Week starts, Trump trails. 4 ways to close gap: Wikileaks/Oct surprise; hidden Trump vote; RNC ground game; win 2 debates.
— Mark Halperin (@MarkHalperin) October 3, 2016
Mark Halperin needs his man-crush to get out there and compete!!!
“Wikileaks/Oct surprise”…
Due to security concerns at the Ecuadorian Embassy, Julian Assange's balcony announcement on Tues has been cancelled, per @wikileaks
— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) September 30, 2016
“hidden Trump vote”…
Tough Clinton ad about Trump's taxes: "If he thinks that makes him smart, what does he think of you?" https://t.co/i14DA5U2u0
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 3, 2016
“RNC ground game”… PBS Newshour:
As the presidential election marathon breaks into a final sprint, the Trump campaign faces a jaw-dropping gap in the ground game: Hillary Clinton currently has more than three times the number of campaign offices in critical states than does Donald Trump. Those figures include both Trump offices and Republican National Committee victory offices, as confirmed by the Trump campaign….
“win 2 debates”… hahahahahahahahahaha…
Some sort of Leftovers "Sudden Departure" scenario; Trump takes Betty White hostage; suddenly smart; NBC offers new show, he quits https://t.co/0K61LAYcyO
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) October 3, 2016
Apart from working to break Halperin’s tiny shriveled heart, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
Keith P.
Option #5 (an old favorite): Declare victory and withdraw.
Baud
From what I’m reading, Clinton was strong in NC today. Anyone see the video?
Barbara
Security concerns at the Ecuadorian embassy could cover a lot of potential scenarios. Like, Ecuador told Assange they wouldn’t give him more security if he kept releasing hacked information?
dr. bloor
Looks like Ecuador wants their sofa back.
Elmo
After taking a yuuuge chunk of September off, it’s back to the travel grind. Hi from Tampa! Next week: New England! Then Chicago, and after that San Francisco.
This is how you get to take a first-class vacation on points and miles alone.
MomSense
My dog is there a worse hack than Mark Halperin? I seem to recall that back in 2008 Obama made a flippant comment about checking Halperin’s blog first and if he thought Obama was in big trouble it meant he was having a good day.
Face
What does “Wikileaks/Oct surprise” mean? Does Pedophile Assange have something damning, or more emails detailing HRC’s makeup routine and breakfast proclivities?
Also….”hidden Trump voters”…..say what? Are they all behind trees or inside refrigerator cardboard boxes?
eric
I am just waiting for Trump to argue that he wins if we go back to the 3/5 compromise.
Villago Delenda Est
@Face: Somehow, a revelation about a yoga class is going to turn this entire shebang around.
Trust me. Hugely.
Mnemosyne
@Barbara:
That was exactly my thought, too.
hueyplong
I hope Halpern realizes that his hero is pretty big on the element of surprise when dealing with un-American villains and doesn’t appreciate his letting us (and Hitlery) know that something yuuuuge is coming from Wikileaks that will turn California red.
Major Major Major Major
@Face: The theory, I think, is that Trump voters are so ashamed to be Trump voters that they’re not even telling pollsters.
Given that Trump voters do not seem to be shy about it (and that Mark Halperin/the usual suspects are saying it), I’m thinking this is a stupid bullshit theory.
Keith P.
Slightly OT, but is there any working theory as to why Donald Trump’s hair changed color in the late 90s? It was a kind of dirty blond/brown, but now it’s that piss-blonde. Is going blonde instead of gray a thing?
On the plus side, over the last year, I finally figured out the various directions of his hair (there was a time when I couldn’t figure out what directions his hair was taking). SCIENCE!
Mnemosyne
@Elmo:
There are worse times of the year to be in Chicago. Hopefully you’ll have time for a walk by the lakefront.
Baud
@Barbara: You are assuming he’s not making the whole thing up.
peach flavored shampoo
@Barbara: I took it to mean Ecuador was expecting him to get sniped as he stood out on the balcony and said stupid shit. Or perhaps pushed from behind.
At this point, I’d think they’re quite tired of him. Perhaps move his bed and binkie into the street and tell him to GTFO?
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I heard Hillary droned him and replaced him with a body double.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: That, plus substantively strong too, from what I’m reading.
MomSense
@efgoldman:
She can sing in the morning?! I’m envious. I tried to pick up my violin after many years. As it turns out, it was too many. Now I’m thinking I may try and sing again. I miss rehearsing. Crazy right!
Punchy
With Trump dropping so precipitously in the polls, someone needs to put Sean Hannity on suicide watch.
On second thought, please dont.
JMG
We can assume from that tweet Halperin will insist Trump has won the next two debates.
Humdog
I figure a private word from Sec. John Kerry to the Ecuadoreans that they mess with our election from their embassy, we consider that an act of war, should end ASSange (that was spell check’s spelling, not mine!) couch surfing.
Trollhattan
@Keith P.:
Maybe Trump can arrange a photo-op of him flying away from the former American Embassy in former Saigon in the TRUMP heli?
Mnemosyne
@Keith P.:
My mom went platinum blonde when she got gray enough. Of course, she admits that she dyes her hair, unlike The Donald.
It’s a very popular color for older women — that’s why Hillary is a blonde now.
Anne Laurie
@Face:
The original ‘October surprise‘ was Roger Stone’s boss/mentor Nixon secretly making a deal to extend the Vietnam War so that Tricky Dick would have a better chance at the White House. The second ‘October surprise’ was Reagan’s dirty boyz making a deal with the Ayatollah to keep the American hostages until after Reagan could win the presidency. So presumably Roger Stone has some kind of treason in mind to help elevate his new meal ticket to the White House… but how Assange releasing the details in advance of the election is supposed to help the Repubs, I’m not twisted enough to comprehend.
Cacti
@peach flavored shampoo:
I had read somewhere that saint Julian had a previous scuffle with embassy security when he was caught poking around in a secure area.
Vlad must be paying them handsomely to keep him holed up there.
Mnemosyne
@Face:
He’s finally going to tell us exactly how much her highlights cost.
Mary G
Halperin seems to think that catching up with Dick Morris and Bill Kristol in the pundit stakes is a good thing. It’s not golf, Mark, the lowest score doesn’t win.
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
Isn’t that what pre-planning is for?
rawhide rawlins
@Keith P.: I thought it recently turned from orange to “presidential silver”. Could be the lighting.
Fake as can be nontheless.
rk
I don’t understand why he’s waited till October. If he has something that’ll end her campaign and get her indicted then why wait? And what could Hillary possibly write in her emails that will get her indicted? She seems far too smart and cautious to be engaging in criminal conspiracies via e-mail.
Bobby Thomson
@Face: Assange has been threatening for weeks to release whitey tape 2.0. At this point he has about as much cred as Larry Johnson.
Southern Beale
Not getting the attention it deserves is this report from Newsweek:
Yes, the shit he said about Miss Universe and vets with PTSD is awful, but I really wish we’d spend more time talking about how he outsourced not just his cheap branded crap, but also the actual fucking materials used to build his casinos. He supposedly “won” the first 10 minutes of the first debate when he hammered on about trade deals and China and Mexico taking our jobs. Hillary needs to hammer him on how he’s the worst outsourcer.
And how the FUCK is he winning in Ohio? Seriously?
Trollhattan
@Mnemosyne:
Think her phrasing was “The hair is real, the color is not.” Which I loved both for the dig in pt1 and the self-deprecation in pt2.
Stacy
Mark Halperin called Obama a dick on Morning Joe. Has any other president been called that by the “liberal media”?
Villago Delenda Est
@peach flavored shampoo:
This is what I’m hoping for. Nothing like an uninvited house guest overstaying his welcome by years. Perhaps they should call Bette Midler in?
lamh36
@efgoldman: Since we are talking singing…I came across a clip yesterday of the current Broadway Color Purple cast singing to departing cast member Heather Headley. Lead by Cynthia Erivo and Danielle Brooks (fro OITNB) the case sang “I Won’t Complain” a gospel classic to Ms Headley.
Whatever ur religious belief (or non belief), I dare anyone not to be moved by these voices…
From the Broadway Black group page, check it out at about the 3:30 mark..
Today the cast of The Color Purple Musical said farewell to Shug Avery Heather Headley. This happy trails lead by Cynthia Erivo & Danielle Brooks will make you say “I Won’t Complain.” ? by #BroadwayBlack
I swear to you I’d been listening to the brief clip they posted on twitter yesterday for most of last night and today
jl
i guess Halperin went into corporate media political coverage because no way he could make it as a shady racetrack tout.
‘hidden Trump vote’ and ‘RNC ground game’ would make a big difference if they existed. But finding those is about as realistic as Trump’s ‘policy proposal’ of ‘Get All the Oil’.
As for devastating HRC October surprise, well, we will see.
Trump winning next two debates is also unknown but I would put the chances of that at closer to ‘Get All the Oil’ than a damaging HRC revelation.
Baud
@rk: I don’t think he has Hillary’s emails. He has the DNC’s emails. But it’s all so confusing, I could be wrong.
geg6
I cannot un-see that photo of Halperin, grinning like the village idiot, in Trump’s helicopter a few months ago. He was on the edge of orgasm. Just disgusting. I had no respect for him before that but I now actively hate him.
Barbara
@Mnemosyne: @Keith P.: Most stylists firmly believe that lighter hair makes your face look younger.
Major Major Major Major
@Southern Beale:
sukabi
@Face: hidden drumpf votes, some people say, will be delivered via Russian hack… or the folks that have been snorting lead paint will accept their new programming and pull the lever for drumpf, could be both. It’s hard to tell.
lamh36
I’m never surprised by Halperin. He’s gotta keep in Trump’s good graces if him and Heilemen want to write their next Game Changer bestseller…bleh. Especially since Obama messed up their chances to write one for the Romney camp….
Steeplejack (phone)
@efgoldman:
Reminding yourself it’s not Musburger or Al Michaels helps a little.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
I would have been more upset by “Hamilton” not winning the Tony for Best Lead Actress if I hadn’t previously seen EriVo in full voice. She is truly amazing.
Hal
A balcony announcement? Is Assange fucking Evita now?
FlipYrWhig
@Keith P.: As hair gets whiter, some colors don’t stick as well. He probably went from gray dyed light brown to white dyed henna-verging-on-Fozzie Bear. My grandmother had orange-ish/reddish hair for a long time.
jacy
@Baud:
I saw a bit of it — she was like a steamroller.
I’ve been watching the Morning Joe — Halperin is getting pissier and pissier as time goes on….. His smirk gets any tighter it’s going to rip his face in half.
Villago Delenda Est
@Hal: Or perhaps Rudy Ghouliani?
lamh36
@Mnemosyne: Right…and who knew Danielle Brooks could blow like that!
As for Erivo, she’s the singer of one of my fav movie songs of recent years… Fly Before You Fall from Beyond The Lights (which stars Nate Parker…unfortunately)
I heard this song once, and I swear I listened to it on a loop
Mike E
@Hal:
She’s all he’s got, now that he’s in exile
Feebog
Speaking of singing at your own funeral, my late Grandfather did just that. He was part-time preacher and several recordings of him leading the choir at Sunday services were played at the beginning and end of the funeral. The only problem was that Grandpa had one of the worst singing voices ever heard. People were cringing at the thought of one more gospel song.
MomSense
@lamh36:
Wonderful.
burnspbesq
ICYMI, a panel of the Seventh Circuit gutted, filleted, and seared Mike Pence the other day.
Ryan
Crushing Halperin’s soul, I mean, is there any greater purpose in life?
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@geg6:
Well, even worse IMO is that Halperin’s fellow passenger on the helicopter flight, taking happy selfies of herself with The Donald, was ABC’s Martha Raddatz.
Yes, that would be the same Martha Raddatz who is co-moderating the Town Hall debate next Sunday.
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
#1: Assange has nothing, never had anything, and was just shooting his mouth off. Republicans have been promising that they’re about to release the evidence that will put Hillary away for years.
#2: So far, hidden voters of all kinds have been predicted in elections and failed to materialize.
#3: Hell if I know what a difference the ground game gap will make. I don’t think anyone has ever been in this position. A couple of percentage points in our favor over polls would ensure a brutal Trump shellacking.
#4: Could happen. It doesn’t seem likely, since Chump has gone into ‘gibbering apoplexy’ mode, and the basic gap in competence between Hillary and Chump hasn’t changed. Still, good days and bad days happen. I’m crossing my fingers for another brutal crushing in the second debate, and a canceled third debate because he can’t take being humiliated by a woman again.
Gravenstone
@Southern Beale: And how the FUCK is he winning in Ohio? Seriously?
Entirely too many people in my home state are deeply stupid. They are (proud) living embodiments of Obama’s “clinging” people.
Barbara
@Major Major Major Major: Not sure where you got this. According to the Census Bureau estimated Ohio population by race:
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2015, 79.8% (around 2.3% lower than 2010)
Black or African American alone, percent, July 1, 2015, 12.7% (.5% higher than 2010)
Asian alone, percent, July 1, 2015, 2.1% (.5% higher than 2010)
Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2015, 3.6% (.5% higher than 2010)
The voting age population will skew whiter, probably closer to 2010 numbers, but still not as high as you indicated.
Steve in the ATL
@Hal:
And, if so, is it consensual?
schrodinger's cat
@Anne Laurie: I sent you the second dispatch of the weekend movie club, rather late yesterday.
*sad face*.
Did you get it.?
Mike J
@Southern Beale:
Why Trump Will Do Better in Ohio Than He Does Nationally And why that doesn’t guarantee he’ll win the state
RaflW
I can only hope that the many flying monkeys like Halperin are as discredited when this election is over as Trump will be.
MomSense
@schrodinger’s cat:
Wait, did I miss Queen?
Brachiator
@Face:
Binders. Binders full of voters.
RaflW
@Mike J:
New poll shows Trump leads Clinton 47-42 in Ohio
Toledo Blade – 3 hours ago
Peale
@Ryan: we could steal his women, but why bother?
Joyce H
I can’t understand why the news media even wants this to be a tight race. If it’s a tight race, that makes it… well, just like every other election. If they spend their whole career covering politics they’ll cover ten or more presidential elections, all pretty dang similar.
But! One candidate completely melting down in the homestretch as more and more negative information comes out about him, going goo-goo wackobird on stage to the cheers of followers, and ending with a landslide blowout for the sane candidate – now, that’s something that’s never happened before!
Schlemazel
@efgoldman:
candy flavored booze, more proof of the infantalizing of the American consumer. We ‘grown-ups’ now have gummy bear vitamins (the one from one-a-day require you to take two a day!) are buying more sugar breakfast foods and coke is becoming the breakfast drink of choice.
I’ll have Omnes’ stroke for him
James E Powell
@Southern Beale:
I’m not so sure he’s going to win Ohio, but the polls do look dismal. There are places where Trump’s anti-immigrant and trade rants would sell with people who’d otherwise vote Democrat. I’d be looking at the Youngstown area – they elected Traficant for years – and the suburbs and cities west of Cleveland.
Mnemosyne
@Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck:
I like the sound of that. I say we all pound the pavement and knock on doors to try and make it happen.
(Or at least bug people on the phone. Or bring healthy snacks to your local campaign office. Even having some pre-paid Chinese food delivered to them would help.)
scav
What kind of loser, I mean a loser like only a handful of divided divides can put up with, only I know how to multiply, and do I multiply, look at what I multiplied, my daughter Ivanka, who wouldn’t want to multiply with her back off she’s taken but look at the multiplication and I don’t announce things, and what kind of loser announces a surprise at October 3 noon?
Steve in the ATL
@burnspbesq:
Lay people may not get what a burn that was! And it’s nice to see that right wing hack Easterbrook doing the right thing for a change.
Who the hell tries to win a case without presenting actual evidence? I know Pence is a dunce, but surely his legal team knew better. Surely some RW “think” tank had some bogus data that they could have offered to provide at least a colorable claim.
Ryan
It’s pronounced Gchynaaaa.
schrodinger's cat
@MomSense: Nope, AL hasn’t yet FPed it, I only sent it to her last night but it is on my teeny tiny blog, if you click my blue nym.
Mnemosyne
@Schlemazel:
Meh, I was drinking Coke for breakfast in the 1980s. And I’d rather chew a gummy vitamin than try to swallow a capsule the size of a quarter.
No, I refuse to get off your lawn!
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: I am glad to know it exists, It will be easier to avoid now that I know about it.
PhoenixRising
@Southern Beale:
My people, who want their jobs back mining coal and smelting it into steel and aluminum, are not well-educated. But I think this story is a killer.
What I’d love to be able to post on FB: How much off the Alcoa bid was the Guangzhou Aluminum price? He spent $350MM on one building in aluminum alone, but what did he pocket by using Chinese metal?
Was this ‘I can’t leave $120,000 on the table even if I’m participating in the conspiracy to kill American steel’?
Or was it a discount that says ‘Even an idiot could have seen that this savings of 60% off the domestic price is being subsidized by the Chinese state to kill American steel’?
Either way the % off tells a story.
Does it show that he’s an alleged billionaire who would kill 12,000 jobs in OH, PA, WV, KY & MN for an amount that should be a rounding error to him?
Or that he’s a chump and a cheapskate, who can’t figure out that he’s being used as a pawn by a foreign power that wants to destroy America’s capacity to build the planes and tanks we will hopefully never need to settle a bet with that foreign power?
Mnemosyne
I feel a little guilty because I got snippy with one of the managers here at work because I’m so dang tired from my campaign trip. Once I explained and apologized, she understood, but now I know that if I do another weekend campaign trip, I need to take the day off AFTER it, not before.
Punchy
In the Wow! But Really, Who Gives a Fuck category, Ron Paul is supporting Jill ‘Auntie Vaxxer’ Stein.
In likewise important news, my dog just pooped.
schrodinger's cat
@Mnemosyne: Target’s sour gummies are the best!
Baud
@RaflW: Ouch. I can’t believe Clinton is doing so well in the elecoral college prediction without Iowa and Ohio.
scav
@Punchy: Huzzah! Who’s a good boy!
Baud
@Punchy: I saw that earlier. 2016 is so strange.
Felonius Monk
@efgoldman: L’shanah tovah, Mr. efg.
Regarding Gruden, I probably find him less irksome than you, but turning the sound down sounds like a capital idea.
LAO
@Steve in the ATL: It’s nice to see that reliance on well known RW truths, is not actually credible evidence in a federal court of law outside the 5th Circuit.
Tonight, I’m celebrating puppy Maggie’s first outside pee (after repeated hallway urinations, I’m the best neighbor!)
Major Major Major Major
@Barbara: ah, looks like i pulled an old census on accident.
Baud
@LAO: So happy about the puppy.
randy khan
@burnspbesq:
If it’s filleting of a stupid argument you want, Judge Posner is your guy. He used to be a righty law and economics guy, but since he realized he’d been had in the voting restrictions case, he’s been very good. And he writes really well.
PhoenixRising
EXACTLY. You’d think that the Man Bites Dog nature of what is happening in front of us all, hour by hour, would be a riveting enough story to command the clicks they need to survive & commit journalism. Horse races happen every 4 years like it’s in the Constitution…this exploding candidate with no appreciable campaign is a once-in-a-lifetime story.
They are witnessing the sinking of the Titanic & reporting on the menu for the evening of departure. It’s really astonishing.
thafax
@James E Powell: FWIW I think Obama owed his 2012 win in OH to Romney opposing the auto bailout. Has anyone asked Trump if he would have let GM fail?
MomSense
@schrodinger’s cat:
Ok. I’ll check it out.
Roger Moore
@Keith P.:
With enough dye, all hair colors are possible.
randy khan
I suspect that Halperin didn’t mean it that way, but another way to read his list is to say that Trump needs some really improbable event to happen to win the election.
Hal
@Mike J:
Interesting
cynn
BUSINESS MODEL: Trump gets twitterpated and shorts the nation’s conscience.
Trollhattan
@Mnemosyne:
Pops head up to note I was in the “one and done” column when you quizzed the hive mind. That shit is draining, even absent the travel.
Omnes Omnibus
Reposting from last night: L’shana Tovah to our Jewish Juicers.
scav
@Baud: Iowa doesn’t matter in the electoral collage. It elbows its way to the front and was once handy for early data on what was happening in the middle but after that? If it was important in the electoral college, it would have had a lot less reason to cling so desperately to first billing for the limelight.
Baud
@scav: If Iowa does do Trump, I hope the Dems revisit the whole first in the nation thing.
Major Major Major Major
@Roger Moore: doesn’t hair sort of start to like melt or something after enough bleach?
Lyrebird
@MomSense: I actually really strongly agreed with Halperin’s statement on Morning Joe (per Raw Story)
Enhanced Voting Techinques
@Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck:
Candidates have devoted a lot effort to GOTV since ancient Athens, so it’s hard to believe it’s no big deal. For example Lincoln personally managed his own ground game in all of his elections he thought it was so important.
Calouste
@Joyce H: You’re suggesting media personalities do actual work instead of mindlessly repeating the horse-race, both-sides-do-it narrative?
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: You trying to start a new Clinton rumor?
Mnemosyne
@Trollhattan:
Yeah, contrary to how I appear on here, I’m actually pretty introverted IRL, so having to talk to strangers all weekend long was quite draining. That’s the other reason I’m a little snippy today.
sukabi
@Hal:
Read that as bedwetter…
Emma
@lamh36: Holy God those are voices!
scav
@Baud: I’d just stop worrying so much about order and reading once-more-relevant chicken entrails: there’s a lot more data about and there are far more important things to fix in the system of primaries.
MJS
@Punchy: I volunteer to watch Sean Hannity commit suicide. No, scratch that. I’ll pay top dollar to watch it.
Trollhattan
@Mnemosyne:
Count me among the cohort who could only survive in sales for products that sell themselves (“And how many bottles of Pliny the Younger would you like?”). Do not have the gift of gab with strangers, especially not when it comes to outright persuasion.
“Yes voting is boring. Do it anyway and vote for her!”
Baud
@scav: Agree there are more important things, but working on the timing should be among the reforms.
les
@PhoenixRising:
Too likely to offend too many of their readers (and owners). Their target audience has been clear for a while.
Trollhattan
@MJS:
“C’mon Sean, set those Freedom Slugs ™ free into your thick noggin!”
Mary G
@burnspbesq: That was a lovely bit of writing. My favorite:
Baud
@les: Right. If the Dem were flailing, then they’d completely change their MO.
sukabi
@Major Major Major Major: hair DOES melt if it’s colored too many times in a short period of time… my daughter at age 15 decided to lighten her hair and go blonde, like when she was younger…first time left a greenish cast to her hair, so she tried to correct it with another shade which turned it bluish…instead of giving it a rest like I told her she went for 3 and called me in to “fix” it…nothing to do but cut it short as it was literally a melty, breaking off mess…
Lyrebird
@Omnes Omnibus: To you and burns esq and so forth – I tried to find the link again on the AAPI for Hilary page, but got lost. But here’s the point – at least a few weeks ago, the HRC/TK campaign was asking lawyers to volunteer to do upstanding lawyery things to help challenge any unconstitutional voter challenges. Something like that. To legally have the back of voters who are subject to intimidation.
ETA: I am no more of a sports writer than I am a lawyer, but I am sure hoping for an HRC-TK-TKO!!!!!!
Omnes Omnibus
@Lyrebird: I am already on it.
Enhanced Voting Techinques
@Lyrebird: “
So the Clinton Conspiracy(tm) has even turned Trump against himself. No wonder Trump says he’s sure the election is rigged.
Roger Moore
@Punchy:
Sounds like personal animosity to me. I can’t think of another reason he’d go for Stein instead of Johnson or, more likely, stay home.
burnspbesq
@Steve in the ATL:
Keep the procedural posture of the case in mind (preliminary injunction). Also don’t rule out the possibility that Indiana tanked so that Pence would have an opportunity to dump on eebil Chicago libruls.
Seanly
@Face:
Crackers who don’t want to say that they’ll vote for Trump. I expect that there might be more hidden Clinton supporters. Women whose hubbies say to vote Trump and then the wife does as she damn well pleases in the voting booth.
Roger Moore
@randy khan:
Posner seems like the rare holdout from the days of conservative intellectualism. He may have conservative views of the way things should be, but he hasn’t followed the rest of the conservative herd by blinding himself to the way they actually are.
? Martin
@PhoenixRising:
“‘gina is manipulating their currency, dumping goods on the market, blah blah blah, I had to do what was best for my investors – I needed to look out for them because I work for them – but now I need to look out for you because I work for you and I’ll get the US workers as good a deal on jobs as I got for my investors on steel and aluminum.”
Done. And they’ll buy it.
burnspbesq
@Lyrebird:
Thanks for the reminder.
? Martin
@Mary G: I kind of liked this little bit of added shade:
Cheap Jim, formerly Cheap Jim
@Mary G: Come now. Everyone knows Syrians love basketball.
Seanly
@Southern Beale:
To be fair, everyone buys their steel from overseas nowadays. The only heavy construction industry that uses much USA-produced steel at this point is highway and bridges since the states and feds can legally have Buy American provisions.
hovercraft
@Baud:
I didn’t check the full thread so if you already got this sorry.
Here is the full speech. It was a good one.
Baud
@? Martin: Yeah, people support Trump because of race. Trade is irrelevant.
Roger Moore
@Major Major Major Major:
Why would you need to bleach when your hair is losing its color?
Baud
@hovercraft: Thanks.
Omnes Omnibus
@hovercraft: Bad link.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
Thanks!
Face
@sukabi: It’s almost there.
different-church-lady
@Feebog: The famous story is that Spike Milligan openly hoped he outlived his fellow Goon Harry Seacome, so that Seacome would be unable to sing at Milligan’s funeral.
It backfired: even though Seacome died first, they played a recording of Seacome singing at Milligan’s funeral.
Roger Moore
@srv:
Apparently not Sarah Palin. She was right nearby and did nothing!
hovercraft
@hovercraft:
Lets try this again.
EDIT: this one works
gogol's wife
@Southern Beale:
I don’t think Hillary’s crew will let this go by unnoticed.
Dork
@srv: word on the street was that there was a grey, furry accomplice sporting a hat. Russia has offered Boris Badenov and Natasha to assist the investigation.
Relatedly, is there a better Boris song than this? Answer: heyul no.
Enhanced Voting Techinques
I ask myself “so what would a shameless, serial lying, orange haired weasel who has to see himself as the winner at all costs would say?” and my prediction for Trump’s concession speech if Hillary wins is: Trump pats himself on back, claims he supported Hillary all along AND he made her a better president by calling her out on her short comings,
LABiker
I was flipping around the channels last night and caught a couple of minutes of The Circus on Showtime. I think Halperin’s a producer or something, which makes him a masochist. The few minutes I watched had Halperin saying the Alicia Machado problem was going to be gone the day after the debate, nobody’s gonna care, nothing for Trump to worry about. The very next frame was a screenshot of the early Friday morning Twitter freakout from Trump. I can’t believe people pay Halperin for his “services,” unless they’re just doing it for the laugh.
sukabi
@ This made me laugh…
I'll be Frank
@Enhanced Voting Techinques: Just because everyone has been doing it the same way forever doesn’t mean it is really necessary. Look at how well Eddie Lampert is doing with Sears.
Mary G
I missed the morning threads, so sorry if this is a repeat. Today is POTUS and FLOTUS’s anniversary. Nancy LeTourneau at WaMo has the video of them dancing at the inaugural ball to “At Last” sung by Beyonce. Bey can hardly keep from crying with joy by the end, and it is so good to remember that feeling. Surely the America that chose Obama won’t fall for Trump.
SuzieC
@Gravenstone:
Yes, sadly. My home state sucks this time around. Many downwardly mobile white WC voters in Eastern Ohio, Youngstown area, & Appalachian Ohio will join the diehard Rs in Cincinnati suburbs. I still believe that solidly blue big cities will turn out and carry Ohio for Clinton.
Punchy
@efgoldman: Let’s not discuss commentors stroking other commentors during dinner hour. In about one hour, stroke each other all ya want.
Omnes Omnibus
@Punchy: @efgoldman: All y’all better keep your grubby little hands well clear of me.
peach flavored shampoo
@Dork: that video is solid. Straight 80’s look and feel and 6th-rate production values, but the song is money. Goddamn earworm. Asshole.
Matt McIrvin
@Joyce H: But if the melting-down coocoobird really could be President anyway, that adds an element of terror, absurdity and exhilaration that makes the story all the more irresistible.
TS
@Hal:
I would have thought Juliet (may not be original, I’m late reading the thread)
Ivan X
I went to phone bank for H today. Found myself depressed (many hangups) and didn’t stay as long as I’d hoped. I gave a bunch of money though. Sorry everybody. I really do want to save our beautiful country, I swear.
Mnemosyne
@LABiker:
To be fair, Halperin probably would have been right if Trump had had enough self-control to not tweet about her and show the whole world how much the whole thing rattled him.
schrodinger's cat
@Roger Moore: Doctors always stick together!
Major Major Major Major
@Roger Moore: you said with enough dye any color is possible, but that’s not true for all people since you can’t always get to a true white.
Baud
@Ivan X: Many hangups are normal. Thanks for everything you’re doing.
Mike J
The White House @WhiteHouse 45 minutes ago
“It is my anniversary today…24 years @FLOTUS has put up with me.” —@POTUS at #SXSL
mike in dc
I expect Cole to take a flamethrower later to Trump over the PTSD comments. Audie Murphy had PTSD. Was he just “weak”?
BR
@Ivan X:
You can always ask them to switch you to volunteer recruitment if once in a while to keep your spirits up. Or even data entry. There’s a need for all sorts of things.
sukabi
@Enhanced Voting Techinques: short comings… isn’t that why Ivana divorced him?
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
And if Trump were capable of doing that, he might be a decent candidate. But we’re dealing with the universe we live in, not the universe we might like to live in.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Mike J:
Happy anniversary to the best POTUS and FLOTUS this country has been blessed to have in my lifetime!
And how cool is it that Barack went to SXSW and liked the idea of it so much he came back and created SXSL (South Lawn)? Love love love this Prez.
BR
@Roger Moore:
I can — can you say Russia Today? Both Ron Paul and Jill Stein are favorites of RT. IIRC, Ron Paul used to get featured by RT all the time.
Mary G
Two encouraging anecdotal comments from Daniel Larison’s post about Trump’s lack of ground game in Pennsylvania:
japa21
@Mnemosyne: And that is the larger point. It isn’t so much about Machado anymore, just like it didn’t really end up about the Kahn’s. It is about Trump’s inability to resist temptation and how he can truly be triggered by little things into massive overreactions. This is about his overall temperament. Yes, it still shows he is a bigoted, misogynistic SOB, but even more importantly, he can’t even display a brief modicum of self control.
Roger Moore
@mike in dc:
I’m going to take the unpopular position that Trump’s comments in this case have been taken out of context and blown out of proportion. In context, he was decrying how little we’re doing for vets with PTSD and how the VA needs to do more. He may have been a jackass in the way he said it, but his policy position was actually reasonable.
Anoniminous
@Ivan X:
Ahead of the curve if you got more than 8 out of a hundred to talk to you.
Thanks for doing that.
Lyrebird
@burnspbesq: Hey, thanks for the thanks! (No surprise Omnes, great sifter of the Internet, was on it already…)
:-)
japa21
@Mary G: That comment about 10,000 Trump signs representing 2,000 supporters rings true. We don’t have a lot of Trump signs around here, but every house that does has at least 2-4 signs. Again, obviously overcompensation for other shortcomings.
raven
@efgoldman: Raise a noise
SFAW
Maybe already noted, but TPM quotes Trump as explaining his 1995 3-gazillion-dollar NOL as being due to “coming out of the worst economic downturn since Gutenberg started printing money.” Must have been a local phenomenon, focused on one or two establishments-that-FYWP-will-put-me-in-jail-for-naming.
He also talked about “fiduciary responsibility” not to pay more taxes than necessary. Except weren’t those returns personal income tax, not corporate? Or does it not matter?
If I had a buck for every time that shitgibbon lied, I could buy Trump Tower.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Shouty argument about whether or not Trump is a successful businessman on the Hayes show (Michael Steele in good apparatchik mode against Hayes, Neera Tanden and for some reason Andrew Sullivan). No one is mentioning his father’s money and political connections.
I should be on the TV.
japa21
@Roger Moore: But, he still stated they needed assistance because they were weak. The implication being if they were stronger they wouldn’t need the assistance to begin with. I agree with him, as does Clinton, that more can be done and should be done for vets with PTSD, but he is playing the old,” people with mental health issues are weak and not tough enough to handle life” card.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I wonder if Hayes will ask Steele what he thinks about RNC spokesman Sean Spicer bragging about a new “Willie Horton style campaign”, then lying about it.
BruceFromOhio
Might as well add “ride a unicorn across the Hudson.”
Tonight’s agenda is:
Drinking and fixing technology, because gosh darnit, people like technology, and while it pays my bills, sometimes it just breaks my heart.
mike in dc
@Roger Moore:
But how you express yourself matters. If Biden or Clinton or Obama had put things this way, would Team Red have been charitable in their take on the remarks?
Botsplainer
Anybody having trouble with Apple TV after all the updates? Both seem bricked – one won’t even see the house wifi anymore, even when reset. The other won’t leave the sign in cycle.
Baud
Why is Andrew Sullivan on my TV?
BruceFromOhio
@Face:
Clickbait.
@Baud: Because ur doin it rong.
Iowa Old Lady
@Ivan X: Don’t take it personally. I get half a dozen phone calls every day. I usually don’t answer. You’re doing a good thing.
I’m hoping that since Mr IOL and I have both already voted, the number of calls will drop off because only the pollsters will remain.
Punchy
Trump anecdote: a few years back (long before Trump discovered politics), we stayed at the Encore in Vegas. Trump Tower easily visible. So we asked the bell-hop about the tower. Said–incredibly–it actually didnt have a casino in it. A Trump building in Vegas lacked a casino. I was stunned. Then he said it was only ~15% occupied, and one reason was that his was the only building in Vegas that forced owners to pay a monthly rate for parking. So supposed Casino Guy couldnt bother to actually own one in dogdamn Sin City, and was cheapskate enough to attempt to skim parking fees from owners.
I got the distinct impression they hated him quite strongly.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
Really glad you’re here to tell us about it.
And best of luck to mrs. efg with her audition, I hope she feels better.
But about that “singing in the morning” thing — big deal, I sing just as well in the early morning as I do in the afternoon or evening.
Of course, unlike your wife’s lovely voice, my singing has been known to make strong men weep, and children run screaming from the neighborhood.
Punchy
Help! In moderation. Forgot about the c@sin0 FYWP sheeot
JMG
@Baud: When TV wants drama, who better than the man for whom all life is a melodrama. Every election, Andrew is “The Death of Little Nell.”
Roger Moore
@SFAW:
It certainly does matter. Fiduciary duty applies only when you’re in a position of trust looking after other people’s money; it means you have to put their interests ahead of your own. Trump has no business talking about fiduciary duties, since he utterly failed at them. The main way he dug himself out of the hole he was in in 1995 was to put himself in charge of a public company and use its money to buy his rotten personal assets at inflated prices. That’s exactly the kind of self dealing a fiduciary is supposed to avoid.
Peter
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m sure Trump is blowing the chauffeur in celebration.
Mnemosyne
@japa21:
I would say that the Clinton campaign knows how to push Trump’a buttons, but the guy is basically walking around with a giant red circle on his back that says, “Press Here.”
trollhattan
@mike in dc:
Guessing he never apologized for preferring guys “who weren’t captured” so he’s not walking this back.
scav
@Face:
I think it means they’ve moved into a new genre of publishing. Next up is November Upside Down cake.
bluehill
@Lyrebird:
I know Halperin will never admit this, but comments like these imply that Trump does have the “temperament” to be president and that he just made some dumb comments when it’s really the other way. Trump doesn’t have the “temperament” and he’s been trying to fake it ever since Conway/Bannon/Ailes came on board.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Peter: that one took me a minute
Patricia Kayden
@Keith P.: Donald’s hair? You mean the possum?
Looks like a hair transplant, so not real to me.
Roger Moore
@mike in dc:
Nope, but they’d still be wrong to do so; I don’t want to lower myself to their level. And part of the reason they’re always going after the Democrats on phony scandals is because of the lack of genuine ones- not something people going after Trump need to worry about.
Calouste
There’s an extra “c” in there, and it’s not in “announcement”.
different-church-lady
@Roger Moore: I had the same thought. But was I going to say so? Hell to the No.
BruceFromOhio
@Major Major Major Major: OH has been brutally ransacked. Manufacturing has fled, coal is the same old story, and agriculture is hard to distinguish from the monoculture of corn and soybeans. DHL folded tent and 10,000 jobs disappeared. The 2008 debacle never really went away. There are certainly bright spots, but if you don’t have college degree, or are over 50, OH is not a very friendly place. The two-bit ratfuck soulless criminals have a death grip on the legislature, and would make OH into KS in a heartbeat if they could. The slow, steady deterioration of, hell, just about everything in the public square, from infrastructure to the public education system, has been under relentless attack, or worse, malignant neglect. Much of OH is rural, and along the borders of West VA and KY, the level of abject poverty is heartbreaking. South of I-70 or west of I-71 is deep, bloody red, and Gaia love ’em the Democratic Party has a tough time finding people willing to tolerate the gauntlet of flaming shitballs it takes to run for office, much less to offer government as a solution after ‘government’ sold its soul to the fracking frackers.
Doesn’t take much to see why folks love the smell of the dumpster fire, because that means that someone else has caused all these problems, and is therefore to blame.
Peter H Desmond
@burnspbesq: that was nice to read! or at least sample.
Villago Delenda Est
@efgoldman: DING DING DING DING DING
Omnes Omnibus
@Peter: That was a puzzler for a couple of minutes.
Baud
@BruceFromOhio: Kay is in a rural Republican area of Ohio, and she said the economy is doing really well.
JMG
@BruceFromOhio: I was near Youngstown last weekend, and I didn’t see the state you describe. Not to say yours isn’t real, too, just that it’s a big place with lots of different realities. On average, my home state of Massachusetts is one of the most prosperous in the country. Go to the Connecticut River valley former mill towns, or southeast Mass. where fishing used to rule, it’s a different story.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@BruceFromOhio: I believe Kasich is one of most popular governors in the country? Also one of the most aggressive vote suppressers, as I understand, along with the SoS who beat Nina Turner by 20 points.
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
Which his primary opponents were somehow incapable of pushing.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@SFAW:
I once had the pleasure of meeting the goldmans (goldmen? goldpersons?) IRL for dinner. Better even than dessert was the fact that mrs efg sang Mozart’s “Alleluia” for me, in the restaurant parking lot, at 11:30 p.m. No accompaniment, she just opened her mouth and this incredible, beautiful sound emerged. I had goosebumps at the time, and still do in retrospect. Really, an extraordinary voice. I can well imagine that she’d nail an audition at some godforsaken hour of morning suffering from a Hillary-sized case of pneumonia.
Kathleen
@SuzieC: I’m seeing many Trump yard signs in Snoot – er – Blue Ash, where I work. Too much blathering at Blue Ash Y about Obama should be imprisoned blah blah blah. I go to the ‘burbs only because I work there or if I need to have my soul sucked.
BruceFromOhio
@Mike J: That’s a pretty accurate representation of my understanding of OH, and why it could easily go for Trump.
Plus there is just a Gaia-awful excess of dumbshit motherfuckers in this state. And by that I mean “walk in front of a speeding bus without looking” dumb. Gut the public education system early enough and with gusto, and you become dumb as a box of rocks just by breathing the fucking air.
Jeffro
@Mnemosyne: ” that was easy ”
If the Clinton campaign put that into a commercial just think of the multiplier effect it would have on his psyche over the years
Jeffro
@BruceFromOhio: yeah it’s tough… Ohio is part of James Webb’s blessed scots-Irish Appalachian belt between West Virginia and Kentucky, has a very high percentage of white population and lower percentage of college degrees… sad to say but fertile ground for Trump
Jim, Foolish Literalist
watching Christie and Rudi call Trump a “genius” is hilarious. I’d love to hear the tape of how Mr Trump told them to say it.
Baud
@Jeffro:maybe Webb should have been the nominee.
SFAW
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
Thanks for that story. I hope I am fortunate enough to hear her sing at some point.
Peter
@Roger Moore: … because all of his myriad idiocies are just regular GOP horseshit on steroids. They couldn’t step outside the bubble to puncture it without undercutting their entire raisons d’être.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Kelly Ayotte calls Trump a role model for children
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The clip was just on Hayes.
Joel
@RaflW: trump is median plus one in Ohio.
BruceFromOhio
@Baud: I don’t doubt that, as it really depends on where you are. Athens, OH, where Ohio University is home to some 16,000 Bobcats, is a really great place – the University acts like an engine and drives much of the local economy. Tourism picks up nicely in the area, with a lot of destination spots for bikers, beer enthusiasts, motorcycling, outdoor activities, leaf peepers. The surrounding counties are some of the poorest in the state, and do not share in the uptick of Athens. Cleveland is a splendid place to be, with several Fortune 500 companies, the Cleveland Clinic and several universities driving a diverse and energetic population. Within the city limits are zip codes that had the some of the highest rates of foreclosure per capita in the nation when the recession first got rolling.
So it really depends on where you are. MikeJ’s link upthread digs into the demo’s and the numbers in a way that no single location in OH can illustrate. A handy precis of OH rise, fall, and motion to rise again is in the tale of Youngstown: it is a case study of the state written in the history of a single city.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus:
And so say all of us.
Lyrebird
@bluehill: Completely agreed here:
. I can enjoy when someone like Halperin stumbles within a block or two of the truth. I can’t stomach the rictus-grin mouthpieces who can’t stop lying: Conway, Cortes, McEnany – thanks to JGC for introducing me to the force that is Angela Rye ….
Peter
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Totally OT, and not to diminish your sublime experience, but your nym has me obsessed with the notion of a liberal mob.
*Brando voice*
“That’s a pretty nice safe space you have there. It’d be a shame if someone triggered you.”
“I’m going to make him a fair and reasonable offer that he’d be foolish to refuse, because it’s in both our interests for him to accept.”
*Luca Brasi voice*
“I hope their first child, whatever its gender, identifies with that gender. I pledge my never-ending loyalty.”
Uncle Cosmo
@hovercraft: The hell it works. That vid is totally fucked. Black or frozen screen when it’s not jumping all over the place. Try again.
BruceFromOhio
@Peter: LOL, that is hilarious.
Imagine the whole of The Godfather rewritten for the pc police…
MJS
@Roger Moore: Stop making excuses for Trump. He said what he said. His exact words were that those with PTSD are maybe not as strong as those in his audience. If Trump wants people to understand what he means, he can learn to speak more clearly. Until that happens, his words are what he means to say.
sukabi
@SFAW: he was also trying to put the savings and loan crisis in Clinton’s lap even though Pappy Bush was being EM.BARE.ASSED by forgotten son Neil.
Miss Bianca
@Peter: Ah, the old jokes are always the best…
Carolina Dave
@Baud: I am cautiously optimistic. Which I am seldom because things outside of my control are rarely predictable. Governor McCrony is decreasingly unpopular, as is his signature masterwork HB2. Turnout will be all important as statewide races will fall accordingly. Gerrymandered legislative districts much less so.
Peter
@BruceFromOhio: Except the third one, obviously.
@efgoldman: I’m just here to help the ball club.
@Miss Bianca: Are you saying I’m old?
hovercraft
@Uncle Cosmo:
Um okay. you could also try the google to see if you can find a better version. Or you know, go fuck yourself.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Hoo boy, Joe Biden took a baseball bat to Trump on vets and PTSD
Miss Bianca
@Peter: No, that would have been “the old joker”…
Omnes Omnibus
@Peter: @Miss Bianca: She may be polite, but I’ll go there. You’re old.
Peter
@Omnes Omnibus: @Miss Bianca: What? Speak up. You kids today, with your cell phones and internets and STDs and no manners.
JR in WV
@burnspbesq:
Thank you Burns, that was great! It’s so good to have experts contributing in their areas. The decision was so short, and so sweet ~!!
Jeffro
@Baud:
Honestly, a guy like Webb would have been just about the perfect stealth nominee for the GOP. Scary to think about but it’s true.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Humdog:
Lost in all the right wing punditry and noise is the fact that the Executive holds a lot of cards in this election cycle – there are no wikileaks/Putin/Trump allies in the Obama administration who will participate in, or look the other way from, attempts to hack or otherwise interfere in this election. In fact, Obama’s prime directive between now and Nov. 8 is to have her back.
Jeffro
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Jeffro
On a not-completely Trumpian note: this crap drives me crazy. Jeff Flake is publicly hinting that the whole “no SCOTUS appt for Obama” thing is a sham (duh, Flake) and that perhaps the Senate should do its duty and confirm Garland before the nomination goes over to Hillz.
Oh HECK no, this has already gone on way too far. I’ll only be happy at this point if one of two scenarios plays out:
1) Obama tells McConnell he has until Election Eve to get Garland confirmed, or he’ll pull the nom. Highly unlikely given that Obama has tolerated the insult thus far, but still, our best option.
2) Clinton tells McConnell, confirm Garland a.s.a.p. AND apologize for the historic disrespect shown to PBO, or I’ll remind everyone you were waiting for Trump’s appointees every chance I get. And god help you if you end up in the minority come Nov 9th.
Major Major Major Major
GOS says the NRSC has canceled all its ad reservations in Wisconsin.
PIGL
@Mnemosyne: beats the blue rinse of former times.
Jeffro
And while I’m sending up TPM links, this is quite amazing: even the semi-loony Son of Ronaldus has had enough with the kkklown show.
Nickel bet that Trump calls Michael Reagan “stupid” and a “loser” at his next rally, because BELIEVE ME, we all know who Nancy Reagan REALLY would have supported…put that in your pipe and smoke it, Michael Reagan!!
Bobby Thomson
@Steve in the ATL: more than a lack of evidence. It was straight up racism. Key paragraph:
JR in WV
@Mary G:
Thank you for posting that… I’ve not seen it before, or heard Bey sing that well. Amazing performance, amazing crowd, amazing night. We watched a lot, very emotional day for most.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Woohoo!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Omnes Omnibus: I saw WI listed as “in play” for the presidential electiona couple of times on MSNB in the last few days. I found it very odd, especially given that Johnson seems to be doing so badly
This was during one of their breaks from the apparent belief that Ohio is the most important state in the electoral college
PIGL
@BruceFromOhio: And people keep electing the two-bit rat-fuck soulless criminals. I have been seen many heartbreakingly persuasive arguments that the reasons they do this call for pity, or at least sympathetic understanding. But fuck all that. Adult citizens are responsible for the consequences of their actions. Period.
Omnes Omnibus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I have trouble believing that anyone could vote Trump/Feingold. Johnson/Feingold also makes no sense.
JR in WV
@Punchy:
Because of his connections in New Jersey, the Nevada gaming commission (whatever they call the casino regulators out there) wouldn’t give him a license to run a tower with a casino in it.
So it’s just a big building, with no place of burning money downstairs.
ETA: speling.
Jeffro
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I think this election is going to disprove a whole bunch of convenient/lazy political-reporting myths. Looks like Virginia and Colorado are trending pretty solidly blue, Georgia’s getting close to flipping, Ohio is not the be-all, end-all, Florida’s Cuban community doesn’t vote lockstep Republican, and so on.
It would also be nice if, almost 30 years after the fact, we stopped calling certain folks “Reagan Democrats” and went with “Republicans”.
SenyorDave
The thing that scares me is that Trump could have the week he just had, and still poll pretty much the same in the state polls. He did seem to drop in FL, but he actually seems to have improved in OH. I thought the advantage in the GOTV and organization would be icing on the cake, but it might end up being the thing that saves us.
Punchy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Buckeye football fans certainly think Ohio should be elected the most important college.
fuckwit
Cat question here.
What’s the best way to dispose of cat shit from a litterbox?
Flushing it is a one-way ticket to Visit From The Plumber… that clay litter doesn’t look like it’d be good for pipes.
Dumping it in the trash can smells horrific.
I can’t see just throwing it out into the garden.
What’s the correct method of disposal?
Joel
@Roger Moore: johnsons stolen his grift and he’s not even fucking trying.
Matt McIrvin
@SenyorDave: The state polls changed. Pennsylvania firmed up for Clinton too. Remember, state-poll aggregates have an inherent time lag because some states are infrequently polled.
I’ve noticed that electoral-vote.com tends to lead PEC when the situation changes, because the former uses the most recent poll when there aren’t multiple polls per week, whereas PEC uses the median of the last few polls even if they’re quite old, so their aggregate is probably still including some from before the debate. But PEC’s Meta-Margin and electoral count finally jumped up a bit.
Jeffro
@fuckwit: Scoop it into plastic grocery bags, tie them tightly, and put those into the trash can. Double- or triple-bag ’em if you have to. But that’s the best way to do it.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@fuckwit:
I agree with Jeffro. I use clumping cat litter (Fresh Step Unscented), scoop out the clumps with a slotted shovel, put them in a grocery bag and tie it tight. The bags go in a wastebasket next to the litter box, and every few days I take them to the outside garbage bin.
I’ll defer to WereBear or other cat experts, but I think the choice of litter is important. Highly recommend Fresh Step. No odor problems whatsoever.
peej01
@Jeffro: That’s the way I dispose of it in my house.
Villago Delenda Est
@srv: You’re quoting MoDo? Wow, the desperation is getting very desperate indeed!
Villago Delenda Est
@Joel: The Libertarians have always been very, very internally volatile, and control of the grift is usually at the center of it. Their own party’s internal affairs demonstrate how unworkable their philosophy is in a world filled with greedy assholes looking out only for Number One.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Yes, go back and read in context. A voter who chooses Trump and Feingold makes no sense. And a voter who chooses Gary Johnson and Feingold makes no sense.
NoraLenderbee
@fuckwit: Plastic bags, disposed of in the outdoor trash can.
Er, or what Jeffro said.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: N/P.
Jeffro
@Villago Delenda Est:
Wait…wouldn’t they recognize their common assholishness, and therefore work togeth…er, never mind. It’s dickheads, all the way down…
Jeffro
@Omnes Omnibus:
A challenge!
Unfortunately, the only way to square that particular circle (or rather, to overlap the circles in that Venn diagram) is to partake of some Gary Johnson home-grown…
cthulhu
@JR in WV:
A big building with a long history of controversy, e.g.:
http://www.law360.com/articles/288115/trump-hotel-vegas-condo-buyers-settle-securities-action
http://time.com/4417425/donald-trump-las-vegas-hotel-settlement/
*btw, check Snopes on that one
fuckwit
Thanks on the cat advice. Will look into Fresh Step.
This Johnny Cat stuff doesn’t help, and it makes the outside garbage bin smell *nasty*.
Trish Brown
Posting in an open thread, because I know you all love your pets. How do you know when it’s time to let them go? Have a 13 year old mini schnauzer with diabetes and Cushings. It took 8 months or so to get his diabetes regulated, during which time he went downhill – blindess, muscle weakness, deafness, etc. He was doing okay for an oldster when I took him in for pre-teeth cleaning blood work, but the testing found high blood glucose. That turned into it’s own saga, (done this before with a different pup).
So, here we are a year later. He’s eating OK, can’t find his way around, can’t do the few stairs, (and I’m having hella problems with that do to my complications from chemo). I can’t figure out if he’s just happy to sleep most of the day, be fed, and somewhat carried around. Advice please on what is kindest?
Steeplejack (tablet)
@fuckwit:
There’s even a “multi-cat” version of Fresh Step, for presumably extra odor-fighting power. I have only one cat, and the “regular” works fine. And my place is a small apartment.
Adam L Silverman
@Trish Brown: For me it is always a question of quality of life. Is he in pain? Can he not do anything of the things he has always liked to do? The two last good things you can ever do for your dog or cat (or other animal pets) is to let them go before their lives go from being something wonderful you get to share to something intolerable for them that you can’t let go because it hurts you to do so. And to then, if you’re still willing and able to do so, finding another dog or cat (or other animal pets), and give them the home, love, and life you gave your previous one/ones and pay back all the love and happiness they gave you by making sure another dog or cat (or other animal pet) gets that same chance.
I hope that helps.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Trish Brown:
You may want to repost this question tomorrow in “prime time” and in a thread that’s not tapering off.
I have had end-of-life experience with two cats. My criteria are: Is the pet in pain? Has he or she lost the appetite for food and water? And is the pet incontinent (which could be more than a nuisance, it could be a sign of some systemic deterioration).
Each case is different, and only you can make the ultimate decision. It’s hard. It might be a good idea to get your vet’s opinion.