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I heard some lady named Plame is in the news. Anyone ever heard of her?
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MikeF
They sure screwed her (and us) pretty bad. The more that comes out makes the P.O.S administration look even worse which I did not think was possible.
Sorry about the Steelers. I didn’t think Denver had it in them to make that last drive but Cutler has improved and clicked well with their no-name receiver group.
Pb
Wow, I never thought I’d see this line in the MSM:
Paul L.
Did Saint Valerie explain her three versions of how Joe got sent to Niger?
Bombadil
Which has exactly what to do with the illegal outing of a covert CIA agent?
Abe Froman
Headline as seen on MSNBC:
“White House tells Iraq it wants ‘swift action’ against rebel raids on Turkey”
Somebody want to remind the White House that they called Iraq a Sovereign Nation ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/20040628-9.html ) which is different then a puppet state.….. I guess somebody should first explain to the wonder boy king the difference between the two. Ay’ Carumba!
Paul L.
Nothing, What part about Open Thread confuses you?
TR
So if Kit Bond says it, Paul, that means it’s true? Give me a fucking break.
Bob In Pacifica
Paul L., can you remember all the reasons why we invaded Iraq?
DC in CDA
My favorite bit from Strata’s post:
Thanks for the pointer to it, Paul. I needed the irony and the laugh.
Pb
Wow. Strata is a spoof?
Grumpy Code Monkey
Paul L,
The issue is not Plame’s credibility. The issue is the disclosure of her status as a covert agent. Her actual level of involvement in Wilson’s trip to Niger in no way excuses or justifies the leak of that information. She could be the worst officer in the entire agency and it still would not excuse the leak. Everyone who was demanding Sandy Berger be locked up for losing classified documents (and I was one of them) should be just as outraged over this incident, but instead a distressing number of them would rather attack Plame and Wilson, because, I don’t know, they made Commander Decider Guy and his Legion of Dim look bad.
I guess national security only matters if it suits your political aims. Otherwise, fuck it. It’s not like we need to worry about non-proliferation or anything like that.
TR
Has to be a spoof. Can anyone be that stupid and still be able to type?
Face
Plame = Pretty + Lame
Next topic?
Can we please start bombing the Iranians? I just bought stock in Gillete, and can’t wait until we force all of those bearded jihadists to shave clean. 1 million razors in the first week. Profits, bitches.
Face
Oh. My.
When we can all be out-spoofed by the CIA….Seriously, someone tell me this is a hoax. Please.
capelza
Grumpy Code Monkey ..Berger “lost” documents? I thought he took copies of documents without authorisation.
capelza
Forgot…as has been pointed out, the issue is that a covert CIA agent was outed.
This is the text book example of deflection. When even the CIA said she was covert (and you would have thought that obvious when they asked for the investigation. They didn’t need someone else to tell them if one of their agents was covert) the creepy admin and their lackeys said..”Hey, look over there…nepotism!…That’s. that..that’s a gajillion times worse than actually outing a CIA agent and her entire business because we are vindictive pricks who always try to kill the messenger (or in this case let AQ do it)!!!!”.
Pb
capelza,
The irrevocably “missing” Sandy Berger documents = the “missing” Iraqi WMDs… no one can actually prove that he ever had them, or that they were taken anywhere, but they just know it…
In other news, al-Qaeda was going after Valerie Plame too, or so said the FBI, apparently… just another American who wasn’t protected from the alleged terrorist threats we face, but rather endangered by those who pretend to face it…
Zifnab
Keep in mind, spoof and spook are only one letter off.
WRONG! The issue is that Valerie Plame is in league with Hillary Clinton to install partisan aparatiks across the length and breedth of the national government. This is all an attempt to undermine the federal government in its fight against the terrorists. Joe Wilson wants to SEE YOU IN A BURKA! And the CIA has had it out for the Bush Administration, attempting to undermine it and bring about its defeat, since Bush was originally elected by the popular vote to office.
Dick Army blabbed Valerie Plame’s name – as has been well documented since this debacle started – because he was in cahoots with the rogue Al Qaeda affiliates within our Central Intelligence Service. Then, through CIA proxies like Tim Russert and the New York Times, as well as “Republican” moles like DC Judge Reggie Walton, “Special Prosecutor” Patrick Fitzgerald, and the twelve members of the Libby jury, the liberal conspirators fabricated a case against the office of the Vice President in order to destroy American Morale regarding the Iraq War Against Terror-Lamo-Extremo-Fascists.
It’s Stalin-era politics all over again, with the Bush Administration playing Russian Aristocracy to the Clinton Bolshevk revolution. And with the media firmly in the pocket of neo-communist islamo-fascist traitors, its only a matter of time before our nation is fooled into throwing away our Democracy as 2 million Iraqi “refugees” come pouring over the US-Iraq border, to invade our country and occupy our cities.
All because you stupid liberals have decided to fall for the ridiculous lies of the Plame conspiracy.
The Other Steve
Did Niger sell Uranium to Iraq?
The question of credibility pertains to that question, no others.
RSA
Kevin Drum points to this interesting story about how the FBI extracted an apparently false confession from a suspect and then persuaded a court to redact the description of what happened.
D-Chance.
Bah, who cares about Valerie Plame when we’re all DOOMED by the HILLARY-MONSTER!!! From the Carpetbagger:
Heh.
But, when I was out Friday afternoon, I walked into a small rural truck-stop/cafe where a customer was in a rather heated discussion with the store clerk… and it was about Hillary. “If you want 60% tax rates, then go ahead and vote for Hillary! She’s going to take 60% of our money! She’s already said she’ll raise everyone’s taxes by 20% to pay for her healthcare plan! Go look it up on the internet! It’s all there! She’s going to take everything away from us!” The clerk just smiled, clammed up, and he went on his way… and while she was checking in the merchandise I was bringing into the store, I simply said, “if she’s the candidate, I’ll vote for her, too.” She smiled.
The sad part is that the ranting customer was just your average hard-working Joe. Blue-collar, obvious Mexican descent which, given the attitude and treatment Mexicans and blue-collar workers have received the past six years, makes me wonder just what the Hell he and so many like him still see in the group currently running the show.
Pb
RSA,
Pretty amazing — also, how often do you see both Glenns–Reynolds and Greenwald–linking approvingly to Patterico?
The Other Steve
Indeed.
The Populist
Why oh why do the right not get worked up over the outing of a CIA agent? They sound like a man who cheated on his wife and got caught. The excuses as to why it’s perfectly okay to potentially (and most likely have achieved) commit treason so the right can protect their war and President’s bad decisions.
If Clinton had done the same thing these psychofants would have tried to throw him out of office using the T word. Bush and Cheney as well as all others complicit in this mess should be on trial right now for further selling this country out to their cronies.
The Populist
The sad part is that the ranting customer was just your average hard-working Joe. Blue-collar, obvious Mexican descent which, given the attitude and treatment Mexicans and blue-collar workers have received the past six years, makes me wonder just what the Hell he and so many like him still see in the group currently running the show.
The book is called What’s the Matter with Kansas? I believe it accurately portrays how the right have really hammered into these folks that the left is about killing babies and stealing your money.
Problem is the same party they love so much steals their money by giving tax breaks to the richest Americans and handing out welfare to corporations that don’t add any more jobs. In the meantime the party actively promotes judges that would make sure any working class stiff who has a case against an employer for awful work conditions or a doctor for malpractice or even a faulty product or contract will NEVER see that case proceed.
All the while their kids are dying in Iraq for a war that didn’t need to happen all the while gas prices jump because of unstable world conditions. The best yet is that while their taxes aren’t going up, the consumer price index does and their kids will inherit one hell of a debt caused by a party who enjoys giving breaks to those who can easily afford it, leaving Joe Schmoe continuing to pay the same tax rate but with more debt than ever before.
Yep, that Hill wants to RAISE my taxes…problem is we have so much debt to shoulder that Joe Schmoe will only be hit harder in the future when safety net programs have to be slashed, the public infrastructure (you know, Joe, the one you use to transport your goods to market or go to your job) crumbles with nothing left to fix it. Yep, you sure saved a few bucks there! Problem then becomes a bankrupt government that has no credibility in a world that has realized they don’t need us.
Sure, they fear us, but Russia and China can easily keep reminding us that they will do whatever it takes to keep us at bay.
Why are these people so dense? Borrow and spend is much worse than tax and spend.
Punchy
This is stunning.
Shorter NASA–We won’t tell you how unsafe you are, cuz otherwise you might act rational and buy fewer tickets, and although that would be the wise and prudent move, we can’t possibly afford to have Northworst Airlines go under, as we’d have to bail them out…again.
Can you imagine if this report instead was about the number and frequency of child molesters near a school? The outrage that would follow for not releasing it?
How in the fuck is NASA allowed to bury this?
Bubblegum Tate
The comedy gods are smiling upon us as Mark Noonan ponders running against Harry Reid. All humor-loving Americans have an obligation to encourage Noonan to run. It’ll be hilarious.
Zifnab
Why does the average American have a negative savings rate? And $9k in credit card debt? And a sub-prime loan that’ll be readjusting in the next few months?
We are a capitalist society in the worst way. We want everything and we don’t want to pay for it. Because our society has developed these atrocious habits, politicians and corporations can get us to justify just about anything so long as we never have to see the bill come due. War with a foreign country to bring down gas prices? Sure. Job migrations to Mexico and China where minimum wages don’t exist and pre-teens are employed to do hours upon hours of manual labor, so I can buy tennis shoes for $40? Sounds good. A $300 tax rebate for me, that’ll be worth $300 million to some business tycoon? I’m fine with that.
What people seem to forget, time and again, is that the Democratic system is no better than the people who vote in it. Corrupt the middle-class with lies and false promises while you intimidate the malcontents and purge the poor from your voter rolls, and you get a government that runs on lies and false promises, intimidates dissidents, and offers no representation to the country’s most needy.
Surprise Surprise.
Bombadil
But, but, but…The Preznit says we should go shopping, or the turrurrists win!
montysano
Checking Drudge: he’s got some Bill Maher, he’s got some Hugo Chavez, got some Britney, but Valerie Plame is conspicuous in her absence.
Paul L, please tell us: was outing Plame a good thing? Are you proud of it? Yes or No answers only, please, and no deflections about who sent who for what reason.
One more time, Paul: was outing Plame a good thing? Are you proud of it? Yes or no?
Punchy
I wish they would have outed Plame in Playboy. And I’m not talking about the interview section.
Randolph Fritz
It is amazing how much US politics can be explained as an expression of masculinity doubts. And I don’t even like Hilary–she’s too conservative for me.
The Populist
Why does the average American have a negative savings rate? And $9k in credit card debt? And a sub-prime loan that’ll be readjusting in the next few months?
Excellent points. I agree, but I just don’t get why people allow their government to spend as much as it does. They whine about being overtaxed YET they can’t see how bad it is when their own guvmint borrows so much money it means they have to go to others for a handout.
In our case we are China’s bitch. They buy our debts and hold them over our head YET that doesn’t bother them? Their biggest worry is whether they will get overtaxed by Hilary, yet Bush is leaving us a bill that will HAVE to be paid one day or we all go down.
I never quite understand why working class people buy into the idea that tax cuts for the rich are good. Do they not see the elitism in that? Do they not see that these folks do NOT put it back into the economy? Why should I pay more (I make over 100K) in alternative minimum tax every darned year so Buffy can buy another Lamborghini for his spoiled kid?
Everybody should pay their fair share. If they don’t like it, too bad. It’s not socialist to believe this. If somebody doesn’t like taxes, well, I can’t think of many other countries that don’t tax their citizens less. Until we can pay off the debt, I will gladly get back to listening to the whole tax cut thing because, like most, I hate paying so much in taxes that go to subsidize the less productive states and such.
Peter Johnson
Valerie Plame is a beautiful woman and I’m sorry her career was ruined. But what did she expect to happen when her husband was running around telling lies to everyone he could find?
Dick Armitage never should have outed her. But joewilson set the whole thing in motion.
Randolph Fritz
PJ: Ms. Plame expected that the administration would honor their oaths, as she has honored hers. Need I point out that the Powerline folks have no honor?
Bombadil
We have a new category of posting, here folks — “uber stupid”. I think Darrell must have gone down to the crossroads and sold his soul to the devil to be able to come up with idiocy that exists on so many different levels. Linking to Powerline to demonstrate that Joe Wiulson was lying, and using this as an “excuse” for commiting the blatantly illegal act of outing the identity of a covert CIA agent? The mind boggles.
Tax Analyst
“Undercover Agent of the Month”?
OR –
“Un-Covered Agent of the Month”?
I feel somewhat dirty making light of a really very serious and troubling incident, but I’m at a loss to add anything to the discussion. One “side” refuses to see a problem with outing a covert CIA operative. They deny any harm to our country’s national security, to the agent involved, to any foreign nationals who worked with and cooperated with the agent or anyone else. Nothing matters except protecting “The Decider” and his minions. An agent with 20+ years experience is neutralized and big, red target signs painted on anyone she worked with over the years in whatever troubled foreign countries she was assigned to. When these deniers are asked to address these issues they nimbly counter with “Well…Sandy Berger…Sandy Berger…Sandy Berger…”. Is there anything else that can possibly be said to get these dissembling dim-wits to recognize just how little the Administration they are bound and determined to support and protect actually cares about them – or our real national security interests – or for that matter, anyone who is not in their favored circle?
Bubblegum Tate
It is a Wugnut Known Truth that Joe Wilson has lied about absolutely everything relating to this–he lied about who sent him to Africa, he lied about his findings, the whole magilla. It’s just that he’s apparently a really shitty liar as the facts actually bear out his claims.
The wingnuts’ capacity for inverting “truth” and “lies” really is astonishing.
Randolph Fritz
Tax Analyst: there are many people whose respect for authority trumps their reason. In a healthy democracy there are also checks on authoritarianism, but these have all gone by the wayside, and so we are vulnerable. This whole administration has been the story of all our political sins remembered.
Tax Analyst
Gosh, with every post Peter proves himself a bigger imbecile. Just when you think he can’t stay anything dumber, more illogical or idiotic he pops up with another ridiculously ludicrous comment.
Oh, yeah…Paul L is right there with him. I’m just surprised he hasn’t brought up the Duke Lacrosse Team Rape case in this thread (I humbly apologize if my post here incites him to do so – he almost HAS to; how else can he avoid answering the point-blank question from montysano at 12:17pm today?)
Tax Analyst
Agreed, Randolph. The key words in your remark are “healthy democracy”. A compliant media and a lazy, easily-distracted public do not equal a “healthy democracy”. This sad and pathetic combination has allowed this administration to do as they please without having to deal with that pesky “accountability” thing. I’d like to believe the public (and mainstream media) will not continue to play “Charlie Brown” to Dubyah’s “Lucy”, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
RSA
Do you think they’d be willing to cover my current medical bills? I could use the help.
Zifnab
It’s all tax-voodoo. Republicans cute $3000 dollars out of every citizen’s potential government assistance so they can hand out $300 in tax breaks. I get $300 more back on my taxes, throw my hands in the air and cheer. Then, when my Medicare gets cut back ten years down the line, I’m told “socialized medicine doesn’t work” and buy into another round of tax cuts.
Joe American is not a certified CPA. He doesn’t see the government’s books. So when a Republican lawmaker cuts a billion dollars out of FEMA’s budget and tosses a few million of it on the pile for poor people’s tax breaks, nobody sees the damage until the Hurricane hits. And even then, he doesn’t know exactly WHY the disaster agency is understaffed and the relief units don’t show up and no one has the job skills to know how to get the lights back on again. All he knows is “Republicans said the government doesn’t work” and “The government isn’t working” and “I’d happily have the rest of my money back if FEMA isn’t going to do me any good.”
Zifnab
Comforting to know that Plame’s hotness somehow factors into a breach of national security.
Focality
With the release of her book, how long until Riehl tells us he wants to do her up the butt?
PaulW
You should set up a separate thread for Big East football, so I can cry my eyes out about the Bulls’ fall from grace.
As for the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush administration, I stopped crying a long time ago, which I think was their intent all along.
I’m focusing on starting up an advocacy group to try and get all 50 states to hold presidential primaries on the same day in mid-June and to limit elections to the specific year of election (what are the odds people are already planning campaigns for 2012?!)…
The Other Steve
Did Niger sell Uranium to Iraq?
If you keep avoiding that question, you cannot be surprised when you are attacked for it.
Tax Analyst
Well, she obviously WANTED to be outed. That’s the way it is with Covert CIA Sluts, you know…
capelza
TA…you got it! Look at the way she dressed…she was askin’ for it.
Grumpy Code Monkey
Considerably more than her career was ruined. What about her contacts? What about the work she was doing? What about NATIONAL FUCKING SECURITY?!
Jesus Tap Dancing Christ On A Giraffe. What did she expect? A career intelligence officer should expect to have her identity compromised in an act of petty political payback because her husband called the administration’s claims into question? Are you fucking kidding me?!
Of course she didn’t expect this, because this isn’t how rational adults act.
The whole thing was set in motion by the mendacious twits currently running the country by fabricating a case for war against Iraq. Wilson called them on their bullshit, and Armitage needs to go to fucking prison over it.
Jesus. Blame the victim. Works for rape cases, why not fuckups like this?
Dreggas
Flew into Orange County Airport in California this morning after being in Phoenix for the weekend. Was like flying into a warzone. To the south, huge clouds of smoke. To the north, huge clouds of smoke. Below even more smoke from new fires not to mention sand storms. The airplane was being tossed like a tin can due to turbulance. Got off the plane and needed a bandanna covering my mouth to be able to breathe once I left the airport. Sun was partially blocked by smoke and there was no avoiding it.
And Then I hear glen beck saying shit like this: Fucking asshat
tBone
Yes. Peter Johnson is a spoof. A pretty good one, too, since his posts are virtually indistinguishable from standard-issue winger bullshit. The double-phallic screen name is a dead giveaway, though.
Punchy
A huge lightbulb just flickered on above Vivid Video’s head.
Tax Analyst
I think you’re right, tBone – I shoulda caught on sooner…back a week or two ago when he was talking about Michelle Malkin and exhibiting a creepy, barely-repressed obsessiveness about how “gorgeous”, “lovely” and “beautiful” she was…he used each of those terms in consecutive sentences in the same comment. Plus he seemed inordinately over-protective of her as well. Yeah, and the “Peter Johnson” double-phallic screen-name should have a dead give-away. I mean, what could have been more obvious? “Dick Mammoth”?
Dreggas
The subtitle:
“Saving the world from Weapons of Ass Destruction”
Tax Analyst
I guess I’m too late to put in a copyright claim on that title, eh?
Just as well, who needs all the litigation, anyway?
Tax Analyst
“Weapons of Ass Destruction”…
…otherwise known as “WAD”…
Dreggas
Seymour Butts had this to say: “These girls will definitely make you Shoot your wad before you can say ‘security council resolution’!”
Tax Analyst
Co-Starring: Lynne Chayneme, Condi Writhes & Roni Cumsfeld…
Pb
Actually, I know a guy named that–but he could do a much better job…
Bill Arnold
Oh. My.
When we can all be out-spoofed by the CIA….Seriously, someone tell me this is a hoax. Please.
You be the judge (cia.gov link):
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Dreggas
Along with Sodom Hussein.
Zifnab
He might want to watch his mouth. It takes a certain kind of messed-up-in-the-head rich-off-his-ass wingnut to listen to Glenn Beck regularly. A fair number of those moneyed panty wastes just happen to live all over Sunny So Cal. Perhaps Beck should run a few demographics polls before he goes flapping his yap like that.
Tax Analyst
How could I have missed that one???
Dreggas
Well, he was a up-and-cummer but died in a “choking” incident.
Tsulagi
I’m thinking so. Along with Jimmy Mack, two trucks.
Dreggas
so, a new fire just started in So-Cal, was tiny 15 mins ago, now it’s a huge wall of fire right on the edges of people’s yards.
This is insane.
Punchy
S’mores, bitches.
Tax Analyst
Wow! The situation really has spiralled out of control out here, hasn’t it? I was listening to the all-news radio station just before I headed out to work this morning and they had a brief, “Live, on-the-spot interview” with some area Fire Chief and he was saying one specific fire was “0% under-control”…which means the fire would do what it would do pretty much until there was nothing else for it to do anymore. Now it’s plenty safe and secure down here in the various flat-land areas of Greater Los Angeles (as far as I can tell), but it seems like it’s tearing up a whole bunch of Orange County, Mountain and hill areas, and a pretty big stretch of the Malibu area along PCH, too…we’ve got some pretty strong breezes blowing and 90-degree + temperatures in a lot of places…combine that with the mostly year-long drought and that spells some big-freaking trouble. I also read a quote from some San Diego area fire prevention guy about how this caught them off-guard…how-in-the-fuck could they have NOT anticipated this? I think it was Friday night…I went out for a bit and noticed how warm and dry and breezy it was and I thought, “Oh-oh…Santa Ana winds + unseasonably warm weather + we’ve not had much rain in quite a while = a strong possibility of some really horrible fires”…and that was just a very casual observation I made just by going outside of my apartment for a few minutes. My biggest surprise is when I read or hear that someone was surprised that this could happen.
Whatever, I wouldn’t want to be one of the fire fighter’s on the front lines trying to deal with this. A sudden shift in the wind and they can be really screwed in the blink of an eye.
Psycheout
Dick Armitage and Scooter Libby are American heroes. They exposed Joe “the Liar” Wilson for the fraud he was. The lesson learned is that CIA employees shouldn’t play politics. Val outed herself anyway by showing up in Vanity Fair with her hubby in their “The Spy Who Loved Me” article and photo spread.
Peter Johnson
That wasn’t me. That was another commenter, can’t remember his name “The Stranger”, maybe.
I agree it was creepy. But I had nothing to do with it.
I don’t find Michelle Malkin especially attractive. I’ll take Valerie over her any day of the week, regardless of her husband’s ambulance chasing ways.
RSA
I just hope they’re not the same firefighters who did “a piss-poor job” in Montana, risking their lives for $8 to $12 dollars an hour.
More seriously, we hear about fires every year in California and neighboring states, and I wonder whether we have the right policies for dealing with them.
Tax Analyst
…because everybody knows how “heroic” perjury and obstructing an FBI investigation is. You know, you never say anything that isn’t complete crap – Let’s take today, for instance; Valerie Plame didn’t appear in Vanity Fair until well AFTER she was outed by your “heroes”. I guess tossing around inaccurate bullshit makes you a “hero” as well. Funny, where I come from we call people who do that “assholes”.
Different culture, I guess…
Tax Analyst
Well, I’m hardly an expert, but judging from recent events I would take a wild guess and say “No”. But I think the problem lies more in our increasing development in and and adjacent to wilderness areas…there probably needs to be more “controlled-burns”, but that’s a very tricky proposition…if I’m not mistaken one of those “controlled-burns” went OUT of control and burned up a vast area somewhere in the Mountain Zone not all that long ago.
Out here in Southern California I think one of the big issues is that much of this area is really pretty much dry desert that man has forcibly tried to alter into being a “non-desert”. You can do a whole lot of stuff but underneath it all – at the very core, it’s still dry desert, except with a lot of houses and various plants and such that are not necessarily indigenous to the area added to it. If it were not developed you would still have fires, but they would just be burning in remote desert regions and in most cases run out of fuel at a certain point. We keep building and planting more fuel further and further out into previously unoccupied areas.
Anyway, that’s my very off-the-cuff, amateur analysis. I’m perfectly willing to accept a better explanation if someone has got one.
The Other Steve
Nobody seems to be willing to address the question…
Did Niger sell Uranium to Iraq?
Did Iraq even attempt to buy Uranium from Niger?
I wonder why that is?
Tax Analyst
Are you sure about that? I could have sworn it was you…it was in a thread that dealt with her appearance on Chris Matthew’s show, although I don’t know if that was the original thread topic, and I believe and it was around 2 or perhaps 3 weeks ago.
I recall several comments noting that Malkin refused to take responsibility for some remarks she had made and that many reader’s felt Matthews handled it perfectly.
If I knew how to “Search” this site a little better I could probably find the post, but I have no idea how to efficiently do such a search here.
I suppose if you deny it I have to go with that unless and until I can find the particular post that I saw.
So if you’re not a spoof I’ll tender a conditional, half-assed apology for associating you with that particular type of creepiness. I know you’ll feel completely vindicated by that.
Tax Analyst
Hey, Other Steve…Look…it’s Sandy Berger – riding bare-back while straddling a pair of jackalopes.
Oh…wait…it’s just Peter J. & Paul L. & Psychout…I can’t tell which is which from here, though.
RSA
Thanks, Tax Analyst; better analysis than I could do. When I lived in SoCal, a long-time resident said to me in conversation, “You have to remember it’s a desert,” which I tended to forget. I hope that eventually people will come to realize that when you live in a desert (or in a flood plain, or on a coastal area that’s being reworked by water flow), you have to understand that some natural effects are to be expected, and you can only keep them tamped down for so long. And then usually it’ll be worse than if you’d just let things happen.
Bombadil
TA, are you thinking of PJ’s admiration for Meghan McArdle?
Dreggas
TA,
Yeah, OC is taking a pounding currently. You look in any direction and…smoke. You inhale and ya feel like you are downwind from a campfire. Of course you also smell like one coming in.
The Santiago fire has already been deemed arson, it had 3 seperate start points and is the one causing my sinuses and throat the biggest annoyance right now because it is (quite literally) just over the hill from me.
I think what caught the fire crews by suprise is that the fires usually “lay down” over night, it allows the crews to get the upperhand. Well none of these have laid down over night, instead they just got stronger. Combine that with steady high winds with hurricane strength gusts as well as 4% humidity and it’s the perfect firestorm.
Tax Analyst
RSA – You’re welcome. It’s probably surprising, but in between ranting at and upbraiding wing-nuts and posting smutty, wise-assed innuendo I can be fairly rational.
Tax Analyst
Ah…well, that last paragraph explains a lot for me…thanks! Arson – that sure sucks…it’s sad, but whenever we get a big fire out here you can count on some jack-ass adding to it – or being the one who started the whole mess in the first place.
Sounds like that fire is too damn close to you for comfort – I guess I don’t have to tell you to be careful, but you know I just can’t help myself when I’ve got all these letters on a keyboard just waiting for me to jab at them.
My boss was just saying when he got here this morning (Santa Fe Springs) the air was quite clear and clean smelling…unlike the area around Irvine where he lives now…and he said he went out about 2:30 and his eyes were watering and throat was hurting, so I guess the particulate matter from the fires has descended upon much of the flat-land areas now, too. Culver City is where I’m headed next..guess I’ll see how that area is faring. During the last big area fires I found a lot of soot on my car for several consecutive mornings and was hacking pretty good during the evening until I closed up all my windows.
well, headed home now…hope that everyone comes through this mess OK.
Dreggas
TA,
things are alright here, the fires stay over the hill usually but will see what happens. The ash will prolly start falling like snow around here, just hoping the fires stay where they are at. Granted I am pretty safe in that I am in a pretty urban and therefore concrete area, however it could change.
Tax Analyst
Bombadil – No, whoever was doing the swooning was definitely creaming in their drawer’s over Malkin…I can’t say for sure now that it was PJ, but it was definitely about Malkin…and it was back a couple of weeks ago…I can’t recall if it was at the beginning of the Frost brouhaha or something else, but it was regarding Malkin and an appearance with Chris Matthews, which probably means it was on a segment of “Hardball”. I can’t nail it down any tighter than that, though. My memory is not quite what it used to be (which was very close to photographic – somewhere along the line it morphed or mutated into “pornographic”, so now it’s sometimes hard to tell “fact” from “fucking”).
Thanks for the suggestion, though – appreciate it.
Randolph Fritz
On reflection, I think that Valerie Plame’s looks are a huge advantage for her, just as Coulter’s and Malkin’s are; they will get her notice, a sympathetic hearing when she might otherwise be ignored, and open some minds which would otherwise be closed. She’s in an awful place–she’s got the President and VP of the USA and the Director of the CIA desperately wanting her to just disappear. She needs all the advantages she can get.
Grumpy Code Monkey
Dammit. I used to be pretty good at spotting Loki trolls. Getting old sucks.
Krista
My feet are freaking killing me. Took a cab to City Hall, then walked from there to the WTC site, over to Battery Park, then to the South St. Seaport, up Wall Street, back to City Hall, over the Brooklyn Bridge, along the Promenade, BACK over the Brooklyn Bridge, and then all the freaking way back up to 35th.
Having a great time, wish you were here, lots of love, and all that happy horseshit.
snorkel
Tax Analyst: I think you are referring to the Balkin’ Malkin thread from Oct 12. First there is this post:
Then PJ posted:
Psycheout
Good for you Krista! I hope you find married life more rewarding than your years of living in sin.
Randolph Fritz
More on this from Larry Johnson, also ex-CIA, here and here. It’s stunning stuff, and if half of it is true, the Bush administration looks even worse, and has made a very bad enemy. I notice one remark from Plame on Rove:
Think about this for a moment; this is a covert ops agent talking about how to wreck someone’s reputation. If I were Karl Rove, I think I’d be a bit scared, about now. [Similar remark posted on The Sideshow.]
Punchy
Uh…Kris? Aren’t you supposed to be married, honeymooning and having the boom-chicha-boom every 15 minutes? Why are you posting on Single John’s blog, making Single Punchy reply to your post when he should be boom-chica-booming? :)
Psycheout
Valerie Plame is obviously trying to sell a book.
Mr. M'Choakumchild
I like the title for the book: Fair Game. It is a term we often hear, most recently from Steyn regarding Graeme Frost.
RSA
I’d have thought that A and B, at least, would be mutually exclusive.
Bombadil
Yeah, what Punchy said. (Except I thought it was “boom chicka maow maow”. At least that was the music in all the movies in the 80s).
Tax Analyst
Snorkel,
Yep, that was it. That’s exactly the one I was referring to. And yes, it appears it was indeed “Stranger” rather than Peter Johnson. I appreciate the research effort and acknowledge the correction.
Peter, you’ve been vindicated of Malkin Lust, at least to my satisfaction.
I still think you’re a misguided dork about everything else, though.
Bombadil
Well, he did make the “He doesn’t do so well around attractive women” comment, apparently refering back to Stalkin. It may not be Malkin Lust, but it’s still kind of creepy.
Krista
We took a half hour to send emails to our folks and whatnot, I had 10 minutes to spare and decide to say hi to you guys. Doing the same today. Nice to know (i.e. extremely disturbing) that you guys are so concerned about my quantity of baowm-chicka-baow-baow.
Tax Analyst
Totally agree.
Tax Analyst
Concerned voyeurs want to know, even if they must satisfy their voyeurism in the written format.
Have a Very Merry Married Blissnest, Krista…
…and if you think of me when you “baowm-chicka-baow-baow”, get help, OK?
Bombadil
Vicarious thrills are still thrills.
Krista
Tee hee hee. Wentto Babbo. 8-couse tastig menue w/ wine for each freakin’ course. Food was soooooooo amazing. Gastronomical orgams. Did not See Mario Batali or wouldhve told him to stop wering orange crocs. What th fuck -= dude, you can afford better shoes than that. you guys ar awwwwwesome. Tax Analyzt is cool, Dregaas is kinky, Punchy says anything, and even Ps7chout is frakkin’ awesome. Love you gusy.
joh colle, you gotta add me as a fri3n in Facebook so you can see my weeding pictures ‘n ‘ stuff.
Am now going to put on reaaaaaalllly expensive black lingerie ‘n’ stuff. Wedding was awesome an’ perfct. Baom-chicka-bao-bao!!! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee~!!!!!
I’m reallly gonna regret posting ths, aren’t I? Oh well. Feck it.
TenguPhule
Translated Peter Prick: The Bitch was asking for it!
Peter Johnson forfeits any right to complain about anything President Hillary does with the powers Bush grabbed.