I don’t care what you think about Bill Maher, but what he did to that lying sack of shit Dinesh D’Souza tonight on Real Time was fucking amazing. I’ve never seen someone so thoroughly pantsed in American media. It was actually like watching foreign media, where the media takes an adversarial position with the people they interview.
Maher ended the interview abruptly with “Good luck with your movie,” but I swear all I heard was go fuck yourself.
*** Update **8
Robin G.
Links tomorrow, I hope.
Drunken hausfrau
FSM bless Bill, who doesn’t,t believe Ina FSM… Yeah! Maybe, just maybe, we have some momentum on the side of facts?
RoonieRoo
Gosh I hope it shows up somewhere so I can see it.
Hill Dweller
Maher was also good with Ron Christie early in the panel. But now he is saying the Eastwood bit was good.
raven
Good, send him and that howdy doody motherfucker Jindal back to the set of scumdawg millionaire.
Catsy
So… maybe some details?
EriktheRed
@Hill Dweller:
Meh. Don’t care if he praises that horseshit as long he also calls out the worse – and arguably more dangerous – horseshit.
And he’s been doing that lately.
Violet
Good for him. When will clips be available?
Ron
That opening segment was awesome. Maher crushed him. And yeah, the Eastwood thing. it wasn’t JUST the empty chair bit. it was the incoherent rambling the rest of the time.
raven
@Violet: I don think they geeve out no cleeps on no HBO’s.
ShadeTail
@Violet: If the entire episode isn’t on Youtube within the hour, I will be very surprised.
raven
@ShadeTail: oh
danah gaz (fka gaz)
links or it didn’t happen. =)
Ron
@ShadeTail: if it is it might be taken down. I imagine HBO looks out for that.
Anonymous
Mediaite has it up: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-takes-on-dinesh-dsouza-over-anti-obama-documentary-2016/
Badmoodman
I wish I had a dollar for every time GOP flak Ron Christie says, “the fact of the matter.”
And D’Souza looked like Maher stole his lunch money and rubbed his nose in dog crap.
Drunken hausfrau
What a great start to a long weekend…
beltane
“How far up your ass did you have to go to find that?”
This should be the standard response to all wingnut “arguments”.
Both Sides Do It
@Hill Dweller: He said the Eastwood bit was funny.
It was funny! Very Bob Newhart. Just not that appropriate for a national party’s convention.
The D’Souza thing was, indeed, a piece of magic. D’Souza has thirty fuckin’ years experience in evading people calling him out on his bullshit. There’s a C-SPAN hour between him and Jonathan Alter where Alter is just a sputtering mess trying to keep up with D’Souza’s evasions and claims and feints etc.
Maher just goes for the jugular and doesn’t let him go. By the end D’Souza’s forced to do his equivalent of squirting ink and trying to swim away in the confusion: claiming that preposition choice in Obama’s writings and public statements is a strong enough link to infer a massive anti-colonialist ideology that drives everything he does. Maher just laughs in his face and leaves D’Souza with a sour look on his face. It’s great.
The funniest thing about that first Christie exchange is that Christie has a tic for saying “the truth of the matter is” before every single sentence when he knows he’s bullshitting. Maher was just chuckling at him toward the end.
There’s a global warming conversation with Christie where he just looks like a fucking child, as well.
fubar
Dinesh is a huge (did I mention really huge) Indian douche bag. I think he is channeling huge rage that he was not born a miserable, white, old, dixie.
Schlemizel
Bill has his blind spots and personal failings but there is nobody on TV today doing what he does about calling out the crazys. He lets them fly their freak flag and then hammers them often with their own words.
I’ll take Maher with his clay feet over any other interview program currently in the media.
beltane
@fubar: No matter how hard he tries, they’ll never, ever make him an honorary redneck.
TheYankeeApologist
This reminded me of Maher back in the Politically Incorrect days. I have personally felt that he’s been softballing every conservative that isn’t DEFCON Bachmann crazy.
I saw this live. It was a curbstomping. I loved every delicious second of it. This may be the year that the Left shows some fucking teeth.
Liquid
Ron Christie is the living embodiment of Eddie Murphys ‘white man’ impression from “The Distinguished Gentleman.”
General Stuck
Obama Anti Colonial? WTF!!. My theory is that Barack Obama is so fucking normal as Americans go, in about every way, and that fact has driven the nutters around the bend.
The wingnut bubble is starved for oxygen to characterize Obama in a negative, but rational way. Obama gives them little to nothing in the way of material to use against him, so they just make shit up that is so outrageous it numbs the brain.
An example from this NRO drone is the canard that Obama is anti capitalist, after he pretty saved the capitalist system we have. And certainly saved one of the country’s crown jewels in the auto industry. It is so easy to smash that meme, but they keep pumping out the bullshit like an assembly line making nothing but fools of themselves.
Soonergrunt
@raven: If you have HBO, you should have access to HBO Go, where you can watch just about everything that HBO has ever produced. The current episode of Real Time on there is last week’s.
LanceThruster
The ex-Mormon Mr. Kirn was really good too.
Great line was something like, “Mormonism is like communism but with more sex.”
Also, when Maher said Romney wants a LDS prez to legitimize Mormonism, Kern dryly offered, “I think he’s more selfish than that.”
jwb
Where’s the latest persona of RC to tell us again how this movie is going to spell disaster for Obama? VICTORY!
danah gaz (fka gaz)
Thanks for the link.
Dinesh was an ass, which was predictable.
Bill Maher missed some opportunities to hand him his testicles.
For instance, when Dinesh spewed that the Bush debt was $500b and the Obama debt exceeded $1t, Bill Maher responded with “Because he was paying for Bush’s fuckups!”. This is true, BUT, I think he would have gotten more mileage out of being a bit more articulate. For example, he could have said “When Obama got into office he decided that he didn’t want the budget to be dictated by fairy dust and unicorn pubes so he decided to actually PUT THE COST OF THE TWO UNFUNDED WARS BACK ON THE BOOKS!”. Something like that.
I was also kind of miffed that he spent the last couple of minutes rehashing his 10 year old 9/11 nontroversy.
That said, I thought the spanking was decent – maybe even good, but I wouldn’t call it WOW oh WOW…
then again, I may be in the minority on this one.
EriktheRed
@Anonymous: Just read the comments after that. Bunch of totally delusional wingnuts (or maybe they’re just trash-talking) saying that D’Souza is one who cleaned Maher’s clock.
We see what we wanna see…
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@beltane: “How far up your ass did you have to go to find that?”
Yes. That line was delicious. =)
ShadeTail
@Ron: I imagine they do, but just search youtube for “real time” or “bill maher” or some combination thereof. There’s so much there, they’ll never get it all.
Kane
WOW, Jason Alexander is wearing a toupee. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Soonergrunt
@EriktheRed: Distort D’News’ Facebook page is a riot right now. Those people really do live in another world.
Chris
@General Stuck:
I think the more offensive thing is that they (not just Dinesh) consider anti-colonialism to be beyond the pale. And by extension, colonialism to be a good thing.
dance around in your bones
Jeebus H. Christ. If this ain’t a classic case of projection on D’Souza’s part…..glad to see Maher put him DOWN.
arguingwithsignposts
Obama has vigilante rage. LooooooooooL
lamh35
Do yourselves a favor and watch the repeat of The Daily Show. Tonight’s show was new and Jon talked about Clint Eastwood. It was pretty funny. I can just imagine how Colbert will do.
TheYankeeApologist
@Soonergrunt:
It’s true. I did the very silly “let’s have a Facebook political debate with my wingnut conservative friends” dance today.
I wasn’t pushing anything partisan. I just gently raised the question of Romney’s electability, with all his demographic concerns, and so on. The following are actual quotes I received in reply:
“LOL, Romney in a landslide. Reagan vs. Carter numbers”.
“I will bet money that Romney wins 49 states.”
The second guy didn’t take my offer of $500 on the table right then and there, for some reason.
ChrisNYC
Crackpot, D’Souza. Newt peddled his crap, the article that was the basis for the shit movie. Imagine. He started at Dartmouth. Worked at the Heritage Foundation and in the White House and ends up home and watching The View and getting lemon faced when Maher says, “I’m famous and you’re not.” Yes, Dinesh, let’s talk about sublimated rage, shall we?
Big part of the bile at Obama is just pure screaming, biting, kicking jealousy. And what they do with it is say, “You know what gets a lot of attention? Writing about the ever-fascinating Obama, that talented bastard.”
ETA — In his Wiki he describes himself as a public intellectual. hahahahahaha. So sad.
arguingwithsignposts
You know, last I checked, the US didn’t really do colonialism to begin with. That was a Yurpean thing.
kerFuFFler
I don’t imagine Dinesh will be coming back…heh heh heh.
jfxgillis
John:
Indeed. FUCKING awesome.
No spoilers, but the the date “September 17, 2001” came up and … I’ve never heard that tone in Maher’s voice before.
Kane
D’Souza’s Obama is as real as Eastwood’s Obama. Both are invisible and figments of their imaginations.
Jamey
@TheYankeeApologist: Shoulda bet $10,000
kerFuFFler
I just wish that the conservative on the panel had gotten the same sort of reaming. Brian something… Christ, he was annoying. He used the phrase “the fact of the matter” over and over and over (or was it “the simple fact of the matter”) and always as an introduction to the most rancid bullshit.
MomSense
I don’t get this anti-Colonial smear. America only exists because our founders were anti-Colonial.
trollhattan
@lamh35:
Just viewed last night’s TDS with the Leonard Nimoy video on the Romney makeover–it was a hoot and pretty vicious. In a good way.
Made me think of “Reformed Maverick” from four years ago, which not only threw McCain under the bus, it flattened the bus and smeared the parking lot with him.
pragmatism
@TheYankeeApologist: I saw this doozy today after some light mocking of a winger crowing about the Eastwood line “we own this country”. There are lots of interesting tidbits in there but I never knew how anti colon Obama was. I’m not sure if it means the punctuation or the organ.
MikeBoyScout
Fvck Dinesh D’Souza.
suzanne
Oh God, that was beautiful. I might need a cigarette.
karen marie
@pragmatism: You can’t even argue with that. All you can do is slowly back away …
Rita R.
I don’t even think these wingnut “intellectuals” believe their own crap. It’s just a contest to be more and more outrageous to keep raking in the bucks from the ignorant, racist rubes. It does take gall, though, for someone who didn’t even come to this country until he was 17 years old to question the American-ness of Obama.
I think we need to investigate (read, make up) the beliefs of D’Souza’s Indian parents. Since anti-colonialism is apparently bad, I’ll assume they welcomed the rule of the British. That means D’Souza has a mentality of subservience to foreign rulers that he got from his parents. Why did his parents abandon their homeland and come to America? I think we should question D’Souza’s loyalty to the U.S. since his parents apparently didn’t have any loyalty to their home nation. So D’Souza thnks the U.S. should be subservient to foreign powers and is disloyal to America. I wonder if the suckers paying money to see his fake documentary know that about him…
Ajay
I saw that but I didnt get this impression of Wow Oh Wow. However I did get that Dinesh is weak and evil. I am of Indian descent and may be I am biased but I saw nothing but evil/hatred in him. All I could see was someone who has no soul and would lie for money.
I also clicked on the other link to Cenk’s show. Dinesh comes across cheap and predictable as he is boasting about $10 people are paying for his film. The fact that people like his movies somehow makes him right.
After watching, I felt like people like him should never have been born. The hate in him might just kill him. They have to resort to this sad life because they have no real skills. He is brown version of James O Keefe; completely brain dead.
Its strange to see a brown guy supporting an overtly racist party of not enough angry white guys.
Frankensteinbeck
@arguingwithsignposts:
Actually, we did some! Mostly in the Pacific in the late 1800s.
@MomSense:
‘Anti-colonial’ = ‘he’s loyal to Africa, not America’.
Anne Laurie
@arguingwithsignposts:
History major Karl Rove’s favorite President William McKinley did his best to start an American Empire in the Philipppines, and in Cuba, during the first Gilded Age.
D’Souza, IIRC, got his start at Dartmouth telling the Rich White Guys how much he deeply regretted that Teddy dropped the ball on Expansionist Exceptionalism and “wasted his presidency” fighting the robber barons & trying to get progressive legislation passed, when a more ballsy kinda wingnut warrior at the start of the last century would’ve made it possible for little Dinesh to be born an American citizen even in Goa.
dance around in your bones
@pragmatism:
What, Obama doesn’t believe in colons? And Amurka was the greasiest cause for peace and prosperity the world has ever known?
We are a giant pork chop?
Or, maybe bacon.
Villago Delenda Est
@General Stuck:
Pretty much the same way FDR saved the 1% from their own stupidity in the 1930’s, and they’ve hated him with a passion ever since for sparing them from the gallows.
Anne Laurie
I just watched that clip. Anyone else think D’Souza looks and sounds like David Brook’s long-lost Indian
sontwin?Heliopause
Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Dinesh D’Souza is sexually attracted to eight year old boys. Let’s say that he has never acted on this attraction. Let’s say that he marries an adult woman and has eleven children and goes to his grave without having ever touched an eight year old boy.
Sorry to break it to you, Dinesh: if it walks like a centrist, writes like a centrist, governs like a centrist, and golfs like a centrist, it’s a goddamned centrist. You spent all that time and money probing the heart of hearts of the most determined centrist any of us have ever seen. You could have raised the levees in Plaquemines Parish six feet with all the time and money you wasted.
Linda Featheringill
The term “anti-colonial” as a criticism of Obama seems very strange to me. Our Founding Fathers were anti-colonial.
I wonder if anti-colonial actually refers to something like the Mau-Mau uprising. People in the Mau-Mau organization were, of course, painted as unreasonable, violent, and irrational beasts [by the British].
So are they saying that Obama is dangerous and might do bodily harm to us all?
arguingwithsignposts
@Frankensteinbeck: I added the words “to begin with” to the sentence for that very purpose. I had no doubt we’d dabbled in it, but it wasn’t our schtick, so to speak (not that we didn’t have our own forms of oppressing the “other”).
Central Planning
D’Souza is a D’ick.
It’s nice to see him called out
Eric
Violet
I’m watching the replay. Who is this Ron Christie character? He’s obsequious and subservient while being intellectual-y. It’s creepy.
pragmatism
@dance around in your bones: I’d eat my finger if it were wrapped in bacon.
@karen marie: I could feel the anger through the interwebs.
AHH onna Droid
@arguingwithsignposts: haiti. Puerto Rico. Phillipines. Japan. 50/50 fuckup ratio, with dixiecrat wilson to thank for generations of misery in hispaniola and only ourselves to blame for our continued and unremitting cruelty towards the survivors.
Anticolonialism is Dinesh telling us about his fetid fantasy life.
Joel
You guys remember when Colbert destroyed D’Souza, right? I couldnt believe D’Souza survived THAT onslaught, never mind a second round of ass whooping.
dance around in your bones
@pragmatism:
I can never hear the word bacon w/o hearing Travolta saying “bacon tastes guuuud, pork chops taste guuuud”.
I might eat my big toe if it was wrapped in bacon; never had one of those bacon donut/crullers tho.
Calouste
@Rita R.: I remember reading somewhere that D’Souza’s family held quite important positions under the Brits and were of a high caste, but lost most of it after independence and the reform of the caste system.
He’s pretty much a brown man who is happy to be ruled by whites as long as it means he can rule over other brown people.
AHH onna Droid
@Rita R.: D’Souza made his bones as a dark-skinned person defending the Bell Curve. Thats all you need to know about him. I’m sure he justified it to himself because hes ‘really’ Aryan.
He came to the eastern Us ata time when Indian immigration was more rare and the few that came were from the most privileged caste. Ive had highcaste Indians tell me what a come down the US is for them in terms of basic life activities, and thats without any serious racial element.
It must have been tough to be the lowly foreigner when your whole life you have been a snobby jerk with drivers and cooks and lower caste women to legally exploit. But then you find this crowd, and, hell, it could have been Campus Crusade for Christ with the love-bombing but instead it was the first brush with the wingnut welfare gravy treason, in this case campus conservatives, who just love you to death for being their token and patterns to listen seriously to what you have to say and youre loved and important again.
Radical anti-colonialist thought was big in the humanities in the early 80’s, so conservatards embraced the opposite–whatever the fvck that means. Its not as if they have ideas, an unhinged id.
Rita R.
@Calouste:
So the BS I just made up is apparently partly right? Look at that, I’m already smarter than D’Souza. Where do I get my book and movie deal?
Ms. D. Ranged in AZ (IrishGirl)
@Both Sides Do It:
I noted that too, but did you catch near the end when Maher accused D’Souza of not standing up for him? D’Souza turned around and said the exact words of what Maher said didn’t matter so much as how people took it. So D’Souza’s anti-Obama theory entirely rests on word specificity that Obama used but then he dismisses the importance of word specificity in what Maher said. What a complete douche.
SatanicPanic
If there is any justice D’Souza went home, curled up in a ball and cried like a baby.
FlipYrWhig
@Linda Featheringill: “Anti-colonial” has as much to do with colonialism as “soçialist” has to do with socialism. When applied to Obama, both mean he wants to take white people’s stuff.
Spatula
Are we sure that D’Souza isn’t a little bit mentally challenged? He just seems…off.
Ms. D. Ranged in AZ (IrishGirl)
I didn’t really know who this D’Sloozy guy was until earlier today….I was looking for movies to see this weekend and saw his hitjob. I made the mistake of looking at Yahoo comments about the film and cons were going nuts saying that they were pissed because the film wasn’t playing anywhere near them and whining about how it was Obama Censorship. I just had to respond even though I know I will get bombed with ugly crap from the legion of conservative douchenozzles who have no life and sit around 24/7 looking to insult us lazy Libs. Anyway, I told them that the film was independently made, meaning made on a much cheaper budget. And those kinds of budgets can’t afford to distribute their movie to every market in the country. After all, that’s the Free Market right? They love it when it works in their favor but not so much otherwise.
Suffern ACE
@Linda Featheringill: Yes. It’s a “he hates white people” thing.
@Ajay: He has been that way forever. Since Dartmouth when he edited the conservative Dartmouth Review. He is exactly the kind of person Maher has no time for. Bile spewer who will run away and publish a book or two on religion (or how liberals get religion wrong) so that he can pretend to have some sort of holy convictions when all he has is hatred of whatever is considered liberal. He thinks that will exempt him from any criticism. His holiness.
And yes. He was O’Keefe before there was O’Keefe. Taping meetings of student groups he didn’t like in the name of investigation. Whining and hiding behind freedom of the press when people fought back. Yet no matter. We can’t get rid of him. He’s the guy who wrote that AA males had too much self-esteem fostered from beating up other kids and that as property, slaves were treated well. And yet 20 years after attempting to end racism with that, he’s still around. He’s my age so he’ll probably be around for 30 more years. Sad thought isn’t it.
YellowJournalism
@Ms. D. Ranged in AZ (IrishGirl): My favorite part was when he tried to claim that he did defend Maher and Maher basically told him, “The fuck you did. Prove it.” Then he said something about having to look it up. That was about the time Maher did the GFY brush-off.
It’s like Maher got heat for telling the school bully he has a tiny dick and D’Souza went and hid under the bleachers even though he’d said the bully’s dick was tiny and smelled like ass.
Hal
John Stewart nailed it tonight as well. Pretty much summed up the bullshit fest that was this weeks RNC.
He nailed it at the end:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-basks-in-the-glory-of-clint-eastwoods-awesome-speech-while-tearing-apart-romneys/
Anne Laurie
@Violet:
He was a Republican coatholder here in Massachusetts back in the early 1990s, and seriously derailed some of then-governor William Weld’s legislative agenda by getting picked up for driving drunk & making up a series of increasingly improbable stories about how it never happened and anyway those highway cops were probably Dem plants. Finally, IIRC, he pulled the inevitable I-have-a-disease-you-cruel-louts card and went into rehab, leaving Big Bill to try and un-break the shattered crystal of his reputation. I haven’t followed his career since then, but if you accept that Bill Weld cudda been a contenda if he’d done the stuff he wanted to do as governor, then Ron gets a little limp piece of the ‘credit’ for the later success of both Dubya and Romney.
AHH onna Droid
@AHH onna Droid: jeebus, train, not treason, FU android!
Although treason kinda works, not so much in his case being an import anyhow, but movement conservatives in general.
Hal
@AHH onna Droid:
Thank you. He would not have half the career he’s had if he were a white man. D’Souza is just the go to guy when you need someone with dark skin to prop up racist bullshit. It’s always perplexed me as to why anyone would consider him an expert on the black american experience, but I guess when you are a Republican, all you need is a good tan, and boom, you’re an expert.
Ms. D. Ranged in AZ (IrishGirl)
@YellowJournalism:
This D’Souza could be both a big pussy and trying to take advantage of all the tea party/racists out there that hate the President to make some dough. Or maybe it’s just projection….his film is supposedly about Pres. Obama’s non-existent rage. Seems to me that D’Souza’s got a pretty good hate of and rage against the President. I mean to go make an independent film and release it during the run up to the election. That’s some seriously deep motivation–greed, hatred or both.
Ms. D. Ranged in AZ (IrishGirl)
@Suffern ACE: It’s not so much sad as it is a bitter pill to swallow. I think it’s a shame that our culture allows a bottom feeder like him to survive on being just that. Price of Free Speech I guess….
TG Chicago
So the guy who always complains about new categories being created posts this in a new category rather than using the old category “Because of wow”? :-)
Violet
@Anne Laurie: Thanks for that. I seriously had no idea who he was. He struck me as congenitally obsequious.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
I would bear Bill Maher’s grumpy little babies.
Suffern ACE
@Ms. D. Ranged in AZ (IrishGirl): His role from the beginning of his post college career has been to be the Bill Bennett for the gen-exers. He’s actually quite a bit worse than Bill. But in the “liberals are ruining our younguns” he’s played the role of Bill Bennett’s shadow replacement since the mid 1990s. If Bill were to kick the bucket, Dinesh would be there to fill in as the moral education expert. It;s how conservatives reproduce these days.
But gosh, I don’t think he’s a grifter. Yes, he’s been on the wingnut welfare circuit forever. But nothing in his writing or personna suggests that he doesn’t actually believe what he is saying. He’s just an asshole. His method is basically to write red meat then rely on interviewers to not read his statements out loud when interviewing him. Perhaps not actually reading the book. He can then read the “reasonable” summary of his work and claim that his critics are upset over nothing.
Just Some Fuckhead
Meh, it wasn’t really all that.
trollhattan
@Hal:
Holy moly, the correspondents are killing it too. Jason Jones and John Oliver doing the Glenngarry Glenn Ross bit–brilliant.
taylormattd
The good part was the end, where he took the prick to task regarding the comments that got him into trouble after 9/11.
It kind of pisses me off that he let pass the lie that Obama had larger percentage deficits than Bush, however.
karen marie
@pragmatism: It’s the abject ignorance that appalls me almost more than the hatred.
JR
Yeah, watching Dinesh “forget” that every Republican in Congress voted against Clinton’s budget in 1993 was pretty special as well.
And then Ron Christie (whose tell is the phrase “the fact of the matter is…”; he used the phrase about a dozen times and lied like crazy immediately after it every single time) got smacked around by Soledad, Jason and Bill in a rather delicious fashion. Watching Soledad slowly explain the concept of accuracy to him was hilarious.
Tim in SF
I’ve seen the late, great Christopher Hitchens fail to keep Dinesh D’Souza in check. For Bill Maher to take him down so effectively was a beautiful thing, something I thought I would never see.
D’Souza was sandbagged. Ambushed. Clobbered. It was a bit unfair, I suppose, but it needed to be done.
Tim in SF
D’Souza went onto overtime later and got even more shit, but not quite as much:
http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill-maher/index.html#/real-time-with-bill-maher/episodes/0/257-episode/video/257-august-31-overtime.html/
Cap'n Magic
@Schlemizel: +1
Cap'n Magic
@Tim in SF: In Spades. And when it comes to politics, which D’Souza plays in, nothing is off-limits. Well Played, Bill Maher.
Cap'n Magic
@Hal: Why D’Souza and not Sowell?
Shalimar
@Chris: I would love to see someone like Sullivan ask D’Souza, “Why are you such a big fan of colonialism? You do realize that is the period when my people owned your people, right?”
hep kitty
WTF?? D’Souza said the 911 terrorists were not cowards but warriors on 9/17? And that’s how Maher got fired? This, I did not know.
How did this fly under the radar all these years while this repugnant little fuck gets teevee bookings and I think this is the first time someone did not let his verbal diarrhea go unchecked.
Don’t typically like Maher, no, but he does come up with some real gems like this one. D’Souza got completely owned.
I would like to see that D’Souza 911 quote plastered all over the place, everywhere that piece of shit film is shown.
WereBear
@hep kitty: As Bill Maher said, opening his HBO show:
debbie
Exactly! The first time I heard this was when Newt accused Obama of being a “Kenyan anti-colonist.” While Newt might protest and say he was referring to a non-citizen who was an anti-colonial, he’s too much of an intellectual giant to have so poorly phrased his meaning. He meant exactly what he said — that the historical white subjugation of a black continent was a good thing for us all.
Suffern Ace
@hep kitty: Yep. But unlike Maher, D’sousa wasn’t complaining about foreign policy. More like “they fight the feminists and homosexuals uust lik i do.” As long as you were using your praise of terrorists to knock the liberals, your statements can be forgotten more quickly.
Emma
If you Google “Goa India D’Souza” you come across a number of entries. D’Souza is a common name in that area, which was “settled” by the Portuguese, not the British. D’Souza is a name belonging to Roman Catholic Brahmins, upper caste Indians that converted.
Goa was conquered by the Indian state by force of arms. It still is a wealthy, literate, very European-style state. In fact the D’Souza Trust provides funds every year for Goa students to study in UK universities.
Methinks Mr. D’Souza was as imprinted by his background as he claims Mr. Obama was by his.
KXB
If Obama is anti-colonial, how is that a bad thing? Last I checked in my grade-school history books, the American colonies rejected the status of remaining a colony, and wanted to be become an independent republic. During World War II, American aid to Britain was contingent upon them disassembling the British Empire after the war was over. Now, there are plenty of places where the U.S. acted as a colonial power itself (Philippines), but because of American PR, it was never called colonialism, since American politicians always found it to be a dirty word.
KXB
@Emma:
You might have a point. My family is Indian as well, and I was a bit taken aback when he said that India was a British colony, but he left out the fact that his family, living in Goa, was not subject to British rule. There were plenty of families like his that probably benefited under the old system, and did not wish to become a part of India.
Using his logic, my never have met or spoken with him does not mean its not true.
General Stuck
@KXB:
I think it as a back assward way of saying Obama doesn’t think America is exceptional and he probly hates us all for being a superpower. Don’t ask me to give a point by point of why the nutters think of the shit they think. It is the best they can come up with to say Obama sucks.
My extended theory is that these folks are the distant spawn of original American Tory circles back in the day. And that birthright sometimes escapes to their conscious mind into a kind of exquisite wingnuttery that does not make any sense, given our history as a revolutionary country from colonialism.
jshooper
WTF…D’Souza looks like an indian Mr. Bean…what a smarmy dishonest little fuck he is…i don’t like bill maher…he’s too much of a firebagger for my tastes…and he is spreads racist stereotypes…but i’m glad somebody kicked that little prick D’Souza’s ass
jfxgillis
@Shalimar:
D’Souza is a Goan Catholic, i.e., his family was among the native elites who converted and acquiesed to/collaborated with Portugese rule.
TR
What a well-deserved ass-pounding
Suffern Ace
@KXB: We tend to think that colonialism means massive immigration from the host country, because that is our experience of it. That isn’t how many places experienced that kind of conquest and subjugation.
Mutaman
@raven:
“Good, send him and that howdy doody motherfucker Jindal back to the set of scumdawg millionaire”
?????
John M. Burt
Why is anti-colonialism a bad thing in the land of Jefferson and Washington?
john fremont
@jfxgillis:The first book I knew of from him was titled The Catholic Classics This makes sense now knowing more about his background.
Suffern ACE
@John M. Burt: That ship sailed when we annexed Hawaii, took Sam Juan and mamilla, joined Europeans in china…and so on. Anti colonialism is the type of new world order where we might not be on top with a veto power at the UN or IMF and can’t go traipsing about Iraq and Afghanistan for ten years.
WWStBreitbartD
Epic 10 year old John Cole/Maddow level butthurt from POS Maher.
If I were Dinesh D’Souza I would be smiling for days.
delphi_ote
@arguingwithsignposts: The US didn’t do colonialism?! What the fuck, people? Panama, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam? We might not call them colonies, but implying that this nation has been completely above colonialism is just ridiculous.
Ellyn
@LanceThruster: Maher said Romney wants to be prez so he can marry some “sister wives”.
I have sympathized with Maher ever since he was fired from “Politically Incorrect” for agreeing with D’Souza that the 911 terrorists weren’t cowards. They gave their lives for their cause. I have never recovered from SCOTUS’ decision to crown George Bush and when Maher was fired, I realized that something was seriously wrong with this country. The time to defend our civil liberties is when we may have to pay a high price for doing it. The good thing is that I got off my ass and became politically active.
BruinKid
@Joel: Yep, here’s the video of that epic beatdown.
Metavirus @ Library Grape
also, too:
Cenk Uygur Destroys Dinesh D’Souza http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cenk-uygur-destroys-anti-obama-author-dinesh-dsouza/
Colbert Destroys Dinesh D’Souza http://www.nofactzone.net/2007/01/20/the-blogosphere-erupts-danesh-dsouza-gets-slaughtered-on-the-colbert-report/