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After a long primary season, the Clinton campaign’s expenditures have far exceeded the amount of donations it has received so far, and the campaign has accumulated debt of more than $19 million, according to campaign finance reports. Much of that debt consists of unpaid salaries and bills to vendors.
When questioned about Clinton fundraisers being asked to join the Obama campaign, Ferraro told The Hill, “These are the people raising hundreds of thousands of dollars. I would hope that [Obama] would do the same thing with his fundraisers to pay off Hillary’s debt.”’
***Ferraro said she has not been asked to raise funds for the Obama campaign.
And if he doesn’t, it is just another example of reverse racism!
In other Ferraro news, go read this piece at Too Sense titled “The Limited Empathy of Joan Walsh.”
El Cid
“Yeah, um, about that, Congresswoman Ferraro, um, we think we’re good on that, so, you know, you can just relax or something.”
Just Some Fuckhead
Yeah, let’s stick African-Americans and “elite” liberals with the “Blue-Collar White People Matter More” campaign tab. Makes perfect cents.
dnA
I heard they’re going to be consulting with her regarding her expertise on those “Reagan Democrats” she seems to know so much about.
Studly Pantload
Can we just put her back in the attic for another twenty years, already?
Tom in Texas
Well, Obama is getting everything handed to him anyway. What does he need the money for?
Have her raise funds in the Amazon. I hear there’s some strong independent women there. Course they may be a little to dark for her taste.
BombIranForChrist
Geraldine was also asked why she looks the same now as she did over 20 years ago?
“Death to all humans!” shouted Ferraro, throwing a smoke bomb and escaping through space-time.
Dennis - SGMM
Geraldine Ferraro
dmsilev
She must see herself sinking back into obscurity, and is desperately trying to tread water.
Somehow, I doubt the Obama campaign will be throwing her a life preserver any time soon.
-dms
Rome Again
That a Clinton supporter would expect the debts of a millionaire’s presidential campaign be strapped on to the backs of working people who are now having difficulty paying for gas, food, their mortgage, etc… tells me all I need to know about what we could have expected from a Clinton presidency.
Rome Again
The money I sent to Obama was to help pay for a dream, not reward a nightmare.
ThymeZone
Let them eat grassroots?
Rome Again
aka Liberal Republicans.
chopper
if getting your ass kicked by someone makes you know what they know i’m a go start a fight with a kung fu master right now.
Rome Again
Do grassroots act sort of like tofu and take on the taste of whatever it graces? If someone eats grassroots with chocolate, does it taste like cake?
ThymeZone
Possibly, but like you, I don’t want to see my Obamadollars go to enrich the Clintons. That’s not what I gave them for.
passerby
ooh. excellent perspective.
T
Rome Again
Why should I (a person known to make about $12 an hour and who will never see a seven figure amount in my bank account) have to pay for the bad financial decisions of a millionaire?
Adam
Hey, I just had a crazy idea. Maybe should could have dropped out of the race before she racked up $20M in debt. It’s too bad no one saw this coming.
passerby
I haven’t decided whether or not I’d continue to give $$ to the Obama campaign if he announced that it would resolve Hillary’s campaign debt.
Especially when Millions went to Mark Penn’s overpriced lobbying firm.
I’m open to reasoned advice.
T
ThymeZone
If Obama yields money to Clinton, then he has spent that money twice over.
Once, to counteract her media buys and her costs, and a second time, to pay off the debt she incurred in order to make her buys and fund her own costs. So her opposition costs us twice as much as it cost her to provide it in the first place.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Dennis - SGMM
Look, all Clinton needs is for ten million more eleven-year-old kids to sell their bicycles and their video games and she’s home free. Cut her a break: she’s down to her last ninety million.
Just Some Fuckhead
lolz.
Welcome to America! You been doing that all yer fucking life. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
passerby
HA!!
T
Just Some Fuckhead
What the hell do kids need with bikes and video games anyway?? In my day, all we had was gangs and drugs and we learned to like it.
Chris
That Too Sense post was perfect. Walsh has turned into a concern troll, plain and simple.
Rome Again
Certainly not by choice. The financial reality is what it is, but, unless I’m ready to lay down and die, I have to do some of that through no choice of my own. I wouldn’t choose to do it if given the option though.
CT
By law, the Obama campaign can contribute no more than $2,000 to the Clinton campaign. Our money is safe from Mark Penn, no worries.
ThymeZone
Truly, the Voice of the People.
Adam
FEC rules prohibit transferring donations — not that they would do that anyway. The question is just whether Obama would advocate on her behalf to help out. (Or give her the VP slot to free up her $23M in GE funds?) I still think it’s rewarding bad behavior, but let’s be clear on what we’re talking about.
I’m still kind of baffled that we were even considering nominating a candidate who’d go into the general $20M in the hole after losing a huge financial advantage. Irresponsible. The whole issue of campaign debt got lost under the obsession with the stupid horse race.
crw
Obama can donate a maximum of $2300 to the Clinton campaign, same as any other schmuck. You don’t need to worry about your dollars being diverted.
Rome Again
Very true, but you know, “the victim” shouldn’t have to pay for her own mistakes.
Adam
FEC rules prohibit Obama paying off the Clinton’s campaign debt. That option isn’t on the table. The question is fundraising / letting her on the ticket to use her GE funds.
passerby
I wonder if Obama or DNC would let us know if/when they cave in and channel the money to her. Given the prevailing opinions here, it might result in a decrease of donations. Not good especially since both Obama and the DNC announced no $$ to be accepted from Fed Lobbyists or PACs.
T
Rome Again
Me too! But, only Republicans believe that as far as I can see.
Dennis - SGMM
Obama:
How dare he send so many ex-congress critters into unemployment?
ThymeZone
Off topic, but how the Flock does Rockefeller get off saying that we were led to war on false pretenses?
Isn’t he the intelligence guy?
Rome Again
You know, I wish they would stop calling Hilly as VP a “Dream Ticket”, it is NOT a dream ticket, it’s a nightmare of gihugic proportions.
crw
She isn’t getting on the ticket, period. There’s no way the Clintons will submit to vetting, and given the recent VF article we can be pretty sure there is a ton of dirt out there. Besides, with the recent move of the DNC to reject PAC money, I’m pretty sure Obama is going to be looking for someone who reinforces his message.
ThymeZone
I know, it was sexist of me to complain.
Rome Again
::whispers:: “Shhhh! You’re not supposed to notice that.”
ThymeZone
I just don’t get this.
If these guys can’t get it right …. what good are they?
Where were these voices in 2002?
Just Some Fuckhead
A bad dream for us, a wet dream for them.
Rome Again
Thanks for going there so I didn’t have to. ;)
Hillary Supporters = Lobbyists, LOVE IT!
Snark Based Reality
Must have happened seven or eight years ago. Me and little lady were out on this boat, you see. All alone at night. When all of the sudden, this huge creature, this giant crustacean from the – comes out of the water!
We were so scared, Lord have mercy. I jumped on the boat and I yelled “Captain! What on earth is that creature?”
It stood above us looking down on us with its big red eyes and I yelled. I said “What do you want from us monster?”
And the monster bent down and said “I need about tree fiddy.”
I said “I ain’t giving you no money, you goddam Loch Ness monster! Get your own goddam tree fiddy!”
passerby
and
Hmm. Then what is the media talking about when they say :
It’s common practice for a losing candidate’s campaign debt to be resolved. Or something to that effect.
Would the DNC be legally able to do this, the full amount, for the dem. candidate?
T
ThymeZone
So, that was Rockefellers evil twin on tv a few years ago spinning the shit for Bushwar?
Shoot me, somebody just shoot me.
Genine
That Too Sense post was awesome! This is my favorite paragraph.
LOL
Rome Again
Quivering at the sight of Bush/Cheney?
A Different JC
About Hillary’s campaign debt: if she stays in the Senate, can’t she pay off the debt with what she raises for her Senate re-election?
Keith
Obama should give a nice “Fuck you” to Ferraro by buying Dalton Hatfield a new bike & some video games instead.
Dennis - SGMM
The Clintons have swept so much dirt under the rug that guests now think they’re hiding a camel in the middle of their living room.
Rome Again
Ummm TZ? He’s a “ROCKEFELLER“, what do you expect?
passerby
Thanx Adam, That’s the piece of info I was looking for.
T
RoonieRoo
So why is everyone screaming for Obama to pay Hillary’s debt if he can’t do it by law? Am I understanding correctly that he can do it by running fundraisers for her?
If that is the case, my next question is is this typical? Historically is this what happens where the nominee helps the loser pay off their campaign debts and we just never hear about it?
The reason I’m trying to figure this out is if this is not something that usually happens and is another thing that is uniquely Hillary, I’m just plain poleaxed at the insanity of all this.
Rome Again
That’s an awesome idea, but I wonder if Dalton Hatfield would be so partisan as to not accept it?
ThymeZone
Yes, I suppose. Pretty pathetic.
Just Some Fuckhead
He’s a bottom for manly Republicans*.
*Not that there’s anything wrong with one man enjoying himself on another man’s erect penis. It’s the Republicanism that makes it a sin.
Rome Again
Well, if they aren’t, they can come clean on who their major Presidential Library donors are. Right? And then Hillary could qualify for VP.
Krista
I know. I’ve read several of her articles, but just can’t anymore. If she admitted that she’s totally pro-Clinton, I could accept it, but she pretends to be unbiased, and it’s ludicrous. I tend to just skim Salon now.
Rome Again
POTD!
wingnuts to iraq
This is ridiculous. Clinton has to pay it. You just don’t accidentally run up a $20 Million Debt.
Rome Again
Only the deluded Hillary camp thinks this is a good idea, and of course, goalpost moving is their classic MO. Rules are for fools.
johninpt
I have to come down on the side of personal responsibility on this one. As in “don’t spend money you don’t have.”
Rome Again
That was no accident, she threw money around and laughed, saying “It’s okay, Barry’s paying for it”.
Krista
That would make my fucking year.
wasabi gasp
Too bad Hillary doesn’t know 18 million people willing to kick in a buck.
Rome Again
But she DOES have it, so obviously everyone advanced credit to her, she just doesn’t want to settle up now.
Genine
Obama, 46, an Illinois senator, is barred by federal law from using his own treasury to pay off Clinton’s debts. He could host a fundraiser for the New York senator or ask some of his 1.5 million donors to help her out.
It’s not unusual for a winner to help a vanquished rival retire campaign debts. Clinton backers helped former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack after he dropped out of the race last year. And McCain’s supporters gave to Kansas Senator Sam Brownback, a failed Republican candidate.
Just Some Fuckhead
Salon always backs the establishment candidate. At Salon, that means trash everyone else. In 2004, they did hit pieces on all the candidates except Kerry. They did a piece on Kerry but it was a glamour bio. In an email back-and-forth they acknowledged to me they had done hit pieces on all the other candidates but insisted the Kerry piece was hard-hitting as well. I ask them to show me the passages where it was hard-hitting and they just kept insisting it was hard-hitting, without evidence.
I cancelled my Salon membership. Fuckers deserve to go out of business.
Jess
That would be teh AWESOME!1!
Kinda like when Michael Moore paid the medical bills of his main critic so that the critic could keep his anti-MM site going.
Krista
Is that too long to be made into a bumper sticker?
Rome Again
True, she could have come out way ahead.
Rome Again
If she was thinking about who was going to pay off her debt, she should have run a different type of campaign. Too late now to go back and change that.
Just Some Fuckhead
lol
D-Chance.
Welcome to the typical Liberal Mindset. We party, you pay (but only after we demonize and villify you).
Rome Again
I think it falls under the “If you can read this, you’re too close” factor.
If we could figure out a way to truncate it, I’d sport it on my vehicle.
Krista
Yesterday, didn’t someone mention Hillary “sitting on” 18 million voters that Obama needs to win over? Maybe she should ask them for a buck.
I’m sure Armando could even scare up $5. I mean, he’s pretty damn devoted, right?
Just Some Fuckhead
Maybe WJC could go back on Limbaugh, hat in hand..
passerby
Just a few weeks ago, the “young” Rockefeller faction of the clan attempted a coup at Exxon/Mobil (I think) in order to force the oil company to invest in renewable energies.
This wasn’t their first attempt but something’s different this year that made it more likely to succeed. Little known is that the “younger” Rockefellers don’t hold the same corporatist-type goals as the patriarchal Rocks.
Look for more of this type of 180 turns to come out, and not just from the Rocks. At first blush, what might appear as a flip-flop is actually truth telling at long last.
The US Govt. is suppressing a boat load of info regarding energy technologies, banking chicanery, and hi-tech medical therapies and they’re doing it with the help of the corporate media. Fascism. Gotta love it.
T
dr. bloor
The only thing she knows about Reagan Democrats is that they didn’t vote for her.
A Different JC
I think it’s called “shooting the moon.” As far as I can tell – trying to put rational thought into what appears to be a deranged woman’s head – her team spent money like gangbusters, and ran a scorched-earth campaign, in order to get within 2 digits of delegates of Obama (i.e. under 100, 99 would be fine, just like her 9.2 win in PA became 10 points, it works in reverse too).
With just 2-digits separating ’em, Hillary was going to pitch to the superdelegates that she *had* to take it to Denver and to force a floor-fight. Because 2 digits is just “too close.” I read yesterday (can’t find so quickly) that this was the thinking.
So the spendthrifting, the bridge-burning, was going to pay off if she could just get under 100. Then she’d claw her way to a floor fight and emerge bloody and victorious… and then pay off the debts.
This also explains the behavior of her top surrogates. This pyramid scheme was the only way they’d get paid as well. The Clintons made too many promises since 2000 to too many people – my assumption is they have a “promise debt” to go with this money debt – and so all of her surrogates needed to go along.
Its the mentality of a gambler, really. If you’re so deep in the hole, the concept of stopping is crazy because if you owe $10,000, then the next humongous bet will pay that off if you win! And when that fails, make another humongous bet. Lather, rinse, repeat.
passerby
I’ll third that.
T
Rome Again
Just the kind of person we don’t need in the White House, a gambler standing at a craps table saying “this next toss is going to make up for all I have just lost and do so much more!” Right!
I had to laugh when I was reading through Taylor Marsh last night and one of their posters was saying something along the lines of ‘just you wait until you see how many of the congressional supers announce their vote for Hillary!”
Deluded minds, all!
Just Some Fuckhead
Actually, it seems kind of an appropriate follow-up to Coward of the County.
Rome Again
Personally I think the financial ruination of this country over the last seven years is a far better example, but that’s just me.
Andrew
To this very day, that is the (kindest and) best ownagage in history.
Conservatively Liberal
Maybe Ferrarro believes as she does because she took offense at Flip Wilson using her first name for a character of his.
;)
dnA, excellent post and you touch on important issues that are being ignored. Walsh has been out of touch with reality for too long now, and I don’t understand why Salon keeps her around. I know I rarely go there any more, and some of the comments here show that I am not the only one who has wandered away from Salon.
Maybe she can each of them to send her $1.10. That will give her $19.8 million, which should pay her bills and leave enough change for her to splurge on donuts for her campaign staff.
AkaDad
In BSG terms, I fear that Obama is Adama, and Ferraro is Boomer.
Adam
Yeah, last I heard ~$4.2M of the total was owed to Penn’s firm. (BTW, conflict of interest, much?)
I’m thinking he should pony up for the greater good before anyone else does.
tBone
What are you talking about? How dare you insinuate that Armando is a Hillary supporter? He’s an Obama supporter, and he’s proved it by saying so repeatedly in a totally convincing fashion.
jake
Shorter Gerry Feroarro: Where my money at, bitch?
“I agree to the DNC’s decision not to count the FloMi primaries.”
“WAAAAAH! WHY ISN’T THE DNC COUNTING THE FloMi PRIMARIES?!”
Reality, meet Camp Clinton. Camp Clinton meet … where’d they go?
Conservatively Liberal
Moore pwned his ass with that move, and I bet it was worth every single penny to Michael. He saved the guy, and didn’t ask or expect anything in return. When it was found out that Moore had paid for it, it just made the asshole look bad.
That is a priceless contrast in philosophy.
Just Some Fuckhead
I’ll contribute to relieving HRC’s debt if she promises to let us publicly tar and feather Mark Penn.
NR
Off topic, I know, but have you seen the latest bit of political hilarity out of NY-13?
The Republican candidate’s own son is running against him as a Libertarian.
Rome Again
Correct me if I’m wrong, but, with that much information on your opponent, how can it turn into anything but a negative campaign? I predict the Libertarian will not win.
Dennis - SGMM
If Hillary just mooned it would cut global warming because at least one-third of the earth would be in shadow.
empty
I read somewhere that there are ways she can transfer the GE money to him. She can “return” the money to the donor and ask them to give it to Obama. I don’t know how common this is. As for Clinton for VP (I think a bad idea for both), via Greg Sargent here is Wolfson:
tBone
That would require enough tar to resurface a major highway, not to mention the thousands of chickens who would have to be balded. Seems like a waste of resources to me. I think we should just strap him to a carousel rig with a cheeseburger dangling just out of his reach.
Rome Again
Is that the reason why she just invited him to dinner at her home tonight?
Krista
Dennis, c’mon. You can do better than “OMG, Hilary’s got a big butt!” jokes.
Obama/Adama. Now THAT would be a dream ticket. But Adama’s Caprican, so I don’t think he’d be eligible.
empty
Nope.
Brachiator
I feel a little nervous for Obama’s food taster.
Delia
You know, over at Talk Left, they’re saying that us Obamabots don’t deserve to have Hillary as VP and that Obama should be forced to go the course without her just to teach him (and us) a lesson.
A Different JC
Eh, it’s a living.
Although, as Josey Wales says…
Tom in Texas
Best. Hairdo. Ever.
Lyle Lovett wants you to know that look was dated when he wore it 10 years ago.
Mike P
Reading that last comment, I can only think of the dead monkey on the floor in Raiders of the Lost Ark…”bad dates”.
Just Some Fuckhead
Please don’t throw us in the briar patch, B’rer Bear.
Rick Taylor
I only looked briefly, but I think some of them consequently felt Clinton was doing Obama a favor by using public pressure to get him to offer her the slot.
Dennis - SGMM
Yes, I can. My deep-seated and well-earned antagonism toward the Clintons led me to make the Commander in Chief Threshold post a few weeks ago. John has urged us to make nice. This is as nice as I can be until I see Hillary wholeheartedly campaign for Obama. The Clintons have much to be modest about.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
Sounds kinda like the Bear Stearns model of campaign finance, or the unwinding of the positions held by a badly managed hedge fund. Not that the Clintons would know anything about hedge funds.
Notorious P.A.T.
No, we don’t.
Notorious P.A.T.
L O L! They even have the same name. We gotta monitor this situation.
LanceThruster
Gerry, isn’t your “whoring” paying well enough to throw a couple of bucks Hillary’s way? Ugh!