13
Oct
Did You Ask Amy Carter and Jenna Bush, too?
I’m really sick of this infatuation with Liz Cheney. The only reason the media is paying any attention to her is because she will launch wild attacks on the current administration. She’s basically a less-attractive Sarah Palin with a more prominent lineage.
Who cares what she thinks? Aren’t there people who actually know things who you could talk to, or are you just eager to help Dick’s daughter rehab the family image?
Just Some Fuckhead
Liz Cheney is the new Dick.
Persia
Didn’t he, um, meet with one of his generals in Copenhagen?
Waynski
Clearly, name recognition has trumped actually knowing something about the topic at hand in today’s media. I’m afraid we’ll be living with asshats like her forever until and unless something is done about corporate ownership of the media.
Da Bomb
@WyldPiratd: I don’t even want to know what that would be…
Ba-Zing!
beltane
The fact that the Washington media is so enamored of the utterly repellent Cheney family tells you everything you need to know about the Washington media. Normal human beings feel their skin crawl when they see the likes of Dick, Lynn and Liz. The soul-dead talking heads on TV see kindred spirits.
Mojotron
I can save CNN a lot of trouble- Liz Cheney thinks that Bush’s foreign policy decisions made us safer, Grover Norquist thinks that we need to lower taxes, John Bolton thinks the best time to bomb Iran is now, and the National Association of Realtors thinks that there’s never been a better time to buy a house.
Zifnab
You’re clearly just saying that because she’s gay.
And, in all fairness, doesn’t McCain’s daughter have a column in the Daily Beast? Your parent doesn’t even have to win elective office to get a megaphone these days.
Besides, I don’t know if you actually watched the Daily Show clip up on the site, but did it give you any impression that CNN was even remotely interested in talk to people who know things?
Ann
She’s only quoted because of her father and the completely outlandish and ugly things she say. Would that the media actually follow and quote people positively contributing to the various debates.
Ash Can
Maybe the corporate media heads are pushing her as an alternative to Sarah Palin for 2012—a female Mitt Romney, maybe his running mate. They could be a corporatist alternative to a Palin/Huckabee religious fanatic slate.
twiffer
wait, claiming the prez is basically a terrorist because we’ve stopped torturing people is image rehab?
Dreggas
@Just Some Fuckhead:
at the risk of being totally politically incorrect, shouldn’t that be “wishes she had a dick”?
djork
Mary Cheney is the gay one, not Liz.
gex
@Zifnab: Quibble: Liz is not the gay one. But it would be great if the bobbleheads would get this confused too and constantly ask her about her gay gayness and total gayosity rather than letting her blather on about policy.
celticdragon
@Zifnab:
You’re thinking of Mary Cheney.
Liz is a stand-in for Palin because she is obviously far smarter while still being able to spout fluent wingnut boilerplate.
WyldPiratd
dang…I got moderated. Who would have thought that the word crotch in conjunction with Liz Cheney and her conception and and other assorted nastiness would get a comment canned here?
Didn’t think I had it in me. ;)
Colette
Senate Finance Committee OKs health plan.
Let the recriminations begin.
Uli Kunkel
The news media needs a conflict, even when one side of it is ridiculous. That said, however ridiculous her views, Liz Cheney is very, very effective at clobbering opponents with them.
I would pay to see Cheney and [url=http://www.youtube.com/results?q=cliff%20schecter&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=w1]Cliff Schecter[/url] go at it.
Zifnab
@Colette: If this doesn’t prove that the Democrats are worse, I don’t know what does.
cleek
in the 1700’s, we called them “courtiers”.
JK
Meet the new Dick, same as the old Dick (only more telegenic).
Uli Kunkel
The news media needs a conflict, even when one side of it is ridiculous. That said, however ridiculous her views, Liz Cheney is very, very effective at clobbering opponents with them.
I would pay to see Cheney and Cliff Schecter] go at it.
Napoleon
In fairness I am sure the next time that CNN has Liz on they will follow it up with a segment fact checking Elmo from Sesame Street.
Makewi
A WyldPiratd memory hole incident?
Joe M
@gex: I always laugh when I see that SNL skit where Amy Poehler and Tina Fey play the Bush twins drunk after the inauguration and Amy goes “Barbara, I was so drunk, I made out with Dick Cheney’s daughter!” and when Tina goes “Jenna!”, Amy is all “What?!? Not the gay one!”
JK
Liz Cheney is Dick 2.0
kay
I’ve come to hate the phrase “keep America safe”. Any of the derivatives, “keeping, etc.” Figures a Cheney made it into a logo.
It’s so clearly marketing, and such a disrespectful pander to voter’s base fears, and such a babyish, condescending lie.
I hope media continue to promote her and she runs for President. She’d be fun to beat.
She can take that phrase with her. It sums up all the fear-mongering and infantile pandering of the Bush Era. Put it over there with “family values” in the used-up scare-tactic pile.
Captain K
This is just such a useful quote. For Liz especially.
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (John 8:44)
ricky
I believe your title should refer to Corinne Quayle or Karenna Gore.
Redshirt
Maybe the Old Ones are getting everything ready for the Dark Lord (Symbiote) to transfer from Its current host (Dick) to the new and groomed host (Liz). The clue will be when Liz starts sporting the tell-tale sneer. That’s the Dark Lord!
Stooleo
I wouldn’t fuck Liz Cheney’s dick with Andrew Sullivan’s twat.
Violet
Maybe Dick is paying them to promote Liz in some misguided attempt to rehab his image.
Liz is Dick’s daughter – she probably knows the dirt on all the media bobbleheads. One knowing look and insinuating comment and they book her on their shows, pronto.
Martin
Man, I wonder what kind of bedtimes stories were told in that household…
cat48
Just what the people voted for on election day—more Bush foreign policy. NOT The media just loves anyone who will attack Obama. I think her group should visit a black site. Maybe the Prez can arrange that.
Tom Betz
Don’t forget that Liz was Dick’s mole in the State Department for several years.
In 2002, Liz was appointed to the “vacant” position of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern [Middle-Eastern] Affairs. In 2005, after taking time off from the State Department to work on her father’s re-election, she was named Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State For Near Eastern Affairs. In 2006, Liz became the head of the State Department Iran Syria Policy and Operations Group.
On a personal note for Liz, what makes all of this even more incestuous in terms of who knew and did what and when, Liz is married to one Philip Perry, who served in the Bush/Cheney administration as the General Counsel of the United States Department of Homeland Security.
So it strains the credibility of Liz’s media “defense of Dad” tour when you know that she was a player in Middle Eastern policy, and likely spoke frequently with her father about issues relating to that region and what he was up to—and that the issue of what she also knew and when she knew it is relevant in judging her believability, although not necessarily criminal on her part.
Tom Betz
Frickin’ broken blockquote!
Ash
I sometimes feel bad for her, since her father is a sociopath and everything and one of the worst human beings in the world. She probably doesn’t know what it’s like to feel human emotions.
But then she talks and I wish someone would just throw a shoe at her face.
slag
@JK: Exactly. The media has had a long-distance love affair with Dick for such a long time. And he just won’t get close enough to satisfy them. So, they settle. Sure, Liz bares her canines a bit less than they’d like and actually lives above ground, but she’s more accessible. And they can always fantasize in their free time.
licensed to kill time
@Violet:
You know, after The Dick kind of vanished from the airwaves recently, I figured it was because he’d gotten butt pucker wrt the torture investigation. Now I wonder if he wasn’t setting the stage for The Liz all along – I think the family has plans for her political future. FSM help us all.
kay
@Uli Kunkel:
I don’t think she’s effective. She sneers, she narrows her eyes, she waves her hand, she does everything but roll her eyes. She treats her opponent with contempt.
She talks over the other side, she assumes broad public authority on a range of issues with the general public when she hasn’t earned any, she’s a sneering bully, and she lies a lot.
That’s not “effective” when regular people who don’t know one thing about her are watching. It’s arrogant. She started with the assumption that she had “credibility”, because she lives in a freaking bubble.
I hope they keep rolling her out. It’s going well, from where I’m sitting.
Ron Beasley
The media loves psychopaths and she is just as much a psychopath as her father.
Redshirt
Given the successful roll out of the new GOP site today, I say let them keep rolling out “new products”. It’s clear – or should be by now – their clueless, and madly flailing for any idea, anything at all, on which to base their attacks. Liz is as good a product as any other they have (i.e. they all suck), so have it, Liz. Please, do tell, based on your awesome experience, how afraid I should be?
Corner Stone
@WyldPiratd:
That’s what she said!
Death Panel Truck
I believe you answered your own question there, John.
srv
What Ash Can said. She’s got the torture vote locked up, they just need a male airhead to run at the top of the ticket.
Corner Stone
@kay: IOW, she’s the quintessential GOP candidate for the House in a deep Red District, the Senate in whatever state her coffin currently resides.
Death Panel Truck
@Corner Stone:
What are you, in the fourth grade?
Corner Stone
But it’s noticeable how her handlers have tried to soften her image recently.
And I don’t mean her ideological image, but her physical appearance. She’s wearing her hair longer and it frames her face more than before. The makeup application has changed subtly as well.
*I’m just observant.
kay
@srv:
Obama probably loves her. Every time she appears and starts threatening Americans with dire scenarios his poll numbers go up.
“Keep me safe”, indeed. We must never, ever give Liz Cheney access to an army. That would be dangerous.
Corner Stone
@Death Panel Truck: Ninth grade actually. Or whatever grade it is that 13 year olds attend nowadays.
Midnight Marauder
@Death Panel Truck:
No matter the grade, that was a good one. Very well done all around.
Corner Stone
Almost 50 comments and no one has yet mentioned the fact that Liz formed “Keep America Safe” along with William Kristol??
With these two running the org I can’t believe we’re all not screaming and running for the Exit sign. How are we all not dead by now?
kay
@Corner Stone:
I think she’s running for Secretary of State in a GOP Administration.
No matter. Whatever she’s running for, she mustn’t win. Can’t have that.
Egypt Steve
I don’t think Liz helps the family image at all, and I’m glad she’s on TV.
Her unsublimated Electra complex is creepy and obvious as hell. All you have to do is watch her for about 30 seconds to realize just how psychotic/neurotic the whole previous gang was. Remember Condoleeza “My Husband the President” Rice?
More, please.
kay
@Corner Stone:
I did. That phrase makes me crazy.
I’m glad though. I think the neoconservatives squeezed all the juice out of that scare tactic. I’m glad they think it’s 2003. Glory days, right?
calipygian
Actually, I think the example is Kristin Gore, who used to be a writer on Futurama. So at least Kristin would be funny.
Origuy
@srv:
Rick Perry! He’s tanned, Texan, and loves to pull the switch, guilty or not!
Irony Abounds
The news media is hopeless in this country, absolutely hopeless. Jon Stewart’s take on CNN in your prior thread was so dead on that while it was hilarious it was also painfully sad. When you combine that with the dredges in Washington from both sides of aisle who would rather ratfuck everyone in the country if it means retaining power, well, it becomes difficult to see how even reasoned moderate progress on any important issue is almost impossible. This doesn’t necessarily mean we are on the cusp of an authoritarian state, but chaotic governance such as they have in Italy would be my bet.
Corner Stone
@kay:
I also found this one useful:
And where there’s fear there’s fundraising opportunity!
Corner Stone
@Origuy:
The more unguilty the better! It gets his rocks tingling. As the thrillacious idea of it does for all true Texans.
moby
Am I the only one who thinks “what’s Tonya Harding doing on the news?” whenever Liz Cheney makes an appearance?
Nellcote
@Corner Stone:
Being “advised” by Michael Goldfarb.
So is this new group a seperate money-making scam from the consulting company she set up with Daddy Dick and Mary?
kay
@Corner Stone:
He’s such a liar. It’s not “clear” at all that there’s grassroots “concern” out there.
Yeah. William Kristol is going to get 5 and 10 dollar donations based on his position on foreign policy. He can’t even articulate his position on foreign policy. If he did, people would run screaming from the room.
bodacious
Said it before…....she’s a Tonya Harding ringer.
cay
must you comment on her looks, John? that is ugly, indeed.
Anne Laurie
@srv:
And Willard Romney, gods help my blood pressure, would volunteer for that slot. Great, now I’ll have nightmares for the next week. PodMormon/ChthuluSpawn 2012—the Mayans were right!
rikyrah
it’s pretty insulting that they continue to give her screentime. she’s an idiot and has no credentials, other than the last name of Cheney, and because she has the last name Cheney, she shouldn’t have any credibility at all.
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Batocchio
The woman lies about war crimes. She lied to Anderson Cooper’s face, repeatedly, and he must have figured that out afterwards. It is grossly irresponsible to give her air time, and the occasional fluff pieces are even worse.
Cliff Schecter
Re Uli Kunkel (#17) – Thanks for the vote of confidence :).
I gotta tell you, I’d pay for that opportunity…..