Saw this cool van at a music festival Saturday:
I know y’all already talked about the Michael Sam draft. I just wanted to say I’ve always loathed the Rams, ever since they beat the Bucs in a playoff game in 1999 due to a blown review call, and the Rams’ then-quarterback Kurt Warner rubbed salt in that wound by attributing that “victory” to Jeebus in front of every microphone in North America when it was obviously orchestrated by Satan or Vegas, pardon the redundancy. But now I’ll have to root for the Rams anyway, damn it.
A Miami Dolphins player got in trouble for a tweet in which he apparently expressed disgust with Sam and his boyfriend’s post-draft PDA. The yahoos in the comments section of our local rag are predictably misunderstanding the First Amendment, fretting about what the children will think and wondering why The Gays are “shoving it down our throats” again. Always the throat metaphor with that crowd. Dr. Freud on line one, assholes.
Please free free to discuss whatever.
Another Holocene Human
Freud would have had a field day with that oral fixation. Yes, it’s just like the time Mommy made you eat spinach from a can. Didn’t he consider oral fixation a sign of arrested development?
Now we know it’s not arrested development, it’s overdevelopment of the amygdala and an overactive disgust response.
the Conster
The yahoos are as versed in the new testament as they are with the first amendment. Why oh why isn’t stupidity fatal?
Belafon
If he makes the cut, the Rams will sell a lot of jerseys.
SatanicPanic
“They keep tickling our nipples with their agenda!”
jeffreyw
Betty, I saw this cartoon the other day and giggled. Just a little giggle, maybe a titter.
raven
@Belafon: They are already selling them.
Roger Moore
They’re just upset that they’re not getting it in other places.
patrick II
I lived in St. Louis during the Rams good run with Warner. I don’t particularly like proselytizing after football games, but I will say this: Warner walked the walk. He is a hell of a nice guy, personally generous and known in for St. Louis for his work with various charities.
scav
But, dear dear, you mean the first right absolutists weren’t out in comment-section force defending the right of a company to show any combination of gender or race family in advertising? Are the Sterling should suffer no consequences for private speech Enthusiasts out on the front-lines protesting the Cincinnati Catholic Church defining all teachers as “ministers” so they can fire them without legal consequences for private words and beliefs?
MomSense
Ok so I have been thinking about Benghazi. I know, I know I’m proving the point one finger and mock and the others point back…whatever.
I think Democrats should participate in the Benghazi witch hunt and ask a bunch of conspiracy questions like who funded the real estate broker/ex con/filmmaker who made the Mohammed film? Why did they release the controversial film in the ME right before 9-11? Why did CIA at compound next door wait so long to respond to assault? Was Petraeus in contact with Roger Ailes? What was the real reason he was being investigated and resigned? Was this coordinated with Romney campaign? Was this a Republican pre-October surprise gone wrong? Basically we should just go full metal tin foil hat and see how fast the Republicans shut it down. We don’t even need to ask the questions- just issue a bunch of subpoenas, request a ton of FOX internal emails, Romney campaign communications, etc all in support of the crazy conspiracy and see how quickly the Republicans change their minds about holding the investigation.
Roger Moore
@Belafon:
Unfortunately, they won’t benefit much because licensing revenue is shared equally. The NFL is incredibly socialist, so the boring, risk averse teams get as much benefit from the signing of the first gay player as the team that took the risk by signing him. About the only revenue that teams don’t have to share is money from luxury suites and in-stadium advertising, which is why they’re so focused on getting fancy new stadiums with new opportunities to milk those revenue streams.
Gator90
It would, of course, be a Dolphins player making a public ass of himself. Sigh.
raven
@Gator90: Yea cuz the gators were all busy looking for a coach.
FlyingToaster
@the Conster:
Stupidity is fatal if you live in a marginal environment. But if you live in an environment that you’re well adapted to, and your environment doesn’t suffer a catastrophic change, you’ll very likely muddle along.
Another New Madrid earthquake would not bode well for a lot of these nitwits. They already don’t have basements or hardened tornado shelters. It will be like the people who refuse to evacuate the Gulf Coast during hurricanes.
Morzer
@Gator90:
Well, Don Jones is no Aaron Hernandez, that’s for sure.
James Hare
@Roger Moore: There are some pretty wealthy gay folks. Maybe some of them will decide to do things like purchase luxury suites to watch Sam play. If nothing else the strong jersey sales will create the impression that drafting Sam had some serious upside potential.
Alex S.
I think it would be funnier if they said that something is getting “rammed” down their throats.
Morzer
@James Hare:
Sam has apparently now begun claiming that he should have gone in the 3rd round. I can’t see that he’s got much of a case in football terms.
Betty Cracker
@raven: I wish! ;-)
Brett M
I remember that cold, dark night in ’99 as well. A call so bad they revised the rules to prevent it happening again. Totally robbed Dungy of his deserved ring, and forced us to watch Chucky steal the team he built and ride it to a Superbowl. Yes, still bitter. I blame Benghazi.
Anoniminous
@FlyingToaster:
Or if the stupid people live in an environment created and built by smart people.
raven
@Betty Cracker: We want you to keep him as long as possible!
Shinobi
I’m so excited that the Rams drafted Michael Sam! I have been forced to root for the Bears due to living in Chicago and the Ram’s general hopelessness. But this at least gives me a reason to dust off my Isaac Bruce jersey.
Bubblegum Tate
The Rams also drafted the son of P.A. Pasemaster Mase, aka Maseo of De La Soul, so I guess I’m a lightweight Rams fan now.
Mnemosyne
John Oliver had kind of a funny bit on his show last night — basically, the fact that the ESPN announcers said the exact same boring things about Sam kissing his boyfriend as they did about the other players kissing their girlfriends proves that we’ve won the war. Woo-hoo!
Plus the bit with Bill Nye was really funny and pointed.
Laertes
I really wish the wingers would quit shoving their bizarre sexual-imagery-laden metaphors down our throats.
srv
FREAKONOMICS book tour!
If y’all will come up with the wordisms, I’ll try to hire this guy to be at the Castro next week.
Freakoglibertarian
12 Galaxies
Truth 4 TEDdy Totebaggers
…?
Another Holocene Human
@MomSense: It’s almost BTDT. I think that Fox starting the Susan Rice shit less to save Romney (they thought it made Obama look weak on its own) and more to start a new line of inquiry to discredit any connection to the video.
Well, report after report is out and the video was important. It provided the opportunity for those asshats to launch an assault. But I think there are some unclean hands in RWNJ land wrt that video and they do NOT want any more attention on it.
Dirty, dirty shit.
MattF
@Laertes: The Onion had the last word on that ‘metaphor’:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,10861/
Mart
@Morzer: It was really pissing me off that nobody had the balls to draft Michael Sam. He was Co-Defensive SEC Player of the Year. That title almost always equates to a first round lock in the draft. Due to his tweener size and speed, he was a projected third or fourth rounder. After teh gay came out, he was almost immediatley dropped to would likely get invited to camp status. The talking heads jumped all over his poor combine to sell the Sam may not get drafted meme; although Michael did right the ship a bit a month later at Missouri. I think STL got a steal, and hope Sam Rams it down Seattle’s throat.
Villago Delenda Est
@Laertes: They can’t help it. They’re utterly obsessed with it As Dan Savage has pointed out, they think more about gay sex than he does.
Another Holocene Human
@raven: @Morzer:
I am not a Gator. But Rick Scott finally restored some funding to higher education so why not gloat about that? And Machen is finally leaving. Among his other outrages he wants you to pronounce his name “Matchin'”. Piker.
MomSense
@Another Holocene Human:
I’m just wondering how Republicans will react if they see Dems issuing subpoenas to find out more about the video, the financial backing, the connections, etc. It does seem dirty, doesn’t it.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mart: He was drafted by the Rams. 7th round, to be sure, but he was drafted.
And I’m sorry, while I am a Rams fan (coolest helmets EVAH), I am a Seahawks fan first (curse you NFL for putting my two favorite teams in the same division) and the Seahawks RULE.
Amir Khalid
Wouldn’t it be cool if the guy driving that Microbus were a muscular dude in blue tights and a red cape?
Paul in KY
@Morzer: As you know, they only gave him SEC Defensive player of year cause he’s teh gay & all that.
If you did what he did in college, why ever would you assume you should be drafted above Round 4?
Little snark there…
Villago Delenda Est
@Amir Khalid: Spiderman doesn’t wear a cape.
ranchandsyrup
Another opportunity for the Tebow worshipers to play the victim.
Xecky Gilchrist
I’m very curious to see how this whole Sam thing plays out, and I say this as a person who’s not interested in football or its institutions at all. It’s hard to imagine a bigger monument to toxic masculinity than American football – or so I’d thought. The wingnut freakage will be titanic, and the fact that Sam is accepted by a lot of fans and even the troggy team owners gives me a bit more faith in humanity.
Villago Delenda Est
@ranchandsyrup: These fucking people need to be fed to some lions.
If only we could do that without harming the lions.
Villago Delenda Est
@Xecky Gilchrist: Yeah, Atrios is drooling at the prospect of LImbaugh blowing several gaskets today.
Shakezula
@MattF: I’m glad I checked before I posted this link.
In other news – Rabbits! A stray domestic rabbit had kits under our house. On Friday we thought there were four. On Sunday we saw 6.
On the one hand I am worried the fabulous Mr. Fox will get them. On the other, the little bastids ate my peas. I can’t decide if we should try to get them into a hutch or just wait and see what happens.
Missouri Buckeye
@patrick II:
I was a Rams fan, too, but I really hated Warner’s proselytizing.
Of course you never hear a losing player say, “Jesus really let our team down today.”
Shinobi
@Xecky Gilchrist: I actually think it was a good PR move by the Rams owners as well. There is a small but thriving gay community in STL where they are reviving some old neighborhoods and bringing in some great culture. I’m not sure they are really a football crowd, but this could really expand the Ram’s popularity in the community. (Though I’m sure some folks from down state will dislike it.)
Mart
@Villago Delenda Est: I have the same problem, I live near STL but really enjoy the Seahawks, just trying to work in a Ram throat joke. What was pissing me off was there were like three picks left in the LAST round when they drafted Sam, and I thought he had fallen off the table. I actually applauded the TV when the Rams picked him.
JPL
@Betty Cracker: In my little suburban area, we have a visiting fox. Hopefully he goes home soon. Of course, he won’t find chicken coops cuz city hall frowns upon them. A neighbor told me about the fox on Saturday and I saw him across the street early this morning when I took the dog out.
Craigo
@Mart: He was projected as a mid-to-late round pick before he came out, and then he hurt his stock with a mediocre combine performance. He doesn’t have the size to play true defensive end or the skill set (yet) to be a true linebacker. It’s not a surprising result.
If we handed out NFL draft picks and trophies based on what guys did in college, Tim Tebow would have all the MVPs, and all the Super Bowl rings.
Botsplainer
I had a long discussion with Dad about Sam’s draft placement. He reacted like most other old white guys (“nobody wants him in the locker room or to see his boyfriend traveling to games”). As I put it (in an attempt to blunt his old white guy response), Sam didn’t have a great combine, he’s not quite up to size, his speed is a little off, and if he’s just not up to par, he’ll be just like Tebow – difficulat to cut without an uproar.
In short, I made it all about football business, which is the only thing it should be about.
ranchandsyrup
@Villago Delenda Est: Feed them to the Detroit Lions.
Mike G
Just once I’d like to hear the losing team’s captain say, “I’d like to blame Jesus Christ for our loss today.”
raven
@Craigo: ding
schrodinger's cat
I am actually feeling sleepy so I am hoping that I will be able to sleep tonight. It is a little after 10.30 in India right now.
JPL
@schrodinger’s cat: Do you have another update on your travels?
Morzer
@Another Holocene Human:
OK… and what does that have to do with Sam?
Gator90
@ranchandsyrup: They claim that Tebow (whom — full disclosure — I adore) was mocked for “being Christian.” But that’s not true of course — Tebow was mocked for his constant and flamboyant public displays of his brand of Christianity. To be comparable to Tebow, Sam would have had to simulate giving his boyfriend a blowjob upon receiving the news he’d been drafted.
schrodinger's cat
@JPL: Some drafts are in the pipeline but not yet published. I saw some skinny stray kittehs, they make me so sad.
Trollhattan
Teh Rhams play SF 2x/year, during which time I shall root for them. At other times, root I shall not.
Will add that their defence was already tough as hell last year, so adding more defense is not a welcome development, also, too.
That will be all.
Betty Cracker
@Mike G: One time a few years ago, some player did send out a tweet suggesting that Jesus had a hand in a bone-headed play. Something along the lines of, “All I do is praise you, and that’s what I get?!?!?!?” I found it refreshing, but it caused a firestorm of controversy, as you can imagine. The player had to walk it back and assure fans that he didn’t personally blame Jesus. What a great gig Jesus has — all the credit in good times, none of the blame in bad.
Howlin Wolfe
@Villago Delenda Est: But superman’s “S” on the font kinda rules spidey out.
Tommy
I live just outside of St. Louis. I’d argue a moderate city. Nothing liberal. The paper went ape shit crazy over Michael Sam (in a good way). Almost all of the sports page Sunday was given to him. Most of the front page in fact. That other cities/teams wouldn’t pick him but we did.
I got no idea if he will make the team. He played for a team in this area. But honestly it felt darn good to pick up that paper.
Morzer
@Craigo:
It’s also the case that being drafted in a later round doesn’t mean you can’t achieve great things in the NFL. Zach Thomas was drafted in the 5th round – and he had himself a pretty nice little career. If Michael Sam wants to have a great career, he has the chance to earn it.
One other factor in Sam’s slide is that he isn’t likely to be a special teams contributor, which is pretty much part of the expectation for players taken later in the draft.
Gator90
@Morzer: At least Hernandez had the decency to help UF win a national title and then leave the school before he (at least as far as I know) started killing people.
Morzer
@Betty Cracker:
That was Stevie Johnson, who at the time was playing for the Bills. He was traded by them this year after they drafted Sammy Watkins.
Keith G
@Xecky Gilchrist:
I am more optimistic (for me a pathological condition). This is a very short lived issue. Yeah, there will be some individual rumblings, but one thing about athletics is that it really is settled on the field/court/pitch. Michael either will have the combinations of attitude and skills that a team will pay for or he will not. If he is able to continue planting QB’s into the turf, all will be well.
In the 1970s, I began my Gay activism as a sophomore at Ohio State handing out leaflets announcing upcoming events to students as they walked between classes – to decidedly mixed reception. Every time I re-watch the “Kiss” video, I tear up. That clip of vid is every bit as important (in a slightly different way) as the now famous Biden slip of the lip.
Morzer
@Gator90:
Well, there’s some debate about exactly when Hernandez began his orgy of crime. All I can say is that the streets of Boston feel safer these days.
Tommy
@Craigo: I heard an amazing stat yesterday. No SEC Defensive Player of the Year, which Sam is/was, has ever been drafted past the 17th pic in the first round. Ponder that for a few seconds.
eric
As bad as the anti-Sam folks were, nothing compares to the anti-Teddy stuff i saw in the press and in comment sections. I am no wallflower and have never been in denial about racism in the US, but i was taken aback at the vitriol directed at Bridgewater on a personal level. I am a UL fan and he is a good kid and was a great college player. Whether he makes it in the pros is something we will all find out, but what i read was so over the top. As much as the Sam story ended on a positive note, I think the Bridgewater story (including the anonymous quote that he could not be “the face of a franchise”) was among the most disappointing things I have seen. When racism is not as “black and white” as Bundy or Sterling, it does not exist for many. Sad.
Morzer
@Tommy:
Sure, but this year was also the lowest that the first RB was taken. The pre-draft consensus among draftniks and football crazies was that this was a weak year for linebackers, with a big drop off after CJ Mosley. It’s not just about Sam.
JustRuss
@Mike G:
I’d like to hear a sports journamalist ask “Can you give us a quick rundown of which sins your team has committed that caused God to abandon you today? And by all means, include your owner’s activities.”
Morzer
@eric:
I am agnostic about Bridgewater as an NFL QB, but I was amazed that so many people decided to go after him as a person for no good reason.
Morzer
@JustRuss:
The Never Forget Leviticus league could be an interesting concept. Of course, that whole pigskin thing could be problematic.
Craigo
@Tommy:
“There are actually plenty of examples of players who found themselves in similar situations. For a seven-year stretch from 2002 to 2008, the six players who won the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year award were all drafted in the first round. The 2009 award winner, Michigan State linebacker Greg Jones, was drafted in the sixth round, 185th overall. The Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year award went to players who would be taken within the top 37 selections five years in a row, from 2000 to 2004. The 2005 DPOY was Nick Reid, and he went undrafted. An even more appropriate comparison might be one of the co–Big 12 Defensive Players of the Year this season, Texas lineman Jackson Jeffcoat. Jeffcoat, who had 13 sacks, was one of the two Associated Press All-Americans at defensive end this year. The other was Michael Sam. Despite that strong résumé, Jeffcoat went unselected in New York.”
These streaks are always amazing, until they’re broken.
Betty Cracker
@Gator90: LOL! Bingo!
Craigo
@Morzer: Bridgewater was actually my favorite QB prospect this year. Wasn’t aware he was being attacked personally.
Comrade Mary
@Gator90: Suddenly I’m a lot more interested in watching football.
Morzer
@Gator90:
Well, that would certainly get some folks talking about throat-ramming.
ranchandsyrup
@Gator90: Lol indeedy.
Speaking of lol, this did the trick for me, literally.
the Conster
I’m not getting out of the boat for NewsMax, but am very curious about the results of the “should Romney run again” poll. I’m going to guess 27% say yes.
Paul in KY
@Morzer: Stevie Johnson played for UK. Glad he is going to a contender.
Paul in KY
@Tommy: I’m wondering how far back that goes. They’ve been giving out that award for a long time.
Trollhattan
@Morzer:
He (Sam) is now just another rookie trying to 1. make the team and 2. make it onto the field during regular season games and 3. become a starter. Don’t follow the Lambs closely enough to know who he’s competing against on this particular team, but for most rookies–drafted or not–the results seldom lead to Step 3 their first season. Prove to the coaches that you will help them win and you’ll get to the promised land. In the meantime, you have to convince your teammates of the same thing, and that’s where Sam’s other challenge probably lies.
Craigo
@Paul in KY: Since 2003.
Paul in KY
@eric: Teddy will make alot of teams pay for passing him over. IMO, 2nd best QB in draft (after Bortles).
Origuy
@Villago Delenda Est:
Since when? Is this the 50th reboot of the Superman origin story?
Tommy
Watching the video of Sam when drafted I feel like maybe a corner has been turned. Not only did a large strong black man kiss another man, he kissed a white man. Lots of things, taboos, being broken all at the same time.
catclub
I think brain injuries, especially brain injuries to kids with protective mothers, will doom football sooner than later. By which I mean 15 years or so.
The fact that Michael Sam is raising the appeal of football to people who previously were not interested in it, is counter-trend.
Of course, if Michael Sam gets a horrible concussion early in his career, that would be a very different story line.
Origuy
@MomSense:
I read somewhere that only the chairman of this charade will have subpoena powers. Makes it hard to get the people who can answer those questions.
gwangung
@Paul in KY: What was the blowback he was getting? I thought he was a perfectly acceptable athlete?
Paul in KY
@Craigo: See, here’s where I don’t like their recapping (even if the stat might favor my point of view). SEC player of Year (Defensive/Offensive) has been given out since 70s. Put all those players in there & then do the stat.
Tommy
@Trollhattan: I am in St. Louis. Washington guy myself (please feel pity for me) but I listen to all the local sports. He has almost no chance to make the team. Fischer is our head coach. We got the Seahawks and the 49ers in our division. The Rams are defense, defense, in your face hard nose defense all the way. I hear the only way he can make the team is to be the best special teams player ever.
Paul in KY
@Origuy: Just ask the question of every person when it is your time to ask. Don’t have to supeona. Alot of these ‘questions’ are statements anyway. Lot of latitude in how you can bloviate up there.
Paul in KY
@gwangung: Just saying he was too short & arm not strong enough, etc.
This guy is a field general who makes great plays when the chips are down & gives the other players confidence.
Keith G
@Trollhattan: Michael has a very difficult task before him. From Sports Illustrated:
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It is possible that even though he does well, the Rams need to fill a greater need with his spot. In that case, after being cut, he might well be picked up by someone else who needs more pass rushers.
Tommy
@Paul in KY: I heard all that and the always “he didn’t play against anybody” for somebody from a smaller conference.
Josie
@MomSense: I think this is genius. The Democrats probably can’t issue subpoenas, but they surely could ask some interesting questions.
Craigo
@Keith G: St. Louis was a bit off a rough landing place for him. It looks like, Mizzou sentimentality aside, they wanted him for DE depth – if one of the starters goes down Hayes would slide in and Sam could rush the passer on 3rd down.
I think it’s as you say, though – barring injury he’ll go to the practice squad and get poached by a team with thin DL depth.
Craigo
@Paul in KY: They said Drew Brees and Russell Wilson were too short, too.
Craigo
@Paul in KY: They said Drew Brees and Russell Wilson were too short, too.
Tommy
@Keith G: That is what I am hearing here in St. Louis. Every Rams D line men is a first round pick. The ends you mentioned above, Robert Quinn and Chris Long are both top five first round pics and still only in their mid-20s. As I said in another comment when Fischer took over the team he realized the “Greatest Show On Turf” might have worked in 2001, but not now looking at San Fran and Seattle. He wants to beat them at their game, smash mouth football.
Just not sure Sam can work in that environment ….
eric
@Tommy: the comments to articles are what struck me. Yes, there were those who did he beat (other than Florida). The response to his mom getting the car were sick….dumb black athlete blowing his money. In so many words
Tommy
@eric: Sure he dropped in the draft. But he is going to get a contract worth at least $10M guaranteed isn’t he. Buying mom a $70,000 car doesn’t seem too over the top for me. But then again I love my mom.
Tommy
@eric: Oh I just get this car buying thing for a loved one. My father’s first date with my mom was in a 57 Ford Thunderbird. We have pics from it:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/webranding/8114170277/
When they came into some money a few years ago he tracked the car down, it was in TX, and bought it for her. Said here, I love you. So my mom tools around town daily in this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/webranding/6105429650/
Linnaeus
@BettyCracker:
You don’t have to. You can appreciate the step toward social advancement, yet still acknowledge that he plays for a team you don’t care for. I mean, if Sam were drafted by the Chicago Bears, I’d think that it was great they gave him a chance, but would still be cheering for them to lose just about every week.
Jay C
@MomSense:
And I’m thinking “maybe not”, and leave The Innocence of Muslims out of it, as much as possible. IIRC, at the time, most righties/Republicans were up in arms over criticism of that idiot “film”. Usually, it was just typical Muslim-bashing: self-congratulatory back-patting over our own wonderful “freedoms”, coupled with sneery dismissal of the swarthy barbarians who resorted to rioting over a “legitimate”, if vulgar, film. The more Innocence is brought up, I think, Committee Republicans will just make it another excuse for jingoistic self-righteous posturing, and divert attention away from what, IMHO, ought to be the Democrats’ more-important goal: i.e. exposing the Benghazi Committee’s fundamental fraudulence and hollow political posturing.
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raven
@Tommy: He played well against UGA here in their win but he got 9 of his 11.5 sacks against stiffs including the Gators.
Tommy
@raven: Listen I don’t agree with what I hear. Just saying what I hear. If I am not mistaken didn’t some think Ray Lewis was a little “small.”
raven
@Tommy:
raven
@Tommy: I like him a lot and I hope he makes it.
Roger Moore
@Gator90:
To the wingnuts, kissing his boyfriend is close enough.
Mike G
@ranchandsyrup:
That article is unbelieveable.
“Tebow went through hell” for being a Xtian?
If by “hell”, you mean, “having his mediocre ass kissed nonstop by the media”
Such delicate buttercups. Xtians utterly dominate the culture, but any negative feedback whatsoever is “persecution” as if they’re being fed to the lions.
Tommy
@raven: Your quote is off. You quoted me talking about Teddy Bridgewater.
Paul in KY
@Craigo: True dat!
raven
@Tommy: Got it.
Paul in KY
@eric: It’s a freaking Escalade! He didn’t buy her a Maserati or a Bentley.
Morzer
@Tommy:
Indeed. He was practically white suited.. I mean red-shirted.. for his first year in the NFL.
Tommy
@Mike G: I will just note this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMK9FKMG3Nc
Skip Bayless just said that Manziel will be bigger in Cleveland than LeBron ever was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q7shHxzdY
I know he says he is a health freak, but my gosh I think he is on drugs.
Trollhattan
@Tommy:
@Keith G:
That seems like a realistic take, given how I’ve seen their D play the last couple years. They’re extremely stingy and physical.
Dayumn, the NFC West has gone from doormat to doom for pretty much everyone who visits (AZ defense is likewise tough). Who’da thunk?
Paul in KY
@Tommy: Hate to be pendantic, but that’s not a 57. It is a 1956 T-Bird (the red one in pic).
Still a great present, though.
schrodinger's cat
I has a new post up, inspired by my close encounters with the godbothering kind.
Paul in KY
@Tommy: Think Skip Bayless is generally an idiot, but I sure hope that’s true. He would have to get us to a Super Bowl for that prediction to come true (and then not leave us for Miami).
Tommy
@Paul in KY: I am an LSU guy. Manziel’s worse game last year. He looked terrible. After my Redskins (gosh I hate to type that), Rams, the Browns are my next favorite team (long story). I wish you well. I don’t think Manziel is apart of it. The dude will get broken in half. If he starts the season he won’t make it through six games.
I mean I don’t want the guy to get hurt, just like I don’t want RG3 to get hurt, or anybody playing the game. But you hold the ball, much less get out of the pocket in the NFL you are going down if you are not the size of Luck or other larger QBs. You are not getting up on your own.
Paul in KY
@Tommy: Agree that he just can’t run it like he did in college. They will break him in two. I do think he should try & be like Fran Tarkenton (on the field). Running around back there, but always looking to throw downfield & only running when absolutely necessary & then getting out of bounds or going down before he takes a killshot.
Tommy
@Paul in KY: That is my point. Tarkenton played in a different era, not a time when a 300 pound man is running a 4.7 40. Heck there were not even 300 pound men in the league.
Cacti
Glenn Greenwald declares that Hillary will be the next POTUS but only because bitches be dumb:
Good thing GG is progressive purity personified, or his remarks would seem kind of sexist and white privilege-y.
Tommy
@Cacti: I agree with him most of the time. I am sure I would butt heads with many here if we got into some of the things he thinks and I think. :)
But he seems to be going off the rails.
I am so unhappy about many things he is unhappy about. But he keeps going more and more ….
To a large extent dude you won this round. Stop while you are ahead and come out again.
scav
@Cacti: So, Does that mean we can entirely, eternally and uniquely blame the historic reign of GWB on team XY and their blind devotion to all that which sports a cod, however enhanced? Ahh, and a side shout-out to the halcyon and enlightened days where all opposition to the cod-besporting president was deemed un’Mercan.
Paul in KY
@Tommy: I know, but that was how Fran operated. Johnny will need to be faster than Fran & get down quicker, etc. than Fran had to, but that’s how he should play (IMO).
Belafon
@Cacti:
The best part of this quote is that because of the first sentence, we don’t even have to do any work to validate the second sentence.
ETA: I don’t know of many people that have been calling Greenwald’s opposition of Obama racist. To me, he’s just seemed entirely anti-Western/anti-American.
Mnemosyne
@eric:
Have you seen the truck that Richard Sherman’s dad has? It’s pretty awesome. If I had that kind of money, I’d be buying my parents presents, too.
Kropadope
@Cacti: This is just a feint so that when legitimately misogynistic statements/actions are called out, the GGs of the world can say “I told you so. All despair the persecution of the white male christian.”
Howard Beale IV
BREAKING: Conservative candidate backing Sam Wyly has a sad. .
Morzer
@Cacti:
Oh no! The Great and Powerful Greenwald has uncovered our real plans for Michael Sam!!!
MomSense
Benghazi the musical!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWtP0sP5zWE#t=123
Tommy
@Paul in KY: I think it is also genes. I am 5’4 and 130 pounds. I never played organized football cause my parents wouldn’t let me. I played tackled football in the park. Brutal games. Did it from like 10 until after college. I’ve played every sport (went to a DI college on a sports scholarship). Never broke a single bone. Never hurt. I think genes.
He might be able to do the same.
Amir Khalid
@Cacti:
It would actually not be a bad thing if Hillary became the next POTUS. She might not be a natural like Obama (very few people are) but she’s well qualified by any yardstick that makes sense. One could have justified misgivings about her being an Establishment figure and the wife of a former President, or her less-than-perfect judgement in some situations, but she’d certainly be far better than any Republican currently thinking about a candidacy. Unless, of course, Glenn Greenwald has someone in mind who would be better than Hillary.
Morzer
@Amir Khalid:
That’s the thing with Greenwald’s schtick – he’s so pure and holier than thou that he has nothing constructive to say. It’s all bitter whining about how the real world refuses to work the way he insists that it should.
Kropadope
@Morzer:
So a libertarian?
burnspbesq
@Mart:
Relax. He got drafted. He’ll get a fair shot to prove that he can help the team, and if he can, he’ll stick and start collecting paychecks. He may start out making less as a seventh-round pick than if he had been a fourth-round pick, but if he sticks around long enough for a second contract, that difference will eventually be no more than a rounding error.
The NFL is arguably the most meritorcratic institution in American society. If you can play, you get paid. If you can’t, you get tossed aside. He’ll get a chance to prove that he can play. And that’s probably all he wants.
burnspbesq
@MomSense:
Those subpoenas will never be issued. It takes a majority vote of the committee to authorize the issuance of a subpoena.
Morzer
@Kropadope:
Half the time he sounds like a standard issue right wing crazy to me, but with longer paragraphs.
Kropadope
@Morzer: I think paragraphs alone qualify him as more than a statndard-issue right wing crazy.
Roger Moore
@burnspbesq:
Sports are among the most meritocratic institutions (at least when judging players) but I suspect that MLB is better than the NFL. Baseball stats are more revealing of individual ability than football stats, which makes it easier to measure merit, and MiLB is much closer in playing conditions to MLB performance than college football is to the NFL.
Chyron HR
@Cacti:
It really is a travesty how everyone who opposes the Kenyan Muslim gangsta thug baby daddy food stamp President is “depicted” as racist.
Morzer
@Chyron HR:
Pallin’ around with terrorists and giving them free phones also too.
burnspbesq
@Chyron HR:
I don’t have much of a problem with depicting racists as racist.
catclub
Does anyone have a facebook account? I do not but wanted to comment at 538 on the article:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-housing-bubble-tanked-the-economy-and-the-tech-bubble-didnt/
They neglect to mention the very different responses in government spending and employment for the two cases.
Somebody sabotaged the government employment response in the 2008- case. Not so for the 2000-1
recession – massive increase in government employment.
MomSense
@burnspbesq:
I know, I know. I’m just so sick of all this pointless BS while the world burns and melts (see next thread).
catclub
This is relevant: http://prospect.org/article/tracing-republican-evolution-climate-change
burnspbesq
Anonymous is going after Greenie. I may not stop laughing for days.
MomSense
@burnspbesq:
Say what??
eemom
@MomSense:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/12/report-claims-anonymous-will-protest-glenn-greenwald-for-ties-to-paypal-billionaire/
tee hee
John M. Burt
This vehicle needs to have a protective tarp with horn-rimmed glasses painted on it.
MomSense
@eemom:
HA!!!
LanceThruster
SUPERDUB away!!
Morzer
@eemom:
When glibertarian racists fall out, honest persons of less than perfect whiteness get their dues.
Jackie
I will root for Michael Sam, EXCEPT when the Rams are playing the Seahawks. That’s two games (and possible play-off games) I will NOT be cheering him on LOL! I do hope the Rams and Sam crush the 49ers! And the Cards! GO SEAHAWKS!