I lost interest in him over the years — too Tory, too misogynist, and not quite smart enough — but it’s probably the end of an era in blogging.
I’ll never forget this special moment.
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I lost interest in him over the years — too Tory, too misogynist, and not quite smart enough — but it’s probably the end of an era in blogging.
I’ll never forget this special moment.
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lamh36
Was just reading this on Twitter.
Guess we won’t have Sully to kick around anymore
Betty Cracker
Wow. He finally managed to surprise me.
dedc79
And then he quit.
Villago Delenda Est
Anyone who’s a fan of the vile harridan Thatcher deserves every last turd thrown at him.
Villago Delenda Est
@dedc79: Oh, cripes. All the fucking Wall Street marketdroid crap.
Pogonip
Do any front-pagers know when the next Pupdate will occur?
Pogonips never give up!
Lee
That is the perfect comment to sum up his writing.
piratedan
@dedc79: well it does show that being relentlessly wrong about a myriad number of subjects and writing about them on a regular basis does indeed have impact on your health. If only the same was true for the myriad henchpeoples of the 1% who are posing as legislators in our various governmental entities.
dedc79
@Villago Delenda Est: His “farewell” is actually a good reminder (however unintentional) of much of what makes him so infuriating to read.
Calouste
@dedc79: I’d say that the number of renewals came in rather under expectations.
lamh36
Sullivan out, Ted Cruz commending FLOTUS…seriously are there cats and dogs falling from the sky?
schrodinger's cat
So do the subscribers get their money back?
grandpa john
He must have finally gotten control of his ego . The story about the size of the hole left in a bucket of water when the fist is removed pretty well defines his rank in the importance overall in the grand scheme of history. Since I personally despised his arrogance and unbound sureness of his correctness even when his ignorance was displayed , I never made a habit of reading him.
Fair Economist
Like most people here, I run hot and cold on Sully. But him giving up is a bad sign for the future of blogging. In particular, he’s basically saying it’s the stress of blogging that’s making him quit.
10 years ago it seemed like blogging was going to take over the media, which I though was a good thing. It’s a good medium for learning, what with the effective requirement for support, links, and fast corrections. But it seems to be shrinking fast, and its sorta-replacement Twitter is far too brief to say anything substantive.
Cluttered Mind
@schrodinger’s cat: You’re asking if a bunch of people who gave money to a conservative for promises of services rendered later are going to get their money back? When has that ever happened?
schrodinger's cat
@Cluttered Mind: Someone mentioned here in the comments, that he either raised a million $$ or was trying to raise a million $$. Now he is pulling a Palin, very suspicious.
dedc79
@Calouste: Yeah, I don’t think he had a sustainable business model and it was only a matter of time before the whole thing fell apart. So this may have just been a face-saving measure.
His commentary was always the worst part about his site – I mostly went over there (less and less over time) because he did a decent job of collecting interesting news/cultural items of the day all in one place. I never understood why anyone would pay for that service, when they could just click over to the original content for free.
In many ways, he represents all the things I despise about conservatism. He loves that orwell quote (to see what is in front of one’s nose is a constant struggle), but it often struck me that this was ALL he was capable of doing.
Cluttered Mind
While I’m sure Mr. Sullivan’s life is quite stressful, I’d like to extend an invitation to him to experience life on the lower rungs of the society that his preferred policies have built. I imagine after a little while of living paycheck to paycheck as a Walmart greeter while going deeper into debt every month to payday lenders and struggling to keep the utilities turned on in a shitty apartment while still paying for food, he’ll long for the days when his biggest worries were that people said mean things about him on the internet.
In short, don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Sully.
schrodinger's cat
BTW I found Balloon Juice because of the Dish. He used to link to JC as the last sane Republican blogger.
Cluttered Mind
@schrodinger’s cat: The last sane Republican blogger is a Democrat. Pity Sully was never able to follow that line of thought to its natural conclusion.
Seanly
@lamh36:
Ugh, why did I follow that link? The first couple of comments were standard idiot racist comments.
Kudos for FLOTUS not wearing a veil. I thought those were required of all women in Saudi Arabia.
trollhattan
@schrodinger’s cat:
Perhaps “Classic Sully” columns for the duration of their subscriptions. Beagles and bell curve.
JPL
@Seanly: haha.. I was going to say the same thing.
trollhattan
@Cluttered Mind:
Oh, no, you just don’t understand Andy, he’s suffered aplenty, as perfectly denoted by: I just had my Oakeshott in the Widener library for succor. It doesn’t get much worse than Wideneresque Oakeshott succor.
The man has seen things I shudder to comprehend.
Scamp Dog
I started off a fan of his, back when he was anti-torture and had acknowledged the reality in Iraq. But then he started to get too cute on economic issues, arguing against Ehrenreich’s Nickeled and Dimed, explaining that there was dignity in work, and why were liberals (or the left, whatever) against that? Either he missed the part about the cleaning lady hopping about her work on one foot because she couldn’t afford to take any time off, never mind getting medical attention, or he didn’t think it meant anything.
He’s a polemicist, trained in debate to be able to muster arguments for either side. If he’s on the right side (as in the torture issue), he’ll come up with logical, cogent reasons. If he isn’t, he’ll figure out some plausible sounding nonsense. How he picks what side to be on isn’t clear, and he’s no asset to anybody on a regular basis in the public sphere.
Cluttered Mind
@Scamp Dog: How he picks what side to be on isn’t clear? I agree, dollar bills aren’t transparent.
Jeff
I was the guy who brought up Sullivan talking about raising nearly $1 million for his blog.
$1 million. Him, a few part timers, a few interns and an IT guy, plus server bandwidth. He’s been crowing about going ad-free for the last year and now he quits.
What an absolute fuckwit grifter.
Amir Khalid
@dedc79:
Is there not a single worthwhile blogging voice from among Sully’s crew? I’m wondering why Sully has chosen to discontinue the blog altogether, when he could have handed it over to one or more of his Minions. Besides, the Dish might make more sense if an excitable Twinkie in blue overalls were to fill it with strings of nonsense syllables.
Botsplainer
Sullivan, like the vast majority of overpaid political pundits, has never actually done anything in life. Same thing with Chait, Ezra Klein, McMegan, Jennifer Rubin, the NRO fucktards, everybody at Reason, etc., etc., etc.
Its like they graduate straight into punditry, propelling their stray philosophical brain farts among the masses without a clue on how the real world works.
It isn’t even as if they had any kind of genuine investigative journalistic careers before going into punditry.
When the Revolution comes, I’m going to be throwing wads of cash at scalpers so I can be in the front row seats closest to the wall for the days of pundit executions.
kindness
Wow. I am one of those who still reads Sully. I frequently don’t agree with him. But yea, wow.
Cervantes
@trollhattan:
Worse? Or better?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@kindness: He, along with Tweetys show, has been my window into VIllage thinking since I gave up on Sunday shows and most of the Friedman/Broder types. I quit watching Tweety a few months back, when he was screeching about who we were all beheaded by ISIS now. It wasn’t a conscious decision, but I don’t miss it. I don’t think I’ll miss Sullivan either
Amir Khalid
@Seanly:
Since she’s wife to the leader of the KSA’s most important ally, I reckon they decided not to make a fuss about it. I presume she did respect their standards to the extent of wearing long sleeves and skirts.
Woodrow/Asim
@schrodinger’s cat: I found this site via Sully, as well.
As much as I can (and will) dig on Sullivan for a host of flaws (including and esp. his horrific support to “discuss” THE BELL CURVE), I think it makes a lot of sense. It’s not just 15 years of writing, it’s 15 years of writing an intense amount of words w/o a standard support system (e.g. news organization). He does have a team, but from what I could tell it was him writing most of the content.
I don’t think he and I will ever agree; to some extent the “banner years” of THE DISH were around mutual distaste for the Bush years, and you can’t really have a serious connection over hating similar things.
schrodinger's cat
DougJ@top. You posted a non-music thread. Does that mean you are back?
Villago Delenda Est
@Fair Economist:
He needs to get a gig at the WaPo, where lazy-ass “journalism” is the order of the day.
Villago Delenda Est
@Botsplainer:
You need to take up knitting, so you can have a ringside seat with Sarah Proud and Tall.
dedc79
@Amir Khalid: Didn’t Conor Friedersdorf get his start over there? I think he’s moved on to the Atlantic though.
My recollection is that when Sully was on vacation, he had some pretty good guest bloggers (and some not-so-good ones such as Mr. Deboer), but that most weren’t of the professional blogging sort.
Monala
As obnoxious as Sully can be, especially about women’s issues and race issues, I did appreciate reading his blog for one huge reason: the forum he gave to his readers to give their feedback about his posts, or about other issues of the day. His posts that began, “A reader responds…” and often included, “Another reader counters…” were virtually always thoughtful and worthwhile reading.
low-tech cyclist
We split up on a dark, sad night, both agreeing it was best.
gogol's wife
@Villago Delenda Est: @Botsplainer:
Time to post “Comes the revolution, baby”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnU7Xfn5BoM
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh36:
Can’t imagine why this is even an issue. FLOTUS was dressed modestly and appropriately. Nobody expected POTUS to wear a keffiyeh, did they?
chopper
he’s decided to quit and spend more time with his tediousness.
currants
@Lee: And good riddance, I say. Quit reading that blog in ’08-’09–just could not stomach one more anti-life whinge from yet one more well-off white person with a platform who would never have to face such an actual choice.
Barney
Fred Clark has got the perfect line for this: For Whom the Bell Curves
Origuy
@Amir Khalid: She wore long sleeves and slacks. ThinkProgress had an article with pictures of her and other foreign women visiting Saudi Arabia, including Laura Bush, without headscarves.
Mandalay
@Monala:
Huh? That “forum” was Sullivan selectively posting feedback that he received! Blogs that do not allow comments to be posted can still be good (e.g. Digby), but they can hardly be called forums.
raven
Cool. I always had to ask who the fuck this “Sully ” was and never really gave a fuck. AMF
Another Holocene Human
@Amir Khalid: That was a sick burn. :-D
Monala
@Mandalay: No, I know that. It’s just that he did a good job of picking intelligent comments that in many cases, disagreed with him strongly and cogently. Comments sections in a lot of places can be mine fields, and so I appreciated being able to easily read thoughtful perspectives without having to wade through a lot of crap. (Now, you could argue that Sully’s own posts were that crap to wade through, but it was easy enough to skip them and go straight to his readers’ comment posts.)
Tractarian
I have a soft spot for Sully. He can be abhorrent at times, of course, but who can’t? The Dish is an internet institution – and it will be missed.
That said, his excuse for leaving is beyond ridiculous. Stress? From writing a blog? Meanwhile, the rest of us fantasize about how liberating and relaxing it would be to be your own boss, and work from home, and still get paid, just like Sully.
This has got to be about his health – his recent absence was longer than usual, and it would be understandable if he wasn’t entirely forthcoming if, in fact, his condition took a turn for the worse.
Either that or all of his subscribers suddenly realized they weren’t going to shell out anymore because you can get all the posts free on RSS.
Another Holocene Human
@Botsplainer:
Yup. Those of us unfortunate enough to be overeducated and then have to do shit more complicated than just following orders in the “real world” end up finding out how distorting the school days view of the world really is, oh, and your colleagues aren’t like your teachers, hanging on every pearl of bullshit you can conjure up by skimming the cliffnotes and cross-referencing archived NYT Review of Books reviews the afternoon before class.
McMegan is also very privileged. She’s one of those upper crust society ladies lecturing the peons trying to be admitted to her ranks. But they’ll never be like McMegan because their daddies didn’t own half of NYC.
MattF
I gave up on Sullivan not too long ago– he’d become a caricature, or possibly, just ran out of click-bait. I also got somewhat grossed out by the semi-porn that he posted every now and then. I never quite got the point of that– if you want erotica/porn, there’s no lack of it on the intertubes.
Billy K.
I hear he’s opening up a competitor to Buzzfeed.
P.S. Come to think of it, I believe I have Sully to thank for introducing me to Balloon-Juice, as well. So there is that.
Mandalay
@lamh36:
No. Cruz is deluded enough to think that he could be the Republican facing Hillary Clinton, so he’s trying to give himself some “women” credentials for the election, and provide the illusion that he can work with the opposition. That’s all.
I’m sure Clinton’s research team have already prepared examples of how Cruz and his policies actually shit on women from a great height, so one hypocritical tweet isn’t going to help his sorry ass.
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Morning Joe! Ten minutes listening in the car and I know what they’ll be pushing for the next month.
“Oh, okay, it’s going to be privatize the VA. Got it”
trollhattan
@schrodinger’s cat:
I’ll opine it’s implicitly a musical thread.
MattF
@lamh36: Well, since so many Republicans despise Cruz, maybe he’s trying to suck up to the Dems.
MattF
@MattF: Also note, via Krugman, that Cruz has jumped on the anti-Fed crazy train:
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/01/28/rand-paul-and-ted-cruz-join-forces-against-the-fed/?smid=nytpolitics
Roger Moore
@Monala:
Lots of blogs do this much better; it’s called a comment section. It’s a place where people can have a free-wheeling conversation that’s started by the blogger’s comments but not limited to the ideas that he sees as worthy of front page attention. I think Sullivan might find his blogging life a bit less hectic and stressful if he had one so that he didn’t have to do most of the heavy lifting.
Pogonip
@Botsplainer: Please save me a seat.
Ben Cisco
Anytime a “Bell Curve” pimp steps away from the mic, an angel gets its wings.
@gogol’s wife: “NBC will not be able to predict a winner at 8:32 on reporting from 29 districts…”
Pogonip
@Origuy: My aunt and uncle lived there for a while. At that time, foreign women were not expected to veil as long as they covered their hair, arms, and legs. Americans ( and the occasional Thai wife along for the ride) rarely left their compound anyway; there wasn’t much worth seeing at the time.
Alex S.
Good Bye, most inconsistent blogger of the world. Maybe if he hadn’t stressed himself out that much, his thoughts would have been a little clearer every once in a while. I still sometimes visited to see what he was talking about, sadly, not because I liked the quality of his writing, but because I wondered what he would come up with about this or that. I mean, it wasn’t his intellect I liked, but the drama and cognitive dissonance. He has a couple of rough months behind him, defending his ‘legacy’ at the TNR, the Chait drama, and possibly the failure of his business model. I think the way to go for bloggers at the moment is to get their name out into the public by writing for free, and then to attach themselves to a major publication, like Nate Silver did at the NYT, or Ezra Klein at the WaPo. Nate Silver is apparently in trouble now, Vox is doing ok. I think the ‘single man’ show doesn’t work, if the blogger wants to make money with his blogging.
Mandalay
@MattF:
Cruz, Paul and Perry are all demanding that the Fed should “open its books”, but I have been unable to find out exactly what changes they want to implement. It’s all bluster without details.
Roger Moore
@Mandalay:
They can’t actually point to anything the Fed has done that’s illegal, but they don’t like the policies the Fed has adopted. So they’re trying to intimidate the Fed with the threat of a big, messy audit and go on a fishing expedition in the hopes that there’s some minor accounting flaw they can exaggerate into a scandal. Standard Rethuglican MO.
Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937
Who knew full time, paid, blogging job could be so stressful. Good riddance blowhard. I don’t understand how someone who felt they were a pioneer in blogging never allowed comments. He just spews his mostly wrong opinion and leaves it there. Its pure narcissism.
mai naem mobile
Never liked Sully. I detest a pretentious Oxbridge accent. I find him to be extremely self absorbed.. My guess is he’s made his money.He’ll be a citizen next year. He’s been a writer for decades now and I doubt he’s made less than six figures in decades and he’s basically retiring. I’m sure he’ll get some part time teevee/speaking gig for any extra unexpected expenses but he’s probably netted at a minimum, half a million, from the last couple of years. He doesn’t need to work.
buddy h
John Fugelsang: ‘The great Andrew Sullivan retires from blogging and now I have no place to get the gay Catholic Republican POV.’
srv
One thing IS for sure – we’ve passed Peak Sully.
He said he stood up and cheered when he read Chait’s piece.
trollhattan
@Roger Moore:
“Audit the Fed” admittedly fits nicely on a bumper sticker, so their followers’ prime reading source is covered right there. Works better than, say, “Hear our squawkins, repeal Humphrey-Hawkins”
trollhattan
@srv:
Sully continuously leaped over an endless shark supply but my personal “throw Andy under the bus” moment was when he approvingly linked to McMegan after leaving The Atlantic, clearing up the chronic question of whether his earlier “heh-indoozle” links were dictated by their being dorm roomies.
I’d call him a two-trick pony but I’m not satisfied he ever mastered trick 2.
DougJ
@trollhattan:
Yeah, it was mostly an excuse to put an Al Green video.
I’m not really back.
burnspbesq
When he’s actually gone, you will miss him. He was a safe window on actual conservative thought. Now all you have is Larison, and if you tune him out you will have achieved the same epistemic closure of which you so gleefully accuse the right.
RaflW
@Calouste:
That could well be. He’s looking at projections for the next year and folks are not quite as keen as they were when this concept was new and shiny. Like many magazines before him (and before the intertrons), you gotta have the right editorial mix to keep your readers engaged and paying.
And unlike a magazine, i don’t imagine the Dish can run around offering $7.95 (aka 60% off) savings mailers. He’s not selling eyeballs to advertisers, so discounting gets him nothing.
So, yeah, I think the venture might have been fun for him the first 18 months, but now he’s gotta make payroll and run a business? Mmmm, yeah, he’s not so much an entrepreneur.
burnspbesq
@DougJ:
Dude, wait till you hear the new Diana Krall album. It’s a complete and self-contained “worst covers ever” thread, handed to you on a plate.
WJS
@schrodinger’s cat: Wow, I just got $19.99 refunded to my credit card from Andrew Sullivan’s Dish said no one ever because when he quit the Daily Beast he knew he was at the end of his blogging rope and wanted to cash in.
Talk about a grifter. Sully is sitting on a throne made of cash, suckers. Well, not really, but still.
That evil, liberal, fact-hating market has struck down a mighty conservative.
Keith G
@Seanly:
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No it isn’t. VOX has a good summary of the protocol.
@dedc79:
Sully was a good aggregation service. I visited often, but stayed far away from anything that was based on his personal opinions. Then again, there have been front pagers here whom I treated the same way. One of his highly used sources is Kottke, another aggregator who is very worth the clicks.
dedc79
@burnspbesq: I don’t think it constitutes epistemic closure if there are no sane conservatives remaining to ignore.
And Larison covers a much narrower scope, particularly when compared to Sullivan.
Violet
@Fair Economist:
I agree. The number of blogs is shrinking and it seems like a loss.
Surprised by Sully. Thought he’d go out while typing a blog post.
Bobby Thomson
Dude, I’ve seen my share of
spinalsGBCWs. This fuckerwalkscomes back within a Friedman Unit.brantl
Bye, bye, dumbass!
dedc79
@Keith G: Yeah, and to his credit, he devoted a substantial amount of attention to literary criticism, poetry and short stories (even if it was mostly on the weekend), even though I doubt it helped bring in many views.
Rand Careaga
@Tractarian: I despised Sullivan back when he was a red-fanged apologist for the Iraq invasion, but took his apology seriously. I differed from many of the other positions he maintained, but subscribed to his blog because, even when his stance was crosswise to mine, he presented his arguments, however disagreeable (cf. Charles Murray), without any viciousness. I appreciated a lot of his linked aggregations, and will miss his presence online.
schrodinger's cat
I had predicted that his independent operation would not last. He actually lasted longer than I thought he would. I think he will be back under the umbrella of an established name in a few months.
Mike in NC
@schrodinger’s cat: Sully will come crawling back.
Violet
@schrodinger’s cat: I think he’ll take a six month vacation or so. Visit his family in the UK. Rest up. Maybe take a nice trip somewhere else. Then he’ll be back. I think he’ll be a writer for some place like the Atlantic where he gets to do editorial-y pieces. Occasional long form piece.
Mandalay
@Keith G:
He was, but 3quarksdaily does a very similar thing, but is even better IMO.
Keith G
@Mandalay: Thanks. I’ll look around there.
brantl
@Tractarian:
If you don’t know any people who aren’t, your standards need to improve. Period.
David Rickard
Is it totally horrible of me that the first thing that went through my head when I saw his retirement post was “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead”?
rikyrah
I know he says it’s not about his health, and I hope it’s not.
Librarian
I read Sully mostly for the cultural stuff, which I am going to miss, but I never became a subscriber. I just couldn’t bring myself to give money to Andrew Sullivan.
Major Major Major Major
He was a blowhard, but his aggregation shall be missed. I’ll have to see what the interns get up to.
And IIRC he didn’t have a comment section because he was over people calling him a disease-riddled faggot. Maybe comment sections have improved over the years, but he started so early. Even TNC moderates his heavily.
Keith G
I mentioned Kottke above. Then, I went to his site and saw this utterly amazing computer generated graphics that model an interior with fantastic realism.
trollhattan
@burnspbesq:
Hasn’t he effectively “been gone” for years, by now? his page clicks must have been a tiny fraction of whatever they were at his peak readership. Conversely…
NobodySpecial
This member of the fifth column says Fuck You, Sullivan.
brantl
@burnspbesq: Eat me, he sucked, case closed.
Mike E
@DougJ: Somehow I see you writing Sully a handwritten note a la Peyton Manning in praise of his passing career…I’d go easy on the Xs and Os, tho.
Seth Owen
I found BJ via Sullivan too.
He had his good and his bad. Like all conservatives he had a hard time with social justice issues that don’t affect him personally. So he was on favor of gay rights, but largely indifferent to women, blacks or the poor.
On the other hand he has been a strong voidd against torture.
I, too, suspect health concerns may lie behind this decision. Maybe not directly, but in a priority setting way. I was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. It has only had a relatively small direct impact so far, but it certainly caused a major reassessment.
Matt McIrvin
@Seanly: For female American officials, First Ladies and such to go unveiled in Saudi Arabia is actually completely normal, and people had to look fairly hard to find the outrage over it:
http://www.vox.com/2015/1/28/7928167/michelle-obama-saudi-arabia-headscarf
So the story is pretty much a nothingburger.
Patricia Kayden
Started reading Sullivan in 2008 and loved that he wholeheartedly supported President Obama although he irrationally focused on Palin’s pregnancy “lies”. Had to stop reading him after he had a meltdown when President Obama didn’t do so well in his first debate against Romney. Didn’t like that he called President Obama lazy.
I bought a cool table book about dogs underwater which Sullivan featured on his blog so I got something good from reading him.
Arclite
@lamh36:
In New England the weather forecasters predicted cats and dogs would fall from the sky, but it only turned out to be shrews and voles.
Arclite
Well, fifteen years of 7 day a week, 12-14 hour days will do that to you. I don’t understand why he didn’t just cut back to a more reasonable 8-hour per day, 5 day per week schedule? He’s had a decent stable of helpers for years that could have kept things up on the weekends, if needed. There are lots of blogs that don’t even update on the weekends.
Cokane
Seems fishy. Bet $ wasnt enough.
Roger Moore
@Major Major Major Major:
That’s a good reason to moderate comments- or have an intern who moderates the comments so you don’t have to read the hate yourself- not a good reason to eliminate comments completely.
randy khan
@RaflW: Sullivan has posted data on subscribership and renewals on a regular basis, and through November was looking at roughly $1 million in revenue for 2014. Unless there was a cliff-like drop off in the last month or so, that’s not a home run, but it looks like a reasonably solid business. (There’s a total of about 8 people listed in the masthead, presumably paid varying amounts.)
Personally, I will miss him, in part because of the times I disagree with him. Whatever else you think of him, he at least makes his arguments in a fairly coherent way and is willing to admit when he’s wrong much more than the average blogger. (And count me in the group that prefers his approach to comments to what you see on other high-volume sites.)
Mandalay
@Major Major Major Major:
If so then I don’t blame him at all. But TBF, as I recall, Sullivan twice allowed his readers to vote on whether to allow comments (one time being fairly recently), and both times they were against it.
TNC also participates in the comments section for his articles, and (with good reason) has warned posters they will get blocked if they keep going down the ugly path.
Unfortunately Sullivan and TNC are guaranteed to attract vile, sick, worthless posters.
Mandalay
@Patricia Kayden:
Yes, I remember that well, and that was pretty much the final straw for me as well. With friends like Sullivan you don’t need enemies:
What a jackass.
Morzer
Sure you did.
Andrew Sullivan, as always, extracting a full bag of shit from a dead horse.
Tones
@Villago Delenda Est: Morbius!
Tones
@Botsplainer: as in “a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first against the wall…” ?
Marvelous
Morzer
This seems to be a good match for the thread:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-palin-teleprompter-iowa-speech
Ah, how Fox has fallen from the glory days when it insisted that Obama was lost without a teleprompter!
Howard Beale IV
I come not to priase Sully-but to bury him, stick his head on a pike him and hope he never lights a single pixel or spills a single microliter of ink again.