“The Psycho Ex-Girlfriend of the Democratic Party” (And John even gets a mention!)
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“The Psycho Ex-Girlfriend of the Democratic Party” (And John even gets a mention!)
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John Cole
Great. Because I want to spend the next 6 months being called a sexist for something someone else wrote.
Did I do something to piss you and Will off?
Ted
Aaahh shut up Wesley.
Phoenix Woman
Hey, John: Kos shows how Hillary’s USA Today comments about how white voters are allegedly fleeing Obama aren’t just racist, but cherry-picking bullcrap. She blew off actual primary results — which show Obama getting MORE popular with white voters — in favor of a single opinion poll done May 3, BEFORE the NC and IN primaries!
Dreggas
Will Wheaton is still cute.
Josh
Ensign Dweeb has a blog?
JR
When Wes Crusher is calling you a loser, take the hint.
Jake
I agree with the psycho part. Ex-girlfriend? Not so much.
Should Know Better
I hated Wesley Crusher (although not as much as Troi) as much as the next geek but WWdN is a great blog.
Ugh
Garth: Uh-oh. Don’t look. Hillary.
Democratic Party: Where? Oh, God. I made eye contact. Psycho hose beast.
Hillary: Happy anniversary, Democratic Party.
DP: Hillary, we broke up two months ago.
H: It doesn’t mean we can’t go out.
DP: Well, it does, actually. That’s what breaking up is.
H: You going to make me the nominee tonight?
DP: No!
G: No!
H: Don’t you wanna open your present?
DP: If it’s a severed horse’s head, I’ll be very upset.
H: Open it.
DP: OK. OK. What is it?
H: It’s a Clinton general election candidate!
DP: A Clinton general election candidate?!!? Sh’yeah, great. I already got a general election candidate and had a Clinton general election candidate before. What am I going to do with another a Clinton general election candidate?
H: You don’t like it? Fine. Democratic Party, if you’re not careful, you’re gonna lose me.
DP: I lost you two months ago. Are you mental? We broke up. Get the net!
Ted
The best part about Troi was that she had a perpetual look on her face as if she were right on the verge of bursting into tears. Always. Either that, or taking a large shit.
Zifnab
PotD
wasabi gasp
Haters! You people just can’t handle the idea of a strong determined woman in office who also whips up a righteous bunny stew.
kind of an off white
Jeez, even I think that’s sexist, and I’m one of those guys who “just doesn’t get it.”
Also, that first paragraph is just fucking ridiculous. Wil’s gonna be seriously bummed when he finds out that Obama’s a human being. I’m not gonna be the one to tell him, though; I don’t wanna get rat-tailed with a rolled-up lycra jumpsuit.
r€nato
The best part about Troi were her two very large talents.
Yeah her character sucked. But c’mon… who amongst us would not have tapped that? Or, spanked it while thinking about tapping it?
Tim Fuller
Here’s something I thought you guys might like.
I made it today.
Hillary – Going Out of Business
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0oJzT9WIg
Enjoy.
r€nato
No wonder Riker had a thing for her. It’s hard to find a chick who will do that for ya. Even in the 23rd century.
bootlegger
A nice straw man here. What about those statements implies that Obama extra-human? Just having a person of color win the presidential election will be transformative, whether that person was Democrat or Limbaugh Facist. Right now many Americans believe the deck is seriously stack against them and that NO WAY IN HELL will those with skin power give it over to those with darker hues. Ditto for the rest of the world who hears all our talk about equality and democracy but believe there is NO WAY IN HELL America will elect someone named Hussein.
Presidents are not themselves transformative, they simply have too many checks on their power (not enough in the case of W though). But the symbolism of America getting over its race hate will resonate both here and abroad.
b. hussein canuckistani
So the big question is… is Wil a commenter here? If so, can he get me Nichelle Nichol’s autograph?
Yeah he’s cool again, and has a great blog, but.. Uhura, only three degrees away! I’m all tingly.
PaulW
If Hillary’s lost Wil Wheaton, she’s lost the Trekkie vote.
Oh lord, I’m flashing back to a 1992 SNL skit where the Democratic candidates are selling themselves at a Trek convention… Paul Tsongas offering himself up as a Captain Kirk… Bill Clinton going into meltdown mode because Spock was endoring Tsongas… oh man, those were great years for SNL…
Krista
You boys might as well get all this out of your systems.
I’ll be back later.
/sighs and shakes head.
PaulW
Here it is! The SNL Trekkie Candidates sketch!
srv
Since Wil apparently reads BJ, I want to say that I’m not him and never liked him.
Dreggas
I liked Marina Sertis (sp?). Of course I also heard rumor out here in Hollyweird she’s known to be incredibly kinky and gotta stick with my fellow kinksters.
Wil Wheaton
Man, this has really brought out the people who think calling me Wesley and telling me to shut up is clever. Awesome. I assume we’ll be upgrading to “your mother” jokes next?
John: I respect and admire you so much. I hope this doesn’t bring you any more grief than you usually get from the usual gang of haters.
I thought the psycho ex-girlfriend thing was hilarious because it’s about the *behavior* and not the gender. It seems like the Internets comes down to people who get that and people who are determined to read it as sexist.
As a comedy writer, I feel that the joke — which is about someone who refuses to accept that a relationship is over — works equally well if it’s a psycho ex-girlfriend or a psycho ex-boyfriend. I thought that was clear in the original post.
As for Hillary, as I said on my blog, I’ve gone from respecting her to despising her as I’ve watched her fall from a well-spoken, passionate candidate to just another lying, pandering, negative-campaigning, 9/11-exploiting fearmongering politician.
Anyway, thanks for the mention, Michael, and I’m sorry for any additional bullshit you have to deal with because of me, John.
kind of an off white
Bootlegger, Hyperbole ain’t straw. I’m reasonably sure that Wil Wheaton recognizes that Barack Obama is, in fact, a member of homo sapiens. Did you actually read the piece? I never used the b-quote thing; let’s see if I screw this up:
If that doesn’t strike you as, well, a bit much, then have fun getting let down in a year or so.
Christ, Obama’s my guy too, but he’s, well, a GUY. And being president’s a tough slog even when you’re not stuck with the bill for 8 years of clusterfuckocracy.
I just don’t think it helps him any to build a pedestal that tall (what with the distance it affords in the event of falling). Add to that, he never gave me the impression that he wanted to be put on one.
The Other Steve
Actually the joke about the psycho ex-girlfriend isn’t so much sexist as it is joking about something serious.
There are psycho ex-boyfriends too. They’re called stalkers. They can be annoying, or they can be dangerous. Either sex. Doesn’t matter.
Dreggas
Wil,
I think John was being sarcastic. Personally I thought the joke was spot on and have said Hillary is like Single White Female all over again.
Jake
Wil’s OK in my book.
Ted
I thought it was hilarious and apt as well. But man are there some sensitive people around here. Case in point, John’s metaphor yesterday of Hillary holding the Dem party hostage like in a bank robbery.
The moaning and whining about not using “violent” metaphors was ridiculous.
leinie
This would be different from every other day how?
Jeebus, dude, I get called sexist pretty much every day cuz I don’t support Clinton, and I’m a woman! Which means bonus “traitor to the gender” accusations come my way.
orogeny
Jeebus, people…I’ve made the transition, part of the MUP team now, but this kind of stuff is just embarrassing. It’s the sort of thing that turned me off to the Obama movement at the beginning.
orogeny
kind of an off white, you beat me to it.
r€nato
You mean you’ve never heard that before? It sure sounded fresh and original to me. Not obvious at all and so 15 years ago, nosiree.
John Cole
Will- it is cool, I don’t care what people say when they are clearly unhinged.
Nikki
kind of an off white,
Do you believe that people weren’t inspired by John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Franklin Roosevelt? He’s simply talking about how this man inspires him. There’s nothing wrong with that.
r€nato
If you can’t laugh at a psycho stalker ex-girlfriend joke, then you desperately need a sense-of-humor transplant.
srv
We never did compare you to the battered wife syndrome back in the day. Maybe you should use that with mxiq and p. luk.
Ted
Heads would explode if you moved the metaphor onto Fatal Attraction.
r€nato
christ there are some tender people here. My sense of humor regularly runs towards the wildly inappropriate. That’s why they call it a JOKE. It’s not meant to be serious.
Krista
And I’m sure you’ve never heard that before and aren’t tired of it in the least, huh?
Welcome to Balloon-Juice. We’re not very well-behaved, but most of us are decent sorts. John puts up with us anyway, for some weird-ass reason.
Ugh
I think one of the national political pundits already did that.
r€nato
More and more I find myself regretting that I have stuck up for her in the face of rat-wing misogyny and general loathing without any basis for it, other than transference (sp?) of Clenis hatred to Clintoris hatred.
orogeny
Gotta admit, though, the phone conversation cracked me up. “Bill is charismatic, inspiring, and gets me really good weed.” ROTFL.
Krista
I don’t think a day has yet gone by that John hasn’t had to deal with some sort of bullshit from a commenter, myself included. I haven’t figured out yet if he’s a masochist, or just so desperate for conversation that he doesn’t care. ;)
r€nato
It’s been a long, long time since many of us have been able to feel that emotion for one of our leaders/politicians… just like many of us would find it astounding to have a president who can string a coherent sentence together.
r€nato
And you are… Captain Obvious of the starship Keep Your Day Job?
b. hussein canuckistani
Krista, how can you be on the intertubes and not be a Trek fanboy/fangirl? Unless you’re a Dr. Who fan. Not that there’s anything wrong with Dr. Who, of course. But Al Gore didn’t recruit any Dr. Who cast members for the Vice Presidential Action Rangers, did he?
Everyone keep quiet about this over at hillaryis44.org. If they go nuts over the sexist word “periodically”, they’ll castrate poor Wil over his psycho ex-gf joke, and brand the word “Martyr” on all of their foreheads.
srv
I figured he was just a Canadian expat. I hear Wil is Canadian too.
Cain
Dammit, Wil stop visiting the same websites I do. :-) I have a picture of Wil and I around here somewhere when he visited OSCON a couple of years ago to pimp his new book. Sadly, we took it right after he ate a bunch of doritos..hehe.
I thougth the psycho girlfriend was apt. Although wierd because I just watched “Supernatural” the other day and it had dead girlfriends calling old boyfriends and getting them to kill themselves so that the creature masquerading as the dead girlfriend can eat their soul. ANYWAYS.. hows everyone doing?
cain
Chris
To stay on the topic that really matters, I always liked Troi. But even as a huge flaming liberal now, her presence on that show was always exhibit A for what a bizzare liberaltopia the Star Trek: Next Generation universe was.
On the bridge of the most important ship in the fleet, you had the Enterprise’s captain front and center, to his right his chief executive officer, and to his left the… ship’s therapist? What?
Ted
Anyone check out the comments over there lately, or at TalkLeft? Is there much wailing, gnashing of teeth, and general woe-is-me going on?
reid
Anyone who still makes Jerky Boys references is okay by me.
r€nato
too early in the day for me to imbibe that much whine.
John S.
Fuck ’em, Wil.
This is Balloon-Juice, the land of haters and blowhards. I think your blog is great, and even if Paramount made your character a pussy on TNG, I think you made the most out what you had to work with.
We’re a resilient lot.
Krista
Nah, I never did get heavily into Trek, although I love listening to Patrick Stewart’s voice. I remember one episode where he was rehearsing a play with Data (’twas Henry V, methinks), and to see him doing the full-on Shakespearean acting was mind-blowing. I’d give my eyeteeth to see his one-man version of “A Christmas Carol”.
Dr. Who? Not so much. Just never got into it. I’m a BSG girl, and have been since about age 4. Nothing was better than hunkering down on the shag carpet in my living room, while wearing my footie pajamas, milk and cookies next to me, and watching a show whose name I couldn’t even pronounce properly.
wasabi gasp
Yeah, this is asking way too much. Thats like good president type stuff. Honorable, respectful, integrity type stuff. I’d be happy with a few spoon bends and maybe a levitation or two.
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dr. bloor
Um, Paul? Just how old are you?…
Ted
I think the idea was that she wouldn’t really be there if she wasn’t empathic. She’d be down in an office all the time or something.
r€nato
Me, I’d be happy with gramatically correct sentences and the ability to correctly pronounce, ‘nuclear’.
r€nato
grammatically. Fuck.
John S.
No shit.
If the janitor were empathic, he’d be on my fucking bridge, too.
Dreggas
I was a big Star Trek The Next Generation fan. Still am, especially of the borg.
As far as why Troi was on the bridge. The chick could read minds just by looking at the people on the holo-com thing. I’d want her right there too. Not to mention her bodacious ta-tas.
Blue Raven
Was someone looking for sexism? I think I just found some.
Only half-kidding.
Note: I am a woman.
b. hussein canuckistani
My wife saw him in New York recently doing MacBeth, and says it’s the best bit of acting she’s seen in her life. I thought he was pretty awesome as Sejanus in I, Claudius. If he’s a dick in real life, I don’t want to hear about it.
Dreggas
Group think on Balloon-Juice:
Question: Why Was Dianna Troi on the bridge?
Near universal response: She could read minds we’d want her there too.
Dreggas
I heard Patrick Stewart doing a reading of A Christmas Carol once, absolutely phenomenal voice.
Rick Taylor
There was a thread on the suggestion that Obama might pay off Hillary to leave the election. The consensus was he leaked this to the press to humiliate her, and it’s more evidence if any be needed that he has no class.
BTD, every willing to be helpful, is giving Obama advice on how to be more populist.
Evidently, we could still have a revote in Florida and Michigan, only Donna Brazille and the DNC weren’t blocking it. This is progress; at least he’s not blaming Obama.
For the umpteenth time, BTD threw out the idea of a unity ticket. There was progress here, as it seems to have sunk in to the commenters that a Clinton/Obama ticket isn’t going to fly. The consensus seemed to be that Hillary would be a fool to tie herself to the stone that is Obama.
Oh yes, and since Obama has effectively won, BTD calls for him to seat the Michigan Florida Democrats.
The Moar You Know
I notice not one person refers to Wil as “Wesley” after he shows up in the thread.
Lollercaust.
Love ya, Wil, you and I looked like twins when we were younger.
Ted
Same here, to the point of going to a few conventions. One thing I hoped they would do is a movie on the back-story of the Borg, but oh well. You know, some species starts with implanted cell-phones in their heads or something … few thousand years … Borg.
Wesley. Does that count?
Indeed. I’m glad he’s been open-minded enough to video game voice-overs. Probably not a “respectable” thing for a classicly trained Brit to do.
PeterJ
Best part? That’s the one of the most annoying thing about Jennifer Garner.
—
Never was a Star Trek fan so I don’t harbor any weird hatred towards Wesley Crusher that seems to unite way too many fans…
I did read Wil Wheaton’s blog a couple of years ago though but I stopped for some reason, maybe should start again.
nightjar
Being a Treki is not something you get of your system. It lives in the fun and wondrous part of the brain for eternity, or at least a long time. Boldly going where no man has gone before. Wow eee, Will (wes) Wheaton, Viva La Traveler!
You don’t know what your missing Krista.
AkaDad
I’ve basically said that here, yet nobody gave me a hard time about it.
b. hussein canuckistani
As long as we are doing our best Trek-geek impressions, I have to say that none of the TNG women ever really turned my crank the way Uhura did, especially when she pulled a knife on Evil Sulu. Now that’s a formative image for a child to see. She was ten different kinds of awesome, and I’m sorry she didn’t get more quality screen time.
orogeny
I would have.
;-)
Ted
Sarcasm. But Sirtis did finally loosen up. I don’t watch anything with Garner.
Krista
It wasn’t the Trek stuff, it was the drooling over Troi’s assets. I was amused more than anything, really.
nightjar
Hell no. They’re pedal to the metal full bore on to the convention and let’s count those votes in FLA and MI. I’m wondering if they are’nt the Borg here to assimilate all our Obamobot asses. But now we got Wes Crusher and his wonderkind smarts to Phaser their asses back to the Gamma quad. Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
nightjar
LOL, my bad then.
Dreggas
Watch “First Contact” gives a bit of an insight into how the borg found out about earth as well as how earth first discovered other civilizations and vice-versa (notably the vulcans).
The Borg “Overmind” is in it and gives some of the background…did I mention she’s a chick? Or at least the torso of one. She has a big crush on Picard then on Data and even hooks data up with flesh so he can “feel” etc. Starting to make him more human in that regard.
Should Know Better
I think the idea was that she wouldn’t really be there if she wasn’t empathic. She’d be down in an office all the time or something.
Sure, except she could sense stuff happening over on other ships so she totally could have holocommuted if the wanted to. Plus the outfits. Plus her character/role just didn’t make any sense-if they needed an empath on the bridge wasn’t there a single Betazoid communications officer candidate or something?
Um…
I’m gonna leave and come back and pretend this conversation never happened. Kthx.
Ted
lol
That’s racist and discrimination! Affirmative action! Or something…
Andrew
Is this Wil Wheaton another DougJ character? Who’s Wesley? Is that another blog spoofer? Why are Federation star ships so aerodynamic?
Genine
I don’t think it was so much a matter of “need” as they had that resource on the ship and they used it. Also, and I could be wrong, but I don’t think there were a lot of Betazoids in Starfleet. They preferred other pursuits such as mediation and whatnot. Few went into the miliary.
I really loved that show. I never missed it, but I am not a Trekkie.
shera
As long as we’re referencing ST:TNG and Wil Wheaton (!) has posted in this thread, don’t these last throes of Hillary’s campaign remind anyone of the episode where Dr. Crusher is trapped in a rapidly collapsing universe and it’s up to Wesley and the Traveller to rescue her? Anyone? Anyone?
Also:
Don’t feel bad; reading the comments, I actually thought about a possible argument that the use of Troi’s empathic abilities on unsuspecting cultures would violate the Prime Directive.
shera
As long as we’re referencing ST:TNG and Wil Wheaton (!) has posted in this thread, don’t these last throes of Hillary’s campaign remind anyone of the episode where Dr. Crusher is trapped in a rapidly collapsing universe and it’s up to Wesley and the Traveller to rescue her? Anyone? Anyone?
Also:
Don’t feel bad; reading the comments, I actually thought about a possible argument that the use of Troi’s empathic abilities on unsuspecting cultures would violate the Prime Directive.
bago
Voice acting in video games is serious business. Play Mass Effect. It too has the voice of Marina Sirtis, as well as Seth Green. Oblivion had Patrick Stewart.
w vincentz
Ex girlfriend, huh?
Hillary is not an ex. She is currently the girlfriend of some guy named Bill and it will remain that way as long as he submits, allows her to dress in that black leather bedroom attire and use the riding crop as much as she wants.
It’s been this bedroom scene since the “Monica (aka: Firelips) Days”.
Hillary knows whips!
Z
Troi sucked. The REAL ship’s therapist was the character Whoopi Goldberg played.
God, I’m such a geek.
Krista
You are one seriously odd duck.
r€nato
and why did they make that ‘whoosh’ sound when traveling through the vacuum of space?
Dennis - SGMM
I preferred the original, over-the-top, Star Trek. Good ol’ Kirk just beat ’em up, blew ’em up or hit ’em over the head with a rock. The TNG lot just talked them to death – when they weren’t sporting around in the
masturbatoriumHolodeck.redbeardjim
[quote]Voice acting in video games is serious business. Play Mass Effect. It too has the voice of Marina Sirtis, as well as Seth Green. Oblivion had Patrick Stewart.[/quote]
Fallout had Michael Dorn, Tony Shalhoub and Clancy Brown, among others.
Z
Uhura was hot, in a these-boots-are-made-for-walkin kind of way. But none of the Trek franchise girls have made me drool like the Vulcan hotty on Enterprise! She is sooo fine.
Dennis - SGMM
And why did they make sweeping turns like an aircraft?
Genine
Well, wielding a whip on someone is a skill. You have to learn serious muscle control of your rotator cuff and forearm as to not split the skin. You also have to have a great sense of timing, otherwise much-badness follows.
However, a riding crop is very easy to use. It’s just a matter of controlling the force.
w vincentz
QUACK quack.
I’ve been watchin’ out for that girl in the duck blind with that thar six shooter for a long time.
It traumatized me I tell ya, quack quack.
Rick Taylor
And the fight music was just incredible.
dun-dun DA DA DA DA DA DA dun-dun Da da…
Dreggas
Evil Dead, the video game had Bruce Campbell, so did an outerspace one by Novalogic.
Anne Elk (Miss)
you mean….”If there’s nothing wrong with ME, there must be something wrong with the (democratic party) universe”?
hmmm. yep.
Saw Patrick Stewart in Ann Arbor with the Royal Shakespeare Company as Prospero in “The Tempest.” Incredible performance (actually, by everyone involved) The day before, he “conducted” the University of Michigan band at halftime. Pretty good sport, as I wonder how much he knows about American college football.
Dennis - SGMM
Damn! Teh Internets is amazing!
How in the world did you find that?
r€nato
..and when he was relaxing from that, he fucked pretty much any humanoid female alien.
Picard didn’t get much, did he? But I think he and Whoopi had a thing, that was hot…
slightly_peeved
Red Dwarf. Watch it, smegheads. (Well, the first six seasons anyway).
I think any candidate who successfully introduces universal healthcare to the US will be transformative in the way Wil described.
I’m not American, so I can’t speak to the American psyche, but I don’t know of a single country in the world that wants to get rid of their government healthcare once they’ve got it. If people are unhappy with their government healthcare, they’re often unhappy because it is underfunded – and because they want the government to spend more on it. If Obama can introduce an attractive government alternative to healthcare that everyone can access, it’ll be the first step in convincing the American people that there are certain things that the government does right. That would be pretty transformative, from my (admittedly little) knowledge of US politics.
Dennis - SGMM
Fortunately for fans, they passed on the script titled “Collision on Sheeptron IV”.
Krista
Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Dreggas
you don’t live in California by any chance? :D
Dreggas
Oh and a whip takes a lot of skill. Can really damage the kidneys and spine with it, I am more a fan of floggers tho a crop is a fun implement too.
Nikki
GENINE! Safe, sane, consensual?
nightjar
Yea, but Dr. Crusher gets pulled safely through the light at the last second to warp another day.
Nikki
I’m a big fan of the whip, but I’m a receiver, not a giver.
Rick Taylor
Google. :)
Star Trek “fight music”
Anne Elk (Miss)
Almost every American age 65 or older is already convinced of that. Just try to take their Medicare away.
I work in a physician’s office and one of the stupidest points that gets brought up ad nauseam in this debate is “oh, people will have to WAIT for the care they need, other countries have these horrible long waiting lists!”, etc. etc.
Every day in our office, we have people turn down appointments once we inform them that they have no coverage for mental health care or they have a huge deductible that they have to meet first or we’re not in their network or whatever. Gee, how long are they going to wait — hmm, FOREVER, maybe?
I’m thinking a 6 week wait and a possible copay would look pretty damn good to those folks.
Ted
Why? They put out telepathic stuff, why’s it her fault if she can pick em up?
See, we can get this thread way nerdier still.
Dreggas
I can take a single-tail but not a big fan of it. I prefer a “thud” to a “sting” most of the time, especially on my back. Get a good heavy Elk hide flogger and I could just go for days.
Ted
I know. And he’s excellent at it. Too bad there’s not much of it.
Grand Wazoo
He’s going to be at the Emerald City Comicon this weekend in Seattle so I may actually get to meet him. I am now excited by this prospect. If I get the chance, I shall mention the Magical Unity Pony and see what kind of response I get. Fanboys for Obama!
Genine
Don’t say that. A friend of mine already thinks I should have a website. lol But, if you ever need any tips or info, Krista, just ask! :)
Nope.
Oh, yeah.
Dennis - SGMM
Rookies. You must not have any Rose bushes close to hand. The thorns of the Rose can provide anything from a gift to an admonition to a severe reproof.
Genine
Yes, floggers are fun and you don’t need a lot of skill in order to not cause damage. I mean you really have to try to inflict serious damage and that is not a person I’d want to deal with.
Medicine Man
Damn! Has Wil left the building?
Loved your speech at the Penny Arcade Expo dude. :)
Dreggas
Well if you ever get out this way let me know :D
Krista
Day-um.
Genine
I just want to say this is a fun blog. We talk politics, social issues, Star Trek, Miley Cyrus, scandals, tits, and now whipping and flogging… and all in one place!
I feel like I’ve come home. =sniff=
Dreggas
I’ve had some heavy one used on me that could pretty easily bruise a kidney in the wrong hands. Of course wrapping is always an issue but it’s easy enough to learn NOT to do.
Dreggas
The longer I have hung out here and at the GOS the more convinced I am that there are a lot of kinksters and “my kind of people” out there LOL. Wait until we get on about TENs Units and violet wands BWAHAHAHAHAA.
slightly_peeved
This is one of the points that gets brought up by people unfamiliar with the other systems.
Australia has a waiting list for elective surgery, but also has a private insurance system running on top of the public system. Pay private insurance (about AU$110 a month) and you get elective surgery as soon as your particular surgeon is free, plus a private room when you’re in hospital, and money back for things like glasses, dental care, physiotherapy, etc. A number of European countries run under a similar system, I believe.
Cain
yes, welcome to balloon-juice where a post by Wil Wheaton goes from trekkies to how do administer a proper whipping and by men who’d love one.
We’re probably distracting John badly with all this..
cain
Genine
OMG! That’s SO funny! You’re a trip! We should probably let the thread go back to Star Trek, lest we scandalize people.
I bet w vincentz didn’t think it would come to this!
Dreggas
I’m greedy, I give and receive.
Dreggas
Oh I’ve gone there before, here much to my own personal amusement. :D
nightjar
Ah, he probably doesn’t care unless we get off on Bukakke or cream pies. OOps.
AkaDad
cbear must be too excited about this thread to even respond.
Cain
I have sensitive skin, flogging and whipping probably wouldn’t do it for me. I’m probably not a fan of giving either… Who knows what that would unlock! Well if I was giving it to Wil Wheaton I suppose I might reconsider.
cain
Anne Elk (Miss)
yeah, cause Star Trek only has Klingons who use painsticks for every important rite of passage….
and Vulcans, who used to engage in mortal combat with sharp blades and leather straps before they could consummate their marriages….
and the Betazoids, who get married naked…
I believe it took quite a bit to scandalize Gene Roddenberry, based on the unauthorized biographies…
w vincentz
Dreggas,
Your talk got me so excited that I had to take a break and go for a ride on one of my thoroughbreds.
I used the rotator cuff kinda twist down the backside.
I sure liked it, and I think Big Molly did as well. She sure turned on.
Took a while to cool her off, but as you might know, I never ride em hard and put em away wet.
Oh, try setting the stirrups up a notch higher. Great on the legs!
Dreggas
yeah that was the day John lost his innocence when he found out what that is.
Genine
Hmmm, the West Coast IS nice this time of year… lol
But, seriously, unless you live in BFE, you must have a lot of access to various resources.
Krista
And that’s why I love it here. It’s really sort of a “let-it-all-hang-out” kind of place, but there’s still a lot of respect amongst the rabble.
Dreggas
LOL. Now I can say it would probably be fun to flog wil but only in the fun happy sense. After a while of receiving the skin toughens up and really flogging feels a lot like a massage.
Cain
um.. where to begin?
:D
cain
Corvus9
The first exposure I had to Wil Wheaton was a post he did, I think it was on Suicide Girls (!), about all the Hollywood Fucks invading the SAN Fran Comicon. It was pretty awesome. I think I found it from a link from Warren Ellis. The guy who wrote Transmetropolitan. Have you been linked to be the guy who wrote Transmetropolitan? No.
Wil Wheaton is more badass then you, Wesley Crusher be damned. Live with it and move on in your sad little excuse for a life.
Dreggas
Ummmmmm ok….
Dreggas
I live in the OC and get out to L.A. once in a while. Good community and scene even down here behind the orange curtain.
Cain
Indeed, you guys are quite the rabble. I figured y’all guys were all fun to hang out with after like 2 days of reading balloon-juice.
I’ll take your word for it! :-)
cain
Nikki
*SIGH* I actually got starry-eyed reading that.
Krista
I’m definitely out on the receiving, then. This little chickadee has very sensitive skin, and likes it that way.
Soylent Green
Wil Wheaton, if you’re still here (doubtful once the Trek chat gets going):
I think you are a fine actor and writer and a stand-up guy, not to be confused with the kid you played on TV a hundred years ago. I’ve enjoyed your blog for years. That said, I think you ought to grin and bear it when the Wesley jokes inevitably start. Your fame is what drives your blog traffic.
As for this:
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m 20 years older than you, but just as inspired. So let the cynics and burnouts have their say. I won’t be disappointed when Obama turns out not to have magic powers, because it’s never been about the messenger; it’s about his message.
Let’s hope this isn’t the only time in our lives that we hear it.
Dulcie
Who knew there were so many fellow kinksters on Balloon Juice?
I love a good flogging – both giving and receiving.
w vincentz
Genine,
Nope, I didn’t.
First I was talkin’ about Hill’s dominance of Billy (payback’s a bitch donch think?).
Then I was talkin’ about ridin’ one of my horses.
Look at where this went!
Good that it all hangs out sometimes..(especially when it’s least expected!)
Dreggas
I don’t mean it becomes desensitized. If you bruise easily then I would not recommend it (unless you’d wear them as trophy marks). With sensitive skin types it’s more fun to use tack gloves (aka vampire gloves) and hot wax and ice and other sensation type stuff anyway.
Cain
Well Dulcie, this is a political blog we are all getting our flogging and beatings one way or another. We’re either giving it or receiving it in here. Heh.
cain
Nikki
Welcome to the BJKinksters, Dulcie!
Dreggas
I see kinky people….they’re everywhere….they’re kinky and they just don’t know it.
What amuses me the most is pointing out how many kinksters are doctors, nurses, etc. Tho I have to say politicians have lost their shock factor “DAMN YOU DAVID VITTER AND LARRY CRAIG”
Dulcie
That made me laugh.
Thanks, Nikki. I knew that Dreggas was into BDSM, but I had no idea there were so many others hanging out here.
My ex used to say that everyone is kinky, they just need the right motivation :-)
Genine
Yes, it be tingly and soothing after a while. Then comes the sensation play!
Cain
Gads. You must stock up on aloe vera.
(and not in a good way!)
cain
Breschau
So, I see the link to Wil’s blog, and I think “Hey, cool – Wil and John and I are about the same age, this all kind of ties together.”
I read Wil’s post – I agree completely with his first paragraph, and I laugh at the phone call conversation.
Then, I come back to BJ, and go into the comments – figuring I can write something like “Hey, Wil – so Fark.com is cool enough to comment in, but not here? Poseur.”
A couple of pages down, I see Wil’s comment.
Then, the serious Trekkie geek stuff starts rolling out.
Someone posts the Star Trek fight song.
GENINE makes a post showing obvious first hand experience with flagellation. Krista expresses interest. Nikki follows up quickly after that.
This is, without a doubt…
BEST. POST (and comments). EVAH.
Nikki
Apparently, the freaks DO come out at night. LOL
PaulW
I’m older than the Beatles and younger than the Rolling Stones.
Actually I’m about 2 years older than Wil (!!!).
And today’s my birthday. So there.
w vincentz
Breschau,
Agreed.
This went classic in a hurry.
Shit, I’m not even a Catholic priest (though I might be one some day).
Kinksters of the world unite!
Genine
And the daytime. :) A lot of times, I’m a morning person.
Off topic: I was getting my lunch today and I heard Karma Chameleon playing. That album came out 25 years ago! That’s more disconcerting than my Little Pony being 26 years old because I thought My Little Pony was kind of stupid.
But I loved Culture Club!
Nikki
I was just about to wish PaulW a Happy Birthday! But then Genine had to post about Culture Club and 25 years ago and now I’m too depressed.
w vincentz
Happy Birthday PaulW!
Was going to comment on Boy George, Culture Club, cool eye make-up, and public community service humiliation, or whips, but I’ll just repeat myself instead.
Happy Birthday!
Chris Johnson
Gah! Medicine Man, you stole my greeting.
Hi Wil! Great PAX keynote speech! Don’t let the TV watchers get you down, this blog also has a goodly amount of hardcore geekness for you! Stick around :)
Love, slashdot user #580 thus possibly geekier than you even…
kind of an off white
Y’know, if Wil Wheaton had said:
I would’ve just nodded in agreement and not set a bunch of people off before.
That album’s brilliant and criminally underrated. My sense of justice is somewhat assuaged by the gobs of money they made.
Genine
Just think of what Dreggas said about roses… that’ll cheer you up!
And happy birthday PaulW! :)
Cain
My birthday is on mother’s day. I’m a gift that keeps on giving, baby. ;)
I’m not surprised with all the BSDM stuff.. they’d be attracted to the democratic party being that we all suffer underneath its umbrella.. it makes perfect sense. Look at us, we’re at each other’s throats O vs H. Together it’s O-H, OH! OH! OH! .. OH!
haha.. I make me laugh. I need a drink…
cain
Cain
Dude.. you are elite. Mine is pretty low too.. slashdot user #1856.
cain
Krista
Indeed. This entire conversation has definitely piqued my interest.
Paul Weimer
Happy Birthday PaulW!
(No relation to me whatsoever…and my birthday is not for another five months).
Dreggas
I blame boy george for my attraction to feminine men in womens clothing and to trannies in general. I had a framed picture of him when I was 5 and thought he was a she.
Dreggas
I guess that is one way of putting it.
OT: My father just sent me a chain email about Obama not putting his hand on his heart during the National Anthem claiming it was during the pledge of allegiance and with a long screed in red and blue letters about McCain talking about the pledge. Mind you my father used to hate McCain. Please someone shoot me.
Genine
Wow! Same with me!
You’re like my twin… but not!
Dreggas
Hi Sis!
b. hussein canuckistani
Crap. I hope we didn’t chase Wil away with our uber-dorkiness. Perhaps he’s still here, but under a different handle.
Dreggas – you were mentioning earlier your knowledge of Marina Sertis’ kinky side. Is there anything you’d like to confess to us, Dreggas? Or should I say – Wil?
kwAwk
“Wil Wheaton Hates Her, Too”
“The Psycho Ex-Girlfriend of the Democratic Party”
_______________
I wonder how many times you guys think you can tell Hillary supporters to basically ‘fuck off’ and still think we are going to show up in November to support your unity pony.
The time is coming in the next couple of weeks where Obama and his ilk will be begging Hillary to bow out of the race gracefully and help Obama unify the party. I hope she doesn’t do it honestly.
I hope she tells him that if he is who he says he is, the great unifier, then he shouldn’t need all the help. Everytime I read one of these posts I would like to see Hillary stay in the election and shred him up to the convention just to see all the angst and crocodile tears from his supporters.
But apparently I’m just a spoof, whatever that stupid word means.
Dreggas
well, this is just rumor however I heard she is a Top/Domme. Like I said no proof, never seen her at a party but have heard as much.
Dreggas
And Honestly I can’t wait until you people get over your self important whiny ass titty baby routine and either buck up and support the dem nominee like the rest of us Democrats.
Breschau
I wonder how many times you can come across a joke and read it as “fuck off”.
I’m sorry, but I’m tired of this bullshit. Some other people may choose to accomodate you and your oh-so-fucking-sensitive-sensibilities.. but you know what? Get over yourself.
Shee lost. THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD.
Here is the question you must answer:
Would you rather have Obama or McCain as the next POTUS?
If are okay with McCain – Bush’s third term – then you are a traitor to the party and the country.
If you instead answer “Obama”, then please stuff your Scarlet O’Hara-esque “Oh my WORD!” ability to be offended by the most meaningless comments where the sun don’t shine. We *ARE* trying to unite the party – but if you insist on finding offense in every single hidden corner of the blogosphere, then *YOU* are to blame.
Or, would you prefer that the rest of us in the “Creative Class” stay bitter about that very label until January 2009? Cuz, ya know, that’ll fix everything. That’ll make everything better.
(Why do I feel like I’m talking to my 5 year old whenever I have one of these conversations with a strident Hill-bot?)
kwAwk
And just to provide a little balance, I’ll have some fun and we’ll do Barack Obama’s interview for the Dem nomination.
BO: Hi I’m Barry Obama and I’m here to apply for the nomination for President.
DP: Oh okay, but the sign says Barack.
BO: I know but Barack sounds so much more exotic. My father is from Africa.
DP: You don’t say. Well tell me about yourself Barry, or should I call you Barack?
BO: Barack is fine. Well father was from Africa and my mom from Kansas. My parents split up and I was raised by my mother, my grandfather and my typical white grandmother.
DP: How was she typical? Did she listen to Lawrence Welk?
BO: No, no, no. Nothing like that. She was a bit racist and would say things that I found offensive once in a while. It was very cute don’t you know.
DP: Umm…okay. Well lets move on, where did you go to school?
BO: Well first I went to college in California, but then I transferred to Columbia University in New York where I studied political science.
DP: So you’ve wanted to be a politician for some time?
BO: No no the politics thing just happened, what I really wanted to be was a community organizer. People who want to be politicians are so phoney.
DP: So did you get to become a community organizer?
BO: Yes, after college.
DP: So what did you organize Barry?
BO: Rallys. You see the steel mills were shut down and we rallied to decry the shut steel mills.
DP: Okay. So what did your rallies achieve?
BO: Well, people were hopeful. And when they were hopeful they would come back to the next meeting.
DP: Yes, but did you succeed in anything with the rallies?
BO: Yes we had a great turnout.
DP: But did the steel mills re-open, did people get jobs.
BO: Well no. But we all left feeling pretty good about ourselves.
DP: Ahh….okay. Lets move on. Why do you want to be President.
BO: Because people need hope. And I’m good at hope. And I can bring everybody together to solve problems.
DP: Thats great! Can you give me an example of this?
BO: No. I’m kinda new to this politics thing. I did bring a lot of people together at the rallies. And when I do a campaign even women throw their underwear at me. I bet nobody ever threw their underwear at John McCain.
DP: Except maybe Larry Craig. Ha ha. But you’ve been in the Senate for a few years now. Can you give me an example of how you’ve brought people together to solve problems?
BO: No not really. You see those are Washington type people who are old and out of touch. They don’t seem to realize how special I am and don’t listen. When I’m President though, all that will change. The lion will lie down with the lamb, the world will unite and I guarantee that by the end of my first year in office, Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth will engage in a tearful embrace as they announce their reunion tour.
DP: Wow! That sounds amazing. I am a bit concerned though you seem to be polling rather weak among Reagan Democrats.
BO: Yes, that is true. But those people are discouraged and they cling to guns and religion to fill the big gaping hole in their shallow meaningless lives.
DP: Don’t you think they might dislike having their lives called shallow and meaningless?
BO: Well probably, but only because they are bitter. But when I’m done giving my speech they will all have tingles down their legs just like Chris Matthews. My wife Michelle says I give her a tingle or two don’t you know?
DP: Ha ha ha, yes, I bet she does. Speaking of Michelle I heard she said that this is the first time she was ever proud of her country.
BO: She didn’t mean it like that. She only meant that in her lifetime the country has never voted for anybody as special as me. Now they have, she meant no offense.
DP: Oh I see. But since you mention it, the country has voted for you, 30 million votes cast and you seem to be winning the popular vote by a percent or two. How does that work as far as you being able to unify the party?
BO: Well, once I am made the nominee I’ll ask Hillary to unify the party for me.
DP: And you think she’ll do this?
BO: Sure. She’ll want to unify the party, and ofcourse if she doesn’t do it we’ll accuse her of being racist, trying to destroy the party for her own benefit, and trash her husband’s legacy. My supporter have 20 years worth of Republican hyperbole, name calling and fairytales to draw upon. Its an offer she can’t refuse.
DP: It certainly doesn’t sound very nice.
BO: Oh it will be very nice. I’ll stand above the frey and let others do the dirty work. I learned that from George and Karl.
DP: Very good. Now as far as policies, what will you use for a platform?
BO: Thats the great part, Hillary, John Edwards, Joe Biden have all came up with plans, I’ll just copy their ideas and call them my own. Ofcourse I’ll water them down a bit so as to make them more palipable to republicans. It’ll work like a charm.
DP: Well Barry, this all sounds great. Lets get to work.
kwAwk
Breschau — Take about 6 deep breaths and re-read your post. Then try to tell me with a straight face that you don’t fit right in with the Bushies; right down to the gratuatous tossing around of the word traitor and even down to the condescending and dare I say it elitist rhetoric of how everybody who disagrees with you thinks like a 5 year old.
You may think of the Hillary as the psycho ex-girlfried as a joke, which to you folks it probably is, but it is the type of joke that would fit in quite well at RedState or even MichaelSavage.com. Is that what is supposed to make it funny?
Let me explain something to you from my bitter 5 year old point of view here. Those of us who support Hillary, support her for a reason. If you folks can’t back away from your arrogance and figure out what that reason is then your candidate is doomed to failure.
That my friend is the reason Obama needs Hillary to unite the party for him. Because all the pie in the sky, can’t we all just get along, touchy feely rhetoric doesn’t have the same affect on everybody that it has on you. We want some evidence of actually being able to achive results.
And if there is anything Obama resume’s is painfully thin on it is results.
Breschau
My use of the word “traitor” is certainly not gratuitous. I actually argued with myself for 10 minutes on whether to include that or not. But I decided in the end – fuck it, yes.
You did a nice job of trying to redirect the conversation. I’m going to try to fix it here.
Here is the question you must answer:
Would you rather have Obama or McCain as the next POTUS?
Blue Raven
Voting for a Republican in this upcoming Presidential election is granting consent to continue the imperial presidency, pre-emptive war, the denial of our civil liberties, and a guaranteed rollback of Roe vs. Wade within 10 years.
If that’s not treason, I want to know what is.
kwAwk
How about you answering my question first.
Why does the Great Unifyer of Men need Hillary Clinton to unify the Democratic Party?
kwAwk
Blue Raven – Treason is a crime defined in the Constitution as being punishable by death. Would you really make the arguement that the 75,000,000+ voters who will vote for John McCain this year should be put to death?
I hope not. I hope it is just hyperbole.
Breschau
He doesn’t.
Your turn.
kind of an off white
Say what you will about kwAwk, that sketch is still funnier than any of the ones Fred Armisen’s been in lately.
Tax Analyst
If she coulda read minds she would have reached out through my TV screen and slapped me in the face.
I don’t think I’m alone there, either.
Tax Analyst
Yeah, it has to do with ones BEST hopes for the future. You know…something about “having a dream”. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it. When we stop believing a better day is possible we should just throw in the fucking towel. It’s the kind of thing John Kennedy inspired in young folks at the time. Did he entirely match up to that expection? No, but a lot of those young folks ended up DOING inspirational things themselves. Don’t discount that by-product, it is our main hope in the future.
I’m more afraid that too many have already done that than I am of folks going a little over the top over Obama.
Don’t know if anyone will see this since I came to this part of the game rather late.
Slim
You boys with the tingling legs just keep up your cutesy sexist rants. In two years, you’ll need to move to Illinois so you can do it again when he tries to stay in the Senate.
John Petty
Let me get this straight: That “psycho ex-girlfriend thing” strikes people as funny?
John Petty
Some people are just SO sensitive to these things. Of course, this has nothing at all to do with gender–nope, nosiree. It’s just the behavior–natch!
Should Know Better
Sigh… and it was such a lovely thread, too.
Darkrose
Dreggas:
I don’t know if my wrists are up to swinging a heavy flogger these days…how do you feel about canes?
Darkrose, who is, in fact, in CA.
mere mortal
Ironic, since that’s just the sort of thing a jilted, psychotic ex would say.
mere mortal
Not to belabor the point, but
Sounds like Wil has found a new boyfriend in Obama. And I’m not being sexist or homophobic here, just talking about the behavior.
If these comments cause offense to Wil, perhaps he’ll notice his own behavior in the reflection.