions that need to be asked is why did Kristen have to take a train rather than fly to DC? What was she bringing with her for her “dangerous” sexual encounter that would not have gotten through airport security?

  139. 139
    Laertes says:

    What do you want to bet the train is faster, once you account for all the time-wasting bullshit involved in air travel these days.

  140. 140
    Dennis - SGMM says:

    I have to reconsider my support of the MUP; he is clearly showing weakness by letting Clinton choose to denounce or reject Ferraro’s statement, not forcefully asking for both denouncement AND rejection.

    Ximinez: So you think you are strong because you can survive the soft cushions. Well, we shall see. Biggles! Put her in the Comfy Chair!

    [They roughly push her into the Comfy Chair]

    Ximinez [with a cruel leer]: Now — you will stay in the Comfy Chair until lunch time, with only a cup of coffee at eleven. [aside, to Biggles] Is that really all it is?
    Biggles: Yes, lord.
    Ximinez: I see. I suppose we make it worse by shouting a lot, do we? Confess, woman. Confess! Confess! Confess! Confess!

  141. 141
    myiq2xu says:

    This is just rude:

    To answer a question he had, the Rude Pundit called a prostitute friend. Is there a qualitative difference between a three-diamond whore, who, at the Emperor Club, went for $1000 an hour, and a seven-diamond whore, who goes for $5500 an hour? Does a seven-diamonder have, like, a hydraulic pussy that’ll squeeze your cock to the point where you’ll experience pleasure you’ve never had before? The hooker equivalent of space flight? Her answer was, “The same reason people buy ugly paintings by famous artists or stay in penthouse hotel rooms for a night. Because they can. Status, you know.”

    And she assured me that, for only a couple hundred bucks, she could make the Rude Pundit experience weightlessness. Time will tell.

    Now that’s more my price range.

  142. 142
    myiq2xu says:

    ABC says Spitzer(swallows) paid out $40k to QAT which is what triggered the suspicious activty reports (SAR’s) to the IRS and what exposes his ass to prison time.

    At least in prison, the sex will be free.

  143. 143
    Justin says:

    Heh… Ferraro just gave an interview in which she claimed that the Obama camp is attacking her “because I’m white.”

  144. 144
    Laertes says:

    That’s pretty fucked up if someone can go to prison over something like that.

    I’d really like to enjoy seeing a Clinton crony take a fall, and it’s especially sweet to see a prosecutor who used to bust call girl operations get snared in this way.

    But if he ends up going to jail over it, that injustice will poison all the glee I’d otherwise be feeling.

    I take my schadenfreude neat, thanks.

  145. 145
    myiq2xu says:

    Heh… Ferraro just gave an interview in which she claimed that the Obama camp is attacking her “because I’m white.”

    What? Are they all out of misogyny?

  146. 146
    tBone says:

    Heh… Ferraro just gave an interview in which she claimed that the Obama camp is attacking her “because I’m white.”

    The full quote:

    Any time anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says let’s address reality and the problems we’re facing in this world, you’re accused of being racist, so you have to shut up. Racism works in two different directions. I really think they’re attacking me because I’m white. How’s that?

    Double-u Tee Eff?? Someone take the shovel away from the crazy old bat before she ends up in China.

  147. 147
    chopper says:

    Heh… Ferraro just gave an interview in which she claimed that the Obama camp is attacking her “because I’m white.”

    man, clinton’s campaign really got unhinged after sinbad turned on them. when the history books are written, the fall of hillary clinton will be due to his influence.

    jesus tit-fucking christ, this is for real? yeah, ol’ lucky barack obama, born into blackness. cause you know national politics is totally a black dude’s game. i mean, the senate is chock-full of blacks. the congressional black caucus totally runs washington, you know.

    and pointing out how incredibly fucking idiotic that is is attacking ferraro for being white. damn.

  148. 148
    Justin says:

    “Racism works in two different directions. I really think they’re attacking me because I’m white. How’s that?”

    There’s Ms. Ferraro herself, doing her part to bring in the White Nationalist vote for Hillary.

  149. 149
    Pelikan says:

    I like to imagine myself walking into this thread, blinking, and then walking out in a hurry.

  150. 150
    ThymeZone says:

    I think Keith Olberman’s show nails it:

    It’s the Pennsylvania strategy. They suggest a racial component (Obama is where he is because he is black) and dare Obama to say something about it.

    No matter what happens, whether Obama goes after it or not, the language wins in central PA because it’s just like Alabama. White Alabama, that is.

    That’s Keith’s suggestion, not mine. And I totally agree with it. The Clintons have figured out how to make a racist appeal in PA and keep their hands clean.

    Without doubt, the most cynical thing I have ever seen in politics. This is worse than McCain’s Black Baby, and in my view, it disaulifies Clinton from office. Period.

  151. 151
    myiq2xu says:

    I can see Hillary screaming at the television while Ferraro’s being interviewed:

    “Bitch! STFU! If you say another fucking word I’m gonna kick your wrinkled skank ass!”

    Really, I can see her. I can hear her too. Bill’s hiding in the bathroom.

  152. 152
    ThymeZone says:

    Just to complete the picture here, mind you, the “Obama is where he is because he is black” remark is a couple days old, and even though I posted it … yesterday? …. has it received mention from a front page post here?

    I see All Spitzer All the Time, and Let’s Give Clinton a Break …. but not a word about this deliberate racial bullshit strategy to appeal to the hillbillies and city goats who make up central Pennsylvania ….

    Did I miss something? I don’t think so. Apparently we think being “nice” to the piece of dirt that is Hillary Clinton is more important than talking about the jaw-dropping racist crap coming from Geraldine Ferraro.

  153. 153
    ThymeZone says:

    I can see Hillary screaming at the television while Ferraro’s being interviewed:

    Um, no, actually, according to MSNBC, the Clinton campaign is totally defending Ferraro’s statements.

    Did you think this was an accident or something?

  154. 154
    myiq2xu says:

    Without doubt, the most cynical thing I have ever seen in politics.

    Really?

    Obama was riffing those “hoodwinked” and “bamboozled” lines in Mississippi that he used before. He was speaking to mostly black audiences.

    He got them from Denzel Washington’s movie portrayal of Malcolm X. Malcolm X was a follower of Elijah Muhammed, just like Louis Farrakhan.

    I call that cynical dogwhistling.

    With a wink, wink – nudge, nudge.

  155. 155
    rawshark says:

    So if a black man says hoodwinked he’s a follower of Farrakhan? And this is because Malcolm X used the word?

  156. 156
    ThymeZone says:

    Yeah, you’re an ass, myiq. You have descended into bullshit farce at this point, you aren’t even addressing the issue at hand.

  157. 157
    chopper says:

    And this is because Malcolm X used the word?

    no, denzel washington used the word in a movie.

    my god, that must be it. it explains everything! this is all denzel washington’s fault. he and sinbad need to take responsibility for the damage they’re doing to the democratic party.

  158. 158
    chopper says:

    BTW, isn’t obama half-black? so what, he only got halfway where he is today from that, right?

    how did he get the rest of the way?

  159. 159
    chopper says:

    and also, from the GOS..

    April 15, 1988, Washington Post:

    And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his “radical” views, “if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race.”

    she’s a charmer.

  160. 160
    ThymeZone says:

    BTW, isn’t obama half-black? so what, he only got halfway where he is today from that, right?

    how did he get the rest of the way?

    Rezko money. Must have been the Rezko money. So, it’s the blacks and the Rezkos and the insider help that got him where he is today. Just another affirmative action guy who climbed up the ladder while stepping on the fingers of better qualified white folks.

    Now he’s attacking Ferraro because she is white.

    Who said that? She did.

  161. 161
    rawshark says:

    “if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race.”

    She’s just saying what people want to hear someone say. She’ll be rewarded for the hit.

    I’m not kidding. Things are said when only white people are in ear shot, even today.

  162. 162
    myiq2xu says:

    When I first heard Russert’s debate question about Farrakhan I thought it was ridiculous and unfair.

    But then when Obama started reusing the “hoodwinked” and “bamboozled” lines from the Malcolm X movie, it clicked.

    He’s been accused of plagiarism for using those lines. Now he’s using them again. In front of predominantly black audiences.

    The movie was a portrayal of a member of the Nation of Islam. Farrakhan’s group. Most young people have no memory of Malcom X, they are only familiar with the movie.

    He’s dogwhistling.

    BTW – Obama is the product of a white mother from Kansas and a African father. His step-father was Indonesian, he was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. He now lives in Chicago.

    The clip of him speaking in Mississippi shows him speaking with a southern drawl.

  163. 163
    myiq2xu says:

    BTW, isn’t obama half-black? so what, he only got halfway where he is today from that, right?

    how did he get the rest of the way?

    I remember a black comedian saying that the more successful Tiger Woods gets, the whiter he gets.

    First he was black, then “bi-racial,” then “part-black.”

    Then the comedian said if Woods gets accused a raping a white girl, he’ll be a “n-word” again.

  164. 164
    Liberal Masochist says:

    TZ – If this is a deliberate strategy, the fuse is too long until Pennsylvania. Six weeks??? People will stop talking about this in about 6 days. All it will do is get more blacks to the polls in the intervening primaries – speaking of which, the MUP is going to win Miss.

  165. 165
    AnneLaurie says:

    OT: Admiral “Not on my fucking watch” Fallon resigns from Centcom.

    In before Iran bombing speculation.

    Not actually OT, if you assume NSA’s “leak” about Client #9 was intended to distract our ever-distractable MSM. The top story on the evening news was Spitzer, followed by the Wall Street “recovery” (aka “The Fed buys Countrywide’s bad loans with OUR tax dollars”). “Reality-based General jumps ship in advance of Dubya’s newest global tantrum” only ranked third, after the first round of insomnia and bladder-leakage ads.

    I’m assuming that the “Ooo, juicy” leak is related to last week’s “surprise” NSA admission that maybe they kinda accidentally sorted just might have wire-tapped a few thousand domestic phone lines, just by mistake, because it’s so hard to tell a Democratic prosecutor named Spitzer from a potential al-Queda terr-rist. Whenever the thugs working for the Oval Office Occupants admit that something illegal “might” have happened, you can assume they’ve committed another huge honking illegality and are pre-empting even the mild squeaks that the MSM might muster.

  166. 166
    myiq2xu says:

    See, I was trying to explain to someone the ‘okey-doke.’ Y’all know the okey-doke? It’s when someone’s trying to bamboozle you, when they’re trying to hoodwink you. They are trying to hoodwink you.

    Okey-doke Y’all?

  167. 167
    tBone says:

    The movie was a portrayal of a member of the Nation of Islam. Farrakhan’s group. Most young people have no memory of Malcom X, they are only familiar with the movie.

    He’s dogwhistling.

    Shorter myiq2xu: Run, jackalope, run!

    I hope you’re getting paid for this shit. What do you charge, $5,000 an hour?

  168. 168
    myiq2xu says:

    I hope you’re getting paid for this shit. What do you charge, $5,000 an hour?

    Unlike you, I do it for love.

  169. 169
    Dug Jay says:

    Um, no, actually, according to MSNBC, the Clinton campaign is totally defending Ferraro’s statements.

    Complete and total bullshit. You really need to start getting your news from some other source than Olbie/MSNBC.

  170. 170
    ThymeZone says:

    Unlike you, I do it for love.

    So, for the love of — what, Clinton? — you sit here day in and day out and act like a complete asshole?

    Oh, the inanity.

  171. 171
    myiq2xu says:

    Oh, the inanity.

    With God as my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly.

  172. 172
    ThymeZone says:

    You really need to start getting your news from some other source than Olbie/MSNBC.

    Really. They said it twice in about 7 minutes:

    Clinton campaign defending Ferraro.

    Clinton campaign refusing to distance itself from Ferraro.

    Let’s see. MSNBC, or some spooftroll butthead named Dug Jay who posts on an obscure blog, mainly as an ankle biter.

    MSNBC, or ankle biter? MSNBC, or ankle biter?

    This is hard. I am going to need some time to make a choice here.

  173. 173
    Justin says:

    I’d happily let the ankle biter hold my balls out of the way while I fuck a $5,500 an hour whore.

    I’m just sayin’.

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    myiq2xu says:

    Here’s the relevent part of the movie that Obama is plagiarizing mimicking:

    I’m gonna tell you like it really is. Every election year these politicians are sent up here to pacify us! They’re sent here and setup here by the White Man!

    This is what they do!

    They send drugs in Harlem down here to pacify us!

    They send alcohol down here to pacify us!

    They send prostitution down here to pacify us!

    Why you can’t even get drugs in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    You can’t get prostitution in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    You can’t get gambling in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    Every time you break the seal on that liquor bottle, that’s a Government seal you’re breaking!

    Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had!

    Ya been took!

    Ya been hoodwinked!

    Bamboozled!

    Led astray!

    Run amok!

    Yeah, that’s not racist.

  175. 175
    myiq2xu says:

    I’d happily let the ankle biter hold my balls out of the way while I fuck a $5,500 an hour whore.

    Your balls get in the way while you’re fucking?

    Me ‘ats off to the Duke!

  176. 176
    Asti says:

    And you could’ve given that $25 to the MUP.

    Well, I did, at the request of the person who claimed it.

    Good choice to (little letters that signify both ThymeZone’s and my first name, in that order) ;)

  177. 177
    ihatespam says:

    So your mom thinks the lord is essentially good and that life-saving surgery is drastically overpriced. It makes sense to me.

  178. 178
    Asti says:

    Would whoever keeps pulling ThymeZone’s string please give him a rest. You’ll run down his batteries.

    Well, I keep hoping he’ll pull my string (and then he may creating such a fuss here for awhile), but, he apparently is looking at the one Jen is holding. :(

  179. 179
    Dug Jay says:

    Come on, ThymeZone. You have previously asserted on this blog that you didn’t drink…alcohol. Maybe. But I’m inclined to think that, if you’re not boozing, then you must be higher than a kite on some chemical compound given your irrationality and general overall level of discourse (I know you’re not good with fancy words…”discourse” means :to converse, to engage in an exchange of thoughts and ideas, etc.).

    Several media have reported that Hillary has stated that there was no place in her campaign for those kind of thoughts and that she disagreed with them.

    Personally, I think the words of Ferraro – in their full context – are not that inflammatory, and have been blown out of all proportion. The Obama campaign has treated this in the smae manner that one might have expected fron the Reverand Al Sharpton, about whom this current campaign is beginning to resemble.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Well, I keep hoping he’ll pull my string

    She’s holding a string? I thought she was flipping me the bird :)

  181. 181
    ThymeZone says:

    Several media have reported that Hillary has stated that there was no place in her campaign for those kind of thoughts and that she disagreed with them.

    Uh huh. Apparently her campaign people are saying otherwise, which is what MSNBC is reporting.

    Like I said, them, or you. Can you give me a few reasons why I’d pick you, over ….. anyone?

    Take your time, I know it’s a hard question.

    And hey, your “you must be on something” argument is really brilliant. Where did you get that, at your last Narconon meeting? Truly, truly original and brilliant.

  182. 182
    Asti says:

    Yep, pretty much. Finally learning, after all these years, Moonlight Serenade on the piano. For some reason the tune just eluded me for about fifty years. At first I didn’t really get how great a tune it was, and then I heard it played differently on the radio one day and was sort of blown away by it. I think Miller was just a young guy in his 20’s when he wrote it, which is also sort of astounding.

    Puttanesca is not my favorite dish, but I have made it many times. I don’t do it well for some reason, but I’ve had some in NYC Little Italy that was awesome. Maybe it was just the atmosphere.

    And, cars? Heh. Even people who know me don’t really know what a completely insane car nut I really am. I study cars through their entire lifecycle, from concept to design alternatives to prototypes to production to the street to the track and the shop. Been doing that since I was a kid.

    Now, why am I telling you all this? Because you and I both know that this stuff is about ten thousand times more interesting than knitting, don’t you agree?

    And that sort of describes a lot about you and me, don’t you think so?

    But please, keep up the witty repartee. It’s good practice for when you might need it.

    Gee, is this what it’s like TZ to have you share something with someone? You open up better to someone you say you have a hard time dealing with than someone you’ve spent thousands of hours talking to, ummm, yeah, I’d call that looking at her string.

  183. 183
    Justin says:

    Several media have reported that Hillary has stated that there was no place in her campaign for those kind of thoughts and that she disagreed with them.

    So you’re outright lying now?

    She did not say that such comments have no place in her campaign. She said that both campaigns have should repudiate such comments, because both have experienced them.

    In other words, “He did it first.”

    She then failed to specifically reject Ferraro’s comments. She didn’t specifically address Ferraro’s comments at all. She issued a general statement that dirty politics are ‘regrettable’.

  184. 184
    Dug Jay says:

    What on earth does a court reporter kmow about anything, nitwit?

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    tBone says:

    Yeah, that’s not racist.

    Ka-ching! Another $1,000 for myiq2. Does Mark Penn leave the money on the nightstand, or do you make him pay up front?

  186. 186
    Dug Jay says:

    And Justin, it appears you also have a little trouble understanding the meaning of “complex words.”

  187. 187
    myiq2xu says:

    She’s holding a string? I thought she was flipping me the bird

    If she wants you to pull her finger, she’s a he.

  188. 188
    Asti says:

    Come on, ThymeZone. You have previously asserted on this blog that you didn’t drink…alcohol.

    I’ve seen TZ drink ONE alcoholic drink, ever. He drinks a lot of coffee and tea, he drinks very little alcohol.

    Personally, I think the words of Ferraro – in their full context – are not that inflammatory, and have been blown out of all proportion. The Obama campaign has treated this in the smae manner that one might have expected fron the Reverand Al Sharpton, about whom this current campaign is beginning to resemble.

    It’s your personal preference to believe Ferraro’s words aren’t as inflammatory. If he doesn’t agree, that doesn’t mean he’s drinking or drugging or anything.

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    tBone says:

    Personally, I think the words of Ferraro – in their full context – are not that inflammatory, and have been blown out of all proportion.

    Please, explain to us the full context. We await with bated breath.

  190. 190
    Asti says:

    I’ve seen TZ drink ONE alcoholic drink, ever. He drinks a lot of coffee and tea, he drinks very little alcohol.

    Ooops, I lie, sorry… I’ve seen him drink TWO drinks (forgot about the Margarita).

  191. 191
    Asti says:

    If she wants you to pull her finger, she’s a he.

    Yeah, well, I liked it better that way.

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    Justin says:

    And Justin, it appears you also have a little trouble understanding the meaning of “complex words.”

    No, I’m good with complex words. What Hillary didn’t do is say “I reject Geraldine Ferraro’s assertion that Obama is lucky to be black, and the implication that his race is instrumental in where he got to be today. I also reject her claim that responding to that attack is reverse racism.”

    No, instead Hillary said that both campaigns have stooped to regrettable attacks (thus falsely implying that both are equally responsible for the current degraded tone of the contest), and both should avoid them in the future (falsely implying that both are equally planning on dirty politics).

    She didn’t even mention Ferraro’s name.

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    Dug Jay says:

    As noted in today’s WaPo site: “Some Obama supporters back him because they want to make history–and his race has a lot to do with their belief that he will. It is also the reason he has such strong support from African Americans, without which Clinton would be beating him.”

    Ferraro’s comments may have been poorly chosen, but that doesn’t make them incorrect.

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    Conservatively Liberal says:

    If some chick wants me to pull her string, I will pass. Her CP (cotton pony) is her business, not mine.

    ;)

    Ferraro says that Obama would not be where he was if he was white, and she said virtually the same thing about Jesse Jackson twenty years earlier. That is not accidental, that is on purpose. Once can be a possible mistake or poor choice of words, twice is deliberate. She is framing Obama as the ‘black candidate’, and this dogwhistle will work on the Archie Bunker types they want to appeal to.

    Hillary gets called a monster and they throw a hissy fit. They say Obama is where he is because he is black, and they think that saying this is perfectly all right. Yup, Clinton Rules once again.

    I like the attempt to tie Obama’s use of ‘hoodwinked’ and ‘bamboozled’ and the Malcom X movie. This is just another ‘He is black!!!!‘ reference they are trying to hang around his neck.

    ZOMG! He is speaking in code to fellow blacks!!!!

    I have used those words, and I have never even seen the movie. So am I speaking in code to blacks and not even knowing it?

    You racist assholes keep trying, and I hope it backfires in your faces.

  195. 195
    tBone says:

    She didn’t even mention Ferraro’s name.

    It’s instructive to view the Clinton campaign’s actions in their full context.

  196. 196
    Asti says:

    Her CP (cotton pony) is her business

    You’re mind is not in the place mine is, that’s for sure. By the way, that was pretty sick.

  197. 197
    tBone says:

    Ferraro’s comments may have been poorly chosen, but that doesn’t make them incorrect.

    Dug Jay enjoys blowing goats and being a receiver in donkey shows.

    Now, my comments may have been poorly chosen, but that doesn’t make them incorrect.

  198. 198
    Asti says:

    Ferraro says that Obama would not be where he was if he was white

    Geez, no, that’s not inflammatory. Barack looks better in thie campaign than Hillary ever did (he’s calm, he’s collected and campaigning without negativity) and apparently, if he was white and held the same intelligence, he’d hold a job equivalent to being a clerk in a grocery store. How fucking RUDE!

  199. 199
    Dave_Violence says:

    Good for John Cole’s mom!

    Yeah, five grand an hour… Perhaps that’s what she cost, rather than what she got paid, as in “Bitch, give me my money…”

    Or whatever.

    Politicians need to keep their noses clean. What gets me is Spitzer’s astonishing arrogance. Yeah, he can be the meanest, bastard elected official there is, but why would he forget that he’s got enemies who are waiting for any transgression on his part… to pounce!

    Because of what he (allegedly, eh?) did, he gave his enemies (again, didn’t he remember the grade school days? Your enemies will gladly wait to serve the revenge dish cold) the perfect moment.

    Also, what he did (allegedly…) is illegal. It doesn’t matter if he was this or that or housed orphans and widows. He broke the law and for that he can be impeached and it’s all legal. Technicalities, big or small, are the law of the land and no lawyer worth his/her $100,000 bonus can argue otherwise. You break the law and you’re not in control. This is what happened to Bill Clinton, though he survived.
    Spitzer might not, though, as his problems may involve breaking tax laws (very bad).

    What a jerk Spitzer is. Sure, he’s not sending millions of Americans to their deaths daily like George Bush (which, surprisingly, isn’t illegal), he has admitted breaking the law on national television, it appears. Ooops.

  200. 200
    Dug Jay says:

    While the YouTube spot is pretty funny, I guess it does tend to reinforce the existence of the racist approaches that occasionally have appeared in both campaigns.

  201. 201
    Asti says:

    Ka-ching! Another $1,000 for myiq2. Does Mark Penn leave the money on the nightstand, or do you make him pay up front?

    Ooooooooooh! OUCH! Ba-da-bing!

  202. 202
    myiq2xu says:

    From MSNBC:

    Clinton said, “I do not agree with that,” and later added, “It’s regrettable that any of our supporters — on both sides, because we both have this experience — say things that kind of veer off into the personal.”

    “We ought to keep this on the issues. there are differences between us” on approaches to health care, energy, experience.

  203. 203
    Asti says:

    It was not a supporter who chose to put more faith in a Republican hellbent on going to war with Iran as a more qualified candidate for the job she’s also positioning for than a fellow Democrat.

    She does NOT play nice.

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    Urbaniak says:

    Best. Post. Ever.

  205. 205
    myiq2xu says:

    The Daily Show is hilarious tonight on the Spitzer(swallows) feeding frenzy:

    “Spitzer linked to a prostitution ring – through his penis.”

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    ThymeZone says:

    I guess it does tend to reinforce the existence of the racist approaches that occasionally have appeared in both campaigns.

    Yeah, when Obama talks about how Hillary only got where she is by being a white woman married to a president, he is doing the same thing the Clinton campaign is doing.

  207. 207
    Justin says:

    While the YouTube spot is pretty funny, I guess it does tend to reinforce the existence of the racist approaches that occasionally have appeared in both campaigns.

    That’s creepy… when you channeled Hillary just then, it was like it was really her!

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    Dug Jay says:

    I also see that there is more than a little misogyny present in some of the Obama supporters here. Someone with more time and patience can explain what that word means to TZ and Justin.

  209. 209
    Justin says:

    What does misogyny have to do with calling racism what it is?

    Seriously, you’re going to have to unpack that a bit for me. Because if you don’t, I’m left thinking that any criticism of Hillary at all is misogyny just because she’s a woman.

    I don’t recall mentioning her gender, or ascribing anything to her behavior on that basis. Please quote me if I’m wrong.

  210. 210
    myiq2xu says:

    That’s creepy… when you channeled Hillary just then, it was like it was really her!

    You could almost see the knee-high spike-studded leather boots, the neoprene bustier and the strap-on “appliance.”

  211. 211
    Dug Jay says:

    Justin: I don’t recall mentioning her gender, or ascribing anything to her behavior on that basis. Please quote me if I’m wrong.

  212. 212
    Dug Jay says:

    AND: That’s creepy… when you channeled Hillary just then, it was like it was really her!

  213. 213
    Brachiator says:

    Dug Jay Says:

    As noted in today’s WaPo site: “Some Obama Clinton supporters back him her because they want to make history—and her gender his race has a lot to do with their belief that she he will. It is also the reason she he has such strong support from older white women African Americans, without which the woefully underqualified Clinton would have long dropped out of the presidential race would be beating him.”

    Fixed.

  214. 214
    myiq2xu says:

    I would like to be the first to point out that Hillary, despite finishing second in the Democratic Primary in a Republican state, has more votes than McCain.

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    Asti says:

    Seriously, you’re going to have to unpack that a bit for me. Because if you don’t, I’m left thinking that any criticism of Hillary at all is misogyny just because she’s a woman.

    Justin, you are left thinking it because that’s all there is. Any attack on Hillary is racist.

    I am supporting Barack Obama, yet, I do have something that I feel makes me a bit uncomfortable about him, his Christian faith, I don’t believe in Christianity at all, so, for me to support him takes a bit of wrangling that. I’m glad that since he considers himself a Christian, he considers himself to be one of those “love one another” Christians and not the condemning hypocritical kind that hangs out in evangelical circles. See? I can find something negative about the person I am supporting, and not resorting to race at all. It would be nice if Hillary’s supporters (the real ones) would take some pointers from this. Of course, the supporters here are largely spoofers who plan to pull the lever for Barack one day.

  216. 216
    Justin says:

    Dug Jay Says:

    AND: That’s creepy… when you channeled Hillary just then, it was like it was really her!

    Not seeing any misogyny here. Hillary generally condemned in both campaigns what she specifically didn’t condemn in her own. You come along and say:

    I guess it does tend to reinforce the existence of the racist approaches that occasionally have appeared in both campaigns.

    You’re channeling Hillary’s response exactly: falsely implying that both campaigns are equally guilty in general of what the Clinton campaign is specifically guilt of.

    How is that misogynistic?

    [See? I can has complex words!]

  217. 217
    Asti says:

    Justin, you are left thinking it because that’s all there is. Any attack on Hillary is racist.

    Preview is my friend, and we’re not on speaking terms these day, apparently.

    I meant to say Justin, you are left thinking it because that’s all there is. Any attack on Hillary is racist sexist.

  218. 218
    Asti says:

    I would like to be the first to point out that Hillary, despite finishing second in the Democratic Primary in a Republican state, has more votes than McCain.

    What do you expect when Rush Limbaugh is out there telling his listeners to vote for Hillary.

  219. 219
    ThymeZone says:

    What do you expect when Rush Limbaugh is out there telling his listeners to vote for Hillary.

    Oh heck, that’s nothing. Hillary is out there telling her audience to vote for McCain.

  220. 220
    Brachiator says:

    Asti Says:

    I meant to say Justin, you are left thinking it because that’s all there is. Any attack on Hillary is sexist.

    Any attack? Any attack at all? By anyone? Sexist?

    Or is it just attacks by Justin?

    Even so.

  221. 221
    ThymeZone says:

    I don’t think Asti meant that, Brach. I think she was mocking the idea that any attack on HRC is sexist.

  222. 222
    myiq2xu says:

    Any attack? Any attack at all? By anyone? Sexist?

    Remember when Edwards was accused of racism by Obama supporters for claiming he was the most electable Democrat?

  223. 223
    Asti says:

    Oh heck, that’s nothing. Hillary is out there telling her audience to vote for McCain.

    This is the most confusing campaign I think I’ve ever witnessed. It’s all gaming the system, thank goodness there’s ONE sane and calm candidate out there (of coures, I mean Barack, just so you spoofers don’t think I left the door open for you to insert your lunacy).

  224. 224
    Asti says:

    Any attack? Any attack at all? By anyone? Sexist?

    yeah, that one!

  225. 225
    rawshark says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    When I first heard Russert’s debate question about Farrakhan I thought it was ridiculous and unfair.

    But then when Obama started reusing the “hoodwinked” and “bamboozled” lines from the Malcolm X movie, it clicked.

    He’s been accused of plagiarism for using those lines. Now he’s using them again. In front of predominantly black audiences.

    The movie was a portrayal of a member of the Nation of Islam. Farrakhan’s group. Most young people have no memory of Malcom X, they are only familiar with the movie.

    He’s dogwhistling.

    Dude, that is so weak. You should have stuck with your first reaction. It is ridiculous and you’re wanting it to mean more doesn’t change it. Am I plagiarizing Samuel L Jackson whenever I say ‘motherfucker’? Only if I say it real intense like? Do I not get to be president now?

    If you didn’t have your head up Clinton’s ass you would see how stupid this is and would be laughing with us at the clown who actually brought that here, which sadly, in this case is you. Plagiarizing a movie? Using it to imply a connection to the Nation Of Islam?

    WEEEEEEEEEEEEAK!!!!! You’re almost making think of voting for McSame. Neither McSame nor Clintagain will last two terms anyway.

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    ThymeZone says:

    This is the most confusing campaign I think I’ve ever witnessed.

    Despite that, you understand it perfectly. That’s because you are being reasonable and not letting yourself get swept away with the baloney. If everyone here were as reasonable as you are in the middle of this, we might not all agree but at least we’d have some more illumination.

  227. 227
    Asti says:

    Remember when Edwards was accused of racism by Obama supporters for claiming he was the most electable Democrat?

    You better not be trying to blame that on Obama, what his supporters do he has no control over. MOreover, no, I don’t remember… and, I have reason to believe that a large percentage of people who would do such a thing are more inclined to hang out in the Hillary camp.

    The fact that he isn’t attacking Hillary on any grounds of sexism would be unpalatable for the kind who you are describing.

  228. 228
    myiq2xu says:

    I don’t think Asti meant that, Brach. I think she was mocking the idea that any attack on HRC is sexist.

    No every attack on Hillary is sexist. In fact, very few of the attacks I’ve seen are purely sexist.

    Some attacks have a valid basis but take the form of a sexist attack, like referring to her time as First Lady as a “hostess” or asking how “fucking the President” (or tasting another woman’s lipstick on his dick) qualifies her to be President.

  229. 229
    ThymeZone says:

    Moreover, no, I don’t remember

    Moreover. I just love that.

  230. 230
    ThymeZone says:

    but take the form of a sexist attack, like referring to her time as First Lady as a “hostess” or asking how “fucking the President” (or tasting another woman’s lipstick on his dick) qualifies her to be President.

    myiq, we already had that discussion. Did you not catch on to the fact that HRC brought that criticism upon herself by trying to puff up her experience as First Lady into CIC material? Hello?

  231. 231
    rawshark says:

    ThymeZone Says:

    but take the form of a sexist attack, like referring to her time as First Lady as a “hostess” or asking how “fucking the President” (or tasting another woman’s lipstick on his dick) qualifies her to be President.

    myiq, we already had that discussion. Did you not catch on to the fact that HRC brought that criticism upon herself by trying to puff up her experience as First Lady into CIC material? Hello?

    Did you just call her Lady? Mysogynist! Hate Crime! Take your hate crime somewhere else pal.

  232. 232
    myiq2xu says:

    Dude, that is so weak.

    Really? Then please explain why he keeps using language taken from a racist speech in a movie about Malcolm X when speaking to predominately black audiences?

    It’s not about plagiarism, but good try trying to conflate the issue. He is using the words of a racist.

    If Hillary kept talking to white, southern audiences about “states rights” no one would think she was discussing a arcane legal theory.

  233. 233

    I hope that Clinton rejects and repudiates (that is the magic formula, right?) Ferraro’s loathsome remarks. I understand that Ferraro may have meant to say “women have it worse than any man”, which is not true — there’s no way to measure the relative burdens different people bear — but is at least understandable. However, that is not what she said, and what she said was racist.

  234. 234

    It’s all gaming the system, thank goodness there’s ONE sane and calm candidate out there

    So why aren’t you voting for Nader, then?

  235. 235
    ThymeZone says:

    If Hillary kept talking to white, southern audiences about “states rights” no one would think she was discussing a arcane legal theory.

    Well, she was a Goldwater Girl.

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    Asti says:

    like referring to her time as First Lady as a “hostess”

    NoIQ, I linked to a WIKI article that quoted the official duties of the First Lady, she is the official hostess of the White House. As I said when I posted that link, if you had a problem with it, why did you never bring it up until now?

    From Wiki:

    First Lady of the United States is the unofficial title of the hostess of the White House.

  237. 237
    rawshark says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    BTW – Obama is the product of a white mother from Kansas and a African father. His step-father was Indonesian, he was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. He now lives in Chicago.

    The clip of him speaking in Mississippi shows him speaking with a southern drawl.

    That’s not a southern drawl that’s just how black folk say ‘shit’. ‘Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeee-it, y’all done been hoodwinked yo.’
    Damn now I’ve gone and plagiarized Denzel, Isiah Whitlock and every rapper on the east coast.

  238. 238
    myiq2xu says:

    myiq, we already had that discussion. Did you not catch on to the fact that HRC brought that criticism upon herself by trying to puff up her experience as First Lady into CIC material? Hello?

    Naughty naughty Mater Yoda, you cut out the first part of my sentence:

    Some attacks have a valid basis but take the form of a sexist attack,

    I said there was a valid basis, but the attack took the form of a sexist attack.

    The paduan wins

  239. 239
    ThymeZone says:

    So why aren’t you voting for Nader, then?

    Nader is your idea of calm and sane?

    I think Asti is smarter than that, demi moore.

  240. 240
    Asti says:

    So why aren’t you voting for Nader, then?

    You think Nader isn’t gaming the system? You CAN’T be serious. This is the worst time to have a third party candidate (ummm, and wasn’t it reported in past elections he was using Republican support?) trying to take votes (which would only benefit Republicans btw) – no thanks.

  241. 241
    myiq2xu says:

    “First Lady of the United States is the unofficial title of the hostess of the White House.

    Okay, how about the “fucking the President” or “tasting another woman’s lipstick on his dick” part?

    The trolls around here are getting lame.

  242. 242
    ThymeZone says:

    Let’s have a little realtime reality? Here’s the Obama campaign message I just got, Asti probably got it too:

    It’s tough to think of two states more different than Wyoming and Mississippi.

    But we won Wyoming on Saturday, and we just learned that we won Mississippi by a large margin tonight.

    Between those two states, we picked up enough delegates to erase the gains by Senator Clinton last Tuesday and add to our substantial lead in earned delegates. And in doing so we showed the strength and breadth of this movement.

    But just turn on the news and you’ll see that Senator Clinton continues to run an expensive, negative campaign against us. Each day her campaign launches a new set of desperate attacks.

    They’re not just attacking me; they’re attacking you.

    Over the weekend, an aide to Senator Clinton attempted to diminish the overwhelming number of contests we’ve won by referring to places we’ve prevailed as “boutique” states and our supporters as the “latte-sipping crowd.”

    I’m not sure how those terms apply to Mississippi and Wyoming — or Virginia, Iowa, Louisiana, or Idaho for that matter.

    I know that our victories in all of these states demonstrate a rejection of this kind of petty, divisive campaigning.

    But the fact remains that Senator Clinton’s campaign will continue to attack us using the same old Washington playbook. And now that John McCain is the Republican nominee, we are forced to campaign on two fronts.

    Questions?

  243. 243
    ThymeZone says:

    Okay, how about the “fucking the President” or “tasting another woman’s lipstick on his dick” part?

    The trolls around here are getting lame.

    Just because the remarks are crude doesn’t mean they are wrong. We asked you, repeatedly: How does her First Lady experience qualify her for CIC?

    Did I miss the answer? Could you reprise it for me?

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    Asti says:

    Well, she was a Goldwater Girl.

    I think she always has been. Personally I think the only reason she’s not running as a Repub these days is because it would ruin her husband’s legacy. Seh’s sort of stuck with being a Dem whether she wants to be or not.

  245. 245
    Asti says:

    Let’s have a little realtime reality? Here’s the Obama campaign message I just got, Asti probably got it too

    yes, I did, I considered posting it, glad to see you did.

  246. 246
    Asti says:

    But the fact remains that Senator Clinton’s campaign will continue to attack us using the same old Washington playbook. And now that John McCain is the Republican nominee, we are forced to campaign on two fronts.

    And yet, he’s raising more money, earning more delegates and making it look easier than both of them put together. ;)

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    Gus says:

    Paul L you incredible idiot, Barney Frank is openly gay. Gerry Studds, well I’m really too young to remember him. McGreevey might be a closet Republican, though unlike Senator “I’m not gay” Craig, he at least came out of the closet eventually. Stick to the Duke lacrosse case.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Personally I think the only reason she’s not running as a Repub these days is because it would ruin her husband’s legacy

    I think there is a lot of truth to that. If she were on her own (no Bill), I think she might do that. I think if she could get past the primary season, she’d kill in the general, pulling in the women and the independents that follow her, to the GOP.

    What would be her Achilles Heel? Abortion? I don’t know.

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    rawshark says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Dude, that is so weak.

    Really? Then please explain why he keeps using language taken from a racist speech in a movie about Malcolm X when speaking to predominately black audiences?

    It’s not about plagiarism, but good try trying to conflate the issue. He is using the words of a racist.

    If Hillary kept talking to white, southern audiences about “states rights” no one would think she was discussing a arcane legal theory.

    I said plagiarism because you did. You want to walk it back fine but don’t act like I brought it up.

    I think he’s using the words from a famous movie in order to relate to folks who maybe, just maybe, I know I’m profiling here but I think it fits, people who saw that movie. You want to call it racism go for it. Its your opinion. If that’s the conclusion you draw fine. But my point and I think most people here have made this point too, my point is that you only see it as racism because you want to. You choose that perspective. (Same way Jesse Jackson can see racis under every stone).
    I don’t see it as the same as Reagan giving a states rights speech to white southern crowds because I don’t think Obama can be accused of speaking in codes. What’s the code? Why have a code? Is there a secret underground of black people dis-satisfied with the treatment by white people? No. Its public, no need of codes. You’re projecting.

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    Asti says:

    Moreover. I just love that.

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    ThymeZone says:

    And yet, he’s raising more money, earning more delegates and making it look easier than both of them put together

    Yes. What I heard on cablepunditblatherhour tonight was was that just about the only thing she still can “win” would be popular vote count. She can’t win the delegate race at the voting booth or caucus room. She can’t win the count of states. She might pull off a popular vote lead if she does well in PA.

    Some wag said … wait, it was Buchanan, not a wag, a political perennial talkalot … that if she gets the popular vote count the Supers could be persuaded to fall into her column.

    At which time, my digestion went to hell.

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    myiq2xu says:

    Here’s the Obama campaign message I just got, Asti probably got it too:

    Questions?

    Y’all are part of His campaign?

    Damn, I’m just a freelancer.

  253. 253
    Asti says:

    Hmmm, must remember certain characters are also considered to be opening HTML tags… oops!

    TZ: 43278

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    rawshark says:

    Questions?

    Yes. How do I get on the To: list?

    Personally I think the only reason she’s not running as a Repub these days is because it would ruin her husband’s legacy

    I figure its because she could never win as a republican. Could you imagine the party that tried to remove her husband from office nominating her to that office?

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    Asti says:

    Y’all are part of His campaign?

    I’m riding the MUP NoIQ, I’m feeding it green to keep it alive, and I get messages from the campaign as a result.

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    Asti says:

    I figure its because she could never win as a republican. Could you imagine the party that tried to remove her husband from office nominating her to that office?

    Well, what I mean, absent the dissent her hubby’s presidency created for the GOP, I think if she had her druthers, she’d be a Republican, by choice.

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    Asti says:

    Yes. How do I get on the To: list?

    Contribute and you get email. It’s that simple.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Y’all are part of His campaign?

    Damn, I’m just a freelancer.

    Yes, Asti and I are both Obama boosters, and there are several others here who are too (they can identify themselves as desired).

    We think his calm rational approach and lack of a stack of IOUs to the Washington power machine make him a good choice.

    I know she has her own reasons, but mine have a lot to do with just a personal liking of the guy. He talks like a real person to my ear, and I really like that.

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    ThymeZone says:

    TZ: 43278

    You sure have a way with zipcodes :)

    48463

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    myiq2xu says:

    I think he’s using the words from a famous movie in order to relate to folks who maybe, just maybe, I know I’m profiling here but I think it fits, people who saw that movie.

    Relate to people who saw that movie. Black people who saw that movie, since he keeps saying it to predominantly black audiences.

    If that’s the conclusion you draw fine. But my point and I think most people here have made this point too, my point is that you only see it as racism because you want to. You choose that perspective.

    Here’s the relevent part of the speech he’s riffing from:

    I’m gonna tell you like it really is. Every election year these politicians are sent up here to pacify us! They’re sent here and setup here by the White Man!

    This is what they do!

    They send drugs in Harlem down here to pacify us!

    They send alcohol down here to pacify us!

    They send prostitution down here to pacify us!

    Why you can’t even get drugs in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    You can’t get prostitution in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    You can’t get gambling in Harlem without the White Man’s permission!

    Every time you break the seal on that liquor bottle, that’s a Government seal you’re breaking!

    Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had!

    Ya been took!

    Ya been hoodwinked!

    Bamboozled!

    Led astray!

    Run amok!

    Malcolm X was a racist and a member of the Nation of Islam.

    From wiki:

    From his adoption of the Nation of Islam in 1952 until he left the organization in 1964, Malcolm X promoted the Nation’s teachings. He referred to whites as “devils” who had been created in a misguided breeding program by a black scientist, and predicted the inevitable (and imminent) return of blacks to their natural place at the top of the social order.

    Obama is using the words of a black racist to “relate to folk” who happen to be black.

    The words of a man who belonged to the same organization that Louis Farrakhan still belongs to.

    BTW – I only pointed out the plagiarism allegation because it raises the question as to why Obama keeps using those same words after being accused of plagiarism.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Contribute and you get email. It’s that simple.

    Exactly, and the great thing is, just $5 is enough if that is all you can do. The man set a one-month record on the strength of many thousands of small donations.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Next, myiq will lecture us on the reasons why no rational black person in the US would be wary of, or pissed of at, white people.

    Mr. Iq will begin his lecture with the statement “Hey, some of my best friends are Negroes.”

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    Brachiator says:

    I don’t think Asti meant that, Brach. I think she was mocking the idea that any attack on HRC is sexist.

    I honestly forgot to add “Did you skip the snark icon?” at the end of my post to Asti.

    I’m going to hire a copy editor.

    Some attacks have a valid basis but take the form of a sexist attack, like referring to her time as First Lady as a “hostess” or asking how “fucking the President” (or tasting another woman’s lipstick on his dick) qualifies her to be President.

    Actually, stuff like this is crude, but not sexist.

    BTW – Obama is the product of a white mother from Kansas and a African father. His step-father was Indonesian, he was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. He now lives in Chicago.

    Which means what, exactly?

    I was raised in Texas and moved to California. My younger sister was born in California, and moved to Texas. She has a drawl. I don’t. But I can do a West Texas, Oklahoma, or Georgia accent (and they are all different) at the drop of a hat. Go figure.

    The clip of him speaking in Mississippi shows him speaking with a southern drawl.

    There’s a clip of Senator Clinton speaking before a black audience and trying to channel her inner Oprah. It’s lame, but it just … ain’t no big thang.

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    Asti says:

    You sure have a way with zipcodes

    48463

    56838

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    Asti says:

    I was raised in Texas and moved to California. My younger sister was born in California, and moved to Texas. She has a drawl. I don’t. But I can do a West Texas, Oklahoma, or Georgia accent (and they are all different) at the drop of a hat. Go figure.

    Some people easily adapt their language to the local accent by pure accident. I happen to be one of those people. I went to South Carolina once for a couple of days, by the end of the weekend, I was noticing the change in my language.

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    ThymeZone says:

    56838

    I can think of 92688 reasons to agree on that one.

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    Conservatively Liberal says:

    My support went Gore, then Dodd and then Obama. At one time I said I could not vote for Obama, but after listening to him and reading up about his views I was sold. I still have some hesitation due to his experience and age, but he has an impressive past. Of all of the candidates we have had this year, he is clearly the best bar none. I am glad I took the time to read up on him, it was worth it.

    So I was not a MUP rider from day one, but I am on it now and I am riding this pony right through the finish line. If Obama wins the primary, I will finally be able to vote for someone and actually feel good about doing so. I don’t see eye to eye with him on some issues, but I am realistic enough to know that getting the ‘perfect’ candidate is never going to happen. He is more than good enough, and I hope he gets the chance that he (and we) deserve after living through the ‘dark ages’ the last seven years (more like the last 45 years actually).

    I may be an independent voter, but I was a Democratic party member all of my life until going independent. My preferences still lean Democratic, but at least I do not feel bound to support the party line when I disagree with it.

    Freedom baby! Ya gotta love it. I sure do.

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    ThymeZone says:

    I went to South Carolina once for a couple of days, by the end of the weekend, I was noticing the change in my language.

    Oh for sure. I can’t spend an hour in the South without sounding like John Hagee. Seriously! Okay, the voice, not the content.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Dug Jay enjoys blowing goats and being a receiver in donkey shows.

    Now, my comments may have been poorly chosen, but that doesn’t make them incorrect.

    Indeed. And in BJ, even the first is not necessarily so.

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    myiq2xu says:

    “Hey, some of my best friends are Negroes.”

    I am a Hillary supporter. I have no friends.

    BTW – “Negro” is politically incorrect. So is “colored.”

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    TenguPhule says:

    No matter what happens, whether Obama goes after it or not, the language wins in central PA because it’s just like Alabama. White Alabama, that is.

    And this is why I can’t wait for September, when all of us BJers can get back together and focus on the important thing.

    Turning Fuckstain McCain into the Right’s John Kerry.

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    Asti says:

    Of all of the candidates we have had this year, he is clearly the best bar none.

    Pssst! Lemme tell you a secret, come closer… ::whispers:: “NoIQ knows it too, he’s just afraid to admit it – don’t tell anyone!” ;)

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    eric jung says:

    I can’t believe how ubiquitous the lolcat phenomenon has become. People are saying “I can has ____” freakin’ everywhere. But damn, kitties are fuckin fuzzy.

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    ThymeZone says:

    BTW – “Negro” is politically incorrect. So is “colored.”

    No, the hell you say! Aren’t you just full of good information today?

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    Conservatively Liberal says:

    Wow, we better make a searchable database of all of the words, sentences and paragraphs written by Malcom X, Farrakhan and any other black person who scares white people. Then we will feed every word and phrase uttered by Obama and his campaign through it, find all of the ‘bad’ words, sentences and phrases, then we will have Obama go out and apologize for each and every match-up found.

    You stupid fucks want to drag race into this so badly that you conjure up any way you can to associate Obama with the ‘evil’ black guys who scare whites to vote white. Keep flogging that dead horse though, there might be a tiny bit of flesh that you have not stripped from the bones yet.

    Asshats.

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    myiq2xu says:

    No, the hell you say! Aren’t you just full of good information today?

    Things have changed since your youth. We have 50 states now.

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    Asti says:

    You stupid fucks want to drag race into this so badly that you conjure up any way you can to associate Obama with the ‘evil’ black guys who scare whites to vote white.

    Don’t be concerned by the spoof, he doesn’t mean a word of it, this is all just being done for shits and giggles.

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    ThymeZone says:

    So I was not a MUP rider from day one

    Me either. For a long time. He won me over.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Yes, CL, myiq knows that racism is just a divisive trick made up by black people to manipulate them and get them to vote for welfare and give away government-fried chicken.

    Those clever negroes, always looking for ways to fuck us over.

  280. 280
    Asti says:

    Things have changed since your youth. We have 50 states now.

    Was that supposed to be intelligent or funny? It missed the mark on both counts.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Okay, everyone to the day room. myiq is going to read to us about the Tar Baby and the briar patch.

    Uncle Remus, uncle Iq! Uncle Remus!

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    myiq2xu says:

    From C&L:

    Democrats received approximately 3 times as many votes as McCain did in ole’ Miss, and even the 2nd place finisher got over 40k more votes, despite getting beat by a big (20%+) margin.

    In other news, in the Democratic primary Hillary finished 2nd, Obama finished next to last.

  283. 283
    ThymeZone says:

    In other news, in the Democratic primary Hillary finished 2nd, Obama finished next to last.

    It just doesn’t take a lot to entertain you, does it?

  284. 284
    myiq2xu says:

    Uncle Remus, uncle Iq! Uncle Remus!

    “Zip-a-dee do-dah, zip-a-dee ay, my oh my what a wonderful day . . .”

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    Asti says:

    Democrats received approximately 3 times as many votes as McCain did in ole’ Miss, and even the 2nd place finisher got over 40k more votes, despite getting beat by a big (20%+) margin.

    McCain isn’t running for the candidacy, you idiot, he already has it. Missippi had an OPEN primary, the people voted for a real race, and probably half of them were Republicans playing the Limbaugh game (and some of them not so well, I might add).

    In other news, in the Democratic primary Hillary finished 2nd, Obama finished next to last.

    Uhhh, who else was on that ticket? Obama won MS, do you want to revise that?

  286. 286
    ThymeZone says:

    Zip-a-dee do-dah

    You ain’t just whistlin’ Dixie, MikeU.

    Asti, help me out here, I can’t work with this guy’s material at all …..

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    rawshark says:

    You stupid fucks want to drag race into this so badly that you conjure up any way you can to associate Obama with the ‘evil’ black guys who scare whites to vote white.

    Which is really a complete waste of time. The only people who could be made to change their vote based on this crap wouldn’t be voting for a black man anyway. Someone like MyIQ for instance. Can you see him voting for Obama if HRC doesn’t get the nomination? I can’t. I see a vote for McCain. No one can say the crap he’s saying about Obama (racist, sending coded NOI messages) and then pull the lever for the guy. What MyIQ is saying and what’s coming out of the HRC campaign is ‘HRC or Bust (McCain)’.

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    Asti says:

    Missippi

    Oh God, I need to go to bed. That was an unplanned faux pas, believe it or not. Mississippi is not going to like that. Opps, apologies to the Mississipians.

    p.s. – NoIQ, I should have block quoted that third paragraph in my last post too.

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    myiq2xu says:

    It just doesn’t take a lot to entertain you, does it?

    “When I was a little bitty boy
    My grandma bought me a cute little toy
    Two Silver bells on a string
    She told me it was my ding-a-ling-a-ling”

  290. 290
    Asti says:

    Asti, help me out here, I can’t work with this guy’s material at all

    I realize it’s difficult, but, in a couple months, he won’t be able to do this anymore, so there’s that. ;)

  291. 291
    myiq2xu says:

    Can you see him voting for Obama if HRC doesn’t get the nomination? I can’t.

    Even though my vote probably won’t matter (Big Smoggy is true-blue) I will vote for Obama if he is the nominee.

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    rawshark says:

    To add to a point I made earlier:

    I don’t see it as the same as Reagan giving a states rights speech to white southern crowds

    unless Reagan was accused of racism by another republican running for the nomination

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    Asti says:

    Which is really a complete waste of time. The only people who could be made to change their vote based on this crap wouldn’t be voting for a black man anyway. Someone like MyIQ for instance. Can you see him voting for Obama if HRC doesn’t get the nomination? I can’t. I see a vote for McCain. No one can say the crap he’s saying about Obama (racist, sending coded NOI messages) and then pull the lever for the guy. What MyIQ is saying and what’s coming out of the HRC campaign is ‘HRC or Bust (McCain)’.

    Rawshark, calm down, NoIQ is a persona, just like TZ, and the person behind him probably already voted in a primary and pulled the lever for Obama. ;) NoIQ is spoof, and almost at it’s finest (save for DougJ of course).

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    ThymeZone says:

    Opps, apologies to the Mississipians.

    Except for Trent Lott.

  295. 295
    rawshark says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    Can you see (MyIQ) voting for Obama if HRC doesn’t get the nomination? I can’t.

    Even though my vote probably won’t matter (Big Smoggy is true-blue) I will vote for Obama if he is the nominee.

    Are you brain damaged? You spend all this time trying to convince me he’s a racist and therefore, I presume, shouldn’t be voted for but you will vote for him? Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot?
    If the sheeeeeeeeee-it you spewed above isn’t enough to prevent you from voting for the guy why did you spew it?

  296. 296
    Asti says:

    Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot?

    Oh God, I LOVE that. I’m gonna get that on a shirt. ;)

    If the sheeeeeeeeee-it you spewed above isn’t enough to prevent you from voting for the guy why did you spew it?

    See my post at 12:38 ::grins::

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    ThymeZone says:

    If the sheeeeeeeeee-it you spewed above isn’t enough to prevent you from voting for the guy why did you spew it?

    –To break our hearts?

    –To taunt us AGAIN?

    –To get a grade in John’s class?

    –All of the above?

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    Asti says:

    Except for Trent Lott.

    Sorry to inform you of this, TZ, but Trent Lott is no longer Mississippian. Ever since Katrina, after Bush offered to rebuild his house, his abode has belonged to D.C. – that means that for about two years he was a senator without a state. ;)

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    Asti says:

    I vote “All of the above”

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    myiq2xu says:

    You spend all this time trying to convince me he’s a racist and therefore, I presume, shouldn’t be voted for but you will vote for him?

    Reading is a life skill.

    I NEVER said Obama was a racist. I said he was using racist dogwhistles.

    If Obama and/or Hillary are guilty of the worst accusations made against them, they are still far superior to McCain or any other Republican contender.

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    Asti says:

    If Obama and/or Hillary are guilty of the worst accusations made against them, they are still far superior to McCain or any other Republican contender.

    Not according to Hillary.

    I NEVER said Obama was a racist. I said he was using racist dogwhistles.

    ::head crashes against keyboard::

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    myiq2xu says:

    —To break our hearts?
    —To taunt us AGAIN?
    —To get a grade in John’s Master Yoda TZ’s class?
    To act as a foil/tackling dummy?
    —All of the above?

  303. 303
    Asti says:

    TZ’s class?

    I got news for you, I’m the only student in TZ’s class. He is homeschooling me. Your not invited.

  304. 304
    myiq2xu says:

    I got news for you, I’m the only student in TZ’s class. He is homeschooling me. Your not invited.

    When Luke was sent out to face Darth Vader, was Master Yoda not still his teacher?

  305. 305
    Asti says:

    When Luke was sent out to face Darth Vader, was Master Yoda not still his teacher?

    No. Luke was a fictional character, never existed, is NOT real, and never had a Master Yoda, or a chance to face Darth Vader. Darth Vader, however IS real, he resides in the Vice President’s mansion.

    TZ, can I get extra credit for this exercise, please?

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    ThymeZone says:

    I got news for you, I’m the only student in TZ’s class.

    That means … we are in a class by ourselves :)

    And MikeU was expelled for bad behavior.

  307. 307
    myiq2xu says:

    No. Luke was a fictional character, never existed, is NOT real, and never had a Master Yoda, or a chance to face Darth Vader. Darth Vader, however IS real, he resides in the Vice President’s mansion.

    I notice that you never said that Master Yoda was fictional.

  308. 308
    Asti says:

    I notice that you never said that Master Yoda was fictional.

    Little green men have always existed. ;)

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    ThymeZone says:

    When Luke was sent out to face Darth Vader, was Master Yoda not still his teacher?

    I thought it was Alec Guinness.

    Anyway, MikeU is being sent to the principal’s office. Again.

    can I get extra credit

    Of course. Please remain after class ….

  310. 310
    myiq2xu says:

    And MikeU was expelled for bad behavior not shtupping the teacher.

    Fixt

    I cannot remain silent any longer!

  311. 311
    Asti says:

    Of course. Please remain after class

    Yes, sir!

  312. 312
    ThymeZone says:

    I cannot remain silent any longer than about eight seconds!

    Accuracy, accuracy ….

  313. 313
    myiq2xu says:

    Oh shit! “Heartbreakers” is on, I gotta go.

    I luvs me some J-Love Hewitt!

  314. 314
    Asti says:

    I cannot remain silent any longer!

    The truth is, you weren’t teacher’s pet, you never were!

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    myiq2xu says:

    I luvs me some J-Love Hewitt!

    “This isn’t what it looks like! Her hair got stuck in my zipper!”

    Spitzer(swallows) should have tried that line.

  316. 316
    Asti says:

    -To act as a foil/tackling dummy?

    There you have it folks, a little bit of truth from the persona we all have come to know as the one who is sure his IQ is 2 times yours.

  317. 317
    Asti says:

    I luvs me some J-Love Hewitt!

    Hey, if you like anorexic stick figures, I say go for it, they need all the love they can get.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Alright, class dismissed. MikeU, please report to the office for discipline.

    Asti, please see me during lunch hour.

  319. 319
    ThymeZone says:

    if you like anorexic stick figures

    Truly, what is wrong with that girl?

  320. 320
    Asti says:

    Asti, please see me during lunch hour.

    I’ll be there.

  321. 321
    myiq2xu says:

    MikeU, please report to the office for discipline.

    “THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?”

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    ThymeZone says:

    I’ll be there.

    56838

  323. 323
    ThymeZone says:

    THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER

    I may have to put you in detention.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Goodnight to all, I must rest up for tomorrow’s round of bloginsanity.

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    Brachiator says:

    Asti Says:

    Some people easily adapt their language to the local accent by pure accident. I happen to be one of those people. I went to South Carolina once for a couple of days, by the end of the weekend, I was noticing the change in my language.

    Traveling on the LA commuter trains, I watched as a young Latina, maybe 4 years old, talked to her younger brother. She said everything twice, once in perfectly accented, perfectly idiomatic Spanish, and again in perfectly accented, perfectly idiomatic English. She may have been driving her parents and brother crazy, but she was clearly having fun with her effortless facility with both languages. I recall mentioning to my traveling companion that this young lady might rule the world when she grew up.

    Yes, CL, myiq knows that racism is just a divisive trick made up by black people to manipulate them and get them to vote for welfare and give away government-fried chicken.

    Actually, it’s “government cheese.” Really.

    On the other hand, Geraldine Ferraro’s odd racial tinged ramblings represent a kind of crossing of racial Rubicon for the Clinton campaign. Although Ferraro may not have entirely intended her remarks the way that they have been taken, she has encouraged the media to treat Obama’s Mississippi win simplistically, focusing on the racial disparity between the white and black vote, and indulging in speculation about whether Pennsylvania voters might “not be able” to vote for Obama.

    But here’s a little historical perspective: In the 2004 Mississippi, John Kerry won with 78% of votes cast. John Edwards was in second place, with 7.3% of the vote. Al Sharpton was in third place, with 5.2% of the vote. Although I didn’t spend time looking for a racial breakdown, it is obvious that Sharpton did not get a majority of the black vote.

    Also, in 2004, Kerry won 59,815 of a total of 76,298 votes cast. In 2008, Obama won 253,441 of 417,531 votes cast (60.7%).

    McCain already has the Republican nomination sewn up, so there is no great reason to read much into the fact that the total Republican vote in Mississippi was about 142,000.

    Still, if I were in charge of the Democratic Party, I would see a lot of advantages in having the majority of super delegates to commit to Obama now, wrap up the candidate selection process, and push every button possible to register voters and to press every possible voting advantage.

    Just saying.

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    ThymeZone says:

    Well I could not resist leaving you with this.

    This guy is just … amazing.

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    myiq2xu says:

    On the other hand, Geraldine Ferraro’s odd racial tinged ramblings represent a kind of crossing of racial Rubicon for the Clinton campaign.

    Speaking only for myself, since I do not represent the Clinton campaign, did anyone consider that HRC may have said

    “Fine, he wants to go there, let’s go there”

  328. 328
    Asti says:

    Also, in 2004, Kerry won 59,815 of a total of 76,298 votes cast. In 2008, Obama won 253,441 of 417,531 votes cast (60.7%).

    Wow, that’s a HUGE leap in numbers this year. I foresee a very large turnout in November, and an electorate that is very tired of the status quo.

  329. 329
    myiq2xu says:

    I foresee a very large turnout in November, and an electorate that is very tired of the status quo.

    I (gag, choke) agree with Asti

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    Asti says:

    Well I could not resist leaving you with this.

    This guy is just … amazing.

    It never ceases to amaze me when some presidential candidate is involved in lobbying deals like this, and still thinks he deserves the right to be president.

    John McCain doesn’t want to be President, he wants to ride in limos, be doted on by a huge staff of caretakers, be paraded about as the most important man in the world and spend big money on war in Iran while enjoying those luxurious accomodations.

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    Cain says:

    I’ve seen TZ drink ONE alcoholic drink, ever. He drinks a lot of coffee and tea, he drinks very little alcohol.

    You must be mistaken, the TZ I know is a 70 year old woman. I know this because I saw it on the internet.

    cain

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    Asti says:

    On the other hand, Geraldine Ferraro’s odd racial tinged ramblings represent a kind of crossing of racial Rubicon for the Clinton campaign. Although Ferraro may not have entirely intended her remarks the way that they have been taken, she has encouraged the media to treat Obama’s Mississippi win simplistically, focusing on the racial disparity between the white and black vote, and indulging in speculation about whether Pennsylvania voters might “not be able” to vote for Obama.

    1. I think Obama’s MS win is a huge slap in the face to her on a day when she made a damned fool of herself

    2. What I want to know is if any of the Amish are going to vote, and if they do, who would they choose? Of course, there probably aren’t a lot of votes in that category. I’m not looking at a large pool of votes, but a social question. (I’m funny that way.)

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    Asti says:

    You must be mistaken, the TZ I know is a 70 year old woman. I know this because I saw it on the internet.

    Oh, you saw TZ on the internet, I defer to your superior knowledge…

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    Asti says:

    Speaking only for myself, since I do not represent the Clinton campaign, did anyone consider that HRC may have said

    “Fine, he wants to go there, let’s go there”

    and what event are you citing for the catalyst of such a thing?

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    Asti says:

    Relate to people who saw that movie. Black people who saw that movie, since he keeps saying it to predominantly black audiences.

    Does this mean when a candidate goes to Georgia he or she shouldn’t partake of the peach pie? I’m just curious.

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    Dug Jay says:

    Here’s a statement released by the Clinton campaign by Maggie Williams, Campaign Manager:

    “In January, NBC’s Tim Russert confronted Senator Barack Obama with a four page memo from his campaign characterizing statements they claimed the Clinton Campaign had made about race. Asked in hindsight whether he regretted pushing this story, Senator Obama said:

    ‘Well, not only in hindsight, but going forward. I think that, as Hillary said, our supporters, our staff, get overzealous. They start saying things that I would not say. And it is my responsibility to make sure that we’re setting a clear tone in our campaign, and I take that responsibility very seriously, which is why I spoke yesterday and sent a message in case people were not clear that what we want to do is make sure that we focus on the issues.’

    We agreed then. We agree today. Supporters from both campaigns will get overzealous. Senator Clinton today reiterated that when asked about Geraldine Ferraro’s recent comments: “I do not agree with that and you know it’s regrettable that any of our supporters on both sides say things that veer off into the personal. We ought to keep this focused on the issues. That’s what this campaign should be about.

    Senator Obama’s campaign staff seems to have forgotten his pledge. We have not. And, we reject these false, personal and politically calculated attacks on the eve of a primary. This campaign should be about the leadership we need for a better future and these attacks serve only to divide the Democratic Party and the American people.”

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    myiq2xu says:

    Does this mean when a candidate goes to Georgia he or she shouldn’t partake of the peach pie? I’m just curious.

    Are they serving it at the Klan picnic?

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    myiq2xu says:

    This is da shit:

    I looked, all right? This morning, I took a long and unflinching gaze. How do I say this without sounding boastful? There in the bowl was a real beauty, my reward for yesterday’s hearty oatmeal breakfast and black bean and rice dinner. It was the kind of (how do we settle on a comfortable euphemism?) ejecta that would make Mom proud.

    I consulted “What’s Your Poo Telling You?” my handy field guide to human stools, and discovered that mine had an ideal shape, sinking nicely to the bottom of the bowl. Because of its textbook-perfect hue — no alarming green, red or yellowish tinge proving my bile is diseased — I can be reassured that I and my hardworking colon are healthy. I can proudly say I’m an excretion achiever!

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    rawshark says:

    myiq2xu Says:

    You spend all this time trying to convince me he’s a racist and therefore, I presume, shouldn’t be voted for but you will vote for him?

    Reading is a life skill.

    I NEVER said Obama was a racist. I said he was using racist dogwhistles.

    Writing is a life skill too bitch. You never said racist like you never said plagiarize. Fuck off, dick.

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    Asti says:

    Senator Obama’s campaign staff seems to have forgotten his pledge. We have not. And, we reject these false, personal and politically calculated attacks on the eve of a primary. This campaign should be about the leadership we need for a better future and these attacks serve only to divide the Democratic Party and the American people.”

    Perhaps Clinton would like to stop being so devisive?

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