Pharma Bro got seven years. If loving this tweet is wrong, I don’t know what right is anymore:
Update:Another good one, via LAO in the comments:
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Pharma Bro got seven years. If loving this tweet is wrong, I don’t know what right is anymore:
Update:Another good one, via LAO in the comments:
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Jager
Will his sentence put the fear of God into the rest of these guys? Ahhh, no.
LAO
Please add Christine Teigen’s tweet!
Chet Murthy
93 years too few. Also, it is a moral failing to wish for prison rape upon him. But many amongst us are fallen.
LAO
@Jager: Which guys. He wasn’t convicted or sentenced for manipulating pharmaceutical prices. He was convicted of securities fraud.
Brachiator
Love that Tweet. Just love it.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
I’m setting the over/under on his first trip to the prison infirmary at 5 hours.
I’m also calling the first fist as being straight to the mouth – the over/under on lost teeth in that first punch is set at 3.
Yutsano
@LAO: Honestly 7 years for securities fraud isn’t bad. Wasn’t he charged with multiple counts?
LAO
@Chet Murthy: FWIW, not much — but I really hate prison rape jokes. Also, Shrekli will be in a minimum-security federal camp where prisoner safety is taken seriously. (Unlike most state facilities).
stinger
@LAO: All of them, Katie. The Big Pharma guys getting rich off sick people, and the securities fraudsters. Porque no los todos?
ETA: I agree with you about any kind of rape jokes.
LAO
@Yutsano: I have never looked at his guidelines analysis — but I’m fairly sure that the Judge imposed a sentence below the recommended guidelines, which is called a variance. At least that’s what it seemed to me from the tweeting. An 84 months sentence for a white collar crime where there was no actual loss (just intended loss) is fairly harsh in our system.
Chet Murthy
@LAO: These times harden people’s souls and congeal humor into hatred. i’m sorry he’s going to a minimum-security prison. I’d much rather he were in gen-pop in a prison full of the most vicious gangsters.
raven
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Bar of soap wrapped in a towel.
hueyplong
Is anyone else picturing a dozen or so people in the news right now crying at their respective sentencings?
I myself am rolling with S Miller.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@LAO:
It’s been a while since I did this kind of law, but I thought a 7 year term was too lengthy for one of those sweet, sweet camps.
germy
@LAO: Yes. Don’t Financial Crime people go to club fed type places? I doubt he’ll be punched in the mouth by bikers with swastika tattoos. Most likely he’ll eat dinner in a cafeteria filled with accountants who cooked the books, and business owners who didn’t pay taxes.
LAO
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: He is currently incarcerated in a tougher, more dangerous facility (the MCC in Manhattan) than he will be once the Bureau of Prisons designates him post sentence. Also, I heard he’s paying other inmates for protection.
Yutsano
@LAO: Should have clarified what I meant by “not bad”. As in not bad from the justice perspective. Even in Club Fed he’ll have a rough time.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@raven:
I like it – particularly when delivered by ordinary decent criminals to a sobbing Shkreli.
LAO
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I think that he has enough time already served, coupled with the 3 months it will take for designation, that after deducting for good time — he’s going to qualify for a camp.
PS — I’m not sure that sentence will make sense to anyone else.
LAO
@Yutsano: I agree. Jail sucks at any level.
germy
If he gets out early for good behavior, there’s a spot waiting for him in the trump administration.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@LAO:
Ah – I’d forgotten that. I had mistakenly thought that he was still out on bail.
Wonder how much sweet Shkreli cash made its way to inmates’ mamas and babymamas to make it safe.
Ridnik Chrome
@Jager: I didn’t think the rich even went to jail anymore. So there is that…
@germy:
Maybe he’ll be punched in the mouth by an accountant with swastika tattoos…
raven
@LAO: Fuck him, I wish he’d go to one of Arpaio’s joints.
ruemara
Hmmm. Wish that sentence had asset confiscation. And public stonings.
Chet Murthy
@LAO:
Your attitude is commendable: you extend to him a recognition of humanity that he does not extend to his victims. But me, I *don’t* extend that recognition to him. That’s why I don’t joke about about him getting shanked — I mean it. I mean it. B/c I don’t recognize him as a fellow human.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@LAO:
So disappointing. I was so hoping for a Shawshank experience for him (not Andy Dufresne’s experience – but instead, the guy that Byron Hadley beat to death his first day).
Zinsky
I hope Pharma Bro has been stockpiling KY jelly and doing lots of rectal stretching exercises, because he is going to be someone’s bitch in prison real soon….
Marcion
Wu Tang Clan ain’t nothin’ to fuck with
germy
He should have used Sam Nunberg’s defense: “Do I look like the sort of person who goes to prison??”
rikyrah
DA PHUQ???
bystander
Agnew got three years probation for tax evasion. John Mitchell, 2 1\2 to eight, for conspiracy and obstruction. So seven sounds pretty rough for securities. But still not enough for this d/bag.
germy
@raven:
Hell, I wish Arpaio would go to one of Arpaio’s joints. Joined by Clarke.
schrodingers_cat
Ladies and gentlemen, we have the next R nominee.
LAO
@Chet Murthy: I don’t think it’s all that commendable. I’m a defense attorney and I represent these people.
@raven: I’m laughing because years ago, I was part of a trial team that won an acquittal in the EDNY (total jury nullification) and 6 weeks after walking out of federal jail, the idiot got arrested in Maricopa county and then spent 2 years in one of Arpaio’s camps.
Major Major Major Major
Glad we’re debating the relative merits of rooting for somebody to be raped ?
germy
@Ridnik Chrome:
He can fight back by yanking his attacker’s glasses off and tossing them a few feet away. The rest of the attacker’s gang will go “Ooooh!” and make Shkreli their new leader.
LAO
@ruemara: Forfeiture —
WaterGirl
@Zinsky: Not cool.
rikyrah
ALLEGED RACIAL PROFILING?
UH HUH
“Cyclists concerned over alleged racial profiling in CPD bicycle citations”
Excerpt:
CHICAGO (WLS) — “Cyclists packed a room at City Hall Wednesday to appeal for intercession from the mayor’s Bicycle Advisory Council on alleged racial profiling.
“Many cyclists said they are concerned by a recent report that suggests African-American cyclists are more likely to be ticketed than white cyclists.
“The Chicago Tribune reports that 56 percent of all 2017 bike citations were issued in majority-black neighborhoods.
“24 percent of the citations were issued in majority-Latino neighborhoods, and 18 percent were issued in majority-white neighborhoods.”
North Lawndale has the most tickets at nearly 400. Just five tickets were issued in cyclist-heavy Lincoln Park.
Corner Stone
Gabe Sherman with Vanity Fair is dropping some knowledge right now on MSNBC: Senior WH Staff shakeup expected soon.
Chet Murthy
@Major Major Major Major: I’m good with him getting shanked and bleeding-out.
raven
@germy: ding!
jl
@Yutsano: ” Honestly 7 years for securities fraud isn’t bad. Wasn’t he charged with multiple counts? ”
Why is this guy crying? Did he really believe his snotty dumbass stunts would work? Ordinary people, particularly poor people, and very particularly poor African-American, Hispanic, and SE Asian people often get far worse for much less serious offenses. Three strikes is still on the books in California, for example.
rikyrah
@LAO:
BWA H A HAH HA HA HAHAH A
LAO
@Corner Stone: I read his latest. I shrug my shoulders at the crazy. I have a hard time believing Trump is going to push out Jaranka.
LAO
@Major Major Major Major: Yeah. It’s pretty shitty.
Barbara
This is actually a pretty harsh sentence for a non-violent crime — not that I think it’s too harsh, just that relatively speaking, that’s more than I thought he would get. There is no early release in the federal system, although you can earn time served points for good behavior and a variety of other things. I no longer weep at these kinds of sentences. I tried to help someone get clemency (petition denied) as part of Obama’s initiative, and he is serving 30 years for a non-violent drug crime. And he has kids. Guys like Shkreli figured our law and order society would never actually touch him in any meaningful way.
randy khan
@Corner Stone:
So it’s a weekday, is what he’s saying.
Jager
@LAO: Okay, those guys then
Barbara
@Major Major Major Major: I agree, it’s horrible and it’s beneath us.
Corner Stone
@LAO: If he actually goes through with canning J Kelly, McMaster, Jar Jar and Ivanka Jr – the level of shithouse crazy would blow through eleven on its way to elebenty.
And MAGA morons would come in as replacements for JK and H.R. Mc?
Gin & Tonic
@rikyrah: Not to joke about racial profiling, but my son (he’s white) got ticketed in midtown NYC on his bicycle. He was really pissed off by that, and went to court (not even sure what that process was called.) One of his close friends is a pretty serious attorney, and went with him. They both wore suits, naturally. The ticket was dismissed, so I have a selfie they took of themselves out for a drink afterward. Probably spent more on the cocktails than the ticket would have cost.
LAO
@Corner Stone: The potential level of insanity is beyond my imagination.
geg6
I cannot express how much of a girl crush I have on Chrissy Teigen.
LAO
@geg6: I know. Me too!
bystander
Scott signed the Florida gun law. Wow.
mike in dc
@Corner Stone: Bolton as NSA, Mooch as COS. Pirro as new AG.
bystander
@Corner Stone:
Hurry, Mueller, hurry. We do not want to hear about the new cast replacements on Amateur Celebrity Clusterf*ck Show.
trollhattan
@hueyplong:
I take Steven Miller as that person whose emotions run the gamut from scorn to rage. He’ll tell the judge just what he’ll do to him for this outrage, and how hard.
aimai
@Chet Murthy: Stop it. This is disgusting.
Calouste
I’m willing to bet that Pharmabro will find Jeebus in prison and start a new career fleeting
suckersthe devoted when he gets out.Corner Stone
@bystander:
“One small step for man, one giant kick to the nuts of Marion Hammer.”
Gin & Tonic
OT, but The Guardian is reporting that the Russians got the nerve agent onto Sergei Skripal by applying it to his wife’s grave.
trollhattan
@bystander:
“WH staff shakeup coming…” means exactly what to a WH that turns its staff over completely every two months? How would anybody know?
trollhattan
@Gin & Tonic: Gross!
raven
@Corner Stone: She has nuts?
d58826
ot BUT for the life of me I don’t see what the US gains by having Der Fuhrer met with Kim. Now if he can convince Kim to reunify Korea under a democratic South Korean model then great but anything else just elevates Kim w/o the US gaining anything. Der Fuhrer has elevated Kim to the world stage rather than being an outlaw nation.
Spanky
@Corner Stone: Kim Jong Un for Chief of Staff?
Corner Stone
@mike in dc:
And Dana Loesch to head of Dept of Homeland once J Kelly’s protege Kirstjen Nielsen is booted with him. Hannity as Press Secretary.
germy
@geg6: She played a Couples Counselor in this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZQAh3Jg4ss
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic:
OT, but have you seen the cartoon about Vladimir Vladimirovich? It’s very hard-hitting, so hard-hitting that I don’t even want to link it.
efgoldman
@Barbara:
It’s horrible. But nothing is beneath us
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic:
Never mind — somebody just sent it to me, but I see it’s dated 2017. Nevertheless, it’s hard-hitting — but you probably saw it long ago.
BC in Illinois
@bystander:
Yeah, “tax evasion” is a spin-off of the fact that he was taking bribes. He should have claimed them as income on his 1040.
But he was given a special deal, so that he could be out of the way when Nixon was removed. Letting him walk free was worth it. [On the other hand, when he asked for his law license back a few years later, the judge lambasted his “moral obtuseness” in minimizing what he had done.]
I think of Agnew nowadays, as I game out the sequence of events after the coming elections. Does Mueller have enough on Pence, to get him to step aside, the way Agnew did? Can the new Democratic majority put a new VP in place, for when Trump goes down? Or do we wait for Speaker Pelosi to become President? [ Our first president born in Baltimore! ]
WereBear
@rikyrah: Wow. I’ve worked in some office tension, but that’s over the top.
WereBear
That’s what hurts these guys. I don’t even have to send him to prison. Put him in the middle of Detroit, penniless, in Bermuda shorts and a wifebeater T.
Jager
@raven: No, she wears a giant set of brass balls in her grandma panties. They clang when she walks though the halls of the capital.
raven
The whine you hear is the crybaby Kentucky fans.
Barbara
@BC in Illinois: There is a lot of disparity. I have seen people get no jail time for tax evasions in situations where I was sure they would get it. I also so a brazen act of tax evasion result in a sentence of around 18 months. I think the guy who got 18 months pleaded, probably because they told him if he didn’t they were going to go after the other parties who helped him set up fraudulent bank accounts at his request but who got no money for doing so, and maybe his wife too. You really should not mess with federal prosecutors.
trollhattan
@efgoldman:
Good point. Anyway, I don’t know why anyone thinks he’s headed to Leavenworth–club fed it shall be.
raven
NCSteve
@Chet Murthy: He won’t be there long. Put a transgressive sociopath like him in a minimum security prison and he’s going to look around, see the absence of walls or towers and figure he can get away with going AWOL for a night or two on the town. And he’ll probably even post selfies of himself on Instragram and Twitter doing it.
And then he goes to Real Prison.
NCSteve
@d58826: What are you talking about? The ratings will be fantastic!
joel hanes
@Chet Murthy:
Pied.
joel hanes
@Major Major Major Major:
Glad we’re debating the relative merits
We’re gaining valuable information about our fellow commenters.
Unfortunately, we’re learning that some of them are worse people than we’d like to have imagined.
joel hanes
@Zinsky:
Pied.
jl
Off topic, but now WH is trying to walk back, backpeddle, and pre-reneg on announced NK talks. I guess we should have expected it. Why would NK talks be any different than BS Trump BS statements on Trumpcare legislation, GOP tax heist plan, DACA, debt ceiling and govt shutdown, tarrifs, or anything at all?
Extemporaneous meaningless ignorant BS from Trump, followed by more of the same, except different. Apparently now it is unclear that NK even actually made any invitation at all for a high level summit. But I guess this is better than before: Trumpsters will be distracted from genocidal and catastrophic nuke strike talk with confusion and dithering about how to back out of the BS summit announcement. A little better than war talk, and anything to get us past the midterms without a military catastrophe.
White House Now Trying To Moonwalk Back Trump’s Summit Goof
Josh Marshall, TPM
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/white-house-now-trying-to-moonwalk-back-trumps-summit-goof
efgoldman
@joel hanes:
I certainly am.
rikyrah
@Gin & Tonic:
that’s deep
germy
jl
@germy: Can the reporters tell whether he is boozed up or not? Tipsy or trashed?
germy
@jl: USA Today has footage. He looks steady as a rock, at least for him.
He’s a racist little shit, I hope he’s sweating.
mike in dc
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/trumps-lawyers-desperately-trying-convince-mueller-wrap-investigation/
This kind of attempted deal-making with Mueller is batshit insane and will result in Trump getting publicly subpoenaed.
Origuy
Hostage situation with active shooter reported in a veterans’ home in Napa Valley. Reportedly the gunman is a former resident.
Shell
Yes. Just to take one look at his smirky face would attest to that.
tobie
TPM is reporting that the summit with North Korea is indefinitely postponed and that it really was a spur-of-the-moment decision by the narcissist-in-chief. The 6:00 news better lambaste the nit-wit for conducting diplomacy in an impulsive manner that damages the credibility of the US.
MoCA Ace
I was out in the shop working when I hears this on the radio. I cheered, gave a hearty FU to the crybaby, and laughed so hard I scared the dogs. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet Schadenfreude!
Hungry Joe
The Shkreli sentence is a test for me. I believe sentences are, in general, much too long, and that prison conditions are far too harsh. Norway has the right idea: They believe that taking away one’s freedom is the punishment, and that treating prisoners like animals is immoral. As a result, their recidivism rate is a small fraction of what our is. Iceland has a maximum sentence of seven years for all crimes except murder, which is 14 years. (I don’t think they have any incarcerated murderers right now.) Prisoners in Iceland can earn weekend passes because, guess what, they’re human beings and it’s kind of nice that they’re able to function normally in society once they’re released.
So I’m [grinds teeth] okay with Shkreli’s sentence.
Gin & Tonic
@tobie: Well, DJIA was +440 today, so whatevs, I guess.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic: Strong job numbers, I think.
cthulhu
Even Shrkeli’s lawyer finds his face to be punchable:
And of course, there is this great piece about the jury selection: https://harpers.org/archive/2017/09/public-enemy/
Corner Stone
@Baud:
Stronger job numbers than expected, yes. But just as important for Wall Street is that wages remain stagnant at 0.1% growth.
Baud
@Corner Stone: Win-win.
Baud
We’re back!
Corner Stone
Nicolle Wallace turned her head a certain way and for a moment it looked like she was wearing pigtails. I fainted.
ruemara
@LAO: YAY!
@Zinsky: The fuck is wrong with you?
Jack the Second
I think we’re looking at the next Trump pardon.
Corner Stone
@Baud: Goldilocks, as the vampire squid likes to say.
WereBear
@cthulhu: That was sadly hilarious.
jl
@Corner Stone: I agree, its the combo of strong job growth and continued weak to so-so real wage growth that is important. And if I may be so bold, this is something I have been predicting, and I think will continue until we get another 1 to 3 million more jobs created above trend growth rate. It is consistent with the Dean Baker theory that low employment population ratio is a hidden weakness in the labor market and makes unemployment rate a misleading indicator of how close we are to potential GDP.
If you look at similar types of people by age category gender, race and ethnicity, there are between 1 and 3 million fewer people working now than before recessions in 2001 and 2007-8.
Just tooting my own horn that I am, at least just this once, right about something. Probably get me fired as a Baud 2020 adviser, but what the hell, the campaign has been dishing out skunky beer again..
burnspbesq
@LAO:
I vote that he get sent to Yankton, SD—but only because BoP closed Boron, CA a few years ago. Boron would have been close enough to burning in hell to satisfy my desire for him to suffer.
stinger
@Hungry Joe: It might be even better to lock them up all weekend (when lots of people get into trouble of various kinds) and let them out weekdays, so they can continue to earn money/support their family/have a job when they get out.
burnspbesq
@raven:
Sweet music to these Duke blue ears.
Frank Wilhoit
Far be it from me to interrupt a good old-fashioned pile-on, but sadistic degradation is not one of ours, it is one of theirs. Don’t kick him when he’s down. You don’t have to help him up either, but don’t kick him. If he got what was coming to him (he did), and if that is a good thing (it is), it is because it wasn’t coming to him from the likes of us, but from the system. The system worked. That’s enough.
Gelfling 545
@schrodingers_cat: Yep, he’s got it all: conplete lack of self awareness, no moral compass, inability to filter his remarks, complete disregard for anyone who is not he, confidence that laws are for little people. Maybe if he gets out for good behavior soon enough he can run as Trump’s new vp.
Gelfling 545
@d58826: Not entirely convinced that meeting with Trump actually elevates anybody.
SFAW
@raven:
Sort of. She has Paul Ryan’s nuts in a jar of formaldehyde on a shelf behind her desk.
Amir Khalid
Say what you will about Shkreli, he has gone out of his way to help educate people on the meaning of Backpfeifengesicht and now Schadenfreude.
Barry
@LAO: ” I read his latest. I shrug my shoulders at the crazy. I have a hard time believing Trump is going to push out Jaranka.”
That’s the real thing – it looks like he thinks of Ivanka and Jared as his Real Children (the other two are maybe’s). They’ll stay on forever, destroying any threats to their power over Trump.
Barry
@trollhattan: “I take Steven Miller as that person whose emotions run the gamut from scorn to rage. He’ll tell the judge just what he’ll do to him for this outrage, and how hard.”
I would pay seriously good money for that. I think that he’d be stupid enough to pull his ‘nobody shall defy….’ sh*t on a judge while awaiting sentencing.
Barry
@trollhattan: ““WH staff shakeup coming…” means exactly what to a WH that turns its staff over completely every two months? How would anybody know?”
It means that Javanka hold all positions in the WH, with a few dregs brought in to serve them.
It means a WH which is even worse than the current one.