Conservatives have been flogging the living shit out of a recent piece by Jim Manzi (not the Lotus guy but another Jim Manzi) in National Affairs. Bobo named it one of his essays of the year, and Chunky Bobo devoted a whole column to it.
I was thinking of reading it but, honestly, I just don’t trust conservatives enough to believe that they are reporting economic numbers properly. And I wasn’t impressed with Manzi’s pieces on climate change at NRO (they were pretty reasonable as NRO pieces go, but they weren’t very convincing).
Well, here’s Manzi on Europe from his vaunted National Affairs piece:
From 1980 through today, America’s share of global output has been constant at about 21%. Europe’s share, meanwhile, has been collapsing in the face of global competition — going from a little less than 40% of global production in the 1970s to about 25% today. Opting for social democracy instead of innovative capitalism, Europe has ceded this share to China (predominantly), India, and the rest of the developing world.
And here’s Kthug:
But as Jonathan Chait quickly pointed out, Manzi’s definition of Europe included the Soviet bloc (!), so that he was attributing to social democracy an economic decline that was mainly about the collapse of communism. Chait also suggested that Manzi wasn’t comparing the same dates for America and Europe; and most importantly, Chait pointed out that to the extent there has been a growth divergence, it’s almost entirely because America has faster population growth; since 1980, real GDP per capita in Western Europe and the US have grown at almost the same rate.
But I went back to Manzi’s source of data, and it turns out that it’s even worse than that. If you use the broad definition of Europe, which includes the USSR, it did indeed have 40 percent of world output in the early 1970s. But that share has not fallen to 25 percent — it’s still above 30 percent.
The only thing I can think is that Manzi compared Europe including the eastern bloc in 1970 with Europe not including the east today.
Fail.
I’d be remiss if I didn’t include this Douthat gem on an earlier Manzi piece on climate change:
Everyone should read it: Conservatives will find a sensible blueprint for moving from the denialist fringe to the political mainstream, and liberals will get a taste of how a wised-up, heads-out-of-the-sand Right could kick their ass on the issue.
Update. I’m sorry if this sounds a little pissy “ha, ha conservatives suck.” I’m genuinely annoyed that I spent time gearing up to read what I thought might be a legitimately interesting conservative article only to find that it was a fraud.
Update update. Manzi responds here to Jon Chait’s criticism —I haven’t digested the first point Manzi discusses, but I don’t think I agree with the second. Perhaps Manzi will address Krugman’s criticism later.
In any case, not to sound too Andrew Sullivan about this, but it is nice to see a mostly fact-based, fairly reasonable discussion such as this.