Regarding that teahadist clown and his dim bulb of a wife who are blaming Obama because Republicans won’t expand Medicaid to cover his surgery because he refused to sign up for our blackity black Obamacare, and twice missed enrollment, well, if you work fast you can use these websites to learn Braille for free before you literally go blind from stupidity. Braille might be hard for you, though, what with your thumb lodged so firmly up your ass.
I felt bad the first time and thought “no one should have to go through that” and chipped in, but not anymore. I’m already chipping in by paying my god damned taxes and by being enrolled in health insurance. So piss off, and think of all the electricity you’re going to save on lighting. Use that to pay your medical bills.
You can lead a horse to water, but it’s not your fucking fault if they decide to drown themselves in it. All it means is one less stupid fucking horse.
chopper
tee hee!
Mystical Chick
I know, right? Dude, you done fucked yourself. And I don’t care. I just don’t.
(oh, now I sound like Cole, don’t I? I’m supposed to be all love and light and …. just no. He deserves no light from moi.)
Baud
If I were Jesus, I would heal him and everyone else regardless of their political affiliation.
Since I’m not Jesus, all I could do is elect Democrats who gave him an opportunity to help himself and his family. And that’s what I did.
PsiFighter37
Clearly he is not tugging on his own bootstraps hard enough.
It sucks that he will go blind, but he did it to himself. Insurance is meant to be protection against unforeseen consequences, and if he was not smart enough to understand that / was too much of a cheapskate, that is his own fucking fault. Also, the idea that he had done ‘well enough’ so that his wife didn’t have to work, even though it sounds like they burned through their savings of less than $10k, gives me the impression that these folks had a self-inflated sense of just how well they were doing.
cmorenc
@John Cole:
OT, but my favorite riff on this old metaphor is the one Dorothy Parker came up with when challenged to come up with a witty pun on the word “horticulture”. Quipped Ms Parker: “You can lead a horticulture but you can’t make her think”.
Likewise, you can lead a tea party wingnut to accurate information, but you can’t make him think, or change his mind – because it’s all Obama’s fault, and everything he’s done is a boondoggle failure, except for being a secret Muslim.
randal sexton
I wish you could speak more directly, share your feelings more forthrightly on this topic. Your subtle, elliptical phrasing make it hard to understand your point. I think perhaps you are being so careful to not rock the boat on this one, that your meaning is not clear. I think you might be saying one thing, but then I read it again and think your are saying something else.
Call me dense, but really, just tell us what your really mean.
-r
agorabum
The comments on the hometown paper are very much in the am vein…
chopper
@PsiFighter37:
thanks to the ACA, now it’s also meant to be protection from forseen circumstances. such as “i’m a smoker with diabetes, i should probably get some o’ that insurance before I stroke out”.
jl
I think the hilarious sorrow of the Jeb! campaign saga is more amusing.
Davis X. Machina
He’s a warrior in a cause.
People may intellectually understand that there are no revolutions without martyrs, or holy wars without casualties, precisely because they know it will always be someone else.
And then it’s different.
geg6
Fuck this guy. I, too, am all out of fucks to give for these assholes and their self-inflicted wounds. Go broke and suffer, asshole. See how little the wingnut Wurlitzer cares about your blind, diabetes-ridden ass. You bought into their bullshit and now you gotta live in the steaming pile you purchased.
RepubAnon
Yet another example of parasitic Republicanism. They cut their state’s taxes, then demand federal subsidies… and then loudly condemn the “freeloaders” who receive federal safety net funds.
For all their talk about how personal responsibility is so critical in others – we never see to see them leading by example.
raven
Xin Loi motherfucker.
Stooleo
Hillary should offer to pay for his surgery in exchange for a photo op and a public recant for his previous statements.
ninerdave
Why doesn’t he pride himself on selling that $300k house and paying for his bills then?
Also too, if your eyes are going because you smoke and took shitty care of your diabetes, you’re going to be shocked when your kidneys are shot and they start hacking off pieces of your feet in the next year or two.
But I guess that’s all Obama’s fault too.
SatanicPanic
I don’t feel this way, but I sympathize
gocart mozart
WWRPD? I bet he voted for Ron Paul.
http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/05/when-ron-paul-fans-cheered-they-were.html
Germy Shoemangler
@gocart mozart: “welfarism” and he gets applause.
Brendan in Charlotte
@PsiFighter37: You should see the majority of the comments on his GoFundMe page. One of them actually said he was wondering how GoFundMe would handle his donation of bootstraps… I live slightly north of this clown – in slightly less insane North Carolina. Unfortunately, his attitude is prevalent in this blue area of the state.
Shana
I like how he said he thought he could just go to the emergency room and it would be taken care of. Who does he think ends up paying for those uninsured emergency room visits? The Health Care Fairy?
raven
I have a friend who is battling cancer after losing her husband to a heart attack a couple of years back. He was a Nam vet, gunsmith, inventor and mechanic. He and I knew where each other stood politically and we left it alone. She’s pretty goofy on her best day, has a son with Asperger’s and carries a lady smith and wesson. I posted the article about this clown on my Facebook and she chimed in with some bullshit about “let’s talk to someone who has Obama Hussein care”. I simply deleted it but I’ve about had it with her stupid political stance. She’s a sad case and I’m stuck.
chopper
@ninerdave:
well, duh. truth is his feet are fine, they’re just going to hack them off and donate them to some shiftless lazy minority who wasn’t even smart enough to be born with feet. meanwhile, mr. lang lays bleeding to death in a FEMA death camp.
Lit3Bolt
I’m sorry, but if you feel bad for buttfucking criminals in the state pen, you should feel bad for this guy.
Yes, he’s stupid. You know who’s also fucking stupid? Urban single mothers. Drug dealers. Pot smokers. Law college students. Poor children in Appalachia. Anti-vaxers. High school graduates who steal cigars and fight with police.
All of you are willing to squirrel-dive onto your fainting couches whenever your “group” gets into trouble and blame society and the oligarchs and the Illuminati. Because they didn’t have any free will, or any choice, while this used bumblefuck ignorant Know-Nothing from SC is getting his just desserts by going blind and dying slowly from diabetes.
See the disconnect?
This guy needs medical care, otherwise he’s going to be a fucking drain on everybody. If you’re worked up about the plight of African-Americans, I have a fuck-ton of them waiting in the lobby of the ER wondering why they can’t see and why their feet are fucking falling off. I guess if some of them live in SC and didn’t sign up for ACA, you’d shit all over them too.
Fucking triumphalist hypocritical shits.
raven
@Lit3Bolt: Fuck you suck ass.
Gene108
Why can’t this guy get private insurance? You can buy it anytime direct from the carrier.
I mean, I am sure his church will chip in to cover his premiums until he gets back on his feet, since churches should be handling all charity cases.
Hope someone out there can use this as a cautionary tale.
Baud
@Lit3Bolt:
That you’re angry at us makes me happy.
And what Raven said.
RaflW
“He knew the act required him to get coverage, but he chose not to do so.” Clearly he had accepted informed risk. The “complex and flawed” argument is grasping at straws when cheapskate strategy one failed.
I can imagine Lang as a kid: “I don’t wanna walk the dog! No, I won’t do it!” and then blaming his mom for being a meanie when he had to clean dogshit off the living room rug.
I feel sorry for him on some level, because as with most humans he sucked at estimating his risk. But blaming the law for being complex? Hogwash. He’s mad because the provision meant to prevent people from skating along and not paying in until they’re in crisis works as intended.
Davis X. Machina
@ninerdave:
My guess is he doesn’t own it… just keeping it safe and dry for a bank or REIT.
Germy Shoemangler
Carl Sagan was a pot smoker.
SatanicPanic
@Lit3Bolt: I feel bad for this dude. Notice though, the fact that we Democrats actually set up a system to help him, just like we set up systems to help all the other people you mentioned. What would Republicans have done for him? Or any of the other groups you mentioned? Oh yeah, let them die.
Shana
@Davis X. Machina: Or his wife could get a job. The article says his old income meant that she didn’t have to have a job.
Germy Shoemangler
@Shana: With the amount of publicity this is generating, will they be christian pizza maker rich?
1) Don’t sign up for insurance
2) get sick
3) blame Obama
4) Profit?
RaflW
Also, maybe Rand Paul should fly to S.C. and do this guys eye surgery. And bill him at the usual and customary rate, and then sic a collection agency on him after he’s recovered.
That is libertarian health care, isn’t it?
Hal
@raven:
Yes, let’s talk to the many people who have signed up and who’s lives have been transformed. They’re not hard to find.
Reminds me of a friend of my mother’s who use to bombard everyone via email with some wingnut friend of her’s crackpot stories. My two faves were that Obama was removing under god from all the tombstones at Arlington, and the other was that the new healthcare law would turn this country into Canada. Why was that bad? Because it turns out they do not have chemo or radiation treatments in Canada and Canadians have to come here to be treated. We live on the border, and Canadian patients are sent to Buffalo for treatment if they need sooner appointments, but I had to inform her that yes, Canada does have chemo.
EDIT: The one thing about this guys story that makes my sympathy meter run a little low was this line from the wife:
“(My husband) should be at the front of the line, because he doesn’t work and because he has medical issues,” Mary Lang said last week. “We call it the Not Fair Health Care Act.”
I get that the guy needs help, but the massive entitlement expectation here is amazing. Where is Fox News to do a story on entitled white people who expect something for nothing?
cthulhu
The conservative think tanks are always worried about the “moral hazard” of social programs but it seems to be that such behavior is more common among conservatives and especially libertarians.
cokane
i love the quote from these conservatives, his wife, that says he should get to the front of the line, because he doesn’t work
Lit3Bolt
@Baud:
The fact you’re gleeful at another human being’s suffering makes you shit.
Fuck all of you and your worthless ‘tude. But keep banging the ideology circle-drum like it makes you better than any vengeful, petty, sadistic Teabagger.
Omnes Omnibus
@Lit3Bolt: Who is gleeful?
Schlemazel
@Lit3Bolt:
your angry tears are ambrosia, thanks for sharing.
Lit3Bolt
@SatanicPanic:
Most of the people here? Want to let him die. It’s the death-cheering bullshit that most of you should be ashamed.
You WANT people to suffer because of poor personal choices? What the fuck are you, Republicans?
Seriously.
Baud
@Lit3Bolt:
I expressed no glee at this man’s suffering. Only at yours. But like a good wingnut, you make up what you believe and stick to it.
cokane
@Lit3Bolt: go chip in to his gofundme campaign if you feel so damn morally superior
Corner Stone
@Lit3Bolt:
That’s been years ago, and personally I find it a little gauche you’d bring it up now.
Germy Shoemangler
Rick Steves is another pot smoker. Smart, successful guy. And when he travels to other countries I am amazed at the quality of their infrastructure and mass transit. And healthcare systems.
It’s like a different world.
Hal
@Lit3Bolt:
Actually that would be Ron Paul, Gov. Haley, and pretty much every Republican in Congress. People are calling him out on his stupidity, not wishing him dead. Go look at his gofundme page. People think his decision not to get health insurance was idiotic and then gave him their hard earned dollars.
SatanicPanic
@Lit3Bolt: We wouldn’t have been proud of Obamacare when it was passed if we just wanted people to die. People here are expressing frustration at a man who actively opposed our plan to help him and is now angry that we don’t help him.
RaflW
@Shana: Or his wife could get a job. The article says his old income meant that she didn’t have to have a job.
She would need to find a job that paid $7.70/hr full time. I know that job hunting in her situation may be difficult – unemployed for some period of time, husband in duress. But she could do it rather than complain about Obama and demanding that her husband be put at the front of the care line by some magic wand.
I sound like a bleeping Republican when I say the above. But isn’t that pretty much the argument the right makes all the time? You got a problem, fix it your self. In this case, the Obama admin is trying it’s darndest to assist within the confines of the South Carolina legislatures decisions. Jeepers, lady. Get a greeter job at WalMart.
Omnes Omnibus
@Germy Shoemangler: Just off hand, why are you naming pot smokers?
Delia
I picked a great day to wander back to BJ to see how things are going. This story is way better than anything on my FB page.
Germy Shoemangler
And “urban single moms”? Oh, “urban” is how we say “black” now.
Lots of smart urban single moms. Working and raising kids and putting up with all kinds of insults.
fuckwit
@Lit3Bolt: Nice strawman. Poof, let’s blow it over. The douchenozzle in question is someone who 1) insisted on his free will instead of the social guarantees that we liberals put in place to help him, 2) shits all over those social guarantees, 3) doesn’t think you or I should have those guarantees.
So, yeah, fuck him.
Germy Shoemangler
@Omnes Omnibus: lit3bolt said pot smokers are stupid. I came up with two smart ones.
Omnes Omnibus
@Germy Shoemangler: Aha. I figured I had missed something.
Schlemazel
@SatanicPanic:
There is a story many pastors tell about a man who was trapped on his roof because of a flood who prayed to god to save hm. the punchline is the guy ends up drown & asks god why he didn’t save him, “I sent a canoe, a boat and a helicopter, what the hell did you want?”
This is just like that. “Here is help for your healthcare”. “FUCK YOU, YOU COMMIE DICTATOR TYRANT!!” “You have a huge medical bill that will bankrupt you, the sort of thing ACA was designed to prevent” “FUCK YOU YOU COMMIE TYRANT FOR NOT GIVING IT TO ME WHEN I WANT TO SO I DON’T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT UNTIL I WANT TO!!”
Then the asshole wants us to feel sorry for him & dipshits like that one above trys to shame us for not forgiving him for being a fucktard. It was a mistake to fund that first bastard who would gladly piss on anyone else but it was a mistake some made by choice. They won’t make that mistake twice I hope.
cokane
@Baud: also he owns a 300k home, seemingly expensive furniture and his wife doesn’t currently work. i think he can afford to make a few sacrifices to extract himself from this mess. there’s a whole lot of other motherfuckers who don’t have that opportunity. the fact that anyone would feel pity for this guy beyond just his bad health luck is just absurd
SatanicPanic
@Germy Shoemangler:
Yup. And “inner city” is wherever black people live, regardless of proximity to any actual city.
Culture of Truth
Okay, so he’s a self-centered selfish bastard, and pretty stupid too. Whether I do or do not feel sorry for him is irrelevant. But in all seriousness, why doesn’t he just sell his 300K house?
Germy Shoemangler
@Omnes Omnibus: He also said “urban single moms are stupid”
SatanicPanic
@Schlemazel: I admit to feeling kind of sorry for him, but I feel sorry for most stupid and/or crazy people. I’m soft like that.
Ruckus
If he didn’t know or understand the ACA, maybe, just maybe I could give a shit. But he did know, he took the risk and he fucking lost. So I agree, I have no fucks to give. I normally wouldn’t even laugh at him, actual stupidity deserves pity, but this was self inflected. So, hahahahahahahahah……. dumbass.
Culture of Truth
The difference between liberals and teabaggers and racists like @Lit3Bolt is that liberals solved this man’s problem for him by passing Obamacare, while teabaggers and people like @Lit3Bolt cheered ‘let the uninsured die’ in GOP debates.
Schlemazel
No, the people here pushed to put a system in place that would have helped him live & not go broke. HE was the one who refused to accept it and angrily denounced those who fought to give him the opportunity to save himself. HE and the asshole GOP thugs that run his state set the process in motion because HE and they believe they are morally superior to us and that bad things only happen to those other people.
WE would not let him die. We fought (at great cost because it flipped the House, asshole) to protect him and he told us to go fuck ourselves. That we feel no great desire to go beyond the help he was clearly offered & that HE refused with malice is not our failing, it is HIS.
pseudonymous in nc
@agorabum:
As I said in the other thread, he might be a Charlotte suburbanite but he’s not only out of the city limits, he’s out of the state. I’m sure there are some commenters who live on the NC side of the border and think of Fort Mill as the place people go to live off Charlotte while not funding it.
But it’s also a testament to why the “private charity” argument is bullshit, because frankly, I don’t want wingnuts’ healthcare being paid by donations from liberal scolds. Charity’s a capricious fucker, often an ugly fucker, and things like healthcare shouldn’t come with lectures. I want it to be paid by the state through taxes and premiums, because that sorta kinda works.
Baud
@cokane:
Pity is irrelevant. He should have an opportunity to protect himself and his family against these sort of risks, and that’s what we Democrats provided him through the ACA. If he can get through this year, he will have another opportunity to sign up for Obamacare in 2016, as he should have (assuming Roberts doesn’t kill it next month).
cokane
@Ruckus: this. The truth is, he’s actually trying to totally game the system.
cokane
@Baud: He DID have an opportunity. He is just trying to take advantage of the system now that he knows how expensive health costs can get when shit hits the fan.
chopper
@Lit3Bolt:
people here aren’t cheering for his death. maybe yours, but not his.
OTOH, we have a hard time maxing out our sympathy glands for a guy with uncontrolled diabetes blaming Obama for the fact that he’s now sick and going broke because he deliberately eschewed insurance to spite Obama.
Baud
@cokane:
Right. And he’ll have another opportunity next year. Until then, he’s on his own by his own choice.
pseudonymous in nc
The liberal argument here is that over the past, say, hundred years, there have been structures put in place in the developed world to save people from themselves, and they mostly work, and yet there’s a strain of American politics that doesn’t want to save people from themselves, and this guy is a testament to it. And he needs to be fucking saved from himself.
Arm The Homeless
Why do we always end up with the laziest trolls?
Usually I would assume it’s a deep trolling from DougJ, but Dimbolt doesn’t strike me as very funny, which Doug’s trolling always exhibited.
Can we have BIRDZILLA back?
EDIT: Holy Shite! The edit function works on mobile now. Why didn’t anyone tell me!? Thanks, Obama
mai naem mobile
@Gene108: I was talking to my regular insurance lady and she said that even the private cos. have open enrollment.and you.can.buy with preexisting conditions during.other times just like the marketplace.
I feel.sorry for.the.guy but also.thinks.hes an asshole.moron. My guess is.that he hasn’t had.insurance for years.because initially he couldn’t afford.it.and.then couldn’t get it.because of the.diabetes and after that didn’t want to get it.because the moron drives around for work listening to rw radio.and lives.in SC. The sad part.is.that O-care is exactly for people like.him. The wife needs to go out.and get.some low skill state/fed/city job.where.her.benefits start right away. Either that or they move to a blue state and.rent.this.house out to pay for expenses in a blue state. Scary part is that hes.more.likely.to have a full.blown stroke.having had all.the little.ones.
Ruckus
@Lit3Bolt:
I’ve read most of this thread and posted my own response. Your reading comprehension sucks. Do I need to make that any easier to understand? People here are giving him shit because he had the information, he understood the risks, seemingly including his own bad habits, and he said fuck you I’m not playing your game. Not because he couldn’t afford it, but because, reasons. And now he’s finding out what we all knew even before the ACA became law, you need healthcare insurance or some provision such as the VA or Medicare because getting sick costs you far more money or your life. He’s not stupid, he’s a dumbass. No one is saying he should suffer because he’s stupid, we are saying too fucking bad you moron, you knowingly made your bed, this is the cost of that.
Patriots Fan
@Lit3Bolt: Dumbest comment I’ve ever seen on this site. You suck.
Southern Goth
I’m self employed. I’ve bought health insurance for my family before ACA. I buy health insurance for my family after ACA. How much difference can I tell between the two? Not much. Though the premiums did seem to stop increasing as much after 2009. The guarantee of coverage is nice though. If you can be arsed to enroll.
Mandalay
@RaflW:
Yours is by far the most practical and constructive response that I have seen. In terms of getting affordable medical insurance ASAP this seems to be the obvious path for them to take. Then there would be no need for him to sell his house, or beg for help on gofundme.
rk
@Lit3Bolt:
You’re an idiot. No one is gleeful at his suffering. He’s being mocked at for his stupidity.
No. Republicans are happy and cheer when people suffer and like to inflict pain on others. Democrats on the other hand created an entire system to help him. His mean, selfish stupidity caused him to reject that help and his entitled wife is a bigger fool than him. There is a major difference between republican meanness and what’s going on here. If you did nuance you’d get that.
sdhays
@Baud: And if Roberts does, that, too, will be Obama’s fault.
cokane
honestly the more i read about this situation this dude isn’t stupid at all. he’s a total narcissist just trying to take advantage of whatever he can. he knows how insurance works but didn’t bother getting it. he didn’t bother starting a health savings account either. Now he insists on getting on some subsidized plan or getting a handout from the gov’t. He’s not a victim of his stupidity he’s a mountebank.
His GoFundMe page estimates that the surgeries in total cost less than 10% the value of his home. His wife doesn’t work. But the two are tenacious in getting someone else to pay for their shit. If this couple was black or latino they’d be fucking ravaged as takers by conservatives.
22over7
If this is happening to his eyes, it’s also happening to his feet and his kidneys. He won’t be around for long. Diabetes is a bitch. His death will be painful, prolonged, and soon. His choice.
Many people think of themselves as strong and self-reliant, and assume that they will be until they die happily at 95 after a nice dinner and a glass of good wine. It hardly ever works out that way. He’s an idiot. He will pay the price.
The Fat Kate Middleton
@agorabum: As are the comments on the Gofundme page – all liberal Democrats donating – many very kindly telling him what they think. And some not so kind – but hilarious.
Mike in NC
@Lit3Bolt: Fuck off
ninerdave
On another note entirely…this guys plight dovetails nicely into exactly what VidaLoca wrote about on the front page.
1) The Dems and Obama suck at messaging.
The health care law is complex, yes, but the basics of it are simple. While I have no doubt that this dude would never be convinced that any idea from a Dem/Obama was worthwhile…how many people do you know that still don’t understand the health care law. I know plenty.
2) One of the reasons for #1 is the Dems have no unified messaging machine. I’m not talking Fox here. Fox speaks to people who already are true believers. Fox is irrelevant and TV’s quickly becoming irrelevant. When a Dem goes on TV any Dem, they should all spit out the same message on whatever topic is being discussed. Question about the mandate? Explain the mandate in a sentence and why it’s necessary. instead they…
3) Run away from any conflict. The GOP comes up with some bullshit attack on something like Obamacare? The Dems run away or worse yet agree with the GOP on the attack and reinforce the fact that the GOP’s scare tactic is indeed legit. A lot of the reason why the Dems don’t have a unified message is contained in the above.
If the dems had any sense, they’d turn this dude into an object lesson and a chance again to explain Obamacare.
You’re never going to turn the fanatics, but you can make the rest of the people understand what you are about and give them a reason to vote for you instead of sitting on their asses
pseudonymous in nc
@cokane:
Of course they would. But that’s why we’re not conservatives. I want healthcare simultaneously out of politics — you get treated regardless of who you voted for — and completely in politics, in that the priorities and funding of healthcare are issues that we get to debate in public and vote on.
JohnM
Yes!
ruemara
@raven: You can shoot her my email. I’m more than willing to talk pros and cons of ACA to a moron who’s going to have fate kick her in the tuckus. I feel some sympathy for the stupidity of the situation, but I feel zero ZERO empathy because they’re as pigheaded stupid as they were the last time they went smacking themselves in the forehead for pleasure. He earned this.
The Raven on the Hill
The Seattle Times front-paged the following article last Sunday: Banking on faith: Cost-sharing ministries offer Obamacare alternative. We actually have Washington state’s biggest newspaper trying to persuade people to use faith-based insurance. I don’t think you can blame people for trusting their preachers and political leaders, and the local newspaper.
BTW, he might be able spend down to nothing—and I mean nothing, he’d probably have to sell all his property and make himself homeless—then get unexpanded Medicaid.
Major Major Major Major
I don’t understand these people. Putting your own life at risk to make a bullshit political point that will accomplish nothing but making you bankrupt and blind, all out of spite?
I mean I can say some nice things about GWB even though like worst president ever. HIV support in Africa, for instance. His attempt at immigration reform wasn’t super terrible either. And “give everybody $300” is actually pretty good stimulus.
I wouldn’t tear up that check just because I think he’s a war criminal.
patrick II
Some comments from his GoFundme page:
patrick II
In fairness to Lang, Republicans have been telling him for years if you get sick you just have to go to the emergency room. It must have been a big surprise when he found out emergency rooms don’t do laser eye surgery — Obamacare evidently removed the lasers.
opiejeanne
@The Raven on the Hill: The Seattle Times should be ashamed, but I’m told they lean Right Wing, so they’re not.
Once I understood that I stopped being astonished at some of their nonsense.
MeDrewNotYou
@Patriots Fan: And that’s saying something coming from a Pat’s fan.
(I kid! I kid! Despite being a Colts fan, I’ve always kinda liked the Brady-Belichik Patriots. But damn are a lot of your fellow fans insufferable.)
NotMax
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Major Major Major Major
Except that didn’t happen. Far, far from “everybody” was “given” $$.
@Schlemazel
Or the story of the guy who, month in and month out for years, vigorously prayed, “Oh Lord, let me win the lottery.”
Finally after yet another implication, a booming voice comes from on high: “Meet me halfway, Harry. Buy a ticket!
J R in WV
We read about this, and all I can think about is that town hall meeting the Republicans had, where someone asked “What about someone without any insurance, should we just let them die?”
And everyone in the audience all yelled “Yes!!! Let him die!!!”
So if he’s a Republican, I say, go with the Republican Health Care Plan! Die soon, so it doesn’t hurt so much!!!
Fuck this southern lazy begger, and throw mudpies at his lazy never had to work wife too, for begging for help and accusing President Obama, who has risked his life for the past 7 years to bring this lazy asshole health care, of not caring about people.
Too funny, the stupidity of these people. And that’s why we are laughing at them, their stupidity is so stupid it’s as funny as a Three Stooges comedy show.
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: “Tax rebates created by the law were paid to individual U.S. taxpayers during 2008. Most taxpayers below the income limit received a rebate of at least $300 per person…”
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Stimulus_Act_of_2008
MattF
Yeah, the guy’s a fool. But my contempt is reserved for those right-wing politicians who have climbed on the “Repeal Obamacare” bandwagon– repeal the ACA and replace it with– nothing. See the problem?
PurpleGirl
@agorabum: I wonder how many of those comments are from locals or from internet readers in far distant areas.
PurpleGirl
@Shana: Besides the ER will only stabelize you, they won’t because they are set up for continuing maintenance care. He still have to take care of that diabetes himself and stop smoking. They could give him the drugs to break up any clot(s) in his brain butr they won’t give him insulin or a non-insulin drug.
Ruckus
@J R in WV:
He’s mad because he found out what the conservative health plan that he voted for really is. He’s mad because he believed all the lies. He’s mad because he didn’t figure that there would ever be consequences for his inaction in purchasing healthcare.
Basically he’s mad at the world for allowing him to be such an ass, because he’s the one that’s going to have to pay for it.
mclaren
Darwin Award candidate, Cole.
My give-a-fuck-o-meter reads in the milli-fucks in cases like this.
Arclite
This guy is a poster child for single payer. With single payer, this entire problem goes the way of the dodo.
@Mclaren, I came here to post the same thing.
FortGeek
@Lit3Bolt: Bless your heart, little pup. Mommy shouldn’t leave her iPad out where you can touch the internet.
agorabum
@Arclite: he is, but tell him well raise his taxes$500 a year to give everyone Healthcare and hell so no way (or call you a commie). He’s why the ACA was the best we could do (well, and the Supreme Court that took away the Medicaid expansion)
FortGeek
@Lit3Bolt: Growl some more, little pup. Those milk teeth are tooo cute.
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Those who made too little to pay taxes received $0.
Case in point, I was self-employed and struggling, and received zilch.
Again, the payments went to far from “everybody.”
Sherparick
@gocart mozart: He and his wife were probably applauding and cheering when Paul said this in 2011. Now he wants to join the “moocher” class and finds that Obama and the Democrats he despised did not allow him to bail in when “HE NEEDED IT.” A couple of points. Pre-Obama care and he would be even more out luck. Pre-existing conditions such as type II Diabetes made one uninsurable on the private market and South Carolina, which did not expand Medicaid, has essentially the same Medicaid rules as pre-Affordable Care Act. Second, he and spouse appear unclear on the concept of insurance. Hey guys, you get to live out the Ron Paul and Right-wing Republican Plan, or as Alan Grayson summed up the Republican Plan: “Stay healthy and either get rich or be born rich, if not, then die quickly.”
1. You can’t buy car insurance after your car wreck, and you only get benefits for your premiums if your car is wrecked (or you wreck someone else’s).
2. You can’t buy home insurance or flood insurance while your house is burning or when the tide comes in after the next hurricane puts out the fire. You pay a premium for the coverage and hope you never have to file a claim.
3. You can’t buy life insurance after you are dead or come down with a terminal illness. You pay a premium for the coverage and hope you never have to file a claim.
4. So the same with health insurance. To be affordable lots of healthy people (just like with life insurance) have to buy it to cover the chance (which verges on certainty at some point) that your health won’t always be good. To cover people with pre-existing conditions, you need “community rating.”
dianne
An old friend used to send viral fwds to me until she finally got tired of my responses. I just wasn’t getting with the program like everyone else she knew. Some churches are telling their members that votes for Dems are votes for the devil. Get right with the Lord and vote for the Republicans or else burn in hell. Don’t scoff – that’s the message I kept getting from her. When that poor deluded man denied himself medical insurance he thought he was doing the right thing. At least that was the message from his church and his community. It is fitting that the progressives are the ones helping to fund his medical care and he will gratefully take every dime we can spare but will have no
qualms about voting for the party that screwed him so relentlessly.
aimai
@Sherparick: They were already in the moocher class. They had been going to a doctor for years who had been giving him for 80 dollars drugs that really cost more like 600 plus. They had been relying on charity but calling it self reliance for years. When the doctor, post the ACA, told them he couldn’t keep giving them the subsidized charity medicine because people were supposed to be able to pay for what they needed because they had bought insurance he and his wife became resentful and blamed Obamacare.
SFAW
@22over7:
Not sure how that can happen (temporally speaking). Otherwise, you’re right. [Just picking nits.]
@patrick II:
For good reason – the black helicopters (not to be confused with blackity-black blak blaack Mooslim helicopters) need them for keeping the serfs (a/k/a Real ‘Muricans) under control in the FEMA death camps.
SFAW
@dianne:
I understand your overall point, but it’s not clear that he thought that. It’s at least an even bet that he was trying to game the system, because screw Obama and those Lie-berals. And if he (and the little woman) thought they were doing the right thing, (as opposed to trying to avoid the consequences of their willful law-breaking) there would probably have been some semblance of contrition. But instead, she demanded special treatment and threw in a big “fuck you” along with her whine.
[Note: “little woman” was used because I – perhaps mistakenly – assume that persons of his mind set think that way.]
Trinity
Yes John Cole. Just yes.
I came for the pet pics but I stay for the rants.
boatboy_srq
@SatanicPanic: As has been mentioned at the other thread on this, and as aimai points out, had Lang been a recent convert to the Teahad it would be easier to sympathize. This guy lives in an SC ‘burb of Charlotte so his SC taxes would be lower than NC’s and less of those taxes would go to Those People; he made his (apparently quite comfortable) living maintaining properties the banks and Fannie/Freddie took from folks snookered into bad home loans; he had a longstanding medical condition that he got treated on the cheap because his MDs knew he self-insured; he saved about enough to cover the first 90 minutes of ER/ICU care and thought that was enough; and he deliberately did not enroll in the KenyanIslamoFascoSoshulist Obummercare because TABMITWH; when his MDs pushed him to get insurance by not giving him the pauper’s discount he simply stopped going to the doctor; and likely he voted for Haley and the rest who fought ACA and Medicaid expansion tooth and nail. Now his condition has drastically worsened, his savings are depleted, his MDs aren’t willing to charge him charity-case fees because he’s eligible for health insurance despite preexisting conditions, and his qualifying event has taken him from being able to get decent-or-better private insurance for cheap direct to being too poor to qualify for the federal programmes and blocked from Medicaid by Haley & Co – and it’s all BHO’s fault, because what planning Lang did was to avoid Soshulism and not prepare for the moment when he’d need significant medical care. And naturally he expects to jump on the ACA bandwagon and get all the “Free Stuff” Those Other People get from Big Gummint because of his Special Snowflakiness. It’s easy to feel bad for people who’ve been sold a bill’o’goods by the Reichwing, but Lang has all the markers of a True Believer which makes it a lot tougher.
Booger
@Lit3Bolt: No, actually those things are not the same. There is stupid, and then there is actively working to make things worse and being surprised when you succeed. This is someone who by all apparent indications is not a stupid person. He is successful by many measures. But he deliberately chose, again and again, to tempt fate. Fate finally gave in.
Fuck him.
boatboy_srq
@Mandalay: A lot of us are probably thinking along the same lines, but Ms. Lang’s “we should be at the front of the line” without even the glimmer that maybe she should STFU, get a job and play the good spouse in this time of trouble is just a little too close to the “front of the bus” attitude of 60-odd years ago for us to mention it. It’s pretty clear she has no intention of getting off her a## so long as there’s Free Gummint Money out there somewhere for hubby to collect.
Bobby Thomson
@SatanicPanic: people are expressing more than frustration. A lot of people are dancing on his grave. Be honest.
The guy’s an idiot and his wounds are self -inflicted, but I take no pleasure in that. Nor do I see the point in gloating. It’s just a sad story.
Bobby Thomson
@MattF: this.
SFAW
@Bobby Thomson:
True. But I think people here would be more compassionate, had he and his wife shown the eensiest bit of self-awareness or humility. It would take some effort for him to do so, but it’s far from insurmountable. And, given the relatively gentle way a number (not all, of course) of the GoFund contributors and commenters are responding, the roadmap is there – assuming he and his wife are not responding in turn with a big Fuck You.
Bennett
He said he has not taken care of his onset diabetes. Why not? Because he had no doctors helping Why? Because he did not want to pay for office visits & meds out of pocket. So now he has his “pride.” What sense does it even make to say you are proud of paying all med costs w/o insurance? Does he think that when you have your insurance company pay your claim that you are ripping off someone else’s money? If that’s what he thinks, it’s a wonder he knows how to put his pants on.
In reply to a question about a man without insurance dying of cancer without care, Ron Paul said, “Isn’t that what freedom’s all about?”
samiam
“I felt bad….and chipped in.”
Wr0ng way Cole is such a sucker.
First of all the guys has a 300k house for equity he can use. Second, his wife is able to work as far as I know. Third, some people are now speculating that this might just be a big joke or at least a grift, what with the cigarettes in his pocket etc. You would think he would have put those away for that video and also maybe kept quiet about the house. Seems a bit obvious maybe.
Is there no grift Cole will not fall for? We already know Griftwald has his hooks deeply into him and just the other day Cole was on here yet again defending the fat bastard Khristie. Even Rand Paul pandering the left with his “drones are bad” speech was able to pull Coles strings.
patrick II
@Bobby Thomson:
I am with you 99%. The 1% is that hopefully some other wingnut noticing this might learn something. Unlikely I know.
Gavin
The title of the article gives the game away.
“who SHOULD save the sight..”
Nobody should do anything. He can experience Freedom! After all, he votes Republican!
Gavin
@Lit3Bolt:
I do feel bad for him.
But that does not mean I will give money to him. He and his state stated publically and via their votes that for South Carolina, begging at churches and those churches each determining for themselves whether he should receive – or not – the cost for that care… was their best choice.
This is what Republicans want – they stated it. Now they get to live in it, and they get to deal with their choices. This individual person’s lack of planning IS NOT MY PROBLEM.
singfoom
@Lit3Bolt: Obvious troll is obvious. Nobody wants this guy to die. You can simultaneously look at this man, deplore his choices and the stupid reasons for his choices, point and laugh and also want him to get the healthcare he needs.
The funny part is how he could have signed up for Obamacare at the appropriate time and this wouldn’t be happening to him.
The funny/sad part is how people like him (politically speaking) are so against socialized healthcare, yet his situation is exactly WHY that would be good for all of us in terms of healthcare delivery.
If you can’t hold all those thoughts in your head, and you think that laughing at this guys choices = “I want that guy to go blind / and / or die”, well that’s on you.
MCA1
@cokane: Someone definitely needs to report on the countertops.
Seriously, though, I would guess his actual equity in said home is probably no more than $15k. And I’d bet dollars to donuts he’s a big fan of his HARP loan and does not consider that to be big government.
@Lit3Bolt: what the fuck is a “law college?” We call them “law schools” here in the United States. Also curious about the reasoning that leads you to conclude that students of said institutions are categorically stupid, given that generally speaking being accepted into a law school is evidence of precisely the opposite.
john fremont
@MattF: Exactly. This guy’s situation was what it was like in most of the state’s before Obamacare. If you didn’t have a full time job with benefits and had preexisting conditions, you couldn’t get major medical insurance and would end up like this guy.
chrome agnomen
one thing i would like to see happen is this guy being made to listen to all the comments being made by liberal donors. have someone read those to him as a condition for accepting the money. otherwise he’ll just take the money and ignore all the admonitions sent his way, and then condemn obummercare anew.
boatboy_srq
@singfoom: People like the Langs are against socialized medicine when it servers people other than themselves. Strangely, though, when they themselves need care, socialized medicine is what they not only support but expect. That’s what’s driving the Lang’s “Not Fair Health Care” whinge: the Great Soshulist Welfare State they’re in constant pantysoiling fear of any other day of the year is today the very thing they demand jump into the mess they created and save them from themselves.
Gex
I just about posted something similar. I pay for my own insurance to take care of my needs. I pay my taxes and support systems that provide for those who can’t provide for themselves. I can’t open up my wallet and support people who won’t support themselves AND won’t support systems that make sure that everyone gets support when they need it.
The system doesn’t work if people refuse to pay into it via premiums or taxes but demand that they get to draw from it whenever they happen to need it. Maybe if they weren’t hissing and spitting, I’d be more likely to reach out to help.
Older
I supplement my retirement plans (ie, fill in for the part that was lost in a previous disaster) by working as a process server. About 90% of the papers I carry out go to people who probably used to think that Emergency Room service was free. Or at any rate that they didn’t need to pay the bill.
Gretchen
@cokane:
He wouldn’t even have to sell the house. He could get a home equity loan tomorrow if he were interested in paying for his surgeries himself.
Lit3Bolt
@pseudonymous in nc:
This was the point I was trying to make. I apologize for insulting everyone here, most of which I know do good work. I’m sorry.
The disconnect here I see is you give this dbag and probable grifter full agency, while protesting against the actions or reactions of black guys who decide to fight/get rowdy with police. There’s an assumption that he’s fully informed, and fully aware of the risks entailed, and also he has to assume the sins of his local government as well, because he presumably he voted for them with full awareness of the risk that he might suffer because it.
Every other stupid person in the world? Gets a pass. This guy? Full internet shame-a-thon because he’s demonstrably an idiot.
But there’s millions of him. Millions. And it’s easier to hate, dismiss, destroy, wash your hands in public and declare your conscience clean.
Except for the people, who regardless of ideology, have to care for idiots like this.
I’m sorry, but snarking at and wishing away the stupid doesn’t make it any less of a reality.
If liberals (or progressives, who can keep up) really want to invoke the “smart-economic” or the “REALLY-TRUE-HONEST” Christ like example, why not with this douche-canoe? “Oh noes, he might profit off our monies!?!” You know what? So can the people who get all the legal funds for Tamir Rice or Freddie Gray, or some random guy in Nepal. No hesitation there.
Or maybe the line between Democrats and Republicans is thinner than I thought. Good to know.