A President Donald Trump might push for Americans accused of terrorism to be tried in military tribunal at the U.S. Navy base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, the Republican nominee told the Miami Herald on Thursday.
“I would say they could be tried there, that would be fine,” Trump said in a brief interview ahead of his speech to home builders in Miami Beach.
Under current federal law, it’s illegal to try U.S. citizens at military commissions. Changing the law would require an act of Congress.
In the wide-ranging interview focused on key South Florida issues, Trump continued to question climate change caused by humans. He said he plans to soon sit down with Cuban Americans in Miami to hash out a Cuba policy. And for the first time, he said Congress should set aside money to combat the Zika virus.
Asked about Guantánamo in the past, Trump has said he would like to “load it up with bad dudes.” He wouldn’t specify to the Herald whether as president he would again allow terrorism suspects captured abroad to be transferred to the detention center.
“I want to make sure that if we have radical Islamic terrorists, we have a very safe place to keep them,” he said. President Barack Obama, he added, is “allowing people to get out that are terrible people.”
“Would you try to get the military commissions — the trial court there — to try U.S. citizens?” a reporter asked.
“Well, I know that they want to try them in our regular court systems, and I don’t like that at all. I don’t like that at all,” he said. “I would say they could be tried there, that would be fine.”
I honestly think this guy might be dumber than Sarah Palin.
Baud
I’m still undecided.
Steve
I’ve repeatedly said to anyone who’ll listen that Donald Trump is a dumbed down version of Sarah Palin. Glad to hear someone’s finally catching on.
Omnes Omnibus
“good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart” That should take care of that.
Mark B
I’m beginning to think that Donald Trump spends most of the time he isn’t on camera eating paste.
lamh36
Omnes Omnibus
@Mark B: Lead paint chips.
Betty Cracker
Incredibly, Palin may be both more articulate and more qualified to be president than Trump. Of course, so are my chickens! But gottdamn. Thanks, John McCain!
Emma
He’ll sit down with the old farts and ignore the younger generation and drive them deeper into Democratic territory. Really, not such a bad outcome.
Miss Bianca
@Mark B: OK, I almost sprayed the screen on that one…!
@Omnes Omnibus: and that one too, damn it! A waste of a fine g & t, that would have been!
Patricia Kayden
@Steve: “dumbed down version” of Palin. Ouch. Best insult ever.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: actually it was Wharton’s undergraduate extension, which gave out the basic U Penn bachelor of arts. Few ever bring it up, but Trump’s degree and an actual Wharton degree are not the same thing.
Major Major Major Major
I think this is actually not an uncommon position among GOP officeholders.
Feebog
And while they are down there, we should water board them, couldn’t hurt, right?
Major Major Major Major
@Feebog: Oh, at a minimum.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: I am just quoting the shag-crowned, cantaloupe-hued, rump-fed, death-token.
? Martin
Act of Congress? That’s pretty much a repeal of the 6th amendment, guys.
Bill E Pilgrim
Columbus Circle Ken
Complete with Dream House.
PigDog
He’s just the pure distillation of his voters. As (un)informed as they are.
I had to endure 20+ minutes today of one of these voters going on and on about how if Rubio was the nominee he would be 20 points up on HRC because he’s all “the Republican Barack Obama – young, telegenic, articulate.” I wanted to scream.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus:
http://www.thedp.com/article/2015/08/donald-trump-wharton-classmates
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/76a383d1b6e443a99831bf85a6d6cf3e/trump-and-wharton-complicated-relationship
http://fortune.com/2015/08/14/donald-trump-wharton/
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/what_does_donald_trump_mean_when_he_says_i_went_to_wharton.html
Baud
@PigDog:
Except for the whole winning the primary thing.
ArchTeryx
@PigDog: He certainly would have the thirst for victory.
Bill E Pilgrim
@PigDog: I thought even Republicans dispelled with the fiction that he was articulate.
geg6
@Adam L Silverman:
Really!?!?!?! I have never, ever heard that. Fascinating. I may have spent more time at the actual UofPenn than Trump did?!?!?!? Did a fellowship there in adult basic education for a semester in grad school. Didn’t get my degree there but the state paid for the fellowship after a competition that chose ten of us across the state.
Adam L Silverman
@geg6:
http://www.thedp.com/article/2015/08/donald-trump-wharton-classmates
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/76a383d1b6e443a99831bf85a6d6cf3e/trump-and-wharton-complicated-relationship
http://fortune.com/2015/08/14/donald-trump-wharton/
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/what_does_donald_trump_mean_when_he_says_i_went_to_wharton.html
lollipopguild
@PigDog: I am still trying to figure out how Rubio who got his ass handed to him by Trump would somehow be beating Clinton. Little Boots might still be popular in Florida but he has/had no base in the Gop.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: I knew that. : ) But TBH, I think it’s only because someone here brought it up.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: I am aware of his academic history.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman:
@Adam L Silverman:
We get it. You can post naked links. Stop rubbing our face in it.
LAO
@geg6: it’s a four year undergrad degree. Trust me, a more entitled bunch, you will never find.
PsiFighter37
@Adam L Silverman: Not to be seen as defending Trump, but as a graduate of the undergraduate program at Wharton myself – it is arguably more impressive than the MBA program, whose members were often spotted in my upper-level finance courses chilling out and blatantly submitting similar work they had sourced from their cohort-mates.
That said, it is true Trump was only there for 2 years, and I have no doubt (given he hasn’t released his transcripts) that he was not one of the brightest people there.
Bill E Pilgrim
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Gold Spice
different-church-lady
I just came in from reading Achewood, and Achewood makes more sense than that.
PhoenixRising
Um, Cole, an act of Congress wouldn’t do it…there is, like so many things the Cheetos-colored circus peanut threatens, an Amendment for that. I think it’s the 6th.
Anyway we 19th Amendment people are going to beat the stuffings out of that jamoke and send him home to Queens crying. (After which those of us still using our 21st Amendment rights are going to turn our livers over to a higher power.)
dedc79
Reagan -> W -> Palin -> Trump
That’s a frightening trend line of stupid, particularly since it’s not like Reagan was bright.
Baud
USA! USA!
Kay
The GOP is just letting this happen:
It’s getting bad at these things for reporters. Trump’s supporters are getting right in their faces, screaming at them. It seems worse than it was before.
Bill E Pilgrim
Eric U.
OT: Elkhound has a new hiding place from thunder, the linen closet. Not sure why her old hiding places in the shower and under the wood stove are no good now.
She’s only a little afraid of gunfire and hasn’t shown much fear of fireworks. Which is good, because my mom’s house was across from a minor league baseball stadium where they set off fireworks at every home game.
geg6
@LAO:
I’m sure, but my experience at Penn was fantastic. Very inspiring and an experience that changed the trajectory of my career in higher ed. And not at all in the way I thought it would.
Lizzy L
I totally believe that Donald Trump is dumber than Betty’s chickens. He’s also ignorant. Ignorant is not the same as dumb, because ignorant is fixable, But Trump is 70 years old, which means he’s pretty damn set in his ways, and if his ways don’t include curiosity, flexibility of mind, a delight in new information, healthy skepticism, the ability to focus, a love of READING — ah hell, you get the idea. He’s dumb and ignorant.
cokane
It’s just Cleek’s Law at work again.
“Liberals want to close Guantanamo? Let’s DOUBLE it!” Coincidentally, this is what Romney said as well. These people just hate liberalism
PigDog
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Well, considering the competition on the R side, the bar for “articulate” is pretty low.
Maybe it was just code for “Hispanic who doesn’t sound like Cheech or Chong.”
LAO
@PsiFighter37: Ah, so, when I insulted all Wharton undergrads, I was, ah clearly exaggerating…backs away slowly. Sorry. ?
dmsilev
@dedc79: Makes you wonder what the GOP is going to inflict on us in 2020.
Miss Bianca
@Bill E Pilgrim: and yet…bad as this is, this is still more coherent than what Trump barfed up earlier today.
LAO
@geg6: I loved my undergrad experience there, but I was in the school of arts and sciences.
Bill E Pilgrim
@cokane: I don’t know what Cleek’s Law is but this is what I’ve been saying for years about your modern Republican. It’s one-upmanship gone viral. It’s a racheting up as they try to outdo each other on right wing talk shows and the like. You want to tighten immigration laws, well I’m even tougher, I want to… deport them! All of them!
This is why they make so little sense to people outside this world, we’re not the ones they’re trying to impress.
JordanRules
@dedc79: Yikes. Stupidity limbo. Where could they go from here?
? Martin
@PhoenixRising: Yep:
Military tribunal is a fundamental violation of the right to a jury by your peers. But Trump knows this. Regarding his claim that Obama founded ISIS:
Trump knows what he’s doing. He is (for whatever reasons) going for a free media strategy by saying things outrageous enough to get him free press. He’s always been a ratings guy and he’s getting great ratings. Too bad election don’t work that way. But he knows this will blow up in the media. He’s not stupid.
Miss Bianca
@Kay: Is he fucking doing this to MALE journalists? No. This asshole can’t be beaten badly enoough.
Mike J
@dedc79:
Where’s Dan Quayle?
dmsilev
@Bill E Pilgrim: I’ll see your Palin and raise you this:
If an English teacher assigned a student to parse and diagram that “sentence”, that teacher would be guilty of violations of the Geneva Convention.
Kay
@Miss Bianca:
Well, Trump isn’t doing it to male journalists but look at this.
That guy is enraged. He’s out of control. Is Trump too cheap to hire security at these hate-fests?
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Um, what exactly does he think nonviolent drug offenders swept up in the moral panic about crack are going to do, exactly? OMG, they might, like, buy pot or something!!!
Lizzy L
@PhoenixRising: LIKE.
Mnemosyne
@dmsilev:
We already parsed that in one of the threads below. What he’s saying is:
debbie
Someone who could scare even the Donald.
Mnemosyne
@PhoenixRising:
Saw that on Facebook. We need a t-shirt.
Kay
@Miss Bianca:
PigDog
@Kay:
Can we please just gather up all these “patriots” like the one in that Twitter feed, send them all to one state (Escape from New York-style) ,call it Patriotstan and let them build their own wall?
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
Trump thinks he’s losing because of the media. Not because of the things he says, or because he has no policies, or because he’s an asshole. He is a narcissist, which means he’s never to blame, so therefore he’s only losing because the media is against him.
He’s only going to get worse, trust me. Toxic narcissist is toxic.
Mike J
@PigDog:
With an airtight lid.
Bill E Pilgrim
@dmsilev: I know, but let’s face it, “Suck it, Cupcake!” completely out of the blue with no explanation is a pretty strong hand.
dmsilev
@Mnemosyne: Well sure, that’s just about the only thing he says anyway.
burnspbesq
One thing that we can hope for if Clinton is elected is a complete shutdown of the whole damn military commission system, which I consider to be blatantly inconsistent with the Constitution, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the Geneva Conventions, and a whole pile of customary international law.
While I’m dreaming, I’ll also dream that the United States will ratify the Rome Statute and become part of the International Criminal Court, so that when we start capturing senior leaders of ISIS, we can drop them off in The Hague for trial.
Redshift
@PigDog:
Better to laugh. It’s hilarious that they think Rubio would have Obama’s broad appeal because he matches the caricature in their heads of Obama.
Mike E
1st African American woman to medal in swimming:
Simone Manuel, ties for gold
Chip Daniels
Maybe dumber, but definitely a meaner and uglier soul than Palin which is a high bar.
Miss Bianca
@Kay: I saw a teenager today at the grocery store wearing a “Hillary for Prison” t-shirt. Decorated tastefully with bullet holes. So yeah – however bad he may have it in for certain men, it’s a lead pipe cinch that he’s encouraging a particularly vicious brand of misogyny. The asshole cannot be humiliated ENOUGH at the hands of women voters, all bleeding from their whatevers, coming out and crushing him in the voting booth.
lamh36
FUQ Donald Trump for a minute!
SIMONE MANUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
USA GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@GMA 7m7 minutes ago
Simone Manuel is the first African-American woman to win an individual #Olympics #Swimming medal. #USA #Gold
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Bill E Pilgrim: Cleek’s Law.
Amazingly enough, it doesn’t seem to be in the Balloon-Juice Lexicon. Somebody should fix that, post-haste!!1
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: Did you see the brief interview with her after the race?
Mike E
@lamh36: Amaretto sour?
lamh36
@Deadspin
Simone Manuel ties for gold with an Olympic record:
The look on her face when she saw the time…didn’t think anyone could break the story on Phelps…but this one sure did!
Mnemosyne
I just kind of half-promised HFA that I would caravan to canvass in Nevada, though next weekend won’t work for me.
Baud
@lamh36: Yep. It’s nice when it’s unexpected.
Mike E
@Omnes Omnibus: Her reception in the team locker was a nice, humble moment
JordanRules
@Kay: Sometimes I have to stop myself from imagining what the response would look like if these scenarios involved a Democrat and even more so, a “minority” Democrat.
It pisses me off! So sometimes I just tell my brain nope, don’t go there. This dangerous asshole scam candidate is such a fucking glaring example of privilege that I can’t even stand it. And a good chunk of the media covering it is protecting that privilege and refuse to rip the band-aids off. They keep shooting the chickens out of the sky when they are trying to come home to roost.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: It’s what you get to do when you get the keys to the kingdom. Suck it peasant.
scav
@Mike J: Why not use them as actual bricks in the wall? They’re so keen to have it: they can patriotically lie down and the Mexicans can slap some mortar on them. They seemed willing to sit around in their lawn chairs doing essentially the same duty — this would just be a more permanent setup.
dmsilev
@Miss Bianca: Just like Obama’s election brought a lot of blatant racists crawling out from under rocks, I’m quite sure Hillary’s election and Presidency will bring out more misogyny than we imagined possible.
dedc79
@Mike J: Damnit you’re right. Forgot about Dan “Potatoe” Quayle.
lamh36
@Omnes Omnibus: yes. I saw that…you can tell she felt the significance of the moment.
Kay
@Mnemosyne:
I think they’re worse since his polling got bad and there’s all this talk of meltdown.
I also think the Republican Party has a responsibility to hire more security or remove people who get so close and are clearly insanely angry and out of control. It doesn’t matter if Trump’s incapable of acting like a normal human being. Donald Trump is clearly in over his head and can’t manage anything. It’s a GOP event. They should step in.
Timurid
@Omnes Omnibus:
He missed a very important PSA as a kid.
Miss Bianca
@dmsilev: I don’t know about you, but I’ve been able to imagine a hell of a lot of misogyny. Because I’ve already seen it. No amount will surprise me; it will only alternately depress and enrage me.
Ruckus
@Bill E Pilgrim:
From your quote:
The reason they call it bad acid is that it turns your brain into a twin of Palin’s. Even people on acid know that isn’t a good trip.
Mnemosyne
Seriously, guys and gals, I want one of our graphically talented ‘Juicers to design a “19th Amendment Remedies” t-shirt and put it up on Cafe Press for us to buy. What should it look like?
I would also like a “15th Amendment Remedies” t-shirt so the gents can join in, too.
Bill E Pilgrim
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
Oh okay thanks, that’s different. Mine would be something like “An ideal conservative position is one that’s precisely one degree more tough or draconian than the last guy who called in.”
Some truth to both of them I think.
Omnes Omnibus
Biles makes this look too easy.
dmsilev
@Kay: I don’t think the GOP knows what to do. The latest is reports of a meeting between the Trumpkins and the RNC tomorrow:
Hey, “Republican operative who works with the campaign”, do you know why you’re losing every news cycle? Three guesses.
Oh, and just so you know, “losing every news cycle” is the least of your worries. Romney won many, possibly most, of the daily news cycles and still lost the election.
Omnes Omnibus
@Timurid: That is awesome.
James E Powell
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Cleek’s Law – Today’s conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today, updated daily.
BR
@dmsilev:
Doesn’t the article say that Trump won’t attend the meeting? Then it won’t make a difference.
I think the strange posters and charts Trump has been holding up in his rallies are probably an attempt on the part of the staff to keep him on message — basically give him some props where they control the message, so he’s forced to riff off of those.
dmsilev
@Miss Bianca: I have, well ‘faith’ is probably the wrong word for it, but lets just say I believe that no matter how bad we think it’s going to be, the actuality will end up being worse.
Tee
@Kay: #NoTrumpTv if MSM would just publish bare facts, Trump had really at x location and x people attended, they would not be contributing to his campaign. He does not spend on advertising but says something outrageous or phones into a show. They level of hate he has released among his supporters is scary. I had to send a neighbor kid home because he was spouting vile stuff echoing his Dad’s statements. It is getting bad.
Bill E Pilgrim
@James E Powell: Pilgrim’s Law
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
Oh, I totally agree. I just think that the media is going to be Trump’s chosen scapegoat, and it’s going to get VERY ugly because he has no self-control or control of his followers.
Villago Delenda Est
Next up: Donald Drumpf’s thoughts on the “Jewish Question.”
Kay
@Miss Bianca:
This is nice:
You have to follow it along, but read the whole thing. It’s interesting. I felt like Clinton would have really resilient support from some women who maybe aren’t loud but are solid supporters. That’s what she’s describing.
It would be funny if the “silent majority” Trump is always bellowing about were Clinton women :)
Bill E Pilgrim
@Ruckus: It’s funny because “bad acid” always seemed to me that it would mean acid that didn’t work. Possibly because of experiencing that (along with the opposite) in my wayward youth.
Miss Bianca
@dmsilev:
You must be fun at knitting circle. : )
scav
@dmsilev: Meeting might be more about attempting to rehabilitate the reputation and future employment prospects of Team Trump staff by attempting to look somewhat sane and reality tangent, than any expectation of wrestling the misfiring cannon into any form of control.
Kay
@dmsilev:
That’s them worrying about winning, though. I think they should worry about the fact that Donald Trump can’t manage a Florida rally. He’s in over his head. He doesn’t know how to do this.
James E Powell
@dmsilev:
First we have the “intervention” with Reince Preibus, now a “Come to Jesus” meeting?
When will they have the “You have to answer for Santino” meeting?
dmsilev
@BR: No Trump, just a “senior adviser”.
At this point, I really think the RNC’s best option is to employ the Ludovico technique.
Lizzy L
@BR: I don’t think it would make a difference if Trump did attend the meeting. His crowds love and demand what he’s been giving them. When he tones it down, he’s boring, and clearly, also, bored. He likes being outrageous, he loves the press attention, he enjoys the outrage itself. He isn’t going to change.
PhoenixRising
@Mnemosyne:
WANT. Please, design literate Juicers, make it so. Use the imagery and iconographic style of the Clinton campaign. I’ll wait right here.
dmsilev
@Miss Bianca: Always look on the brighter side of life…
Mike J
Miss Bianca
@dmsilev: “life’s a piece of shit/when you look at it”…
Miss Bianca
@PhoenixRising: Susan B. Anthony, Sojourner Truth…who else should be there? (besides HRC)
BR
@Mike J:
I hope he keeps believing that. And it’s wonderful that the RNC is still directing money to his campaign — he’ll bleed them dry and direct all the funds to his “airline” and hotels and such.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca:
When you’re chewing on life’s gristle
Don’t worry, have a whistle.
This’ll
Help things turnout for the best.
dmsilev
@Mike J: According to a story over at dKos, he claimed today that his turnout problems would be solved by all the coal miners coming out and voting for him. As noted by someone in the comments, there are less than 100,000 people who work as coal miners across the entire country.
Nom de Plume
@dedc79:
The GOP continues to steadily devolve. I have this theory that it’s all been a deliberate attempt to make Reagan look better.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Eleanor Motherfucking Roosevelt.
Mike J
@Miss Bianca: Change this sign to say 19th Amendment Remedy.
And hum along to this
dmsilev
@BR: A good parasite knows not to kill its host. Apparently Trump doesn’t understand that.
PhoenixRising
@Miss Bianca: Nah, not her picture…the font and icon styling from the campaign. It’s a design choice that says it without saying it out loud.
Though I would wear the seams out of a ’19th Amendment Remedies’ tee with a line drawing of Eleanor Roosevelt too.
sukabi
@PigDog: your friend needs to lay off the lead… Rubio comes off as a smarmy, not too bright doofus…and he’s lazy to boot.
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
Me, I kind of don’t want anyone’s picture. Just, like, a flag.
ETA: That’s partly so it can easily be made in “19th Amendment” and “15th Amendment” versions.
Now I’m picturing my imaginary future ex-husband modeling a “15th Amendment Remedies” t-shirt.
I’ll be in my bunk.
sukabi
@Nom de Plume: who knew that the guy with Alzheimer’s would be the one with the best grasp on reality…
Anne Laurie
@Miss Bianca:
You forgot that one
cripdisabled guy.Although mocking that man apparently hurts Trump’s polls with non-“base” voters worse than any of his other gaffes, so…
sukabi
@Mike J: bubble over drumpfs head as he’s saying that:
Major Major Major Major
@Anne Laurie: Worse than the dust-up with Judge Curiel?
Is Judge capitalized?
Anne Laurie
Speaking ofGeneral notice: I’m on a different machine than usual, I can’t find the LOG IN button on this page, and typing in the ISP address gets me 403 FORBIDDEN.So I *hope* my pre-scheduled Friday Morning Open Thread shows up… but apart from that, you’ll have to do without me till sometime Friday evening. Sorry!
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: When used as a title, like you just did, it is capitalized.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: thought so, thanks!
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: Yes, when used with the name.
The judge heard the case.
the case was heard by Judge Smith.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Je t’en prie.
Mnemosyne
@sukabi:
Honestly, I think a big enough stink was raised over the DNC stuff that I doubt the Russians will meddle much more. Besides, after his comments about nukes, I doubt they want Trump to have access to those.
lamh36
Here’s Simone Manuel’s Medal Ceremony, Since NBC Didn’t Air It
I guess they’re saving it until more people are asleep? They’re killing me like folks don’t already know the Gynmastics results…smh…come on NBC
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: I’ve successfully avoided knowing the gymnastics results ahead of time.
lamh36
@Omnes Omnibus: you are likely one of the only few who did…
lamh36
@lamh36: FYI, NBC apparently showed it on the streaming feed, not on broadcast even though it was LIVE and Gynmastics was not. Nope they cut away to the taped gymnastics competition and of course the Micheal Phelps countdown clock until his semifinal meet…ugh…NBC.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: It has taken some work.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
It won’t load on my iPad. ? Deadspin must have a popover that’s trying to load.
Though I have to say, I like that us Americans are starting to adopt “couldn’t be arsed” as a phrase. There really isn’t an American idiom that means the same thing.
And good luck tomorrow! Fingers crossed! ☎️?
Mike E
Aly Freakin’ Raisman…”That was the best double turn of my life!”
Mnemosyne
There must be way more Olympics fans among B-J commenters than I realized, because these threads are D-E-D tonight.
Felonius Monk
That’s bigly, right there. Maybe even yuuuge.
sukabi
@Mnemosyne: yeah, but we’re talking about drumpf, reality doesn’t pierce that yuuuge space between his ears.
Mike E
Simone Biles won by 2.1 points… that’s greater than the margins of victory from 1980 thru 2012 combined.
Old Dan and Little Anne
I caught the US-Brazil volleyball game tonight. I’ve enjoyed watching Olympic volleyball since 84. And Simone and Aly kicked ass tonight.
divF
@dedc79: I think that Edward Sorel should update his Political Descent (also remove the Democrats).
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike E: Yeah, unless she got injured, everyone else was is a race for the silver. Speaking of the silver, I wonder if it is particularly gratifying for Raisman because of who got the bronze?
Vor
@lamh36: no, NBC showed the Simone Manuel medal ceremony on network. I just watched it and she cried during the anthem. NBC just did it after Women’s Gymnastics.
Omnes Omnibus
@Vor: lamh36 is right that a historic event – the medal ceremony of the first AA to win an individual swimming gold – was worth a live moment. The gymnastics stuff was already in the can. People would have stayed up until 11:05 to see the end of the gymnastics. One of another crappy moves by NBC.
Mike E
@Omnes Omnibus: Maybe, but that gets left behind when she does the floor routine of her life…Aly’s 4 year comeback is a top highlight of these games IMO
Miss Bianca
@Mnemosyne: Kudos for the “Firefly” reference. : )
@Omnes Omnibus: You’re damn right.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike E: Only because Biles’s win was a foregone conclusion. I really liked what Raisman has done. I’ve watched her on the sidelines. She has been a leader. Did you see her moving Biles to a better camera position after her floor ex? That was the move of a veteran.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Hey, we use Franklin’s middle name, why not hers?
Vor
@Omnes Omnibus: I agree a live moment would have been appropriate, but the fact is they showed on network (albeit delayed) and not just streaming.
rikyrah
@Mike E:
Moments like that are why you watch the Olympics.
I promise you that there was a little Black girl that loves swimming, who was watching and got “the spark”.
hellslittlestangel
Flash-forward to 2020, when a common lament will be that Republican presidential candidate Curt Schilling “makes Donald Trump look like a statesman.”
Omnes Omnibus
@Vor: And the other fact is that issue was raised in real time. The fact that It was shown later does not diminish that fact that it could have been, but was not, shown live. NBC could have done something good without messing with ratings, but they chose not to.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Especially in light of the fact that NBC’s programming bias is supposedly all about the personal drama of U.S. athletes. This should have been a perfect “up close and personal” moment for them. Complete fail.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack (phone): Yep. Full on racist. They don’t know it, but it was.
chopper
“President Trump, Vice President Spicoli is on line two”
Dmbeaster
Military tribunals to try US citizens for sedition during war while in the US, and the local courts are functioning? Already held to be unconstitutional, and during a real war . Ex Parte Milligan. Specifically, the Civil War, and trials of US citizens in Indiana for aiding tne rebellion. Martial law was only proper in actual war zones where courts were not functional.
redshirt
It’s OK everyone, you can come out and post again. The Wicked Witch is gone.
Ian
@dmsilev:
We all know his aversions to periods.
anna
If he’s so rich why ain’t he smart?
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Omnes Omnibus: Simone wasn’t just the first African American woman to win a gold swimming medal, she was the first black woman from any country to win Olympic gold in swimming.
It’s a Big Biden Deal. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
tarragon
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
Thank you,I was wondering that. That “African American” could have and was hiding a lot of assumptions.