Waterboarding- Torture In 1926

Sullivan dug up a real winner the other day:

Waterboarding was sometimes used in the Deep South to torture African-Americans and to extract false confessions to alleged crimes. And when it emerged in an appeal as long ago as 1926, even the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled it categorically “a specie of torture well known to the bench and bar of the country,” and “barbarous.” They over-turned a guilty verdict for murder by an African-American man against a white man because such methods invalidated any notion of a reliable confession…

Now granted, Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin were not around, so we cant tell for sure if this is just the ramblings of activist judges in Mississippi, but considering the era, we will assume that these were good Christian white men. Which, when you put it that way, puts those who currently advocate for torture on roughly the same moral plane as these folks:

Good company, hunh?

*** Obligatory TROLL PROTECTION ***

I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

22 replies
  1. 1
    jnfr says:

    This just shows why its important to do away with an independent judiciary, since they might conceiveably stand against the Deciderer’s decisions. Because if the President does it, it must be legal.

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    Michael D. says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    I’m glad you made that clarification. As the “Party of Lincoln” the GOP is the party of inclusion.

    They’ll waterboard anyone.

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    El Cid says:

    Now, if only they’uns had got Strom Thurmond elected in 1948, those good ol’ Klan-Americans could have pre-emptively protected us from teh terrists by torturin’ brown folk everywhere.

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    cleek says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    though they are as morally-hollow.

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    Lurker in the Dark says:

    I just wanted to thank you for blogging. It’s great to read someone with a distinct voice, and I was directed to your site when I was looking for a sane blogger voice in the moderate to conservative side (or at least outside the Eschaton set).

    In any event, it’s horrifying to read the earlier condemnations of this, and realize that now nobody in a position to do something about it cares enough to do it.

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    jenniebee says:

    Um, I’ll say it. They are for waterboarding because they think it only applies to brown non-Christians. If Andrea Yates drowned her children today instead of – was it seven? – years ago, I sincerely doubt the reaction would be “it’s horrible that she killed her children, but the method she chose was kind. You know, they do that right up to the point of death with our own soldiers in training, so you know it can’t have been that bad a way to go for those kids.”

    They’re for this because they think that saying no to Bush on this would make him and them vulnerable and because it’s being used on Muslims. When it has been done to white Judeo-Christians, they’ve been outraged. And that is the definition of racism.

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    Svensker says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    You wouldn’t want to make racists look bad by equating them with torturers.

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    canuckistani says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    I’ll say they are scum like the Klan.

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    Zifnab says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    Equal Opportunity Waterboarding! Hey! Hey! I don’t see nearly enough women, African Americans, or disabled people getting the treatment, and that is patently unfair!

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    Joshua says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    Well… maybe not all of them.

  11. 11
    Joshua says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    Well… maybe not all of them.

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    Robert Johnston says:

    Of course modern torture advocates aren’t racist like the Klan. They’re racist in a different way. Completely different. The old time Klan was pretty much hands on in its racism, while the vast majority of modern day advocates of torturing brown people on a whim would prefer for other people 1) to determine who should be randomly chosen to be tortured and 2) to do their torturing for them. Miles of difference. Modern torture advocates are vapid, morally corrupt, willfully ignorant, spineless whores to their fears. Spine matters.

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    Jake says:

    I’m glad you made that clarification. As the “Party of Lincoln” the GOP is the party of inclusion.

    They’ll waterboard anyone.

    Your Mission: Infiltrate the GOP and get them to build that idea into a commercial. I could see Tom Tancredo thinking it was a brilliant idea.

    But of course, he’d have to make it clear that illegal immigrants would NOT have access to our tax-funded waterboards!

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    jcricket says:

    I am not saying those who advocate torture are racist like the Klan.

    The current torture-advocates are merely proto-Klansman. Not quite yet formed into their hood-covered spittle-flecked white-hot-rage-filled alter egos.

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    STEVEinSC says:

    Let’s hear it for the Mississippi judges. Awash in “Americanism,” “Christian” rednecks, anti-Catholicism, anti-semitism,nativism, etc. of the time, they still spoke with the voice of the Founding Fathers for the honor of their state and the nation. How proud we should be and relieved as well that there have been people of self-respect and honor. Where are those voices now? What of the main-stream churches and the evangelicals? What part of waterboarding would Jesus have embraced?

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    tBone says:

    But of course, he’d have to make it clear that illegal immigrants would NOT have access to our tax-funded waterboards!

    You know, I think this might be one instance where Tancredo would be glad to provide service to illegals.

    What part of waterboarding would Jesus have embraced?

    The part that allows us to prevent terrorists from detonating their messenger bag nukes in major American cities, moonbat.

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    Rudi says:

    Sorry but Temple DrakeSullivan is a couple days late on this. His punishment for stealin’ someones post is…
    Sully doesn’t have a clue.

    It’s always a treat to dip beneath Jim Crow Mississippi on the scales of justice.

    Posted on November 12th, 2007

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    OxyCon says:

    I wonder if Rush Limpbaughs’ forefathers had anything to do with torturing blacks in Mississippi.

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    Bubblegum Tate says:

    So who in history embraced waterboarding?

    Those fine Christians behind the Spanish Inquisition
    The Japanese during WWII
    The Gestapo
    Khmer Rouge
    The North Vietnamese
    The KKK

    and…

    …Bushies! They must be so proud of the historical company they keep.

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    BIRDZILLA says:

    Why do you think our empoporer clinton signed us in the ICC its just once plan to set up concentration camps in america and send all those who oppose the NEW WORLD ORDER(SOCIALISM) and the one world religion(EARTH WORSHIP SACRIFICING VIRGINS)all under UN control

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