If you needed any more proof that Mistermix was dead on with his thesis regarding the feedback loop that is the modern GOP, here is Allahpundit reacting to the Mother Jones Romney videos:
The second video is of Romney joking that he’d have a better chance at being elected if he was Latino, which is almost certainly true.
Think fast- name all the American presidents with a Latino background, past and present.
Maude
I keep saying he’s stupid.
Is there anyone outside of Wall Street he hasn’t offended yet?
If so, it’s only Monday.
Edit, I meant Mitt.
Baud
FDR – Francisco Diaz Rodriguez
KG
Teddy Roosevelt fought in Cuba, that counts, right?
lumpkin
They’re not even trying anymore.
DanF
Off the top of my head …
George Washington Gonzalez
Thomas Ramirez
Abraham Heurtado
Anonymous
Looks like he wants his numbers among Latinos to match his numbers among African-Americans. I say follow your heart, Mitt.
Baud
Time for Romney to play the My-Dad-is-from-Mexico-therefore-I’m-Latino-too card.
Culture of Truth
Does this include Central and South America?
cathyx
Are Latinos as hated as blacks among republicans?
Culture of Truth
Romney studied Latin, so he’s almost there.
JPL
MItt and Ann have lived in a cocoon all their lives and have no idea how to interact with you people.
Jewish Steel
Mitt’s Mexican grandpa!
Wait. Not a US president. Just a president of the hot Mormon sister-wife ladies. Mreeow!
So never mind.
Culture of Truth
Ok how about this – what if Romney were Latino, but also possessed human emotions? Would his chances be better or worse?
Warren Terra
The best take on this I’ve seen – and I can’t remember where I saw it – is that Mitt Romney is the son of George Romney, who was himself born in Mexico to White American emigre parents) and became the President of AMC and the governor of Michigan.
Now imagine the possible career success in the executive suites of AMC in the 1950s and with the voters of Michigan in the 1960s not of George Romney but of Jorge Ramirez.
Leaving aside entirely the question of how Mitt Ramirez, son of Jorge, would have played with the Republican Primary voters, without his daddy he’d never have gotten that far.
BGinCHI
Um, if Romney was Latino he’d be polling at about 8% among Republicans.
He’d be spicier, but he’d still be an idiot and a loser.
MTiffany
[snark]Barack Obama — I mean, we all know he was born in Kenya, but one shade of brown is pretty much interchangeable with any other, so… [/snark]
Punchy
Bill Clintonista
Barack Obamez
Done.
Matthew Reid Krell
Yeah, but what about future U.S. Presidents? I mean, in 150 years all American Presidents will be Latino, so by that standard Mitt is totally right.
“Mitt Romney – Not Stupid, Psychic”
MobiusKlein
If Romney were gay he would have a higher chance –
any change away from his current persona is likely to be an improvement.
beltane
These videos are all over FB. At the rate Mitt’s going he’ll be the most hated man in America in no time. At least those who hate Mitt will know that the feeling is mutual.
Quicksand
Ronaldo Reagan?
Joel
BGinCHI
@JPL: Wilfred Brimley was excellent in their home movies though.
Dexter's new approach
Mitt misses the obvious point that had he and his family been Latino, he would have had a very different experience in America. Or he might just have died in Nam.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
drip… drip… drip….
Ed Gillespie translated: “Hey, I just work here!”
Evolving Deep Southerner
God damn it, Cole. I was just waiting for one of your heavyhanded compatriots to bigfoot your going-strong post on the Romney video. And then you do it your fucking self. Unless it’s a pressing thing, let the posts run, man!
Ben Franklin
I have been on a Grand Tour of Righty sites and they are acting like gutted fish fried in beer-batter at Phat Phred’s Trout Farm. I wax over confident, but am enjoying this total Tonal Crow ass-kicking, fer shure.
Calouste
Well, that would explain the massive, uh, two Latino Senators. Because it is all so easy for them.
srv
You know, I found the Mitt Romney in that video very passionate and humanizing… in a Hannibal Lecter sort of way.
JPL
@BGinCHI: I actually was going there but after my throw momma from the train earlier thought it was to much.
BTW ..Mitt is a fucking other.
PaulW
I am SOOOOO disappointed in this crowd tonight.
I immediately thought of MATT SANTOS!
I win. I’m off to bed now, as Romney is convinced I’m too lazy to find a job after 4 years of rejection letters.
Maude
@Evolving Deep Southerner:
There were too many comments on the last thread. This topic isn’t going away.
Threads continue from post to post when something like this happens.
If John doesn’t post, I get lonely.
raven
Hey Ese!
patroclus
No comprendo.
Shawn in ShowMe
@BGinCHI:
Maybe he chose the wrong minority. Surely if Mitt was black, like Herman Cain, he would be winning in a landslide.
jwb
@Evolving Deep Southerner: No, the site is a bear to load on mobile site when comments get above 100. Actually, it is more likely to puke on regular browsers as well.
Lyrebird
@beltane: Unfortunately I clicked on the linked article (Hot Air… hey, were they named that before, or are they imitating BJ?? joking…) and read some of the comments.
The fawningly approving comments.
Proving John’s point, but ugh!!!!
garbo
@Joel:
Is that a sister-wives reference?
beltane
@srv: He really is a monster. This is all like some brilliantly crafted Marxist propaganda except that it’s real.
raven
Maybe Mitt could hang wit da Japanese Cholo’s?
Brachiator
Well, George Romney was born in Mecico. I expect Mittens to start campaigning in Spanish any day now.
Mittens will be speaking to a Latino group soon, if he has not done so already. I hope they have seen this video.
And again, this is about much more than conservative media feedback loops.
@cathyx:
There are women, gays, blacks, and Latinos in the GOP, some of them elected officials. A few, like Rubio, are seen as rising stars. And yet the GOP platform is pretty rancid with respect to any appeal for many Latinos, gays, women and blacks. It’s a fair question to ask why they stay in the party.
Of course, Malcolm X asked this question of black Democrats in the 60s. Go figure.
AA+ Bonds
Hmm yes almost certainly, within a certain margarine of error. Please read my book on the global warming hoax that is filled with science, I learned science recently and it is very interesting
PaulW
@patroclus:
Que?
srv
But I just don’t get Mitt’s Latino statement. Isn’t he literally an Anchor Baby by wingnut standards?
Keith
Jimmy Smits.
quannlace
William Howard Taftilla?
Okay, it’s getting late and the storms are rolling in.
raven
Hey Cisco
The outlaws had us pinned down at the fort
The outlaws had us pinned down at the fort
Cisco came in blastin’, drinkin’ port
Cisco came in blastin’, drinkin’ port
They rode the sunset, horse was made of steel
They rode the sunset, horse was made of steel
Chased a gringo last night through a field
Chased a gringo last night through a field
ETA, A fucking Romney ad popped when I hit this!
AA+ Bonds
@Brachiator:
In my experience Latinos who support Republicans are generally wealthy and self-loathing and are very intense about how they are actually official white people
Then again I have met like two pro-Republican Latinos and they were brothers, although they are probably a good, what, 50% of the entire population I’m discussing
Their wives are Democrats, they had a good laugh about that
beltane
Richard Nixon was born in California which was once Spanish territory so that must make him our first Latino president. What are all You People complaining about anyway.
Whatever happened to Mitt’s tax returns?
raven
Go Falcons!
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
He was talking to one today, in fact: the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
The Ancient Randonneur
Barack Obama might be the luckiest candidate ever.
1. Runs for Senate against — Alan Keyes
2. Runs for President against — John McCain who picks Caribou Barbie as his running mate!
3. Runs for reelection for President against — a worse candidate than John McCain, none other than Willard Mitt Romney!
I wonder if I can get the President to buy me a Powerball ticket.
I’m definitely gonna chill the f*ck out, because he’s got this.
patroclus
@PaulW: Hay de mi!
Just Some Fuckhead
Oh come on, America is crying out for a Messican president. Which means Hills is gonna have to get in line AGAIN.
wasabi gasp
Dubujoo, papi.
Maude
@Roger Moore:
Mitt said he’ll fix the economy and immigration.
They won’t have any money and he’ll kick them all out of the country. See? Fixed.
Obliterati
What would be the best move for Rmoney here? Limp noodle it, like the campaign’s first response? Damn the torpedoes and triple down on the Galt, like most (all) of the conservative bloggerati is suggesting?
This is actually a pretty fascinating little “what if” come to life…or, well…it would be if there wasn’t a chance this douchecanoe could actually become President.
srv
@Brachiator: Does anyone know Mexican citizenship laws? Could he actually be eligible to run there?
raven
@Obliterati: What ever he does I am sooooo worried,
jwb
@Obliterati: Yes, a chance, but every event like this lessens the chance a little bit more.
SiubhanDuinne
@KG:
George H. W. Bush pointed out all his little brown grandchildren to the media back in 1988.
Dr. Loveless
@cathyx:
If you’re Cuban, no.
If you’re any other kind (but especially Mexican), yes.
bemused
@Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker:
Heehee, I’m liking the coordination of videos.
Shalimar
@Brachiator:
It didn’t go well. He basically lectured them on the evils of amnesty.
MikeBoyScout
Wait. What?
There’s a test?
I was told there would be no questions and no video.
Where is Stuart Stevens?
Hold on. Have you seen the bit with Clint Eastwood and the chair?
raven
@Dr. Loveless: If you are a WHITE Cubano.
Villago Delenda Est
Dunno about the other networks, but ABC led their newscast with the “fuck the proles” tape.
That smell you’re picking up? It’s not the smoke of forest fires. It’s OvenMitt’s crusts burning.
rammalamadingdong
Viva Bush?
JPL
If the President addressed each audience as do you pay more than Mitt’s 14 percent, he’d win easily. He could even add maybe there were years Mitt paid more or Mitt paid none but we won’t know.
Baud
@Shalimar:
Tell me your kidding. That’s worse than talking to an empty chair.
raven
2 picks by Manning!
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@Villago Delenda Est: Anderson Cooper on CNN. I had to turn it off because Ari Fleischer, but I meant to flip back and check out Begala, who has a way with words and is the best (IMHO) of the Clintonites.
MikeJ
@The Ancient Randonneur:
Obama makes his luck. He got a guy who is revered in Washington as a war hero to panic and shut down his campaign, insult the people who were interviewing him, and pick a nitwit for a veep because he thought it made him look strong.
McCain wasn’t a bad candidate for the Republicans until he went up against the skinny kid. Everybody looks bad playing against the 1993 Chicago Bulls. Calling Obama lucky is like calling Michael Jordan lucky.
Soonergrunt
@Baud:
You think he won’t? I’m certain the mendacious prick has already considered it. Hell, he’d claim a slave ancestor if he could get away it.
“My great-great-great-great grandmother was raped by Massa, and her son was passing…”
Dr. Loveless
@The Ancient Randonneur:
Oh, don’t forget Mr. Seven-of-Nine, his original opponent in that race. Gives my Inner Trekkie a happy, that one does.
Schlemizel
@AA+ Bonds:
I have a good friend I met while living in Florida. He is Cuban, came here as refuges from Castro. He is light olive if I had to pick a color, lighter than some Italians I went to school with but not Scandinavian white. He was marginally Republican but as he grew & moved around he has become a really good liberal.
2 things I learned about old country Cubans: They tend toward the GOP for reasons they can’t explain beyond blaming JFK for the Bay of Pigs and the old ones at least are very racist.
The Cuban revolution ended up primarily the darker underclasses against the wealthy lighter classes.
While at college My friend began dating a Cuban girl & thought his mom would be please since that was important to her. When he told her he was dating a Cuban she only had one question, “Is she a white Cuban or a black one?”
Baud
@Soonergrunt:
He doesn’t have a slave ancestor, but isn’t the oppression caused by the income tax analogous to what the slaves went through?
MikeBoyScout
Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Goodbye!
ChrisNYC
@Obliterati: I don’t think there is a best move. Can’t get elected by disliking half the country. Not enough people in this country think that “the problem” is other citizens. Poll what people think of their neighbors and their co workers and their restaurant server as compared to what they think of bankers and pols.
Also, just the “every time I open my mouth, I fuck up” dynamic. The red blogs are just trying to hold up the floor at this point. Frantic. I do hope tho that they, tonight, move themselves into that great libertarian space where they don’t care what voters think because they are SMARTER and BETTER and that’s what MATTERS.
raven
@Schlemizel: Like I said.
JPL
@raven: ten pts. nice
MikeJ
@Schlemizel:
BEcause “hispanic” isn’t a race no matter how much racists in the US try top make it one. In every Latin American country I’ve ever been to they’ve referred to people as black, white, and native. It’s no surprise about who the underclass and overclass were in pre-revolution Cuba.
Brachiator
@AA+ Bonds:
Experiences vary.
@Shalimar:
RE: Mittens will be speaking to a Latino group soon, if he has not done so already.
Wow. And I thought this was supposed to be the first speech from the new and improved Romneybot 2000.
Any reports with quotations on the reaction to his speech? I assume that people were at least respectful despite his stupidity.
Tara the Antisocial Social Worker
Are we counting the Presidents who became Latino retroactively?
raven
All this “Latino” shit escapes me. When I was in the Army the ‘Ricans, Cuban’s and Mexican’s fucking hated each other.
lahru
Barak is emulating the “The Best Game Ever Played”.
On Golf channel now.
MikeBoyScout
In my highly uneducated and uninformed opinion Slick Willard’s latest #RomneyShambles is just to goad ABL. If Slick Willard polls at 0% with “Latinos” then it simply proves racism is no longer an issue.
jwb
Man, my Twitter feed and Facebook are still going to town on this video. People who don’t normally post political items are posting. It really hit a nerve.
Dr. Loveless
In New Campaign Strategy, Romney to Have Mouth Wired Shut Until November
Roger Moore
@MikeJ:
Some of it. He didn’t put the skeletons in Jack Ryan’s closet that forced him to drop out in favor of Alan Keyes in 2004. That was pure luck.
Schlemizel
@MikeJ:
Sorry he didn’t do any of those things.
The Ill GOP could have run a decent candidate – hell even one from Illinois might have done better.
McCain made one unforced error after another not because of BHO.
Willard is just the best thing the current brain damaged excuse for the GOP can come up with. Again, not Barry’s doing but he sure is the beneficiary.
Regardless of how you feel about him or his politics he is one lucky SOB. No politician has run 3 straight ‘not a cakewalk’ campaigns against such incompetence. Sure some ‘seat for life’ pol but never an open Senate seat followed by two Presidential runs.
But I guess the nation is a beneficiary of this luck too. Imagine how much worse things would be if the GOP could have run a decent campaign & actually won?
MikeBoyScout
Cole,
Are Italian, French and Romanian presidents to be considered of a “Latino” background?
The Other Chuck
@Joel:
Worst. Porno. Title. Ever.
raven
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@Roger Moore: and John McCain has always been an overrated, erratic mediocrity, the campaign (including Obama) and the financial meltdown just forced that into the light.
also, too, from twitters
Schlemizel
@MikeJ: true but its amazing that most Americans don’t know this or how much trouble there will be if these rich white guys go back & try to reestablish the old aristocracy.
Baud
Eyes Wide Shut is REAL!
gelfling545
@rammalamadingdong: Viva Arbusto?
dmsilev
The Onion predicts Romney’s next strategy
raven
Pick 3 for Manning!
Schlemizel
@MikeBoyScout:
Nah, it would prove that the blahs and the brans are the real racists!
SFAW
@Brachiator:
I can see it now: it’ll be either:
A) “Omnia Murika in tres partes divisa est”
or
B) “Mis amigos! Soy un mojado, como ustedes!”
I would pay EXCELLENT money to see a tape of (B)
Baud
@dmsilev:
Romney was born a poor black child.
raven
@Schlemizel: You could fill the Pacific ocean with “what most American’s don’t know”.
raven
@Baud: Navin Romney.
BGinCHI
@The Other Chuck: FTW!
Brachiator
@Schlemizel:
They love the Republicans because the GOP hangs on to tired anti communist dogma and hints that they will depose Castro and return the wealth and status that the Cuban exiles lost. These people are like tired old Europeans trying to restore some dusty, anachronistic monarchy.
There was a very good PBS documentary about the exiles not too long ago. One woman still burned in resentment over her loss of status and servants. It was like the Real Downton Abbey with extra helpings of loathing for the commies for destroying their dreams of permanent plutocracy.
More complicated than that, and darker Cubans, like everyone else, were ultimately betrayed by the empty promises of the Revolution.
MikeJ
@Schlemizel:
When it happens over and over and over again, it’s not luck. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action. Yes McCain and others sot themselves in the feet. They only did it because they panicked against someone they were supposed to trounce.
Romney is the best the GOP had. People voted for him specifically because they knew the obvious bozos didn’t have a chance. Obama defined who Romney was over the summer when nobody was supposed to be campaigning at all. And that drove Mitt nuts.
Teams that force turnovers aren’t lucky. They apply pressure and crack the other team.
Soonergrunt
@Baud:
No, no, that’s the holocaust.
SFAW
@Baud:
Well, he’s definitely a jerk.
YoohooCthulhu
This dude is making the argument “All else being equal, if Romney were Latino, he’d have a better chance”. The faulty assumption here is, of course, all else would not be equal if Romney were Latino. He’d not have the same experience with elite educational institutions, his father definitely wouldn’t have been a governor, and the Republican base wouldn’t have the same level of comfort with him.
Brachiator
@raven:
Sometimes they still do. And some indigenous people hate all of them.
It’s complicated.
The Other Chuck
@MikeJ:
Ooh, not normally a fan of sports analogies, but this. Totally fucking this. Er, as an adjective, not a verb.
Hill Dweller
@Roger Moore: Unless prior knowledge of said skeletons made Obama’s decision to run against Ryan for the Senate seat very easy.
ding dong
Jaime Chavez and Guillermo Corona.
Steeplejack
Who can forget our first Latino president?
? Martin
@The Other Chuck: POTY!
The Other Chuck
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
Bago
Juan de la JuanPercento?
Comrade Dread
It’s hard out there for a white male with $250,000,000 in the bank.
MikeBoyScout
UPDATE: I think you can hear the sound of the
Romney/RyanGekko/Galt campaign if you go to the Lou and flush!Brachiator
@srv:
I seriously doubt it. And about the only way that Romney could become president of Mexico is if declared himself to be a descendant of Emperor Maximillian and tried to stage a coup. And he would still be laughed out of town.
Cacti
James K. Polk took about half of Mexico’s territory. Does that count?
MikeBoyScout
@116 Steeplejack: LOL
Comrade Dread
@The Other Chuck: He’d be a better candidate than Romney.
Xecky Gilchrist
@srv: But I just don’t get Mitt’s Latino statement. Isn’t he literally an Anchor Baby by wingnut standards?
My guess is it’s a clumsy riff on the stupid Republican meme that Obama was elected because everyone was afraid to be politically incorrect and not vote for the black guy.
The Other Chuck
@Cacti: Is it too late to give it back?
Cacti
@YoohooCthulhu:
There isn’t a chance in hell that Mitt’s pappy would have been auto industry CEO in the 1940s if he was anything other than lilly-white.
Rafer Janders
To be fair, he is the son of a Mexican immigrant….
raven
@Rafer Janders: Aw bullshit.
asiangrrlMN
@MikeJ: So very much this. I get tired of people exclaiming how lucky PBO is – he’s not made mistakes when others have. He’s kept his cool and run savvy campaigns when others have lost their shit and fucked up. When his opponents come at him, he has a measured response that makes his opponents look weak/foolish. Give the man some fucking credit.
As for the Latino thing, very much reminiscent of she-who-must-not-be-named and her comment about how lucky (there’s that word again) Obama was in being a black man running for president.
Uncle Cholmondeley
@Warren Terra:
Wait, didn’t AMC also make the Matador? Es una victoria de Romney!
mainmati
Jaime Buchananista, 15th President and the only pretty certainly Gay President and only Hispanic President originally from a small community in PA.
I thought everyone knew that.
lacp
Wasn’t Grampaw McCain born in the Canal Zone? Of course, he didn’t actually become President, so that doesn’t count.
amorphous
@DanF: Abraham Llincolln
HI
Does Martin Sheen count as Latino?
ul
in Romney’s defense, he didn’t say he’d BE elected, just that he’d have a better chance.
gotta agree with that.
Mnemosyne
@asiangrrlMN:
I dunno, with this latest Romneyshambles meltdown, I’m starting to suspect something more than mere luck and preparation here. Maybe Pele got pissed off at Republicans making fun of volcano monitoring?
Mnemosyne
Or maybe Romney ignored an old woman while on vacation in Hawaii: