Cue the Warbloggers’ Heads Exploding
Via Wonkette, “Brave Army Man Sues Nobama to Avoid War”:
U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector with the intent to stall and eventually prevent an upcoming deployment to Afghanistan.In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the United States District Court, Middle District of Georgia — Cook’s California-based attorney, Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.
Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command, and that Plaintiff would thus be simultaneously unable to perform his duties in good Rule 65(b) Application for Temporary Restraining Order 22 conscience and yet be simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”
Not that I blame the man for trying to get out of going to Afghanistan, because that is not a healthful situation by any means, but—asking Orly “Alfa Birfer” Taitz to represent him in court?
And then adding the double-reverse triple-axel moonbat “Any American military action in Afghanistan constitutes a war crime” plea?
It’s as though Major Cook didn’t want anybody to like him anymore!
demkat620
Yeah, that was the only thing that caught my eye. How the hell did Orly Taitz get involved?
She’s everywhere.
Nate W.
That’s not what he said—it appears that his argument is that since the Preznit is not legitimate, therefore the operation is illegitimate and constitutes a prima facie violation of the Geneva Conventions.
Or something… I don’t want to think about it too deeply, lest my head a splode…
Dennis-SGMM
Um, Orly Taitz is a woman.
The most troubling aspect of this is how could an obvious dickhead like Stefan Frederick Cook rise to the rank of Major?
Edit: my guess is that he knew that if he went to Afghanistan one of his own men would shoot him in the back of the head.
Delia
We will have ‘sploding heads across the internets on this one. Truly, wingers and moonbats done mated and produced the feared interspecies hybrid.
General Winfield Stuck
@Dennis-SGMM:
Yup. that’s the only thing that adds up with making Major. All he would need to do is resign his commission if he didn’t want to soldier any more. Must be getting close to his 20/
Zandar
Orly Taitz playing the war crimes card on Obama?
Oh man, this is exactly like the Harlem Globetrotters teaming up with the Scooby Gang!
Hell if she got Doughy Pantload, Alan Dershowitz, Instadork and William “Dijongate” Jacobsen as Stefan Cook’s crack legal team, it would be exactly like a Laff-A-Lympics episode, only with Harvey Birdman, Attorney At Law.
General Winfield Stuck
More like devolution of ratfucking birthers.
AhabTRuler
As always, I say: ORLY?
eric
Delia: that might explain what the FOX talking head meant the other day. It all makes senswe now. Thanks
The next-to-last samurai
Many a dickhead rises to the commissioned ranks, unfortunately.
Just Some Fuckhead
Do we still shoot traitors?
Blue Raven
Can we please start using this lawsuit to replace the nonsense meme about the hot coffee suit as “dumbest lawsuit ever”? This so outstrips “coffee was so hot the woman’s genitalia took third-degree burns,” it’s in an entirely different league and defines a new level of stupid.
Delia
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Only if they’re not Republicans.
Zifnab
This time we have you for sure, Black President Man!
Oh noes! Foiled again by the fact that we are idiots! Now, race away on our jet powered birther-mobiles, that we may live to fight another day!
Were all conspiracy theory nutters this obvious? I can’t help but think the guys postulating a 2nd gunman on the Grassy Knoll and calling the moon landing a hoax had a better set of handlers.
Dennis-SGMM
@General Winfield Stuck:
We got a last-chance saluting demon LtCmdr (Navy equivalent of a major) gifted to our outfit in the Delta. We tried, as gently as possible to make him understand that insisting on military courtesy and standing in formations was a great way to get people killed. Someone blew up his motherfucking jeep at around two AM one humid morning and he pulled in his horns. I say “around two AM” because it was difficult to know precisely how long it would take the gasoline in the jeep’s underseat gas tank to melt the adhesive on the medical tape that someone wrapped around the spoon of the pin-out baseball grenade.
misc
When I first skimmed this, I assumed Cook was some random enlisted dude (no offense to enlisted dudes, I was one once).
I’m surprised this is coming from a major. His career must have bottomed out years ago.
GregB
Orly Taitz is an anagram for Oral Titzy.
Which means batshit crazy in Lebanese.
-G
freelancer
@ Ahab:
How dare you post the joke I was thinking of?! (as if this one was independent of any linear thought…)
Zifnab
@Blue Raven: We had this little bit last month. 180 degree scalding hot coffee kept deliberately hot to McDs a few cents on refills and then handed out in thin easy-spill containers to save McDs another few cents does not equal screaming “FAKE PREZDENT! FAKE PREZDENT!” in a court room setting.
The two are on the polar opposite ends of the “legitimate / wacky bullshit” lawsuit spectrum.
KRK
It’s not a matter of Taitz “getting involved” in the case. This is Taitz’s case full stop. For several months she has been trawling for someone in the military (or the parent of someone in the military) to be her plaintiff in a case like this. Cook is just her sucker.
SixStringFanatic
This ought to be the end of his military career. An officer, strike that, a fucking major, not some grunt with two chevrons on his sleeve, pulls this “Ooo, now I’m a conscientious objector” nonsense out of his ass and gives as the reason for his enlightenment the wingnutiest of wingnut gripes?? They ought to bust him down to 2nd Looey, then drum his ass out.
This CO shit really burns my ass. I’m not disputing that there are lots of folks in the world who just don’t believe in the concept of warfare, for lots of different reasons. I have no problem with those folks but hey, if you are an honest god Conscientious Objector, how about you DON’T JOIN THE FUCKING ARMY?? Or, if you absolutely, positively have to have Army service on your resume, you go in via the medical corps or chaplaincy. God, I hated the whole bunch of whiny assholes who tried to pull that shit during the first Gulf War. “B-b-b-but I just signed up for the free college money, I didn’t ever think I’d have to GO TO WAR!” And most of those pricks didn’t spend a year or so of their lives digging and refilling sandy holes in the Arabian desert, as I fervently believe they should have, but instead were separated out, nice and clean. Maybe someone should have clearly defined the term SERVICE to them before they signed the enlistment papers, hmm?
Now this, from an officer, no less. What a sad fucking insult to his uniform.
And, yes, I realize that the last decade has been quite the shit sandwich for military folks being yo-yo’d in and out of combat zones and I have all the sympathy in the world for them. But that’s not what’s happening here. This is an asshole with an oak leaf on his cap who’s supposed to be, among other things, inspiring troops under his command who has instead decided to take his marching orders from FatFuck Limbaugh. Again, what a sad fucking disgrace.
Lyle4
After watching all the episodes of Generation Kill over the last few days, I’m not longer surprised whatsoever at some of the absolute dumbfucks who manage to work their way up the ranks of the military.
mcc
O rly
John Cole
Stefan Cook has been a birther raising this sort of nonsense for months, if I am thinking of the right person. Is this the National Guard guy?
Darkrose
Someone at Wonkette made a good point: if this was really about him not wanting to fight, rather than being a batshit loon, all he had to do is say, “You know what? I really, really love the cock” and he’d be out on his ass.
shelley matheis
Naah, the most committed wingnuts will simply use this as a way to say “See, even the military is questioning Obama’s birth certificate!!”
grumpy realist
My, this should be good for some dandy legal snark from the judge. Didn’t the birthers try this schtick earlier with some other
damn foolindividual and get soundly whacked across the head for it?Mike in NC
Less filling, Taitz great!
JK
OT
One of the most worthless blog posts by Jake Tapper
If a Teleprompter Falls in the White House Does It Make a Sound?
http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit.....sound.html
This could have been written by Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. Tapper is becoming a bigger joke with each passing day.
General Winfield Stuck
Hadn’t heard of Taitz and just finished studying up. Wow. what a first degree nutter. Accusing employees at the SCOTUS of tampering with docs she submitted.
She ought to know that Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate is stapled inside Schlussel’s unmentionables, where nobody’l get near it.
Litlebritdifrnt
Today in Keyes v. Obama the judge said “you need to calm down” (to Orly) and also “you must be deaf, you aren’t listening, you are stubborn, ” us Obots had an operative in the Courtroom. We will be following the hearing in GA, no doubt expecting another Orly smackdown, it is as it is.
Just Some Fuckhead
Sometimes I too get mixed up about opposing war and not liking black folks being in charge.
JK
OT
MUST SEE TV
C-SPAN 2 is re-airing the Sotomayor hearings right now.
Jon H
@Blue Raven: “Can we please start using this lawsuit to replace the nonsense meme about the hot coffee suit as “dumbest lawsuit ever”? This so outstrips “coffee was so hot the woman’s genitalia took third-degree burns,” it’s in an entirely different league and defines a new level of stupid.”
Crazy political lawsuits can’t really be compared to personal injury lawsuits. There are many ludicrous political lawsuits, filed by self-educated crazy prisoners, paranoid schizophrenics, etc.
The thing about personal injury lawsuits that gets the wingnuts exercised is that sometimes malfeasant companies lose, and have to pay.
Crazy political lawsuits are inherently hopeless, so nobody really cares.
IndieTarheel-mobile
I am speechless. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined anyone NOT named Michele Bachmann coming up with something so utterly ridiculous.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the Turducken of fail.
Litlebritdifrnt
@John Cole:
John he is a frequent comments on freeper, if that gives you any clue.
Trinity
Wingnut everlasting.
They’ll never surprise me. They are idiocy without bounds.
shelley matheis
Just saw a quick thumbnail pic of her when I googled her name.
She looks a LOT like that lawyer that defended the Menedez brothers
Jon H
TAITZ!
OR GTFO
Steve V
I’d actually like to see this lawsuit reach the merits on the birth certificate issue. Any court in the country would accept the “certificate of live birth” as proof that Obama’s a natural-born U.S. citizen and put an end to this (although of course it wouldn’t put an end to the freeper nonsense).
donovong
“Many a dickhead rises to the commissioned ranks, unfortunately.”
As I remember, a significant proportion of the population above the rank of Captain was populated with dickheads. Must be the rarified atmosphere at the higher ranks.
AhabTRuler
or the Air Force.
What, I’m just sayin’ what everyone’s thinking!
arguingwithsignposts
@Dennis-SGMM:
honestly, I can’t say I blame them. Sh*t like that will get people killed. when you’re getting fired at all the time, the normal rules don’t apply, and the normal psychology doesn’t apply either.
To the topic of the post: what a dick. Lots of people with families have paid up and done their duty during the two extraneous wars we’re in now – over 4,000 of them never to return. This is not a “conscientious objector.” he’s a chickenhawk.
John Cole
This does pose sort of a wingnut siberian dilemma for the rightbloggers. Do you call the guy a coward and a traitor, accidentally defending Obama? Or do you agree with him, and run the risk of subverting out military operation.
It will be interesting to see the choice they make.
Martin
That was my first thought as well.
I like to think of birthers as folks with ovens in their backyard who reduce the whole of an individual to the magnitude of their armpit hair and all of human economics to the production of tractors. I can’t imagine serving in combat under such a person.
General Winfield Stuck
or the Air Force.
Now Now, let’s not disparage the Air Farce
Violet
@John Cole:
Yeah, no kidding. It’s kind of a tough choice for the wingnut crew. Guess I’d better go check my popcorn supply.
4tehlulz
I’m thinking they’ll go with the doublethink option.
General Winfield Stuck
@John Cole:
They will do what they always do. Split that baby and throw both halves out with holy than thou water.
JK
@John Cole:
I’m waiting for the response from raving lunatic Alan Keyes. He got the ball rolling on this nonsense
“Is Obama President of the United States?” – Keyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkMfToY9Pk
Litlebritdifrnt
@Steve V:
Me too, I would also like the Judge to rule “a child born on US soil is an NBC, regardless of the status of the parents” to dispense with this whole “his father was not a citizen therefore neither is he” bullshit, I just wish some judge with some savvy would say “okay you do not have standing, but for the sake of argument I am going to say you do, having said that your entire argument is bullshit” kind of thing.
RedKitten
HELMET: Who made that man a gunner?
MAJOR: I did, sir. He’s my cousin.
HELMET: Who is he?
SANDURZ: He’s an Asshole, sir.
HELMET: I know that. What’s his name?
SANDURZ: That is his name, sir. Asshole, Major Asshole.
HELMET: And his cousin?
SANDURZ: He’s an Asshole, too, sir. Gunner’s-mate, 1st Class, Philip Asshole.
HELMET: How many Assholes we got on this ship, anyhow?
ALL: Yo!
HELMET: I knew it. I’m surrounded by Assholes. Keep firing, Assholes.
Tonal Crow
This might be BJ’s best find ever. I cannot wait to see what Rushbo The Size-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXL Drama Queen will program his sheeple to say about this.
Steve V
@Litlebritdifrnt:
I’m with you. A court could reach it on the merits without Obama needing to engage in discovery. The COLB is judicially noticeable. The “father’s from Africa” argument is a pure legal argument. Would be bonus if the judge is a Reagan or GWB appointee.
Zifnab
@Litlebritdifrnt:
It’s like the god-damn primordial ooze of crazy-ass-stupid down there isn’t it? Every time lightning strikes, we get to see a new species of wingnut rise from the depths.
Birthers, abortion-clinic bombers, anti-Semitic ex-Nazo lone gunmen. Freak’n monster of the week.
@John Cole:
No it doesn’t. They’ve been embracing cognitive dissonance since the Clinton Era, when serial adulterers were prosecuting the President for infidelity. Hell, you can probably date it back to Nixon if you’re not feeling lazy.
Wingnuts will cheer the brave man in uniform with the balls to stick in the meat grinder. It’s the military and the courts that will bare the brunt of the pain, as everyone gets to figure out how much slack to cut this guy without triggering an avalanche of further stupidity.
Litlebritdifrnt
PS) for this entire thing go to politijab.com and register, I know its a pain, but it is worth it believe me, we have a bunch of lawyers over there giving their opinions on this entire birfer bullshit, it is enlightening and informing. We will be “live” blogging the next Orly smackdown on July 16, 2009, we may even have boots on the ground in the courtroom (as we did today for Orly’s most recent “you must be deaf” admonition from the Judge.) Come and join us!
DaBomb
@IndieTarheel-mobile: More like the “New Coke” of fail. This is TEH BIG EPIC FAIL of all fails.
demimondian
@AhabTRuler: Nah—that’s only if you want to avoid combat completely.
JK
OT WTF
Larry King is still talking about Michael Jackson’s death. Fuck you Larry and your worthless, bullshit tv show.
Hammy
On the Rachel Maddow show just now, she was interviewing Sen. Whitehouse and he spoke about “President Cheney” ordering the secret CIA program to be kept secret. I wonder if the “President Cheney” was a slip of the tongue or an indication of Congress understanding who really was in charge.
KP
Country. First.
Charity
@Nate W.:
Awesome, let’s bring all the soldiers home then.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
Orly? Sorry, couldn’t help it. ;)
Is he a wingbat or a moonnut?
AhabTRuler
@JK: As one of my co-workers said in reference to Woof Blitzer: “If they pay you that much money to host the show, you talk about whatever bullshit they want!”
eemom
long ago, as a young law student naif, I once protested to a professor: “But there must be SOME arguments so dumb that NO lawyer would actually MAKE them—aren’t there?”
My classmates snickered. The prof, a humorless type, answered blankly, “No. There aren’t.”
Then, there was another professor—a wittier one—who used to note frequently and matter-of-factly in his lectures, just sort of in passing, that “people are sheep.” I found that offensive, so on my final exam I wrote, in a context I can’t recall, that “people are not invariably sheep.”
I got a good grade on the exam, but I can’t count the number of times over the years I’ve regretted my own words and wished to tell that wise man how right he was.
A sad world, so it is.
PurpleGirl
I did a quick Google, Grumpy Realist. There have been several such suits it seems. One which was dismissed as frivolous (March 2009) was brought by Gregory S. Hollister against Barry Soetero (hmmmm). The court even brought out that it was actually an action by Philip J. Berg.
Opening graph of the decision: This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do. Even in its relatively short life the case has excited the blogosphere and the conspiracy theorists. The right thing to do is to bring it to an early end.
Another suit has been filed by Charles F. Kerchner also claiming the commander in chief problem. Kerchner is a retired Navy officer; his lawyer is Mario Apuzzo.
Taitz is also involved with a suit brought by a Lt. Easterling in February 2009. Easterling supposedly was on active duty in Iraq. Again, the commander in chief thing.
They just can’t, can’t give up. Oh, and in my search I passed by Pam “Atlas Shrugs” ’s place and she’s claiming that various documents about the birth certificate have been scrubbed from the web.
Pass the pop corn, please. (But really this is getting old and stale.)
El Cid
You’d sort of like to say something sophisticated, but what comes to mind is, god, man, these people are fucked up.
Mike in NC
Maybe Jacko was the son poor Larry never had. Too busy swapping out wives, maybe?
Cat Lady
Just a reminder, we’re only six months into the crazy, and the crazies haven’t turned on each other yet. Beware, wingularity is nigh. There might be something to that 2012 thing.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
Not that this invalidates your larger point, but you might want to read the Gen Kill book after watching the DVDs.
IIRC when watching Gen Kill there were some things that didn’t make it into the film version that were rather relevant to understanding the interactions between the Recon Marines and their officers, for example that the latter normally would not deploy into the field with the squads under them and OIF was very unusual in that regard. Also in the afterword to the most recent version of the book Evan Wright wrote that one of the screwup officers from OIF (I think it was “Casey Kasem” but I could have that wrong) when he returned for his 2nd tour of duty came to be highly regarded by his men for his effectiveness during the 1st battle of Fallujah. So the DVDs can be a little bit misleading if interpreted in isolation from the book.
Also, not all war memoirs are 100 percent unvarnished truth, to put it mildly – see Paul Fussell’s “The Great War and Modern Memory” for an extended explication of just how strong of an influence deeply entrenched literary archetypes and narrative conventions can have on even somebody who is trying their best to tell it like it was. I’ve been wondering ever since I first read Gen Kill how much of those same influences made their way into Evan Wright’s writing.
Chuck
It’s not @SixStringFanatic:
It’s not just his sudden conversion to conscientious objector that’s going to ruin him. He is publicly denouncing his Commander In Chief as illegitimate. Calling that gross insubordination is an understatement at the very least.
He’s going to find himself court-martialed the instant his suit is thrown out.
SIA aka ScreamingInAtlanta
Looks like Major cook is yet another fascinating newsmaker from my home state. Makes ya proud.
Bostondreams
Um, isn’t she actually just a dentist with a law degree? Or am I thinking of someone else?
JK
@AhabTRuler:
I know, but it’s just so damn ridiculous. They’re trying to turn this into a conspiracy like the JFK assassination. I don’t give a damn how Michael Jackson died. Whatever the circumstances, he’s still fucking dead and CNN can’t change that fact.
I wish CNN had more concern for their reputation than for their bottom line. They’re acting like a bunch of fucking whores. When Fox News Channel is doing hard news while CNN is discussing Michael Jackson, it’s time for CNN to go out of business.
El Cid
The British series Occupation, about Iraq, kicks ass. It’s a 3 part series, and it doesn’t fuck around.
4jkb4ia
OT: I can watch this “Home Run Derby” on mlb.com. The stadium looks gorgeous.
AhabTRuler
I’ve pimped this book on this blog before, so I’ll heartily endorse here. An absolutely crucial book.
KRK
@Bostondreams:
Yeah, that’s her. But she’s just a dentist with a law degree from an online, non-accredited law “school”.
AhabTRuler
@JK: Nope, CNN has it’s niche wrapped up: It is the soap opera of 24-hour news channels. It’s turned into a three-ring circus, and they are doubling down. And that doesn’t count the parts when Nancy Grace is on and the program has all the charm of a public lynching.
Ella in NM
OMG… Last fall, before the election, my son accepted a new player on the soccer team he volunteers to coach. For an average of 15 hours a week. Into which he easily puts $500 dollars a year of his own money because many of the kids can’t afford the “luxuries” of properly fitting shin guards, shoes or season fees. The players of which he picks up and takes home from practice is approximately 50%.
The new dad, an FBI invesitgator (who reminds me of the DEA brother-in-law on “Breaking Bad”), and incidentally a transplant from Eastern New Mexico—which is actually West Texas—noticed his “Obama/Biden” sticker on his beat up 1994 Toyota.
“Obama?
What the hell is that? You’re one of those libruls? DON’T YOU WANT ANYONE TO LIKE YOU?” he asked, incredulously, with all the self-assurance of a gun tot’n, duelly-truck driving red neck under the delusion McCain-Palin was the natural choice for all sane people.
What can I say, I raised a smart kid, and he handled it well.
And after two seasons, guess who wants his kid to play for the “librul” coach who treats his kid with compassion, dignity, and respect.
Eric U.
I remember when CNN first started up they played Three Stooges movies between newscasts. They seem to have gotten tired of paying royalties and replicated the Stooges with their staff.
It really annoys that anyone over the rank of 2nd Lieutenant would be involved in a suit like this. I hope he gets busted to E-5 and made to clean out latrines for a couple of years while they lose his discharge papers over and over.
kommrade reproductive vigor
And when he gets court martialed that will be proof that the entire Army is made up of scary non-citizens!
@Bostondreams: That’s her.
Mrs. Polly (Snarkopolitan) has done some pants-wettingly funny posts on Dr. Orly Taitz, DDS, JD, PDQ, OCD, complete with art.
Mike in NC
ANY book, article, or essay by Fussell is essential reading.
demimondian
Never mind. It’s been done.
scarshapedstar
So now the birfers are anti-war.
Wow.
Maybe we can get Pat Buchanan to join the Black Panthers?
AhabTRuler
No, but he might convert to Islam and make the Hajj.
Perhaps it could expand his worldview, as it did for Malcolm X.
Delia
@scarshapedstar:
Yeah, well, remember the goopers got themselves worked up into some pretty righteous tizzies over Clinton’s interventions in Bosnia and chasing after Bin Laden and suchlike. It just wasn’t right.
Nellcote
@GregB:
Is that a euphamism?
someguy
This guy seems to be a loon, but let’s not condemn all conscientious objector’s just because this loon used conscientious objector as his excuse:
“War will exist until the distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige as the warrior does today.”—JFK
anonevent
@John Cole: They don’t recognize hypocrisy, remember? They will all side with Cook because Obama is not legal to be president, so the military should not obey him.
Eric U.
all I need to know about Republican “thought” was answered the first time I listened to Limbaugh. He totally contradicted himself in two consecutive sentences. There is no logical inconsistency that they cannot stomach as long as it suits their purpose.
The fact that this Major is trying to get out of his legal and moral responsibility by this groundless lawsuit isn’t going to phase them in the least. I don’t know why we would even consider such an outcome. However, this sort of thing is stripping off the rational republicans a few at a time.
It’s pretty disturbing that one of our national parties is imploding. I’ve always wondered how political parties really went out of existence and new ones formed in this country. We may be watching it happen again.
JMN Is Now asiangrrlMN's Official Stalker
True, but they are a special kind of “without bounds.” Much like the universe itself, they are finite, but unbounded. They keep going further and further out there, and yet return to the same idiocy over and over.
Susan Kitchens
@shelley matheis:
The defender of the Menendez Bro is not ORLY. That was Leslie Abramson. I heard a war story or two from a friend who was a Deputy DA for LA Co, and she told me about one visit or other that Leslie A had—made—to her office, on account of a case they both were on. Or else Leslie was visiting a colleague and my friend got to chat with her when they both had to go outside for a smoke.
Cassidy
@Eric U.: Uh, no….we have enough of our own problems in the NCO Corp right now. The last thing we need is this jackass.
Everyone take a moment and imagine the look on the Brigade/ Battalion Commander’s face as he was reading his morning reports and drinking coffee. I think I would’ve had paid to be there.
M. Bouffant
Humor in Uniform:
In the Air Force, it’s 4 o’clock.
In the Army, it’s 1600 hours.
In the Navy, it’s eight bells.
In the Marine Corps, Mickey’s big hand is pointing straight up & his little hand is on the four.
2th&nayle
@AhabTRuler: Might want to ease up on the Air Force a little there AhabT. Never know when you might have a old “SAC-Trained Killer” with delicate sensibilities, lurkin’ around.
“Peace is Our Profession, War is Just A Hobby” heh!
Ed Drone
I still insist that that phrase is a target prioritization list.
Ed
AlphaGeek
Sorry to burst anyone’s bubble, but the only thing that you can do to eject a commissioned officer (LT – General) from the service is to dismiss them. That has the effect of a Dishonorable Discharge (the equivalent of a Felony conviction) and the loss of all pay and allowances (i.e., retirement, veterans benefits, etc.). This is not done lightly and is rather a Big Stick.
Not that this fool does not deserve it.
MD
You are all obviously Obama Supporters and that is OK…its America and at least for now you are still sorta free to do what you want. All Obama has to do is quit hiding whatever he is hiding and show us the documents indicating he is a natural born citizen. I do not see this as too much to ask of our “President”. Most of us non-democrats base our reasoning on Facts and not on emotion so once the facts are available it won’t be an issue. The fact that no one can get to the records and that Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep them concealed indicates there is something he does not want us to know. Spouting off the typical liberal emotional outburst does not make the facts go away. If this was George W. Bush that was in question you would all be cheering him on saying what a great role model for the military and all Americans.. So what is the difference if it is Bush or Obama, it just needs to come clean.
Gurney
“Most of us non-democrats base our reasoning on Facts and not on emotion so once the facts are available it won’t be an issue.”
Really? As opposed to those of us in what The Shrubbery dismissed as ‘the reality-based community’ in 2005?
How did that work out for you all? you know, the part where you all created your own reality? Think it might have had something to do with the bright idea of selling all that worthless paper for trillions, as long as you held your Magic Feather with your nose and believed really hard?
“The fact that no one can get to the records and that Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep them concealed indicates there is something he does not want us to know.”
And the source of your factual information is . . . what? An invisible friend?