Pope warns of "every type of fundamentalism, whether religious or of any kind." Wow. #PopeOnTheHill
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) September 24, 2015
Sometimes I’m easily amused. From the NYTimes, Monday, “Without Calming Voice, G.O.P. Is Letting Divisive Ones Speak on Muslims”:
… In the years since President George W. Bush sought to separate the Islamic extremists behind the Sept. 11 attacks from the millions of practitioners of what he called a religion of peace, many in his party have come to reject the distinction.
It is hardly the only point of disagreement between Republican leaders who are determined to reorient the party to win in a changing country, and activists who are uneasy about what they see as threats to their way of life. But the debate over Islam is particularly worrisome for Republicans because it so vividly highlights the vacuum that has been created by the absence of a unifying leader who can temper the impulses of the rank-and-file.
“The conservative movement needs a pope,” said Matt Lewis, a conservative writer. “Whether it was William F. Buckley writing the Birchers out of the movement or George W. Bush using his voice and office to speak out about Islam, we need people who, like them, will take leadership positions.”…
The counter-argument, which EvenTheNotLiberal Rod Dreher found risible (“Run! Commie Devil Pope!”)…
redshirt
Don’t worry, The Donald will solve all your fears…
ruemara
Not to be that person, but I’d believe more in a supreme deity if he’d regularly, plenty and often apply some smackdown on all these people committing horrible deeds in his/her name.
Achrachno
Has anyone noted that the right is 100% nuts?
redshirt
I’m sorry Redskins fans. I took a chance on you so of course that turned to poison, and thus I ruined your team’s fortunes. SORRY! But not really as you are a horrible, terrible franchise.
The Pale Scot
So I’ve been driving around listening to news all day and and ever time they mention the pope all I can think of is,
Da pope is a coming!
.”
redshirt
@Achrachno: I’ve noted it several times. Doesn’t seem to make much of a difference.
Morzer
So now I know that the College of Cardinals gave us Obama. Those Kenyan Muslims in the Vatican are a sneaky bunch of cats!
Mike in NC
Wingnuts still think Sharia law is just around the corner, and they will be herded into re-education camps.
srv
Trump will probably admit more Syrian refugees than Vatican City will.
Pope enough for me.
Morzer
@Mike in NC:
Sharia Law is Jude’s sister, right?
amk
“same people who gave us obama gave us this pope” … ?
acorn has a Rome branch?
redshirt
@Morzer: Sharia Law will be an awesome protagonist in the story one of you will write.
Omnes Omnibus
@amk: No, silly, Kenyan Muslims.
greennotGreen
@Mike in NC:
In the case of wingnuts, I believe that would be education camps.
redshirt
@redshirt: Something like “Sharia woke up in the back seat of her hovercar, as usual. No rest for a Driver. On cue, the marquis glows and it’s time to go, fares are life, after all.”
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Why does the nobleman glow?
amk
@Omnes Omnibus:
That must be it
benw
You mean a charismatic asshole who can sell the bigotry and racism with a smile and a few homespun words of wisdom while the media scrambles to ignore the horrific things they’re actually saying? Look, you NYT fuckers, you already got Reagan and “W” to prop up your Republican wet dreams. Now you’re stuck with Trump and the rest of the hateful assholes.
greennotGreen
@efgoldman: I got the free upgrade on my Win7 machine and it was a piece of cake. I didn’t have to reload anything. Was Win8 (about which I’ve heard nothing good) the problem?
greennotGreen
@efgoldman: Trainable, maybe?
Villago Delenda Est
Obama was elected by the College of Cardinals? That explains the white smoke over the White House.
redshirt
@efgoldman: You should have asked me first. I would have said “Don’t upgrade a Windows system unless you absolutely have to”.
22over7
@The Pale Scot: Now all I can see is Sammy Davis Jr. in a wig and black robe. Here come da Pope, here come da Pope…
amk
@benw:
yup, the famed southern strategy finally peaking and yielding straight nuts.
Chris
Bush’s calls for respect of the Muslim community never amounted to a whole lot more than platitudes amply denied by the steps his administration actually took. But yeah, no one who spoke like Bush did at the time would ever make it to “Pope” of the Republican Party in this day and age.
amk
has pox news called the pope a muslin yet?
if not, why not? after all, glen beck called the kenyan a racist.
Omnes Omnibus
@22over7: Flip Wilson, maybe?
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus:
In this sci-fi future everyone’s got one on the dash.
redshirt
I’m going to go walk my main path under moonlight only. Post to 9/11 if I don’t report back in an hour.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
You’d let those people have dinner?
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Everyone has a French nobleman on the dash? Sounds dystopian.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
The soup kitchen must not use any microshit products.
redshirt
@efgoldman:
Good point. How did you ever find yourself in 8 anyway?
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus:
It’s science fiction. I challenge anyone else to come up with a better story for Sharia Law, hippy chick and part time tour guide.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Well, since she is a porn star/superhero, you have no idea what you are talking about. And the Marquis is her father, if you must have spoilers.
redshirt
@efgoldman:
You have my sympathies. And compassion. Good luck on your journey.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus:
Yes? And?
redshirt
@efgoldman:
Sharia Law thought once, and then, “WHAAAA?” A year of troubles was to follow.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: I’ve said too much already.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
How do you solve a problem like Sharia?
The Pale Scot
@redshirt: Or the Clash will get back together for a reboot with Huckelbee.
Sharia Don’t like it…… Rock the Casba
Thoughtful Today
!
Elizabeth Warren is a fireball on Colbert.
^ Video.
Omnes Omnibus
@The Pale Scot: May the ghost of Joe Strummer torment your dreams forever.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
No, not the curse of the Strummer bummer slumber cumber!
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: By order of the Prophet,
they doubled up on that boogie sound.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: Aye, that one. Look at the bones!
@redshirt: Doesn’t scan. Try again.
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Just wondering…. Have you had the chance to find those links of me supporting corporate healthcare?
Morzer
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/09/some-notes-toward-comprehensive-plan-screwing-martin-shkreli
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
That was yesterday – he’s only thoughtful today.
Soylent Green
Here’s a charming little story from China:
The Pale Scot
@Omnes Omnibus: Nope, it’s Sammy
If you wait a bit an episode of Laugh-In starts up.
with Davy Jones!
Thoughtful Today
Yes.
You’re a Corporatist Troll, Omnes, and a particularly nasty one.
Morzer
It seems that Snarly Fakerina has decided that fabricating the videos she didn’t see is the way to prove she did too see them:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/09/carly-fiorinas-super-pac-made-its-own-abortion-video
Omnes Omnibus
@The Pale Scot: You are correct. My bad.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Thoughtful Today:
If you can’t produce the links, at least work on mastering the reply function. It involves just clicking one icon.
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Put up the links. Also, it might behoove you to put some thought into what constitutes a troll. Pro-tip: It isn’t simply someone who disagrees with you or asks you to support your points.
trollhattan
@Morzer:
The Grantham collection? Heaven forfend Lady Rose is at all implicated!
redshirt
OK I’m back and prepared to answer questions from the media.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack (phone): The weird thing is I would love have things like universal healthcare and a guaranteed minimum income, but I live in the US of 2015.
Thoughtful Today
Heh,
Monday you’ll be selling me Corporate insurance, Omnes, and Tuesday you’ll be selling me Hillary.
Corporate Trolls like you gotta shill.
;)
Steeplejack (phone)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Like that’s a valid excuse!
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Provide the links. If you want to make accusations against me, you should be able to support them.
craigie
How many divisions has the pope?
Quite a few, to judge by this RW hysteria.
J R in WV
@efgoldman:
@redshirt:
EFG, why on earth didn’t you just install any version of linux on it?
If you’re not using MS Office or MS browser anyway?
I’ve been using Ubuntu ever since I retired from being manager in a windows shop. We didn’t use any MS tools for development, just the OS. We ran oracle DB and various non-MS tools,
But once I wasn’t responsible for a huge set of systems running on MS OSs, I never looked back.
I’m typing on a new Acer aspire running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, just getting used to the new keyboard feel.
Why o why upgrade from one crappy MS OD to another?
Good nite all! sleep well.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack (phone): Eh, the conversation between TT and mclaren last night was rather funny.
Amir Khalid
@Thoughtful Today:
Don’t you have a reply button? I can’t really tell whom you’re replying to. I’m only guessing that it’s Omnes. Who isn’t a troll.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
Point of order: non-fucking evidence is better, this being a Christian family values blog and all.
NotMax
So what’s on the menu?
(At the upcoming state dinner for Chinese President Xi Jinping, that is.)
And pink. Lots and lots and lots of pink.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
They try so hard to beat each other to death with those straw-men.
redshirt
@Amir Khalid:
Omnes is a troll. But so are many posters. What’s more important is the nature of the troll. By this definition I am a troll as well. Lot’s of posters are.
Get your Cleek filters out, sensa-bodies!
Thoughtful Today
I’ll admit, Omnes, it’s entirely possible that you aren’t capable of recognizing the sales job that Richard Mayhew is doing.
But if you’re taking his Goodwill Inc. spiel at face value, that makes my criticisms all the more appropriate.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: FWIW I think the ACA was a good thing. I think that Richard Mayhew does a very good job of describing and suggesting how to navigate our current system. I support moves towards a single payer system or towards anything that is working in Europe. Also, I have not yet picked a candidate to vote for in the D primaries, but I am currently leaning HRC.
NotMax
@22over7
“Here Come da Judge” originated in black vaudeville long before that by Pigmeat Markham (who did appear on one season of Laugh-in).
Morzer
@Thoughtful Today:
How, specifically, has Richard Mayhew misled anyone? Detailed claims with evidence, please.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Omnes Omnibus:
I thought I was caught up, but maybe I missed something. Will check. I feel like between this thread and the last one the collective blog IQ is plummeting.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
I never doubted you, dear comrade.
Thoughtful Today
Omnes:
Then I’m being mad at you for something you’re not guilty of and I apologize:
” I support moves towards a single payer system or towards anything that is working in Europe. “
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Watch me use the reply button. Now go listen to your Dead bootlegs and leave actual thinking people alone.
redshirt
@Thoughtful Today: Your apology is tight but why not your accusation?
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Honestly, you have been calling me a corporate troll and insulting me for a while. You also joined in with a person who once accused me of masturbating to Holocaust porn in attacking me. I have never done anything to you other than offer some opposing viewpoints.
redshirt
Omnes is obviously passed out on drugs so I’ll answer his late night questions for him:
Don’t do drugs
Don’t associate with drug dealers
Don’t think liberal thoughts, practically.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack (phone): Does this help?
Thoughtful Today
The ACA was a BFD.
A solid moral step in the right direction.
Thoughtful Today
lol,
so … now you’re lumping me in with what???
…
now that’s trolling…
redshirt
@Thoughtful Today: Are you asking me?
Morzer
@Thoughtful Today:
Those who involuntarily consume pie all day every day.
“What a friend we have in Cleekus…”
redshirt
@redshirt: TT make a deal or spin the wheel.
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Now you want to have a serious conversation with me? Any time I previously tried to start one, you called me a troll. Hey, you and mclaren had a lovely back and forth about me. Live with it. If you want to admit that you are wrong about calling me a corporatist troll, that is is fine. I accept that.
Thoughtful Today
!
Lumping me in with “Those who involuntarily consume pie all day every day.”
I will not allow this perfidy to stand!
I consumer pie all day every day voluntarily.
Let the record stand corrected.
Thoughtful Today
Yes, Omnes, you’ve come off as a Corporate Troll.
Others mmv. /shrug
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Huh?
eemom
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m so old I remember when you had one simple stalker on these late night threads.
redshirt
@eemom: How old are you, eemom?
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: Weirdly, I have had a number of them. I don’t think I am that charismatic.
RK
The Pope’s gotta be an atheist, agnostic at best.
eemom
@redshirt:
http://www.toyandparty.com/10270-home_default/t-shirt-in-dog-years-i-m-dead.jpg
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: What kind of question is that? Jesus fuck.
Ruckus
@redshirt:
How difficult is it to know a woman’s age?
The rule is – Less than 70 calendar yrs, always 29. If you don’t know it’s 29. ALWAYS 29
redshirt
Oh sorry for asking a question.
eemom go on pretending whatever fiction you were living before I asked a question.
Please?
redshirt
@Ruckus: No doubt, but it’s just petty.
eemom
@redshirt:
??
I suspect you might be fucked in the head, but no matter. I’m 53.
Now go forth and put that information to good use. Pretty please.
NotMax
@redshirt
Signs are clearly posted in multiple languages saying Please Don’t Poke The eemom.
MomSense
@Steeplejack (phone):
This blog kills brain cells.
qwerty42
@Morzer:
The Roman Catholic Church! The Jesuits! They have no need of Kenyan Muslims, they are old pros when it comes to yoooge conspiracies. Of course, they might team up with the Illuminati or the Elders of Zion on really big ones.
Actually, for all the hysteria, the Pope isn’t saying anything JPII or Benedict or pretty much any in the past few hundred years haven’t. They’re just noticing?
Perhaps they need to get their old time religion back:
https://www.chick.com/catalog/tractByKeyword.asp?Subject=Catholicism