Asked about Trump, clinton says “I’m going to sit down and have some pie”
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) July 4, 2015
Arguably, this should be the universal response to questions about Trump https://t.co/PzKTh1dm38
— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) July 4, 2015
If only Cleek’s filter worked on live journamalists… As Maggie Haberman reported the event for the NYTimes:
Hillary Rodham Clinton made her first visit of the campaign to northern New Hampshire on Saturday, marching in a Fourth of July parade alongside dozens of her supporters and, for the first time since she became a candidate, being met by a handful of persistent protesters.
Mrs. Clinton walked in front of a large sign with her campaign logo at the parade in Gorham, N.H., and a group of supporters chanted her name as they walked along. People along the sidewalks called out “Hillary!” to her on Main Street, urging her to shake their hands.
But there was other chanting as well, from a tall man on the sidelines who carried a sign that read “Benghazi” with red paint stains on it.
“Carpetbagger!” he called out repeatedly, a charge leveled against Mrs. Clinton when she first ran for the Senate in 2000 (and not used much since). He was joined by a half-dozen other protesters who followed her along the route in the working-class area, trying repeatedly to get her attention….
Mrs. Clinton’s aides, in what they said was an effort to allow voters to reach her freely without her being surrounded by a mass of reporters, kept the dozen journalists covering the event behind a length of rope carried by two campaign aides.
When the parade ended, Mrs. Clinton held up her hands in a shrug when asked whether the protesters were jarring.
At another point, she was asked the same question and said, “I’m just having a good time meeting everybody.” …
Tough choice, for a politician (she said sarcastically): Let the press corpse corp swarm you, even if they knock over parade-goers in the process, or get your picture taken talking to potential voters:
Clinton stops to talk to a disabled vet's mom in Gorham pic.twitter.com/1rJE99ku0h
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 4, 2015
Clinton campaign responds to ropeline story: "While the GOP may want to spin a good yarn on this…" pic.twitter.com/QgvJZP40Vs
— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) July 4, 2015
I’m sure the Very Serious People were highly indignant on the Sabbathday Gasbag talk shows, though. Priorities, Mrs. Clinton!
Baud
Contempt for the Village press is a good thing.
I hope all the D candidates focus in nontraditional outlets.
Tommy
Finished mowing the lawn and weeding the raised beds. Got my first tomatoes of the year today and they are beautiful. The 4 kinds of hot peppers, cucumbers, and squash are flowering like crazy.
And got almost two cop of fresh basil. Later today going to make basil butter. I would have never thought of doing this, and it is stupid simple, but via the power of Google a quick search for “how to use extra basil” got me many ideas. Basil butter at the very top.
Now just waiting for the women’s national team to lace them up and hopefully take it to Japan.
rikyrah
uh huh
uh huh
………………………
Texas Town Is Charging Us $79,000 for Emails About Pool Party Abuse Cop
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Andy Cush
Filed to: MCKINNEY 6/29/15 6:02pm
Days after McKinney, Texas, police officer Eric Casebolt was filmed pointing his service weapon at a group of unarmed black teenagers at a pool party this month, Gawker submitted a Public Information Act request to the city of McKinney asking to see Casebolt’s records and any emails about his conduct sent or received by McKinney Police Department employees. Today, we received a letter from the city’s attorneys claiming that fulfilling our request would cost $79,229.09.
The city arrived at that extraordinary figure after estimating that hiring a programmer to execute the grueling and complex task of searching through old emails would cost $28.50 per hour, and that the search for emails about Casebolt would take 2,231 hours of said programmer’s time. That only comes to about $63,000; the bill also includes $14,726 “to cover the actual time a computer resource takes to execute a particular program.” In other words, the operating cost of the computer used to search the emails is nearly 15 grand on its own. Another portion of Gawker’s request, for copies of Casebolt’s personnel file and any internal investigations into his conduct, costs $255.04.
How could finding a few emails possibly be so expensive? Casebolt, who has since resigned from McKinney PD, joined the department in 2005, and Gawker requested copies of all correspondence regarding his conduct dating back to that year. According to the letter, emails maintained by the city before March 1, 2014, “are not in a format that is searchable by City personnel,” and making the emails searchable would require “Programming Personnel to execute an existing program or to create a new program so that requested information may be accessed and copied,” to the tune of the aforementioned $63k. But since when are year-old emails not searchable? Is the city of McKinney still corresponding via telegram?
http://gawker.com/texas-city-is-charging-us-79-000-for-emails-about-pool-1714757746
Tommy
@Baud: Amen to that. But the pics I saw this morning were kind of both very funny and very sad at the same time. It was only a step up from the helicopter mom that walks her toddler with a lease.
Again I have said I don’t dislike Hillary, but nothing close to a huge fan either.
So when I say if she talks to the village press they are going to ask about emails, Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation, and speaking fees I really mean it and trying to be fair to her. Knowing this better than I do why would she talk to them? If I was in her position I sure wouldn’t.
gratuitous
Huh. And I seem to recall just how indignant and upset the major media were when the Bush administration herded all the demonstrators against their causes into First Amendment Zones, cages far away from any public appearance by the Dim Son.
Oh wait, I don’t remember that at all.
But yeah, the media really savaged President Bush for his Prairie Chapel “ranch” as little more than a sound stage with hay bales strewn around, designed to gull the rubes into thinking that Bush was some kind of brush-cuttin’ fiend, working his ranch three weeks out of every month.
Hold on; that may not be quite the way it went down.
But boy oh boy, are they indignant about not getting total access to Hillary Clinton! That’s got them pissed off for sure. I can’t for the life of me figure out what might be la différence . . .
Baud
@Tommy:
When the press complains about not being invited to meetings between the GOP and the Kochs, I’ll care about this.
Tommy
@rikyrah: Wow. Just wow. How dumb do they think we are. More than 2,200 hours. WTF.
Look I am not a fan of Microsoft in any way, but I do use Outlook because I find it a stellar program. Plus it integrates with both Evernote and my to do list program right in the interface. I assume something like Firebird would do the same, but as much as I like to bitch and moan about Microsoft I do really like Outlook.
Now I am super, super anal out a “zero inbox” and filing emails in dozens if not a hundred plus folders.
Outlook, if that is what they are using, search feature is pretty amazing. And if you file in folders, you can search within individual folders.
Gosh I think I might have to put in a bid for this project, but I don’t work for under $30/hour :).
rikyrah
@Tommy:
What kind of tomatoes, Tommy?
You do the garden all by yourself?
shell
So, ‘Benghazai!’ was the best the protesters could come up with? (Not even gonna mention the pathetic ‘carpetbagger’ label.)
Were they hired by Donald Trump?
Yatsuno
@Tommy:
Make lots: this freezes well and is BRILLIANT for making a delicious baked chicken or on a grilled steak. Or, well, anything.
Baud
@shell:
Good enough for the NYT to dedicate a story to them.
Tommy
@rikyrah: Big Boy Tomatos from Bonnie Plants. I’ve kept a little journal of the gardening the last few years and they seem to produce the best. Also large. I like to cut up slabs of a whole tomato, some good olive oil, chopped basil and eat it as a dish by itself for a snack or as an entire side dish with dinner.
Yeah I garden myself. Single and live myself. They lady behind me has talked about us taking down her fence and merging our gardens and expanded it many times, but her dog (puppy really) stops us from doing that.
Tommy
@Yatsuno: I consider myself a huge foodie and better than an average cook. But I am totally self-taught and learn from cookbooks. Although I just put a 46 inch TV in my kitchen so I can stream videos to it instead of watching them on my tablet.
It never ceases to stun me how something as simple as basil butter I am not creative enough to even think of.
Another example would be canning. Did that a few years ago. I heard it was “so hard.” Nope not really. Took a lot of time but it worked so well. Canned all the different hot peppers I grow so I can use them throughout the rest of the year. I use hot peppers in almost everything I eat :).
dmsilev
See, conservatives _do_ recycle after all! Guess we should be thankful that they weren’t mentioning baking cookies (remember that “scandal” from the nineties?)
Doug R
Got a Facebook fiend who’s anti- Hillary who fell all over this one.
I made the mistake of agreeing to a iTunes update complete with restart, for the past HALF HOUR it’s been the gorramed Orange screen
“Getting Windows ready
Don’t turn off your computer”
:/
mai naem mobile
@rikyrah: I’ll put in a bid for $10k, outsource it to an Indian prgorammer for $2k and keep the $7k after copying etc. I’m thinking like a corporation like Texas likes.
Elizabelle
Historic vote in Greece today, against austerity. Yoooooge.
NBC Nightly News: top story is: deck collapse in North Carolina! Be afraid, Americans. You could be on that deck next.
Incidentally: it’s Shark Week on the Discovery Channel.
Sharks in North Carolina must share the spotlight.
Elizabelle
NBC Nightly News: story #2: a small plane landed on the beach. Single engine piper. Probably mostly there because somebody got footage.
Guess today is “danger for people on vacay”.
Story #3: David Sweat is in prison. Rest up peeps.
Did anything happen elsewhere?
“The quiet weekend does not mean the THREAT is over.”
Message to terrorists: “Don’t even try it.”
ISIS is a big problem. Although there is no specific threat.
Elizabelle
Seven minutes in: Greece!!
What does it mean? “Vote will send shockwaves around the globe.
The days ahead may THREATEN the new unity of Europe …. ” cue pic of Greeks dancing.
On a major Greek network (owned by oligarchs): stunned faces …
Markets may drop tomorrow! “The weak were voting in Greece” too. Pensioner voted no. Per younger, English-speaking young woman: “She does not want other people to make decisions for her.”
Tonight, there is no violence … the Greeks do not know what is coming tomorrow. (Are they alone in that?)
But they’re apparently too piddling for ISIS to contend with …
On to Iran. Haven’t heard the word threat yet, but segment not over …
debbie
@Yatsuno:
Any kind of compound butter is great. I was making a lime dressing earlier and I zested the limes for lime butter. Great with any kind of corn and also spread on a toasted English muffin.
SiubhanDuinne
We still have a few minutes, but I hope Randinho or Richard Mayhew (or, actually, any of the front pagers) is planning to put up a Women’s World Cup Finals thread.
USA??! USA??! USA??!
Tommy
@Elizabelle: It is amazing isn’t it. I’ve mentioned here I got rid of cable a number of times and not having a 24/7 news program how my view of the world and stories I learn about have changed. I now watch the PBS Newshour and Democracy Now. Oh and sites like Daily Kos, Talking Points Memo, and of course here. I even stopped watch all the network Sunday morning shows, which for 25 years I watched each and every Sunday.
I used to have MSNBC on in my home office for like 8+ hours a day, using it like radio, not looking at the screen very often. Now when I talk with my parents and we chat about the news and they ask me about this deck collapse, a shark attack, or some other BS that is really just local news (if that) I often say, “I did not hear about that and kind of happy.”
I can’t begin to stress how much my perspective has changed in a VERY good way.
shell
But Ann Coulter is saying that immigrants are more dangerous than sharks.
Poor Ann. She’s having more trouble getting people to pay attention to her.
muddy
@Elizabelle: I’m not sure if I was on the same channel, but I heard them say Iran and they were talking about nukes, but the video they were showing was of petroleum plants. I walked off.
Thor Heyerdahl
@Tommy: I visited the farmer’s market yesterday and bought some basil. Made a nice Caprese salad with it today.
Just finished up slow cooking some “Polynesian Ribs” with pineapple pilaf (I think I got the recipe here).
My day is going much better than Jean-Claude Juncker’s
John Revolta
@dmsilev: I’m still convinced that that “baking cookies” remark was, and is, a big reason why many people hate her so goddamned much.
Elizabelle
@Tommy: I’m with you.
It is Shark Week, but otherwise: (older) movies, Law & Order reruns, and scrupulously avoiding much cable news.
Calm, calm, calm.
shell
@Tommy: I really enjoy preserving and pickling too. Just put up a few jars of blueberry preserves. Takes a little time to cook it down cause I hate using pectin.
*******
And when I’m done with a jar of pickles, like some spicy garlic dills, I add olive oil and mustard to the leftover brine for a really great salad dressing.
Thor Heyerdahl
@shell: The Krazy Klown Kar has left her behind, unable to grift like she used to.
Elizabelle
@muddy: LOL.
I’ll give you guys a Foo Fighters recap later. It was fab. Even despite a long rain delay.
Here’s a story with some links to fan footage.
Had to laugh at the Dave Grohl “throne.” Got a kick at seeing it go back and forth. Wondering idly what would have happened if Spinal Tap every tried a plot twist like that, given their design competence …
Elizabelle
@efgoldman: If all you got is a dead fish ….
You bored with retirement yet?
Tommy
@Elizabelle: I am all in with BBC and CBC shows on Netflix and Hulu when I want to waste a weekend afternoon.
jl
I am not a huge HRC fan either, though I do like her recent speeches and even am able to persuade myself there might be some good in her tone and delivery (firm, dammit!), I don’t see how I can sympathize with any complaints about over control of press access, after the Great Scooby Van Stampede. In support of that, I repose the link I offered yesterday.
Watch The Lapdog Media Chase After Hillary Clinton’s Scooby Van For Table Scraps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxQe9vYrj8
Keith G
@Elizabelle: Sorry, but I can’t round up the energy to give a fig about the Greek vote and its repercussions.
If it sinks the world’s economy, I figure I’ll have time to read about it standing in a bread line. If they find a patch and all concerned live to fight another day,,I get to slag it off until the next crises.
So is NBC put it in it’s closing “Lighter Side” segment (Oh those crazy Greeks) that’s fine with me.
Tommy
@shell: I try a lot of new stuff in the kitchen. But at times like with canning (and at one time Thai food — but no more), people always made it sound like some super tough almost industrial process. It did take an afternoon or so but did 8 jars and to my surprise everything worked out close to perfect.
CaseyL
I spent the weekend in Ocean Shores, and on Saturday we drive north along the coast to Moclips and Tahola, the latter of which is a town on Quinault Nation land. Saw a sweet little 4th of July parade in Tahola, all local pickup trucks done up as floats, with little girls dressed as “Indian Princesses” riding in the back with their “courts.”
It was great to get out of Seattle this weekend and escape the heat… but now I’m back for the 90+ degree days. The older I get, the less I can tolerate the heat… and I was never particularly fond of it to start with!
Davis X. Machina
Jay Rosen at NYU thinks the press should simply withdraw from covering HRC's campaign, because she needs them more than they need her.
A crisis in democracy clearly eclipsing whatever else is going on in where is it, Greece?
Keith G
@jl:
Not to pick on you…I just want to muse on this usage….
How does one become a fan of a politician and is that even wise? My approach to political leaders borrows from instrumentalism; Politicians are instruments of action and their usefulness is determined by their ability to help a community reach certain goals.
In short, they are tools in a tool box.
At present, it appears that HRC will show herself to be the most useful of the lot to me. Maybe that will not be an impression that lasts. I respect many of her past choices, but certainly not all. I am not a fan nor a follower. Our relationship is purely transactional.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Silly Hill’ry, Luke Russet wanted to ask if she felt she had earned her place as Democratic front-runner, or was just lucky enough to be born a Rodham.
shell
@Keith G: Good point.Too much talk about a candidate’s likeablity..that whole ‘who would you rather have beer with?” nonsense.
msdc
…probably because she is, in fact, a resident of the United States of America, the nation she represented as Secretary of State and seeks to lead as president.
But by all means, wingnuts, please proceed.
rikyrah
@Yatsuno:
does the butter concept work well with other herbs, such a rosemary, thyme and oregano?
Tommy
@rikyrah: I wouldn’t see why it wouldn’t.
BTW: You just need the butter, herb, wax paper, and a blender (guess a food processer would work as well — a smaller one).
MomSense
@Tommy:
Two recipes for you.
Take some nice chèvre, put diced tomatoes and garlic on top. Then add chopped fresh basil and olive oil. Serve with crusty bread. Ideally you should combine the garlic and oil and let them sit for a while.
Pizza with pesto, artichoke hearts, thinly sliced tomatoes, mozzarella, a sprinkling of good Parmesan, and fresh basil. You can either make the dough yourself or buy some at the grocery store. Lots of stores now sell quality pizza dough frozen. Trust me that is a great pizza.
Debbie
@Tommy:
You don’t use a blender. Just let the butter soften and stir in the herbs (chopped coarsest), then refrigerate.
Tommy
@MomSense: I like both of those and do some similar to the first. I used to make a ton of pizzas, on the grill, almost all just veggies, cheese, and herbs. Have not tried artichoke hearts. Will have to because I flipping love artichokes.
@Debbie: That is what they said but he seemed to me when I read it, well it might not be necessary.
srv
@rikyrah: I would hazard a million or two has been spent on Hillary’s emails.
Probably 5X that on Lois Lerner.
Capri
@Tommy: I had the same experience with soup. For years I thought it was extremely difficult to make decent soup. When I actually tried it, nothing could be easier.
Patrick
Please keep it up. Literally nobody outside the FoxNews bubble cares about that issue. Besides, the GOP committee in the House completely exonerated Clinton. So, if that’s all they got, they are more than toast in ’16.
MomSense
@Tommy:
Just use the pesto instead of tomato sauce. I put basil leaves on the pizza as well. In the winter I skip the fresh tomatoes because I really am a tomato snob and the winter ones taste like crap. You will be so happy with this pizza.
Pogonip
@Tommy: Are you sure the garden is all she wants to merge? Love, along with the tomatoes, may be waiting to blossom.
Pogonip
@rikyrah: You better believe it! REAL butter + any herb = yum!
Tommy
@Pogonip: LOL. We did date for awhile but at the time she had a daughter with Cystic Fibrosis and getting a lung transplant, she had more important things to do.* She now has a guy living with her.
*That was almost three years ago and the daughter is doing very well. But very careful about what she eats and she grows a lot of stuff like kyle. I have more space for her and honesty I could care less if I turned my entire backyard into a garden.
Pogonip
An era is ending. My son’s TV died. Since they were both bought around the same time, I figure mine won’t last much longer either. These are probably the last 2 picture-tube TVs on this continent so a station break of respectful silence is in order.
Pogonip
@Tommy: Glad to hear the daughter’s doing better.
PaulW
Didn’t the Bush the Lesser people take most of the media and ALL of the protesters and shove them into “First Amendment” zones that were fenced-in cages blocks away from the GOP appearances?
Kay
Well, I don’t like to see people who are working treated disrespectfully no matter what they do but since I don’t know what they would find out following her in a parade anyway I don’t know why they felt they had to go along with it
Can’t they just spread out on the sidelines and hear what she says to voters that way?
Tommy
@Pogonip: Yeah Barnes Hospital in St. Louis is one of the best in the world. I didn’t know anything about Cystic Fibrosis until I started to date her mom and she was in pretty bad shape before her “number” came up on the transplant list, but she is like a “new” human at this point.
Patrick
@PaulW:
It was even worse. In some of his townhall meetings, one apparently had to sign loyalty oaths or one was not invited to the Bush rally. There were articles about people wearing anti-Bush shirts who were thrown out. It reminded me more of the old Soviet Union than the United States.
As with Benghazi, this story about Clinton is just stupid. They must not have much.
Keith G
@Kay: While the “Hawthorne Effect” means something specifically different in the academy, there is something akin to it at occasions such as this.
The presence of a media scrum and/or individual reporters dashing and darting around and through a gathering is disruptive to the “civilian” participants.
Yes I realize there is an imperative to be close enough to record the next jaw-dropping gaff uttered by some unfortunate shmuck. I hope we can find better ways to do this. It seems so intellectually squalid.
Roger Moore
@Tommy:
Canning isn’t difficult, but it is persnickety. When they say you should follow the recipe exactly, they are not joking around. You can easily give yourself botulism if you mess up.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I think I’m gonna follow this election through Dick Nixon’s twitter account, or at least let him monitor Scott Walker for me
Eric Lindholm
The tepid support for Hillary, devolving into recipe exchanges and plain ol’ Bush-bashing makes me so happy.
Hillary 2016 slogan: “Yeah, I guess, why not? Also: uterus.” Inspiring!
schrodinger's cat
Is the MSM trying to Gore Hillary?
Roger Moore
@shell:
Sure, Ann; it’s always the other guy who’s more dangerous than you are.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
But the true enemy is sunlight. Sunlight and garlic.
Kay
@Keith G:
Right. The point is to get the gaffe. Gaffes ARE instructive though. There’s truth to the idea that they reveal something about what or how people think. Not always, but sometimes. We have to keep that in mind when Kasich starts shooting his mouth off, which he will :)
Roger Moore
@Pogonip:
I doubt it. Every time there’s a big sporting event, I see discarded tube TVs by the curb waiting to be picked up as waste. There was quite an impressive collection last summer for the Men’s World Cup.
Kay
@Keith G:
I think I’m a weird voter because I love when they get fed up and just say something. My favorite Clinton quote is “what does it matter?” :)
I was thinking “good for her- this entire Benghazi investigation is complete bullshit and someone finally said it”
opiejeanne
@jl: I can’t get that to play. In fact, I can’t get any of them to play. I probably need to update something on this computer.
schrodinger's cat
Greek kitteh has an answer for the Troika
ETA: Copied from the dead thread about the vote in Greece.
Anne Laurie
@Kay:
Obviously Tha Press did get pictures (as in Haberman’s tweet), and quotes (some of them from actual parade-watchers, plus the diehard with his Benghazi grievance). And then when they finally had the chance to fiercely interrogate her, the big question: How ’bout Donald Trump, huh?
Because that’s what really matters to our broken Media-Masters: the horse race! Hot takes, who’s up who’s trending!! Even better, Candidate A disses Candidate B — film at 9, 10, 11, again with the early-morning farm report…
opiejeanne
@Tommy: You may be able to grow artichokes where you live. We grew them in Anaheim, and we’re growing them at our house (just east of Seattle). We have gotten three from the one plant so we’ve gotten the cost of the plant back, and there are 2 or 3 more buds coming so far. In Anaheim it didn’t get cold enough to kill them in the winter so the plant was a perennial for us, and the second year was much better than the first. This one is going to get dug up and moved into the greenhouse for the winter, along with the hibiscus and a couple of other tender plants. People treat hibiscus as annuals here, which I find strange since they are pretty expensive.
Oh, and I ran across instructions for making mascarpone, and it’s super easy! http://www.thatskinnychickcanbake.com/homemade-mascarpone-sundaysupper/
Keith G
@Kay:
I suppose some are, but which ones?
I know, I know…the ones made by the opposition.
And not all gaffes are gaffes. The infamous GHW Bush run-in with a scanner in 1992 was a misleading report that warped in to urban legend now used by a multimedia of lazy journalists.
Was Kerry’s “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it” a gaffe? It was treated as such.
I think Joe Biden would be a great president. His Gaffometer would explode.
But he’s on our side.
opiejeanne
@Roger Moore: People used to die of botulism all the time in Los Angeles County, because they were canning things made with low-acid vegetables and not using a pressure canner, which is essential for low-acid foods. My husband’s grandma used to take her canner along in the trailer when she and his grandpa drove up to Oregon to visit friends; he fished and she canned, and sometimes she canned fish (shudder!) They were still driving from Carlsbad, Ca to Corvallis, OR when they were in their early 80s. She was the driver. I rode with his grandpa once and I think that was when my hair started turning white.
Matt McIrvin
@Tommy:
I’m pretty sure I was born there.
opiejeanne
@Matt McIrvin: You don’t remember?
FortGeek
@Pogonip: I had to pull my old CRT TV out of storage a few weeks ago because my 4-year-old flat-panel TV died. The CRT one is at least 15 and still working. Not too shabby!
KS in MA
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
LOL!
FortGeek
@Keith G: You’ve given me something new to think about:
Thanks for this. Need to practice my pragmatism where politics are concerned.