Left Wing Hate Speech

Ok, Oliver. I will see you one fringe wing-nut and raise you the CHAIRMAN OF THE NAACP:

In remarks to hundreds of cheering liberal activists Wednesday, NAACP Chairman Julian Bond singled out Republicans as enemies of black Americans and compared conservatives to the terrorist Taliban who once ruled Afghanistan.

“Their idea of equal rights is the American flag and the Confederate swastika flying side by side,” Bond told a cheering audience. “They’ve written a new constitution for Iraq and ignore the Constitution here at home. They draw their most rabid supporters from the Taliban wing of American politics. Now they want to write bigotry back into the Constitution.”

Charming fellow.

Bond called the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 two of America’s greatest achievement. He then went on to attack Republicans.

“The passage of these two laws in 1964 and 1965 marked the beginning of the dependence of the Republican Party on the politics of racial division to win elections and gain power,” Bond said. “By playing the race card in election after election, they’ve appealed to that dark underside of American culture, to that minority of Americans who reject democracy and equality. They preach racial neutrality and they practice racial division.”

This sounds so familiar. Where have I heard this before? Oh, yeah, there was that speech in 2004:

Republicans appeal “to the dark underside of American culture, to that minority of Americans who reject democracy and equality,” NAACP Chairman Julian Bond said yesterday at the civil rights group’s 94th annual convention.

And then there was that little 2001 dust-up:

“He has selected nominees from the Taliban wing of American politics, appeased the wretched appetites of the extreme right wing and chosen Cabinet officials whose devotion to the Confederacy is nearly canine in its uncritical affection.”

And of course, when Julian Bond talks about playing the race card in every election, he and the NAACP know a thing or two about it. You remember the Byrd commercial funded and run by the NAACP- just to inform people. You remember the radio commercials in St. Louis stating a vote for the GOP and ‘more black churches would burn.’

Julian Bond- Asshole, bigot, political hack, and unfortunately, the voice for a community of people who deserve a helluva lot better.

*** Update ***

Since certain apologists, when not confusing Julian Bond with Kweise Mfume, seem content to launch ridiculous ad hominems against the source of the news rather than the source of the quotes, Bret has kindly provided the link to Bond’s remarks in full.






32 replies
  1. 1

    “Asshole, bigot, political hack, and unfortunately, the voice for a community of people who deserve a helluva lot better.”

    In a democracy, people get the leaders they deserve, for good or ill. It’s a sad testament to black America, but they (admittedly along with a large number of others) are the ones who support this buffoon and his bullshit, and theyr’e the ones who will pay for it in the long run when eternal victimhood doesn’t pay off.

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    PilotCman says:

    Way to project moron. Why don’t you adress the rights slander of kerry ?

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    Oliver says:

    John, don’t you find it a little odd that Mfume’s comments are being this spun this way only by CNSNews (an arm of the Bozell-run Media Research Center, and sucking from the same well of Newsmax) and being amplified (surprise, surprise) by Rush “orificers” Limbaugh?

    And to ignore the Republicans legacy (and ongoing strategy) of appealling to the most base racist beliefs is just intellectual dishonesty on your part.

  4. 4
    PilotCman says:

    add hellyeah i’ve been drining i’m on my 4th JD

  5. 5
    John Cole says:

    Oliver- show me how I spun his remarks. I thought those quotation marks meant something.

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    Fututor says:

    “And to ignore the Republicans legacy (and ongoing strategy) of appealling to the most base racist beliefs is just intellectual dishonesty on your part.”

    Read some history pal. The Democratic party was the party of bigotry, prejudice, and racism before JFK. Now they just want African-Americans to remain the mindless drone underclass through “social” programs. Obviously, neither you or Mr. Bond have ever heard of Abraham Lincoln, Everett Dirksen, or the plethora of other Republicans who have always been behind African-Americans?

    One more thing: Has any other president had as many minorities, or African-Americans specifically, in his cabinet than George W. Bush? Answer that and tell me Republicans are the bane of African-Americans.

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    Oliver says:

    John, until I see a transcript from a real news source – I really have no idea what was said or the context of it.

    And Fututor, its glad to see that Neal Boortz isn’t the only liar on the right. Perhaps it is you who needs to crack open a history book, and you’ll find that many of today’s Republicans are the descendants of pro-segregation Dems in the south.

  8. 8
    PilotCman says:

    Fututor

    Looks like you need to learn some history. Oliver said it best. Most of the modern day repugs were the old Dixicrats.

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    Sav says:

    “of pro-segregation Dems in the south.”

    I think that says more than Oliver wanted to.

  10. 10
    Sav says:

    Robert Byrd? William Fulbright?

    Which party collected more “Yes” voted for the 1968 Civil Rights Act?

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    Ricky says:

    Guys, the GOP has a pitiful record on race.
    That being said, how’s about a list of just a few of those “many”, Oliver?

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    jeff says:

    Sav, you can add Al Gore, Sr to your list along with Byrd and Fulbright.

    Maybe i give Oliver too much credit in that i keep expecting him to show himself as anything other than a clueless, partisan hack who just drinks the DNC kool-aid, but I really thought on this one he’d say that Bond was out of line.

    Instead, he A) attacks the source and B)pulls his usual BS about “you guys are worse”.

  13. 13
    Mason says:

    Rather than let my temper get the best of me, I’ll wonder again why you pay *any* attention to the likes of Oliver. Race-baiters aren’t worth the time. Like (Red) Kryptonite to Stupid, indeed.

  14. 14
    Jay says:

    Once again Oliver says a story is bogus simply because of the source.

    How many times are you going to try that weak ass shit?

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    Oliver says:

    Jay, if that source constantly sends out false information – and I have no other source to back up what they’re saying – its crap. In the past, I’ve pointed out items from orgs like the Moonie Times, because even though they spin it the facts are verifiable. That isnt the case in this incident.

    Trent Lott was the leader of the GOP in the Senate, and even after his remarks was supported by many.

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    Rick says:

    “Trent Lott ***was*** the leader of the GOP in the Senate…”

    Got his wings clipped, though, didn’t he? There’s the difference:
    the Democrats have praised and promoted their bigots.

    Real nice party–Jeff Davis and Jim Crow is in the genes.

    Cordially…

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    Ricky says:

    President pro tempe of the senate at the time: Robert Byrd.

    Where’s that list of “many”?

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    jeff says:

    And one other thing: When in the living hell is the NAACP gonna be stripped of their tax-exempt status?

    How can anyone, other than Oliver and other kool-aid drinkers, even argue with a straight face that it’s a non-partisan organization?

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    Bret says:

    “…don’t you find it a little odd that Mfume’s comments are being this spun this way only by CNSNews”

    Yes indeed, it is odd that the conserative media bias is showing thru so brightly as none of the networks pick up on things that make a liberal organization look bad.

    “…until I see a transcript from a real news source – I really have no idea what was said or the context of it.”

    Here’s a transcript from the conference itself – straight from the source. Good luck finding context that would have made these comments appropriate.

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    John Cole says:

    “How can anyone, other than Oliver and other kool-aid drinkers, even argue with a straight face that it’s a non-partisan organization?”

    They won’t even try- they will just call you a racist and move on to another topic.

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    Ricky says:

    Thx for the link, Bret.
    Maybe it meets the David Brock level of believability.

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    Oliver says:

    Now that I’ve seen the comments in context, and not spliced up by the Heritage crowd, I still don’t see where it strays much from reality. Yes, there is a good amount of political rhetoric, but there’s no disputing the fact that the GOP has been the playground of bigots for some time now.

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    John Cole says:

    Bravo, Oliver. I could use your posts as exampes in a book on logical fallacies.

    1.) Argument ad hominem:An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting).

    Oliver’s Sterling Example: “John, don’t you find it a little odd that Mfume’s comments are being this spun this way only by CNSNews (an arm of the Bozell-run Media Research Center, and sucking from the same well of Newsmax) and being amplified (surprise, surprise) by Rush “orificers” Limbaugh?”

    2.) Appeal to Belief: Appeal to Belief is a fallacy that has this general pattern:

    Most people believe that a claim, X, is true.
    Therefore X is true.
    This line of “reasoning” is fallacious because the fact that many people believe a claim does not, in general, serve as evidence that the claim is true.

    Oliver’s Example: “Yes, there is a good amount of political rhetoric, but there’s no disputing the fact that the GOP has been the playground of bigots for some time now.”

    ** This was also close to an appeal to popularity **

    3.) Red Herring- A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to “win” an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of “reasoning” has the following form:

    Topic A is under discussion.
    Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
    Topic A is abandoned.
    This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.

    Oliver’s Example: “Trent Lott was the leader of the GOP in the Senate, and even after his remarks was supported by many.”

    4.) Biased Sample-This fallacy is committed when a person draws a conclusion about a population based on a sample that is biased or prejudiced in some manner. It has the following form:

    Sample S, which is biased, is taken from population P.
    Conclusion C is drawn about Population P based on S.

    Oliver’s Example- And Fututor, its glad to see that Neal Boortz isn’t the only liar on the right.

    Oliver chooses a few people he has determined are liars and racists, and then states the entire party is.

    5.) Appeal to The Consequences of a Belief- The Appeal to the Consequences of a Belief is a fallacy that comes in the following patterns:

    X is true because if people did not accept X as being true then there would be negative consequences.

    X is false because if people did not accept X as being false, then there would be negative consequences.

    Oliver’s Example: And to ignore the Republicans legacy (and ongoing strategy) of appealling to the most base racist beliefs is just intellectual dishonesty on your part.

    Thanks for playing. I think you may have squeezed in one statement in this entire thread that is not utter nonsense.

  24. 24
    Rick says:

    “…but there’s no disputing the fact that the GOP has been the playground of bigots for some time now.”

    But it’s not a fact. So doesn’t that mean there’s a dispute.

    Cordially…

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    Ricky says:

    Oliver, maybe you can ask David Brock for some of the names of the “many” that you’re running from as fast as you can.

    Next time, be more careful.

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    Ken hahn says:

    Oliver cannot admit Bond’s remarks were offensive. He’s a Democrat. To actually apply judgement to any statement by Julian Bond, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or other “leader” of a minority group is not allowed. This would be apostacy and would get him excomunicated.

  27. 27
    Oliver says:

    Except that I’ve slammed Sharpton/Jackson numerous times, but don’t let the facts get in the way of your rhetoric.

    So you want to speak about the racism of the GOP?

    – the constant refrain from Gingrich, Reagan, etc. about “welfare mothers”

    – George Bush curying favor with the segregationists at Bob Jones U, fighting against affirmative action – even though the two black members of his cabinet were in favor

    – Don’t be fooled by Lott’s removal – had he been more compliant with Bush’s agenda, the GOP would have gone along defending the racist

    The factual legacy of CNSNews is poor at best, and their spin on this story proves it once again. They just aren’t a legit news source.

  28. 28
    Chris Muir says:

    Here’s another nice one from The Village Voice-Michael Feingold:”Tarnation, indivisible
    (photo: Paula Court)

    King Cowboy Rufus Rules the Universe
    By Richard Foreman
    Ontological Theatre at St. Mark’s
    131 East 10th Street
    212.533.4650

    o U.S. president, I expect, will ever appoint a Secretary of the Imagination. But if such a cabinet post ever were created, and Richard Foreman weren’t immediately appointed to it, you’d know that the Republicans were in power. Republicans don’t believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Republicans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don’t give a hoot about human beings, either can’t or won’t. Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm.”

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    Chris Muir says:

    Sorry-someday I’ll learn how to paste.

    Article in the Village Voice by Michael Feingold:

    “No U.S. president, I expect, will ever appoint a Secretary of the Imagination. But if such a cabinet post ever were created, and Richard Foreman weren’t immediately appointed to it, you’d know that the Republicans were in power. Republicans don’t believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Republicans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don’t give a hoot about human beings, either can’t or won’t. Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm.”

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    Crhis Washington says:

    Republicans believe people are eqaual. Democrats believe blacks are victims of society, and they can’t do anything in life without them as a crutch. Democrats used the KKK to successfully end reconstructtion in the south. Democrats defeated Reconstruction in the end and on its ruins created Jim Crow. Woodrow Wilson was a Democrat racist that later included the likes of William Fulbright of Arkansas, Sam Ervin of North Carolina, and Albert Gore, father of Al, of Tennessee. Also why were democrats against passing a anti lynching bill? If it wasn’t for republicans, the civil right bills of 1964 and 1965 wouldn’t have past. 21 democrats didn’t even think it was important to vote on it. But thats in the past right? Why did the “reformed” Robert Byrd call a white person ” a white ******” in 2001? Democrats social programs have damaged the black community especially in the inner citys such as Baltimore, Philedphia, Detroit, Richmond . Drug abuse, violent crime, broken familys, immoral behavior, and flat out poverty is all linked to the failure of social programs. Whats the democrats motto”Keep them down, Keep them dependent, and keep them voting democrat.

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    Charming Fellow

    John Cole has a special note about recent prominent hate speech that’s quite worth contemplating….

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