Speaking of barnyard animals, here’s a crappy picture of Joan Jett, boss hen of the Cracker Compound: She looks a little the worse for wear for having endured a long, hot summer, but she’s recovering from molting season splendidly.
She takes exactly zero shit from her coop-mates. It shows in her eyes, doesn’t it? I admire that in her.
We’re (the mister and I, not the chicken and myself) about to build a lovely pizza for dinner. What are you up to this evening?
Gimlet
Scottie’s out because he spent too much? And poll numbers indicated he was “surging”. What a shame.
Marco Rubio’s top campaign adviser couldn’t contain his glee at the prospect of discussing the presidential candidate’s Spartan spending habits on the day Scott Walker dropped out of the Republican primary, in part because of profligate spending.
“We’ve run such a lean campaign at times, taken knocks for it. But keeping control of the budget is such an important thing,” said Terry Sullivan, campaign manager for Rubio, the U.S. senator from Florida.
At an event hosted by Google and the National Review at Google’s Washington headquarters near Union Station, Sullivan boasted how every staffer has taken a pay cut to work for Rubio, how they sell bumper stickers and yard signs rather than giving them away, how Rubio flies commercial 95 percent of the time he travels (the other 5 percent is on a private jet) and how he, Sullivan, personally monitors every significant purchase.
“Every expense of over $500 in the entire campaign, I sign a piece of paper on. It is a giant pain in the ass,” he said, clearly pleased.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gimlet: Ever consider the common courtesy of a link?
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Here ya go: Link.
Roger Moore
@Omnes Omnibus:
He has apparently considered and rejected. At least that’s what I remember the last time it was brought up.
ETA: Will this do?
Patricia Kayden
That’s one fierce looking Chick.
@Gimlet: Who is Rubio impressing by running a lean campaign though? I assume Trump supporters love that he’s a billionaire and thus can finance his own campaign. Rubio looks like a poor peon in comparison.
TaMara (BHF)
This photo brought me all kinds of joy today.
I have all kinds of captions in my head.
NotMax
Okay, okay, it falls squarely into tl:dr territory, but Frank Rich’s extended portrait of Trump has some good stuff (analysis, even) in it.
cmorenc
@Betty Cracker:
It would be more interesting if the chicken WAS building a lovely pizza for dinner. As amazing as that would be, it might not be such a great idea to let the chicken choose the toppings.
NotMax
@Patricia Kayden
Gnarly Featherina.
A guy
Bout ten year ago I tied one of our chickens by the neck to s stump and my son whacked it with an ax to cut the head off. It took him four or five swings. We plucked it and boiled it and cut the meat into bite size pieces to put on the skillet. Lots of work. Not all that good really. But in a pinch it’ll do.
Mike in NC
There’s a gaggle of Muscovy ducks that hang out in the pond behind the house, and for some reason they’ve been molting like crazy lately and there are hundreds of feathers in the yard. Never seen that in several years. Will try out my new shop vac this week.
Baud
@TaMara (BHF):
“Don’t tell anyone, but I’m also a Muslim.”
Gimlet
@Patricia Kayden:
Seems to be revisionist fluff as I don’t think money was the main reason for Scottie leaving.
Indirectly it hits Trump for his bankruptcies and blurs the background story on Rubio’s house and boat money adventures.
Conservatives like to hear the country will be financially run like a household budget and have an upcoming government shutdown over the debt ceiling.
gogol's wife
@TaMara (BHF):
“Can you believe that d–che Huckabee?”
Morzer
@NotMax:
How dare you compare a squawking, brainless creature to that noble chicken!
Thoughtful Today
“What are you up to this evening?”
Well… now I’m thinking about having chicken for dinner.
My apologies to the chicken.
Right to Rise
Trump continues to step in it with 60 Minutes interview.
Beginning of the end for The Donald.
With Walker dropping out, Carson putting his foot in his mouth and many of Walker’s supporters in Iowa giving a “second look” at the candidates, could this be Jeb’s big moment?
Remember, Walkers donors are coming into Jeblandia and the big TV buy in NH and IA is juuuuuust ramping up for Jeb.
bluehill
Ironic that Walker touts his fiscal conservative credentials and has to end his campaign because he spent too much. I was hoping that Walker could have kept the scam going a bit longer just to waste some more Koch money.
NotMax
@Baud
“I’m wearing Victoria’s Secret.”
Cervantes
@NotMax:
“And Victoria’s wearing mine.”
Baud
@NotMax:
“You ever fuck a dead pig.”
goblue72
Raging against the dying of the light.
NotMax
@Right to Rise
One-trick pony does trick.
Have a carrot.
the Conster
@TaMara (BHF):
Donald Trump? The hair guy? REALLY???
beltane
It’s cold out. I feel like I’m 20 during the summer and 80 during the winter.
dmsilev
@Right to Rise: This is roughly the eightieth event you’ve pointed to as the beginning of the end of Donald Trump.
I’m tempted to tell you to keep on fucking that chicken, but I’m pretty sure that the chicken has standards.
goblue72
@TaMara (BHF): “A Protestant, a Jew and a Catholic walk into a bar…”
Betty Cracker
@A guy: My chicken would have plucked your dim-witted son’s eyes out and spit the retinas on your Crocs.
Morzer
@TaMara (BHF):
“I bring greetings from our fellow Black Panthers in the Vatican.”
Poopyman
@Baud: I guess Double Super Secret Muslims are allowed to be clean-shaven.
And what’s up with the uncovered Pope-head? Isn’t he supposed to be wearing a beanie or something for formal occasions?
A guy
I doubt that betty
Baud
@Poopyman:
Liberal Pope.
Thoughtful Today
Nice:
Video of Bernie Sanders celebrating Pope Francis on the Senate floor this afternoon.
Bernie praised the Pope for “speaking out with courage and brilliance about some of the most important issues facing our world”.
He cited from Pope Francis’s “Evangelii Gaudium”:
More:
“Money rules.”
Morzer
@TaMara (BHF):
“But you know, Barack, the funniest thing was seeing Boehner standing behind the elephant and trying desperately to put the cork back in.”
Elizabelle
Love the captions, and Tamara’s photo. NBC said this is only second time PBO has greeted a guest on arrival at the tarmac. Did you hear who was the first? (Can look it up if not.)
Trump’s going to be on Colbert’s show tonight. That could be worth staying up for, or DVRing. Didn’t see it, but hear Mr. Colbert “fisked” Ted Cruz last night.
And there’s Chris Hayes saying it’s only second time PBO did the tarmac — SO WHO WAS THE FIRST? Research department, networks?
Last: just tuned in to MSNBC. Did you guys catch Brian Williams’ return? How did he do?
A guy
Which is the moral trump card. Relying on others to feed you or feeding yourself.
NotMax
@Morzer
“Funny, you don’t look Jewish.”
Or,
“How’s it hangin’?”
Elizabelle
@Thoughtful Today: It is so interesting seeing Republican-leaning people trying to separate the Pope from his message, because they see his popularity (and how it’s more fervent than Ratzinger’s was).
Gonna be fun to watch the next few days. I don’t think it’s exactly a headache for Democrats, much as some media is trying the “both sides” shit. It’s what they do.
NotMax
@Elizabelle
Michelle Obama scheduled to be on this coming Monday.
Elizabelle
@A guy: Realizing that we’re a big society and we all feed each other, and feed off each other.
Please don’t be so simplistic.
Gimlet
Politico interview with Iowa Rep. Steve King. Too long to summarize completely.
http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/09/is-pope-francis-creating-political-problems-for-the-republican-party-000251
SK one of the reasons I emphasize the timeless values is that if Pope Francis would come here and address two topics and only two topics, it should be life and it should be marriage, and if he emphasized those two points and went back to the Vatican, he would leave a lasting impact on the entire United States of America and we would talk about those two issues within the parameters of the theology of the Roman Catholic Church, and I agree with both of those positions completely.
DV: Pope Francis has said that he expects other countries, including the United States, to step up and take in refugees and for churches to take in people. Do you agree?
SK: It would be much better if Pope Francis would step up and say there’s a place where the refugees from Syria and Iraq and that part of the world can be instantly assimilated, and that would be the Muslim countries in the Middle East who aren’t taking any refugees other than those who just poured over the border into countries like Jordan, for example, and into Turkey. … And so, I’d say, instead of bringing 10,000 refugees here…we should train them up, package them up, put them in uniform, hand them a weapon and send them back to their country to take their country back. Otherwise, at some point, we’re going to be asking American soldiers to go to do the fighting that young Syrians today are running from.
DV: Should Pope Francis speak about the migrant crisis Thursday?
SK: I think he should bring up the migrant crisis at least with regard to the Christians who have been persecuted so brutally in Syria and in Iraq and have been beheaded in huge numbers by ISIS. … He should speak to that with a depth and knowledge that a Pope can use to address the persecution of Christians by Islamic jihad, and that could be a seminal moment.
mai naem mobile
Hey Betty what happened to the snake?
Elizabelle
@NotMax: I wish Colbert could meet Pope Francis. Maybe in New York? Because he is Catholic faith in action (his testimony to Congress on behalf of immigration reform).
NotMax
@Elizabelle
Unlike RtR’s love god, who converted to Catholicism.
Baud
@Elizabelle:
You ran away the other day when we were talking about you as my Veep. Your genteel smack down of the troll is one reason you would be a strong candidate.
Roger Moore
@Mike in NC:
Strictly speaking, that would be a flock, bunch, paddling, or raft of ducks. Only geese come in gaggles.
germy shoemangler
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/battle-wisconsin
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
Take 2: NY Times: Drug price increase to be rolled back:
The end of the piece says:
Of course he has to keep some of the price increase. Even though interest rates are around zero so the actual cost of the $55M is a tiny fraction of that per year, if he is as brilliant as he plays, he’s obviously using Other People’s Money, right?
Nothing like the reporter making excuses for him. Good job Andrew!
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
Roger Moore
@Baud:
Keep fucking that
chickendead pig.germy shoemangler
@Baud: Baud/Elizabelle 2016. My lawn sign is already up.
PurpleGirl
Of course, Steve King is going to ignore that the refugees include women, children and old people. These are vulnerable people who aren’t able to be soldiers, to send back into Syria. Asshole.
jeffreyw
Blackened tilapia over grilled polenta with crawfish sauce.
Srv
I’m amused that TV ads will somehow turn Jebito into something relevant.
Perhaps the underemployed or retired BJ madmen can script up a few ads for us?
NotMax
@Roger Moore
Only Prime Ministers come in pigs?
(*quickly tiptoes away*)
schrodinger's cat
Fierce chick is fierce.
Gimlet
Better to keep quiet and let them wonder Dr. Carson. (Buzzfeed)
From a speech delivered in 2012: “I find the big bang, really quite fascinating. I mean, here you have all these high-faluting scientists and they’re saying it was this gigantic explosion and everything came into perfect order. Now these are the same scientists that go around touting the second law of thermodynamics, which is entropy, which says that things move toward a state of disorganization.
“So now you’re gonna have this big explosion and everything becomes perfectly organized and when you ask them about it they say, ‘Well we can explain this, based on probability theory because if there’s enough big explosions, over a long period of time, billions and billions of years, one of them will be the perfect explosion,” continued Carson. “So I say what you’re telling me is if I blow a hurricane through a junkyard enough times over billions and billions of years, eventually after one of those hurricanes there will be a 747 fully loaded and ready to fly.”
Carson added that he believed the big bang was “even more ridiculous” because there is order to the universe.
“Well, I mean, it’s even more ridiculous than that ‘cause our solar system, not to mention the universe outside of that, is extraordinarily well organized, to the point where we can predict 70 years away when a comet is coming,” he said. “Now that type of organization to just come out of an explosion? I mean, you want to talk about fairy tales, that is amazing.”
Later, Carson said he personally believed Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution was encouraged by the devil.
“I personally believe that this theory that Darwin came up with was something that was encouraged by the adversary, and it has become what is scientifically, politically correct,” said Carson.
“Amazingly, there are a significant number of scientists who do not believe it but they’re afraid to say anything,” Carson added, saying he would be writing a book, “The Organ of Species,” that shows how the organs of the body refute evolution.
schrodinger's cat
@jeffreyw: I can has recipe? Looks delicious. Want!
Elizabelle
@Gimlet: NYTimes story made a great point about what SuperPACs can and cannot cover. They don’t get favorable rates for ads, they can’t pay staff or office expenses.
Sounds like Scott Walker staffed up for being the front runner or nominee, and did not make it to the primaries.
Carly Fiorina is likely to run into the same issues. Although perhaps (perhaps!) her biggest problem will be once people realize her whole persona is a lie.
the Conster
@Gimlet:
So, he tells his patients that drug resistant bacteria is from the devil, and to go home and sacrifice a goat?
schrodinger's cat
@Betty Cracker: Goddess of the frogs, please wield the ban hammer. There was a comment on one of the earlier threads about running over a dog by the same person.
Srv
“Gogebic Taconite”
I’d name my band that, if I could pronounce it
Morzer
@the Conster:
So “sacrifice” is the latest Republican euphemism?
Baud
@germy shoemangler:
She doesn’t seem interested. Maybe she supports one of the other candidates.
Gimlet
@Elizabelle:
If he didn’t have knowledgeable professionals running his campaign, he was deservedly hoist on his own petard. I think he spent like he expected a another boost of money after the primaries or surreptitiously during the primaries.
jeffreyw
@schrodinger’s cat: I have a sorta recipe over here.
the Conster
@Morzer:
The chickens are all worn out.
Baud
@Gimlet:
Well, as long as he doesn’t believe it.
Morzer
@the Conster:
Isn’t that what the rubber chickens are for?
NotMax
@Srv
Taconite (iron mining tailings) has been a longtime environmental pollution dilemma in northern Minnesota.
Gimlet
@Baud: It’s in a compartment of his brain he just uses on Sunday morning.
schrodinger's cat
@Gimlet: He is really that stupid or is he trolling us?
Baud
@efgoldman:
And don’t you dare take that rubber chicken with you!
Morzer
@schrodinger’s cat:
Mental Ben has a long record of saying amazingly dumb things on just about every subject. I think he’s just trying to get Sarah Palin to nibble his bacon.
Cervantes
@Elizabelle:
Francois Hollande at Andrews last year.
And Bush welcomed Ratzinger at Andrews in 2008.
Hadn’t really thought about it but it’s true: it used to happen more often in the ’40s and ’50s. It has become rare since then.
Morzer
@Baud:
And no, you may not have pigs in a blanket in your room tonight!
Elizabelle
@Baud: Actually, saw that, and am intrigued. (Prob grounds for unsuitability). Although I think BCracker would be a far superior VP candidate. There are others, as well.
Must warn you that I may have attended more colleges than Sarah Palin did, without graduating. (Um, yet.) And if anyone is going to wear Naughty Monkey high heels in the campaign, it shall be you.
More positively, I could pledge to stay on my side of the fence around barnyard animals.
I would promise to treat them, and any overeager potential voter, with respect and a genteel remove.
The political season is young.
Srv
@NotMax: the Canadian part or the American part? Or maybe that’s Wisconsin.
Morzer
@Elizabelle:
Bi-centrist partisanism in action – a new slogan for a new candidate!
Elizabelle
@Cervantes: Hollande. Interesting. I wonder why.
Roger Moore
@schrodinger’s cat:
Yes.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
You’re on the farm team now!
Right to Rise
I an era where crime is rising again, and in which Democrats are waging war on cops and pushing to loose criminals onto the street in the name of “prison reform”, could a tough-on-crime, law-and-order campaign just what Jeb needs?
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@A guy:
You left off the part where you urged your son to fuck the chicken while you watched.
Gimlet
@Right to Rise:
The place to start is with kids that bring “Hoax Bombs” to school!
Baud
@Elizabelle:
Betty does bring chickens to the table.
And you’re once again the front runner.
the Conster
@Right to Rise:
1968 called and wants your question back.
schrodinger's cat
@Elizabelle: Naughty Monkey is too teenagery, Baud needs something more dignified.
Morzer
@Baud:
Is this the new “her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard”?
Right to Rise
Baud
@schrodinger’s cat:
I do not!
Morzer
@schrodinger’s cat:
Well, the Jebbil wears Prada, so that’s right out.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: Like this?
Morzer
@Baud:
Decorous Centrist Simian pumps would play well in the parts of Iowa that take David Brooks seriously.
Srv
From that bloomberg piece that says Trumps summer isn’t over, regardless of the Cracker Units (thx Friedman) prediction:
If Carson doesn’t believe in the Big Bang, how is Jebito going to divide by zero? Perhaps RSA can help with the physics.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
As president, I pledge to ban that. The U.S. does not torture.
($945!!!)
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
So we’ve abandoned the Baud As Good Christian image and are going for Decadent Coastal Enclave Hipster instead?
Baud
@Morzer:
The Republican parts?
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: Let Baud be Baud.
Morzer
@Baud:
The parts that play with themselves.
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: Pretty! Want!
Baud
@Morzer:
Or with their pigs.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
As ambassador-presumptive to Hentai and its associated dominions, I approve this message.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m hoping to remain an empty vessel that voters can project their idiosyncratic views onto.
Morzer
@Baud:
So you are not willing to commit to Hobbit marriage?
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: I figured at least one person around here would like them.
@Baud: Like I said….
Karen S.
@Right to Rise: What’s your source for this?
Morzer
@Karen S.:
David Frum in the Atlantic, because nothing screams credibility like a former Bushwa peddler.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
So you did future Chief Justice Omnes.
Baud
@Morzer:
If they are married, would that interfere with their epic quests?
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Right to Rise:
Coincidentally, I’m in the middle of reading an epic article about why mass incarceration did exactly zero for the crime rate:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/the-black-family-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/403246/#Chapter%204
I realize that you will be confused by actual facts and numbers when you’re focused on soiling your Depends, but other people may actually be able to read and comprehend it.
Srv
In response to Jebito’s airtime onslaught, what would a Baud tv ad look like? I’m thinking starship troopers meet Falwty Towers
NM
@Right to Rise: has somebody already called out that this troll is obviously DougJ! She’s a man, baby!
I mean, come on!
Npm
Cervantes
@Baud:
You appear to be on the cusp between “Chance” and “Chauncey.”
Morzer
@Baud:
Marriage is between a ham and woma… no, I mean a Cam and his ham…..
Oh fuck it. Why shouldn’t everyone have the right to share the prelude to divorce?
beltane
@NM: I think it’s been determined that this is an authentic troll, or maybe Barbara Bush, and not DougJ.
schrodinger's cat
@NM: Actually, DougJ categorically denied that he was RtR in another thread a few days ago.
Omnes Omnibus
@NM: Doug! has explicitly denied being this troll. FWIW.
Baud
@Morzer: Because it would destroy the sacred institution of divorce, of course, of course.
p.a.
Open thread useless thought of the day: in the NCIS universe, there is a very popular implied NCIS tv show. Otherwise whenever they id themselves the usual response would be “What the fuck is that? You’re mmaking that up.”
Useless question of the day: is Seinfeld the only modern tv show where the characters fairly regularly watch tv?
Morzer
@Baud:
Plus, we might run out of divorces if Hobbits are allowed to mooch and loot them.
And where will it end? Let them marry, they’ll want to divorce. Let them divorce and they’ll be fucking pigs and running for election as conservatives.
Baud
@Srv: I’m more of a public access channel kind of guy.
Morzer
@Baud:
Maybe we could run an ad showing the other candidates as pigs and you could be a red-eyed demon-wolf-pig lurking in the background…..
Baud
@Morzer: And then the meteor strikes, naturally.
magurakurin
Hillary Clinton voices opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline and Team Bernster Internet Brigade denounces the announcement as too late, not heart felt, or just an outright lie from a poll watching, windsock witch. Way to go guys.
I’m over Bernie Sanders. And I’m really really over the assholes on the internet who preach about him like the second coming day and night.
I’ll say it real slow for any of them who might be here:
Bernie. Sanders.will.not.be.the.nominee.full stop.
Srv
@Baud: you and Alex jones.
Just to baseline, I maintain that RtR is not Doug. I know who RtR is, but will not reveal that – it would go against BJ tradition.
MazeDancer
@Elizabelle:
Williams was very anchor-y, without being too pushy or full of himself. He may be a truth bender, but he is a pro. And did the job well. Plus, it was the PopeFest. With smiles all around. So, really, no one was going to be the star except the Pope.
Will say Williams did not look as suave and GQ as he did as a network anchor. Maybe the hair and make-up at MSNBC isn’t as well-funded as the network talent. Or the lighting is more forgiving on the big stage. Because he looked much older.
Baud
@Morzer: I’ve always believed that going with sheep instead pigs was a fundamental error on Carly’s part.
Morzer
@Baud:
I think flying cyberpigs would be a nice, dynamic image for you. Imagine yourself as a red-eyed cyber-wolf-pig with wings….
Baud
@Morzer: The cyberpigs idea reminded me of something.
WTF did Obama do to Snowden that Snowden is now talking about communicating with aliens? Did anyone else see that?
Morzer
@Baud:
The encryption thing? It’s been out there for a few days now.
Jim, Foolish LIteralist
Anybody watchign TRMS? Who was that impressive specimen who said the pope wants to grow dreadlocks and join Occupy Wall St? Was that the comedian Gutfield, Fox’s answer to Stewart and Colbert?
scav
Speaking of chickens, let’s add Dr H. E. Schaef’s to the flock. On beyond transgendered: bilateral gynandromorphs.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Obama has a special phone in his time machine.
Baud
@Morzer: Yeah, I saw snippets in the news a few days ago, but didn’t get a chance to read the stories. Not sure what it’s all about — I just caught Snowden and alien communications.
Morzer
I am enjoying Colbert’s annihilation of Ted Cruz. Man, Colbert may look cuddly, but he’s got some teeth when he chooses to use them.
Baud
@Morzer: Is there a link to the video?
ThresherK
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): My favorite part is how Abilene, Ithaca and Carson City are “small urban centers”. Remember that the next time someone on Fox or inside the Beltway calls such places RealMurca.
PIGL
You can keep your gnarly hen. I propose a toast to the real Joan Jett on her 57th birthday.
Keep on rock in’ girl.
( her new songs are pretty good, too)
Morzer
@Baud:
My best guess is he’s trying to get ahead of the new X-files’ series.
Cervantes
@magurakurin:
If you’re evaluating Sanders and trying to judge his candidacy, wouldn’t it be simpler just to evaluate Sanders and judge his candidacy?
That was his response to Clinton’s announcement. His penmanship is great. His spelling is fine. Even his grammar is passable. So if you’re trying to judge him, why even think about how “Team Bernster Internet Brigade” (allegedly) responded?
Morzer
@Baud:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/ted-cruz-finds-few-late-night-laughs-with-colbert/406657/
Scroll down and all the Cruz-crushing you could want is yours.
schrodinger's cat
@Srv: He is your other avatar?
Baud
@Morzer: Thanks!
Morzer
@Cervantes:
I could have lived without the last five words. They come across as gratuitously snarky.
redshirt
@Baud:
Obama was actually born in Ceti Sigma 7, star child of Space Allah T’shek.
Truth is out there.
redshirt
@schrodinger’s cat:
They probably work at the same troll company.
raven
bah
Mike in NC
@Right to Rise: Trump has narrowed the field by forcing out Perry and Walker. Jindal and Christie are next. He has a firm grip on JEBzzz squirrel-sized testicles and will squeeze them when the time comes, while Momma Bush weeps in the background.
Cervantes
@Morzer:
At least you’re criticizing his words rather than some mysterious composite of words allegedly uttered by goodness-knows-who.
Anne Laurie
SRV:
Tell Neil Bush he has my sympathy, but I’m still hoping the Kennebunkport complex is mysteriously RPG’d during the clan’s big Thanksgiving gathering.
Baud
@redshirt:
Obama, son of Teal’C, former First Prime of the false god Apophis.
Debbie
Because this doesn’t seem to be going away, I think Trump will outlast Fiorina:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carly-fiorina-hewlett-packard-iran_560048c5e4b0fde8b0cf291b
magurakurin
@Cervantes:
whatever. I’m not judging him by his supporters, I judge them on their own demerits. I’m over Sanders because he seems to be running against Obama on a lot of levels. Listening to his speech and Clinton’s from the state convention in NH I got the sense that he is pushing the point that things suck really bad and nobody has really done anything to make it better. Clinton, on the other hand, was presenting it as, the Republicans fucked shit up, Obama went a long way to fixing some of it and I will continue that. This is a better message to win the election in my mind.
Clinton is the stronger candidate.
and I don’t blame Sanders for his asshole supporters on the internet. In fact I feel sorry for the guy that those miscreants latched onto his campaign. He doesn’t deserve them and he clearly does not share even a tiny piece of their hatred for Hillary Clinton.
Morzer
@Anne Laurie:
Which RPG? I favor Call of Cthulhu myself and it would fit the setting and the characters.
Betty Cracker
@mai naem mobile: It’s probably living in my unmentionables drawer.
@PIGL: Damn, I had no idea it was the real JJ’s birthday. My sister got to meet her a couple of years ago, and I said, “Did you tell her there’s a chicken named after her?” The answer was no.
Baud
@magurakurin: I need to start paying more attention to the candidates now that things are ramping up. I missed those speeches.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker: Synchronicity?
Botsplainer
So I went to hand deliver an invoice to the home of a needlessly deadbeat client today, it was enough to chap my ass and was eating me. Took my secretary with me to witness any interaction and to have a second voice to verify that I wasn’t threatening.
The place looked abandoned. Knocked on the door, left the past due invoice on the stoop, knocked on the lower window and went to the car to scour my phone for alternative addresses.
Secretary suddenly said “oh, somebody is coming around the corner. AND HE’S CARRYING A GUN!!!”
He’s swinging the thing toward us, I start shouting “there are two of us in this car, and we’re unarmed”. Put both hands on the window and turned my whole body to take whatever. I just kept trying to defuse, he’s screaming at me and waving the gun at me for bringing the bill to his house. I avoid reaching in my pocket for the key. Finally, he backs off a step and starts to turn, I pop the parking brake and roll out the drive.
Cocksucker.
Baud
@Botsplainer: Damn. Stuff they don’t teach you in law school.
srv
@Anne Laurie: You have the IP Address power, you and I both know that RtR does not come from the East Coast.
@schrodinger’s cat:
I missed that movie and am forever grateful. Let me explain something to you people. What RtR does requires work – hard work. You ever try to put lipstick on a pig?
I don’t do work.
Baud
@srv:
Too easy.
Omnes Omnibus
@Botsplainer: @Baud: Fucking family law practice.
Schlemazel
NEW POLL SHOWS ALL CANDIDATES BEAT TRUMP HEAD TO HEAD EXCEPT ONE!
Would right to retch care to guess who that one is? Mr. Unlimited corporate cash!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/public-policy-polling-iowa-september
Morzer
@Schlemazel:
Jeb*mentum.
Botsplainer
@Omnes Omnibus:
Wasn’t even dramatic family law. It was on an administrative revocation of a Michele P Medicaid Waiver for an autistic child. I did a helluvajob – he didn’t assist in the litigation and couldn’t be bothered to attend the hearing. I managed to win anyway, by smart legal pleading when the facts all cut against him.
Anne Laurie
SRV: I may have the power (authority), but I don’t have the ability. And frankly, I don’t care enough to look it up even if I did.
Botsplainer
@Baud:
Best part was that he’s waving the gun at me, finger inside the guard and shouting “look at what you almost made me do.”
magurakurin
@Baud: To me it was somewhat revealing of the fact that Sanders isn’t a Democrat. And I don’t mean to say that in a disparaging way, but his speech to a group of New Hampshire state party delegates wasn’t a party speech. Obviously he didn’t attack the Democrats but he didn’t lay out the legacy of past Democratic leaders like Clinton did. He also didn’t start the speech praising the party leaders who are supporting him (the governor, one senator and one representative) since not a single one is supporting him.
I get that some people find this appealing, but I think most of those people aren’t actually Democrats. Clinton’s speech had more hopefully and optimistic overtones, while Sanders was much darker, the sort of storm clouds on the horizon element. There are a lot of little things he has said that don’t sit right with me as well. His insistence of using the U6 numbers for unemployment while not really mentioning that the U6 numbers have dropped just as much. And his claim about not making Obama’s mistake of saying “I got this,” and not asking for continued support. Come on. Obama never said anything like that. That’s like an internet meme photo.
His insistence on not needing money is also troubling. The rules have changed. Refusing superpac money is almost political suicide in the general. Clinton’s position is better. Yes she is taking advantage of the rule change, but she is calling for changing it if she wins. She may well be a liar(I do not believe that) but the fact remains, you can’t change the rules if you don’t become person with the power to do that. And you need heaps of money now to do that.
Plus, Sanders hasn’t actually been vetted. This was make clear when someone made a chart meme comparing him and Clinton. It is as disingenuous as some pro-Sanders ones have been in the past, but it did reveal that Sanders has said and done some weird shit in his youth. He would get absolutely hammered for some of that in the general Bernie just isn’t all that.
Kay
@Right to Rise:
A LOT of people are incarcerated. A lot. A much bigger group are trapped in the probation/fine/go back to jail cycle, which goes on for years. They can’t get out of it once they’re in it. It’s a racket. It’s destroying peoples lives and it’s ruinously expensive.
Reform is bipartisan:
That was 2011. Single best thing he did.
Baud
@Botsplainer: Shame on you for almost making him do that.
dexwood
I always come in so late. . . re: Joan Jett. Good hen. My hens, the Sisters of Perpetual Poultry, are ruled by Holly, the smallest in the convent, but definitely the Mother Superior. She’s also the friendliest towards humans, enjoys contact.
Morzer
@Anne Laurie:
Even if you did bother to look it up, it might well reveal nothing more than where the troll wants people to think he is. There are all sorts of ways of masking your IP address.
Cervantes
@magurakurin:
You got that sense from the following part of that speech?
Morzer
@efgoldman:
Maybe the sheriff could deliver it by drone. Call it a three strikes policy.
Baud
@magurakurin: Thanks for the detailed rundown. I’ve always been skeptical about having someone who refuses to consider himself part of the party be the nominee, but since he’s generated a lot of interest and enthusiasm, I try to keep an open mind. I’ll need to start watching the candidates myself rather than relying on other people’s perceptions, even trusted Juicers.
magurakurin
@Cervantes:
we’re not going to agree. You think what you think, as do I. Sander’s speech was gloomy to me. I get you don’t think that. So?
Vote for Sanders. I’ll vote Clinton. As long as we both agree to vote for the eventual winner, it’s all good.
Botsplainer
@efgoldman:
I took a hard look at his assets and liabilities after today’s debacle. He’s dead broke – I’d be in about 8th position on the foreclosure in progress, which means it would even be worth the filing fee.
For a sometimes hip hop producer and a guy who occasionally gets delivered minority set aside contracts, his court records are permeated with the stench of red ink and failure.
Morzer
@magurakurin:
Very few politicians run for the nomination (or office in general) on a platform emphasizing that life is just dandy. Either you promise to restore bygone dandiness or you explain that only your opponent is keeping the nation’s inherent dandinessitude from pouring gloriously forth.
Cervantes
@magurakurin:
Haven’t stated any disagreement with you on this score. Am just wondering how you arrived at your stated impression of what Sanders is doing (“[He] seems to be running against Obama on a lot of levels [and] is pushing the point that things suck really bad and nobody has really done anything to make it better.”)
Anyhow, it’s mere curiosity on my part; you shouldn’t feel obliged to explain.
I’m off. Have a great evening.
Kay
@Morzer:
He is too gloomy, though, IMO, for a Presidential candidate, and I agree with him on just about everything. The best parts of his speeches are the college plan because at least that’s forward-looking. It just starts to sound like work when he’s talking about these implacable forces that will have to be overcome by the volunteer army of activists and people really can’t do that full-time- they have families and jobs and things.
Morzer
@Kay:
There is, in all fairness, much to be gloomy about.
Elie
@Betty Cracker:
Amen… AND she would have worked a crossword puzzle at the same time….
Sheesh!
sneezy
@NM:
No, when DougJ trolls, he is genuinely clever and funny. So RtR is obviously not him.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@Morzer:
When you’re hoping to take over from the guy who ran on Hope and Change, gloominess doesn’t look good. It makes voters wonder why your political party should stay in charge if you think everything sucks when your party is running things.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne (tablet): Yes, that is why HRC’s “Christ, we were in a hole and Obama has done a shit load to get us out, but there is still more to do” is a good approach.
seaboogie
@Right to Rise: Bless your heart, RtR.
ET
I don’t know about the beauty standards of hens but Joan Jet is looking good.
WaterGirl
Betty, I just love Joan’s DO NOT FUCK WITH ME look. Same look your front-paged pup had earlier this week. (or last week, can’t recall the timing for sure)
I suspect that you have a do not fuck with me look that you can pull out when necessary. Which leads me to wonder… what about Mr. Cracker and the other pup? Can they do that same look, too, as needed?
Edit: I bet your mom could pull that one out, too. Am I right?