I am watching the primary coverage for the last time for four years, and man am I relieved this is over.
Norah O’Donnell is getting more and more pregnant (and looks great), and is wearing a purple dress that has me wondering if we are going to hear “Heard It Through The GrapeVine” pumped on to the MSNBC set. Chris Matthews looks drunk, and his commentary reinforces that perception.
Right now they are talking about how much the Democrats hate each other. It is almost as if they forgot all the pledges by Republicans to vote for Hillary over McCain when he got the nod. Kill me. Kill me now.
Consider this your primary open thread.
*** Update ***
So the night Obama wins the nomination, the entire media coverage is focussed on Clinton’s brazen and successful attempt to hijack the limelight with story of her struggle and her desire to be VP. Is there really anyone who can not figure out that five months of her attempting to upstage Obama followed by perhaps 8 years of the same would be a disaster? Really? Anyone?
*** Update #2 ***
McCain’s speech is just hideous. Where is he delivering this? A retirement community?
*** Update #3 ***
I am so sick and tired of what Hillary wants and what Obama has to do to placate her. Here, Hillary, how about this- how about you walk your supporters back from the ledge, you work your ass off to elect Obama, and we re-elect you in 2012 to another term in Nita Lowey’s Senate seat where you can hang out for four more years with your BFF John McCain, whose ass we are going to kick in November, before your 2016 run for President? And if you kick Penn in the nuts, good on you.
Zifnab
THIS CAN ONLY BE GOOD FOR HILLARY!
(And bad for the Democrats!)
johninpt
Amen, brother.
wvng
Hey John,
Here I am waiting for you guys to set up a celebratory “Donate to our Nominee” thread.
With a donation button.
And waiting.
Waiting.
Laura W
OH! I thought Matthews only looked drunk ‘cuz I am drunk! Exit polls make me nauseous, at this point (unless it’s the cheap wine?), so I have to flip off Nora every time she comes on. Sadly, I also have to flip off Lou Dobbs. There is no tee vee refuge for me tonight (except for Stewart/Colbert in a few on repeat from last night. Yay.)
I just whipped off an email to Russert, for all the good it will do, and begged him: PLEASE ASK THE OTHER ANCHORS TO STOP TALKING ABOUT HILLARY! JUST FOR ONE DAMN NIGHT! IT’S NOT HER NIGHT!
Thank you, Tim,
Laura
I’m sure that will take care of the whole media-held-hostage-on-the-most-historic-and moving-and-dreamed-of-and-longed-for-and-prayed-for-night-EVER
phenomenon she is putting us all through, again, forever and ever amen.
Pass the cheap wine, please. It’s a long time till 10pm EST.
Nikki
Yup, primary is finally ovah! But don’t you think the general is going to be much worse?
Just Some Fuckhead
Oh Jesus. Please don’t let Obama take any advice from Harold Ford.
Wilfred
To me, the Democratic Party is only marginally less worthless than the Republicans but it is a wonderful thing for the Party to nominate an African-American for President and will be an even better thing for the world if Obama wins.
It’s a great historical moment and all the voters who took part in it should take a bow.
jibeaux
Misogynist.
rob!
jeebus, all the talking heads on MSNBC can talk about (even Olbermann!) is Hillary as maybe VP.
i know they have to vamp until 9pm, but Obama is inches away from THE BIGGEST POLITICAL UPSET IN AMERICAN HISTORY…why don’t we talk about that for a few minutes?
DonnaInMichigan
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do not want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama.
Have I made myself clear?
JL
I left this on the last thread, but Timmy said that McCain has to convince the electorate that he is the candidate of the American Dream. That would be the Dream to marry rich and cook excellent bbq for the media so they kiss your ass.
Ninerdave
Chris does point out something I hadn’t thought about. Obama is the first black nominee of a major political party with a shot at the presidency, not just in America, but of the whole of the western world. Pretty damn exciting.
phobos
Tim Russert covered that earlier, with those exact same words.
Jon H
You know what would totally blow the minds of all the Clinton fanatics?
If Obama got up there tonight, and said “It’s a great day when the Americans of the Democratic Party will nominate not only a black man, but a black man with a MANGINA!”
Jon H
Not that he has one.
Just, it would blow their minds.
Rome Again
and don’t forget the calls to troll the Dem sites as well.
Thank you for pointing out the Rush factor though.
Jon H
Exactly. Female heads of state are old hat. Latin America has one. Even Pakistan has had one.
The PM of Sweden has an ancestor who was African-American, but the PM looks as white as Ralph Reed.
DonnaInMichigan
I would love it if Obama, in his speech tonight, also names his Vice President Pick. And its a WOMAN!
That would blow her ever loving, “I will accept the VP Slot” Clinton….mind away.
Splitting Image
“It is almost as if they forgot all the pledges by Republicans to vote for Hillary over McCain when he got the nod.”
Don’t worry. They’ll remember them before November. McCain really does suck. He only doesn’t look horrible because he’s been getting a free pass since February.
“Kill me. Kill me now.”
And miss all the fun over the next few months?
I call 10 states for McCain. If he’s lucky.
Election Projection already has Obama up to about 290 electoral votes. It’s only going to get worse for Johnny.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
So McSame is going to push how Obama was ‘anointed by the pundits and media’? Hmmm, now that sounds familiar, where have I heard that line before? Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.
slag
Yeah. But everyone* knows he only won because he’s black.
This is actually the Obama speech people are afraid of.
*everyone = Geraldine Ferrarro, Rush Limbaugh, Harriet Christian
Just Some Fuckhead
Maybe after their grandkids explained to them what a mangina is.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Yep, Pat Buchanan got it.
The Grand Panjandrum
I particularly loved his remark that he hoped Obama was listening–and taking–Tim Russert’s advice. Any wonder that dumbfuck lost his Senate race in 06. Jesus Christ on a crutch can you kill me after you’re done with Cole?
Pat Buchanan talking about the media trashing Hillary. Can you even make up how ironic that is?
Tom in Texas
As crazy as Buchanan seems sometimes, he just nailed the “third Bush term” argument.
patroclus
It’s a very happy day! And a hopeful one for the entire planet!
Laura W
“but a black man with a MANGINA!”
Where can I send the bill for the cheap wine I just spat out all over my MacBook Pro screen?
Tom in Texas
Good lord that shot of McCain’s speech venue looked like it is the size of my apartment.
The Other Steve
What I consider Kevin Smith’s finest movie. Chasing Amy! w00T!
Mallrats was filmed very close to my house at the Eden Prairie Center shopping mall.
Bob In Pacifica
On occasion when Pat Buchanan takes off his Nazi regalia he sometimes makes sense. The problem is that there are millions of people in America who get it without all the, er, baggage.
Desmond
Let’s not get too excited people. SusanUnPC from No Quarter assures us a DEVASTATING BOMBSHELL will drop tomorrow.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Would you believe Michelle Obama raising a fist, just as she’s about to knock on a door?
slag
Agreed. And that scene was classic.
But thinking back to the days when Ben Affleck had charm and potential makes me feel old.
JL
At the top of Larry’s page is a fundraiser. Maybe the whole thing was a sham to convince the wingnuts to support his site.
Dennis - SGMM
Make sure that your work knows that you won’t be in tomorrow and then play this game: Take a drink every time a media motherfucker or a cagey politician offers advice to Obama now that he’s indisputably the nominee.
The Other Steve
Man, I should have gone to the Xcel center tonight. Although I imagine I would have had to get there early to get a seat.
SamFromUtah
Maybe the whole thing was a sham to convince the wingnuts to support his site.
If so, his schtick was much more creative than those goobers who claimed they needed tons of money because their site code was written by liberals. Or did I dream that?
Scotty
It took you this long to request this?
slag
Did Howard Fineman just say that Hillary might be responsible for preventing the nomination of the first female VP? Way to go, sista!
Just Some Fuckhead
They really need to change the name of the Listening Post to The Pulling Shit Out Of Howard Fineman’s Ass Place.
Tom in Texas
I think you can count the cheers individually when McCain speaks.
Otto Man
Yep. I guess the sister really is doing it for herself. And no one else.
McCain’s talking now. “Pundits and party leaders have determined that Obama will be my opponent.” Oh, fuck off.
The Other Steve
OH MY GOD! I opened up MSNBC’s live coverage of the polls closing, and they’ve got Yawn McCain speaking.
BOOORRRINNNGGG!
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Is McCain making a speech or reading a children’s book?
cbear
What’s the bombshell? That she and Larry Johnson like doing it doggie-style so they can both watch Sean Hannity on Fox?
Desmond
Cheers? I thought they were snores. Or maybe that was just me.
Cain
SusanUnPC will pay for her lack of video..
cain
Just Some Fuckhead
It’s like boxing where you have to watch two undercard matches before the main event.
Cain
8 more delegates to go..
cain
passerby
Why doesn’t McCain just go ahead and pick Hillary as his VP already.
T
The Other Steve
They just showed the crowd.
It’s the same person photoshopped over and over again holding a sign.
PeterJ
He’s going for the pissed off Clinton voters that threatened to vote for him. He talked about women and Clinton before that, mentioning that he has daughters.
—
Did his audiance just chant “four more years”?
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
What the hell were they trying to chant?
slag
Hillary’s gift just keeps on giving.
Desmond
I think the bombshell is that they know someone who knows someone who thinks the tape exists who knows someone who says they know someone who has seen the tape. And on the tape, Michelle Obama is in the same zip code as Louis Farrakhan. And Osama Bin Laden.
NR
And so the line of propaganda passes seamlessly from Hillary to McCain. She set it up, he knocked it down. Well played, Hillary.
Scotty
Apparently McCain’s “A LEADER WE CAN BELIEVE IN”. Is that an attack on the concept of the MUP, my friends?
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Am I the only one imagining ‘APPLAUSE’, ‘BOO’, and ‘CHANT SOMETHING OTHER THAN FOUR MORE YEARS’ signs up above McCain?
wasabi gasp
McCain gives a speech like a elementary school Thanksgiving play pilgrim gives a turkey.
Otto Man
“WE LIKE ROY! WE LIKE ROY!”
Wilfred
Hear the words of McCain:
That rascal history. What the fuck is he talking about?
NR
(Sorry, goofed on the info before)
And so the line of propaganda passes seamlessly from Hillary to McCain. She set it up, he knocked it down. Well played, Hillary.
RoonieRoo
Grumpy Code Monkey is out of town so all I have is you yahoos to hang out with. :p
I’ve managed to completely avoid having to listen or watch McCain at all this season so I have two questions for you.
1) Has he always looked this frickin’ old?
2) I swear I thought he was a better speaker than what I’m seeing tonight. What happened? Did he hire Dole’s campaign team or something?
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
newsheadlines tomorrow:
McCain promises to run as the “Change candidate” against the feckless and incompetant Democratic administration which has held power in Washington DC for the last 7 years.
Otto Man
MSNBC’s chryon:
MCCAIN: I WILL BRING THE RIGHT KIND OF CHANGE
Yes, like a kindly grandfather doling out pennies.
Except to cute little Cindy. That c#nt ladles on the make-up like a trollop.
Conservatively Liberal
I can hear the McCain speech, and it is like he is reading a book. I am thinking ‘white noise, white noise’ while listening to him drone on. He has the charisma of Joe Lieberman.
I just heard 10 people booing some line McCain dropped. Though I do agree with McCain just saying that he wants to talk with Obama about ‘the very different’ courses each of them are offering the people.
Don’t worry John, he will be talking to you real soon. Real soon.
Tom in Texas
Nah. It’s just that they all look the same anyway.
slag
I never realized before what a whiny voice McCain has. I mean really whiny. It’s true that a whiny voice is hardly a disqualifier, but after the last seven years, I would prefer a President whose speeches didn’t make me cringe.
mellowjohn
jesus fucking christ, is john w. mcsame a horrible speaker!
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
Ooooooooohhh!
nightjar
Maybe he’s suggesting a MCcain/Wiley Coyote gooper ticket.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Why is anyone afraid of someone who speaks like an elementary school principal?
Otto Man
John McCain: A Leader Who Will Talk to You Like You’re Retarded
RoonieRoo
OMG this is painful! I was actually worried the other day about McCain’s chances in the general but if this is how the man speaks, oh my.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
I love how the crowd cheers the “fear” lines of McCain’s speech.
McCains little giggle when he anticipates an applause line is funny.
Otto Man
I don’t think the crowd is booing Obama, they’re saying “Boooo-ush.”
RoonieRoo
Okay, seriously, this man does realize that the past 7 years has been under the Repubs, right? He does know this is the 2008 election not 2000? Right???
Just Some Fuckhead
Even worse is his lackluster crowd of about thirty people. They keep missing their cheering cues and can’t ever seem to chant or clap together as one.
The biggest shame of the night is that they won’t be segueing right from McCain to Obama rhapsodizing mellifluously before a crowd of 50000 energized folks.
slag
Not a good idea if he wants Hillary’s supporters. She’s gone on record as being very much against plagiarism. And that slogan is *actually* plagiarism (as opposed to that thing she didn’t like before).
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
McCain’s “that’s not change we can believe in” rejoinders are barely coherent.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
McCain is banking on ‘That’s not change we can believe in’ like he’s Reagan repeating ‘There he goes again.’
Keith
His speech pattern is a bunch of statements that sound like someone snuck in a bunch of question marks on the teleprompter with the occasional “my friends,” thrown in. Pretty hard to be worse than Bush’s “read a line of the speech and then look up to explain it in a confused-yet-folksy way” style, but leave it to McCain to come through.
handy
I am listening to this McCain speech, and it’s like a switch has instantly gone off inside my head.
There’s a new target for all my moonbatty Obot leftist anger: Saint John Hypocrite BBQ McBush.
Hillary and her campaign antics are like a distant memory to me already.
And what the hell is up with the skin on McCain’s face? What kind of freak of nature is this guy?
Tom in Texas
Well, at least he’ll be wrapping it up soon. The man can’t stay up past 9.
Lyssophobe
This is literally one of the worst political speeches I’ve witnessed in 40 years. And I didn’t think that possible, after 8 years of that simpering jackass who can’t seem to open his mouth without making up new words.
Jesus. H. Christ.
Mitt Romney is watching this in a dark room with tears streaming down his face. The guy with less charisma than rice cakes has been out-blanded by this geriatric fuck.
(And that odd smile on McSame’s face between lines is one of the creepiest things I’ve seen since Gacy in a clown costume.)
Conservatively Liberal
Shorter McCain: ‘Hello? Is anyone out there? Hey you kids, get off my lawn! Can I go home now? I’m tired and I’m ready for bed.‘
John is speaking now because he can’t stay up past his bed time to speak after Obama does. Neither can his constituents, nursing home rules ya kno.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
On and on and on and on and on…
I can already feel McCain’s favorability ratings slipping by the minute.
patroclus
This is really boring. Thankfully, they invented computer games while I “listen” to McCain…
Just Some Fuckhead
And what’s up with the green board behind him? They gonna use computer animation later to add some young folks in behind him? Maybe some billowing flags too?
wasabi gasp
McCain needs some R&B T&A MTV dancers.
Dulcie
Can someone tell McCain to quit grinning like a fool every time he thinks he scored a point on Obama? He needs to get his teeth whitened. They’re all yellow and crusty, like an old man. Oh, wait – he IS an old man!
Tom in Texas
They used to use black, but it reminded people he could drop dead of a stroke any second.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
Stay Classy, San Diego?
Conservatively Liberal
Keith Olbermann just jumped in on McCain’s speech to announce that Obama is over the top!
Gobama!
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
If Hillary really wanted the VP slot she would have started her speech early and forced the networks to bigfoot McCain by cutting away from his speech in mid-sentance.
Just Some Fuckhead
Wow.. there is the announcement. Truly an historic moment. I’m a little overcome at the moment.
catatonia
McCain, and the crowd response, reminds me of an amateur night at a Holiday Inn bar in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, with the winner getting … a free dinner at the local Applebee’s? Complete with the nervous laughter and the awkward silences before applause lines that just … don’t … quite … work. I’ve seen funeral directors with more ebullience, and junkyard temporaries with more panache.
Ha. Cut into his speech with the announcement of Obama sealing the deal. And not going back. As Tweety would say: HA!
PeterJ
Sweet, they interrupted his speech to declare that Obama is the nominee.
The Other Steve
I just added the “Long Way Round” to my netflix queue. There was a mention of Motorcycle Diaries in the comments, which got me thinking.
Motorcycle Diaries is about Che Guerva, and one of the reviewers commented on how sad it was that a man with so much promise went on to cause so much death and destruction.
I read that, and I thought.
Yeah, but he meant well. Right?
handy
Woohoo!! Olbermann just called it.
Barack has clinched it! Now it’s time to derail Bush’s candidacy for a third term.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Fred Thompson… is already sleeping.
Cain
OK folks, if we want this to count, we need to drink everytime we hear the word “change”. It’s the only way we’re going to stumble to our beds at the end of hte evening.
cain
JL
CNN and MSNBC both broke away.. No BBQ for them
Mike B.
Only since 1979.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
McCain just re-read the same lines of his speech twice.
taoless
america
fuck yeah
RoonieRoo
McCain should be thrilled they broke away cuz that speech was dreadful.
Go MUP!
Cain
THE MUP WINS IT! MUP! MUP! MUP! (I might as well start screaming Happy New Year!)
cain
phobos
MSNBC calls it. Heh. Where else but America?
mellowjohn
so i just watched john w. mcsame finish his speech and i gotta agree with lyssophobe that he has one creepy smile.
reminded me of lon chaney sr being unmasked in the silent version of “phantom of the opera’!
Dulcie
Me too. I never thought i’d see this moment in my lifetime.
Just Some Fuckhead
No way.. gonna be at work eager and early. There are a couple Clintards there I need to jack up. Been waiting too long for this too miss it.
Otto Man
Want a nice contrast? Check out the text of Obama’s speech.
Just Some Fuckhead
Ah.. I thought he was just re-emphasizing the first time but forgot to go strong.
The Commander Guy
Shorter John McCain
mellowjohn
btw, am i correct in assuming that the only african=americans in attendance were the 3 guys in the dixieland group?
bostondreams
Well, he has had some battles with skin cancer…
rob!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
Is Harold Ford on crack?
wasabi gasp
To whomever controls the trap door under Harold Ford: now.
slag
STFU Harold Ford! Powerful speech by John McCain? Could you be more ironic?
RoonieRoo
Uh did Ford just say this was the best speech McCain has ever given?
Andrew
I would consider voting for him if he did this at every single campaign event, and as President.
mellowjohn
harold ford just said on msnbc that this was “the best speech mccain has given on the campaign trail.”
as twisted sister sang, “if that’s your best your best won’t do!”
Just Some Fuckhead
The North Vietnamese broke his mouth several times, my friend.
Chris Johnson
Woohoo! I am working and don’t have TV or cable, so I’m ‘watching’ it unfold on Balloon Juice :)
When MSNBC or whoever puts up the moment on the web, somebody link me! :D
Louise
Harold Ford just said that McCain just gave the best speech of his campaign. “A Powerful Speech.”
What color is the sky in his world?
PeterJ
Please tell me that’s a joke. Otherwise it’s just sad.
Otto Man
Yeah, no idea why. Maybe he wanted people to think that “suck” is the pinnacle of McCain’s speech-making abilities.
Lyssophobe
Did Harold Ford just say that was one of McCain’s best speeches? Seriously? I’m gonna have to live through five fucking months of THAT having been the high point???
Kill me now.
Conservatively Liberal
The Magical Unity Pony for the win! Like I told the son, ‘this is history being made, and you have a front seat to watch it’. This is something for the history books, and you can bet that the rest of the world is paying attention to this.
Obama has to know everything that is riding on this, and you can bet that this weighs heavily on him. He is front and center now, and it is time to move forward to this fall. After seeing his campaign in action, I know they can do it.
Big O! Showtime! :D
Just Some Fuckhead
I can give you my Slingbox address if you want to watch it live. :)
anonymous 37
DonnaInMichigan Says:
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do NOT want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama
I do not want that beyotch on the ticket with Obama.
Have I made myself clear?
Okay, so what you’re saying — if I understand you correctly — is that you want Obama to choose Hillary Clinton as his Vice-President. I can’t say that I agree, but different strokes and all that.
Chris Johnson
Yeah, I think dissing on McCain’s smile or skin tone lacks class, none of that. As JSF said “The North Vietnamese broke his mouth several times, my friend” (POTD!)
No Hillary crap on the poor bastard. Be decent and take the extra time to explain that he shouldn’t be President for lots of perfectly honorable reasons. His LOOKS do not qualify as a fucking reason. Keep it clean.
RoonieRoo
Hahahaha…Russert:
Base vs. Base. A base of 27% or whatever the 20 number is these days. It’s shrinking fast enough I can’t keep up.
I hope Rove is right in that respect.
handy
Harold Ford is sounding REALLY concerned right now. What a freakin’ hack.
Wilfred
It was excruciating, I actually felt sorry for him.
His punchline “that’s not change we can believe in’ is like a fucking ad for Depends: We don’t buy cheaper brands because That’s not change…
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
shorter Harold Ford:
“I am John McCain’s beeeotch!”
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
It’s like Joe Scarborough has himself a “Harold Ford Puppet” and decided to talk some shit.
Andrew
Harold Ford needs to be banished to Outer Mongolia. What a whiney fucking McCain apologist. Fuck him.
mellowjohn
what the fuck is up with harold ford?!?! this is the guy some people wanted for chairman of the democratic party? he sounds like a more partisan version of karl rove!
Andrew
Andrea Mitchell looks like a combination of robot and alien.
rob!
Harold Ford didn’t know how to overcome the racist vote, Obama did, and HE’S the one giving OBAMA advice?
cd6
Short recap of what just transpired on MSNBC:
Andrea Mitchell: Hillary wants a double secret meeting with Obama but she does not want to concede or quit her campaign.
Tweety finds a nut: If they want a secret meeting, why are they announcing it through the press?
Andrea Mitchell: It’s not a press release, we uncovered this and we’re reporting it.
Andrea Mitchell, go fuck yourself. You are not a reporter, some minimum wage staff hack told you to announce this and you lapped that shit up. Go take your ugly face and shitty reporting back home and shove it.
Chris Johnson
This is our chance to resurrect the SOUL of America!
Uh, not in a ‘soul train’ kinda way, though Lord knows I’d be happy with that too :)
I mean, for much of my 40 year old life I’ve known my country was all kinds of fucked up and there never seemed to be anything coherent to do about it.
I was real wrong about that- Barack Obama obviously saw the same country as I did, but he took to the streets as a political organizer and he made stuff happen, he didn’t settle for ‘the least worst choice’.
I AM NOT TOO OLD TO BE SCHOOLED.
Nothing can take this night away, ever. We’ve seen what’s possible, there’s no going back.
zzyzx
He was also slurring a LOT of his words. It was a scary appearance.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Hillary’s last minute campaiging pays off, she just picked up South Dakota.
Andrew
If we could lock Harold Ford in a room with Andrea Mitchell, she would come out wearing his skin.
phobos
He didn’t have that many options. It boiled down to “I’m just like Bush, just not as clueless”. Given his base, where else can run?
Otto Man
Fitting, seeing how she’s been willing to have sex with Alan Greenspan.
JL
Chris, Well said..
phobos
He didn’t have that many options. It boiled down to “I’m just like Bush, just not as clueless”. Given his base, where else can he run?
cd6
I maintain that Andrea Mitchell looks like somebody nearby just opened the ark of the covenant.
Keith
Hahaha, David Gergen just said McCain’s speech was very smart/good. His only complaint was the green backdrop. This was prefaced by that guy who looks kinda like Neil Cavuto going “And what was up with McCain’s speech? It was AWFUL…it was the worst speech I’ve ever seen him give”. And basically everyone except for Gergen and McCain’s staff seem to be saying that.
McCain’s gonna wind up gambling with Shyamalan…err, I mean Bobby Jindal…to counteract the glaring perception of ancientness, but it’s gonna backfire because the guy’s 36 years old with even less experience than Obama.
rob!
doing it on a giant pile of money can be a huge turn-on, i guess.
Just Some Fuckhead
I fucking hate Harold Ford because he is a stupid triangulating DLC whore who triangulated himself right into a 2006 Senate loss. If he would have run as a Democrat instead of competing with Corker for the mouthbreather vote, we woulda had a chance to shitcan Lieberman for Lieberman.
Having said that, I’m glad it isn’t Ben Ginsburg on my TV.
mellowjohn
otto man…
gosh, thanks. i’ll be trying to get that picture out of my head all night.
bostondreams
Fixed
demimondian
He had teleprompter problems. The script said “Sen. McCain gave off a powerful stench,” but Mr. Ford couldn’t say that about a fellow Republican – even though Ford is allegedly a Democrat – so he read what he just knew it had to say.
tom.a
Harold Ford is a tool and he said he thought this was the best speech McCain has given this entire campaign season.
Cain
But you seem to have internet, you slacker! Surf to http://www.cspan.org, and watch it there live!
Your fellow BJ’er
I can’t imagine a better set of people to share this piece of american history with.
cain
Dulcie
A Harold Ford suit? *shudders*
marjo
I am really hating that McCain plus Hillary are once again double-teaming to rob Obama of this moment. I can understand why McCain is trying to do it, but now they say Hillary has won S.D., and continues to hold the nomination process hostage. I have yet to see her do the gracious and unselfish thing ONCE. Every time she is supposedly conceding a loss, she refuses to do it. Now she SAYS she is going to do everything she can for Obama, but actions speak louder than words. I have seen No Actions (and very very few words) to indicate this is anything but ALL ABOUT HILLARY.
Obama has got to take control of this situation. She cannot force his hand. Her selfishness becomes more and more clear the longer she refuses to leave the stage. Surely her stock is dropping and will continue to drop if she goes forward.
McCain says he is not Bush’s third term. Who is McCain? He is whoever and whatever he has to be at any given moment, saying anything (like HRC) to pander to the audience of the time. He has no moral compass. McCain as the change candidate is laughable.
Cain
Chris Johnson,
better hurry, dawg, hillary’s on.
cain
zzyzx
Even the corner on National Review was trashing the speech.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
OH MY GOD! The fruitcake over McCauliffe’s left shoulder is the same one from West Virginia, except he’s wearing glasses today.
Andrew
Jesus, even Malkin and the Corner admit that McCain’s speech is horrible.
Otto Man
That image has been proven to be the leading cause of erectile dysfunction in America.
Andrew
DAMN YOU ZZYZX
I blame it on Andrew +3 soon to be +7
Conservatively Liberal
Here it comes…
bago
Heh, “Missed the cue”.
cd6
I realize that Hillary is trying to steal Obama’s thunder so I will steal her thunder by using the opportunity of her speech to point out that I would enjoy doing a lot of fun sexual things to Chelsea.
El Cid
I give James Carville credit. On CNN he just said that you have to admire John McCain for managing to give a speech where he’s the youngest one in the room.
Ba dum bum.
The Other Steve
And here’s HILLARY!
phobos
Oh well. WordPress has it’s way with me again.
zzyzx
Well you broke Malkin ;)
RoonieRoo
Dammit. I’m a total mupper and Clinton has driven me batshit insane this primary but I find I’m a bit sad about this upcoming speech. She may be nuts but she’s still an amazing woman. As much as I’m ready for this to be over, I am a bit sad for her.
Just Some Fuckhead
When did Bill Clinton become hot pink? Wasn’t he white when he was President?
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
C’mon, Hillary. Let’s turn this ship against the real opponent.
Cain
WTF, can’t she for ONCE retire the fucking pant suit, and wear something feminine? Jeezus!
cain
PeterJ
Did Terry McAuliffe introduce Clinton as “The next president of the United States”?
At least that’s what I heard.
The Other Steve
I’m surprised by South Dakota going for Clinton.
Sasha
Sigh.
Predicted, but still . . . . sigh.
Conservatively Liberal
Roll troll, not here.
Napoleon
I guess Montana doesn’t count since HRC just said S.D. had the last word.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
Brown t-shirt and glasses over Hillary’s left. He’s got a bunch of buttons on his shirt.
Josh E.
Wow Hillary being cool right off the bat. Much props.
Just Some Fuckhead
Remember what I predicted about her speech in the other thread? Here it goes..
Ted
And with a women’s rights voting record that should send some of those livid ‘Will not vote for Obama!’ Hillary supporters back to Obama.
The Other Steve
Thus far Clinton’s speech sounds like she’s accepting the Nomination.
Otto Man
My wife and I just started singing “… from the New York island to the Gulf Stream waters …”
Conservatively Liberal
This is the longest I have heard her talk without asking for a donation.
Conservatively Liberal
And she mentions her website and her supporters ‘tangible’ support.
Cha-ching! ;)
Just Some Fuckhead
So far, I’m gold..
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
I have returned from hibernation for this day.
This will be hilarious
Hillbots starting NYC riot in 5… 4… 3…
WAIT, *I’M* in NYC
ahh shit.
Ed Drone
“John McPain!” “John McPain!” “John McPain!”
And it surely sounded (a) dead, and (b) just like “Four More Years!” to me.
Ed
null pointer exception
I feel kinda sad for Hillary. Yes, she ran a terrible campaign, and yes she hired terrible people but..
Oh fuck it. She’s still going on about the sham ‘popular vote’
Chris Johnson
Cain- holy crap, why would I want to watch Hillary say anything?
The Other Steve
Ohhh… this speech is not going to unify the party.
Otto Man
“you are the nurse on the second shift, … the cop on the beat … the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker …”
slag
I’m sure she’s getting what she wants off-camera.
Conservatively Liberal
Sounds like she has no intention of dropping out.
El Cid
Wow. Apparently Hillary won 270 electoral votes, so I guess she’s President now.
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
Hillary’s parting shot?
JL
Now the popular vote and the electoral vote.. She’s losing me fast.
reid
Listening to Hillary…. Well, looks like we were wrong, she won…. let’s be gracious in conceding to her.
cd6
Each vote for Hillary was a prayer for our nation, or a dream for our children.
I love that her speech keeps getting interrupted by some yellin crazies.
Andrew
Votes are a prayer for the nation? WTF? Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
RoonieRoo
This isn’t turning the way I thought it might. I’m waiting….
slag
Hillary’s staying the course.
Kathy
As CJ say’s no ragging on McCain’s looks (and yes he doesn’t look good), his looks are not reason why he shouldn’t President. However, Tweety Bird is fair game. He looked so bad I thought we were watching him in HD.
Anyway, I am thrilled about Obama, I do not want that Beyach on the ticket with Obama. Now on to more important things like hockey. GO WINGS
The Other Steve
Oops, she finally mentioned the word Unity. Maybe she’s going to bring this together after all.
Bob In Pacifica
Jeez, she’s still saying the LIE that she got the most votes. Followed by how she won the electoral votes too.
In fact, for a concession speech this is pretty fucked up. Her crowd is chanting “Yes, she will.” I don’t think she’s actually conceded yet.
I’m pouring out a drink and play my Madden 08.
Otto Man
Who’s worse? The guy in the yellow shirt with the bobbing head, or the guy in the blue shirt who touches his nose more than a coke addict with bad allergies?
handy
Hillary just talked about how her campaign has “stayed the course.”
Uhhh, Gee where have I heard that before.
TheFountainHead
If the pundits on TV don’t finally call her on this popular vote shit after this speech I’m going to start drinking straight from the bottle…
Louise
She’s laying out all the reasons she’s done better in the primaries, making sure she mentions “swing states,” etc. (“I always felt your votes were prayers” was especially good.)
So either she ends by saying she’s staying in to the convention, or she says, “even though I’m so much better, they’re going to go with the other guy.”
Gracious, she’s not.
I want to admire her, I really do. But she makes it really hard.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
“I will keep fighting for you”
not if I can help it. Get out of my state.
Andrew
If I switch over to playing Resident Evil on my Wii, I’m not sure I’ll be able to tell the difference between the zombies and Hillary supporters.
wvng
Rachel Maddow was right. She’s not going away. She’s making the case that she is the stronger candidate. That she had the most votes. That she wins the swing states.
RoonieRoo
Yellow shirt guy is definitely creeping me out more than blue shirt guy.
Just Some Fuckhead
What is up with those ‘tards that just start speaking to her like she isn’t standing up in front of 3000 people giving a speech?
zzyzx
She’s not going to resign today. However, this isn’t a bad speech at all other than the popular vote dig that took like 3 seconds. As long as she isn’t talking about fighting on to the convention and sticks to the issues, I’m fine with her. This is the candidate I used to like.
…then again I’m grateful just because she’s not McCain.
slag
Yeah….but really, Hillary…what do you want?
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
I’m liking the foreshadowing from the crowd.
“Yes she can!”
“Yes she will!”
They’re not picking up on the hint.
TheFountainHead
You can play that on a Wii???
SmilingPolitely
I can’t wait to donate to Hillary’s Democratic challenger in 2012.
Napoleon
This woman is a freaking sociopath. The Democratic Party rejecting her maybe the smartest thing its ever done.
Bruce Baugh
Swiped from a friend, as a possible slogan for McCain:
Adult Undergarments: Change you can relieve in.
marjo
HRC
please go away
She sounded the alarm on the mortgage crisis? then why did she vote for the bankruptcy bill?
zzyzx
OK the Denver chant I could live without.
RoonieRoo
What was that last bit they were chanting?
El Cid
I’m really trying to listen for the best, but, so far, I’m still kind of nervous.
Otto Man
The Hillary supporters will keep interrupting you with unintelligible shouts.
And seriously, the dude in the yellow striped shirt is apparently Lenny from “Of Mice and Men.”
Did anyone catch the panning shot of the crowd? I swear I saw Pat Benatar.
reid
This is a pointless speech at this point. Worse, considering all she’s doing is further lathering up her deluded base. She is painfully vain. Sometimes you need to step out of the spotlight, no matter how good the chanting and applause feels.
cd6
You know, I think she’s wrapping up. Hitting the issues and thanking supporters.
At this point I don’t care if she doesn’t say “Vote for Obama,” I’ll be happy if she just goes away.
The crowd chanted Denver and she just kept talking.
Here comes the money shot.
marjo
I wish she’d give that boy his bike and video games back.
Andrew
Well, see, that’s what the zombies do too.
RoonieRoo
Okay, well, I haven’t listened to her past speeches so maybe I’m just not primed. I didn’t think it was that bad of a speech or that devisive.
TheFountainHead
If the people at this rally are any indication, her supporters have become larger a mess than she can control.
phobos
That was the weirdest fucking speech I have ever seen. I don’t even want to think about the implications.
Just Some Fuckhead
.. the boy who sold his bike and video games..
.. the Russian mobsters who channeled money into Kazhakstan for an energy project that netted Bill thirty million dollars, twenty million of which I blew on pizza for the staffers..
Cain
awwww..shiit… why god.. WHY!? Why must this still go on?! The way forward Hillary is to suspend the damn campaign. Shit on a stick! I need another drink.. muthafucka! I’m goin ghetto, yo.
cain
Tom in Texas
To be fair, Ford was running in Tennessee. Let’s pray that America isn’t the same way.
PeterJ
She’s actually proud about taking money from an 11-year-old boy…
Cain
SHe gave a big fuck you to the rest when her campaign started playing “Won’t back down” by Tom Petty. heh.
Spunky.
cain
reid
RonnieRoo, it wasn’t a bad speech in general. It was a pretty lousy concession speech, though. Generally, to appear classy, you congratulate your opponent on their victory, not proclaim your imaginary credentials for having won and talk at length about what you’d do as president.
Otto Man
We should’ve seen Hillary’s speech coming.
Just Some Fuckhead
I was surprised when she didn’t run off a litany of items we could all sell to fund her campaign.
cd6
I love that Hillary is saying “I’m not making any decisions tonight.”
I got news for you, Hill. You don’t get to decide. All us democrats get to decide. And we decided already. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Sasha
Yes We Can!
The Other Steve
Ok, that was not a concession speech.
Funny… Olbermann is pointing out that Clinton’s venue has no television, nor does it have cell phone service. so nobody there knows what is happening in the real world.
Ninerdave
Was the first thing I thought of when they said it would be in the basement. No Blackberry.
Amanda
Okay your #3 update made me LOL. So spot on. And thank you for the shout out to Nita Lowey, who is awesome and a class act and who would make a MUCH better US Senator from the state of NY.
Church Lady
Does anyone but me see the irony in Keith Olbermann’s near constant bitching about Hillary sucking the oxygen out of Barack’s moment, while talking about her non-stop?
w vincentz
Yes, she didn’t make a decision tonight. Does that mean she’ll wake up at 3:00 AM when the red phone rings and make a decision at that time?
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
quoted for truth
D-Chance.
Sole entertaining moment of the night… Lanny Davis on Larry King Live trying to “soldier on” while work crews are loudly tearing down the convention hall set and wandering on-and-off camera in the background (sometimes only a few feet away). Good Lord, could CNN not find a studio or quiet corner somewhere for the poor guy? :)